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  • [00:50:12] <bvsh> hey pros, how can i enable ram ecc on beaglebone linux?
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  • [00:57:05] <GenTooMan> PRU ... someone asked earlier about it and I haven't found much in terms of examples for them. They appear to be designed for low level bit level protocols and general IO. The head scratcher is 1: debugging 2: does one control the PRU from the kernel level in linux?
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  • [01:35:07] <seitensei> ugh
  • [01:35:16] <seitensei> USB port on my black is slightly loose :x
  • [01:35:40] <seitensei> 2/3 usb cables now useless
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  • [02:11:48] <ds2> finally! pru streaming 9Mbyte/sec! w/only 1 PRU
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  • [02:19:23] <Compgeke|T410> Good Evening, it it normal to connect the board to a computer and have every file on the internal storage show up as being blank 0 KB files?
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  • [02:19:43] <Compgeke|T410> Brand new Black board, OS is Windows 7 x64 and using the USB cable that came with it
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  • [02:20:19] <Compgeke|T410> using a 5V cord and a uHDMI to HDMI cable my monitor recognizes a signal, wakes up for a few seconds then goes back to sleep when trying that way. Never get display.
  • [02:22:44] <cmcqueen> GenTooMan: yes I was asking about the PRU. I managed to get remoteproc loading working, but my code was doing weird stuff. Now I'm waiting for a TI XDS100 JTAG to come, which should allow debugging of the PRU code. But I'm not sure if I can do JTAG debugging of PRU while Linux is running on the main processor (when I want to communicate between them).
  • [02:23:04] <cmcqueen> ds2: What are you up to with PRU?
  • [02:24:17] <Compgeke|T410> Alright, I lied. The only non-0KB files are u-boot.img and MLO
  • [02:24:19] <ds2> cmcqueen: live video capture
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  • [02:28:14] <ds2> incoming stream is a 27MHz 8bit parallel bus. if this is any indication, 30-40MHz streams is about the max
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  • [03:43:53] <sarin> hello
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  • [04:40:51] <Donald> Hello
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  • [04:57:07] <Compgeke|T410> Cool, got it working via SSH although my display was working it's not now. woot.
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  • [07:06:06] <zmatt> hmz, I don't think you need JTAG to do PRU debugging, it can be single-stepped from the cortex-a8 via pru's memory-mapped registers
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  • [07:07:26] <zmatt> (in fact, jtag debugging will just do exactly the same but via DAP, the PRUs don't have a JTAG TAP)
  • [07:12:02] <ds2> i found dumping things to memory more then sufficient
  • [07:12:47] <ds2> things on the PRU don't often make sense to single step as the PRU is suppose to respond to or generate signals in real time
  • [07:13:09] <zmatt> true
  • [07:14:36] <zmatt> real-time trace to ETB would be useful, but I don't think they support that
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  • [07:33:57] <zmatt> also... only 9 MB/s ? that's much less than I'd expect PRU to be capable of
  • [07:37:03] <zmatt> ds2: are you using EDMA to get data out of PRUSS local memory or are you making the PRU cores write directly to non-local RAM ?
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  • [07:38:10] <vin_> hi, I got a new bbb, and want to test under mac yosemite. I've got the drivers installed, but sometimes my mac just freeze and force me to reboot, anyone share the same experience?
  • [07:38:23] <ds2> zmatt: neither
  • [07:38:49] <zmatt> ? what are you doing with the incoming data then?
  • [07:38:53] <ds2> the problem is it needs to do processing
  • [07:39:09] <ds2> a 27MHz inbound data stream means you have about 6-7 instructions per clock
  • [07:39:26] <ds2> being async means you have to look for edges so that leaves you with about 3 intructions per clock tick
  • [07:39:44] <ds2> interrupt arm and have the arm pull data. no reason this can't be DMA'ed but that's another project
  • [07:40:30] <zmatt> no clock signal available to use the parallel capture feature?
  • [07:40:36] <ds2> there is
  • [07:40:42] <ds2> the parallel capture is just a latch
  • [07:40:49] <ds2> you still need to look for edges
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  • [07:42:56] <vin_> any help pls?
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  • [07:44:56] <zmatt> hmm, I see now, looking at the diagram... that design doesn't look very convenient (plus resynchronizing the clock is still the bottleneck, and I hope they didn't actually implement it the way they drew it in figure 4-9 )
  • [07:46:06] <ds2> as far as I can tell, they did
  • [07:46:27] <zmatt> they drew only a single flop to resync the data... one flop does not make a resynchronizer
  • [07:46:44] <zmatt> plus resyncing data and clock independently is a Bad Idea (tm)
  • [07:47:04] <ds2> the other limitation is other accesses slow down the PRU. the ARM accesses throws in an extra click every now and then :(
  • [07:47:46] <zmatt> since the data flop can go metastable and then you'll get your clock pulse visible in register while the data is bogus
  • [07:48:14] <zmatt> hmm, is there no priority config for the pruss interconnect?
  • [07:48:35] <zmatt> I vaguely recall having seen something like that
  • [07:49:48] <ds2> only between the PRUs
  • [07:50:38] <ds2> I suspect the R31 register itself is a flipflop to give it 2
  • [07:50:40] <zmatt> ah, there is such a register, but they omitted it from the current TRM
  • [07:50:51] <ds2> there is?
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  • [07:51:00] <ds2> what docs are you using?
  • [07:51:32] <zmatt> it's in rev C of the TRM (spruh73c)
  • [07:51:51] <zmatt> section 4.9.1.10 SCRP register
  • [07:51:57] <zmatt> it's ... not very informative though
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  • [07:55:39] <ds2> i was looking on the seperate pru doc
  • [07:55:43] <ds2> dl'ing rec v
  • [07:55:45] <ds2> rev C
  • [07:56:27] <zmatt> there are three useful docs... the separate pru doc (do get the latest version), the latest TRM (separate doc got reintegrated, but not quite the same content), and the old rev C doc (again not quite same content)
  • [07:59:24] <ds2> hmmm that reg may get better transfer rates
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  • [07:59:43] <ds2> if it turns out I need color, I'll look more into it
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  • [08:00:25] <ds2> right now i am dropping color at the PRU as the later consumers will convert things back to mono
  • [08:00:57] * zmatt is pondering what those 18 "elements" might be
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  • [08:02:08] <zmatt> especially since priority is afaik configured per initiator, not per target... a PRU core might perhaps count for 5 initiators or so (if read and write are considered separate), but still...
  • [08:02:25] <mrpackethead> evening
  • [08:02:35] <zmatt> morning
  • [08:03:47] <mrpackethead> well my not so exciting day was getting my board cleaing tank running happily again
  • [08:03:53] <ds2> maybe EDMA and ARM?
  • [08:04:11] <zmatt> both go through the same L4 port
  • [08:04:54] <zmatt> the L4HS (aka L4F) has only a single initiator port
  • [08:07:04] <zmatt> there's also the bridge port to pruss0 (which isn't present on the am335x but probably still included in that register)
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  • [08:08:00] <zmatt> but still I don't see 18 initiators happening... maybe the prioritization is (also) based on target after all, dunno
  • [08:08:09] <zmatt> they should have fucking labeled those bitfields :P
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  • [08:19:21] <VIJAY> I want some information regarding this BBB
  • [08:19:41] <VIJAY> Ping me
  • [08:20:06] <VIJAY> Hello
  • [08:20:17] <VIJAY> hi
  • [08:20:22] <zmatt> CTCP PING reply from VIJAY: 1.144 seconds
  • [08:20:23] <zmatt> there ya go
  • [08:20:41] <VIJAY> I want some info about Beagle board
  • [08:20:41] <zmatt> anyhow, I'm off for now, later all
  • [08:20:57] <VIJAY> k
  • [08:20:59] <av500> VIJAY: beagleboard.org
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  • [08:22:00] <Vijay> hi
  • [08:22:19] <Vijay> I want info about Beage baord
  • [08:22:42] <Vijay> I want info about Beage board
  • [08:22:47] <Vijay> ping me
  • [08:23:33] <av500> nobody will ping you
  • [08:23:38] <av500> read beagleboard.org
  • [08:24:00] <Vijay> Y?
  • [08:24:01] <av500> or ask specific questions here
  • [08:24:09] <Vijay> ok.thanks
  • [08:24:10] <woglinde> or get kicked
  • [08:24:15] <woglinde> for insulting the channel
  • [08:24:37] <Vijay> How can i create file system in BBB?
  • [08:24:46] <woglinde> mkfs
  • [08:25:00] <woglinde> as on every other linux too
  • [08:25:08] <woglinde> if you use a linux of course
  • [08:27:17] <Vijay> yes
  • [08:27:52] <woglinde> alright
  • [08:27:58] <Vijay> i want the process to make & load on BBB
  • [08:28:11] <av500> read beagleboard.org
  • [08:28:15] <av500> its all explained there
  • [08:28:41] <Vijay> In this beagleboard.org, which block?
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  • [08:28:50] <av500> getting started
  • [08:28:53] <Vijay> ok
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  • [09:16:42] <BeagleGithub> [kernel] ketul93 opened pull request #100: Solved Issues with some ISPs. (master...master) http://git.io/NbUY
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  • [12:37:27] <HeXtor> Hello, is someone here?
  • [12:40:35] <woglinde> nope
  • [12:40:43] <tbr> no, all gone for winter vacation
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  • [12:53:09] <HeXtor> hmm, ok. And someone knows how to reload a plugued sdcard with system commands?
  • [12:53:30] <tbr> "reload"?
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  • [12:54:42] <HeXtor> systemctl reload /dev/mmcblk0p1 Failed to issue method call: Job type reload is not applicable for unit dev-mmcblk0p1.device.
  • [12:56:15] <HeXtor> the sdcard can't be unmounted because is on use and systemctl stop or reload don't work
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  • [13:06:24] <tbr> HeXtor: are you booting from the sd-card or from emmc?
  • [13:10:52] <HeXtor> emmc
  • [13:12:50] <HeXtor> you think that this can work? echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/bus/pci/rescan
  • [13:14:20] <tbr> all it should take is to unmount the sd card partitions and then reinsert the card
  • [13:14:37] <tbr> but it will also depend on the kernel/distro you are running
  • [13:21:16] <HeXtor> i am running amstrong
  • [13:22:51] <HeXtor> and sorry, i think that i am booting from sdcard with uEnv.txt
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  • [13:27:05] <tbr> if you are booting from sdcard then you can't switch the card
  • [13:27:33] <tbr> or rather not as long as you are accessing it, and that's a given as long as your rootfs is on it
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  • [13:31:36] <HeXtor> ok, thx alot for the help @tbr
  • [13:32:08] <woglinde> you can only remount it ro
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  • [14:12:00] <anates> Hi, which of the SPI0-D* is the MISO-input?
  • [14:13:22] <anates> SPIO-D1?
  • [14:20:33] <pehjota> anates: On the BBB? SPI0_D0 is MISO.
  • [14:21:39] <anates> Ok, thanks!
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  • [14:22:40] <anates> If I want to connect a device with the BBB which should be able to play both master and slave (aka send data on its own without having to wait for the master), do I need two different SPI-connections?
  • [14:23:02] <anates> If yes, how do I tell the BBB that it should be master only on one connection?
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  • [14:30:14] <aswin> Hi
  • [14:30:20] <jackmitchell> anates: linux doesn't work as a slave; it can only be master
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  • [14:32:53] <geekswine> for starterware project is there any alternative to start working on it instead setting it up ??
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  • [14:34:45] <anates> @jackmitchell: I.e. I have to set up a notifier, if a pin goes on high there is new data to fetch?
  • [14:35:38] <jackmitchell> anates: that's one way of doing it, I just know that Linux can't currently act as an SPI slave device; only master
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  • [14:35:58] <jackmitchell> so you have to devise a way round it if that's how you want to do it
  • [14:38:51] <anates> The thing is, on my cape is another processor, which gets information from the BBB, handles it, awaits data from sensors, and then sends the data back. Therefore I wanted to use another SPI connection as master
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  • [16:46:12] <talin_> hello
  • [16:46:24] <talin_> i just bought a bb black
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  • [16:46:52] <talin_> i installed drivers for windows 7 (nothing really happened) and i tried to connect to its IP address without much success
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  • [16:50:58] <talin_> i'm also wondering which firmware image to download
  • [16:51:12] <talin_> there's one that says it's recommended
  • [16:51:19] <talin_> and that doesn't flash the emmc
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  • [16:56:06] <talin_> "use the provided sd card". mine didn't come with one, i think
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  • [17:51:42] <day> it died :(
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  • [19:10:27] <Auke> Hi, I had my ralink USB wifi adapter (uwn100) working with the latest Debian image
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  • [19:11:19] <Auke> after I upgraded the kernel with "cd /opt/scripts/tools/ git pull sudo ./update_kernel.sh sudo reboot" it's not showing up anymore
  • [19:11:33] <Auke> the usb device is, but "ra0" won't show up with iwconfig
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  • [19:22:53] <thurgood_> sounds like you don't have the driver for the new kernel
  • [19:23:38] <Auke> you mean the mt7601 driver? (that's the one for uwn100)
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  • [19:27:54] <Auke> ah you're right
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  • [20:02:03] <rcn-ee> Auke, the mt7601 is a seperate install: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Capes_3.8_to_3.14#mt7601u
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  • [20:12:31] <axp> anyone knows where &gpio4 is?
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  • [20:13:52] <axp> searched everything but can only find it till gpio3 ??
  • [20:14:13] <talin_> once you have used a micro sd card to install new firmware, can you use it as storage for the device?
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  • [20:15:14] <_av500_> talin_: yes, you could
  • [20:15:23] <talin_> great, thank you
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  • [20:15:47] <talin_> i think maybe i am flashing my emmc now
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  • [20:16:22] <talin_> i held the button close to the micro sd card down and powered it until they lit all of them at the same time
  • [20:16:32] <talin_> now they are blinking randomly, so i'm guessing it's being installed
  • [20:17:30] <_av500_> yes
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  • [20:27:53] <Milenko> Howdy, so I installed the debian emmc flasher to the SD card
  • [20:28:01] <Milenko> is there any indicator to progress?
  • [20:28:20] <paul175> trying to build uboot for the beaglebone black, does anyone know why there is not a config for the am335x ?
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  • [20:28:35] <Milenko> right now its the farthest left LED lit solid, 2nd one is kind of blinking, 3rd is empty, 4th is blinking rapidly (activity?)
  • [20:29:06] <_av500_> it takes a while
  • [20:29:14] <_av500_> at the end all should be solid or so
  • [20:29:46] <Milenko> so no other indicator, and i dont have to type anything in the shell?
  • [20:29:53] <tbr> dunno if that is still the case on the latest images
  • [20:30:27] <_av500_> you dont have to type anything
  • [20:30:34] <_av500_> flasher flashes automatically
  • [20:30:34] <Milenko> ok
  • [20:31:03] <paul175> trying to build uboot for the beaglebone black, does anyone know why there is not a config for the am335x ?
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  • [20:31:32] <_av500_> there is
  • [20:31:39] <_av500_> in mainline uboot
  • [20:31:48] <_av500_> it was there two years ago
  • [20:31:52] <_av500_> im sure nobody removed it
  • [20:34:21] <paul175> I got the uboot from https://github.com/beagleboard/u-boot and it looks like boards.cfg hasn't been updated in 4 years
  • [20:34:42] <tbr> sounds like wrong repo
  • [20:34:45] <tbr> use upstream
  • [20:37:37] <Milenko> Are there emulators for BBB? Like NES? I saw the SNES distribution
  • [20:37:58] <Milenko> and oddly enough when i google BeagleBone NES i get the snes distro :|
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  • [20:47:34] <Milenko> that was quick lol
  • [20:47:40] <Milenko> took about 15 minutes
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  • [20:53:46] <paul175> tbr thanks, there is a config in the uboot at ftp://ftp.denx.de/pub/u-boot/ for the beaglebone
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  • [21:15:12] <talin_> hmm, i have installed the latest debian for my bb black
  • [21:15:27] <talin_> i still can not see it in windows 7 after having installed the usb driver
  • [21:15:49] <talin_> i changed my IP to 192.168.7.3 and tried to connect to it on 192.168.7.2, but no contact
  • [21:16:07] <talin_> any tips?
  • [21:16:26] <talin_> tried to connect to it using my browser
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  • [21:18:13] <_av500_> can you connect it with ethernet?
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  • [21:18:25] <talin_> with SSH?
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  • [21:20:24] <_av500_> yes
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  • [21:21:02] <talin_> hmm, now it works
  • [21:21:15] <_av500_> good
  • [21:21:22] <talin_> cheer. why, i do not know
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  • [21:27:05] <Auke> is it possible to run jessie from a sd card?
  • [21:27:12] <Auke> (without flashing it to the BBB)
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  • [21:29:49] <rcn-ee> Auke, yes... if you look and read: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Jessie_Snapshot you'll see it..
  • [21:30:38] <Auke> oh ffs
  • [21:30:39] <Auke> sorry
  • [21:30:46] <Auke> was searching on the wrong page
  • [21:33:09] <Auke> thanks!
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  • [21:39:48] <talin_> how do you guys normally code on a bbb? ssh into it and edit code with a fancy coding environment, or do you mount its filesystem with sshfs and work from the outside?
  • [21:40:02] <talin_> c++ development
  • [21:43:18] <tholm> vi/vim?
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  • [21:46:25] <talin_> i tried to install emacs, but my filesystem is full, it seems
  • [21:46:35] <talin_> i have a micro sd card, but it's not mounted, it seems
  • [21:47:04] <talin_> i just installed debian on it
  • [21:47:27] <Milenko> i replaced lxde with fluxbox
  • [21:47:34] <tholm> try "apt-get clean"
  • [21:47:58] <Milenko> can i setup a swap partition on an SD card?
  • [21:48:37] <talin_> tholm: hmm, didn't do much
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  • [21:50:55] <rcn-ee> talin_, if you used a *.img, just follow: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Expanding_File_System_Partition_On_A_microSD
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  • [21:51:38] <talin_> rcn-ee: thank you, that looks less painful than i feared :)
  • [21:52:12] <rcn-ee> it's only painful, if you only have the 2GB eMMC and that's what your using.. Otherwise we tired to make everything easy. ;)
  • [21:55:22] <tholm> 2GB eMMC is enough for me. I only use 90MB :P
  • [21:55:51] <rcn-ee> with the 'full' lxde image?...
  • [21:56:20] <tholm> nope, with nothing :)
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  • [22:01:58] <talin_> rcn-ee: i guess it takes a while to reboot after running grow_partition
  • [22:04:09] <tholm> I want a BeagleBoard X15!!!! Cortex A15 and C66x are lovely monsters :)
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  • [22:40:26] <GenTooMan> X15? Nary I've heard of that? Are you planning on using one of the keystone processors for it? :D
  • [22:41:46] <rcn-ee> GenTooMan, it's die is cut from the dra7xx line...
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  • [23:11:03] <Auke> Ugh I'm going crazy
  • [23:11:23] <Auke> is it impossible to get the Chipsee 7 inch expansion to work with Wheezy
  • [23:11:25] <Auke> ?
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  • [23:12:37] <_av500_> why should it be impossible?
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  • [23:13:58] <rcn-ee> Auke, it works if you use the 3.14.x kernel: spcecifing this dtb: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:Capes_3.8_to_3.14#Chipsee_bbb-exp-c
  • [23:14:00] <Auke> well I've been trying for a couple of weeks now, and I'm just too big of an idiot it would seem
  • [23:14:09] <rcn-ee> also read the note about the xorg fb size.
  • [23:14:21] <Auke> When I try to do that, I get the message that he can't find the package
  • [23:14:49] <rcn-ee> "find what package"?
  • [23:15:07] <Auke> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.26-ti-r41 gives the error
  • [23:15:23] <Auke> Ehm I'll try it again, and post the error
  • [23:16:05] <rcn-ee> use: sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.14.33-ti-r50
  • [23:16:37] <rcn-ee> i don't keep every version in the repo..
  • [23:17:47] <Auke> "Unable to locate package linux-image-3.1.14.33-ti-r50
  • [23:17:49] <Auke> "
  • [23:18:12] <Auke> "Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-3.14.33-ti-r50"
  • [23:18:19] <rcn-ee> sudo apt-get update?
  • [23:18:36] <rcn-ee> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep rcn-ee ?
  • [23:18:52] <Auke> I did that before trying to install linux-image...
  • [23:19:26] <Milenko> ERROR: The certificate of `rcn-ee.net' is not trusted.
  • [23:19:27] <Milenko> The certificate has not yet been activated
  • [23:19:31] <Milenko> rcn-ee: help
  • [23:19:32] <Milenko> lol
  • [23:19:43] <rcn-ee> Milenko, fix your clock...
  • [23:19:50] <Milenko> i set the time zone O_o
  • [23:20:04] <rcn-ee> did you set "today's" date?
  • [23:20:23] * Milenko coughs
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  • [23:20:37] <Milenko> i set... last years date -_-
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  • [23:20:41] <rcn-ee> sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
  • [23:21:06] <rcn-ee> The certificate on rcn-ee.net is only good for a year. (August 2015)..
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  • [23:23:15] <Auke> Hmm still not working unfortunately
  • [23:24:01] <Auke> Could it be that the problem is that I'm on 3.8.13-bone50 right now? Or maybe not enough diskspace or something?
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  • [23:27:12] <Auke> rcn-ee: I got nothing back from cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep rcn-ee; does that mean that I have to add you to my sources or something?
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  • [23:28:17] <Milenko> the pool url didnt work for some weird ass reason, but i fixed it with date -s "17 FEB 2015 18:25:00"
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  • [23:44:45] <Auke> rcn-ee: I fear that your repo is not in my sources.list; so I guess I have to add them first and then it should work?
  • [23:46:22] <rcn-ee> Auke, then your image is too old... grab a newer snapshot of either wheezy/jessie: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2015-02-15
  • [23:46:42] <rcn-ee> at somepoint this month, a new wheezy image will replace the old anicent may 2014 release
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  • [23:53:33] <Auke> Well I do have the one from 2014/05/14. Do I need to get the test snapshot?
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