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  • [05:32:59] <saharsh> hey
  • [05:33:57] <saharsh> I am an electronics engineering student and want to get acquainted with embedded system development
  • [05:34:51] <saharsh> I am thinking of getting a beagleboard and want to ask whether it is the right tool for a newbie ?
  • [05:35:18] <saharsh> I have experience with C, but none with Linux and other open source tools
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  • [05:51:20] <saharsh93> hi. anyone available ?
  • [05:51:58] <j0rd> w00t. my BBB just arrived
  • [05:52:22] <ArtyG> saharsh93, google for example code, I haven't found any shortage of it.
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  • [05:52:55] <saharsh93> Is BBB a good tool for newbies to embedded systems ?
  • [05:53:05] <j0rd> not sure
  • [05:53:16] <j0rd> id say probably more so w/ Debian being the default
  • [05:53:26] <j0rd> have you looked at the raspberry pi b+?
  • [05:53:46] <j0rd> nfi if its better/worse or not but has a pretty mature community and tools behind it now and lower $$ iirc
  • [05:53:46] <saharsh93> I have benn comparing both BBB and raspberry pi
  • [05:54:11] <j0rd> i have a 1st gen model B to compare w/
  • [05:54:22] <saharsh93> And found BBB to be more appealing but it lacks support
  • [05:54:35] <j0rd> tbth if you want to learn linux any old box will do
  • [05:54:51] <j0rd> x86 has the widest support
  • [05:55:00] <j0rd> and probably less "gotcha" moments
  • [05:55:03] <ArtyG> The BBB does have the benefit of having very easily accessible documentation by not using a BCM CPU.
  • [05:55:10] <BobCat> RPi has blocked me from following them on twitter
  • [05:55:23] <j0rd> wow, lame
  • [05:55:38] <BobCat> I am on a blacklist
  • [05:55:47] <j0rd> just the one?
  • [05:55:56] <BobCat> well. probably all of them
  • [05:56:04] <BobCat> I'm a controversial figure
  • [05:56:10] <BobCat> this looks neat http://blog.imgtec.com/powervr/mips-creator-ci20-development-board-now-available
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  • [05:56:28] <BobCat> I want to see people try it before i invest
  • [05:56:38] <ArtyG> Mmmm, the oddness that is MIPS.
  • [05:56:56] <j0rd> meh
  • [05:57:07] <j0rd> bbb is arm, most people have an x86 desktop / laptop
  • [05:57:29] <saharsh93> Yeah I want start with an ARM
  • [05:57:33] <j0rd> cool little board for $65
  • [05:57:47] <BobCat> runs android and linux, i don't care how it does it
  • [05:58:24] <j0rd> my little ADSL2 PCI card has some mips linux running on it
  • [05:59:04] <j0rd> danube or some such iirc
  • [05:59:11] <BobCat> what i want to know is why isn't the damn board just a rectangle
  • [05:59:24] <j0rd> that wld be boring
  • [05:59:25] <BobCat> things sticking out all over...
  • [05:59:25] <saharsh93> Does anyone have any links to webpages for beginners ?
  • [05:59:41] <saharsh93> As in a guide to starting with BBB ?
  • [05:59:52] <BobCat> there's one on the bbb itself
  • [06:00:20] <BobCat> enough to learn to blink things anyway
  • [06:01:19] <saharsh93> hmmm....any other resource beyond that ?
  • [06:03:52] <ds2> books :D
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  • [07:13:21] <simha> any one has tested am335x timer0 as interrupt in linux ?
  • [07:14:09] <simha> if any one done please let me know
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  • [11:19:04] <Tick> hello, Should I disable the HDMI cape if I want use a TFT LCD ?
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  • [11:31:14] <tbr> Tick: yes
  • [11:31:46] <Tick> And after that, I need to write a DTO or by default it's good ?
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  • [11:47:49] <DJHenjin> hey, I have purchased a standard FTDI USB to Serial breakout board to be able to interact with u-Boot on my BBBlack. I have been unable to elicit any kind of response with minicom or screen. I am using openSuse 13.2, and I am confused as to whether or not I need any external (install on-demand) Drivers for the device. this confusion arises from my understanding of the mentality behind the default linux kernel being one of "It should have the Bigg
  • [11:47:51] <DJHenjin> est possible amount of compatibility by default"
  • [11:50:12] <tbr> DJHenjin: does the ftdi work if you test loopback?
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  • [11:50:33] <tbr> DJHenjin: did you connect TX to RX and RX to TX as it needs to be?
  • [11:50:42] <tbr> DJHenjin: is it 5V or 3.3V?
  • [11:50:59] <DJHenjin> tbr I am actually quite new to interfacing with hardware devices,even though i have been programming for a while
  • [11:51:07] <Tick> /dev/ttyUSB0 exist ?
  • [11:51:30] <DJHenjin> I have not done any hardware based troubleshooting as of yet, /dev/ttyUSB0 Does indeed exhist
  • [11:51:48] <Tick> try putty
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  • [11:52:07] <DJHenjin> 5v 3.3 selectable via jumper
  • [11:52:17] <tbr> make sure it's set to 3.3V
  • [11:52:35] <DJHenjin> was the first thing i did
  • [11:52:41] <Tick> You only need to connect the ground and RX/TX
  • [11:52:43] <tbr> detach it from the BBB and connect RX to TX
  • [11:53:05] <tbr> then try if you can get echoed back what you type in the terminal emulator
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  • [11:56:42] <DJHenjin> I do indeed get typed input being echo'd back in terminal emulator
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  • [11:59:27] <tbr> DJHenjin: good, then that's working
  • [12:00:00] <tbr> DJHenjin: now connect RX on the FTDI to TX on the BBB and vice versa
  • [12:02:37] <DJHenjin> pins 2&&3&&6 of j1 correct?
  • [12:03:50] <tbr> sth like that, don't have the srm at hand
  • [12:05:54] <DJHenjin> k, i just have to perform a crude sex change on a couple male cables
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  • [12:15:28] <DJHenjin> no such luck
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  • [12:30:49] <DJHenjin> there, got it
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  • [12:38:42] <DJHenjin> Thank You! So very much guys!
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  • [12:43:47] <Tick> Where is uEnv.txt in the last debian image ? :/ I want to disable HDMI Cape, but there is no uEnv.txt on the mounted partition
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  • [12:44:53] <vvu> Tick: /boot
  • [12:44:56] <vvu> should be there
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  • [12:46:21] <Tick> Yes, I tried, but when I reboot, it is rewrite
  • [12:46:58] <tbr> DJHenjin: glad you got it working. :)
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  • [12:48:51] <DJHenjin> as an aside, It should be made easier to find information on the website
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  • [12:50:18] <Tick> It works now Oo
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  • [12:56:41] <Tick> (but the screen is white) :(
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  • [14:51:53] <Tick> I disable the HDMI DT, but my LCD screen still white, any idea ? :(
  • [14:53:27] <av500> what color do you want?
  • [14:55:23] <Tick> I want using my LCD like a screen
  • [14:55:36] <Tick> with desktop or terminal :/
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  • [15:59:23] <zyamada> Mornin' all. Is anyone familiar with the BB's process when performing a reboot triggered by a "shutdown -r"? I have a process that is exhibiting strange behavior only after rebooting the BB via this method.
  • [16:00:39] <zyamada> This is using Deb running of off the eMMC.
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  • [18:25:41] <Laurenceb_> hi
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  • [18:26:02] <Laurenceb_> i see no /devttyS4, why is there no uart4 on bbb?
  • [18:33:07] <Humpelstilzchen> uart4 would be ttyS3 and you might need to configure it in devicetree
  • [18:33:17] <Laurenceb_> hmm
  • [18:33:24] <Laurenceb_> so adafruit documentation is wrong
  • [18:33:31] <Laurenceb_> but im not seeing it in device tree
  • [18:34:39] <Laurenceb_> echo ADAFRUIT-UART4 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
  • [18:34:49] <Laurenceb_> -bash: echo: write error: File exists
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  • [18:38:13] <Laurenceb_> whats going on?
  • [18:38:28] <Humpelstilzchen> uh looks like they renumbered them, so uart4 is ttyS4
  • [18:38:36] <Humpelstilzchen> uhm...ttyO4 of course
  • [18:38:45] <Laurenceb_> im in the shit then
  • [18:38:49] <Laurenceb_> i need UART4
  • [18:39:05] <Humpelstilzchen> did you try /dev/ttyO4?
  • [18:39:12] <Laurenceb_> it doesnt exist
  • [18:39:20] <Laurenceb_> im trying to create it at the moment
  • [18:39:24] <Laurenceb_> but no luck so far
  • [18:39:38] <Laurenceb_> read scroll back ^
  • [18:41:06] <Laurenceb_> uh oh
  • [18:41:08] <Laurenceb_> Message from syslogd@beaglebone at Dec 5 18:39:28 ...
  • [18:41:08] <Laurenceb_> kernel:[ 5703.571778] Internal error: Oops: 17 [#1] SMP THUMB2
  • [18:44:21] <Laurenceb_> hmm i think its my custom dts file
  • [18:44:26] <Laurenceb_> i only want tx in use
  • [18:44:45] <Laurenceb_> http://pastie.org/9763084
  • [18:44:50] <Laurenceb_> ^what did i break?
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  • [18:48:10] <thurgood_> I thought they did away with ttyS in favor of ttyO when they went to the high speed serial drivers
  • [18:49:52] <Laurenceb_> yeah other dts files work ok
  • [18:50:00] <Laurenceb_> its something to do with my changes
  • [18:50:34] <Laurenceb_> do i need to reboot?
  • [18:53:50] <hitlin37> i thought pyBIBO would make it easier to deal with serial stuff. no?
  • [18:55:44] <Laurenceb_> lol works now
  • [18:55:47] <Laurenceb_> doh
  • [18:56:03] <Laurenceb_> i dont think it liked me reloading with a new dts file
  • [18:59:26] <Laurenceb_> spione=SPI(1,0)
  • [18:59:26] <Laurenceb_> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
  • [18:59:30] <Laurenceb_> lol now spi is broken
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  • [19:20:23] <Laurenceb_> hmm
  • [19:20:30] <Laurenceb_> UART4 is still glitchy
  • [19:20:34] <Laurenceb_> this is very annoying
  • [19:20:43] <Laurenceb_> echo ADAFRUIT-UART4 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots
  • [19:20:43] <Laurenceb_> -bash: echo: write error: File exists
  • [19:22:05] <Laurenceb_> http://www.corecompute.com/beagle/beagle_20140901.html
  • [19:22:09] <Laurenceb_> looks like same problem
  • [19:22:16] <Laurenceb_> a bug somewhere?
  • [19:23:14] <Laurenceb_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17707987/beaglebone-linux-issues-appending-a-line-to-a-file
  • [19:23:21] <Laurenceb_> something is broken badly somewhere
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  • [19:25:52] <Laurenceb_> anyone alive here?
  • [19:25:57] <Laurenceb_> or is the channel dead?
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  • [19:32:29] <woglinde> its friday evening
  • [19:32:35] <woglinde> what do you expect?
  • [19:33:07] <Laurenceb_> lol
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  • [19:36:50] <_av500_> did somebody say free beer?
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  • [19:43:57] <woglinde> hehe
  • [19:44:23] <ogra_> beer ?!?
  • [19:45:02] <vagrantc> bears, free the bears
  • [19:45:44] <Laurenceb_> found the issue
  • [19:45:45] <Laurenceb_> ADAFRUIT-UART4 conflict P9.13 (#9:ADAFRUIT-SPI1)
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  • [19:56:45] <woglinde> hm beer
  • [19:56:49] <woglinde> it is not to late
  • [19:56:52] <woglinde> to get one
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  • [20:01:54] <Tick> hi, do you know where I can download a recent image of Angstrom ?
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  • [20:04:14] <thurgood_> maybe thee github repo is still updated?
  • [20:05:34] <Tick> I found their nightly repo, but their is no "plug and play" image, you must compile the kernel etc ... :/
  • [20:05:42] <thurgood_> https://github.com/Angstrom-distribution
  • [20:06:14] <thurgood_> ah, 'k dunno if they still distribute images or not :/
  • [20:07:29] <plaw> free beer at 7AM? great idea!
  • [20:08:40] <Tick> I'm trying their scripts
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  • [20:16:36] <Tick> Their tools download angstrom 2013.12 :/
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  • [21:09:01] <Tick> It's me or the link of the Jessie Debian on eLinux is in reality Wheezy oO ?
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  • [21:10:09] <rcn-ee> Tick, which link?
  • [21:10:26] <Tick> https://rcn-ee.net/rootfs/bb.org/testing/2014-11-19/lxqt/BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-jessie-lxqt-armhf-2014-11-19-2gb.img.xz
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  • [21:10:34] <rcn-ee> That's jessie..
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  • [21:11:04] <Tick> I just flashed and I'm on wheezy
  • [21:11:42] <rcn-ee> It's you... ;)
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  • [21:11:57] <Tick> Maybe I missed my flash but everything seems clean
  • [21:12:54] <rcn-ee> the md5sum still matches on the server side.. it was jessie when i uploaded it on Nov 20th. ;)
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  • [21:14:28] <Tick> Ok :)
  • [21:14:41] <vvu> rcn-ee: thx for merging
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  • [21:15:27] <rcn-ee> vvu, not a problem.. if it's useful i merge. ;)
  • [21:16:13] <vvu> true, this saves me a good work of patching to your omap builder
  • [21:17:56] <vvu> also can you say how long does it take to make a rootfs on a wanboard or smth like that ?
  • [21:18:10] <vvu> on my qemu machine it takes ~10 mins with my local mirror
  • [21:18:55] <rcn-ee> vvu, 1hr 15mins: http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:8080/job/github_omap-image-builder/lastSuccessfulBuild/
  • [21:19:28] <vvu> cannot read, missing read permissions :)
  • [21:19:34] <Tick> Apparently it's my sdcard who is dead, it stay in Read Only mode :/
  • [21:19:38] <rcn-ee> it just ran: export apt_proxy=apt-proxy:3142/ ./RootStock-NG.sh -c bb.org-debian-stable-4gb
  • [21:20:00] <rcn-ee> vvu, jenkins musta changed something, that use to be world-readable....
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  • [21:20:17] <vvu> :(
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  • [21:21:53] <rcn-ee> vvu, how about now (i have github oauth managing it) http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:8080/job/github_omap-image-builder/lastSuccessfulBuild/
  • [21:22:10] <vvu> same
  • [21:22:17] <vvu> ungureanuvladvictor is missing the Overall/Read permission
  • [21:22:41] <vvu> yep can read now
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  • [21:24:53] <rcn-ee> it should help give you an idea.. that's also on the older boudary devices i.mx6 (only 1gb of ram) but still sata harddrive..
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  • [21:26:13] <vvu> yep, so i am in good case 10 mins with a fair amount of packages :)
  • [21:26:26] <rcn-ee> Tick, try: rebooting, different usb-flash adapter, etc..
  • [21:26:32] <vvu> still have sata harddrive, want to change to an ssd
  • [21:26:34] <rcn-ee> yeap, 10mins is pretty quick fo rit..
  • [21:26:36] <Tick> yep
  • [21:30:04] <Tick> I found the problem, my "dd" line was wrong :(
  • [21:30:20] <rcn-ee> hopefully you didn't take out your main drive..
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  • [21:31:36] <Tick> I swaped if= and of= :o
  • [21:31:50] <Tick> So I dump my SD card with Wheezy inside
  • [21:31:52] <Tick> Genius
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  • [21:32:48] <rcn-ee> You backed it up. ;)
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  • [21:37:19] <Timo> Hey
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  • [21:38:06] <Guest13965> How can i write a GUI ?
  • [21:39:16] <rcn-ee> etch a sketch's work great..
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  • [21:43:52] <djlewis> not the correct answer? perhaps the all steps and code is what he wanted ;)
  • [21:44:24] <djlewis> rcn-ee: hi dude
  • [21:44:26] <thurgood_> dunno the question itself was fairly ambiguous
  • [21:45:25] <rcn-ee> darn he left.. i had a good follow with play doo.. or that magic goop!
  • [21:45:35] <djlewis> hehee
  • [21:46:06] <djlewis> golly, i googled his query and what a load of info
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  • [21:46:35] <rcn-ee> totally ambiguous... ;)
  • [21:46:36] <thurgood_> probably too much unrelated stuff, based on the question that was actually asked
  • [21:46:55] <djlewis> thurgood_: dont be so serious on a friday ;)
  • [21:47:21] <thurgood_> lol, I'm feeling checked out with another nearly 2 hours to go
  • [21:47:37] <rcn-ee> or we should have pointed him to io.js as that's the fork of the week.. ;)
  • [21:48:01] <thurgood_> webapp 4tw
  • [21:49:05] <thurgood_> is io.js related to node somehow... other than language of choice?
  • [21:49:38] <rcn-ee> it's a fork of node.js by node.js top 4-5 developers... they got tired of dealing with the company sponsoring node.js..
  • [21:50:05] <thurgood_> ah.. just found that out on the googles
  • [21:54:33] <zyamada> One day I set out to learn how to make GUIs...
  • [21:54:48] <zyamada> Eighteen hours later, I completed my first webapp :\
  • [21:55:09] <_av500_> gee, old people here
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  • [21:57:39] <zyamada> I've just been getting into JavaScript after spending most my life using Perl.
  • [21:57:49] <zyamada> I feel like I've been released from a prison I never knew I was in.
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  • [22:06:05] <djlewis> my first gui was in ass'y with some C thrown in for a video card demo.
  • [22:06:19] <djlewis> 1992
  • [22:06:48] <zyamada> And I'm being called old :p
  • [22:07:49] <djlewis> Well truthfully my gui dev goes back into the 80's
  • [22:09:24] <_av500_> zyamada: nope, not calling you old
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  • [22:12:10] <zyamada> Oh thank goodness. I am having difficulties letting go of my youth.
  • [22:12:44] <djlewis> we live in our youth forever. Gets us into lots of trouble but so what.
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  • [22:17:32] <_av500_> +1
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  • [22:24:55] <plaw> kids today!
  • [22:24:58] * plaw eyerolls
  • [22:25:03] <plaw> :-P
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  • [22:31:49] <kenrestivo> i avoided gui dev for most of my life because, yuck. but now enjoying it using clojurescript and om
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  • [22:36:18] <ds2> get gooey with gui?
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  • [22:59:18] <Tick> I'm a little disappointed with the 3.14 kernel, What replaces the device tree?
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  • [23:05:59] <rcn-ee> it is a "device tree" if you want 3.8 and capemgr just: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.8.13-bone68 ; sudo reboot
  • [23:06:44] <djlewis> goodnight
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  • [23:11:35] <Tick> rcn-ee, ok thx !
  • [23:11:57] <Tick> What changes in 3.14 ? Apparently it's the kernel who makes the job
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  • [23:17:40] <plaw> rcn-ee: ooh seeing you're here, thanks for all your beagle foo! Just wanted to say that 'in person' :)
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  • [23:23:57] <Tick> rcn-ee, I have installed nothing and my BBB is already full :|
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  • [23:55:12] <zyamada> halp
  • [23:55:42] <zyamada> usr0 - 3 are blinking in sync with a patern like "blink-blink-pause"
  • [23:57:04] <zyamada> should i hit it with a hammer?
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  • [23:57:25] <zyamada> ya, i think i'll do that.
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