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  • [00:16:16] <agmlego> Does xrandr work on the bone, I wonder?
  • [00:17:33] <hxla> nope, I've tried
  • [00:17:38] <hxla> at least not on debian
  • [00:18:03] <hxla> it just shows the current resolution as minimum and maximum
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  • [00:42:29] <jpfau> hxla: I highly doubt it. You'd have to resize the framebuffer, which I don't know if Linux can do
  • [00:43:15] <veremit> you can specify the framebuffer on the kernel command-line
  • [00:43:23] <veremit> but I don't know of any way of dynamically changing it
  • [00:43:35] <veremit> unless you've got an X session .. and you -could- use xrandr
  • [00:44:05] <hxla> I'm in a X session, but xrandr won't give me any other resolution to use
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  • [00:44:09] <veremit> omapfb.<option> = blah
  • [00:44:56] <veremit> hxla .. you can specify xrandr x by y res.
  • [00:45:41] <veremit> eg. xrandr -s 800x600
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  • [00:46:02] <veremit> although it may refuse to change still :)
  • [00:47:07] <hxla> veremit: any resolution I pass, it says that it's not found in available modes
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  • [00:47:45] <hxla> when I just run xrandr, the first message it's that it failed to get size of gamma for output default, then it shows the current resolution
  • [00:48:28] <veremit> what display have you got connected?
  • [00:50:00] <hxla> I'm using a samsumg 2033M
  • [00:50:12] <veremit> monitor?
  • [00:50:18] <hxla> tv and monitor
  • [00:50:27] <veremit> ah
  • [00:50:30] <hxla> it has the antenna plug and vga/dvi/hdmi
  • [00:50:43] <veremit> its probably not getting the modes from it correctly
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  • [00:51:53] <hxla> is there a way that I could make it recognize the available resolutions?
  • [00:52:08] <veremit> might be worth examining your Xorg.0.log and possibly enabling more debug from the graphics driver
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  • [00:56:03] <hxla> veremit: I'm seeing a lot of FBDEV(0): F8IOUTPUTCMAP: Invalid argument on xorg logs
  • [00:57:03] <hxla> DPI is set to 96 and depth to 16 :(
  • [00:57:50] <veremit> I'd suspect if its a TV .. the modes it has might be non-standard and the beagle is trying to find some compromise
  • [00:57:58] <hxla> I'm also using and micro hdmi - hdmi adapter, not sure if that could make things worse
  • [00:58:10] <veremit> if you can work out all the data it needs, and put it manually in xorg.conf might find that better
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  • [01:00:22] <veremit> you wll probably find its not got enough graphics ram allocated for very high resolutions though
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  • [01:01:01] <lunarpulse> hi dear experts
  • [01:01:03] <hxla> yep, I was checking it with raspberry
  • [01:01:14] <lunarpulse> I am trying to connect my beaglebone to the internet.
  • [01:01:16] <veremit> compare configs
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  • [01:02:01] <lunarpulse> pinging 8.8.8.8 shows host unreachable
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  • [01:02:31] <lunarpulse> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr d0:39:72:4a:23:43 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) Interrupt:40
  • [01:02:43] <veremit> no IP address ..
  • [01:03:35] <lunarpulse> connecting to the wire
  • [01:03:36] <veremit> ie. networking isn't configured .. do you have a network cable plugged into a router/network capable of DHCP?
  • [01:03:55] <lunarpulse> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr d0:39:72:4a:23:43 inet6 addr: fe80::d239:72ff:fe4a:2343/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:780 (780.0 B) TX bytes:3143 (3.1 KB) Interrupt:40
  • [01:04:24] <veremit> erm unless thats supposed to be ipv6 and then I'm lost.
  • [01:04:56] <agmlego> Nah, that is a link-local address.
  • [01:04:58] <agmlego> Not routable.
  • [01:05:10] <lunarpulse> link local address?
  • [01:05:21] <lunarpulse> i will post the entire ifconfig
  • [01:05:23] <veremit> ah like a 169.xxx
  • [01:05:29] <veremit> pastebin/etc pls
  • [01:05:36] <lunarpulse> does usb0 affect the routing?
  • [01:05:51] <veremit> type 'route' and find out :)
  • [01:06:14] <lunarpulse> root@arm:/home/ubuntu# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr d0:39:72:4a:23:43 inet6 addr: fe80::d239:72ff:fe4a:2343/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:780 (780.0 B) TX bytes:3143 (3.1 KB)
  • [01:06:18] <veremit> check your /etc/resolv.conf too
  • [01:06:26] <lunarpulse> okay
  • [01:06:38] <hxla> veremit: I'll try with another tv/monitor and see if I have different results, will try to find about the current monitor I'm using
  • [01:06:41] <veremit> although that'll only take care of dns resolution
  • [01:06:47] <lunarpulse> root@arm:/home/ubuntu# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.7.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.252 U 0 0 0 usb0 root@arm:/home/ubuntu#
  • [01:07:29] <hxla> lunarpulse: are you using the beagle connected in your pc via usb?
  • [01:07:30] <veremit> hxla .. it will do a certain amount of auto-detection .. but if its odd .. it will likely find some default
  • [01:07:34] <lunarpulse> yes
  • [01:07:55] <lunarpulse> it is connected to pc at the moment
  • [01:07:56] <veremit> looks like usb0 isn't up then ..
  • [01:08:05] * veremit mutters drivers
  • [01:08:14] <hxla> lunarpulse: are you using and ethernet cable on bbb?
  • [01:08:34] <hxla> otherwise you'll have to route through your pc network
  • [01:08:35] <lunarpulse> should I run it interdependently?
  • [01:09:16] <lunarpulse> yes wireless internet ->pc <-> BBB <-wire
  • [01:09:28] <hxla> veremit: I see, will check it with some other monitors
  • [01:09:54] <hxla> lunarpulse: you probably need to install the drivers to your OS to be able to route your network to bbb
  • [01:10:24] <lunarpulse> I think I did it when I browse "get started" section.
  • [01:10:45] <lunarpulse> I will just install the BBB driver pack again
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  • [01:12:17] <lunarpulse> hxla: installed all drivers again
  • [01:12:39] <hxla> I haven't use BBB in this scenario yet, and I'm not aware of which OS are you using in your pc
  • [01:13:06] <hxla> but you need to configure the routing options to allow the BBB to access internet
  • [01:13:24] <lunarpulse> if you use it independently, how do you configure the network setting?
  • [01:13:47] <lunarpulse> hxla: could you explain it in detail?
  • [01:14:09] <hxla> it will automatically try to get an IP address from the dhcp server in your network, probably your wireless router
  • [01:14:10] <lunarpulse> routing options to access the internet?
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  • [01:14:41] <lunarpulse> hxla: when I leave as it is as "dhcp
  • [01:14:57] <hxla> if you use a ethernet cable in BBB, it will try to get an IP from dhcp
  • [01:15:14] <lunarpulse> hxla: BBB struggles to receive IP from dhcp..
  • [01:15:31] <veremit> not normally
  • [01:15:41] <lunarpulse> when I connect it with static IP then it connects, but still no access to the internet.
  • [01:15:43] <veremit> mine's always got it 1st time
  • [01:15:54] <veremit> yea thre's still a connection issue then
  • [01:16:08] <lunarpulse> it only can ping 192.168.7.2 but not other IPs
  • [01:16:12] <veremit> dhcp is a fairly good test
  • [01:16:21] <veremit> well thats its local ip
  • [01:16:28] <lunarpulse> not even the router gateway, 192.168.0.1
  • [01:16:28] <veremit> for usb networking
  • [01:16:37] <hxla> haven't you reached the maximum dhcp address of your router? some come with just 10 address by default
  • [01:17:09] <lunarpulse> netgear router and at the moment 7 devices are connected.
  • [01:17:10] <hxla> well, you will only get an ip from dhcp if you add an ethernet cable to bbb
  • [01:17:20] <lunarpulse> so BBB is 9th.
  • [01:17:42] <lunarpulse> probably.
  • [01:17:43] <veremit> cable from router -> bbb
  • [01:17:49] <lunarpulse> I wiyes
  • [01:17:57] <lunarpulse> yes . it is connected like that
  • [01:18:06] <hxla> try that, dhcp eth0
  • [01:18:15] <hxla> and check if eth0 will get an ip
  • [01:18:21] <lunarpulse> it gets.
  • [01:18:37] <lunarpulse> ip from router when set to dhcp
  • [01:18:48] <lunarpulse> but some reason ip address is 1pv6
  • [01:18:51] <hxla> and now, if you try to access the network?
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  • [01:18:59] <hxla> ipv6?
  • [01:19:10] <lunarpulse> yes
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  • [01:19:20] <hxla> hmm.. can't see why
  • [01:19:31] <lunarpulse> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr d0:39:72:4a:23:43 inet6 addr: fe80::d239:72ff:fe4a:2343/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:329 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:81496 (81.4 KB) TX bytes:17507 (17.5 KB) Interrupt:40
  • [01:19:44] <lunarpulse> this is from the report of ifconfig
  • [01:20:53] <lunarpulse> If you have connect BBB to the internet, not via pc, could you tell me? the procedures?
  • [01:21:19] <hxla> well.. mine is connected directly to the router, to a keyboard/mouse and monitor
  • [01:21:23] <lunarpulse> I can set up a monitor and connect BBB to the monitor and a keyboard.
  • [01:21:24] <agmlego> lunarpulse: Do you have a Windows machine on your network?
  • [01:21:36] <lunarpulse> windows machine?
  • [01:21:40] <hxla> it got the ip from the dhcp and it worked just fine
  • [01:21:43] <lunarpulse> I will set up as you did hxla
  • [01:21:46] <agmlego> As in, a computer running WIndows.
  • [01:21:59] <agmlego> WHich is an operating system written by and sold by Microsoft.
  • [01:22:50] <veremit> >,<
  • [01:23:17] <lunarpulse> agmlego: yes the laptop I am using now is a windows based one.
  • [01:23:35] <agmlego> Because, if you have a machine running any version of Windows newer than XP, it has enabled by default an IPv6-to-IPv4 tunnel, and hands out IPv6 addresses.
  • [01:23:56] <veremit> not aware windows has a dhcp server ...
  • [01:23:58] <agmlego> WHich is probably where the IPv6 address is coming from, and can be safely ignored.
  • [01:24:03] <agmlego> veremit: Look up Teredo.
  • [01:24:10] <veremit> you have to install the linux one :)
  • [01:24:14] <agmlego> veremit: Also, IPv6 is rarely assigned by DHCP.
  • [01:24:31] <veremit> not currently agmlego... no
  • [01:24:37] <agmlego> That is kind of not how IPv6 is designed to work.
  • [01:24:39] <lunarpulse> hxla: so, no need of change any network setting to connect to the internet?
  • [01:24:48] <hxla> agmlego: but if the eth0 is connected directly to the router, how would windows assign an ip to this interface?
  • [01:25:06] <hxla> lunarpulse: if it does get a working IP, nope
  • [01:25:11] <agmlego> hxla: Does the router have a switch in it?
  • [01:25:32] <agmlego> A hint: if the router has more than a WAN port and a LAN port, it has a switch in it.
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  • [01:26:19] <lunarpulse> agmlego: netgear adsl2 modem router
  • [01:26:42] <lunarpulse> the router only has 1 wan port
  • [01:26:43] <hxla> well, yes but, windows dhcp server would need to override the router's dhcp server
  • [01:26:57] <lunarpulse> I assume this does not have a switch in it
  • [01:27:40] <lunarpulse> my BBB is connected directly to the router, to a keyboard/mouse and monitor
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  • [01:28:35] <agmlego> hxla: Teredo is not DHCP.
  • [01:28:43] <agmlego> hxla: IPv6 rarely works via DHCP.
  • [01:29:08] <agmlego> lunarpulse: One WAN port, probably four LAN ports.
  • [01:29:17] <lunarpulse> although it is directly connected to a router with a monitor and keyboard, still [ifconfig] returns ipv6 address.
  • [01:29:36] <veremit> what does "ifconfig -a" return?
  • [01:29:40] <agmlego> The four ports are a five-port switch, with the fifth port connected to the CPU via traces.
  • [01:29:48] <lunarpulse> agmlego: yes. one wan , four lan ports
  • [01:30:23] <lunarpulse> ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr d0:39:72:4a:23:43 inet6 addr: fe80::d239:72ff:fe4a:2343/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:17 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:780 (780.0 B) TX bytes:3143 (3.1 KB) Interrupt:40
  • [01:30:29] <agmlego> hxla: See? Windows machine is runnign Teredo and offering IPv6 addresses, which route nowhere because WIndows is defective by design.
  • [01:30:57] <lunarpulse> I just typed what the ifconfig tells
  • [01:31:41] <lunarpulse> hxla: I am just curious what kind of ip address your BBB gets automatically
  • [01:31:50] <hxla> agmlego: I'm checking what does teredo do... have never got this issue while having windows on the network
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  • [01:32:08] <hxla> lunarpulse: it gets a valid ipv4 address from my network
  • [01:32:13] <veremit> what is your PC's IP address? what shows in your network properties?
  • [01:32:49] <lunarpulse> hxla: so the router setting could have prevented BBB getting a valid address?
  • [01:33:29] <lunarpulse> Connection-specific DNS Suffix: Description: Intel(R) Centrino(R) Wireless-N 2230 Physical Address: ‎60-6C-66-B7-6D-0D DHCP Enabled: Yes IPv4 Address: 192.168.0.4 IPv4 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Lease Obtained: Sunday, 26 October 2014 11:38:45 PM Lease Expires: Wednesday, 29 October 2014 9:17:38 AM IPv4 Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1 IPv4 DHCP Server: 192.168.0.1 IPv4 DNS Server: 192.168.0.1 IPv4 WINS Server: NetBIOS over Tcpi
  • [01:33:31] <veremit> shut the PC down .. power up the beagle on the cable .. start the PC up
  • [01:34:28] <lunarpulse> veremit: so Windows OS PC can affect BBB?
  • [01:34:43] <veremit> depends what ya got running on it
  • [01:35:09] <lunarpulse> depends what I am running?
  • [01:35:26] <veremit> its sounds like something is interfereing with the normal network configuration
  • [01:35:36] <lunarpulse> true...
  • [01:36:08] <lunarpulse> so everyone here could connect BBB to the internet just out of box?
  • [01:36:23] <veremit> I did
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  • [01:37:05] <lunarpulse> veremit: Is your router a special one? not like a normal home router with modem?
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  • [01:37:21] <veremit> I've got a zytel thingy
  • [01:37:25] <hxla> I also did, out of box
  • [01:37:32] <veremit> but its connected to a d-link box wirelessly
  • [01:37:34] <lunarpulse> um....
  • [01:37:50] <veremit> it used to directly connect to my 3g router
  • [01:37:58] <lunarpulse> seems like I have been facing a rare case so far..
  • [01:38:16] <veremit> its currently online .. I believe its running my irc bots still ..
  • [01:38:58] <veremit> yup check #veremit
  • [01:39:00] <lunarpulse> do you think if I change the IP address manually, would it work?
  • [01:39:42] <veremit> you have to set your default gateway too
  • [01:39:53] <veremit> otherwise it doesn't know where to 'look'
  • [01:39:54] <lunarpulse> how do I set it?
  • [01:40:08] <lunarpulse> is gateway the router's address?
  • [01:40:12] * veremit scrolls a moment
  • [01:40:14] <veremit> yes
  • [01:40:18] <lunarpulse> which is 192.168.0.1?
  • [01:40:22] <veremit> right
  • [01:40:27] <lunarpulse> okay
  • [01:40:35] <lunarpulse> I will set it now.
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  • [01:40:40] <lunarpulse> how can I set it?
  • [01:40:53] <lunarpulse> could you give me some commands for that?
  • [01:41:02] <veremit> route add default gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth0
  • [01:41:08] <veremit> -should- work
  • [01:42:07] <hxla> you could also configure /etc/network/interfaces
  • [01:42:31] <hxla> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
  • [01:42:47] <hxla> so it won't loose configuration upon reboot
  • [01:43:01] <lunarpulse> SIOCADDRT network unreachable
  • [01:43:45] <lunarpulse> thanks
  • [01:44:12] <lunarpulse> but I got this error message on changing the gateway address
  • [01:46:38] <veremit> yea because your network config is broken lol
  • [01:48:30] <lunarpulse> veremit: How can I fix it?
  • [01:50:56] <veremit> its hard to know whats Wrong right now
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  • [03:51:53] <rao_> I need a little help regarding BBB
  • [03:52:39] <rao_> is there any light desktop for installing on ubuntu on BBB except LXDE?
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  • [04:00:43] <jpfau> you can use blackbox or fluxbox
  • [04:00:52] <jpfau> those are pretty light, although they're barely a desktop
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  • [05:36:11] <psk> hi
  • [05:36:31] <psk> dear sir i am trting to compile the kernel
  • [05:36:49] <psk> and following these steps
  • [05:37:03] <psk> http://elinux.org/Building_BBB_Kernel
  • [05:37:24] <psk> but after execute this command i got an error
  • [05:37:35] <psk> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnu- uImage-dtb.am335x-boneblack gives me error saying "No rule to make target"
  • [05:37:39] <psk> plz help me
  • [05:38:09] <psk> ??
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  • [05:44:20] <psk_> hi
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  • [05:54:53] <rao_> @jpfau...i tried to install blackbox and fluxbox but they are not working..nothing is appearing on the screen
  • [05:55:53] <jpfau> rao_: You need to start them. Did you add them to your xinitrc or trying to run them from an xterm while an X session is running?
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  • [06:19:19] <rao_> i didnt understand about it..can you please tell me or direct me to any link?
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  • [06:20:27] <rao_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession---> can i follow this link?
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  • [06:21:52] <rao_> @jpfau...Sir...Can you guide me about this.?
  • [06:22:57] <jpfau> rao_: see how at the end of this file, it says "exec openbox"? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession#Sample_.2BAH4ALw.xinitrc_File
  • [06:23:31] <jpfau> you can make a simple xinitrc that just has the top line and that bottom line, but replace openbox with fluxbox or blackbox, or whichever you have installed
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  • [06:27:15] <rao_> sorry for one more stupid question...but the first line is xcompmgr -fF -I-.002 -O-.003 -D1 &? or export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome
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  • [06:32:54] <rao_> #!/usr/bin/env bash-------> this is the first line
  • [06:33:01] <rao_> and then exec fluxbox
  • [06:33:50] <jpfau> yes
  • [06:34:10] <jpfau> the #!/usr/bin/env bash line was what I meant by the first line
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  • [06:49:32] <rao_> @jpfau...its working perfectly..but my real problem still not solved...actually before fluxbox/blackbox i was running LXDE....and i cross compiled the QT-5.2 libraries...but when i am executing the application..it don't show any window
  • [06:49:39] <rao_> can you tell me about this?
  • [06:49:56] <jpfau> does it give you any sort of errors?
  • [06:50:27] <rao_> and when i tried to run the Qt application without any desktop enviornment (console only)..it worked but then i can not use the scree..i need to use it with SSH
  • [06:50:52] <rao_> yeah for LXDE it said...failed to set graphics mode inappropriate ioctl for device
  • [06:51:19] <rao_> but now for fluxbox and blackbox it is not saying anything...i can see he program is executed but i can not see any output
  • [06:51:46] <jpfau> hmm, sounds like it's trying to do something that isn't supported by the BBB, maybe something fancy with graphics, idk
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  • [06:52:45] <rao_> no...i m just executing a simple analog clock application
  • [06:53:28] <jpfau> Sorry, I don't know how to help beyond what I've already said
  • [06:53:33] <rao_> without any desktop enviornment, it showed the analog clock but then i can not use the screen.i need to use SSH
  • [06:53:48] <rao_> oh...okay ...really appreciate your help
  • [06:54:00] <rao_> learned a new thing from you
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  • [07:10:00] <MK_FG> rao_, You need to start a graphical app from ssh console?
  • [07:10:27] <MK_FG> (just wondering what "i can not use the screen.i need to use SSH" means)
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  • [07:45:12] <rao_> @MK_FG, i mean when i execute the QT graphical application from the terminal. then the screen hangs and i can not move mouse or even use the keyboard...then i use SSH to kill the application. But after killing application from SSH, i can not use keyboard and mouse again on the scree. So i need to use the SSH for interacting with the BBB. Or i need to restart the BBB for direct interaction.
  • [07:48:07] <tbr> sounds like you're doing something wrong then
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  • [07:49:18] <tbr> are you starting the Qt apps as X11 apps or running them on the framebuffer?
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  • [08:01:15] <tasslehoff> Anyone know stuff about https://github.com/rvfh/meta-ti/blob/master/recipes-kernel/linux/linux-mainline-3.2/beagle/0011-default-to-fifo-mode-5-for-old-musb-beagles.patch
  • [08:02:02] <tasslehoff> switched from fifo_mode 2 to fifo_mode 4 a while ago, but now it seems that 4 is bad as well
  • [08:08:10] <rao_> @br..i have no idea about this thing..frambuffer and X11
  • [08:08:23] <rao_> can you tell me about it something
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  • [08:25:33] <Rotti> hi
  • [08:25:39] <av500> lo
  • [08:30:53] <KotH> Z
  • [08:32:01] <rao_> @tbr..i studied about it and I am writing the application directly to the framebuffer using -platform linuxfb plugin as QT-5.2 doesn't support eglfs plugin. and eglfs supports X11
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  • [08:34:39] <tbr> rao_: well if you bypass the x-server, no wonder that things go haywire
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  • [08:36:55] <rao_> any solution to this?
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  • [08:40:09] <tbr> yes, be consistent in what you do
  • [08:40:23] <tbr> either go framebuffer or use Xorg
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  • [08:41:32] <krsheshu> quite a newbie here also with BBB, have a question regarding a problem faced with spidev with slow transfer rates with single byte transfers with SPI.
  • [08:42:59] <KotH> what is "slow"?
  • [08:43:16] <krsheshu> SPI is running at 16MHz on BBB, where byte transfer takes around 2-3 mS which is considerably large to drive an adafruit LCD
  • [08:43:47] <av500> then transfer more than one byte at a time
  • [08:43:55] <krsheshu> tried burst transfers with nearly 3000 bytes at once which is very fast
  • [08:44:05] <av500> there you have it
  • [08:44:13] <krsheshu> i need byte mode as the pixels to write are adressed
  • [08:44:29] <av500> write a whole line at a time
  • [08:44:49] <Laurenceb__> anyone here today who knows about usb host?
  • [08:44:58] <av500> I know the words
  • [08:45:05] <Laurenceb__> im trying to understand the problems a little more
  • [08:45:08] <av500> ask, dont ask to ask
  • [08:45:23] <Laurenceb__> are they related to filtering capacitor and/or electrical noise?
  • [08:45:46] <Laurenceb__> im thinking of try some experiments today with 3.8.13 kernel
  • [08:46:06] <krsheshu> the thing is i want to use AdafruitGFX libraries and Adafruit LCD modules and dont want to modify the underlying code
  • [08:46:21] <Laurenceb__> 3.17.1 kernel fixes all usb host issues for me
  • [08:46:27] <Laurenceb__> but no capemanager
  • [08:46:44] <krsheshu> but why should a byte write takes 3 mS...? at 16MHz clock for SPI?
  • [08:46:51] <Laurenceb__> how long before capemanager comes to 3.8.13?
  • [08:47:30] <Laurenceb__> *3.17.1
  • [08:48:13] <rao_> but for QT only three plugins are available...linufx, minimal and offscree,
  • [08:49:11] <krsheshu> av500: thank you for the reply, but the question is is it BBB related or arm related.. or am I doing something wrong here..?
  • [08:51:22] <krsheshu> i used example code spidev_test.c from https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/spi/spidev_test.c (not Quad SPI but an older version)
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  • [08:55:24] <krsheshu> The idea is to port Adafruit 2.2" LCD display ILI9340 to BBB (didn't see if someone already did it) using all the Adafruit LCD libs & graphics libs already available
  • [08:56:10] <krsheshu> with only minor modifications so that it can be readily used by anyone
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  • [08:58:25] <krsheshu> anyone faced a similiar problem with SPI 'single byte' write taking nearly 3mS...(>8MHz SPi clock) any suggestions for improvement would be great...
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  • [09:03:53] <av500> krsheshu: I guess it is the latency of making a single syscall and then setting up a single SPI transfer in the kernel
  • [09:04:04] <av500> again, why single byte writes?
  • [09:04:20] <av500> why not make writes to a backing buffer and then write that out fast?
  • [09:05:02] <KotH> krsheshu: just for reference: a fast syscal takes about 10-20us, an average syscal is somewhere in the 100-200us region
  • [09:05:40] <KotH> krsheshu: and this is just to get into the kernel, not doing much work
  • [09:06:04] <KotH> krsheshu: any locks taken or memory access increase this many fold
  • [09:16:57] <krsheshu> av500: it looks like if i do that way i need to modify the existing modules (which I dont want to take the pain, if there is an easy way)
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  • [09:18:39] <krsheshu> av500: writing single line once will also change the way how the animations are currently made in the LCD.. thats the issue
  • [09:21:00] <av500> ?
  • [09:22:11] <krsheshu> KotH: do you mean a single ioctl call ? or something below this layer? (im not very experienced in internals to be frank)
  • [09:22:58] <av500> yes
  • [09:23:04] <av500> ioctl == syscall
  • [09:24:01] <krsheshu> av500: thank you. so that means if i make a fast syscal i should get around 20us ? i use onyl one ioctl call
  • [09:24:09] <KotH> lol
  • [09:24:15] <KotH> you cannot choose how fast your syscall is
  • [09:24:23] <krsheshu> :)
  • [09:24:29] <av500> syscall(....., DO_IT_FAST);
  • [09:24:44] <KotH> +1
  • [09:25:10] <krsheshu> its controlled by kernel or ? can i set some priorities or something?
  • [09:25:16] <av500> no
  • [09:25:32] <av500> I would say, you cannot go much further from here without diving into the kernel
  • [09:25:37] <av500> into the spi driver
  • [09:25:45] <av500> adding some debug to see where time is spent
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  • [09:25:55] <av500> maybe there is a way to reduce the latency
  • [09:25:56] <woglinde> learn to profile
  • [09:25:58] <KotH> well... to make syscalls faster, you need to rewrite low level portions of the kernel
  • [09:26:08] <av500> its not the syscall
  • [09:26:10] <woglinde> its not this hard
  • [09:26:11] <KotH> i think rewriting arduino code is faster
  • [09:26:12] <av500> its the SPI driver
  • [09:26:18] <KotH> av500: that too
  • [09:26:52] <av500> basically, you can start having fun
  • [09:27:06] <krsheshu> haha
  • [09:30:28] <krsheshu> i think the spi LCDs are meant to be controlled from RTOSes, which I may have missed...
  • [09:30:36] <av500> nonsense
  • [09:30:44] <av500> SPI LCDs are controlled fine by any OS
  • [09:31:26] <LetoThe2nd> and, aren't there lots of showcases by now driving a spi lcd?
  • [09:31:36] <LetoThe2nd> IIRC even playing videa
  • [09:31:43] <LetoThe2nd> *video
  • [09:32:57] <LetoThe2nd> so why reinvent everything?
  • [09:32:57] <mdp> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C4lXej2H_I
  • [09:34:02] <av500> mdp: this video has not been done with putpixel(x,y,color)
  • [09:34:07] <av500> so please stop trolling
  • [09:34:20] <av500> oh, and good morning
  • [09:34:58] <LetoThe2nd> av500: awwwwww :-(
  • [09:35:09] <mdp> understood, we have constraints that are insane here. continue then.
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  • [09:35:58] <LetoThe2nd> mdp: hm, insane constraints or insanity contraints? if the latter, are they positive or negative?
  • [09:36:44] <mdp> lost another customer..we'll never make any money at this :(
  • [09:37:32] <av500> but we kept the moral highground
  • [09:39:25] <LetoThe2nd> does that count as a legal high`?
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  • [09:41:36] <av500> high would I know?
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  • [09:47:46] <KotH> mdp: why are you up so early?
  • [09:47:55] <KotH> mdp: insomnia like mranostay?
  • [09:48:08] <mdp> still a little off from .tw
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  • [10:57:50] <Laurenceb> does the ti kernel support capemanager?
  • [11:01:22] <av500> which one?
  • [11:01:33] <Laurenceb> dunno
  • [11:01:39] <Laurenceb> --ti-kernel
  • [11:01:50] <Laurenceb> in the kernel updater script
  • [11:01:55] <Laurenceb> ill try it anyway :D
  • [11:02:07] <Laurenceb> its not like itll be any worse
  • [11:02:22] <tomba> famous last words
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  • [11:42:34] <Moult> for a hobby project, i'd like to turn my beagleboard into a simple computer with screen and keyboard, but build it all into one case like an old arcade game. i don't want a gui, so it'll ideally just fit an old school 80x24 terminal. i'm new to the hardware scene, but i'd expect i'd need to buy some peripherals to give the board a screen + keyboard. any tips on what to look at first?
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  • [11:47:19] <Laurenceb> wow beaglebone is so broken
  • [11:47:37] <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/9680560
  • [11:47:40] <Laurenceb> what the fuck
  • [11:49:08] <av500> ran out of space?
  • [11:49:15] <Laurenceb> maybe
  • [11:49:15] <av500> Moult: usb for keyboard
  • [11:49:23] <Laurenceb> im trying to remove _everything_
  • [11:49:28] <Laurenceb> but its not going well
  • [11:49:33] <av500> buy an old VT100 for serial terminal
  • [11:49:49] <av500> as said, ignore emmc and use 8GB SD card
  • [11:49:59] <av500> if rpi can, so can you
  • [11:50:03] <Laurenceb> nah
  • [11:50:11] <Laurenceb> it needs to be vibration resistance
  • [11:50:14] <Moult> av500: yep usb seems simple enough for keyboard
  • [11:50:15] <Laurenceb> *resistant
  • [11:50:19] <Moult> av500: what about for screen?
  • [11:50:29] <Laurenceb> Moult: USB is broken too
  • [11:50:34] <av500> Moult: terminal?
  • [11:50:42] <Moult> Laurenceb: ?
  • [11:50:47] <av500> nonsense
  • [11:50:58] <Laurenceb> usb host fails
  • [11:51:16] <Laurenceb> sigh
  • [11:51:34] <Laurenceb> im going to give it until the end of the week then ill literally set this thing on fire
  • [11:51:37] <Moult> av500: yeah don't care about gui, so just terminal would be fine...although configuring font and colours would be nice
  • [11:51:47] <av500> Laurenceb: make sure to make a video of it
  • [11:51:59] <Laurenceb> yup
  • [11:52:02] <av500> Moult: then you need a better term than VT100
  • [11:52:13] <Moult> av500: yeah
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  • [11:52:16] <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/9680565
  • [11:52:18] <Laurenceb> ok wtf
  • [11:52:20] <av500> why not a cheap HDMI monitor?
  • [11:52:25] <Laurenceb> how do i just remove all the shit?!
  • [11:52:25] <Moult> av500: at a minimum i want to enjoy to play nethack :)
  • [11:52:41] <av500> Laurenceb: debian packaging
  • [11:52:45] <av500> I know nothing about it
  • [11:52:56] <Laurenceb> this is the default beaglebone.org flasher, WTF
  • [11:53:06] <Laurenceb> everything is broken, as i said
  • [11:53:21] <Laurenceb> ive yet to get a single BBB to even boot into a usable state
  • [11:53:28] <Laurenceb> after a week of trying full time
  • [11:53:52] <av500> these errors are during flashing?
  • [11:54:01] <Laurenceb> beaglebone.org build has a segfaulting python2.7
  • [11:54:03] <Moult> av500: actually, i might consider a vt100, got any links i can look at?
  • [11:54:08] <av500> ebay?
  • [11:54:20] <Laurenceb> av500: im ssh in and trying to fix python
  • [11:54:28] <av500> ah
  • [11:55:47] <Moult> av500: well, what do i search for? vt100 gives me nothing
  • [11:55:59] <Laurenceb> does apt use python?
  • [11:56:02] <av500> well, you are late by a few decades :)
  • [11:56:08] <Laurenceb> it seems to be segfaulting
  • [11:56:49] <Laurenceb> hmf
  • [11:56:53] <Laurenceb> this is unfixable
  • [11:56:58] <Laurenceb> wtf
  • [11:57:15] <Laurenceb> can someone like my to a image that boots?
  • [11:57:18] <Laurenceb> and works
  • [11:57:23] <Laurenceb> *link me
  • [11:57:35] <tbr> it all depends on the definition of 'working'
  • [11:57:36] <Laurenceb> as i cant even find one :-/
  • [11:57:40] <Laurenceb> python runs
  • [11:57:54] <Laurenceb> as i need python to run the update_kernel.sh script
  • [11:58:03] <Laurenceb> beaglebone.org has broken python
  • [11:58:26] <Moult> av500: surely there are modern simple cheap monitors which are functionally equivalent to a vt100?
  • [11:59:16] <av500> er no
  • [11:59:24] <Laurenceb> this is a classic catch22
  • [11:59:27] <av500> much like steam engines went out of business
  • [11:59:29] <Laurenceb> its impossible to fix
  • [11:59:50] <av500> can you post this on the mailing list?
  • [11:59:57] <Laurenceb> hmm
  • [11:59:58] <tbr> Laurenceb: so you want to change the kernel? that's not necessarily trivial and certainly error prone.
  • [11:59:58] <av500> with exact revision of image used?
  • [12:00:06] <av500> tbr: kernel update should work
  • [12:00:22] <tbr> av500: from 3.8.13-x to x+1, sure :)
  • [12:00:25] <av500> it should not fail due to python
  • [12:00:32] <Laurenceb> Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone50 #1 SMP Tue May 13 13:24:52 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [12:00:45] <Laurenceb> i got the eMMC flasher from beaglebone.org
  • [12:00:51] <Moult> av500: lame, so what should i look at? cheap hdmi monitors?
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  • [12:01:01] <Laurenceb> default python is python2.7, and it segfaults
  • [12:01:27] <av500> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC2.A0.H0.Xserial+terminal&_nkw=serial+terminal&_sacat=0
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  • [12:01:46] <av500> not much indeed
  • [12:02:34] <Laurenceb> ok i have a plan
  • [12:02:41] <Laurenceb> use python2.6
  • [12:02:56] <av500> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=&_osacat=162075&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xterminal&_nkw=terminal&_sacat=162075
  • [12:03:11] <av500> has some
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  • [12:04:00] <hitlin37> hmm...2.7 have been around for so many years. going to 2.6 doesn't make sense. you can better look into the error you are getting
  • [12:04:31] <Laurenceb> wuhaha
  • [12:04:33] <Laurenceb> works
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  • [12:09:01] <Laurenceb> and boots
  • [12:09:08] <Moult> av500: do you know if the latest debian build on the bbb has X preinstalled?
  • [12:09:14] <Laurenceb> no sign of capemanager in the TI kernel :-/
  • [12:09:23] <Laurenceb> is it possible to use the ADC?
  • [12:11:09] <tbr> ask TI?
  • [12:11:22] <tbr> (I'd expect so)
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  • [12:20:06] <Laurenceb> hmm
  • [12:20:23] <Laurenceb> no iio in /sys/bus
  • [12:23:05] <tbr> if there is no cape manager, then you need a proper DT preloaded
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  • [12:24:58] <Laurenceb> what is a DT?
  • [12:27:22] <tbr> device tree
  • [12:27:50] <Laurenceb> ah
  • [12:28:47] <tbr> you need to tell the kernel which devices are there that need drivers loaded and be made available etc
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  • [12:34:34] <woglinde> and than use overlay
  • [12:34:35] <woglinde> haha
  • [12:38:54] <Laurenceb> hmm
  • [12:39:06] <Laurenceb> im going to go back to the 3.8.13 kernel
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  • [12:43:19] <Laurenceb> if i can work out how
  • [12:43:25] <Laurenceb> --kernel 3.8.13 fails
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  • [13:09:35] <RangerGeek> Morning All.
  • [13:10:11] <Laurenceb> hi
  • [13:10:18] <Laurenceb> hmf
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  • [13:10:25] <RangerGeek> ever get that emmc flashed?
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  • [13:10:30] <Laurenceb> not usably
  • [13:10:35] <Laurenceb> still working on it now
  • [13:10:40] <RangerGeek> Aww - that sucks.
  • [13:10:44] <Laurenceb> atm i am trying to fix python
  • [13:10:50] <Laurenceb> python 2.7 segfaults
  • [13:11:02] <Laurenceb> with the beaglebone.org image
  • [13:11:24] <RangerGeek> Shouldn't that function out-of-the-box? :)
  • [13:11:46] <Laurenceb> it should, but this is beaghlebone we are talking about
  • [13:12:58] <Laurenceb> for some reason pip isnt running with python2.6
  • [13:13:06] <Laurenceb> and i need pip to test gpio
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  • [13:13:30] <Laurenceb> Setting up python2.7 (2.7.3-6+deb7u2) ...
  • [13:13:30] <Laurenceb> Segmentation fault
  • [13:13:32] <Laurenceb> argggggggggggg
  • [13:13:41] <Laurenceb> anyone here in the UK?
  • [13:13:54] <woglinde> you do not need pip for gpio really
  • [13:14:06] <Laurenceb> i know but it helps
  • [13:14:07] <woglinde> you can always tinker with /sys yourself and shell
  • [13:14:25] <Laurenceb> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
  • [13:14:38] <Laurenceb> so in a week of trying ive only made negative progress
  • [13:15:01] <Laurenceb> anyone got any ideas how to fix this?
  • [13:15:17] <Laurenceb> is there another eMMC flasher image anywhere?
  • [13:15:30] <Laurenceb> other than the broken one form beaglebone.org?
  • [13:15:33] <Laurenceb> *from
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  • [13:17:28] <Laurenceb> hmf
  • [13:17:56] <Laurenceb> pity they dont ship with debian
  • [13:18:01] <Laurenceb> or id buy a new board
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  • [13:18:52] <RangerGeek> ? The element14 version of the beaglebone black ships with Debian.
  • [13:18:57] <Laurenceb> oh
  • [13:18:59] <Laurenceb> cool
  • [13:19:02] <Laurenceb> ill order some
  • [13:19:34] <RangerGeek> Linkage -> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1876?gclid=CNbL4_C3z8ECFRJp7Aod6xgAwg
  • [13:20:01] <RangerGeek> Debian Linux w/the 3.8.13-bone kernel - Specifically.
  • [13:21:38] <Laurenceb> if only they had an image
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  • [13:22:39] <Laurenceb> as i cant seem to find a way to fix this mess
  • [13:23:18] <RangerGeek> You're saying that the version on here http://beagleboard.org/latest-images is borked?
  • [13:23:29] <DiegoTc> Has someone make work the Miniature WiFi (802.11b/g/n) for the BBB using the newest version of Angstrom kernel 3.8+ ?
  • [13:23:29] <Laurenceb> yes
  • [13:23:43] <Laurenceb> RangerGeek: python segfaults
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  • [13:27:34] <RangerGeek> LaurenceB - you might try posting on the bbb adafruit forum as well to see if they have an image available. http://forums.adafruit.com/viewforum.php?f=49
  • [13:27:49] <Laurenceb> ok
  • [13:28:06] <Laurenceb> i suspect this is fixable
  • [13:28:16] <Laurenceb> i managed this fix yesterday, but didnt make notes
  • [13:28:31] <Laurenceb> bricked my BBB last night and had to reflash
  • [13:29:31] <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/9680737
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  • [13:34:57] <RangerGeek> looks like there's multiple images on this site as well toward the bottom - http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian
  • [13:36:28] <KotH> Laurenceb: stupid question: do you have a serial cable for the debug-serial port?
  • [13:37:32] <Laurenceb> i could make one
  • [13:37:42] <KotH> -.-
  • [13:37:48] <Laurenceb> ah thanks for the link
  • [13:37:50] <KotH> Laurenceb: you most likely didnt brick anything
  • [13:38:00] <KotH> most likely just something not running right
  • [13:38:06] <Laurenceb> ok
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  • [13:38:19] <KotH> but instead of trying to look at what your linux does, you prefere to fly blind
  • [13:38:24] * KotH shakes head
  • [13:39:05] <Laurenceb> heh
  • [13:39:15] <Laurenceb> jessie kernel: 3.14.19-ti-r30
  • [13:39:22] <Laurenceb> ^thats without cape manager right?
  • [13:39:23] <themadcanudist> howdy folks, is there a way to compensate for overscan on a TV when running Xorg x11 via an HDMI interface on a beaglebone black?
  • [13:39:34] * KotH as no idea
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  • [13:54:34] <KaaK> can a device tree expert help me understand nodes marked with `&`? See here (http://paste.debian.net/129062/) starting at line 73
  • [13:55:58] <KaaK> it appears to be some sort of overlay -- but I can't find any documentation about its use
  • [13:59:38] <av500> panto: ^^^
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  • [14:06:00] <panto> KaaK, it's a phandle reference
  • [14:06:41] <panto> it's not an overlay, it's a dts include file
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  • [14:10:07] <woglinde> hehe you awake panto
  • [14:10:16] <panto> hi woglinde
  • [14:10:30] <panto> I was summoned by a bear
  • [14:10:32] <woglinde> jo panto saw your elce talk
  • [14:10:41] <woglinde> twice by accident
  • [14:10:46] <panto> lol
  • [14:10:53] <panto> twice the pain, none the gain
  • [14:10:59] <woglinde> or better one and half
  • [14:11:12] <woglinde> the second half the first time I was sleepy
  • [14:12:54] <panto> my droning on does not help in awakeness
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  • [14:23:23] <Laurenceb> ok i reflashed
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  • [14:23:30] <Laurenceb> now the usb mini B is dead
  • [14:23:43] <Laurenceb> nothing showing on on lsusb from my pc
  • [14:24:02] <KotH> conenct a serial cable
  • [14:24:09] <Laurenceb> i dont have one
  • [14:24:12] <KotH> get one
  • [14:24:12] <Laurenceb> grrr
  • [14:24:28] <KotH> they are like 1usd with fake FTDI on ebay
  • [14:24:39] <KotH> shipping included
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  • [14:31:39] <Laurenceb> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3oca40vrH-g/Ubd5TjD-0_I/AAAAAAAAALU/-GibZBaTvKk/s400/beaglebone-black-serial.jpg
  • [14:31:50] <Laurenceb> is that from the point of view of the BBB?
  • [14:32:08] <KotH> i think thats from the point of view from above the BBB
  • [14:32:12] <Laurenceb> ok
  • [14:32:18] <Laurenceb> cp2102 time
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  • [14:32:27] <KotH> check schematics to be sure
  • [14:32:39] <KotH> do not trust some random pic from the intarwebz
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  • [14:34:04] <av500> its correct
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  • [14:36:26] <Laurenceb> what are the usart settings?
  • [14:36:31] <Laurenceb> 115200?
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  • [14:36:42] * woglinde still wonders why people starting without serial console support
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  • [14:39:35] <KotH> woglinde: they dont know any better
  • [14:42:14] <woglinde> koth uhm
  • [14:45:00] <Laurenceb> hmf
  • [14:45:07] <Laurenceb> looks fine from the terminal
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  • [14:45:27] <Laurenceb> i cant seem to get any response to commands tho
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  • [15:03:05] <Laurenceb> hmm
  • [15:03:22] <Laurenceb> now trying with bone50 build of 3.8.13
  • [15:03:29] <Laurenceb> nothing on lsusb still
  • [15:03:31] <Laurenceb> wtf is going on
  • [15:03:50] <av500> maybe something is broken
  • [15:03:57] <av500> checked the cable?
  • [15:04:53] <Laurenceb> ill try replacing it
  • [15:05:08] <Laurenceb> i had the same problem for a few hours yesterday
  • [15:05:13] <Laurenceb> never found out what it was
  • [15:05:20] <Laurenceb> tried on windows7 etc, no luck
  • [15:05:33] <Laurenceb> should i be able to enter commands via serial?
  • [15:05:39] <Laurenceb> atm i can only get output
  • [15:06:00] <av500> both
  • [15:06:06] <av500> there should be a console on it
  • [15:06:12] <Laurenceb> hmm
  • [15:06:16] <av500> disable all flow control
  • [15:06:21] <Laurenceb> yeah sure
  • [15:06:28] <Laurenceb> ive soldered a cp2102 onto it
  • [15:06:52] <Laurenceb> ok ill give up on this and try serial again
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  • [15:10:35] <Laurenceb> arg
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  • [15:10:54] <Laurenceb> somethings broken with my hardware
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  • [15:12:55] <Laurenceb> http://xkcd.com/349/
  • [15:13:02] <Laurenceb> only in my case thats over the past week
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  • [15:14:15] <Laurenceb> ok just got some new BBB from farnell
  • [15:14:18] <Laurenceb> ethernet works
  • [15:14:23] <Laurenceb> phew
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  • [15:27:09] <Laurenceb> usb 1-1: usb_disable_device nuking all URBs
  • [15:27:11] <Laurenceb> damn
  • [15:27:25] <Laurenceb> "nuking" is permanent
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  • [16:15:25] <Laurenceb> is it possible to accress gpio registers with c?
  • [16:15:54] <ddrown> in the kernel? yes. in userland? no
  • [16:17:03] <Laurenceb> i see
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  • [16:17:19] <Laurenceb> someone seems to have done it with /dev/mem
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  • [16:24:22] <ddrown> ah, heh. I guess there is that
  • [16:26:41] <KotH> Laurenceb: you can access them from c
  • [16:26:54] <KotH> Laurenceb: there is a docu about how to do that
  • [16:26:58] <Laurenceb> ok
  • [16:27:05] <Laurenceb> im trying to access gpio3_13
  • [16:27:07] <KotH> Laurenceb: and don't dare to use /dev/mem
  • [16:27:10] <Laurenceb> to control usb power
  • [16:27:15] <Laurenceb> ok lol
  • [16:27:30] <Laurenceb> i tried using python, it has no effect on gpio3
  • [16:27:49] <Laurenceb> https://www.mail-archive.com/beagleboard@googlegroups.com/msg02852.html
  • [16:28:12] <Laurenceb> basically im trying to steal the pin from the usb driver
  • [16:28:36] <Laurenceb> looks like you are locked out from pin 13 via the gpio driver
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  • [16:29:20] <KotH> Laurenceb: you cannot steal a pin
  • [16:29:26] <KotH> Laurenceb: the pinmux has to be set correctly
  • [16:29:30] <KotH> Laurenceb: use DT for that
  • [16:29:33] <Laurenceb> oh
  • [16:29:35] <Laurenceb> hmm
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  • [16:32:32] <Laurenceb> is it possible to control gpio3_13 from user space?
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  • [16:43:26] <KaaK> panto, sorry -- got caught up in a meeting. When a phandle is referenced in an include file, does that simple add properties to that node that it references?
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  • [16:44:08] <panto> if it's of the form &foo { bar = "baz"; }; yes
  • [16:44:27] <KaaK> panto, do you have a place where I read up on this usage? I only see phandle dereferences from within nodes' cell properties
  • [16:45:05] <panto> excellent tutorial: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/petazzoni-device-tree-dummies.pdf
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  • [16:55:57] <Laurenceb> i cant write to slots
  • [16:56:02] <Laurenceb> -bash: /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.9/slots : No such file or directory
  • [16:56:55] <mishal> are you sure there were no kernel panic?
  • [16:57:51] <mishal> dmesg | tail
  • [16:58:06] <Laurenceb> oh yeah
  • [16:58:19] <Laurenceb> i need to add -00A0 to the end?
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  • [16:58:47] <mishal> nope
  • [16:59:40] <Laurenceb> wtf
  • [16:59:44] <Laurenceb> i dont understnad this
  • [16:59:57] <Laurenceb> whats with the file extensions?
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  • [17:01:34] <KaaK> panto, thanks! I've been reading up and found that yesterday -- just browsed it again, and I'm still not finding a single use of that phandle dereference in include files ...
  • [17:02:13] <panto> it's a common idiom
  • [17:02:21] <KaaK> I'm developing a love-hate relationship with DT -- they're great, but the docs are nearly non-existent
  • [17:02:37] <Laurenceb> yeah ive reached my limit
  • [17:02:49] <Laurenceb> unless i get this working today im quitting
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  • [17:04:43] <Laurenceb> can anyone explain to me how i should name the file?
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  • [17:08:57] <KaaK> is there any literature on device tree includes? I'm finding plenty of docs online about basic concepts, and ABIs, but understanding `arch/arm/boot/dts/*` is pretty daunting without _really_ understanding includes
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  • [17:38:15] <KaaK> what is the general workflow being used for the linux git repo? (https://github.com/beagleboard/linux)
  • [17:38:41] <KaaK> additionally, what is it tracking? bbb specific patches to the vanilla kernel?
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  • [17:40:19] <KaaK> i guess in a word -- what is its purpose? why not just use the upstream repository?
  • [17:40:50] <KaaK> what hole does it fill?
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  • [17:43:02] <woglinde> KaaK rcn has no access to kernel.org?
  • [17:43:22] <woglinde> KaaK do you have an account on kernel.org?
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  • [17:46:28] <KaaK> woglinde, this isn't an attack -- no shit we're not core contributors to the mainline kernel. I'm just attempting to understand how and what work goes into this repo
  • [17:47:04] <woglinde> KaaK write an email to rcn and he maybe answers you
  • [17:48:31] <vagrantc> what repository are you talking about?
  • [17:48:44] <KaaK> https://github.com/beagleboard/linux
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  • [17:49:52] <KaaK> part of my confusion also stems from the depreciated kernel repo (https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel) -- which appears to have been a set of patches applied against the vanilla kernel
  • [17:50:11] <vagrantc> i believe it is used as a staging area to work on code not yet ready for mainline, or backporting features to older versions which would not be acceptible for bugfixes in the older versions
  • [17:50:55] <woglinde> KaaK again ask Robert C. Nelson
  • [17:51:04] <woglinde> or jkridner
  • [17:51:16] <vagrantc> essentially, you want to have confidence that the code works before proposing to mainline...
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  • [17:51:25] <woglinde> nobody else will give you a detailed answer
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  • [17:51:38] <GJN> Hello everyone!
  • [17:51:58] * vagrantc waves
  • [17:52:13] <GJN> Anyone have any cool projects cooking?
  • [17:53:25] <ddrown> experimenting with temperature compensated NTP clock (for GPS signal holdover)
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  • [17:54:39] <ddrown> http://dan.drown.org/bbb/temp-clock.png
  • [17:55:28] <GJN> Thats cool!
  • [17:55:29] <ddrown> using a DS18B20 temperature probe
  • [17:55:36] <ddrown> and GPS reciever
  • [17:56:02] <GJN> I just finished designing a cellular/xbee/can gateway cape
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  • [17:57:04] <ddrown> you have something automotive planned?
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  • [17:58:00] <GJN> My work has precertified cellular modems and we wanted to make a easy dev board for the beaglebone
  • [17:58:27] <ddrown> cool, it's always nice when someone has done the work for you
  • [17:58:31] <abferm> I'm going to be cooking up a cape to control several brushed DC motors as part of my CE senior project.
  • [17:58:35] <GJN> Thats my job :D
  • [17:59:11] <GJN> I think we are putting one in an electric porsche and another in a solar car to allow for system monitoring via the cloud
  • [18:02:13] <KaaK> GJN, what sort of modems are you playing with?
  • [18:02:52] <KaaK> i'm currently evaluating the bbb in a distributed network (on the cell network)
  • [18:03:26] <KaaK> playing around with the sierra wireless mc7750 and mc7354
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  • [18:53:03] <GJN> The Cellular Modem is manufactured by Nimbelink, and is called the Skywire Cellular modem
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  • [19:00:39] <Whoopsie> Beaglebone Black is awesome
  • [19:00:59] <Whoopsie> but is er somthing like a webinterface like webmin that works on beaglebone black revc
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  • [19:04:37] <woglinde> Whoopsie install cloud image and you have some webinterface
  • [19:04:49] <woglinde> or install debian and the webmin debian package
  • [19:05:52] <Whoopsie> woglinde, i already got debian on in
  • [19:06:40] <woglinde> apt-cache search webmin
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  • [19:07:16] <MK_FG> rao_, Necro-reply, but I'm afraid I haven't got what exactly seem to be the problem there - the fact that mouse/keyboard stops working (in which case, you might want to check X logs and e.g. xinput) or that you can't physically access these and need to restart some apps on X screen remotely (in which case just set DISPLAY env var and start them from ssh - should work in most cases)
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  • [19:14:24] <Whoopsie> does not work woglinde
  • [19:14:36] <Whoopsie> mabye this works http://signalraiders.com/
  • [19:15:05] <MK_FG> KaaK, There are tarballs with patches for vanilla kernel versions to rcn ones, so you can probably see what's the diff there quite easily (iirc it's not a lot for >3.8 without cape manager, mostly drivers)
  • [19:15:24] <woglinde> Whoopsie its long time since I used webmin
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  • [19:16:25] <Whoopsie> woglinde, i use debian a long time on my homeserver i installed that but on beaglebone does it not work right now
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  • [19:33:34] <woglinde> Whoopsie whats not working right?
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  • [19:34:17] <Whoopsie> beaglebone is off right now
  • [19:34:31] <Whoopsie> but something with LC_ does not working
  • [19:34:33] <woglinde> hm that is an intressting error
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  • [19:34:40] <woglinde> ah
  • [19:34:42] <Whoopsie> did fix that but nothing helps
  • [19:34:43] <woglinde> only lang setup
  • [19:34:49] <Whoopsie> jup
  • [19:34:58] <woglinde> thats easy to solve
  • [19:35:01] <woglinde> install locales
  • [19:35:11] <Whoopsie> did
  • [19:35:24] <Whoopsie> but wil try that again tommorrow
  • [19:35:34] <Whoopsie> thx
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  • [19:45:46] <simba_> hello..
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  • [19:45:56] <simba_> I am new to beagle board black..
  • [19:46:23] <simba_> I was wondering where I can download the sources for beagle bone black rev C
  • [19:46:46] <simba_> build it my self on a ubuntu machine and boot it
  • [19:47:08] <simba_> where can I get the source code and build instructions.
  • [19:47:33] <veremit> http://beagleboard.org
  • [19:49:41] <simba_> which image is stable amstrong or debian for further driver development on that..
  • [19:52:42] <veremit> specifically .. http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
  • [19:53:09] <veremit> either or .. take your preference
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  • [19:54:24] <veremit> if you wish to go a bit more cutting-edge I can recommend .. https://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black .. but there is no cape support beyond kernel version 3.8 that I'm currently aware of.
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  • [20:11:36] <Whoopsie> how to use al of the 65 possible digital i/o s ?
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  • [20:34:22] <nyt-> read the bone101 page
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  • [20:49:17] <simba_> hi.. veremit.. are the source code on git hub.. https://github.com/beagleboard
  • [20:49:25] <simba_> working ones..
  • [20:49:48] <veremit> dunno
  • [20:50:05] <veremit> I would assume so ... but assumptions are dangerous :)
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  • [20:51:54] <simba_> ok.. thanks a lot..
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