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  • [03:14:25] <nasamuffin> hi all.. anyone with experience using mmap to talk to the gpio controllers? i don't seem to be getting correct behavior, i can read the version info but most of the other registers all show up zeroes..
  • [03:18:12] <nasamuffin> i dumped the memory i could see in the GPIO0 control registers, this doesn't match up with the reset values though, and i'm unable to set pins high via the set register, too.. https://gist.github.com/nasamuffin/fd6687861851f7f2dbcf
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  • [03:35:42] <johnpaul> Is there a good reference on how to process UART information? I can receive it and see it fine from ttyO4 (via cat or screen /dev/ttyO4 9600), but I am not that familiar with serial programming. Just looking for a pointer in the right direction.
  • [03:36:46] <veremit> johnpaul .. you probably want to code a ring-buffer and check using strcmp or similar for your desired match string
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  • [03:39:25] <johnpaul> Ah interesting, that looks like it may help. I will look into that. Working with embedded linux is challenging, but fun haha. Thanks!
  • [03:42:17] <johnpaul> veremit .. in your opinion, would this be a better approach than termios or libserial?
  • [03:43:05] <veremit> not used either of those
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  • [03:44:46] <johnpaul> Okay. I am using an ID20 RFID reader, so just looking for what is recommended
  • [03:44:51] <johnpaul> Thanks again, really appreciate it!
  • [03:45:09] <veremit> np
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  • [03:50:20] <Chris______> When will it be available?
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  • [05:43:33] <TurboBob> zmatt: you around?
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  • [05:44:45] <TurboBob> zmatt: was looking thru your example, but not having the touchscreen was a show stopper. the TSC driver and ADC driver seemed very intertwined,
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  • [05:46:06] <TurboBob> so, the solution had to be just filtering the cruddy data I was getting. its good enough now to go with
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  • [06:02:14] <ds2> they ahve to be
  • [06:02:19] <ds2> same hw
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  • [08:59:49] <limbonic> did anyone have used snappy ubuntu core in a beaglebone black? I have some problems trying to make an application to flash an LED
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  • [09:00:30] <Mikaela> isn't that Raspberry Pi 2-only?
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  • [09:02:17] <tbr> Mikaela: that's what canonical + pi-foundation pr wants you to believe
  • [09:02:28] <Mikaela> I see
  • [09:03:01] <limbonic> it works better in beaglebone black
  • [09:03:05] <limbonic> than raspberry pi
  • [09:03:31] <tbr> it's even explicitly listed on http://www.ubuntu.com/things
  • [09:04:13] <limbonic> my problem is that I dont know how to successfully add a library to my application
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  • [09:06:51] <woglinde> limbonic ?
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  • [09:08:06] <limbonic> yes woglinde
  • [09:08:24] <woglinde> -> < limbonic> my problem is that I dont know how to successfully add a library to my application
  • [09:08:29] <woglinde> what application?
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  • [09:10:40] <limbonic> i try to write an application to blink an LED using python
  • [09:10:53] <limbonic> i need to use: Adafruit_BBIO
  • [09:11:09] <limbonic> i have install successfully this library in my ubuntu desktop
  • [09:11:34] <limbonic> but i am not sure how to include this library in my app when I am building it
  • [09:12:09] <limbonic> so snappy can run the code
  • [09:14:30] <limbonic> this is my python code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10619776/
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  • [09:18:35] <tbr> limbonic: I guess that's more of a ubuntu question
  • [09:18:57] <tbr> ogra just timed out, he would have probably known the right channel for this
  • [09:19:20] <ogra_> well, there is #snappy :)
  • [09:19:52] <Mikaela> I was going to suggest that too
  • [09:19:52] <Mikaela> 2015-03-18 11:19:11+0200 -- alis: #snappy 78 :Our 4 Forces: Snappy for Things: http://www.ubuntu.com/things || Snappy for Cloud: http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy || Snappy for App Devs and Porters: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/ || Snappy for Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-ubuntu :P
  • [09:21:18] <ogra_> limbonic, but for your question ... essentially you have to add your lib to the snap
  • [09:21:26] <Mikaela> ogra_: by the way, you might want to use https://freenode.net/sasl and it looks like your nick is expired if you use ogra and anyone can go to #freenode and ask it to be dropped
  • [09:21:39] <ogra_> oops
  • [09:21:49] <woglinde> hehe
  • [09:21:53] <limbonic> I ask there also yesterday but they didn't help, then I thought maybe someone here has already use snappy in his beaglebone, I will ask also today in #snappy and hopefully someone will know :)
  • [09:22:26] <limbonic> thank you all :)
  • [09:22:28] <ogra_> limbonic, i have snappy running on ~10 different boards ... one is the beagle
  • [09:22:29] <Mikaela> to prevent that, just /msg nickserv identify ogra password
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  • [09:22:47] <limbonic> ogra_, do you know how to add library to the snap?
  • [09:23:40] <ogra_> limbonic, https://ograblog.wordpress.com/2015/02/21/meet-node-snapper-a-helper-to-easily-create-snap-packages-of-your-node-js-projects/ thi sis how i add a binary to a snap :) take a look at the node-snapper script
  • [09:24:19] <ogra_> (you will need to modify it for your use case)
  • [09:24:22] <limbonic> you are a genius!
  • [09:24:26] <limbonic> thank you
  • [09:24:44] <woglinde> o.O
  • [09:24:54] <limbonic> :)
  • [09:26:38] <ogra_> :)
  • [09:27:12] <woglinde> hm looks not diffrent to docker ;)
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  • [09:27:38] <woglinde> besides you do not have to fiddle with chroots
  • [09:27:45] <ogra_> http://www.piware.de/2015/01/snappy-package-for-robot-operating-system-tutorial/ is also a good read if you want to know how to produce rather complex snaps
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  • [09:29:00] <av500> schnaps?
  • [09:29:39] <limbonic> thank you ogra_ for the links
  • [09:30:00] <limbonic> woglinde, i am not sure id docker works for beaglebone
  • [09:30:03] <limbonic> if*
  • [09:30:06] <ogra_> av500, prost :)
  • [09:30:42] <tbr> av500: the game is: every time someone mentions the pi as a good embedded board: you drink
  • [09:30:53] <tbr> in related news, sorry for the loss of your liver
  • [09:31:19] <woglinde> ogra hm whould deboostrap works too?
  • [09:31:35] <woglinde> orga and would n't that minimize the snap a bit oo?
  • [09:31:41] <ogra_> woglinde, on the console it would
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  • [09:32:22] <ogra_> you would have to unpack the deb manually somehow though ... and the system is readonly ... but theoretically deboostrap would work, yes
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  • [09:35:41] <woglinde> why do I have to unpack them manually?
  • [09:35:47] <woglinde> apt-get would work
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  • [09:41:00] <thunder_kk> what are steps to build an custo ubuntu image for beaglebone black?? please help
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  • [09:48:14] <ogra_> woglinde, no apt get ...
  • [09:48:22] <ogra_> snappy is a new world
  • [09:49:56] <thunder_kk> @ogra how to use it? i read abt that but didn't get an idea
  • [09:50:12] <ogra_> you use snap packages instead
  • [09:50:27] <ogra_> which are more like complete project bundles and less then packages
  • [09:50:35] <ogra_> *than
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  • [09:51:59] <woglinde> ogra_ *sigh* for building the snappy
  • [09:52:14] <woglinde> or snap
  • [09:52:50] <ogra_> such a snap runs in a very restricted environment by default (only access to two writable dirs, very limited access to the rest of the system, all IPC and system access runs though frameworks which teh admin controls )
  • [09:53:23] <woglinde> *sigh* I know the concepts
  • [09:53:31] <woglinde> I talked about your build-script
  • [09:53:42] <woglinde> the snap comes not automagicly out of the air
  • [09:53:51] <ogra_> no :)
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  • [09:54:51] <woglinde> debootstrap + custom_script/commands -> base system_with_application -> snap
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  • [09:56:53] <ogra_> right, thats only an interim solution
  • [09:57:23] <ogra_> and no, no base system ...
  • [09:57:26] <thunder_kk> @ogra i am sorry but i am still not able to get you people
  • [09:57:40] <ogra_> the resultin tarball only containse the lib and usr/bin dirs
  • [09:58:06] <Parduz> hello. Having a BBB with Debian+LXDE, how can i autologin in the desktop as user "Debian" but with SU rights? I need to edit/copy/move files but i don't have permission
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  • [09:58:15] <ogra_> of the nodejs bits ... not anything of the base system that was used around it to obtain the nodejs bits
  • [09:58:17] <woglinde> ogra_ ah okay
  • [09:58:50] <woglinde> Parduz use sudo
  • [09:59:19] <ogra_> but there will be a standardized way to just define debs your snap should use (at build time though), this is all interim stuff to get things oin
  • [09:59:30] <ogra_> *going
  • [09:59:37] <woglinde> okay
  • [09:59:53] <woglinde> so the snap uses libs from the target system?
  • [09:59:56] <Parduz> from the terminal? i do but i have SU rights only in the terminal. I'd like to use the desktop apps as SU.
  • [10:00:06] <ogra_> only libc :)
  • [10:00:15] <ogra_> everything else has to come with the snap currently
  • [10:00:22] <woglinde> hm okay
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  • [10:00:31] <ogra_> there will be framework snaps that you can depend on
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  • [10:01:09] <woglinde> enough offtopic
  • [10:01:14] <ogra_> yeah
  • [10:01:32] <ogra_> go to #snappy for questions :)
  • [10:01:46] <woglinde> I have no more
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  • [10:02:14] <thunder_kk> @ogra or @woglinde please please somebody explain me steps to build emmc flasher image of ubuntu for BBB
  • [10:02:35] <woglinde> thunder_kk just use the scripts from rcn
  • [10:02:40] <ogra_> i guess you would have to to ake rcn-ee's script
  • [10:02:44] <ogra_> *take
  • [10:03:02] <thunder_kk> LINK please
  • [10:03:15] <woglinde> https://github.com/beagleboard/image-builder
  • [10:03:46] <thunder_kk> will this build emmc flasher image for BBB?
  • [10:04:02] <woglinde> how about reading the README
  • [10:04:07] <woglinde> and coming back
  • [10:04:37] <thunder_kk> ohh okay thank you very much @woglinde and @ogra_
  • [10:04:56] <ogra_> :)
  • [10:05:14] <Parduz> sorry woglinde, could you answer me? :)
  • [10:06:13] <woglinde> Parduz sorry I do not use desktop-apps with root permissions
  • [10:06:18] <woglinde> I am faster with the console
  • [10:06:55] <Parduz> sigh .... wish i have a keyboard handy
  • [10:07:06] <thunder_kk> okay i came back with another :) where are options for making image with custom kernel ?
  • [10:07:06] <woglinde> ?
  • [10:07:20] <woglinde> thunder_kk edit the script?
  • [10:07:29] <woglinde> so it uses your kernel build?
  • [10:09:31] <thunder_kk> @woglinde exactly in which script?
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  • [10:12:22] <woglinde> *sigh*
  • [10:12:30] <woglinde> I can not do you your work
  • [10:12:37] <woglinde> I and I will not
  • [10:12:45] <woglinde> ask your supervisor for another task
  • [10:13:42] <thunder_kk> thankyou
  • [10:14:27] <Parduz> New question: any idea about how to install ObTheme on the B
  • [10:14:29] <Parduz> BB?
  • [10:14:32] <Parduz> http://xyne.archlinux.ca/projects/obtheme/
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  • [10:17:03] <woglinde> Parduz isn't that a distribution question?
  • [10:18:22] <KotH> Parduz is a distribution ;)
  • [10:18:29] <Parduz> I don't know. I'm a windows developer that needs to write a program for the BBB: i'm still not sure what is distro-related and what is BBB tailored
  • [10:19:03] <KotH> Parduz: uhh... hint: get "linux for dummies" and read it
  • [10:19:16] <KotH> Parduz: you will need quite a bit of linux basics to develop anything on the bbb
  • [10:19:33] <KotH> Parduz: but installation is usually a distro specific thing
  • [10:19:40] <KotH> Parduz: unless you compile yourself
  • [10:19:52] <KotH> Parduz: then it's a build environment specific question ;)
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  • [10:20:38] <woglinde> and of course installing fancy graphic themes
  • [10:20:56] <Parduz> my starting program already runs (wxwidgets app). I was just trying to alter the theme so i could change the look of my app (a kiosk) without hardcoding the colors
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  • [10:22:28] <Parduz> but user permission and Parduz ignorance are against me. I was trying to edit the theme file but i can't save it.... and i just have a mouse a virtual keyboard where i am right now. That's why the questions
  • [10:22:53] <woglinde> you cannot ssh into the bbb?
  • [10:23:10] <KotH> Parduz: if you are running a kiosk app, then you dont want a wm at all
  • [10:23:28] <KotH> Parduz: make your application run fullscreen without window decorations
  • [10:23:33] <woglinde> Parduz did you tell your supervisor/team that you are not familiar with linux?
  • [10:23:34] <Parduz> not where i am right now (testin the app on an automation machinery in the middle of a big factory)ù
  • [10:23:40] <KotH> Parduz: potentially, set it as main xclient
  • [10:24:15] <woglinde> and wx was the poorest choice for multip-os widget system
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  • [10:24:52] <Parduz> woglinde: yes. I am the one designated to become the linux man
  • [10:25:12] <Parduz> i'm courious why is the poorest
  • [10:25:49] <Parduz> and, KotH, i dont' get what you mean with "you dont want a wm at all", sorry... could you explain?
  • [10:26:11] <KotH> woglinde: there are worse: xlib ;-)
  • [10:26:23] <KotH> Parduz: wm = window manager, in your case probably openbox
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  • [10:26:42] <Parduz> ok, ok. yes, it is openbox
  • [10:26:56] <woglinde> KotH only for unix/linux
  • [10:27:15] <woglinde> hm okay with cygwin for windows too
  • [10:27:24] <woglinde> or VxCsrc
  • [10:27:45] <KotH> Parduz: x (the unix graphical interface system that talks to the graphics card) needs a client upon startup that is supposed to handle windows and such. for a kiosk system, you dont want more than one window anyways. just your application. ie you can do without a window manager and just launch your app as main client
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  • [10:28:19] <KotH> Parduz: lots of this stuff is basic unix knowledge, you should really get that as soon as possible
  • [10:28:28] <KotH> Parduz: the linux for dummies explains quite a bit of what you need
  • [10:28:36] <KotH> Parduz: not everything though
  • [10:29:35] <Parduz> Thanks KotH. I know you're right, but for a lot of reason i need to make something to SHOW the customer we're on the road.
  • [10:30:04] <Parduz> Once his thirst will be satisfied, i'll go back to learning the stuffs one after another :)
  • [10:30:06] <KotH> Parduz: i know how that is... i've done my fair share of "i have no clue what i'm doing, but this seems to work" type of hacks
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  • [10:31:01] <KotH> and for exactly the same reason as well
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  • [10:32:08] <Parduz> well, i have to go to the machine again.
  • [10:32:12] <KotH> have fun
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  • [10:32:41] <Parduz> I'll leave this window open, in the remote case that you'll like to answer my OT questions anyway :D
  • [10:32:44] <Parduz> thanks guys
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  • [11:00:34] <BBB> Hello
  • [11:00:50] <BBB> Please make a quadcore BBB with 1GByte of ram.
  • [11:01:01] <BBB> Or more ;-)
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  • [11:01:37] <BBB> I use BBB as graphical user interface with a 7 inch display.
  • [11:01:58] <BBB> I program it in Java. Including Java Swing and other GUIs.
  • [11:02:32] <BBB> I can run normal Java programs, wich normally run on PC, with no change on BBB.
  • [11:03:07] <BBB> Is anyone of the BBB company here?
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  • [11:03:47] <BBB> Using ser2net on BBB I can connect my serial port.
  • [11:04:17] <BBB> I'm so happy with BBB. But I wish to have more ram and processig power.
  • [11:04:55] <BBB> I don't like raspberry PI.
  • [11:05:11] <BBB> Noone here?
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  • [11:05:36] <woglinde> nope
  • [11:06:24] <woglinde> bbb was not made for desktop programs in the first case
  • [11:06:49] <woglinde> use a tegra k1 when you need more power out of java
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  • [11:08:57] <BBB> Can I solder the tegra k1 to the BBB?
  • [11:09:05] <woglinde> ?
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  • [12:32:31] <Om> Hi everyone. We are working on a project which requires the beaglebone to be connected to two wifi networks. We have the following two approaches but couldn't find which one could be feasible.
  • [12:32:40] <Om> 1)One way could be connecting to one wifi network using a cape and connecting another using an adapter to the USB port. If this is possible in beaglebone black could anyone please suggest a wifi cape that can be supported by a beaglebone black.
  • [12:32:51] <Om> 2)Another way is to use two wifi adapters via a USB hub. But given that we are using a USB hub, both the adapters will have to use the common bus in order to connect to the BBBK. does the beaglebone black support this kind of connectivity?
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  • [13:51:27] <woglinde> jkridner uhm no Makfiles for building
  • [13:52:30] <av500> the days of make are over
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  • [13:54:07] <woglinde> av500 lol
  • [13:54:25] <woglinde> anyway it has not sane build framework at all
  • [13:54:36] <woglinde> besides the examples are eclipse projects
  • [13:54:56] <av500> CCS I guess
  • [13:54:57] <jkridner> woglinde: sure, Sitara apps doesn't usually do sane build systems.
  • [13:55:05] <woglinde> av500 CCS is eclipse
  • [13:55:05] <jkridner> yes, CCS is built on Eclipse.
  • [13:55:21] * jkridner made a Makefile to build StarterWare library https://gist.github.com/jadonk/a6432fde48408e72fdd7
  • [13:55:26] <cdbachmann> woglinde for my work with pruss_remoteproc, I used the makefile in labs/lab_4/solution/button_led_0/Debug
  • [13:55:32] * av500 looks for his CCS 2.x CD
  • [13:55:35] <woglinde> jkridner time to to change company culture
  • [13:55:41] <jkridner> wouldn't be hard to do the same thing.
  • [13:55:55] <woglinde> and explain these devs that the buildsystem is the most usefull thing
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  • [13:56:05] <jkridner> yeah, I'm planning some new training sessions.
  • [13:56:16] <jkridner> been a while since I've done one
  • [13:56:20] <woglinde> hehe
  • [13:56:42] <woglinde> cdbachmann okay I quick scanned only some directories
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  • [13:57:02] <jkridner> main effort of the training session will be to introduce Debian as a proxy of general GNU practices, despite a lack of support for it.
  • [13:57:33] <jkridner> (not that Debian practices and GNU practices are so tied together, but they have some useful overlap and Debian practices are generally easier to understand IMO)
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  • [13:58:10] <jkridner> and only a small subset would ever be adopted anyway.
  • [13:58:24] <woglinde> jkridner can CSS import Makefile projects?
  • [13:58:36] <woglinde> ups CCS
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  • [13:59:02] <jkridner> yeah, I think so, but I'd never trust it.
  • [13:59:22] <jkridner> data vs. procedural stuff never converts well.
  • [13:59:55] <jkridner> project files ---> Makefile might be sane, though not very readable.
  • [14:00:04] * jkridner would never trust Makefile ---> project files.
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  • [14:01:01] <woglinde> for me it worked good in eclipse
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  • [14:01:10] <woglinde> even with the autotools plugin
  • [14:01:24] <woglinde> cmake would be good to
  • [14:01:38] <woglinde> and works too on windows
  • [14:02:35] <cdbachmann> I suppose for those interested, I should mention that I managed to use lab4 to combine with mranostay's ws28xx project which although it loses the up/downcall, uses the virtio_id_rproc_serial driver for communication
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  • [14:36:18] <abferm> Has anyone experienced random reboots lately? Anyone have a fix? I never seem to be able to get even a day of uptime.
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  • [14:38:29] <tbr> abferm: things seem to have settled on "clean the battery contacts"
  • [14:38:50] <tbr> both sides, carefully, without too much force so that things don't break
  • [14:41:36] <abferm> tbr: I'm not using a battery... I have a reliable source of power and nothing that I could think of that would be causing a spike in draw that it couldn't handle.
  • [14:41:54] <tbr> oh, sorry, wrong channel :D
  • [14:42:10] <tbr> it sounded too much like a familiar issue on different hardware
  • [14:43:10] <tbr> abferm: 14:43:50 up 67 days, 6:45, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.06, 0.05
  • [14:43:29] <tbr> and that's just because I tripped over the power cable...
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  • [14:53:00] <abferm> tbr: That is odd, which kernel and and OS image are you using? A while back I remember seeing a couple others on here with the same problem, and I wonder if that is part of the issue.
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  • [14:54:39] <abferm> And it isn't a clean reboot, it is like the reset button is pushed.
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  • [14:54:53] <woglinde> abferm do you use usb devices?
  • [14:56:54] <abferm> Yeah, I have a usb cellular modem.
  • [14:57:50] <woglinde> hehe thats it
  • [14:57:54] <woglinde> musb goes beserk
  • [14:58:01] <woglinde> and watchdog resets the board
  • [14:58:05] <woglinde> sorry
  • [14:58:17] <woglinde> you have to live with it
  • [14:58:31] <abferm> I doubt hardware is the issue though, as this setup does run for hours usually before I have any sort of problem.
  • [14:58:45] <woglinde> musb breaks unpredictible
  • [14:58:56] <woglinde> sometimes hours
  • [14:59:02] <woglinde> sometimes a couple of days
  • [14:59:16] <abferm> gah, I hate musb, this isn't the first time Ive had problems with it
  • [14:59:17] <woglinde> but last not a week long
  • [14:59:39] <woglinde> ;(
  • [14:59:43] <woglinde> jepp
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  • [15:00:28] <abferm> First vbus issues, now watchdogs running out, are you sure there isn't a fix?
  • [15:00:52] <woglinde> I am sure
  • [15:01:16] <woglinde> latest upstream seems to have some fixes
  • [15:01:38] <woglinde> but not for long time issues
  • [15:02:04] <woglinde> but for 3.8 and 3.14 no chance
  • [15:02:06] <woglinde> sorry
  • [15:02:14] <abferm> fun.... Why doesn't it just restart musb instead of the entire system? That seems to work just fine for vbus errors.
  • [15:02:47] <abferm> I am running upstream...
  • [15:03:33] <abferm> 3.19.0-armv7-1
  • [15:04:03] <rcn-ee> abferm, that kernel is not optimzed for the am335x, use the "bone" variaent...
  • [15:04:28] <woglinde> abferm oh good to know that musb on 3.19 is still broken
  • [15:04:41] <tbr> abferm: also make sure that the board and modem get enough power. the power spikes caused by pulsed GSM, especially the first bits of talking to a BTS at full power can easily make the voltage drop enough to cause issues
  • [15:04:52] <woglinde> rcn-ee where is the 3.19 bone variant?
  • [15:05:10] <rcn-ee> musb it's "extra" broken on "3.19.0-armv7-1" because i have it set to work on the omap34/dm373x's "musb" ip...
  • [15:05:13] <woglinde> tbr oh intressting
  • [15:05:21] <rcn-ee> not the bone's am335x..
  • [15:05:53] <rcn-ee> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.19.1-bone4 ; sudo reboot
  • [15:07:03] <tbr> woglinde: it's part of the handshake, start at full possible power and then start regulating according to what the BTS says the RSS on their side is. That's the annoying drumming sound in the speakers
  • [15:07:17] <woglinde> rcn-ee where is the kernel hosted?
  • [15:07:48] <rcn-ee> on repos.rcn-ee.net
  • [15:08:08] <rcn-ee> any image newer then Sep 2014, has that repo enabled by default
  • [15:08:52] <woglinde> rcn-ee hm will you put the source code on the github account?
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  • [15:10:30] <rcn-ee> woglinde, it's there: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-stable-rcn-ee/tree/3.19.1-bone4
  • [15:10:51] <woglinde> args
  • [15:10:51] <rcn-ee> there's a hint in /etc/apt/sources.list that links to ^^^
  • [15:10:56] <woglinde> more confusion
  • [15:11:17] <woglinde> what is the beagleboard account now for?
  • [15:11:51] <rcn-ee> what confusion.. the beagleboard account has repos for "3.8" and "3.14" which are offically blessed as the ones to use..
  • [15:12:05] <woglinde> okay
  • [15:12:19] <woglinde> so 3.19 will be there eventually
  • [15:12:27] <rcn-ee> nope. ;)
  • [15:12:42] <rcn-ee> when "overlay's" work mainline, i'll push that version to beagleboard's repo..
  • [15:12:54] <woglinde> okay
  • [15:13:00] <rcn-ee> till then it's just a mainline kernel..
  • [15:13:01] <woglinde> so it will be 4.x than
  • [15:13:10] <woglinde> hopefully
  • [15:13:56] <rcn-ee> some people use it, but mainlly i'm just tracking mailine to make sure things still work, there are no regressions, etc.. That way when we move to newer kernel, there's less suprises..
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  • [15:14:51] <woglinde> rcn-ee hm so in your 3.19 are no special commits right?
  • [15:14:58] <rcn-ee> for example, without v4.0.x-bone build, i wouldn't have easily tracked this down: http://bugs.elinux.org/issues/137
  • [15:16:12] <rcn-ee> (need to push 3.19.1 then i can show you the delta..)
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  • [15:19:02] <rcn-ee> woglinde, okay tags pushed, you can see the patch delta here: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-stable-rcn-ee/compare/v3.19.1...3.19.1-bone4
  • [15:19:34] <rcn-ee> pretty small..
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  • [15:21:04] <abferm> would it be possible for someone to send me a link to the patch for the musb watchdog problem?
  • [15:21:34] <rcn-ee> never heard of it..
  • [15:22:53] <woglinde> abferm?
  • [15:23:06] <woglinde> look at the commit log yourself
  • [15:23:34] <rcn-ee> abferm, the watchdot and musb are seperate compoents, never heard of the musb having a dedicated watchdog subsystem....
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  • [15:27:33] <woglinde> rcn-ee hm I thought when the musb hangs or makes kernel oops and you have the watchdog configured proably the system will reboot
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  • [15:29:19] <rcn-ee> well there is a generic kernel option for panic's/opps/etc...
  • [15:29:24] <rcn-ee> (to reboot)
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  • [15:29:52] <rcn-ee> tieing it into the watchdog, would guareentee it'll reboot..
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  • [15:56:59] <rcn-ee> other then that, i also don't test the bone on that branch, so it might break...
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  • [16:34:20] <BeagleBug_> what's beagle-gsoc? there's a google project?
  • [16:34:53] <Mikaela> Google Summer of Code
  • [16:34:57] <av500> google summer of code
  • [16:35:14] <BeagleBug_> i know. relation to beagle?
  • [16:35:25] <jkridner> Google pays summer interns $5000 to work on a project over the summer...
  • [16:35:29] <Mikaela> beagle is one of the participating projects from what I understood
  • [16:35:36] <jkridner> BeagleBoard.org is a mentoring organization.
  • [16:35:46] <jkridner> project has to be on open source software.
  • [16:36:10] <jkridner> BeagleBoard.org would get an allocation to approve a certain number of projects and mentor the students through the process.
  • [16:36:19] <jkridner> s/would/will/
  • [16:36:36] <BeagleBug_> oh ok
  • [16:36:45] <jkridner> BeagleBoard.org chooses the mentors and the project proposals from students.
  • [16:37:01] <jkridner> av500 is our illustrious leader this year and I'm the co-admin.
  • [16:37:28] <jkridner> doesn't hurt to peak into #beagle every now and again to try to recruit. if any interest, head on over to #beagle-gsoc.
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  • [16:46:19] <av500> no
  • [16:46:37] <av500> there was ample talk about it though back then
  • [16:46:59] <av500> and there was some code
  • [16:47:22] <BeagleBug_> so it's too old to pursue or something else?
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  • [16:48:52] <av500> but its there at the same time as the ARM
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  • [16:49:02] <av500> but then, openCV does not handle that case easiöy
  • [16:49:04] <av500> easily
  • [16:49:13] <av500> at least back then
  • [16:49:27] <av500> so using the DSP to make it faster means to run stuff in parallel
  • [16:49:49] <av500> not just stop the ARM and wait for the DSP to finish in a synchronous call
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  • [16:50:30] <jkridner> there was enough done on the library to test a few things and some things on the DSP *could* be made faster. the parallel thing could help in speed, but scheduling stuff was a bit too tough to make it practical as OpenCV was written. AFAIR
  • [16:51:29] <BeagleBug_> ok, so no chance of 10x performance improvement on image processing apps?
  • [16:52:00] <av500> yup
  • [16:53:27] <av500> it depends
  • [16:53:27] <av500> everybody talks about performance, but nobody wants to quantify it
  • [16:53:27] <av500> speed up "what" exactly?
  • [16:53:28] <av500> just "image processing" does not help
  • [16:54:06] <BeagleBug_> background subtraction
  • [16:54:38] <clvrmnky> It's because no one likes the metrics system.
  • [16:54:43] <clvrmnky> (Ha.)
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  • [21:55:07] <mwillbanks> basically, i'm wondering how to make it so that they come up i have P9, 11-15 that i need to get input from and my boss states it is just 'magically showing up' for him
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  • [23:35:16] <Emmentaler> I just upgraded to latest debian image and configured my wireless. It works when I run "ifup wlan0" but does not come up on boot and even adding cron job @reboot doesn't bring it up. Ideas?
  • [23:36:18] <agmlego|skynet> /etc/network/interfaces?
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  • [23:37:33] <Emmentaler> yes
  • [23:38:10] <agmlego|skynet> No, that was my suggestion.
  • [23:38:10] <Emmentaler> I am using the adafruit guide version of ifaces
  • [23:38:30] <agmlego|skynet> Set it up correctly in the interfaces file, and it will come up on boot. No need for cron or anything like that.
  • [23:38:38] <agmlego|skynet> YOu have a networking subsystem; use it!
  • [23:38:58] <Emmentaler> Yes, but it stopped comeing up automatically after I upgrade to this new version of debian
  • [23:39:12] <agmlego|skynet> Then see what changed in the file or the subsystem.
  • [23:39:26] <agmlego|skynet> Might have just been a simple issue with changing syntax of the config file.
  • [23:39:37] <Emmentaler> Nothing that I can tell. The ihup wlan0 works fine from terminal
  • [23:39:47] <Emmentaler> hmmm
  • [23:39:58] <Emmentaler> Which config file?
  • [23:40:04] <agmlego|skynet> ...
  • [23:40:13] <agmlego|skynet> /etc/network/interfaces
  • [23:42:27] <Emmentaler> let me pastebin the file
  • [23:43:12] <agmlego|skynet> OK.
  • [23:43:56] <Emmentaler> http://pastebin.com/QMqj5LJJ
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  • [23:44:31] <agmlego|skynet> Right, so you are telling debian not to automatically start wlan0.
  • [23:44:41] <Emmentaler> I am?
  • [23:44:44] <agmlego|skynet> You commented out "atuo wlan0".
  • [23:44:57] <agmlego|skynet> the "auto" directive stats an interface on boot.
  • [23:45:08] <agmlego|skynet> The '#' character is a comment.
  • [23:45:19] <Emmentaler> just dumped my password too
  • [23:45:23] <Emmentaler> lol
  • [23:45:28] <Emmentaler> oh
  • [23:45:28] <agmlego|skynet> (also, now I have your password)
  • [23:45:30] <agmlego|skynet> Yup.
  • [23:45:52] * agmlego|skynet goes to eat dinner.
  • [23:46:32] <Emmentaler> I am sure that is it. Thanks. I just didn't see it
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