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  • [04:33:38] <socrat> hi, any idea about ------------> called unimplemented OpenGL ES API ?
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  • [05:36:44] <Bilal_> hello i am facing problem with my network. I have beaglebone black rev c. The ethernet on it just gives 5kb max. varies on my laptop the speed is more than 250kb. I tested BBB on my home network and it was working fien giving abt 100kb but i have to work on project in the office and i am really fed up of this 5kb problem. I want to diagnose the ETHERNET. i tried using ethtool but it doesn;t help much
  • [05:37:46] <Bilal_> I want to check if the eth0 is set to 10mbps or 100 mbps etc etc stuff but how to do that in debian i do not know
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  • [05:45:18] <Bilal_> eth0 output
  • [05:45:25] <Bilal_> i mean ethtool output
  • [05:45:28] <Bilal_> ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off speed 100 duplex full Cannot get current device settings: Operation not supported not setting speed not setting duplex not setting autoneg
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  • [05:45:49] <Bilal_> hope some one will answer the question
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  • [06:00:46] <Bilal_> any body
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  • [06:21:07] <vagrantc> Bilal_: cat /sys/class/net/eth0/speed
  • [06:21:16] <vagrantc> should show you what speed it's negotiated at
  • [06:21:36] <vagrantc> muuunis: no spam please.
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  • [06:26:58] <Bilal_> vagrantc: cat: /sys/class/net/eth0/speed: Invalid argument
  • [06:27:08] <Bilal_> vagrantc: cat /sys/class/net/eth0/speed: Invalid argument
  • [06:27:29] <Bilal_> i can't view the speed file
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  • [06:30:09] <Bilal_> failed to say that i am using DEBIAN WHEEZY (already flashed new version)
  • [06:30:23] <Bilal_> june version (or may)
  • [06:30:32] <Bilal_> Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone50 #1 SMP Tue May 13 13:24:52 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [06:31:03] <Bilal_> i m using the bbb currently so if you need ANY output i can provide
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  • [06:35:01] <vagrantc> Bilal_: ls /sys/class/net/eth0 reveal anyting useful?
  • [06:35:31] <vagrantc> the exact location of the sys files may be different with 3.8.x ... i'm currently looking at a 3.14 install
  • [06:39:22] <vagrantc> Bilal_: gotta head out, good luck! hopefully someone else can help you if you don't figure it out for yourself
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  • [07:38:32] <demeteor> Hello, I think I might have damaged or burned my usb host on bbb. if I use the command lsusb i can see both of the usb appearing on the terminal but it does not power anything up.
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  • [07:40:13] <demeteor> what I did was to connect it to a power source to check the motors and led lights. then removed power. connected the usb camera and tried to turn it on. then this happened. no idea whats going on,. any way to check if its just disabled it self ? or if its trully burned?
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  • [07:45:28] <tbr> demeteor: how do you power the motors?
  • [07:46:41] <demeteor> from ESC that gets power from a battery
  • [07:47:03] <demeteor> I just connected my Android phone and it charges up.
  • [07:48:09] <demeteor> so something else might be wrong ?
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  • [07:52:18] <tbr> I don't know your setup, but if something went seriously wrong you might have actually damaged the USB phy
  • [07:52:33] <tbr> did you try booting a different image?
  • [07:52:48] <demeteor> yes I did
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  • [07:52:50] <demeteor> nothing again
  • [07:53:01] <demeteor> but it gives power output
  • [07:53:02] <sudoertor> demetor, what power do the lights and motor need total?
  • [07:53:13] <demeteor> my phone charges from the BBB usb host right no w
  • [07:54:20] <demeteor> 12v but its external not directly connected to BBB for power. they are conencted to the BBB only to get signal from it
  • [07:55:07] <tbr> I don't know what happened, but it sounds like you damaged the signal pins of your USB port
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  • [07:55:23] <tbr> charging is directly from the 5V rail, so that's independent
  • [07:56:37] <demeteor> how can we check it up? right now it has nothign connected to it
  • [07:56:52] <demeteor> its just a BBB with debian
  • [08:00:33] <tbr> if you have the equipment you could look with a scope at the USB bus to see if anything happens, I guess
  • [08:00:47] <tbr> but it very much sound like it's dead
  • [08:00:59] <tbr> I wonder why
  • [08:01:21] <demeteor> yeah coz how could it. it was irrelevant to what happened there
  • [08:01:41] <demeteor> I mean how could the usb hub die and the BBB be just fine ?
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  • [08:03:33] <tbr> by something happening between whatever you connected and the BBB
  • [08:03:51] <demeteor> I connected a camera
  • [08:03:51] <tbr> e.g. if there was some sort of voltage spike or something else on the bus
  • [08:04:20] <demeteor> when I was about to finish with this thing now I have to wait for a new one -_- lol
  • [08:05:42] <sudoertor> what software can be used to open the beaglebone's schemeatics?
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  • [08:10:15] <Bilal_> Hello again
  • [08:10:33] <sudoertor> hi
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  • [08:12:28] <Bilal_> I want to ask question about eth0 speed (internet) i am getting only 5kb (only on a specific network) and i want to find out what exactly is wrong with the BBB rev c OR the network. So kindly guide on how to identify the problem. I tried ethtool but it doesn't output setting, status of my BBB rev c. I do not know why. Plus mii-tool error out when run, I want to know why is the internet speed so very slow in this network
  • [08:13:12] <Bilal_> mii-tool output
  • [08:13:13] <Bilal_> SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Unknown error 524 no MII interfaces found
  • [08:13:30] <Bilal_> ethtool eth0
  • [08:13:38] <Bilal_> Settings for eth0: Current message level: 0x00000000 (0) Link detected: yes
  • [08:13:42] <tbr> Bilal_: try connecting a different ethernet device to the network
  • [08:14:31] <Bilal_> i didn't get it.. I tried using WIFI dongle it works well... (it is pain in the a** to configure WIFI dongle on THIS SPECIFIC network)
  • [08:15:02] <Bilal_> my pc work gr8 on the network (laptop i mean)
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  • [08:15:54] <tbr> have you tried talking to the network administrator?
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  • [08:16:29] <tbr> have you tried connecting it through a switch to the network?
  • [08:16:37] <woglinde> I would use tcpdump or so to see whats going on
  • [08:18:27] <tbr> that's also a very good point
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  • [08:29:46] <Bilal_> wait i will try tcpdump
  • [08:30:18] <Bilal_> listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes
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  • [08:33:20] <Bilal_> i can't paste it here
  • [08:34:34] <Bilal_> http://pastebin.com/mkDm6R1t
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  • [08:38:24] <cuba> Bilal_: have you checked thge cable?
  • [08:40:23] <Bilal_> http://pastebin.com/5ttfnqZk
  • [08:40:48] <Bilal_> sorry for the pastbin previous link this link contain downloading test dump http://pastebin.com/5ttfnqZk
  • [08:41:04] <Bilal_> what is thge cable ?
  • [08:41:23] <cuba> check the cable, change it it looks like an issue with the connection
  • [08:41:32] <Bilal_> I want to also update all that i was able to use the lan connection on my home network without problem
  • [08:41:48] <Bilal_> but i am having problem in this perticular network (office only)
  • [08:42:03] <Bilal_> at home it was giving me speed of 200kbps (normal)
  • [08:42:31] <Bilal_> well i will try to directly connect the device to the ROUTER of office hold on...
  • [08:43:15] <Bilal_> Also cuba i tested the cable at my home network there is no problem.. i have 3-4 cable right now on the desk...
  • [08:43:26] <Bilal_> but it is not the problem of cable..
  • [08:43:28] <cuba> i had the same issue
  • [08:43:36] <cuba> and it was the physical connection
  • [08:43:49] <Bilal_> tbr: i will check applying directly to the router
  • [08:43:57] <cuba> good luck
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  • [08:49:47] <Bilal_> hmm sorry had to remove the cable (which i was working on) to test the bbb
  • [08:49:57] <Bilal_> will get the ip now w8
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  • [08:51:24] <Bilal_> okay i got the ip
  • [08:51:27] <Bilal_> loging in
  • [08:51:53] <Bilal_> lol
  • [08:51:55] <Bilal_> Problem solved
  • [08:52:04] <Bilal_> I am getting 200kbps
  • [08:52:27] <Bilal_> wget http://speedtest.reliableservers.com/10MBtest.bin
  • [08:52:34] <Bilal_> 100%[==============================================================================>] 10,485,760 695K/s in 17s
  • [08:52:38] <Bilal_> bah
  • [08:52:42] <Bilal_> sorry guys
  • [08:52:54] <Bilal_> and thank you it resolved the issue
  • [08:53:11] <Bilal_> cuba are you there ?
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  • [08:57:12] <woglinde> bad cable?
  • [08:57:20] <woglinde> just for the record
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  • [09:03:38] <freezevee> Hi all... I have flashed the BBB-eMMC-flasher-debian-7.5-2014-05-14-2gb into my BBB and I have an issue with Sleep mode (or hibernate). I can't manage to keep the BBB from shutting down automatically after a short period of inactivity. any ideas ?
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  • [09:15:06] <sirkha> Hi, I am designing a cape that will only need to use a UART line, sometimes, is there a way to do that, from a beaglebone black software perspective?
  • [09:15:47] <sirkha> Hardware wise, it will only be hooked up to the pins when needed
  • [09:16:43] <sirkha> (using an analog switch... MAX4519)
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  • [09:24:23] <av500> sirkha: sure, why not
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  • [09:36:19] <spike_> can emmc be partitioned before the uboot loads at MLO stage ...... ?
  • [09:38:25] <av500> ?
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  • [09:39:54] <spike_> can emmc be partitioned before the uboot loads during a booting process....?
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  • [09:42:46] <av500> sure
  • [09:42:58] <av500> you can write an MLO that does that
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  • [10:30:10] <vmayoral|pc> anyone got experience with PWR button hacking? It seems that i'm experiencing http://bugs.elinux.org/issues/85
  • [10:30:18] <vmayoral|pc> any suggestion on how to disable automatic shutdown?
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  • [11:04:31] <varad> Is the BBB RAM connected to CPU through OCMC or GPMC? I'm confused between whether to use the GPMC address (0x0) or the Public RAM Address mentioned in the AM335x TRM.
  • [11:06:58] <varad> (I'm working in the initialization phase of the CPU)
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  • [11:09:11] <tbr> you could take a look at the design files
  • [11:09:18] <tbr> that would answer such questions
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  • [11:10:28] <jacekowski> varad: GPMC
  • [11:10:37] <jacekowski> varad: OCMC is for builtin SRAM
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  • [11:24:11] <eballetbo> Is the BlueSteel Basic board available to buy somewhere ?
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  • [11:52:17] <jkridner> I managed to buy one...
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  • [11:53:24] <jkridner> I was VERY disappointed to see it ship in a BeagleBone Black box.
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  • [11:54:07] <jkridner> That should be completely ignored.
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  • [11:54:53] <jkridner> I also found I couldn't power it off of USB for some reason, but I didn't investigate. Seems to be something with the current drawn at boot.
  • [11:55:22] <jkridner> Otherwise, it is pretty nice, running BeagleBone Black code and not having eMMC/HDMI pins loaded.
  • [11:56:24] <jkridner> I bought it from http://www.boardzoo.com/index.php/bluesteel/bluesteel-basic.html
  • [11:56:31] <jkridner> which seems to be a broken link now.
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  • [13:10:15] <jkridner> eballetbo: http://specialcomp.com/beaglebone/ has the new purchase link
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  • [13:12:09] <eballetbo> jkridner: thanks
  • [13:12:34] <eballetbo> but looks like is only a pre-order, out of stock :(
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  • [13:14:38] <jkridner> boardzoo said preorder when I ordered, but it got here within a few days
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  • [13:31:17] <luastoned> hey, so I tried to create loop in c++ that executes ~5k times per second (works quite nice with nanosleep) .. now when I try to increase that to 10k it works, but anything beyond that just does not happen.. it seems like once I use nanosleep I can't get more than 10k , are there any alternate timers on the bbb that I could use for this?
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  • [13:49:25] <tbr> luastoned: why would you need that?
  • [13:50:10] <luastoned> i need to read from a buffer and output at that rate (via spi)
  • [13:51:30] <Letothe2nd> didn't i suggest weeks ago to just have an IIO driver do that?
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  • [13:51:44] <Letothe2nd> and then read bulked into userspace instead of small burps.
  • [13:52:03] <luastoned> not sure, I just got into setting up the bbb and experimenting with it
  • [13:52:09] <tbr> *burp*
  • [13:52:16] <Letothe2nd> then read up and experiment with IIO :)
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  • [13:56:42] <luastoned> mhm, the main goal is to drive my rgb laser via a custom dac, the dac should get data from 10k to 30k times / sec via spi..
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  • [13:57:20] <Letothe2nd> luastoned: ok, so what was this supposed to tell me?
  • [13:57:51] <luastoned> no idea, im just not very familiar with low level io
  • [13:58:38] <Letothe2nd> luastoned: you are trying to bang bytes one after the other directly... theres not much more low level
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  • [13:59:49] <luastoned> well, I got that part figured out (I can access the dac), I just need to create a steady tigger
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  • [14:00:45] <Letothe2nd> still i think you are wasting time and going wrong.
  • [14:01:00] <Letothe2nd> the iio subsystem was designed to do exactly what you are trying to archieve
  • [14:01:01] <Letothe2nd> http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git/tree/drivers/staging/iio/Documentation?id=refs/heads/staging-next
  • [14:01:31] <Letothe2nd> or more precisely, read at least the top 20 lines of http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git/tree/drivers/staging/iio/Documentation/overview.txt?id=refs/heads/staging-next
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  • [14:03:25] <luastoned> It sounds like exactly what I need, I'll try to find some sample code .
  • [14:03:50] <Letothe2nd> QED
  • [14:04:15] <Letothe2nd> there are even readymade drivers in the kernel for inspiration.
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  • [14:07:53] <luastoned> could you link me to one of those?
  • [14:09:16] <Letothe2nd> hmmm are you actually willing to put in own effort?
  • [14:09:20] <Letothe2nd> *sigh*
  • [14:09:28] <Letothe2nd> but hey, i'm having a good five minutes
  • [14:09:28] <Letothe2nd> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/iio/dac/
  • [14:10:13] <Letothe2nd> even spi-types already there, just a small step to whack them into whatever form needed.
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  • [14:13:59] <luastoned> okay, thanks for the help. I'll try to fight my way through those files!
  • [14:14:35] <Letothe2nd> just prick whatever resembles your hardware most and then beat it into shape
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  • [14:17:19] <josh_> why does my beaglebone come up as an uknknown device on my windows 7 compuyter?
  • [14:17:36] <jkridner> the ROM bootloader is one device...
  • [14:17:52] <jkridner> then you need to install the drivers for the other devices after it boots.
  • [14:18:01] <jkridner> did you run the driver installer?
  • [14:18:05] <luastoned> Letothe2nd I have two 12bit chips and one 16bit
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  • [14:18:12] <josh_> i did
  • [14:18:24] <josh_> it however wasnt recognized as a usb device
  • [14:18:28] <jkridner> http://github.com/jadonk/beaglebone-getting-started has newly signed drivers.
  • [14:18:29] <josh_> and the drivers couldnt install
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  • [14:18:38] <jkridner> josh_: hmmm... did the board finish booting?
  • [14:19:04] <jkridner> if it doesn't finish booting, the bootloader will show up as a device and I haven't shipped any drivers for that.
  • [14:19:14] <jkridner> do you have the heartbeat LED?
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  • [14:19:20] <Letothe2nd> luastoned: thats pretty much a no-information.
  • [14:19:41] <Letothe2nd> luastoned: rather look at their datasheets, if one of their related parts is already supported
  • [14:19:48] <josh_> im fairly sure..all the blue lights came on, it said the drivers couldnt install thoug, then i tried the drivers from the site, and yes i did have the heartbeat, and under other/unknown devices it sys BEagleBoneBlack
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  • [14:20:31] <luastoned> Letothe2nd tbh all of this is pretty new to me, I never did anything that close to hardware and I'm just getting started..
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  • [14:23:12] <jkridner> josh_: you should end up with a networking device, a USB flash device and a serial device, as well as a composite device encompassing those. there is possibility of an unknown device (the bootloader), but it should go away shortly after booting.
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  • [14:23:42] <jkridner> I could provide a driver for the bootloader to give it an identifier, but until the USB boot utility is finished, it wouldn't really do anything.
  • [14:23:49] <josh_> ok i will uninstall whatever it has right now and replug it in ill update in a minute
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  • [14:27:07] <Letothe2nd> luastoned: well reading a datasheet you obviously can , otherwise you would not have been able to pipe out the bytes manually
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  • [14:28:52] <luastoned> Letothe2nd yeah sure, what I don't understand though is how this iio driver is supposed to help me create the 10k/sec loop
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  • [14:31:03] <Letothe2nd> luastoned: you just create 10k values once a second and then have iio pipe them out
  • [14:31:17] <luastoned> at a steady interval?
  • [14:31:42] <luastoned> that's the only real restriction I have..
  • [14:32:07] <Letothe2nd> thats what its meant for
  • [14:32:18] <Letothe2nd> really, you need to show a little more own effort in reading
  • [14:32:22] <luastoned> Gotcha
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  • [15:05:36] <josh_> jkridner: it said that it couldnt install the device drivers, now it is under other devices in my device manager as BeagleBoneBlack
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  • [15:13:12] <jkridner> you should try the signed drivers at https://github.com/jadonk/beaglebone-getting-started/releases/tag/1.0.1 and let me know how it goes
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  • [15:14:46] <josh_> ill try it
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  • [16:12:46] <Josh> jkridner: installed the drivers...didnt work
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  • [16:13:02] <Guest39287> its josh
  • [16:13:09] <jkridner> can you connect to the board using your browser?
  • [16:13:42] <Guest39287> 192.168.7.2?
  • [16:13:46] <jkridner> can you give some more details on what exactly you are trying and what exactly didn't work.
  • [16:13:57] <jkridner> typically, yes, that'd be the address.
  • [16:14:13] <Guest39287> i plugged it in, installed your drivers, it said the drivers were good and it still doesnt show up as a usb device and only an other device
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  • [16:14:49] <jkridner> it shows up as a drive on your computer, right?
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  • [16:15:34] <Guest39287> no it doenst
  • [16:15:34] <jkridner> can you click the START.htm
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  • [16:16:10] <Guest39287> in the bone or on my windows?
  • [16:16:56] <m_billybob> windows update . . .
  • [16:17:02] <m_billybob> do it NOW
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  • [16:25:31] <Guest39287> im up to date :(
  • [16:25:38] <Guest39287> ill just go to ubuntu...
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  • [16:32:44] <xro|> hi, has anybody tried pypruss recently ?
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  • [17:23:53] <xro|> or rather: what do I need to change (do i need to change anything) in the device tree to enable the PRUs
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  • [17:56:00] <xro|> found it : pruss needs to be set to status = "okay";
  • [17:56:10] <xro|> in boneblack.dts
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  • [18:10:01] <jkridner> m_billybob: appreciate if you can avoid trolling newbs.
  • [18:10:22] <jkridner> m_billybob: I understand the temptation.
  • [18:13:58] <m_billybob> eh ?
  • [18:14:16] <m_billybob> THat wasnt a troll that was a fact
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  • [18:15:15] <m_billybob> either that or walk him through step by step on how to install the Windows NDIS driver. . .
  • [18:15:38] <m_billybob> MSUpdates will do it automatically.
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  • [19:02:09] <jbdatko> Can the BBB act as an I2C slave, or is it master only?
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  • [19:05:19] * jbdatko thinks master only, because I'm not sure of I2C slave support in the SoC kernel driver, which would provide the slave capability. But I'm not sure.
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  • [19:46:44] <jkridner> m_billybob: sorry for the accusation.
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  • [19:50:33] <ds2> home to many trolls
  • [19:53:49] * spikebike digs for info on the beagle board and any of the SHA enabled ibuttons DS1961S, DS1963S, and DS2432
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  • [20:11:52] <_av500_> one could bitbang an I2C slave with the PRUs
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  • [20:21:49] <m_billybob2> jkridner, not problem. Seems to be a trend on the groups that lots of people are having this issue and the last two who solved it, thats what they've done.
  • [20:22:50] <m_billybob2> jkridner, I think one solved it manually by installing the drivers himself after reading a kb article but meh was too early in the morning for me to go through all that
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  • [20:27:14] <m_billybob> jkridner, is there a FAQ page linked off beaglboard.org ? That might be a candadite for such a page
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  • [20:39:39] <jkridner> The wiki has the FAQ... http://elinux.org/BeagleBone
  • [20:57:46] <m_billybob> jkridner, not very visable from that link, atleast I was unable to find much in the way of a FAQ page for the BBB.FOrtunately for me, I need no such resource, but im fairly advanced.
  • [20:59:18] <xenoxaos> m_billybob: is this dave?
  • [20:59:41] <m_billybob> no
  • [20:59:54] <__butch__1> Dave's not here, man. :-)
  • [21:00:02] <m_billybob> heh
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  • [21:00:37] <m_billybob> good ole cheech and chong
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  • [21:00:49] <__butch__1> I was hoping somebody would get the reference. :-)
  • [21:01:02] <xenoxaos> hehe
  • [21:01:14] <xenoxaos> i havent seen any cheech and chong in forever
  • [21:01:45] <m_billybob> same, but who that grew up in the 70's-80's could forget that album lol
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  • [21:07:36] <plaw> stop, dave. please stop. my mind is going. i'm afraid, dave.
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  • [21:09:00] <ds2> it is not that hard... I done it before for the SPI stuff
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  • [21:29:51] <m_billybob> ds2, is ldd still the authoritive resource on that subject ( devie drivers in linux ) ?
  • [21:30:17] <m_billybob> I've never written one to date myself
  • [21:30:30] <m_billybob> have a hadcopy of LDD though
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  • [21:40:59] <ds2> the only authoritative resource is the kernel itself.
  • [21:41:15] <ds2> anything else is hearsay
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