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  • [08:50:14] <elkman> ar e there any ideas what could be wrong if debug interface shows alwas wrong chars and charater mismaches.. no real boot log ? I configured 115200 8,N,1
  • [08:51:36] <av500> something wrong with your serial I guess
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  • [09:46:47] <Knaldgas> Using BBB with CBB-Serial. I'm trying to get 1PPS to come in on CTS on UART4. linuxpps seems to have registered OMAP-SERIAL4 as source, but ppswatch /dev/pps0 times out. I can see the signal on P8.35 with my scope. What am I missing here?
  • [09:49:08] <av500> do you have a UART4?
  • [09:49:11] <av500> in linux
  • [09:49:37] <Knaldgas> Yes, I have /dev/ttyO4
  • [09:50:14] <Knaldgas> And /var/log/messages says: pps pps0: source "/dev/ttyO4" added
  • [09:50:37] <Knaldgas> cat /proc/tty/driver/OMAP-SERIAL -> uart:OMAP UART4 mmio:0x481A8000 irq:45 tx:549 rx:1320594 fe:889 pe:88 brk:19 RTS|CTS|DTR|DSR
  • [09:51:20] <Knaldgas> I do get NMEA messages in on UART4
  • [09:51:39] <woglinde> hm
  • [09:51:51] <woglinde> no idea than
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  • [09:52:48] <tbr> and that muxing includes CTS?
  • [09:53:33] <woglinde> tbr the problem is somewhere else
  • [09:53:41] <woglinde> if he gets nmea out of it
  • [09:53:47] <woglinde> its all its needed
  • [09:53:47] <Knaldgas> tbr: I'm using the default firmware for CBB-Serial, and I don't yet know too much about overlays
  • [09:54:29] <tbr> woglinde: AFAIU no. PPS is not part of regular UART data.
  • [09:54:40] <Knaldgas> Yes, gpsd receives NMEA messages just fine, linuxpps claims to have found a PPS-source on the same uart, but no signals are received/emitted from 1PPS
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  • [09:55:24] <Knaldgas> Hmm, UART4 says it has RTS|CTS|DTR|DSR (DSR also), which signal does linuxpps hook on to?
  • [09:55:26] * tbr still puts bets on CTS not being muxed
  • [09:55:58] <Knaldgas> tbr: how can I check that?
  • [09:56:37] <tbr> Knaldgas: how did you enable the UART?
  • [09:56:43] <tbr> it will depend on that
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  • [09:57:21] <Knaldgas> tbr, just loaded the overlay
  • [09:57:45] <av500> which one?
  • [09:57:46] <Knaldgas> cat /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots -> 0: 54:P---L cape-CBB-Serial,r01,Logic Supply,cape-CBB-Serial
  • [09:58:45] <tbr> ah, so that's some special sauce cape that came with its own overlay
  • [09:58:55] <av500> https://github.com/lgxlogic/CBB-Serial/tree/master/overlay
  • [09:59:21] <av500> https://github.com/lgxlogic/CBB-Serial/blob/master/overlay/BB-UART4-RTSCTS-00A0.dts
  • [09:59:30] <av500> CBB serial is not enuf
  • [09:59:35] <av500> it only muxes rxtx
  • [09:59:47] <Knaldgas> av500, right - tbr is probably right then, will try
  • [10:00:21] <av500> ...Because the RTS and CTS pins are shared with the HDMI driver, to enable flow control for either UART4 or UART2 you must first disable HDMI...
  • [10:00:42] <av500> its all in the manual
  • [10:00:47] <Knaldgas> HDMI has alread been disabled
  • [10:00:49] <av500> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sgurQ-7gLyn7g-Kg983NRM0aDkYEqHqy9dmrieX_RUM/edit
  • [10:01:31] <aswin> Hello all
  • [10:01:53] <aswin> Have any one used pyusb for hacking usb devices?
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  • [10:33:59] <aswin> hello all
  • [10:34:26] <aswin> Have anyone used pyusb for hacking any USB devices?
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  • [10:53:42] <KotH> how do you hack an usb device without using an ax?
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  • [12:16:40] <Akhil> hello
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  • [12:22:51] <Akhil> org.bulldog.core.gpio.PinBlockedException: Pin P9_28 is currently blocked by HDMI on Pin P9_28 - (you need to disable this feature at boot time) at org.bulldog.core.gpio.Pin.activateFeature(Pin.java:376) at org.bulldog.core.gpio.Pin.as(Pin.java:164) at Test.enableGpio(Test.java:203) at Test.main(Test.java:142) PinBlockedException - org.bulldog.core.gpio.PinBlockedException: Pin P9_28 is currently blocked by HDMI on Pin P9_28 - (y
  • [12:23:15] <Akhil> getting this exception can you please sort this out
  • [12:23:17] <Akhil> ?
  • [12:23:21] <Akhil> org.bulldog.core.gpio.PinBlockedException: Pin P9_28 is currently blocked by HDMI on Pin P9_28 - (you need to disable this feature at boot time) at org.bulldog.core.gpio.Pin.activateFeature(Pin.java:376) at org.bulldog.core.gpio.Pin.as(Pin.java:164) at Test.enableGpio(Test.java:203) at Test.main(Test.java:142) PinBlockedException - org.bulldog.core.gpio.PinBlockedException: Pin P9_28 is currently blocked by HDMI on Pin P9_28 - (y
  • [12:24:26] <Akhil> anyone please help me
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  • [12:28:50] <Akhil> hello anyone please help me out this ...
  • [12:29:30] <Akhil> while am trying to drive a gpio pin i got this exception "--------------------- org.bulldog.core.gpio.PinBlockedException: Pin P9_28 is currently blocked by HDMI on Pin P9_28 - (you need to disable this feature at boot time) at org.bulldog.core.gpio.Pin.activateFeature(Pin.java:376) at org.bulldog.core.gpio.Pin.as(Pin.java:164) at Test.enableGpio(Test.java:203) at Test.main(Test.java:142) PinBlockedException - or
  • [12:35:20] <LetoThe2nd> Akhil: we have all read it 3 times now. probably nobody knows. please do not repost. thank you.
  • [12:36:00] <LetoThe2nd> Akhil: respectively, have you actually read the error message?
  • [12:36:04] <av500> Akhil: can you read?
  • [12:36:08] <av500> (you need to disable this feature at boot time)
  • [12:36:11] <av500> ^^^
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  • [13:33:54] <pizza> hey what's a good place for some basic example programs to run on the beaglebone black?
  • [13:34:12] <av500> like?
  • [13:34:22] <pizza> im just beginning to use it
  • [13:34:31] <pizza> so i just want to see the kind of stuff i can do with it
  • [13:36:19] <av500> google should have some info
  • [13:36:28] <pizza> i mean what do you recommend for a beginner? my background is coding in c/c++ and i have some javascript experience
  • [13:36:34] <av500> http://beagleboard.org/project
  • [13:36:46] <av500> well, basically its a linux computer
  • [13:36:51] <av500> so you can run a lot of linux SW
  • [13:36:58] <av500> then it has all this hardware IOs
  • [13:37:04] <av500> no idea what you are into
  • [13:38:10] <pizza> primarily i want to attach sensors to check temperature and humidity and that sort of stuff
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  • [13:38:35] <av500> pizza: well, there is a lot on google about that
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  • [13:39:43] <pizza> thanks btw. and yes, i've been looking the past couple days and i've found some c++ programs and stuff on the beagleboard site to turn the led lights on and off lol
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  • [13:43:18] <LetoThe2nd> whats not to like about turning led lights on and off?
  • [13:43:50] <woglinde> lol
  • [13:43:56] <woglinde> I can turn on the leds via shell
  • [13:44:46] <jkridner> ds2: http://paste.debian.net/196960/ <-- lsm330_acc is crapping out
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  • [14:03:40] <pizza> ive gotten up to making one led blink via shell
  • [14:03:44] <pizza> yay
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  • [14:05:06] <ksweens> anyone ever had their computer crash with a watchdog violation whenever they plug in their beaglebone?
  • [14:07:41] <woglinde> ksweens plugin where and what?
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  • [14:08:42] <ogra_> PCI ?
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  • [14:50:28] <johanhenselmans> Trying to upgrade BBB to latest kernel, via /opt/scripts/tools/update_kernel.sh, but I am rebooting in 3.8.13-bone50 all the time. Also /boot/uboot/initrd.img and zImage do not seem to be updated. What am I missing?
  • [14:54:14] <agmlego|skynet> The name of the distribution your are running.
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  • [14:58:53] <johanhenselmans> DEbian
  • [15:01:45] <agmlego|skynet> Why not use Debian's pakcage manager then, apt-get?
  • [15:01:48] <johanhenselmans> I think I started with the 2014-05-01 image, upgraded all the time via apt-get update/upgrade
  • [15:02:39] <johanhenselmans> I did via apt-get update/upgrade, but that did give the same results: a downloaded linux in /boot but still booting the old version
  • [15:02:57] <johanhenselmans> That is why I tried the other approach.
  • [15:03:00] <agmlego|skynet> Did you try dist-upgrade?
  • [15:03:10] <agmlego|skynet> As in, apt-get dist-upgrade?
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  • [15:04:58] <johanhenselmans> Both. I also did apt-get install linux-image-4.1.0-rc6-bone5, to get the latest (for CANbus purposes), which gave the same result: a boot folder with that specific kernel, but no update in /boot/uboot
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  • [15:06:30] <agmlego|skynet> Interesting.
  • [15:07:29] <agmlego|skynet> Sounds like you need to rebuild your initrd and zImage.
  • [15:07:58] <agmlego|skynet> This is straightforward on x86/amd64, but I am unsure of the tools you need to use to do so on armhf.
  • [15:08:07] <agmlego|skynet> Best of luck!
  • [15:08:17] <johanhenselmans> These are rebuilt, they are just not placed in /boot/uboot…
  • [15:09:56] <agmlego|skynet> So move them?
  • [15:10:04] <agmlego|skynet> Or symlink them.
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  • [15:34:21] <Abhishek_> I'm writing my cape overlay based on circuitco BB-LCD7, when I try to load it, I get this error: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zHy8d7ad/
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  • [16:05:09] <aswin> Have any one used pyUSB to hack USB devices?
  • [16:05:22] <aswin> I am getting an error "The device does not support the specified langid"
  • [16:05:37] <aswin> I have no Idea what that mean :(
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  • [16:16:13] <agmlego|skynet> aswin: my guess is you are trying to use a langid yhat the device does not support.
  • [16:16:23] <James_Johnson> wakka wakka wakka
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  • [16:29:51] <aswin> agmlego|skynet: Actually I don't have any idea about what is langids and why its necessary to use while accepting the packets from a USB device !
  • [16:33:09] <agmlego|skynet> might be a thing one could find online.
  • [16:33:16] <agmlego|skynet> Maybe in the usb spec.
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  • [16:40:10] <simha> Hi
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  • [16:40:23] <simha> to All !!!
  • [16:40:53] <simha> am trying bbb freertos interrupt
  • [16:41:54] <simha> am not able to generate
  • [16:42:24] <simha> any one can suggest how to generate interrupt ..
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  • [17:00:55] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zHy8d7ad/
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  • [17:12:24] <jkridner> I've got the Gaming Cape reporting back most of the sensors via /dev/input/{event,js}* now.
  • [17:12:54] <jkridner> I've also got the buttons sending BTN_LEFT and BTN_RIGHT events...
  • [17:13:22] <jkridner> but, I'm not sure how to get the joystick (AIN0/AIN2) to move the mouse on X11 or the buttons to be left and right clicks.
  • [17:13:31] <jkridner> ds2: any thoughts from you?
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  • [17:19:27] <ds2> don't think there is any recent dev for joystick support in X
  • [17:19:47] <ds2> you might have to write a simple driver that reports it as mouse events
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  • [17:19:58] <ogra_> have a look at inputattach
  • [17:20:10] <ds2> you can do that in userland if you wish via the uinput stuff
  • [17:20:29] <ds2> ogra_: those are raw ADCs... need an input device for inputattach, right?
  • [17:21:02] <ogra_> hmm, i forgot ... it is years ago i touched it ...
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  • [17:21:37] <ogra_> iirc it creates a /dev/input device for exotic char devices
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  • [17:25:21] * jkridner has seen ways to do AIN0/AIN2 -> mouse via uinput, but I don't want to do that.
  • [17:25:37] * jkridner googles inputattach
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  • [17:27:04] <ds2> that sounds like it is using uinput
  • [17:27:30] <jkridner> If I understand uinput, I'd make a userspace prog to feed back in the input.
  • [17:29:10] <jkridner> I've gotten 'xinput' to report the button status.
  • [17:29:27] <jkridner> I added some xorg.conf entries to load a driver for the evdev.
  • [17:30:40] <jkridner> http://paste.debian.net/197540/
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  • [17:31:34] <ds2> yes
  • [17:31:55] <ds2> a userland driver for a /dev/input/eventXXX device
  • [17:36:11] <jkridner> :(
  • [17:36:37] <jkridner> inputattach -bare /dev/input/event4 -> inputattach: can't set line discipline
  • [17:37:21] <jkridner> if event4 shows up as a mouse in X, why would I need a userspace driver? that seems like it might only be necessary for the AIN stuff.
  • [17:39:13] <jkridner> DISPLAY=:0.0 sudo -u debian xinput query-state 16 --> http://paste.debian.net/197543/
  • [17:39:30] <jkridner> If the button is pressed, it says down.
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  • [17:46:30] <ds2> 330 gyro? heh
  • [17:46:37] <ds2> seems like there is an extra accel
  • [17:46:54] <ds2> i dont think inputattach will do what you need
  • [17:46:59] <ds2> bbl
  • [17:47:02] <jkridner> k
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  • [17:51:09] <roni__> Hi,I am a beginner. I want to do some linux kernel related work. How can i contribute?
  • [17:52:01] <agmlego|skynet> roni__: Find something lacking, and fix it.
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  • [17:58:19] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: ping again
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  • [18:00:33] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, pinctrl-single 44e10800.pinmux: pin 44e10850 already requested by rstctl.4; cannot claim for panel.15 looks like you have a pin somewhere it shouldn't be..
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  • [18:13:59] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: stripped down the dts, getting this and no display yet https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/6KOmsuET/
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  • [18:14:51] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: This is the dts https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AqT3Hpxj/
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  • [18:36:59] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, something in your base *.dtb is already taking up one of the pins..
  • [18:37:26] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: But the original LCD7 cape loads fine!
  • [18:37:53] <Abhishek_> why does recompiling it mess it up?
  • [18:40:08] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, which version of dtc?
  • [18:40:31] <Abhishek_> Version: DTC 1.4.1-g3e538ba1
  • [18:40:52] <Abhishek_> compiled the latest yesterday
  • [18:40:58] <rcn-ee> so the one for v4.1.x
  • [18:41:11] <Abhishek_> oh
  • [18:41:26] <Abhishek_> so downgrade?
  • [18:41:40] <rcn-ee> if your using 3.8 use: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RobertCNelson/tools/master/pkgs/dtc.sh
  • [18:42:35] <rcn-ee> i figure'd they would be in-compatible, thus i didn't push the new one to the deb repo yet.. Looks like you proved that. ;)
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  • [18:44:41] * Abhishek_ grunts like a guinea-pig
  • [18:44:46] <Abhishek_> :P
  • [18:49:02] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: It'd be nice if it is documented somewhere
  • [18:49:08] <Abhishek_> maybe the wikis?
  • [18:49:49] <rcn-ee> i'll document it... if that fixes your problem. ;)
  • [18:50:25] <Abhishek_> we have display, again :)
  • [18:51:11] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: see: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rg0t7EoY/
  • [18:51:55] * Abhishek_ moves to fixing display timings now
  • [18:52:08] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, https://github.com/beagleboard/bb.org-overlays/commit/56390f91e6e1977e3829af638075845dd70c44aa
  • [18:53:25] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: I believe that the dts's in these use gpio0..3 and 3.8.x use gpio1..4, correct?
  • [18:53:48] <zmatt> WHOA... and suddenly a 12-message patch set appears in my inbox since I was Cc'd o.o
  • [18:54:24] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, 3.8.x is eol.. ;)
  • [18:54:54] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: where's Jessie ;) ?
  • [18:55:04] <Abhishek_> how many bugs left now?
  • [18:55:05] <agmlego|skynet> She got lost.
  • [18:55:28] <Abhishek_> I thought maybe bugs have made her lose health
  • [18:55:34] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, it got released, weekly snapshots here: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Debian_Image_Testing_Snapshots
  • [18:55:49] <zmatt> Abhishek_: TI uses inconsistent mixes of 1-based and 0-based indexing (in both docs and code, there may disagree with each other and/or with closely related devices).... using consistent 0-based numbering is much better for one's sanity (and something I also do in my own notes/docs/spreadsheets)
  • [18:56:37] <Abhishek_> I see
  • [18:57:03] * Abhishek_ will move to 4.x only when BeagleLogic does as well
  • [18:57:13] <Abhishek_> or Jessie is stable enough
  • [18:57:23] <jkridner> Jessie is stable.
  • [18:57:34] <rcn-ee> and 3.8.x is in jessie..
  • [18:57:59] <Abhishek_> jkridner: The last Jessie image I installed, I disabled HDMI but there was still more CPU usage I remember...
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  • [18:58:45] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, how many weeks ago was that? we've been averging updated kernels every week and the lxqt guys fixed a couple cpu hogs..
  • [18:58:57] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: How does one disable HDMI in Jessie images? If that's good I might give it a shot again
  • [18:59:24] <Abhishek_> that was 1W/2W May
  • [18:59:28] <Abhishek_> IIRC
  • [19:01:06] * Abhishek_ wants to upgrade BeagleLogic from Wheezy
  • [19:01:22] <rcn-ee> jkridner, cape-universal overlay now works on 4.1.x: https://github.com/beagleboard/bb.org-overlays/commit/ef1a7a2808de388b12bd2461e5069234b2ce2fa1
  • [19:01:47] <rcn-ee> just make sure to update config-pin ;) https://github.com/cdsteinkuehler/beaglebone-universal-io
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  • [19:15:55] <uBee> Hey Guys
  • [19:16:43] <uBee> I am planning to buy Beagle bone for learning more about embedded linux and need help to choose between beaglebone and beagle bone black
  • [19:16:53] <agmlego|skynet> Buy the black.
  • [19:17:03] <agmlego|skynet> The original one is deprecated and expensive.
  • [19:18:01] <uBee> ok got it.. thanks for quick response
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  • [19:20:18] <thurgood_> the bb is better in several ways but you need to buy an external active serial cable to get into the debug console
  • [19:20:27] <thurgood_> the bbb
  • [19:21:12] <agmlego|skynet> If you need debug prior to the kernel being loaded. ;-P
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  • [19:42:25] <Abhishek_> ds2: If the display appears shifted to the right, which LCD timing parameter should I touch?
  • [19:47:01] <zmatt> back porch I guess? or possibly hsync
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  • [19:47:23] <Abhishek_> hmm, back porch seems to be working but I think I over-corrected
  • [19:47:55] <zmatt> keep in mind that (iirc) those parameters are in units of 16 pixels
  • [19:51:30] <zmatt> also it's worth reading the Freon/Primus (OMAP-L1xx / AM1xxx / C674x) TRM chapter on the LCDC: it is a slightly older version, but explains some stuff in more detail
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  • [19:52:47] <zmatt> it also cleared up confusion I had about the number of ditherer levels (turns out this changed from 15 in Freon/Peimus to 16 in Subarctic, but not all occurrences in the docs were correctly updated)
  • [19:54:11] <zmatt> e.g. whereever you see the number "3375" mentioned (15^3), read it as 4096 (16^3) instead :P
  • [19:55:06] <Abhishek_> zmatt: What's the best way to ensure that these timings are perfect correspondence to my display?
  • [19:55:22] <Abhishek_> I mean, to check if porch values are correct?
  • [19:55:41] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, find the datasheet. ;)
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  • [19:56:10] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: The datasheet values give bad display lol :P , Playing with the values manually to find the sweet spot
  • [19:56:14] <zmatt> sorry, I have no actual experience with LCD displays
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  • [19:56:28] <Abhishek_> thanks for the pointers :)
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  • [19:57:05] <zmatt> Abhishek_: double-check all units (e.g. are they in 1 pixel, 16 pixels, something else), and definitions
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  • [19:58:59] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, make sure you are reading this: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/video/display-timing.txt
  • [19:59:14] <zmatt> Abhishek_: but in general, changing the back porch should move your displayed video horizontally, unless the display also reacts to the changed hsync interval.... in that case changing the front borch by the same amount in the opposite direction will ensure your video *will* shift horizontally, since the display controller wouldn't even know
  • [19:59:19] <zmatt> *the display
  • [20:00:25] <zmatt> ah d'oh, I sometimes keep forgetting when people ask questions about peripherals, they (generally) mean the Linux driver for those peripherals
  • [20:01:43] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: That was helpful, thanks :)
  • [20:02:06] <rcn-ee> it has pretty picture, then lcd datasheets can atleast be decoded. ;)
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  • [20:04:27] <zmatt> (random fact that's not really stated explicitly anywhere I think: during sync and blank periods, the data lines are not necessarily zero: they hold the value of the last (valid) pixel
  • [20:04:31] <zmatt> )
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  • [20:07:17] <zmatt> rcn-ee: btw did you know /dev/mem (with DSYNC flag) is mapped not as device-memory but as strongly-ordered? o.O
  • [20:09:02] <rcn-ee> zmatt, for the lcd?
  • [20:09:25] <zmatt> /dev/mem in general
  • [20:09:30] <zmatt> uio also
  • [20:09:45] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: Using the table, the timing fits perfectly
  • [20:09:53] <Abhishek_> (datasheet timings)
  • [20:09:58] <rcn-ee> but... do they work? ;)
  • [20:10:21] <zmatt> (unlike normal device drivers, which do not even have the option of asking for strongly-ordered mappings via ioremap() )
  • [20:10:50] <zmatt> so that immediately explains why the CPU turned out the bottleneck in my userspace tests of the AES accelerator
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  • [20:35:36] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: https://hackaday.io/project/4410-yet-another-beaglebone-displaycaptouch-cape/log/18960-more-display
  • [20:35:41] <Abhishek_> jkridner: ^
  • [20:37:30] <rcn-ee> nice!
  • [20:38:14] <rcn-ee> for the ft5306, either use 3.14.x/4.1.x there's a bit to backport. ;)
  • [20:38:35] <rcn-ee> the bbb-exp-c has that same cap touch ic..
  • [20:38:43] <rcn-ee> so steal those dt's ;)
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  • [20:39:21] <zmatt> rcn-ee: btw, do you have any idea what the status is of power management in mainline (or your linux-dev repo)
  • [20:40:00] <rcn-ee> zmatt, i know the suspend-via-cortex-m3 firmware should 'hit' 4.2... ;)
  • [20:40:40] <rcn-ee> just finished adding the hdmi stuff, should look into the wkup-m3 driver again.. ;)
  • [20:40:50] <zmatt> that thing is icky
  • [20:41:03] <zmatt> the concept is nice though
  • [20:41:05] <rcn-ee> hdmi>hdmi-audio
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  • [20:41:23] <zmatt> but I meant more things like dynamic frequency management than suspend
  • [20:41:35] <rcn-ee> that should be working?
  • [20:41:38] <cityLights> rcn-ee: hi there, did you get a chance to test CWVW?
  • [20:41:54] <rcn-ee> cpufreq-info is showing fun stuff..
  • [20:42:34] <rcn-ee> cityLights, sorry not lately (it worked when i last tested it on atheros chipset at home), just been hacking on dt/overlays for v4.1.x
  • [20:42:36] <zmatt> okidoki, because I noticed my kernel with my dtd has considerably higher consumption than the 3.14-ti kernel I tied, but during heavy activity they are roughly equal again
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  • [20:43:06] <rcn-ee> yeap, that's the low state...
  • [20:43:12] <rcn-ee> the m3 driver should fix that. ;)
  • [20:43:23] <cityLights> thanks, please let me know what i need to do to get it in to your repo
  • [20:43:39] <zmatt> ok so what I'm seeing there is the actualy m3 involvement to briefly power stuff down
  • [20:44:32] <rcn-ee> that's the one.. nasty little core.. its' the only thing running in cpuidle states..
  • [20:44:44] <zmatt> nothing wrong with the m3 :P
  • [20:45:41] <zmatt> and I also really like the concept of the synchronization interlock (prcm signalling m3 when a8 has succesfully entered idle state)
  • [20:45:54] <rcn-ee> yeah nothing wrong with it. .(better then the omap3's method), it was fighing with cpuidle to cause this bug; http://bugs.elinux.org/issues/137
  • [20:45:58] <zmatt> the code itself looked.... TI.
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  • [20:47:13] <zmatt> I've also heard of someone who had frequent brief wakeups (CAN-related) and ended up with the A8 running in bypass mode than pll-locked
  • [20:47:27] <_av500_> every night I have brief wakeups
  • [20:47:31] <_av500_> they are not CAN related
  • [20:48:16] <zmatt> rcn-ee: it mostly sucks the M3 can't access the L3, otherwise it could have served far more versatile duties
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  • [20:51:31] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: Where's the DTO for BBB_EXP_C?
  • [20:54:23] <zmatt> (or at least not without ugly hacks... I suppose you have the A8 reserve a QDMA channel + some unused hw dma that the M3 can somehow trigger in software (seems likely there is one), and configure the normal DMA (statically) to transfer the QDMA parameters from M3 EDMA transfer copies the QDMA transfer info from M3 memory to the EDMA CC)
  • [20:55:09] <zmatt> the M3's latency to targets outside the L4WKUP would be a bit high-ish, but it would have excellent throughput ;-)
  • [20:56:22] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, https://github.com/RobertCNelson/dtb-rebuilder/blob/4.1.x/src/arm/am335x-cape-bbb-exp-c.dtsi#L73
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  • [20:57:12] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: I think I saw the edt-ft5x06 module on the 3.8.13 kernel, is there something amiss in it?
  • [20:57:22] <rcn-ee> zmatt, it'll be interesting on the am57x, as we get two m4's to play with. ;)
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  • [20:57:42] <zmatt> rcn-ee: four
  • [20:57:47] <zmatt> rcn-ee: two instances of Benelli
  • [20:58:20] <rcn-ee> true, thought they were going to try and hide the video one. ;)
  • [20:58:32] <zmatt> (same as the Ducati subsystem instantiated on the omap4 and dm81xx systems, except with the M3 cores ripped out and replaced by M4)
  • [20:58:51] <zmatt> memory management there is.... interesting though
  • [20:59:37] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: I have the FT5306 plug in to the cape EEPROM bus that runs on 100kHz, any hints if I could get it running at 400 kHz
  • [21:00:30] <zmatt> I have code running on an M3 on our dm814x board, although I was still pondering the best strategy of dealing with both of them
  • [21:00:56] <zmatt> since apart from the PPB, they are identical memory views
  • [21:01:01] <zmatt> *have
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  • [21:02:14] <zmatt> even though there's not one but *two* MMUs in the subsystem stacked after each other (the first mandatory and really weird, the second optional and ARM-like), but those already lie after the unification of the M3 buses
  • [21:03:43] <zmatt> the best strategh well-supported by toolchains would be to view the two CPUs as two threads of a single process
  • [21:04:40] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, it running at 400KHz just fine on the bbb-exp-c, it shoudl be fine.
  • [21:06:17] <zmatt> but I hate threads, I tried to see if the (PalmOS I think?) strategy for MMUless multitasking with shared libs could be made to work (task-private data in a separate section which is kept in a dedicated register)
  • [21:07:48] <zmatt> but I never got around to digging into it much before the project got shelved
  • [21:08:43] <zmatt> (there's -msingle-pic-base, but I actually don't want PIC... the code addresses are known as compile time, it's just data that requries care)
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  • [21:20:36] <zmatt> rcn-ee: btw, what I meant with really weird (L1) MMU: it does no table walking but has a fixed number of entries, specifically: four "large" pages, which are either 512 MB or 32 MB (can be selected per page), two "medium" pages which are 256 KB or 128 KB, and ten "small" pages which are 16 KB or 4 KB
  • [21:23:43] <zmatt> (and those weird counts/values are not some kind of side-effect of how the mmu works internally: the same MMU is instantiated a second time in omap4's "Tesla" subsystem, but there you have: 8x large (512 MB or 256 MB), 7x medium (1 MB or 128 KB), 3x small (32 KB or 4 KB) )
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  • [21:27:24] <rcn-ee> it's almost like they got lazy with the silicon.. Just limit it to a list of options and call it good..
  • [21:28:39] <zmatt> someone actually *chose* these values
  • [21:28:52] <zmatt> presumably for a reason
  • [21:29:03] <zmatt> (not a reason worth putting in the docs apparently)
  • [21:29:29] <rcn-ee> wonder if it was from the tesla video codec people? so the reason is all ip locked up...
  • [21:29:52] <zmatt> it's not really locked up
  • [21:30:29] <zmatt> the documentation is mostly just mediocre, it fails to explains some terms and what exactly happens under this or that circumstances
  • [21:30:59] <zmatt> it also uses non-standard terminology, I suspect coming from the (equally undocumented) VBUS protocol family
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  • [21:32:35] <zmatt> like this page bit:
  • [21:32:52] <zmatt> 3 VOLATILE volatile qualifier, see policy matrix
  • [21:32:52] <zmatt> 0x0: do not follow volatile qualifier
  • [21:32:52] <zmatt> 0x1: follow volatile qualifier
  • [21:33:07] <zmatt> (no, there's no "policy matrix" anywhere of course)
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  • [21:37:09] <zmatt> I wonder if they licensed it from a third party, since it "feels" very unlike other TI peripheral register interfaces
  • [21:38:17] <zmatt> (it's usually easy to spot a peripheral that's "out of place"... like the PWMSS modules of the AM335x, which are in fact ported from TI's C2000 real-time microcontroller series)
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  • [21:44:20] <zmatt> (lovely btw that Tesla has been declared an obsolete architecture and support dropped in the latest compiler series)
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  • [21:45:04] <rcn-ee> they supported it? ;)
  • [21:45:15] <zmatt> -mv c64t
  • [21:45:50] <zmatt> afaik the only documentation of its instruction set is... compile code, see what it outputs
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  • [21:47:27] <zmatt> but I can't blame them from dropping it, Tesla probably required special-cased handling all over the compiler
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  • [21:48:38] <zmatt> still, listing it as an "obsolete" architecture while even the omap543x still has an instance seems a bit... harsh
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  • [21:59:15] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: What does this mean: [ 55.352004] edt_ft5x06 1-0038: no platform data?
  • [22:00:58] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, sounds like it's pre-dt... time to backport ;)
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  • [22:06:03] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: Indeed, the files are different
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  • [22:10:46] <Abhishek_> rcn-ee: Is backporting gonna break compilation?
  • [22:11:35] <rcn-ee> Abhishek_, it depends. ;)
  • [22:12:13] <rcn-ee> using meld, start with 3.9.0 and compare that driver... keep working your way up and testing, till it works. ;)
  • [22:12:41] <rcn-ee> btw, at some point before 3.14.x that driver was renamed.. ;)
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  • [23:14:15] <kiwichris> Hello, the RTEMS support for Beagle boards is expanding with GSoC and general interest. On the tools side of things the RTEMS BB maintainer is asking to add support for qemu-linaro. I am just wondering if the BB support in that version of qemu has been upstreamed to the main qemu project and if anyone here has any info regarding what is happening here ?
  • [23:15:03] <jkridner> kiwichris: good question. have you tried looking at the upstream repo and diff'ing them?
  • [23:15:30] <kiwichris> jkridner, haha, watch qemu patches is a full time job :)
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  • [23:15:57] <jkridner> fair enough, but the repo should be diff-able.
  • [23:16:04] <kiwichris> jkridner, if we are not sure I think we will have to do this.
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  • [23:16:58] <kiwichris> If the patches are upstream and in qemu's patchworks we can directly build them into our qemu. We just need a list of patches.
  • [23:18:31] <kiwichris> If I have to we can support qemu and qemu-linaro but I would rather not have to do this because it adds a layer of complexity to our users, eg a Zynq qemu is not the linaro one etc
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  • [23:47:07] <ds2> jkridner: do you care to keep the ADC or TSC functionality for that kernel?
  • [23:47:35] <jkridner> yeah..., but it can be dt configured one way or the other.
  • [23:47:50] <ds2> you want one kernel to do it all?
  • [23:48:10] <ds2> if you can give up ADC functionality, I can bang out a driver for you in an hour two
  • [23:48:14] <jkridner> yeah... trying to make mods to a stock kernel.
  • [23:48:21] <ds2> coordinating is trick
  • [23:48:23] <ds2> tricky
  • [23:48:34] <jkridner> yup...
  • [23:48:50] <jkridner> again, duplicating the driver and making it either/or loaded would be fine.
  • [23:49:07] <jkridner> but, 'config-pin overlay BB-ADC' has to continue working.
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  • [23:50:04] <ds2> is a recompile acceptable?
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  • [23:50:11] <ds2> i.e. CONFIG_ADC_JS
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  • [23:50:22] <ds2> duplicating drivers adds other complexities
  • [23:51:13] <jkridner> nope. :(
  • [23:52:02] <ds2> fine.. userland it is
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  • [23:52:44] <ds2> you want it to appear as a linux joystick device or a mouse or ?
  • [23:54:18] <jkridner> well... ultimately, I want it to show up in X as a mouse, but I think the best way is to have it be a joystick and use the joystick X driver.
  • [23:54:47] <ds2> it is easy enough to do either
  • [23:55:56] <jkridner> joystick makes the most sense, since it is a joystick.
  • [23:56:07] <jkridner> with some "deadzone"
  • [23:56:27] <ds2> ah okay
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