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  • [00:00:27] * Set by jkridner!~jkridner@pdpc/supporter/active/jkridner on Wed Oct 22 00:02:16 UTC 2014
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  • [00:02:29] <boogley> How would I install php on BBB over wifi? The wifi connection is on my laptop, but my BBB has no wifi capability..I know I need to use ssh, but SSH from the beaglebone or into it from my laptop? I don't have the default ANgstrom distro, so there won't be any helpful pop-up when I plug it in.
  • [00:02:46] <boogley> I hope someone here knows what I am talking about
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  • [00:06:54] <boogley> Otherwise I'm stuck in a seemingly never-ending round of trying to install dependencies for the basic php5 armhf package
  • [00:08:14] <boogley> hello? anyone at their keyboard?
  • [00:08:19] <boogley> should i just use django instead?
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  • [01:40:49] <Tenkawa> greetings all
  • [01:41:47] <Tenkawa> is there a handy script/doc out there to clone the emmc from one bbb to clone it to the emmc on several other units?
  • [01:42:01] <Tenkawa> I want to build this image up first then copy it
  • [01:43:07] <Tenkawa> I dont mind using the microsd for interim staging however when its done I want to be unit only
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  • [01:49:32] <Tenkawa> and happy new year all
  • [01:54:34] <beest> as opposed to just using dd?
  • [01:56:19] <Tenkawa> beest: I guess I could boot up from prepared sd and dd it straight in using external usb drive
  • [01:56:28] <Tenkawa> that would be simple enough true
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  • [01:57:15] <Tenkawa> I'm overthinking this late at night
  • [01:57:17] <Tenkawa> heheheh
  • [01:59:22] <beest> why would you even need to use a usb drive, just use an SD large enough to fit a bootable environment plus the disk image file
  • [01:59:39] <Tenkawa> doh good point...
  • [01:59:56] <beest> or you can avoid the sd card and just boot from a usb disk, either way
  • [02:00:03] <Tenkawa> like I said.... too sleepy I think
  • [02:00:16] <Tenkawa> thanks though
  • [02:00:41] <beest> it's fine, i thought i was underthinking your use case for a second :P
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  • [02:01:26] <Tenkawa> well I think it "is" time to sleep now...
  • [02:01:28] <Tenkawa> cheers all
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  • [02:12:44] <yates> i'm trying to learn how i can find out the network parameters (address, gateway, dns, etc.) that are assigned by dhcp using C/C++
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  • [05:46:18] <Jim_> I want to run a webserver on beaglebone black so that i can access it over internet(not on LAN nor WLAN). where can i refer for this
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  • [05:46:55] <Jim_> to control the LED on the board
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  • [05:51:29] <The_Ball> Jim_, there is already a web server running on the BBB, if you forward TCP port 80 to the BBB IP address that will work but it's insecure
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  • [05:55:57] <Jim_> that means anyone in the internet can access it. Am i correct @The_Ball
  • [05:58:31] <Jim_> how can i forward the TCP port 80 to BBB IP address?
  • [05:59:54] <The_Ball> Jim_, that's correct. You have to refer to your modem or router instructions on how to forward a prot
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  • [06:06:28] <Jim_> Thanks #The_Ball.
  • [06:07:56] <Jim_> is there any way to include security features for accessing the web server page of BBB by usrname and pwd?
  • [06:11:31] <The_Ball> Jim_, yes for sure, it's running the Apache web server which has all the features you could wish for, but you will have to configure it manually
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  • [06:19:38] <Jim_> oh. ok, I will refer that. Thanks for the information <@The_Ball>
  • [06:19:59] <Jim_> @Jim_
  • [06:20:05] <Jim_> _Jim
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  • [10:32:09] <cityoflights2> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev/commits?author=RobertCNelson makes a nice read
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  • [11:00:27] <harshul> hi everyone! I am new to GSOC. I have the experience over beaglebone and love to work with it. I want to be a future gsocer. I strongly feel I can contribute to development of beaglebone. please suggest me how shall I proceed for GSoc
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  • [11:01:53] <harshul> hi everyone! I am new to GSOC. I have the experience over beaglebone and love to work with it. I want to be a future gsocer. I strongly feel I can contribute to development of beaglebone. please suggest me how shall I proceed for GSoc
  • [11:02:49] <dmelani> gsoc?
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  • [11:03:13] <harshul> google summer of code.
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  • [12:20:50] <vaibhav_b> hey
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  • [14:22:34] <cityoflights2> is anyone here from Israel?
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  • [14:41:34] <xs_> greetings
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  • [14:44:29] <xs_> cat /etc/dogtag BeagleBoard.org BeagleBone Debian Image 2014-04-23
  • [14:44:47] <xs_> trying to do a kernel update, have done the git update, including a reset --hard to make sure
  • [14:44:48] <shay_shay> cat dog
  • [14:44:58] <shay_shay> mouse snake
  • [14:45:35] <xs_> The kernel updates fine, script exits cleanly, but doesn't update things in uboot, to use things not in uboot. I am missing a step and I cannot seem to find it
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  • [14:57:20] <Tenkawa> hi all
  • [14:58:13] <Tenkawa> can the bb black be hooked up as a usb attached device so I can directly work on the emmc while attached to another box? Thnks
  • [14:58:18] <Tenkawa> Thanks rather
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  • [15:13:11] <shubhi_> Hey ! I am new to the beaglebone community and would like to contribute.
  • [15:15:24] <shubhi_> Can someone get me started. I am well acquainted with embedded systems and have worked quite a lot with arduino and TI MSP430 uP
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  • [15:53:30] <shubhi_> Hey ! I am new to the beaglebone community and would like to contribute.
  • [15:53:41] <shubhi_> Can someone get me started. I am well acquainted with embedded systems and have worked quite a lot with arduino and TI MSP430 uP
  • [15:55:20] <thurgood_> are you having a problem?
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  • [16:00:07] <shubhi_> I recently used BBB for a quadruped robot and got interested. So I thought if I could be of some help with BBB development
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  • [16:14:32] <Kemeia> Hey guy, I have a problem editing/writing codes in Cloud9 ! When I open a new tab there should eb a space to write my code ! I cannot see anything or anywhere to write the code ! do u know how i can solve it ?
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  • [16:22:39] <Tenkawa> which device node is the usb ethernet on a new bbb debian build?
  • [16:22:48] <Tenkawa> I need to try to connect to it
  • [16:24:15] <Tenkawa> (Looking it up online too)
  • [16:25:25] <Tenkawa> I thought it was uap0 however that appears wrong
  • [16:26:59] <Tenkawa> nevermind.. found the avm device
  • [16:27:00] <Tenkawa> er acm
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  • [16:27:52] <Tenkawa> cheers all
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  • [20:54:28] <tb__> anyone here ever RMA a BBB?
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  • [20:58:05] <agmlego> Never had one needing RMA.
  • [20:58:56] <thurgood_> nope, not me
  • [20:59:29] <tb__> i might have had a bad power supply...
  • [20:59:31] <tb__> not sure
  • [20:59:35] <tb__> took two of them down
  • [20:59:47] <tb__> i got them both RMA'd and sent the power supply with them
  • [21:00:02] <tb__> everything was from adafruit
  • [21:00:27] <tb__> ...just not sure what to expect with the RMA, is all
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  • [21:10:10] <kl0wn> tb__ were they element14 boards?
  • [21:10:58] <tb__> no
  • [21:11:21] <tb__> from Adafruit, but i do not think they were Element14 boards
  • [21:11:35] <tb__> they didn't say that on them that i could see, to be honest
  • [21:14:13] <agmlego> tb__: Which Adafruit SKU did you buy?
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  • [21:15:43] <beest> the element14 boards are kinda hard to miss since they say "element14" on them in big letters
  • [21:15:56] <beest> and lack a doggie
  • [21:17:10] <tb__> nope
  • [21:17:18] <tb__> then these were NOT those
  • [21:17:36] <tb__> i don't know the SKU number--I'd have to log on to Adafruit's site to find the order
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  • [21:17:49] <tb__> but I don't believe they were E14
  • [21:18:36] <tb__> and when i submitted the RMA requests, i listed the serial number for each board on their respective form...and the RMA requests were both granted
  • [21:18:59] <tb__> (and it said at the top of the page to use a different form for E14 boards)
  • [21:19:09] <tb__> so i would say they are not E14
  • [21:19:19] <tb__> why does that matter?
  • [21:19:33] <tb__> are there known issues with E14 BBBs?
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  • [21:19:45] <agmlego> No one knows.
  • [21:19:53] <agmlego> But they are different, and cheaper.
  • [21:20:22] <tb__> these were both $55, i can tell you that
  • [21:20:26] <tb__> (each)
  • [21:20:38] <agmlego> Who are you RMA-ing through?
  • [21:20:45] <tb__> Beagle hospital
  • [21:21:03] <agmlego> I see.
  • [21:21:08] <tb__> they have received both of them, and emailed me to tell me that they'd received them...and would get back to me
  • [21:21:17] <agmlego> I would imagine that their RMA works pretty much like any other RMA.
  • [21:21:26] <tb__> just not idea as to how long that takes, and what happens during the eval process
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  • [21:22:10] <tb__> i guess what i am wondering is if it's even worthwhile to pay to fix them?
  • [21:22:33] <tb__> i have no idea if it's even possible--depending upon what's wrong, of course
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  • [21:25:36] <nick___> hi, What kind for battery can be used for beablebone board ? I need to use beableboane remotely , also battery has to be light in weight.
  • [21:25:38] <nick___> thanks
  • [21:25:51] <tb__> 5v
  • [21:25:59] <tb__> 5v regulated, i mean
  • [21:26:26] <nick___> any brand or any thing ?
  • [21:26:28] <tb__> so whatever you want--as long as it's like 4.3-5.7 volts (according to PMIC datasheet)
  • [21:26:43] <tb__> the specs say 5.0v +/- 0.25v
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  • [21:27:08] <tb__> for external power... but the PMIC data sheet says 4.3-5.7v, as i recall
  • [21:27:32] <nick___> hmmm ok
  • [21:27:34] <nick___> thanks
  • [21:27:59] <tb__> i think the thing uses like 2.3w at full-bore
  • [21:28:23] <tb__> so, you can convert that to milli-amp hours for your battery
  • [21:28:36] <tb__> P = I * E
  • [21:28:55] <tb__> 2.3 = I * 5
  • [21:29:23] <tb__> so at full load, 1GHZ...about 0.46a
  • [21:29:31] <tb__> 460 mA
  • [21:29:38] <tb__> so size your battery accordingly
  • [21:30:12] <nick___> http://www.element14.com/community/community/designcenter/single-board-computers/next-gen_beaglebone/blog/2013/08/10/bbb--rechargeable-on-board-battery-system
  • [21:30:19] <nick___> this what i found
  • [21:30:56] <tb__> 1400 maH
  • [21:31:07] <tb__> so yeah, around 3.5 hours
  • [21:31:37] <nick___> what if I want to rum motors too
  • [21:31:40] <tb__> 1400 / 460 = 3.04ish
  • [21:31:57] <nick___> run*
  • [21:32:03] <tb__> i seriously doubt you'll be using 2.3w ALL the time, lol
  • [21:32:09] <tb__> DON'T
  • [21:32:12] <tb__> not from the BBB
  • [21:32:24] <tb__> it cannot source anywhere near that amount of current
  • [21:32:32] <nick___> U have old BeagleBone
  • [21:32:32] <tb__> can you say... "poof"?
  • [21:32:37] <nick___> not the black one
  • [21:32:41] <tbr> that's why there are motor capes
  • [21:32:41] <tb__> yes, a BBW
  • [21:33:07] <tb__> so the 2.3w full-load value would be for the BBB, as i recall
  • [21:33:19] <nick___> hmm
  • [21:33:27] <tb__> you need an H-bridge with a dedicated power supply nick___
  • [21:33:56] <nick___> h bridgle for motors ?
  • [21:33:59] <tb__> what kind of motor are you talking about?
  • [21:34:02] <tb__> yes
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  • [21:34:25] <nick___> I have one of those, can run 2 dc motors
  • [21:34:39] <nick___> once I test I will get another one too
  • [21:34:39] <tb__> the H-bridge is an IC that takes current through a couple transistors for the motor, and uses a dedicated supply for the motor
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  • [21:35:43] <nick___> also, is there a good library for BB for stepper motor
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  • [21:36:57] <tb__> Derek Molloy's book gives you some C/C++ code
  • [21:37:12] <tb__> otherwise check the bonescript docs
  • [21:37:17] <tb__> (for node.js)
  • [21:37:21] <nick___> molloy make you work extra :)
  • [21:37:24] <nick___> like a lot
  • [21:37:27] <nick___> :D
  • [21:37:31] <tb__> yeah, tell me about it
  • [21:37:38] <nick___> haha
  • [21:37:46] <tb__> i've been working from his work for almost three weeks!
  • [21:37:56] <tb__> ...and am only in chapter 10 of 13
  • [21:37:58] <nick___> poor you
  • [21:38:00] <tb__> he'
  • [21:38:09] <tb__> he's been kicking my ass, lol
  • [21:38:18] <nick___> I did follow his videos.
  • [21:38:23] <tb__> me too
  • [21:38:29] <tb__> for 2+ years now
  • [21:38:38] <nick___> then I notice direct approach was better
  • [21:38:44] <nick___> like with perl to pins
  • [21:38:47] <agmlego> Note that a stepper motor of any reasonable size will want either a dedicated driver, or a pair of H-bridges.
  • [21:38:51] <nick___> sory python to pins
  • [21:39:12] <tb__> Adafruit Python library
  • [21:39:53] <nick___> I have dual h bridge for stepper motor... only with my code motor runs in one direction :D
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  • [21:40:16] <nick___> so circuit is fine, I think
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  • [21:41:15] <agmlego> A stepper motor even running one direction needs two H-bridges, unless you have a unipolar motor.
  • [21:42:05] <agmlego> Bipolar stepper motors have four wires, which are the ends of two coils. To make the motor step, you run one coil one direction, then the other, then reverse the first, then reverse the second--two h-bridges.
  • [21:42:07] <nick___> bi pollar
  • [21:42:41] <agmlego> Fortunately, Allegro makes excellent stepper driver ICs, and Pololu makes excellent breakout boards for them, so all the hard work is done.
  • [21:42:58] <agmlego> ALl you have to do then is feed the driver step and direction pulses.
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  • [21:46:16] <tb__> WOW!
  • [21:46:29] <tb__> just got RMA notification back already
  • [21:46:38] <nick___> nice to know...
  • [21:46:52] <tb__> BOTH units were found to have the VDD_3v3A rail shorted to ground
  • [21:47:11] <tb__> both will be have the processor replaced, free of charge
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  • [21:53:14] <tb__> So, $9 shipping back to me for each--although I asked if they could just ship them together in the same box...
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