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  • [00:39:35] <yates> got it
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  • [00:46:43] <m_billybob2> rcn-ee, these images those guys with the reboot problems. Is the watchdog package / daemon installed ?
  • [00:47:26] <m_billybob2> because tehre is a /var/log/watchdog log file . . .
  • [00:48:56] <m_billybob2> well, /etc/watchdog.conf can be configured that way at any rate
  • [00:52:02] <rcn-ee> nope, watchdog daemon is not installed. ;) that just puts the board in an endless reboot mode.. ;)
  • [00:52:22] <rcn-ee> kinda of a stupid package right.. ;)
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  • [00:58:13] <yates> is the dts file format documented?
  • [00:59:19] <m_billybob2> rcn-ee, is that becasue the conf files are not configured from the get go ?
  • [00:59:23] <yates> e.g., what goes in targets are there, what keywords such as __overlay__ are there, etc?
  • [00:59:26] <rcn-ee> yates, https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/devicetree
  • [01:00:32] <m_billybob2> rcn-ee, but in any case, if watchdog doesnt work why even have the module loaded ? or im guessing it s loaded. It shows as PID 11 on my beaglebone black, but i can not attach to the process with strace
  • [01:00:43] <m_billybob2> but im using 3.8.x kernel
  • [01:01:40] <m_billybob2> but im using 3.8.x kernel, meaning im using a different kernel than those having the problem i think
  • [01:01:53] <rcn-ee> i'm really not sure, it only happened ot me once this morning. just randomly rebooted. (working on v3.14 at the time)...
  • [01:02:13] <m_billybob2> it is rather baffeling.
  • [01:02:44] <rcn-ee> no noise in dmesg, (of course, i most of the debugging off..)
  • [01:03:41] <m_billybob2> does optargs "quiet" effect kernel debug messages or just bootup ?
  • [01:04:19] <rcn-ee> true, should remove the 'quiet'.. but kernel panics/oops should still come thru..
  • [01:04:26] <yates> more specifically, how are the hex values in the first field of the pinctrl-single,pins vector mapped to those GPIOs? http://ur1.ca/i7fi5 -> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/134425/14110020
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  • [01:05:40] <m_billybob2> rcn-ee, well im assuming this is a problem with an application or tool they're all using that stalls or otherwise doesnt kick the dog
  • [01:05:58] <rcn-ee> yates 0x14 -> 20 /4 = 5 thus: gpio1_5
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  • [01:07:09] <rcn-ee> it gets more complex with gpio2/3/4 as you +/- an offset
  • [01:07:12] <rcn-ee> i think 64..
  • [01:07:24] <m_billybob2> im still learning about the linux watchdog, so i do not know how watchdog\0 works, but one such way to trace problems is if this is a kernel module and compiled instatically . . . add a kprint or two to the module tempoarily.
  • [01:08:20] <yates> rcn-ee: yeah, but GPIO1_0 is 0x00, so how do you get to GPIO0_x?
  • [01:09:06] <rcn-ee> there is no "gpio0_x".... yes there is a spi0/usart0.... ;)
  • [01:09:49] <m_billybob2> sudo ps -ef |grep watchdog gives me this -> root 11 2 0 16:55 ? 00:00:00 [watchdog/0]
  • [01:09:59] <m_billybob2> lsmod shows no watchdog module
  • [01:11:07] <m_billybob2> but ive been scouring google for "odd" ways of helping these guys with their problem, and im comming up empty handed
  • [01:11:07] <rcn-ee> built-in: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/ti-linux-kernel-dev/blob/ti-linux-3.14.y/patches/defconfig#L2523
  • [01:11:25] <m_billybob2> can it safely be disabled ?
  • [01:11:36] <m_billybob2> or is it required for kernel functionality
  • [01:11:54] * m_billybob2 is looking
  • [01:12:24] <rcn-ee> it's not required, but since we now have pm working, it's kinda nice if something opps for it to 'just reboot..'
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  • [01:14:01] <yates> rcn-ee: in this file there is a GPIO0_11 - is that a typo?
  • [01:14:47] <m_billybob2> thats another thign i need to read up on
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  • [01:15:34] <m_billybob2> my "fix" for the whwole situation. put a bigger battery inbetween ac and the beqaglebone
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  • [01:17:09] <rcn-ee> yates, no that one is correct... why gpio1 starts at 0x00 and gpio0 starts at 0x00 + offset.. just the way ti did the memory map..
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  • [01:30:51] <m_billybob2> rcn-ee, i have a question im not sure how to put it exactly but here it is: If i want to connect lets say an MSP430 launchpad to a beaglebone. is there anythign i need to take care of at boot ? I mean because of pin states etc ?
  • [01:31:14] <m_billybob2> could be uart, SPI or I2C
  • [01:31:26] <m_billybob2> was kind of hoping to do some resting
  • [01:31:34] <m_billybob2> testing* on all proto's
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  • [01:34:06] <jkridner> rcn-ee: the P9_14 problem is back.
  • [01:35:26] <rcn-ee> P_14? wasn't it P_41?
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  • [01:38:28] <rcn-ee> jkridner, as we've are transitioning to the pinmux-helper, i've been tagging ones not ready like so: https://github.com/RobertCNelson/dtb-rebuilder/blob/3.14-ti/src/arm/am335x-boneblack-nxp-hdmi-audio.dtsi#L11 till they all fixed..
  • [01:38:56] <rcn-ee> basicly hinting ot pinmux-helper, leave this pin alone till we get it transitioned..
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  • [01:40:28] <rcn-ee> P9_14 is: EHRPWM1A, that's the backlight for most lcd, which cape are you running?
  • [01:41:43] <rcn-ee> m_billybob2, uart/i2c should be working good, i just haven't tested spi..
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  • [01:49:20] <jkridner> rcn-ee: might have been P9_42... anyway, one of the ones with an LED on the Bacon Cape.
  • [01:51:35] <jkridner> rcn-ee: any idea why cape-universal doesn't have the status entry and the gpio helpers don't seem to be there?
  • [01:51:40] <rcn-ee> i know the hdmi audio codec pins are muxed by default now..
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  • [01:52:21] <jkridner> the red LED on the Bacon Cape keeps lighting up with uSD card activity.
  • [01:55:18] <rcn-ee> is taht gpio0_6?
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  • [02:06:15] <rcn-ee> jkridner, i think your just seeing xdma_event_initr1.clkout2 (P9_41A, which is tied to P9_42A/B)..
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  • [02:48:55] <yates> when you export a GPIO via /sys/class/gpio/export, does it default to input regardless of what direction it may have been set at in a .dts file?
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  • [02:51:58] <yates> where are the PFO?L flags in the /sys/devices/bone_capemgr.*/slots output defined?
  • [02:53:19] <yates> rcn-ee: where is that memory map defined? i've searched the TRM but couldn't find it
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  • [02:56:58] <m_billybob2> rcn-ee, , thanks, not exactly what I was asking but i think i got it all sorted lol
  • [02:57:28] <yates> is there any other way to read/write GPIOs using the default DTS configurations, e.g., without have to re-configure them via the /sys/class/gpio/export mechanism?
  • [02:57:33] <m_billybob2> rcn-ee, basically i was asking how to avoid burning up the processor while having "stuff" connected it IO pins at power up
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  • [02:58:50] <m_billybob2> yates, i gave you an options earlier but you've dismissed it so have fun ;)
  • [02:59:06] <yates> m_billybob2: kiss my ass
  • [02:59:14] <m_billybob2> no thanks
  • [02:59:25] <yates> neither will i yours, which is what you seem to expect
  • [03:00:00] <m_billybob2> so me suggesting you use universal-io by charles translates into "kiss my ass" now days eh ?
  • [03:00:13] <m_billybob2> whatever have fun on the ignore list
  • [03:00:29] <yates> you're far from suggesting. it's now a "ram down the throat" exercise for you.
  • [03:00:44] <yates> i've responded several times that this is not the way i choose to do things
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  • [03:19:37] <yates> rcn-ee: are you at the Forest Dr/Greenville facility?
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  • [03:43:19] <rcn-ee> yates, at the Wardenclyffe
  • [03:44:17] <yates> NY?
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  • [03:47:10] <rcn-ee> kidding, nope, at northern minnesota..
  • [03:48:16] <yates> brrrrrr... :)
  • [03:48:56] <rcn-ee> keeps the rift wraf out.. ;)
  • [03:50:07] <yates> i must say, i didn't enjoy Dallas.
  • [03:52:29] <yates> a bbb rev c is AM3359? i thought it was a 3358?
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  • [03:56:32] <m_billybob2> jkridner, i remember reading sometime back in here you were lookign to take over the world one line javascript at a time or some such ? How about a Nodejs MPPT charge controller ? heh eheh
  • [03:56:42] <m_billybob2> i actually think that would probably work well if done right
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  • [03:59:16] <m_billybob2> Is of some interrest to me, maybe ill make one.
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  • [04:46:09] * jkridner googles MPPT charge controller?
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  • [04:47:00] <ds2> MPPT? isn't that the power point tracking stuff from TI
  • [04:47:08] <ds2> tuned for solar
  • [04:47:55] <jkridner> http://makerfaire.com/makers/solrmatic-automatic-solar-cooking/
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  • [04:50:22] <m_billybob2> mppt is not specific to TI
  • [04:50:56] <m_billybob2> maximumn power point tracking. Basically the "knee" of the I/V curve
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  • [04:53:16] <m_billybob2> Or simply put, you're eeking the most possible power out of a solar panel, or even in soem cases windpower
  • [04:55:24] <ds2> I see
  • [04:55:35] <ds2> learned it from a TI Tech day talk
  • [04:55:56] <m_billybob2> ah well im not exactly an expert and most certainly not in power electronics
  • [04:56:01] <ds2> don't hear much about them any more. had some good technical stuff there. esp. from the power folks
  • [04:56:56] <m_billybob2> Mostly you'd here it form peopel who live off grid perhaps ? and have a large enough solar array
  • [04:57:02] <m_billybob2> or from large solar farms
  • [04:57:27] <m_billybob2> we're offgrid, with a 6KW potential peak array
  • [04:57:41] <m_billybob2> we peak actualy at aroudn half that
  • [04:57:46] <m_billybob2> actual*
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  • [04:57:55] <m_billybob2> so roughly 50% efficieny
  • [04:58:28] <m_billybob2> MPPT is supposed to add back another 10-25% efficiency, but there are otehr factors
  • [04:58:46] <m_billybob2> heat, battery temp . . .are a couple i can think of offhand
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  • [05:04:48] <av500> also ranchers driving their herds through the solar fields...
  • [05:05:36] <m_billybob2> would not happen here.
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  • [05:06:38] <m_billybob2> our arrays are abotu two stories up on top of a large metal building first of al but the fence aroudn the entire 40 Acres would stop it before that
  • [05:07:04] <m_billybob2> perhaps cowswith wings ? ah double whammy lol
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  • [05:28:59] <ragnar76> good morning all
  • [05:29:16] <ragnar76> anyone knowd where to buy the weather cape?
  • [05:29:30] <av500> and weather or not to buy it
  • [05:29:52] <av500> http://www.jameco.com/1/1/51149-bb-bone-wthr-01-beaglebone-weather-cape-beagleboard.html
  • [05:30:03] <av500> wow, 99
  • [05:30:12] <av500> I hope it makes good weather
  • [05:31:40] <ragnar76> yeah
  • [05:33:02] <ragnar76> i've build my own weathercape and i wanted to know where the difference is but $99 is lot over my budget atm
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  • [05:34:45] <av500> http://www.newark.com/circuitco/bb-bone-wthr-01/board-beaglebone-weather-cape/dp/26W8122
  • [05:34:46] <av500> 74
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  • [07:11:32] <Murugesan> Hi
  • [07:12:25] <tbr> mooo
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  • [07:20:46] <Murugesan> Can any one please let me know if i can use black hawk jatag instead of Keil Ulink2
  • [07:21:23] * tbr isn't familiar with either
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  • [08:31:03] <Rotti> hi
  • [08:35:12] <woglinde> hi rooti
  • [08:35:17] <woglinde> ups rotti
  • [08:39:09] <Rotti> commom typo, woglinde ;)
  • [08:39:12] <tbr> moaning, gents
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  • [09:33:49] <Murugesan> hi
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  • [15:18:08] <mistawrught> im running ubuntu on my beaglebone black. Is there a way to use the scripts in opt to build a realtime kernel?
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  • [15:30:09] <FMA> Hi guys
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  • [15:36:40] <woglinde> mistawrught what is realtime for you?
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  • [16:34:19] <LuaStoned> hey, when loading the pru driver via 'modprobe uio_pruss' shoudn't there be /dev/uio0?
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  • [17:54:07] <tbr> kamileon: boot from sd card that has lots of free space, dd to that free space, rinse repeat, but reverse the direction
  • [17:54:29] <tbr> or use netcat
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  • [18:02:59] <kamileon> tbr: thanks, that was my plan. Just seems like a pain to have to hold down the boot button every time i want to boot the BBB.
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  • [18:05:54] <sa_> hi
  • [18:06:36] <sa_> i wanted to find out if the beaglebone black can be overclocked externally
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  • [18:08:14] <thurgood_> what does overclocked externally mean?
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  • [18:18:31] <m_billybob> thurgood, perhaps overclocked when outside ?
  • [18:19:14] <m_billybob> yeah, i have no idea either
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  • [18:23:13] <tbr> m_billybob: overclocked by external lightning strike. 1.21 Jiggawats!
  • [18:23:33] <notserpe> decap and then probes for overclock or perhaps purchase a FIB
  • [18:24:49] <m_billybob> I dont think it would be a good idea to overclock the processor on a beaglebone either way
  • [18:25:32] <m_billybob> I think i remember reading thatthe beagelboardXM could be "safely" overclocked to 1Ghz ? but meh idk
  • [18:26:02] <m_billybob> BBB alrqdy operates at this frequency ;)
  • [18:26:11] <thurgood> the 3730 used in the xM is a 1GHz part.. so it's technically not overclocking, afaik
  • [18:27:18] <thurgood> they may call it overdrive mode or something though
  • [18:27:30] <m_billybob> well when it boils down to it, i really dont care. Its not something id do with such hardware.
  • [18:29:09] <m_billybob> I mean, even if we wanted to, its not like we're going ot be playing Crysis on this thing . . .
  • [18:29:35] <m_billybob> it can hardly handle minecraft form what i understand
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  • [18:36:39] <PuffDragon> hi all
  • [18:36:42] <PuffDragon> anyone alive here >?
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  • [18:55:03] <PuffDragon> I guess not
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  • [21:41:30] <JetForMe> It says: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf: interface name too long (is 20)
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  • [22:06:25] <yates> does debian 3.8-bone64 put libc6 somewhere weird?
  • [22:06:37] <jpfau> JetForMe: cool, glad you got it working :)
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  • [22:07:31] <yates> the cmakelists file has this there: http://www.fpaste.org/134724/41107672/
  • [22:07:46] <yates> any clues?
  • [22:14:43] <yates> nm. got it.
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