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  • [08:41:00] <GrumpeiYokoi> So does the BBB use the PRUs to drive HDMI or something? Or is it just some kind of bus conflict to use them at the same time?
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  • [08:44:03] <av500> no
  • [08:44:10] <av500> PRU has nothing to do with HDMI
  • [08:44:18] <av500> HDMI is on the LCD pins
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  • [09:13:22] <zmatt> which is also the only mux option for nearly all I/Os of pru core 1
  • [09:14:06] <zmatt> hdmi audio also conflicts with some pru core 0 gpio pins
  • [09:14:47] <zmatt> so there's not really any intrinsic kind of conflict between HDMI and PRU, but HDMI steals more than half of the available pru gpios
  • [09:14:51] <zmatt> due to mux conflicts
  • [09:15:08] <zmatt> (HDMI or LCDC in general)
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  • [09:19:31] <GrumpeiYokoi> So... you could in theory use them at the same time if you were careful?
  • [09:21:16] <GrumpeiYokoi> I'm mainly asking because everything I read about PRUs indicates you should disable HDMI
  • [09:27:48] <zmatt> it's a simple matter of making sure you don't have a pin conflict
  • [09:28:19] <zmatt> there's not really a "being careful" factor since the kernel will simply refuse conflicting pinmux requests
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  • [09:28:52] <GrumpeiYokoi> Ah, right
  • [09:29:23] <GrumpeiYokoi> I keep forgetting the kernel is at least somewhat control w/r/t IO
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  • [10:18:43] <zmatt> if you let it, yes
  • [10:18:46] <zmatt> O:)
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  • [10:19:05] <zmatt> but doing so is indeed recommended for things like pinmux
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  • [10:19:15] <GrumpeiYokoi> Oh, right, you're a rawarrior
  • [10:19:21] <zmatt> lol
  • [10:20:45] <zmatt> btw, not sure if I shared it already, but if you ever have any doubts about the state of your pinmux, I made a script that displays it -> http://gerbil.xs4all.nl/show-pins-v2.pl.gz
  • [10:28:43] <GrumpeiYokoi> I was always scared of Perl b/c of all the 'or die' statements
  • [10:28:49] <GrumpeiYokoi> i don't want my scripts to die :(
  • [10:28:55] <zmatt> lol
  • [10:28:59] <zmatt> I do
  • [10:29:14] <zmatt> I deliberately make sure the script dies if anything doesn't parse exactly as expected
  • [10:29:42] <zmatt> better that than risking misparsing and misinterpreting the data and as a result presenting bullshit to the user
  • [10:30:15] <GrumpeiYokoi> Well, I'd really have to strain to read this but it could come in handy, thanks.
  • [10:30:38] <zmatt> make sure you make your terminal window wide enough for its output
  • [10:30:46] <GrumpeiYokoi> (I hardly know perl at all)
  • [10:30:47] <zmatt> otherwise it'll be a pain obviously
  • [10:30:52] <zmatt> well you don't need to read the script
  • [10:31:07] <zmatt> you run it and stare at the pretty output :P
  • [10:31:17] <GrumpeiYokoi> Certainly, but it is nice to be able to understand the things you're using
  • [10:32:13] <GrumpeiYokoi> The last time I looked at a Perl script it was to fix a build problem with LLVM on Windows
  • [10:32:26] <KotH> GrumpeiYokoi: i'm pretty sure there is a module so that you can write "or seppuku" in perl ;)
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  • [10:32:43] <GrumpeiYokoi> Which usually leads to death :)
  • [10:32:54] <GrumpeiYokoi> That's funny, either way
  • [10:33:19] <zmatt> GrumpeiYokoi: trying to read an ugly little perl script I hacked together in very little time will not help you with any pinmux problems
  • [10:34:01] <GrumpeiYokoi> Their build script involved, shell, perl, python, makefiles, a custom program that generates C++ code from another language, and also supported CMake
  • [10:34:10] <Shadyman> hurk
  • [10:34:14] <GrumpeiYokoi> It was a lot of moving parts
  • [10:34:21] <GrumpeiYokoi> I don't think it's as all over the place these days
  • [10:34:46] <zmatt> sounds like https://codepoints.net/U+1F4A9
  • [10:36:09] <GrumpeiYokoi> "dog dirt"
  • [10:36:16] <GrumpeiYokoi> Quite a euphemism
  • [10:36:53] <zmatt> just a synonym, the official name is, as you can see, pile of poo
  • [10:36:54] <GrumpeiYokoi> I like how they have to explain what feces are
  • [10:37:05] <zmatt> I think that's just scraped from wikipedia?
  • [10:37:12] <zmatt> indeed it is
  • [10:37:13] <GrumpeiYokoi> yeah
  • [10:37:31] <GrumpeiYokoi> But that they felt the need to cite an explanation for what feces are kind of tickles me
  • [10:38:25] <GrumpeiYokoi> I think of Unicode as a very dry, technical subject so I guess this softens them a bit in my eyes
  • [10:38:30] <GrumpeiYokoi> softens their stool
  • [10:38:52] <tbr> time to use https://codepoints.net/U+2620 for function names and variables
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  • [15:26:46] <zmatt> the easy solution or the interesting solution?
  • [15:26:47] <rcn-ee> do it!
  • [15:29:03] <zmatt> on linux I can now conveniently trap bus errors with try-catch (although it's of course slow as fuck due to two visits to kernel space)
  • [15:29:15] <zmatt> now I need something similar on baremetal
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  • [15:30:24] <zmatt> am I going to try to get unwinding to work there (in general, and in particular through an exception frame, and without pulling in some giant pile of unwinding code)
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  • [15:30:48] <zmatt> or use some quick hack to just make it work for the single use case I have right now
  • [15:30:53] <zmatt> hmm
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  • [19:15:01] <punto_> hi
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  • [19:27:08] <beagle_TI> hello
  • [19:27:32] <beagle_TI> I wish to use 30 GPIO pins on BBB
  • [19:27:42] <beagle_TI> but board has only 19
  • [19:27:56] <beagle_TI> is there any way i can increase the no of pins
  • [19:28:09] <beagle_TI> or change the other pins in GPIO
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  • [20:37:28] <_av500_> BBB has 68 or so GPIOs
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  • [20:52:33] <Mian> Hello, first time to be here...
  • [20:53:40] <zmatt> _av500_: weird indeed, I wonder where he got the 19 from
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  • [21:28:12] <_av500_> Mian: keep it here
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  • [21:36:52] <James_Johnson> dammit someone asks a question that I know the answer to and they leave
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  • [22:14:00] <chillfan> hey
  • [22:14:27] <chillfan> has anyone tried building debian for the beagle bone black? I'm having some issue with it
  • [22:15:30] <chillfan> on running the vmdebootstrap script provided by debian I get Command failed: /usr/share/debootstrap/examples/beagleboneblack-customise.sh /tmp/tmpvIKTUp
  • [22:15:52] <chillfan> and python throwing a traceback seems to be the problem
  • [22:17:21] <chillfan> i'm guessing I'm missing some python module or another but the debian guide doesn't exactly state the pre-requisites for this
  • [22:17:41] <James_Johnson> shouldn’t reading the traceback tell you what the problem is?
  • [22:18:22] <chillfan> if i understood what it goes on about maybe
  • [22:18:56] <James_Johnson> can you at least put the traceback up on pastebin or something?
  • [22:19:16] <chillfan> sure, i'll have a go
  • [22:19:35] <chillfan> it's a tad annoying as i'm doing the build itself inside a vm
  • [22:19:42] <chillfan> but i'll have a go at putting it somewhere
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  • [22:27:29] <chillfan> give me a min, setting up the vm with an xserver/browser
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  • [22:37:03] <chillfan2> http://pastebin.com/cmnNHbAw
  • [22:37:18] <chillfan> that's basically the issue ^
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  • [22:43:08] <James_Johnson> chillfan you may have to look at the vmdeboostrap source to see what command is failing
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  • [22:51:35] <chillfan> hm
  • [22:51:46] <chillfan> i'll have a go at putting in 'debug' echo commands
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  • [22:55:46] <chillfan> will maybe see which part of the script is the problem that way
  • [22:57:40] <chillfan> is there another way I might create the image file? I mean.. say I do a debootstrap install with everything that's needed, can I then convert that?
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  • [23:40:10] <cyberh0me> whats wrong with my beaglebone black who sends continuosly a C char on uart?
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  • [23:53:46] <cyberh0me_> kopfkwsaogkqpür
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  • [23:55:42] <cyberh0me_> kpkop
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