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  • [00:00:36] <veremit> you should find some easy tutorials on 'hello world' in c
  • [00:00:38] <A1A1> sorry , please help: where can I find this vendors list for sensor cape?
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  • [00:01:33] <AquaDeny> Yeah I found a lot of tutorials but dont know how to compile
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  • [00:10:05] <Naikrovek> AquaDeny: compiling isn't too hard. you want to code ON the BBB itself? command line 'gcc' and makefile will compile for you.
  • [00:10:39] <Naikrovek> if you're new at programming entirely i wouldn't necessarily suggest a language that requires compilation to start with. depends on your goal, i suppose.
  • [00:10:58] <AquaDeny> I would prefer a ide like eclipse if possible?
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  • [00:11:54] <Naikrovek> Eclipse is too memory intensive to run directly on the BBB, but you can run it on your more powerful desktop PC and then have it actually compile on the BBB, iirc. derekmolloy.ie has a page about that, and some videos. let me find the links.
  • [00:12:31] <Naikrovek> what language are you wanting to use
  • [00:12:36] <veremit> whats it that the Pi uses? Python?
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  • [00:12:46] <veremit> could get that installed
  • [00:12:49] <Naikrovek> Python, C, Java, Perl, C++
  • [00:13:05] <Naikrovek> pi is full linux too. they want you to start with python, though.
  • [00:13:40] <veremit> I wanna start some python .. soon .. :)
  • [00:13:45] <veremit> now its C and perl :/
  • [00:13:48] <Naikrovek> python enthusiasm turns me off of python so much. if it were half as good as everyone says it would be far and away the best language ever written, and it isn't.
  • [00:13:50] <AquaDeny> Okay- thanks atm i follow this one http://jkuhlm.bplaced.net/hellobone/ ... but with this it isnt possible to compile PRU code right?
  • [00:14:10] <veremit> you'll need something lower level for the Pru I thought
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  • [00:14:32] <Naikrovek> c and perl are awesome. C for the PRU i believe. It's a microcontroller.
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  • [00:14:45] <Naikrovek> Perl is especially awesome and underappreciated of late.
  • [00:15:15] <Naikrovek> <-- C#, Java, Perl, and JavaScript guy.
  • [00:15:41] <Naikrovek> Is there some magic sauce to using the GPIO on the BBB? I'm trying to use P8_19 and P8_20, and they're always low and high respectively no matter what I have tried so far.
  • [00:15:46] <Naikrovek> I'm clearly missing something; can someone tell me what that might be?
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  • [00:16:13] <Naikrovek> Is there some GPIO set up that must be done in order to make pins available for use?
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  • [00:25:52] <ds2> PRU is best programmed in assembly
  • [00:32:28] <AquaDeny> ds2; Do u know if its possible to compile pru part on windows?
  • [00:32:44] <ds2> i think so
  • [00:34:34] <AquaDeny> Did u code something for the pru?
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  • [00:38:42] <AquaDeny> Did i see it correct that i only can use 15 pins from GPIO on pru0?
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  • [00:48:55] <smurray> AquaDeny: see the table on http://elinux.org/Ti_AM33XX_PRUSSv2
  • [00:49:50] <smurray> AquaDeny: you can get 14 output / 15 input on pru1, pru0 is fewer
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  • [01:25:33] <AquaDeny> Thanks
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  • [05:35:31] <tasslehoff> Good morning. Have someone got a list over known good microsd-cards for omap 3530?
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  • [05:38:23] <av500> no
  • [05:39:33] <jpfau> I think the list of known bad would be shorter
  • [05:41:36] <kj4> my sandisk 1GB locks it up hard (it's around 3 years old, no idea the exact model) and works find on a windows7 mach
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  • [05:41:48] <kj4> ^find^fine
  • [05:42:14] <tasslehoff> we've used sandisk extreme 16gb, which has served us well. in early 2013 they replaced that card with something faster, and that gives us issues.
  • [05:42:34] <tasslehoff> so I'm looking for alternatives
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  • [05:43:15] <av500> tasslehoff: from when we worked with omap3, I dont remember that we had problems with specific cards
  • [05:43:32] <av500> but of course it could be that back then all cards were too slow compared to today
  • [05:43:46] <tasslehoff> av500: that was probably before march 2013 :)
  • [05:43:50] <mkad> Hi
  • [05:43:51] <av500> for sure
  • [05:43:54] <mkad> how to use pwm?
  • [05:43:56] <mkad> in pru
  • [05:44:03] <av500> pru has no PWM
  • [05:44:13] <mkad> I am trying this www.embedded-things.com/bbb/wireless-servo-control-part-3-pwm-servo-control-with-the-bbb-pru/l
  • [05:44:20] <mkad> but its outdated
  • [05:44:58] <mkad> av500, can be used to generate one right?
  • [05:45:16] <tasslehoff> av500: it is the exact same issue as in http://gumstix.8.x6.nabble.com/MicroSD-I-O-Errors-td4968025.html, and tests on different sd cards show that it is the ones from post-march-2013 that don't work.
  • [05:45:21] <av500> mkad: right
  • [05:45:43] <av500> tasslehoff: well, when TI shut down OMAP, things went downhill
  • [05:45:52] <tasslehoff> but, I'm keen on finding a working one instead of hunting for patches to backport to 2.6.39
  • [05:46:26] <mkad> av500, I read cpu running OS is unrelible to generate stable PWM signal, so author of post used PRU, host is calculating delay and passing it to PRU which just generates signal
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  • [05:46:34] <mkad> av500, however post is outdated
  • [05:46:51] <av500> yes, thats a good use case for the PRU
  • [05:46:58] <av500> mkad: why outdated?
  • [05:46:59] <mkad> av500, so I was wondering if this is somehow included now somewhere
  • [05:47:06] <av500> included?
  • [05:47:21] <mkad> well script fails to download TI link
  • [05:47:28] <mkad> wget http://e2e.ti.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/telligent-evolution-components-attachments/00-791-00-00-00-23-97-35/attachments.tar.gz
  • [05:47:28] <mkad> tar -xzf attachments.tar.gz
  • [05:47:29] <tasslehoff> av500: not a surprise. issues that would have been fixed before are not, I suspect.
  • [05:47:31] <mkad> this fails
  • [05:48:49] <mkad> av500, I downloaded file with firefox and tried manualy to patch pru package
  • [05:48:54] <mkad> but patches fail
  • [05:49:15] <mkad> Hunk #1 FAILED at 98.
  • [05:49:15] <mkad> Hunk #2 FAILED at 112.
  • [05:49:15] <mkad> Hunk #3 FAILED at 652.
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  • [05:49:56] <mkad> and than I need modified patched dtc... :|
  • [05:50:20] <mkad> this looks like a lot of steps somewhere in 2013...
  • [05:50:42] <av500> yeah well, its the fate of blog posts
  • [05:50:50] <av500> they stay the same while the world moves on
  • [05:50:59] <av500> but there are many links to be found about using the PRU
  • [05:51:04] <mkad> hmm ok
  • [05:51:10] <mkad> I will try something else thank
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  • [06:03:20] <mazzoo> is there any public PRU code available that uses the 28bit shift capture mode?
  • [06:03:57] <mazzoo> couldn't get it to trigger capturing when I tried some time back. also found no code using that mode
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  • [06:25:02] <tasslehoff> :)
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  • [08:27:39] <mkad> av500, I try other source to run code on pru I get sig segv when uploading it
  • [08:27:53] <mkad> av500, I tried this http://elinux.org/ECE497_BeagleBone_PRU
  • [08:28:07] <mkad> debian@arm:~/AM335x_PRU_BeagleBone/GPIO_PWM_PRU/bin$ ./blinker
  • [08:28:07] <mkad> Segmentation fault
  • [08:29:23] <mkad> it fails on prussdrv_pruintc_init()
  • [08:31:37] <qt-x> I am trying to build a device tree blob. In the source i have an #include "x.dtsi" however in an old version I had a /include/ "x.dtsi" now the device tree compiler complains about #include line. what am i doing wrong?
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  • [08:39:28] <mkad> hmm manual does not mention to enable pru
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  • [08:56:35] <alith> Hi, I have installed on an 8gb sd card the software provided by this website. then I have tried to do apt-get update but it says "no space left on device" I dont think it needs 8gb for an image. what can i do to expand and use more of my sd card?
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  • [09:20:31] <mkad> I give up
  • [09:20:44] <mkad> is there any official wiki with howto use PRU
  • [09:20:46] <mkad> ?
  • [09:20:53] <mkad> nothing I find works
  • [09:21:01] <mkad> segfaults etc.. no result
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  • [09:25:07] <mkad> also leds are blinking for no reason after booting already
  • [09:25:11] <mkad> why?
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  • [09:31:28] <maquefel> mkad: modprobe uio_pruss ?
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  • [09:39:57] <mkad> maquefel, yah yah but my leds are blinking like crazy for no reason after booting so I dont know if example does anything
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  • [09:42:38] <Humpelst1lzchen> mkad: are your LEDs under Linux control?
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  • [09:45:32] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, what do you mean?
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  • [09:45:42] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, No i dont use them
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  • [09:45:57] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, I just booted from sd card with Debian
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  • [09:46:04] <mkad> and they blink like crazy
  • [09:46:06] <mkad> for no reason
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  • [09:48:11] <Humpelst1lzchen> mkad: I assume thats a "yes"
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  • [09:49:11] <Humpelst1lzchen> mkad: You might wand to remove the LEDs from Linux or disable their trigger
  • [09:49:25] <Humpelst1lzchen> mkad: check /sys/class/leds
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  • [09:51:12] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, I might try that
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  • [09:51:18] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, thx
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  • [09:52:03] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, can this be set on boot somehow?
  • [09:52:58] <Humpelst1lzchen> mkad: you can do the echo none /sys/class/leds/.../trigger on boot yes but the prefered way for you is probably to remove the led from the devicetree
  • [09:54:11] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, I want to control it with my own script
  • [09:54:18] <mkad> dunno why it blinks
  • [09:54:20] <mkad> https://www.perturb.org/display/1127_BeagleBone_Black__USR_Leds.html
  • [09:54:25] <mkad> probably heartbeat
  • [09:54:41] <Humpelst1lzchen> mkad: do a cat on the triggerfile, it will tell you why
  • [09:56:03] <mkad> ok
  • [09:56:15] <mkad> I turned off heartbeat
  • [09:56:45] <mkad> now one led blinks very fast others are off.. and I think its the led I tried to control with pru
  • [09:56:50] <mkad> so looks all is fine
  • [09:56:55] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, thanks
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  • [10:08:54] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, another problem I dont see all partitions
  • [10:09:55] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, http://paste.debian.net/112618/
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  • [10:18:25] <mkad> mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 /mnt/
  • [10:18:25] <mkad> mount: special device /dev/mmcblk1p1 does not exist
  • [10:18:27] <mkad> any help?
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  • [10:20:21] <Humpelst1lzchen> mkad: mmcblk1p1 is not listed in /proc/partitions
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  • [10:37:29] <chanlevan> Hi all
  • [10:38:11] <chanlevan> I have a new BBB
  • [10:38:24] <chanlevan> because I need to install the Ubuntu on it
  • [10:38:30] <chanlevan> show I follow this instruction
  • [10:38:31] <chanlevan> http://www.armhf.com/boards/beaglebone-black/bbb-sd-install/
  • [10:38:58] <chanlevan> when I finished the step g "Finally, commit the changes by selecting w to ‘write’ the partition table and exit fdisk"
  • [10:39:05] <chanlevan> I unplug the usb cable
  • [10:39:43] <chanlevan> I plug the cable again but the board is not starting anymore
  • [10:40:16] <chanlevan> can someone help me recover it as the original state ?
  • [10:40:19] <chanlevan> thanks a million
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  • [10:41:57] <Guest21287> i want help in booting bb-xm angstromimage any one there?
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  • [12:21:34] <Laurenceb_> hi
  • [12:21:58] <Laurenceb_> im trying to get the battery voltage to be output on MUX_OUT of the PMIC
  • [12:22:19] <Laurenceb_> i2cdetect is showing UU
  • [12:22:29] <Laurenceb_> any ideas if this is fixable?
  • [12:22:42] <Laurenceb_> or do i have to recompile the kernel
  • [12:23:05] <Laurenceb_> where is the TPS65217 driver source?
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  • [13:01:20] <cityoflights2> did I miss anything here?
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  • [13:03:30] <gentor> Hi
  • [13:03:42] <gentor> anyone use Xport to connect on BeagleBone Black UART0 ?
  • [13:04:00] <gentor> I have a strange echo problem on UART0 of BBB
  • [13:10:22] <av500> explain
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  • [13:13:14] <gentor> hi
  • [13:13:33] <gentor> I connect a Lantronix XPort to BBB UART0
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  • [13:14:31] <woglinde> lol
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  • [14:20:13] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, yes its not
  • [14:20:22] <mkad> Humpelst1lzchen, do you know how to mount it?
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  • [18:34:46] <AquaDeny> Hello - can someone tell me a way to compile bbb pru stuff on windows using eclipse?
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  • [19:24:01] <trevize> hello, I have an issue with beaglebone black. I am trying to connect a webcam and stream. but whenever I run my node code, stream stops and I lose connectivity on the webcam. I have to restart the device to get the usbwebcam work again. I have I/o error on webcam whenever I run my node script. what might be wrong?
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  • [19:40:32] <woglinde> trevize why you need node? better user gstreamer
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  • [19:42:43] <trevize> beacuse I'd like to show the webcam in a webpage
  • [19:43:58] <woglinde> but as you see the node stuff whatever it uses to prepare a stream is not reliable
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  • [19:45:22] <trevize> node wont run the stream, I use mjpegstreamer to run a stream
  • [19:45:35] <woglinde> ieekks
  • [19:45:37] * tbr would probably use gstreamer and do a low framerate WebM stream
  • [19:45:43] <trevize> node just runs the code to start/stop the stream and it is working fine
  • [19:45:45] <woglinde> mjpegstreamer is utter shit
  • [19:45:49] <tbr> and put that in a <video> element
  • [19:46:22] <tbr> oh and use icecast for the stream delivery, can even run on the beagle
  • [19:46:24] <trevize> why it tis shit? :) it runs fine as far as I see. it has also a low cpu usage
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  • [19:47:01] <tbr> a) mjpeg sucks
  • [19:47:08] <woglinde> ->
  • [19:47:11] <trevize> icecast wont run for me, the device will not connect to internet
  • [19:47:12] <woglinde> tbr depends
  • [19:47:13] <tbr> b) apparently your webcam dies
  • [19:47:43] <trevize> well I purchased a c310 for cheap, it supports mjpeg
  • [19:47:45] <Humpelst1lzchen> tbr: whats wrong with mjpeg if you don't have a hw encoder?
  • [19:47:59] <tbr> Humpelst1lzchen: blurry 90s tech
  • [19:48:04] <trevize> and just an <image> is enough for displaying stream video with mjpeg
  • [19:48:06] <woglinde> Humpelst1lzchen size of stream
  • [19:48:23] <tbr> also crap quality
  • [19:48:27] <woglinde> but it is patent royaltiy free
  • [19:48:52] <tbr> so is webm :)
  • [19:48:52] <Humpelst1lzchen> tbr, woglinde: its also cheap on cpu
  • [19:49:16] <trevize> only %2 cpu usage on beagle :)
  • [19:49:18] <woglinde> we use it with ip cams
  • [19:49:46] <Humpelst1lzchen> trevize: probably depends on something like framerate, resolution, image compression...
  • [19:49:55] <trevize> my problem is with the bonescript. whenever I run it I lose webcam
  • [19:51:07] <woglinde> trevize how did you analyze it is not mjpegstreamer when stopping the stream?
  • [19:51:29] <woglinde> or how did you analyze its not the crappy musb driver
  • [19:54:57] <trevize> this is what I am not sure of :)
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  • [19:55:32] <trevize> all I can say is that the webcam fails to stream once I anologWrite a pwm
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  • [21:28:05] <_av500_> you only need it to boot
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