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  • [00:18:03] <of> I am teaching a course on system design using BBB, I have done enough experiments with I/Os, A/D. I want to use some timer interupts based experiments for my classs. I choose Python as the language for my class.
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  • [00:19:24] <of> How to I get data sheet for the Micro procesor that is being used so I can tap into Special function register etc.
  • [00:20:41] <of> Another thing is I could not find a good libray reference for Adafruit Python library.
  • [00:20:59] <veremit> good luck
  • [00:22:50] <of> I could have used C++ or python I choose Python for change.
  • [00:22:56] <agmlego> of: The library reference to a Python module is the source code to the module, in the absence of outside documentation.
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  • [00:23:22] <agmlego> of: As for the documentation for the processor, there you are looking for the TRM and SRM.
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  • [00:24:34] <kmalkki> hey.. came across a question about BB-SPIDEV
  • [00:24:41] <of> Could you kindly explain TRM and SRM
  • [00:25:05] <agmlego> of: I could.
  • [00:25:05] <kmalkki> in cape overlay: spi-max-frequency = <16000000>
  • [00:25:42] <kmalkki> but if we have 48MHz refclock and divisor is 2^n, hardware would run at 12Mhz instead?
  • [00:26:27] <of> Thanks agmlego
  • [00:26:56] <agmlego> of: No problem.
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  • [00:29:34] <of> I am interested on creating Timer based interrupts
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  • [00:30:46] <nyt-> python for the BBB is pretty sad
  • [00:30:50] <nyt-> i hear ruby is way better ;)
  • [00:31:01] <nyt-> but what youre looking for isnt going to be readily available in either
  • [00:31:49] <nyt-> look at the docs for pru programming if thats what you want
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  • [00:34:29] <agmlego> of: YOu know you can do all sorts of timer-based stuff in the underlying operating system, right?
  • [00:34:42] <agmlego> of: What level of precision are you looking for?
  • [00:36:31] <of> agmlego: should I use shell scripting for this purpose
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  • [00:37:55] <of> agmlego: I don care for precision.
  • [00:39:17] <of> agmlego: I want to perfor some hardware task with ISR, timer based
  • [00:40:29] <of> agmlego: any souce or link for TRM and SRM
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  • [00:50:32] <veremit> ~I'm not sure you have access to ISRs in linux directly. At all.
  • [00:50:44] <veremit> you do on an arduino though .. very good micro :)
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  • [00:51:20] <veremit> easy SPI/ UART and other interfaces .. great documentation, library support ...
  • [00:52:12] <veremit> timers, PWM too
  • [00:52:59] <veremit> using a high level language and an operating system to access core functions is probably not the best example.
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  • [02:41:46] <Chris_> where can I find bonescript examples?
  • [02:42:01] <Chris_> I'd like a web page with buttons and some plots
  • [02:42:17] <Chris_> I have python code I'd like to call when the button is pressed
  • [02:42:38] <Chris_> then display output data in the web browser window
  • [02:42:54] <Chris_> I don't really need bonescript
  • [02:43:04] <Chris_> anything simple that runs in the web browser is fine
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  • [02:44:01] <agmlego> ...like Python?
  • [02:45:10] <Chris_> a web interface to the python code
  • [02:45:27] <agmlego> ...like Python.
  • [02:45:29] <Chris_> a simple gui for a demonstration
  • [02:45:47] <agmlego> YOu can do server-side web stuff with python the same way you can do server-side stuff with PHP.
  • [02:46:08] <agmlego> See: All of Google's support pages.
  • [02:47:00] <Chris_> url?
  • [02:49:15] <agmlego> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=python+web+service
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  • [02:55:53] <Chris_> Yeah, that is more than I need. I really just want a simple example I can modify.
  • [02:57:56] <agmlego> Well, I am sure you know how to use a search engine as well as I. ;-P
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  • [03:02:08] <Chris_> haha. maybe.
  • [03:02:13] <Chris_> I think I found something.
  • [03:02:14] <Chris_> Thanks.
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  • [08:08:42] <tbr> Guest21225: what are you trying to do with the HDMI output?
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  • [12:16:46] <longqi> Have device tree or not, does it matter with the driver development?
  • [12:17:14] <longqi> anything need to pay extra attention?
  • [12:18:51] <av500> you need to provide DT bindings
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  • [12:19:14] <av500> if your driver needs any kind of "platform" data
  • [12:19:25] <av500> if its a pure "class" driver then no
  • [12:19:36] <longqi> do you have any example?
  • [12:19:46] <av500> /usr/src/linux
  • [12:20:40] <longqi> but the comment is not enough.
  • [12:21:28] <longqi> any simple example, like LED or buzzer?
  • [12:21:38] <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=device+driver+dt+binding
  • [12:23:11] <longqi> i will read the manual first ,https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/devicetree/usage-model.txt
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  • [12:40:44] <Laurenceb> hi
  • [12:41:22] <Laurenceb> is it possible to compile the ti kernel with capemanger support?
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  • [12:43:23] <woglinde> Laurenceb when you port it, why not
  • [12:44:10] <Laurenceb> i heard there was no capemanager for newer kernels
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  • [12:46:22] <woglinde> look it up yourself and you will know for sure
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  • [12:48:50] <KotH> i know a certain guy who is beating the hell out of kernel maintainers to get teh dto code merged into mainline
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  • [12:49:13] <Laurenceb> ive been planning to use the BBIO python libs
  • [12:49:20] <Laurenceb> but i also want usb host
  • [12:49:22] <woglinde> KotH panto was here yesterday
  • [12:49:43] <Laurenceb> which works with --ti-kernel
  • [12:49:51] <longqi> as long as you leave the i2c2 configuration in the device tree. it will show up in your /sys/device/bone.cam...
  • [12:49:56] <Laurenceb> but latest stable kernel is 3.8.13
  • [12:50:05] <Laurenceb> which doesnt support usb host properly
  • [12:50:26] <Laurenceb> sure, with ti kernel i cont have any cape stuff
  • [12:50:36] <Laurenceb> so BBIO wont run
  • [12:50:52] <longqi> 3.8.13 bone67 support the usb host well
  • [12:50:59] <Laurenceb> it doesnt
  • [12:51:00] <longqi> i trid already
  • [12:51:06] <Laurenceb> i have it running here
  • [12:51:08] <abferm> not hot swap
  • [12:51:13] <Laurenceb> i get "nuking devices"
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  • [12:51:23] <Laurenceb> which is unrecoverable
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  • [12:52:28] <Laurenceb> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/ti-linux-kernel
  • [12:52:32] <Laurenceb> that works very nicelyu
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  • [12:54:08] <Laurenceb> apart from no capes?
  • [12:54:36] <Laurenceb> yeah nothing in drivers
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  • [12:55:11] <Laurenceb> hmm wtf
  • [12:55:20] <Laurenceb> im sure ti intend you to be able to use adc etc
  • [12:55:34] <KotH> i'm not sure whether ti wants anyone using ther cpus
  • [12:55:40] <Laurenceb> lolz
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  • [12:55:44] <KotH> i'm sure they want you to buy them, but use?
  • [12:56:11] <Laurenceb> ohhhhhh
  • [12:56:12] <Laurenceb> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_ADC_Driver%27s_Guide
  • [12:56:23] <Laurenceb> looks like the kernel was built without adc support lolz
  • [12:56:39] <Laurenceb> there is no iio under /sys/bus
  • [12:59:48] <Laurenceb> grrr
  • [12:59:56] <Laurenceb> surely someone has built this already
  • [13:00:41] <mdp> there are many kernels
  • [13:00:47] <Laurenceb> yeah heh
  • [13:00:48] <KotH> +1
  • [13:01:10] <Laurenceb> anyone seen a ti kernel with capemanager?
  • [13:01:17] <Laurenceb> hmmm
  • [13:01:30] <Laurenceb> maybe the 3.8.13 ti kernel has fixed adc
  • [13:01:57] <mdp> "fixed adc"
  • [13:02:07] <Laurenceb> erm
  • [13:02:10] <Laurenceb> fixed usb host
  • [13:02:14] <Laurenceb> lol
  • [13:02:37] <Laurenceb> ive tried 3.12 and it was fixed in ti kernel
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  • [13:03:25] <mdp> so run that
  • [13:03:43] <Laurenceb> it doesnt support capemanager
  • [13:04:05] <mdp> so build a dts with what you need and move on
  • [13:04:12] <Laurenceb> huh
  • [13:04:21] <mdp> staticly
  • [13:04:27] <Laurenceb> i cant do anything with no capemanager?
  • [13:04:54] <Laurenceb> there is no iio under /sys/bus
  • [13:05:30] <mdp> build your kernel with iio and the drivers you want...add the appropriate notes to the dts..compikle it boot kernel with the resultant dtb
  • [13:05:31] <mdp> done
  • [13:05:42] <Laurenceb> ok...
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  • [13:05:49] <Laurenceb> hmm
  • [13:05:59] <Laurenceb> sounds beyond my skill level
  • [13:06:02] <mdp> it's how the rest of the world outside beagle-land works with the kernel
  • [13:06:12] <Laurenceb> hmm
  • [13:06:19] <mdp> Laurenceb: no it's not..it just takes some investment of time..you can do it.
  • [13:06:22] <Laurenceb> ok ill try it O_o
  • [13:06:55] <mdp> it would take longer to bang your head against all the things that don't work in older and scattered kernels
  • [13:07:09] <Laurenceb> yeah, thats what ive been doing for the past week and a half
  • [13:07:16] <Laurenceb> havent achieved anything
  • [13:07:26] <mdp> you might consider using rcn's recent kernel builds as a starting point
  • [13:08:00] <Laurenceb> yeah im running his atm
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  • [13:09:06] <Laurenceb> ok ill see if he has a guide
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  • [13:09:56] <mdp> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/stable-kernel
  • [13:09:59] <mdp> guide there
  • [13:10:06] <Laurenceb> thanks
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  • [13:11:39] <Laurenceb> but i already have stable kernel
  • [13:11:46] <Laurenceb> im going to have to get the ti kernel to run
  • [13:12:21] <Laurenceb> http://git.ti.com/gitweb/?p=ti-linux-kernel/ti-linux-kernel.git
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  • [13:13:01] <av500> Laurenceb: please stay away from "TI" kernels
  • [13:13:52] <Laurenceb> why?
  • [13:14:01] <Laurenceb> at least usb works
  • [13:14:06] <av500> because there is a BBB kernel, the one RCN provides
  • [13:14:14] <av500> its the one most BBB users run and can relate to
  • [13:14:26] <Laurenceb> yeah but you have to choose between usb host or capemanager?
  • [13:14:33] <av500> if you find something not working, bring it up on the mailing list
  • [13:14:45] <Laurenceb> its already there
  • [13:14:53] <Laurenceb> no cape manager on the newer kernels
  • [13:14:56] <av500> I dont think the Debian kernel has capemanager anyway
  • [13:15:00] <Laurenceb> wut
  • [13:15:06] <Laurenceb> ok maybe im wrong
  • [13:15:17] <av500> so ignore capamanager
  • [13:15:19] <av500> its not the only way
  • [13:15:21] <Laurenceb> but python BBIO only runs with 3.8.13
  • [13:15:31] <av500> ah well
  • [13:15:49] <Laurenceb> cape-bone-iio-00A0.dts
  • [13:16:02] <Laurenceb> it needs to send that to slots
  • [13:16:12] <Laurenceb> then look in /sys/bus/iio
  • [13:16:15] <av500> yes
  • [13:16:20] <av500> it was written at that time
  • [13:16:22] <av500> but that time is over
  • [13:16:23] <Laurenceb> none of this is present on >3.8.13
  • [13:16:29] <av500> exactly
  • [13:16:37] <Laurenceb> hmm
  • [13:16:40] <av500> so why base your work on something that is not supported forward
  • [13:16:43] <Laurenceb> so i can fix BBIO?
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  • [13:16:52] <Laurenceb> BBIO looks pretty simple
  • [13:16:56] <av500> you can use old angstrom images with 3.8.13
  • [13:17:02] <av500> and be done
  • [13:17:11] <av500> if you insist on BBIO "as is"
  • [13:17:15] <Laurenceb> i dont
  • [13:17:18] <av500> or work on it to make it work on newer kernels
  • [13:17:23] <Laurenceb> ok
  • [13:17:28] <av500> talk to alex hiam
  • [13:17:32] <Laurenceb> that sounds doable
  • [13:17:35] <av500> maybe he has ideas
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  • [13:17:51] <Laurenceb> so how can i use the adc in newer kernels?
  • [13:17:59] <abferm> so, how do you load dt fragments if there isn't a cape manager
  • [13:18:21] <av500> you dont
  • [13:18:30] <av500> you load one DT at boot that has what you need
  • [13:18:38] <Laurenceb> hmm
  • [13:18:41] <av500> overlays are "in the works" in mainline
  • [13:18:43] <av500> it might take a while
  • [13:18:49] <Laurenceb> how long?
  • [13:18:50] <av500> then something like capemgr might be back
  • [13:18:55] <Laurenceb> ok
  • [13:18:59] <abferm> so you have to recompile your device tree every time you make a hardware change?
  • [13:19:03] <av500> this long: |<------------------------------>|
  • [13:19:05] <Laurenceb> i can wait, i have dev work to do
  • [13:19:14] <Laurenceb> so ill stay with 3.8.13
  • [13:19:14] <av500> (not to scale)
  • [13:19:20] <Laurenceb> and wait for BBIO to be fixed
  • [13:19:30] <Laurenceb> i can develop the python code in the meantime
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  • [13:22:51] <av500> Laurenceb: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/rscm
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  • [13:23:26] <Laurenceb> that doesnt support everythingi need
  • [13:23:35] <Laurenceb> i need usart, i2c, spi, gpio, adc
  • [13:23:39] <av500> then add the DT stuff for your HW
  • [13:23:47] <av500> do you really change HW at runtime?
  • [13:23:57] <av500> if not, you are fine with a fixed tree
  • [13:23:58] <Laurenceb> no
  • [13:24:01] <av500> so
  • [13:26:43] <av500> ?
  • [13:28:55] <Laurenceb> i dont understand
  • [13:29:07] <Laurenceb> where will the adc appear?
  • [13:29:39] <av500> ?
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  • [13:29:54] <av500> somewhere in /dev/ I guess
  • [13:30:24] <Laurenceb> hmf
  • [13:30:38] <av500> overlay or not does not change how a driver itself works
  • [13:30:40] <Laurenceb> but only after the DT thing is loaded?
  • [13:30:47] <av500> its just runtime vs boot time
  • [13:30:57] <av500> yes, but without any DT, you have nothing
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  • [13:30:58] <Laurenceb> oh it has to reboot
  • [13:31:00] <Laurenceb> i see
  • [13:31:01] <av500> yes
  • [13:31:06] <Laurenceb> i didnt try that before
  • [13:31:10] <av500> as said, your HW does not change on the fly
  • [13:31:16] <Laurenceb> ok ill have another go at this later
  • [13:31:35] <Laurenceb> first i need to modify some more board to fix RTC, shutdown and battery amangement
  • [13:31:38] <Laurenceb> *boards
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  • [13:32:04] <Laurenceb> i should document this lol
  • [13:32:15] <Laurenceb> could be useful for a new PCB revision
  • [13:32:43] <Laurenceb> added a cap across the top of U4 to force it to shutdown correctly
  • [13:32:58] <av500> again, mailing list
  • [13:33:05] <av500> for hw changes, ping Gerald
  • [13:33:12] <Laurenceb> ok, one thing at a time, soldering time atm :D
  • [13:33:25] <av500> check which end is the warm one
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  • [13:35:20] <mdp> Laurenceb: it appears here: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-iio
  • [13:36:59] <mdp> more kernel docs tell you how to fill out your dts with examples: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/touchscreen/ti-tsc-adc.txt
  • [13:37:01] <Laurenceb> thanks
  • [13:39:11] <mdp> you can also look through the various cape fragments for what settings are none to work when building your dts. https://github.com/beagleboard/meta-beagleboard/tree/master/common-bsp/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-mainline-3.8/not-capebus
  • [13:40:06] <av500> known
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  • [14:22:51] <LuaStoned> Hey, i'm trying to write data via SPI using the PRU. CS high works, writing the data doesn't seem to do anything though. Here's the code http://hastebin.com/xumipojara.p
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  • [14:25:23] <LuaStoned> the C version does basically the same: HWREG(0x481A0000 + MCSPI_TX(0)) = txData; MCSPI_TX(0) = 0x138 ..
  • [14:27:44] <av500> and that works?
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  • [14:29:23] <LuaStoned> chip select works, yeah
  • [14:29:29] <LuaStoned> and the C version works too..
  • [14:30:17] <LuaStoned> the C version is straight from TI's McSPI.. I'm using that as a reference
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  • [14:35:10] <av500> do you have to trigger the transfer?
  • [14:35:13] <av500> somehow?
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  • [14:35:38] <LuaStoned> with the C version no, not at all..
  • [14:35:55] <av500> pastebin the C code
  • [14:37:03] <LuaStoned> http://hastebin.com/sajarevoto.cpp
  • [14:37:25] <LuaStoned> the wordlength doesnt matter right now since it doesnt change..
  • [14:38:25] <KotH> has that code anything to do with sarajevo?
  • [14:38:34] <KotH> and why the DCT is it c++?
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  • [14:38:55] <LuaStoned> hastebin does some weird things I guess..
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  • [14:41:24] <av500> LuaStoned: there is a while loop
  • [14:41:30] <av500> where is that in your code?
  • [14:42:39] <LuaStoned> it's commented out in my C function? I guess I could add it but it works without it..
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  • [14:47:33] <av500> ok, no while loop
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  • [14:51:29] <adugenske> Has anyone been successful at enabling the I2C2 bus so the exposed IC2 pins can be used?
  • [14:52:28] <mdp> yes
  • [14:53:50] <adugenske> Can you point me to some directions for getting it working on rev C?
  • [14:56:36] <Laurenceb> wohoo
  • [14:56:45] <Laurenceb> 4GB revC mods work
  • [14:57:00] <Laurenceb> shutdown down to <100�A
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  • [15:03:29] <LuaStoned> av500 do you happen to know other people that work with the PRU?
  • [15:03:42] <av500> there are a few
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  • [15:08:13] <KotH> a few come here, bitch about things not working, and leave a couple of days later
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  • [15:10:29] <mdp> adugenske: does it work differently on a rev C?
  • [15:12:59] <LuaStoned> KotH I've been sticking around even with some things not working :P
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  • [15:13:18] <KotH> LuaStoned: you seem to code under influence ;)
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  • [15:13:35] <LuaStoned> it would just be cool to talk to someone with "more" PRU knowledge, I'm pretty sure I could learn/optimize so much more..
  • [15:13:57] <LuaStoned> Haha, that's one way to see that yeah
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  • [15:31:36] <av500> LuaStoned: btw, why PRU for SPI?
  • [15:38:00] <adugenske> mdp I don't think so.
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  • [15:42:13] <mdp> adugenske: fwiw, I run rcn's stock 3.16.2-bone5 kernel debs on a Rev A5a..and by default i2c2 is pinmuxed so that capes will be detected. I use i2c-dev for my project.
  • [15:42:52] <mdp> for that matter, I can use i2c0 (no surprise, needed for pmic) or i2c2.
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  • [15:47:49] <adugenske> I'm running Debian and trying to communicate with an Adafruit device via the header pins. I've run i2cdetect, but only I2C-1 & I2C-0 are being displayed, and nothing for the device at 0x40.
  • [15:50:52] <adugenske> mdp Can you expand on using i2c-dev?
  • [15:52:04] <mdp> adugenske: if you do a "dtc -I dtb -O dts -o ~/am335x-boneblack.dts /boot/dtbs/.../am335x-boneblack.dtb" to get your dts...does it show i2c2 properly?
  • [15:53:10] <adugenske> mdp Dumb question, should I enter all in quotes?
  • [15:53:31] <mdp> drop the quotes
  • [15:54:06] <adugenske> mdp Received: FATAL ERROR: Couldn't open "/boot/dtbs/.../am335x-boneblack.dtb": No such file or directory
  • [15:54:29] <LuaStoned> av500 the PRU can output at a steady rate (10000x / sec), doing that on the host OS would eat CPU like nothing else and be interrupted by other tasks etc..
  • [15:55:33] <LuaStoned> av500 I'm using the 2nd PRU to interrupt the first 10000times/sec and on each interrupt output data to SPI..
  • [15:55:54] <mdp> adugenske: replace the ... with whatever the path is to the kernel you are running
  • [15:56:07] <mdp> adugenske: as the dtb that was used to boot is stored there.
  • [15:56:42] <adugenske> mdp Where would the kernal be located?
  • [15:56:59] <mdp> do "uname -a"
  • [15:57:36] <adugenske> mdp: Result = Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone47 #1 SMP Fri Apr 11 01:36:09 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [15:58:28] <mdp> adugenske: "dtc -I dtb -O dts -o ~/am335x-boneblack.dts /boot/dtbs/3.8.13-bone47/am335x-boneblack.dtb"
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  • [15:59:32] <adugenske> mdp: Getting fatal error again.
  • [15:59:42] <adugenske> mdp: does ~ need to be changed?
  • [16:00:22] <mdp> just cd through /boot and see where your dtb is at
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  • [16:01:22] <mdp> find /boot -name am335x-boneblack.dtb
  • [16:01:51] <adugenske> mdp: found it here: /boot/uboot/dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb
  • [16:03:21] <mdp> ahh, ok, that's the default spot..my updated kernel has it elsewhere.
  • [16:04:01] <mdp> adugenske: "dtc -I dtb -O dts -o ~/am335x-boneblack.dts /boot/uboot/dtbs/am335x-boneblack.dtb"
  • [16:04:58] * mdp recalls that the 3.8 kernel/dts is broken is so many ways it may have some of these instances off or misnumbered
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  • [16:05:50] <adugenske> mdp: Runs without error, but no output.
  • [16:06:14] <mdp> good, the output is in ~/am335x-boneblack.dts
  • [16:06:32] <mdp> pastebin that file if you can
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  • [16:07:02] <mdp> adugenske: that's the decompiled source of the device tree that you are booting with
  • [16:07:44] <adugenske> mdp: Just download it. Contains 37 lines.
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  • [16:08:47] <adugenske> mdp My editor is showing quite a few �, but I guess that is ok
  • [16:09:31] <mdp> that doesn't sound good
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  • [16:09:45] <mdp> are you sure you are looking at the dts and not the dtb?
  • [16:11:42] <adugenske> mdp You are right. I was looking at the dtb, I'm guessing the dts is in different location
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  • [16:12:13] <mdp> in your user's home directory...given the command above
  • [16:12:30] <mdp> open ~/am335x-boneblack.dts in your editor
  • [16:14:06] <KotH> mdp: but it's done
  • [16:14:16] <KotH> mdp: the 3.8 kernel
  • [16:14:33] <adugenske> mdp: interesting, no *.dts files in /home/root. Could it be somewhere else?
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  • [16:15:54] <mdp> adugenske: you got me...it's only somewhere else if you ran that command as a different user ;)
  • [16:16:08] <mdp> this is now squarely a Linux system administration issue ;)
  • [16:16:30] <mdp> KotH: one of the last great kernels, indeed.
  • [16:16:54] <adugenske> mdp If I find am335x-boneblack.dts, how should I modify?
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  • [16:17:36] <mdp> adugenske: I just wanted to take a look at see what i2c nodes are enabled.
  • [16:18:10] <adugenske> mdp: I just found the dts file.
  • [16:18:39] <Laurenceb> any ideas how i can install devmem2 on BBB?
  • [16:19:17] <woglinde> Laurenceb scp
  • [16:19:21] <Laurenceb> ooh
  • [16:19:24] <Laurenceb> www.lartmaker.nl/lartware/port/devmem2.c
  • [16:19:25] <woglinde> usbstick?
  • [16:19:26] <Laurenceb> perfect
  • [16:19:27] <mdp> gcc -o devmem2 devmem2.c
  • [16:19:30] <Laurenceb> heh
  • [16:19:50] <adugenske> mdp I found it here /root/am335x-boneblack.dts
  • [16:21:20] <adugenske> mdp: here you go for i2c2 pinmux_i2c2_pins {
  • [16:21:20] <adugenske> pinctrl-single,pins = <0x178 0x73 0x17c 0x73>;
  • [16:21:20] <adugenske> linux,phandle = <0x7>;
  • [16:21:20] <adugenske> phandle = <0x7>;
  • [16:21:20] <adugenske> };
  • [16:22:05] <KotH> Laurenceb: what did i tell you about NOT USING /dev/mem?
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  • [16:22:49] <Laurenceb> heh
  • [16:22:50] <mdp> KotH: that we should only use /dev/exynos-mem ?
  • [16:23:00] <KotH> mdp: exactly!
  • [16:23:12] * KotH gives mdp some cru sauvage, then leaves
  • [16:23:22] <Laurenceb> uh oh
  • [16:23:23] <Laurenceb> Written 0x0; readback 0x80
  • [16:23:42] <KotH> Laurenceb: welcome to the world of registers
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  • [16:25:37] <mdp> adugenske: and do you have a node that starts with:
  • [16:25:49] <mdp> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/IQWjx9kd
  • [16:26:01] <mdp> or thereabouts
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  • [16:27:11] <adugenske> mdp: Yes!
  • [16:28:08] <mdp> what does "ls /sys/class/i2c-adapter" tell you?
  • [16:29:00] <mdp> also do you have:
  • [16:29:07] <mdp> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/U7CT8kGc
  • [16:29:17] <adugenske> mdp returns i2c-0 i2c-1
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  • [16:30:33] <adugenske> mdp Yes, the second pastbin is locaed in the dts
  • [16:31:22] <mdp> ok, so i2c-1 is the hardware i2c2
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  • [16:37:25] <Laurenceb> hmf
  • [16:37:33] <Laurenceb> i seem to be blocked from gpio 2 and 3
  • [16:37:34] <Laurenceb> wtf
  • [16:38:53] <adugenske> mdp: I think the device may be responding since I'm receiving the following: 40: 40 -- -- -- -- -- - from a i2cdetect, and my device is at 0x40
  • [16:39:10] <mdp> that's it!
  • [16:39:18] <mdp> on i2c-1, correct?
  • [16:39:27] <adugenske> mdp: yes.
  • [16:39:39] <adugenske> mdp is there a command line way to read it?
  • [16:39:44] <mdp> cool, so just so you understand why this is misnumbered....
  • [16:40:10] <mdp> that dts file controls which actual hardware i2c blocks are "visible" to the kernel.
  • [16:40:26] <mdp> so the one called i2c1 is disabled
  • [16:40:52] <mdp> and the kernel driver sees i2c0 and i2c2...but he implements a sequential numberbing scheme for the driver instances
  • [16:41:07] <mdp> which unfortunately names them as i2c0 and i2c1
  • [16:41:28] <adugenske> mdp: Thanks so much for your help!
  • [16:41:34] <mdp> np
  • [16:41:45] <mdp> so ok, you did an i2cdetect and see it.
  • [16:41:52] <adugenske> mdp: Is there a command line way to read the device at 0x40
  • [16:42:46] <adugenske> mdp: Yes, i2cdetect -y -r 1
  • [16:42:56] <mdp> i2cdump will work
  • [16:43:01] <mdp> take a look at http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/man/i2cdump
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  • [16:43:19] <mdp> if you want to write something in C to drive it from userspace I can recommend libsoc
  • [16:43:58] <mdp> https://github.com/jackmitch/libsoc/
  • [16:45:10] <adugenske> mdp: I'm using node (i.e. javascript). They just added i2c to the code base.
  • [16:45:32] <mdp> noooooo!!! ;)
  • [16:45:41] <mdp> lost another one to node :(
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  • [16:46:23] <adugenske> mdp: Sorry, I just like the higher level constructs for http etc.
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  • [16:48:13] <mdp> understood, I use Go for that stuff
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  • [16:49:45] <adugenske> mdp: I'm running i2cdump -y 1 0x40 w and receiving all XXX. Is this to be expected?
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  • [16:50:26] <mdp> it depends on the part, there are many protocols
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  • [16:51:19] <adugenske> mdp: I'm using this: https://www.adafruit.com/products/1899
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  • [16:54:33] <adugenske> mdp: I owe you a beer. Where are you located?
  • [16:55:01] <mdp> adugenske: np, I'm too far from most people here in almost rural ohio ;)
  • [16:55:26] <mdp> adugenske: so you probably want to do i2cdump -y 1 0x40 b to start
  • [16:56:08] <mdp> and I'd need to look further at that datasheet, but I believe you need to send specific commands to read anything, like most parts
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  • [16:56:32] <adugenske> mdp: Running it and receiving XX for all entries.
  • [16:56:59] <adugenske> mdp: Can you send commands via the command line?
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  • [16:58:32] <Peanut> adugenske: depends on the I2C device. i2cread can only do up to 2 bytes, I ended up writing a minimal C program to read out and then program an I2C device (http://www.adafruit.com/products/935) Well, actually, I'm using the chip by itself without the Adafruit module.
  • [17:00:01] <adugenske> Peanut: Wow, we're going after the https://www.adafruit.com/products/1083. Can you provide any tips?
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  • [17:10:21] <jkridner> hi #beagle. I've missed you.
  • [17:10:35] <Peanut> We missed you too.
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  • [17:13:29] <jkridner> back home in Michigan
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  • [17:18:02] <mdp> adugenske: i2cget 1 0x40 0xe7 c
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  • [17:30:28] <mdp> adugenske: that should read the user register and return 0x01, the default value.
  • [17:31:21] <Laurenceb> Value at address 0x44E10A34 (0xb6f11a34): 0x20
  • [17:31:22] <Laurenceb> Written 0x27; readback 0x20
  • [17:31:27] <Laurenceb> why dont the bits change?
  • [17:31:34] <Laurenceb> with devmem2
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  • [17:35:03] <mdp> because you aren't in supervisor mode when whacking stuff from /dev/mem and the control module is privileged
  • [17:35:14] <Laurenceb> ah
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  • [17:36:32] <mdp> Laurenceb: what did KotH tell you about using /dev/mem? ;)
  • [17:36:38] <Laurenceb> lol
  • [17:36:47] <Laurenceb> guess its time for some more board modes
  • [17:36:49] <Laurenceb> *mods
  • [17:37:01] <Laurenceb> i need to power cycle the usb
  • [17:37:06] <mdp> this is a path that leads only to despair
  • [17:37:15] <Laurenceb> i was going to swap the pin into gpio mode
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  • [17:37:29] <Laurenceb> is there want way to get supervisor mode?
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  • [17:41:04] <KaaK> can anyone point me in the right direction in the TRM for the GPIO memory maps? I'm attempting to decipher the DTS regs for the pinctl modules to deepen my understanding of how it all ties together
  • [17:41:23] <_av500_> Laurenceb: NO
  • [17:41:30] <_av500_> Laurenceb: no
  • [17:41:34] <Laurenceb> lol
  • [17:41:38] <_av500_> well, yes, in the kernel
  • [17:41:51] <Laurenceb> nah im not recompiling
  • [17:41:52] <KaaK> I've found the base address for each of the 4 GPIO controlers, but cant find out how each pins configuration is managed in this memory region
  • [17:41:57] <Laurenceb> time for board mods
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  • [17:44:43] <Laurenceb> KaaK: technical refernece manual
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  • [17:45:35] <KaaK> Laurenceb, already have it up -- can you point me to a specific section? or even a chapter
  • [17:45:48] <GJN_> Hey Kaak
  • [17:46:07] <GJN_> You were doing cellular development right?
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  • [17:47:22] <mdp> Laurenceb: 1) write kernel module to whack the register and insmod it 2) run kernel with capemanager/overlays and insert dto that has the pinmuxing and let the kernel write the values 3) update your .dts file with proper pinmuxing, compile to to dtb, replace original, and reboot. any will work.
  • [17:47:40] <Laurenceb> oh
  • [17:47:45] <Laurenceb> thats pretty cool
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  • [17:48:23] <Laurenceb> why do i need the dto stuff?
  • [17:48:37] <Laurenceb> as its using gpio3_13, which isnt on a pin header
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  • [17:49:40] <mdp> you don't need it, there are three options above
  • [17:50:10] <mdp> or even 4) if the default pinmux on powerup is what you need then no need to do anything
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  • [17:50:34] <Laurenceb> wait
  • [17:50:42] <Laurenceb> pinmux is in the control register?
  • [17:50:57] <Laurenceb> i mean module
  • [17:51:14] <mdp> yes
  • [17:51:18] <Laurenceb> oh
  • [17:51:46] <Laurenceb> i think i can do this with a custom "cape"
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  • [17:52:01] <Laurenceb> just pinmux gpio3_13 to gpio and set it low
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  • [17:55:24] <mdp> right, that's #2 or #3
  • [17:56:23] <Laurenceb> ok, writing dts file
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  • [18:02:40] <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/9683788
  • [18:02:44] <Laurenceb> is that ok?
  • [18:02:56] <Laurenceb> i was to write 0x27 at offset 0xA34
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  • [18:08:12] <Laurenceb> it loads ok, but register is unchanged
  • [18:10:01] <mdp> 0x234 is the offset for conf_usb1_drvvbus
  • [18:10:08] <Laurenceb> arg wtf
  • [18:10:10] <mdp> 0x800 is the base from which the offsets are supplied
  • [18:10:12] <Laurenceb> oh
  • [18:10:15] <Laurenceb> lol
  • [18:10:27] <Laurenceb> thanks for spotting
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  • [18:11:45] <Laurenceb> register still unchanged :-/
  • [18:15:06] <mdp> perhaps a problem with capemanager not engaging it..dunno, not a cape manager user
  • [18:16:17] <Laurenceb> maybe i need more than one fragment?
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  • [18:17:19] <mdp> grep a34 /sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl/44e10800.pinmux/pins
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  • [18:18:14] <mdp> don't trust a read from a privileged register via devmem2...only from the pinctrl driver
  • [18:18:17] <Laurenceb> pin 141 (44e10a34) 00000020 pinctrl-single
  • [18:18:18] <Laurenceb> oh
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  • [18:19:04] <mdp> ok, so that confirms that it wasn't activated
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  • [18:19:31] <Laurenceb> do i need to reboot?
  • [18:20:01] <Laurenceb> i see my "cape" in /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots
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  • [18:22:47] <mdp> I think you need the bone-pinmux-helper fragment as well..from memory
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  • [18:23:09] <Laurenceb> ok
  • [18:23:23] <mdp> I think you'll find examples on google of this
  • [18:24:11] <Laurenceb> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16872763/configuring-pins-mode-beaglebone
  • [18:24:17] <Laurenceb> ok ill try modifying that
  • [18:25:15] <mdp> yep, derek's example is what I was thinking of
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  • [18:27:46] <Laurenceb> [12471.274408] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.9: slot #10: Applied #1 overlays.
  • [18:27:50] <Laurenceb> but no change :-/
  • [18:30:29] <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/9683849
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  • [18:49:53] <adugenske> mdp the i2cget returns 0x02. What does this mean?
  • [18:50:26] <mdp> that looks promising..but not what I expected from the datasheet.
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  • [18:50:35] <mdp> you should get that datasheet in front of you to make this thing work
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  • [18:50:51] <mdp> https://www.adafruit.com/datasheets/1899_HTU21D.pdf
  • [18:51:22] <mdp> wait!
  • [18:51:26] <mdp> I misread it ;)
  • [18:51:41] <mdp> because it's the worst register doc I've ever seen in my life..good grief
  • [18:51:43] <mdp> page 13
  • [18:51:47] <mdp> 0x02 is correct
  • [18:51:55] <mdp> only bit 1 is asserted
  • [18:52:22] <mdp> so it works...congrats, your i2c interfacing was a success ;)
  • [18:52:40] <adugenske> mdp: Thanks for your help!
  • [18:53:34] <adugenske> Where did you find 0xe7 in the pdf?
  • [18:54:45] <mdp> look closely at those datasheet examples of how to access registers..they explain in great detail what the process is a accessing a typical i2c device register (most devices work in this fashion)...i2cget in 'c' mode does an smbus read with is a byte write (of the register offset) followed by a byte read of the contents.
  • [18:55:28] <mdp> page 10-11 explains the access model and has a table of the register addresses
  • [18:56:09] <mdp> page 13 details that user register that I thought would be a good test to verify that you are reading from the device properly...as 0x02 is a known value it should return...unless you've written something into it after powerup
  • [18:57:17] <adugenske> mdp it looks like sending 0xF3 will trigger a temp meas and then it can be read with 0xe7
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  • [19:01:22] <mdp> yes, but you don't read the result from 0xe7
  • [19:01:33] <mdp> you simply read 3 bytes
  • [19:01:39] <mdp> msb,lsb,csum
  • [19:01:50] <mdp> after issuing the trigger command
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  • [19:04:15] <adugenske> mdp Entered: 2cget 1 0x40 0xe3 c, Received: 0x66. How does this map to msb, lsb &csum.
  • [19:05:33] <ds2> mdp: you're back!?!
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  • [19:08:44] <draig> I just got a beagleboard black
  • [19:09:53] <draig> Once I flash Debian to the sd will I be able to use it standalone?
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  • [19:10:43] <draig> I tried hooking it up via hdmi out of the box but it didn't seem to output anything
  • [19:10:59] <adugenske> mdp: I placed my figure on the sensor, and the response changed from 0x66 to 0x6d. Seems like it is working.
  • [19:11:55] <mdp> the only problem with that is that you did a write to trigger (0xe3) then just a single byte read so you only go the most significant byte
  • [19:12:00] <mdp> s/go/got/
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  • [19:12:30] <mdp> ideally you'd do an i2cset 1 0x40 0xe3 b
  • [19:12:49] <jimmyhoughjr> should a beaglebone black output hdmi out of the box?
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  • [19:13:35] <mdp> then an i2cdump of 3 bytes
  • [19:14:20] <mdp> or maybe you can do two i2cget byte reads..I 'm not sure if the devices wants the 3 bytes read in a single transfer or not
  • [19:14:26] <mdp> adugenske: you'll have to play with that.
  • [19:14:44] <mdp> adugenske: but yeah, sounds like you are reading the MSB of that data
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  • [19:21:06] <adugenske> mdp I entered i2cset 1 0x40 0xe3 1 b, then i2cdump -y 1 0x40 b and waiting for it to paint the screen
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  • [19:21:54] <adugenske> mdp is there a more direct way to get MSB, LSB csum?
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  • [21:52:53] <robert___> *wheezy
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  • [21:53:48] <robert___> hello fellow vodafone nz customer
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