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  • [01:08:15] <sirkha> I am thinking of writing a highly interactive cape browser in RoR, would there be any interest?
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  • [01:11:40] <thurgood> why rails?
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  • [01:14:05] <sirkha> Mostly because I haven't written anything in it in a while, and the last time I did, I found it enjoyable
  • [01:14:37] <thurgood> fair enough
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  • [01:21:46] <nyt-> cape browser?
  • [01:21:47] <nyt-> whats that
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  • [01:32:37] <sirkha> basically a database for capes (not just a bunch of wiki pages) it would allow you to select your board and up to four capes, in a compatible fashion, in addition to giving you the information that is already out on the wiki, like links to schematics and places to buy the capes
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  • [05:55:48] <dgirsh> Any ideas how to get into a BBB that doesn't let me ssh, without using a direct keyboard connection? I've successfully ssh'ed in when running Angstrom and Ubuntu on the internal memory, but Debian booting off of SD rejects the ssh connection for some reason. Is serial-over-USB an option? Running Debian on my desktop (in case it matters). Any help is greatly appreciated!
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  • [05:57:45] <dgirsh> To clarify, I know it can be fixed by using a keyboard directly once, but I would need to buy one. Wanted to see if there were other options first.
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  • [06:39:36] <shay_shay> hay
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  • [07:06:31] <_av500_> dgirsh: stock debian?
  • [07:06:36] <_av500_> ssh over ethernet?
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  • [07:11:42] <dgirsh> _av500_: im using the wheezy image from here: http://www.armhf.com/boards/beaglebone-black/
  • [07:12:28] <dgirsh> _av500_: pretty sure it's stock. i've tried ssh over both ethernet and usb. ethernet says connection refused. usb hangs.
  • [07:13:25] <_av500_> why not use the sw from the beaglebone site: http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
  • [07:13:33] <_av500_> I have no idea who and what armhf is
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  • [07:16:48] <dgirsh> i'll give that a try, thanks. looks like lazily googling for a non-eMMC flash version led me astray. didn't realize there was one on the beaglebone site.
  • [07:17:06] <_av500_> yes, its cleverly hidden, I agree
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  • [07:25:04] <dgirsh> any ideas how to flash the bootable image with linux? the official instructions are windows only. armhf has instructions for their images which involve manually making boot/data partitions and downloading a separate uboot image. my gut says that there's a simpler way for the official debian image...
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  • [07:25:46] <dgirsh> is it as simple as: dd if=debian.img of=/dev/<sd_card_id> bs=4M ?
  • [07:25:58] <vvu> dgirsh: yes
  • [07:26:55] <dgirsh> vvu: awesome, thanks.
  • [07:27:03] <dgirsh> wish i went here earlier... wasted a lot of time yesterday :)
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  • [07:45:39] <yas> Hi, I am a newbie ..... looking for beagleboard xM capes for my centre
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  • [12:28:33] <mmarker> Is this a good place to talk about kernel issues on the beagle? Wondering about a bug in my kernel logs pertaining to the omap-aes driver and DMA.
  • [12:30:30] <av500> ask
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  • [12:35:14] <mmarker> Simply put, get the following error. http://pastie.org/9322808
  • [12:35:21] <thurgood> is rcn-ee's 3.13 kernel for ubuntu safe with the latest debian images? or should I change completely to ubuntu on the bbb?
  • [12:36:03] <thurgood> mmarker, have you tried it without dma
  • [12:36:12] <mmarker> Reading the code, it looks like I can simply modify the device tree file to add DMA. But I don't know if things will blow up, and assuming someone who knows about omap3 did it deliberately.
  • [12:36:36] <thurgood> I know people were having trouble with usb transfers with dma enabled
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  • [12:42:31] <av500> thurgood: why not use the kernel from the BBB debian image?
  • [12:42:54] <thurgood> gles support is required
  • [12:43:16] <av500> mmarker: so beagle XM?
  • [12:44:06] <thurgood> I'm not a version chaser, just need that feature
  • [12:44:37] <av500> mmarker: sorry, no idea
  • [12:44:48] <av500> you might try the linux-omap mailing list
  • [12:45:24] <av500> or wait for NishanthMenon here
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  • [12:45:39] <mmarker> Need to get a testing module. Probably not bad either, reading the code looks like it kicks into PIO mode. Slow, but doable I think...
  • [12:47:33] <mmarker> Also have a divide by zero error in the kernel at boot on 3.14 and 3.15 - looks cosmetic, but need to track it down.
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  • [14:45:46] <dogrocket> im having problem mounting flash drive on beaglebone, its not showing as mounted, but device is detected, anyone have any ideas?
  • [14:49:47] <thurgood> 1) do you have it configured to automount
  • [14:50:05] <thurgood> 2) have you tried mounting it manually?
  • [14:50:20] <thurgood> 3) what format is the drive?
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  • [14:54:23] <dogrocket> ok, im able to get it to mount, but every time i unplug and replug it, its not automounting, in fact if changed its dev from /dev/sda1 to /dev/sdb1
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  • [14:59:05] <thurgood> need to let it settle a little after unplugging before plugging back in probably
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  • [15:07:58] <thurgood> then you can add a rule to automount in /etc/fsbtab
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  • [15:24:49] <kinkazu> Hi all
  • [15:24:57] <kinkazu> Can I use BBB black in commercial project?
  • [15:25:08] <kinkazu> is there any limitation in how many of them I can buy?
  • [15:25:10] <kinkazu> :D
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  • [15:25:47] <kinkazu> it's nice that irc channel is running for this board
  • [15:25:59] <kinkazu> unless it is a quiet one
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  • [15:27:59] <vagrantc> kinkazu: there are limits in how many you can buy, but it's open hardware, so you could get someone else to manufacture compatible boards...
  • [15:28:27] <kinkazu> thanks for the answer vagrantc
  • [15:28:46] <kinkazu> hmm, it would cost probably more
  • [15:28:50] <kinkazu> to have it manufactured
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  • [15:29:14] <kinkazu> and the manufacturing process of bbb presented on youtube is so professional
  • [15:29:41] <kinkazu> vagrantc: do you know what the limits are?
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  • [15:30:09] <vagrantc> kinkazu: not off the top of my head, and i haven't found the specific information after a quick search
  • [15:30:23] <kinkazu> interesting
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  • [15:30:50] <vagrantc> but i've definitely run across it at some point
  • [15:31:11] <kinkazu> yes, I have seen somewhere that there are some limits
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  • [15:31:30] <kinkazu> but couldn't find anything about this when I tried to find more info
  • [15:32:03] <kinkazu> I am almost sure i read somewhere that becouse it is educational device, there are some limits applied
  • [15:32:05] <vagrantc> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#Terms_of_Use
  • [15:32:10] <kinkazu> somewhere, not on BBB website
  • [15:32:24] <kinkazu> thanks for that
  • [15:32:27] <kinkazu> will read through
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  • [15:34:37] <kinkazu> ow, this explains everything, limits might be, but don't have to be applied, te bigegst problem I think is that they can change design at any time
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  • [15:34:53] <kinkazu> hmm
  • [15:35:13] <vagrantc> my hunch is it won't be changing much any time soon
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  • [15:35:30] <vagrantc> just came out with a big upgrade, and the only difference was a larger eMMC
  • [15:35:30] <kinkazu> yes, might be worth to take a risk
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  • [15:35:42] <kinkazu> last change from B to C is only memory size
  • [15:35:51] <kinkazu> which is better
  • [15:35:58] <kinkazu> for me
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  • [15:36:30] <kinkazu> I will ask guy mentioned in link you provided
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  • [15:37:43] <kinkazu> thank you very much vagrantc
  • [15:37:52] <kinkazu> i will be visiting this channel more often
  • [15:38:13] <kinkazu> have got some problems and I am trying to fight them alone
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  • [16:32:20] <Jonnyw2k> Anyone ordered an emfest bbb from china?
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  • [16:33:40] <_av500_> embest
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  • [16:37:37] <Jonnyw2k> Indeed, my bad, wondering which is quicker order through normal channels, or use some backstreet chinese company.
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  • [16:51:30] <Squando> I have installed the RTC backup battery in my Beagle XM but I believe I have to enable its use and charging by configuring the TPS65950 module. Can anyone here help my achieve this in an Angstrom environment?
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  • [17:28:52] <victor_> hello
  • [17:28:58] <_av500_> world
  • [17:29:32] <victor_> do any person here had problems with beagleboard-xm?
  • [17:29:43] <victor_> I am with some problem related with nand memory
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  • [17:31:52] <_av500_> what problem?
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  • [17:38:10] <victor_> u-boot dont do a full load, it stucks on DRAM: 512mb
  • [17:38:50] <victor_> seems like it can not detect the nand memory, or something related
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  • [17:39:27] <victor_> this board is a beaglebone-xm rev B
  • [17:39:51] <victor_> i tested the same sd-card in a brand-new beagleboard-xm rev C and it works with no problem
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  • [17:44:54] <victor_> nobody with a problem like this?
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  • [17:47:17] <agmlego> victor_: A couple of things: 1. Patience is a virtue, and especially when asking for help from a volunteer channel. 2. More details on the problem, including and especially actual boot logs (in a pastebin, thanks) and other information. RIght now, we have little to nothing to go on.
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  • [19:03:02] <jeremyagost> hey, so I accidentally fat-fingered my static IP configuration with connman on an angstrom BB-black
  • [19:03:21] <jeremyagost> what do I do now? I don’t have a serial adapter and these boards evidently don’t have one built inb
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  • [19:13:56] <thurgood> plug in with ethernet and check the ip on the router?
  • [19:14:35] <thurgood> assuming you don't have the micro hdmi cable or ftbi cable?
  • [19:15:05] <thurgood> *ftdi
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  • [19:37:00] <jeremyagost> it’s definitely in static mode
  • [19:37:29] <thurgood> have you looked at /etc/network/interfaces ?
  • [19:38:33] <jeremyagost> I have no remote access
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  • [19:39:13] <jeremyagost> I guess I’ll have to find a serial cable
  • [19:39:26] <jeremyagost> pity theres no built-in adapter anymore
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  • [19:49:09] <mistawright> hey guys i have this hbridge, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-H-Bridge-DC-Stepper-Motor-Drive-Controller-Board-Module-for-Arduino-L298N-/291099876169?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43c6e79b49 and want to control motors using my beaglebone black and c/c++
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  • [19:49:34] <mistawright> should i be able to use this controller board without a logic level converter?
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  • [20:11:40] <q_p> How can I use BBB with a battery ?
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  • [20:28:29] <foreverska> battery to the power pins?
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  • [20:58:20] <q_p> I want to use BBB only with a battery
  • [20:58:48] <q_p> not connect to a outlet or computer
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  • [21:05:53] <foreverska> ...
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  • [21:15:04] <Jonnyw2k> So chinese Embest boards, yey or ney?
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  • [21:19:41] <Orby917> I'm trying to install arch on my BBB, all is well, but for the line of me I can't seem to get the usb g_ether network acting as a gateway to the outside world
  • [21:19:50] <Orby917> I've enabled g_ether, and the usb0 interface comes up consistently
  • [21:20:05] <Orby917> then I log in through the serial debug on the BBB, and this is my startup sequence
  • [21:20:12] <Orby917> ip link set usb0 up
  • [21:20:12] <Orby917> ip addr add 192.168.7.1 dev usb0
  • [21:20:12] <Orby917> ip route add default via 192.168.7.1
  • [21:20:12] <Orby917> route add default gw 192.168.7.1
  • [21:20:25] <Orby917> anyone see what I'm missing?
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  • [21:55:18] <KaaK> Orby917, the USB host that you're plugging your BBB into needs to be doing IP forwarding to allow the BBB to get access to the internet. Additionally, your BBB's default gw should be your computer, not itself
  • [21:55:59] <KaaK> To get internet over USB to your BBB will be something of a setup, I'd very much recommend just wiring it in to your home network over ethernet
  • [21:56:03] <Orby917> ah, so the route should be: ip route add default via 192.168.1.120 for example?
  • [21:57:01] <improvnerd> KaaK: I agree, but I’d love to see detailed, repeatable instructions for doing USB internet with a Mac, just to verify that it _can_ be done.
  • [21:57:02] <Orby917> KaaK: I'd love to do that, but the BBB's ether is being removed to fit a custom Cape on there, so I don't have that as an option
  • [21:57:09] <KaaK> Orby917, its a rather complicated setup to achieve. You're going to have much fewer headaches going over ethernet and getting on to your home network like that
  • [21:57:19] <KaaK> Orby917, ahh
  • [21:57:32] <Orby917> Perhaps I'd do better to buy a usb - ethernet dongle?
  • [21:57:37] <Orby917> I still have the host side usb
  • [21:57:52] <improvnerd> Orby917: I burned too many hours trying to get USB internet working.
  • [21:57:59] <KaaK> that will be much easier to set up
  • [21:58:14] <Orby917> improvnerd: I'm in the same place right now =(
  • [21:59:09] <improvnerd> Orby917: How about moving the ethernet jack off board. Solder some wires to the board, and some wires to the jack?
  • [21:59:44] <Orby917> I could do that for testing, but in production the plastics don't allow for that, and I need to have easy access to ~400 of units
  • [21:59:48] <KaaK> I'd love to walk you through it, but really, it is quite involved. You're USB host (i.e. the computer you're plugging your BBB in to) will have to be configured to forward IP packets between the USB ethernet device, and its NIC.
  • [21:59:59] <KaaK> Basically your computer will have to be a NAT router
  • [22:00:21] <Orby917> KaaK: I think I've got that figured out with this link: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internet_sharing
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  • [22:01:24] <KaaK> Orby917, that is exactly what you need to do.
  • [22:03:00] <Orby917> Okay call, we'll I'll mess around with the routes
  • [22:03:08] <Orby917> okay cool.. I ment
  • [22:03:38] <KaaK> Orby917, if you're really looking to do this over 400 units, you're likely going to want to set up a DHCP server on your desktop to hand out address and routing info to your connected BBB. Dnsmasq would probably server you just fine in that regard
  • [22:03:56] <Orby917> How does the default BBB automically setup the IP address on the linux host?
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  • [22:05:02] <KaaK> I know that by default the BBB is the one running the DHCP server, so you will need to kill that (it is also dnsmasq). Just get one BBB set up the way you'd like (replacing the DHCP server with a client on the usb interface) and then use that image on the rest of the boards
  • [22:05:08] <Orby917> KaaK: Good to hear, I've ran dnsmasq before for a different setup, so I'll stick with that
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  • [22:05:29] <Orby917> Good advice, okay I'll try that
  • [22:05:37] <Orby917> Thanks a bunch guys, if I have another question I'll ask
  • [22:05:42] <Orby917> I really appreciate your time
  • [22:05:48] <KaaK> Orby917, best of luck
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  • [22:10:20] <KaaK> improvnerd, It can be done. I run similar setup centered around a raspberry pi and a large power usb hub. The pi is setup as a nat router, and ethernet bridge (for all the usb ethernet devices) and provides internet to the BBBs over USB from the upstream network the PI is connected to
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