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  • [00:00:44] * Set by KotH!~attila@erica.kinali.ch on Wed Jul 15 13:55:07 UTC 2015
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  • [00:12:25] <yates> zmatt: are you using TI CCS (V6) to debug your bbb code?
  • [00:13:21] <yates> if so, how do you get it to load elf files? it only seems to want to load .out file (ti coff format). ick.
  • [00:15:14] <yates> also, where is the am335x interrupt vector table located on startup? i.e., what does the reset shove into the PC?
  • [00:15:37] <yates> 0x00020000?
  • [00:16:15] <yates> and how many cats can dance on the head of a starkist tuna can?
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  • [00:16:42] <yates> peace, brother.
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  • [00:17:24] <yates> zmatt: dude, are you listening?
  • [00:18:11] <yates> Ragnorok: are you the guy in Rand's Atlas Shrugged?
  • [00:18:23] <yates> many parts of a pine tree are edible.
  • [00:19:11] <yates> <crickets...>
  • [00:20:49] <yates> .
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  • [00:21:46] <vcc> boy i sure have a heavy load...
  • [00:22:05] <vcc> .
  • [00:22:48] <vcc> A funny thing happened on the way to the irc channel...
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  • [00:24:14] <yates> .
  • [00:24:16] <yates> .
  • [00:24:17] <yates> .
  • [00:29:15] <yates> .
  • [00:29:30] <yates> everyone went to the pi?
  • [00:29:40] <yates> gosh seems dead here lately.
  • [00:30:04] <yates> av500: can you hear me?
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  • [00:38:28] <agmlego> yates: It is the first day of work for a lot of people. Maybe they have other things to do.
  • [00:43:55] <yates> agmlego: sure. however, the usefulness of the channel and the probability of using it as a resource is inversely proportional to the response time.
  • [00:44:16] <yates> one could make the same statement after a hundred years...
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  • [00:52:15] <agmlego> yates: Well, I personally also find it impolite when a random in a channel begins directly addressing me over and over. ::shrugs::
  • [00:53:19] <yates> random?
  • [00:53:35] <yates> are you referring to zmatt?
  • [00:53:51] <yates> rather, to my asking zmatt questions?
  • [00:54:25] <yates> that's far from random, although you might not know about it.
  • [00:54:36] <yates> we've spoken for HOURS on this channel...
  • [00:55:27] <yates> there are other things in life besides irc, however... :)
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  • [01:22:14] <GenTooMan> What? there is where!?
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  • [03:04:47] <Rif> Is there a range of supply voltage or is it just 5V?
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  • [03:20:06] <zauslande> 3.3Vdc is more common today for digital... also 2.4 and 1.8 are used a lot
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  • [03:20:35] <zauslande> Usually, 5Vdc is dead except among hobbyists and vintage restorations.
  • [03:20:53] <zauslande> 3.3V is the new 5V
  • [03:21:13] <zauslande> Dispite Arduino owner opinions
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  • [03:59:26] <yates> Despite
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  • [04:25:33] <yates> zmatt: ?
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  • [04:43:03] <yates> when i try to disassemble at 402f0400, i get this nasty-sounding message from CCS V6.1.2: http://ur1.ca/ods5l -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/307192/45196893
  • [04:43:27] <yates> any idea why?
  • [04:43:57] <yates> i'm also using an XDS100V2 debugger, if it's relevent.
  • [04:44:18] <yates> this is sram - it should always be available, right?
  • [04:44:37] <yates> internal sram, i.e.
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  • [12:12:19] <zmatt> argh, yates _really_ needs to leave his irc connected so I can actually answer his questions
  • [12:22:18] <tbr> or answer them and we'll point him at the logs later :)
  • [12:23:44] <zmatt> ohh, good one, although it'll feel odd to address someone who isn't here XD
  • [12:24:16] <zmatt> yates: 0x208D0 is internal ROM, not internal SRAM, if you tried to write to it then a bus error will indeed ensue
  • [12:25:15] <zmatt> yates: CCS makes _every_ error sound dire, pick a few random possible underlying causes (generally none of which the actual one) and things to try to fix the problem (none of which will help)
  • [12:26:04] <zmatt> yates: so basically an error from CCS should be interpreted as "Something wrong!! I don't understand!! Halp!!!" regardless of the error message
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  • [12:29:25] <zmatt> yates: the initial vector table (and hence the reset vector) is at adddress 0, which is aliased to 0x40000000 which is where the 176 KB of internal ROM resides
  • [12:30:19] <zmatt> the first 128 KB is accessible by secure world only, the 48 KB of public ROM starts at 0x20000 (== 0x40020000)
  • [12:31:26] <zmatt> this is also the entrypoint of public ROM, and if you try to attach to the Cortex-A8 during reset then this is where it will halt, since you do not have permission to halt it while executing in secure world
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  • [12:34:16] <zmatt> for more details on the memory map, check my spreadsheet https://goo.gl/UHF2Fy ... the HASS tab shows the local routes within the cortex-A8 subsystem
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  • [12:39:25] <zmatt> when trying to disassemble your program at 0x402f0400, make sure it's actually been loaded by public ROM by setting a hardware breakpoint there
  • [12:39:43] <zmatt> and load symbols (Debug -> Load -> Load symbols, point to your ELF file)
  • [12:40:44] <zmatt> also, if CCS has not been given a memory map, it may try to access addresses below 0x402f0400 and get a bus error on that
  • [12:43:48] <stt_michael> znc ftw .. or there are other irc bouncers out there. He's not a web irc user, thankfully. Although there is another option for synchronisation.
  • [12:44:19] <zmatt> screen + irssi or some other text-mode client? :P
  • [12:45:04] <zmatt> yates: the memory map is normally supplied by the GEL file btw
  • [12:48:47] <zmatt> yates: it can load ELF files just fine btw, it just expects the .out suffix but you can change that in the popup to list *.* and it'll take an elf file with any suffix
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  • [12:50:01] <zmatt> yates: I recommend letting public ROM load your executable however, since otherwise you may need to do more initialization and disable the watchdog, things which public ROM normally does for you
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  • [12:52:29] <zmatt> yates: a _hardware_ breakpoint can be used to catch the jump from pubrom to your code, and you can load symbols either before or after
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  • [12:53:41] <zmatt> without symbols CCS does not know whether to disassemble in ARM or Thumb mode (it is incapable of using the Thumb-bit of CPSR as a hint for disassembling code at PC...)
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  • [13:00:28] <zmatt> if you do intend to try to upload a program via JTAG, beware that CCS by default sets PC to 'main' rather than the entrypoint of the ELF file, you need to change that in the debug settings... but in any case it is incapable of using the entrypoint stated in the ELF header, you need to specify a symbol (e.g. _start) or an address
  • [13:03:33] <zmatt> tbr: that should do for now :)
  • [13:03:39] <tbr> :)
  • [13:04:26] <zmatt> I might just dig up some preconfigured CCS project since that's easier than explaining all the things that need to be configured right to be make CCS behave in a moderately sane way
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  • [15:08:13] <needhelp596> I am experiencing a power issue with all 3 of my BeagleBone Blacks. When I connect the usb power cable and when I press the power button, the power LED flashes on but will not remain on. Does anybody have any experience with this? Thanks
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  • [15:14:34] <stt_michael> you shuoldn't need to press the power button at all .. soon as the board is connected via usb (the mini-B port, NOT the A) it should boot
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  • [15:14:41] <stt_michael> needhelp596, ^^
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  • [15:18:00] <needhelp596> I am very new to this board, so please bear with me. I attempted to follow the getting started guide but was unable to use chrome to browse the device nor was I able to get the power to remain on.
  • [15:19:05] <needhelp596> I was using a usb to mini-usb cable to power the board from my laptop
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  • [15:35:11] <H-H-H> i suggest trying a different usb port although i doubt a laptop usb port would be that limited in current although i have hear of it
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  • [15:35:13] <sandbox> I have had the same problem getting the board to boot off of usb, DC connector boots up fine so i didnt worry about it. only seemed to happen after flashing a new image on the emmc.
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  • [15:45:55] <stt_michael> DC barrel is recommended, as is RJ45 ethernet.
  • [15:46:12] <stt_michael> the USB 'magic' is fine when it works .. but its quite temperamental
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  • [18:09:32] <beast> hello guys i have just plugged in my beaglebine black, power led is shining but there is no image in my monitors???
  • [18:09:51] <Ashas_> are the other lights doing anything?
  • [18:10:16] <beast> only power led
  • [18:10:32] <Ashas_> thats not good. Does it have enough power
  • [18:10:43] <beast> just plugged in 5V DC
  • [18:10:50] <Ashas_> check the amps
  • [18:11:00] <Ashas_> though really that should be okay...
  • [18:11:22] <beast> sorry what is amps meaning?
  • [18:11:43] <Ashas_> amps are the flow of power (current)
  • [18:12:06] <Ashas_> Volts = amps * resistance
  • [18:12:17] <Ashas_> the charger should say
  • [18:12:43] <Ashas_> sometimes the bbb wont start and you just have to try a reboot
  • [18:12:59] <beast> so should i push the reboot button
  • [18:13:00] <beast> ?
  • [18:13:10] <Ashas_> Try, or just unplug replug
  • [18:13:37] <beast> both not working
  • [18:13:52] <Ashas_> try it without anything else plugged in
  • [18:13:55] <beast> the problem is i just worked with bbb 2 hours before
  • [18:14:07] <Ashas_> did you flash it?
  • [18:14:28] <beast> wanted do to but not yet
  • [18:14:39] <Ashas_> does the sd have an image on it?
  • [18:15:01] <beast> on my sd card there is ubuntu image but i didnt insert it yet
  • [18:16:08] <beast> could it be that i just have written a command and thatwhy i am not getting any siganl on my monitor#
  • [18:16:23] <Ashas_> well, lets try doing that. You may have to hold the boot button
  • [18:16:50] <beast> ok for couple of seconds? and inserd sd or noT?
  • [18:17:19] <beast> *insert
  • [18:19:35] <beast> sry dude
  • [18:19:46] <beast> but afterwards i have to do what?
  • [18:20:21] <Ashas_> I think you may have to hold the boot button to boot from the sd. Not too sure though
  • [18:20:30] <Ashas_> I have to shower though. Gl mate
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  • [18:32:41] <beast> mates could you help me?
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  • [18:33:46] <adasd> anyone know why beaglebone is giving no image?
  • [18:34:10] <adasd> plugged 5VDC and hdmi cable
  • [18:34:10] <adasd> ?
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  • [19:12:13] <vagrantc> rcn-ee: managed to get bbx15 enabled in debian's experimental kernel
  • [19:12:23] <rcn-ee> vagrantc, nice!
  • [19:12:56] <vagrantc> rcn-ee: though eSATA and USB weren't working, last i tried ... not sure if i'm missing some config options, or if there are some patches needing mainline support
  • [19:13:24] <vagrantc> also, haven't tested since 4.4-rc6, maybe -rc8 has magically fixed things
  • [19:13:25] <rcn-ee> eSata is powered via usb..
  • [19:13:31] <rcn-ee> usb needs extcon...
  • [19:13:58] <vagrantc> yeah, i suspected it was a chain of options that might not have been enabled
  • [19:14:45] <rcn-ee> it's DWC3...
  • [19:15:23] * vagrantc feared the "only works as a built-in"
  • [19:15:30] <vagrantc> but i didn't get around to testing that
  • [19:15:39] <rcn-ee> it should work as a module...
  • [19:16:07] <vagrantc> yeah, just with the BBB that was a problem for a while, and i just encountered it on the orangepiplus2
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  • [19:16:23] <vagrantc> so it's my first hunch :)
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  • [19:18:32] <rcn-ee> you guys enabled: CONFIG_PCI_DRA7XX=y (the module option is going to be removed. ;) )
  • [19:19:06] <vagrantc> i think all the PCI features are =y
  • [19:20:02] <rcn-ee> have you tried modprobign: CONFIG_USB_DWC3_OMAP=m
  • [19:20:02] <vagrantc> looks like the config ended up with: CONFIG_USB_DWC3=m
  • [19:20:03] <vagrantc> CONFIG_USB_DWC3_HOST=y
  • [19:20:03] <vagrantc> CONFIG_USB_DWC3_OMAP=m
  • [19:20:03] <vagrantc> CONFIG_USB_DWC3_EXYNOS=m
  • [19:20:21] <rcn-ee> you can also enable: CONFIG_USB_DWC3_DUAL_ROLE
  • [19:20:55] <rcn-ee> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/arm/boot/dts/am57xx-beagle-x15.dts?id=refs/tags/v4.4-rc8#n711
  • [19:22:07] <rcn-ee> there it is: # CONFIG_EXTCON_USB_GPIO is not set
  • [19:22:09] <rcn-ee> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/arm/boot/dts/am57xx-beagle-x15.dts?id=refs/tags/v4.4-rc8#n103
  • [19:22:16] <rcn-ee> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/extcon/Kconfig#L113
  • [19:22:30] <rcn-ee> so.. + CONFIG_USB_DWC3_DUAL_ROLE + CONFIG_EXTCON_USB_GPIO ;)
  • [19:23:23] <vagrantc> looks like i'll be compiling kernels again :)
  • [19:26:58] <rcn-ee> just two more modules. ;)
  • [19:27:35] <rcn-ee> i don't see anything else that really sticks out. ;)
  • [19:27:54] <rcn-ee> oops set CONFIG_SENSORS_GPIO_FAN
  • [19:28:18] <rcn-ee> you have tmp102 enabled, but we need gpio_fan to trigger the "gpio" for fan-on..
  • [19:28:24] <rcn-ee> so 3 modues. ;)
  • [19:28:59] <vagrantc> that's for the on-board powered fan?
  • [19:29:37] <vagrantc> i've been running it in an unheated space, but it gets warm to the touch even idling
  • [19:29:51] <rcn-ee> yeah connector "j1" allows a fan hookup..
  • [19:30:09] <vagrantc> but i think before i start adding it to the compile farm, i'll probably want a fan
  • [19:30:21] <rcn-ee> it's not populated by default.. but it's nice to have.. (it'll thermal down-clock on it's own)..
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  • [19:32:18] <rcn-ee> vagrantc, i'm using : https://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?keywords=%20COPAL%20F251R-05LB (or you can find it on old video cards) we should have a "kit" with the connector at soem point..
  • [19:33:24] <vagrantc> kit would be nice :)
  • [19:33:57] <vagrantc> although i have a few old video cards i could probably scavenge :)
  • [19:46:19] <vagrantc> given how long it took the bbx15 to come it, it sure is a shame it didn't come with 4GB of ram
  • [19:55:03] <vagrantc> rcn-ee: ok, building a kernel with those options enabled, and they actually took this time
  • [19:55:54] <vagrantc> i think i tried enabling some or all of those at some point past, but there were probably missing dependencies, or boolean-only and i tried to enable as modules
  • [19:56:22] <vagrantc> back in the day, it would silently change =m to =y if it was a boolean... not it just seems to disable them :/
  • [19:56:27] <vagrantc> now
  • [19:56:44] <rcn-ee> yeah, eveything is so interdependent now. ;)
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  • [19:59:02] <rcn-ee> vagrantc, last month, i had a lot of fun when you guys moved usb to m.. my delta is based off your config, so i had to re-figure out how to force usb to built-in .;)
  • [20:02:06] <vagrantc> i know it's maybe a pipe-dream, but hope to someday see a delta of 0 lines.
  • [20:03:11] <rcn-ee> it's getting closer.. but then i'm also dealing with "capemanager" bugs/hacks... (some will work as modules, some need to be built-in..)
  • [20:04:03] <rcn-ee> but dra7 enable with pull a chunk of that out. ;)
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  • [21:37:10] <zmatt> I wonder why they still define iosets, I'd expect that with iodelay you could align any bunch of signals
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  • [22:44:59] <vagrantc> rcn-ee: well, that got USB working, but eSATA is still having issues
  • [22:46:03] <vagrantc> ahci 4a140000.sata: couldn't get PHY in node sata: -517
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  • [22:46:54] <rcn-ee> i'm thinking ... CONFIG_TI_PIPE3
  • [22:47:00] <rcn-ee> (obvious name)
  • [22:47:22] <vagrantc> lsmod | grep -i pipe3
  • [22:47:23] <vagrantc> phy_ti_pipe3 5641 2
  • [22:47:23] <vagrantc> phy_omap_control 4217 2 phy_ti_pipe3,phy_omap_usb2
  • [22:47:44] <rcn-ee> okay that's good then..
  • [22:47:47] <vagrantc> i'm going to try without the USB disk conncected
  • [22:48:02] <vagrantc> to make sure the errors i'm seeing are only relevent for that disk
  • [22:49:25] <vagrantc> the ssd claims to require 1amp ... but i've never observed it using that much
  • [22:50:19] <vagrantc> [ 58.899241] ata1: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
  • [22:50:19] <vagrantc> [ 58.899251] ata1: hard resetting link
  • [22:50:19] <vagrantc> [ 63.902112] ata1: softreset failed (1st FIS failed)
  • [22:50:26] <vagrantc> that sounds like it could be power constraints
  • [22:51:33] <rcn-ee> might be... do you have another ssd? (which model are you trying right now)
  • [22:52:01] <vagrantc> yeah, i'm trying the one recognized via usb, which claims to only be .5 amp
  • [22:52:13] <vagrantc> rcn-ee: el-cheapo "faspeed"
  • [22:52:30] <vagrantc> rcn-ee: and el-cheapo "kingfast" is the .5amp
  • [22:52:50] <vagrantc> the lower amperage one seems to behave the same
  • [22:53:06] * vagrantc wonders about external power
  • [22:54:12] <vagrantc> unfortunately, don't have the right adapters to try external power at the moment
  • [22:54:32] <vagrantc> well, working USB is huge progress
  • [22:56:42] <vagrantc> i guess i could try a third ssd
  • [22:56:55] <vagrantc> although this one claims to require 1.5amp
  • [22:57:10] * vagrantc wonders what these SSDs are doing with all those amps
  • [22:57:41] <vagrantc> when i've monitored ower consumption, none of them have come close to more than .3amp
  • [22:59:23] <vagrantc> i guess it could be a bad cable
  • [22:59:32] <vagrantc> well, no, works fine with rcn-ee's kernel
  • [23:00:27] <vagrantc> same difference
  • [23:00:49] <rcn-ee> i also have a lot more built-in... it could be a hidden dependicy...
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  • [23:01:17] <rcn-ee> and maybe sata isn't fixed on mainline yet.. i think we had some external patches in 4.1.x-ti..
  • [23:01:25] <rcn-ee> (although mainline sata works on omap5_uevm)
  • [23:05:36] <vagrantc> well, step by step, will get it enabled in stretch eventually
  • [23:08:48] <rcn-ee> and by the time the board get's released.. ;) it'll work out of the box. ;)
  • [23:09:46] <ds2> rcn-ee: by then, you could be living on a boat ;)
  • [23:10:22] <rcn-ee> as long as it's bigger than the box ds2. ;)
  • [23:11:28] <ds2> but you could washed down to NO
  • [23:11:41] <ds2> aren't you guys getting part of that massive deludge?
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  • [23:14:28] <rcn-ee> ds2, thanks to el nino, we've have a very warm and no snow winter so far... (could almost say a drought.)
  • [23:14:52] * vagrantc has been covered in snow and ice for the last couple days
  • [23:14:53] <rcn-ee> the stuff we did get, we got about 3 weeks ago..
  • [23:15:09] <vagrantc> which is rare for the pacific northwest at this altitude
  • [23:15:53] <rcn-ee> all that stuff is heading south of us... ;)
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  • [23:22:36] <GenTooMan> it was a warm balmy 15 F out today. or -10 for C people. Of course no wind (just wind burn) so it felt like it was 2 ...
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