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  • [05:46:15] <Razor_Kickass> hai guys need some help i have a GY-521 (MPU6050 Module) and i am not able to read the values of x,y,z of accelerometer or x,y,z of gyroscope .... whenever i move the module to see if the register values are changing ,it is still same.....
  • [05:46:36] <Razor_Kickass> i am running Angstrom OS in my BBB
  • [05:47:25] <Razor_Kickass> and i used the command "i2cdump -y 1 0x68
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  • [10:06:20] <magi> besides coding my own
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  • [13:21:49] <jdev> :)
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  • [13:24:01] <das> https://www.google.com/patents/US6830455
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  • [14:44:14] <pwillard> silly patents.
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  • [16:34:17] <BeagleGithub> [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.12: http://git.io/Y1Ib6g
  • [16:34:18] <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.12 5acc45a Robert Nelson: 3.12: update to v3.12.6...
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  • [16:39:24] <das> (cast)(cast)struct->member
  • [16:39:25] <das> gaaah
  • [16:39:54] <das> if that's within 10 lines of the file, should I keep reading ?
  • [16:41:25] <florian> heh
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  • [17:00:00] <BeagleGithub> [kernel] RobertCNelson pushed 1 new commit to 3.8: http://git.io/tH4WRQ
  • [17:00:01] <BeagleGithub> kernel/3.8 9a349c4 Robert Nelson: 3.8: add network fix from: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/beagleboard/mfQwHdfHyoo/SA9EnjpXoAsJ...
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  • [17:05:02] <Prat> Hi all..
  • [17:05:56] <stt_michael> can anyone give me some hints on the TI lcdc module?
  • [17:06:07] <stt_michael> think I need to change some kernel parameters around
  • [17:06:08] <Prat> I am using RS232 cape for BBB, when i connect it to board and boot it. at boot time my slots are enabled
  • [17:06:33] <stt_michael> flow control ?! :)
  • [17:06:55] <Prat> i have ensured that clock and pin mux for UART2 (ttyO2) is correct but i can not commnucaicate using a loo-back
  • [17:07:01] <Prat> *loopback
  • [17:07:22] <Prat> Checked that as well, no HW Flow control is enabled
  • [17:07:24] <stt_michael> how are you connecting to the port?
  • [17:07:29] <Prat> any other thought?
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  • [17:07:54] <stt_michael> if you're accessing it direct .. did you stty to set it up? do you have correct permissions to access the port?
  • [17:08:45] <Prat> yes, i am root. Actually i have done a loopback on BBB's Header and tried i loopback, it works but when i mount cape.then it doesn't work
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  • [17:09:13] <stt_michael> the board header or the cape?
  • [17:09:20] <Prat> using a wire
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  • [17:09:49] <stt_michael> which port - the beagle debug header or the cape port?
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  • [17:09:55] <Prat> not accessing directly, using minicom
  • [17:11:04] <stt_michael> restarted minicom to affect the port change?
  • [17:11:11] <stt_michael> (its weird like that)
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  • [17:11:27] <Prat> cape RS232 doesn't work, w/o cape BBB's P9.21 & P9.22 that wors
  • [17:11:34] <Prat> *works
  • [17:11:57] <Prat> The Cape doesn't work!!
  • [17:12:04] <stt_michael> d'oh
  • [17:12:09] <stt_michael> so the uart is fine ..
  • [17:12:17] <Prat> Yes.
  • [17:12:38] <Prat> I can assure that!!
  • [17:12:42] <stt_michael> checkde cape jumpers :)
  • [17:12:52] <Prat> Yes, UART2
  • [17:13:08] <Prat> why restart minicom by the way??
  • [17:13:23] <Prat> would that really matter?
  • [17:13:38] <stt_michael> I find because it initialises the port on startup .. I'm not convinced it closes/re-opens the ports
  • [17:13:55] <stt_michael> I always specify them manually on the command-line now ... minicom -d /dev/tty???
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  • [17:14:29] <Prat> but then minicom has HW Flow control enabled by default.
  • [17:14:41] <Prat> Change is seperately??
  • [17:14:46] <stt_michael> ah I must have fudged that too :)
  • [17:15:14] <stt_michael> but if you've proved the uart out fine .. its something ont he board itself
  • [17:15:44] <Prat> you mean cape??
  • [17:15:53] <stt_michael> yes
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  • [17:16:42] <Prat> I have tried UART4 on that as well but that didn't work as well.
  • [17:16:56] <Prat> Any chance that trying UART1 might work??
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  • [17:17:17] <stt_michael> I think uart1 is the debug port .. so you can try that ..
  • [17:17:43] <stt_michael> probably won't be able to get full access to it though
  • [17:17:57] <Prat> Nope. I mean ttyO1, debug port is ttyO0!! right?
  • [17:18:10] <vvu|Log> anybody has an Angstrom image that can be flashed directly on the eMMC ?
  • [17:18:39] <stt_michael> http://beagleboard.org/latest-images
  • [17:18:57] <stt_michael> hmm .. let me refresh ..t oo many uarts on that board
  • [17:19:09] <Prat> yeah. :)
  • [17:19:15] <vvu|Log> i don't want the eMMC flasher
  • [17:19:16] <stt_michael> I'm using uart4 :D
  • [17:19:27] <vvu|Log> an image that can be directly flashed on the BBB without the uSD
  • [17:19:42] <stt_michael> how do you propose getting it onto the emmc?? :)
  • [17:19:47] <av500> usb boot
  • [17:19:47] <stt_michael> without a uSD?
  • [17:19:51] <av500> serial boot
  • [17:19:52] <vvu|Log> https://github.com/ungureanuvladvictor/BBBlfs
  • [17:19:53] <av500> and
  • [17:19:55] <av500> magic
  • [17:20:07] <stt_michael> heh magic .. I'm clean outta that.
  • [17:20:09] <av500> vvu|Log: you still limited by ramdisk size?
  • [17:20:13] <vvu|Log> yep
  • [17:20:18] <vvu|Log> did not do more work on the project
  • [17:20:23] <av500> well, the stock images take like 2gb, no?
  • [17:20:28] <stt_michael> or 4
  • [17:20:41] <av500> so even if you had one for emmc, how would you flash it?
  • [17:20:47] <vvu|Log> in .xz format is less than 512mb
  • [17:20:52] <av500> oh
  • [17:20:54] <av500> ok
  • [17:20:55] <vvu|Log> i think koen gave me one
  • [17:21:07] <vvu|Log> lemme search for the link, had it in the BeagleDroid sources
  • [17:21:19] <Prat> @<stt_michael> You mean UART4 on cape??
  • [17:21:39] <Prat> which device node /ttyO4??
  • [17:22:00] <stt_michael> on the pins .. we have an external TTL->RS232 converter chip .. like the cape
  • [17:22:04] <vvu|Log> found it! http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.09.10.eMMC.img.xz
  • [17:22:29] <stt_michael> wooops .. sorry Prat .. yes mine is using UART2
  • [17:22:57] <stt_michael> I have a kernel option to manually force the cape 'on'
  • [17:23:05] <stt_michael> err .. Load the cape
  • [17:23:07] <av500> vvu|Log: that is ancient
  • [17:23:10] <av500> :)
  • [17:23:21] <vvu|Log> yeah i know...but i need one just to access some pwms and stuff
  • [17:23:24] <stt_michael> embedded development frequently is.
  • [17:23:25] <vvu|Log> nothin fancy
  • [17:23:31] <stt_michael> Ancient, that is
  • [17:23:34] <Prat> do you use uEnv.txt for that??
  • [17:23:37] <stt_michael> yes
  • [17:23:48] <stt_michael> givin me a headache with HDMI/LVDS currently
  • [17:24:20] <stt_michael> Prat: if you do a 'dmesg' you should see it identify and load the pinmux for the UART by the cape-manager
  • [17:24:39] <stt_michael> that proves the EEPROM on the cape works
  • [17:24:42] <Prat> yes, it does.
  • [17:25:09] <Prat> there is no error. My slot#1 is okay, as it has to be for BB-BONE_SERL-03
  • [17:25:48] <Prat> kernel wouldn't load it unless it detected cape on board!! Am i right?
  • [17:26:12] <stt_michael> not strictly true :)
  • [17:26:31] <Prat> can't show the dmesg o/p. do not have cape on or BBB up.
  • [17:26:53] <Prat> Then what do you suggest?
  • [17:27:10] <stt_michael> sounds a bit like toasted cape .. but I find that hard to believe
  • [17:27:17] <Prat> to ensure that EEPROM on cape works..
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  • [17:28:12] <Prat> Infact i tried two different capes. both of them do not work. that is why i doubt, its SM wrong with firmware.
  • [17:28:59] <stt_michael> if the uart signals are present fine on the P8/9 header ..
  • [17:29:11] <stt_michael> you're just linking through pins 2/3 on the serial port, yes?
  • [17:29:19] <stt_michael> the DB9 connector?
  • [17:29:22] <Prat> yes
  • [17:29:27] <Prat> that is correct.
  • [17:30:16] <stt_michael> it works with a jumper from P8#21-22
  • [17:30:44] <Prat> nope ..its P9#21-22
  • [17:31:06] <stt_michael> oops my bad
  • [17:31:20] <Prat> :)
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  • [17:31:31] <stt_michael> yeah those are the pins I'm using fine
  • [17:32:13] <stt_michael> the only difference between the cape and my board .. is the physical chip :)
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  • [17:33:20] <Prat> I remember there are two switches on Cape, i think those are used for addressing EEPROM on I2C bus.
  • [17:33:39] <stt_michael> yes - to avoid conflicts when you stack capes
  • [17:33:57] <Prat> Can that be problem?
  • [17:34:26] <stt_michael> when multiple peripherals try to access the same pins/resources, yes .. but more-so if two EEPROMs try to reply when configured :)
  • [17:34:41] <Prat> but as far as i understand the concept of capes, it is just two load the overlay automatically, otherwise no other SW configuration is needed for it.
  • [17:34:44] <Prat> am i right?
  • [17:35:26] <stt_michael> the cape manager manages the pin multiplexes .. and takes away user configuration
  • [17:35:33] <stt_michael> thats the principle
  • [17:35:51] <Prat> i mean for UART2 to work, no other SW configuration is needed.
  • [17:36:19] <stt_michael> no. But you've proven the port works with a link on P9
  • [17:36:31] <Prat> so, Any suggestions?? :)
  • [17:36:41] <Prat> yes that is correct.
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  • [17:37:07] <stt_michael> if you can see a signal (voltmeter or oscilloscope) on the P9 pins with the cape plugged in .. and signals on the output ...
  • [17:37:15] <stt_michael> somehow your signal is getting "lost"
  • [17:38:02] <Prat> you mean the RS232??
  • [17:38:04] <Prat> DB9
  • [17:38:05] <stt_michael> I'm inclined to say its an electrical problem rather than a software one
  • [17:38:20] <Prat> hmmm.
  • [17:38:48] <Prat> Yeah let me use a scope and see the output.
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  • [17:38:58] <Prat> Thanks for the help.. :)
  • [17:39:02] <stt_michael> welcome
  • [17:39:23] <Prat> @<stt_michael>
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  • [17:58:57] <bunsen> I am have trouble getting gpsd to recognize my Adafruit GPS Breakout. It is connected to my BBB through UART1 (cat /dev/ttyO1 and minicom both work and so does gpsmon /dev/ttyO1)
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  • [18:06:48] <bunsen> this is what happens when i run gpsd http://pastie.org/8597750
  • [18:07:39] <bunsen> everything seems to work except for the test client cgps (i run it in a separate terminal window so i dont need to end the gpsd process)
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  • [18:07:53] <stt_michael> does the gpsd have permissions to access the serial port?
  • [18:08:15] <stt_michael> and nothing else is trying to acccess the port at the same time .. eg. minicom/cat/etc
  • [18:08:21] <bunsen> yeah i think so, im running everything as root
  • [18:08:33] <stt_michael> yuk, but ok :)
  • [18:09:17] <bunsen> when i use the -n option on gpsd to query without waiting for client calls (a suggestion ive seen else where) gpsd does seem to spit out the proper information
  • [18:09:57] <bunsen> but no matter what i've done cgps hasn't been able to pick up on it... i'm trying to get this to work before writing my own client
  • [18:10:15] <stt_michael> ah yes .. it looks like cgps can't get to the gpsd .. problem with the listening port ..
  • [18:11:38] <bunsen> I'm not really sure how else to test it since the other test clients (xgps) are GUI and i'm just ssh'ing into the BBB
  • [18:12:02] <stt_michael> you're using a stock version of BBB angstrom?
  • [18:12:13] <stt_michael> you should be able to tunned the X-session using ssh -X :)
  • [18:12:16] <stt_michael> tunnel*
  • [18:12:16] <bunsen> yeah, just how it shipped
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  • [18:13:44] <bunsen> whenever i've tried that i get this error http://pastie.org/8597774
  • [18:14:04] <stt_michael> ah you'll probabyl need to enable it in the sshd_config
  • [18:14:22] <stt_michael> ok yikes .. yeah thats bad
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  • [18:14:52] <bunsen> do i not have the packages/x setup on my BBB?
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  • [18:15:24] <stt_michael> it can't find gtk for some reason .. I woulda thought that would be in the stock distro
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  • [18:16:37] <bunsen> i hasn't really presented much of a problem for me (except this) since i haven't needed any of that. I recently ordered the stuff i need to use the bbb standalone (microHDMI etc) and i might try reinstalling angstrom or another distro
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  • [18:17:27] <bunsen> on line 7 of the gpsd log http://pastie.org/8597750#7 it says that gpsd is stashing /dev/ttyO1
  • [18:18:55] <bunsen> I looked on the troubleshooting page of http://www.catb.org/gpsd/troubleshooting.html#firsttry and the page says that gpsd cannot find the device? but that may just be for usb gps's?
  • [18:18:57] <stt_michael> yeah I saw that
  • [18:20:21] <stt_michael> ok so .. you can see serial data on the port ok
  • [18:20:46] <stt_michael> do you have gpsmon ?
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  • [18:21:33] <bunsen> yeah gpsmon /dev/ttyO1 works just fine
  • [18:24:24] <stt_michael> did you do the two steps before .. killall gpsd and remove the lockfile?
  • [18:24:54] <bunsen> yeah killall gpsd and rm /var/run/gpsd.sock?
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  • [18:25:25] <stt_michael> yup
  • [18:26:02] <stt_michael> I'm suspicious of Line 3 .. http://pastie.org/8597750#3
  • [18:27:00] <bunsen> yeah im not quite sure where that comes from, I was suspicious of the way i was connecting to the internet on the BBB (through usb to my computer) but it has the same error before i set up the connection as well
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  • [18:28:32] <stt_michael> hmm .. did you install from source or a package?
  • [18:29:33] <bunsen> i think i just used the package
  • [18:29:38] <bunsen> opkg install gpsd
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  • [18:35:33] <stt_michael> bunsen: do you recall whether angstrom downloaded any additional packages?
  • [18:35:53] <stt_michael> I'm seeing three/four related packages available
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  • [18:36:22] <bunsen> i dont think so? i have tried installing other packages and uninstalled them (ntp) but i dont think gpsd installed others
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  • [18:36:49] <bunsen> oh yeah, i installed the python-pygpsd package.. or soemthing like that
  • [18:37:21] <stt_michael> just looking at http://pandorawiki.org/GPS
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  • [18:38:38] <stt_michael> it should be possible to telnet to the gpsd .. thats where I think one of the problem(s) lie(s)
  • [18:39:49] <bunsen> yeah i tried the telnet instructions from http://www.catb.org/gpsd/troubleshooting.html#telnet but i didnt get anything. Give me a second ill try again and post the result
  • [18:41:59] <bunsen> http://pastie.org/8597843#
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  • [18:43:17] <stt_michael> ah that looks about right
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  • [18:44:47] <bunsen> so i guess theres nothing coming on the ip4 port that gpsd clients are looking for?
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  • [18:45:12] <stt_michael> the gpsd is like a server .. it makes gps data available to anything that connects to it
  • [18:45:45] <stt_michael> at the moment .. it doesn't seem to 'see' a gps receiver by the looks of things
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  • [18:47:50] <bunsen> well when i run gpsd with -n there is gps data parsed and spit out onto te console screen, but none of it seems to make it to the clients? could this stem from the problem with http://pastie.org/8597750#3 ?
  • [18:48:20] <stt_michael> besides, cgps .. what other clients are you using?
  • [18:48:27] <stt_michael> and this is over the usbnet connection, yes?
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  • [18:48:43] <bunsen> im not quite sure what that means
  • [18:49:05] <bunsen> ive been just ssh'ing into the BBB and trying to get cgps to work
  • [18:49:17] <stt_michael> ok grand. Good starting place.
  • [18:49:27] <stt_michael> so cgps is failing .. currently?
  • [18:49:32] <bunsen> im trying to get this to work before i start working on my own client haha
  • [18:49:36] <bunsen> yeah and telnet
  • [18:49:56] <bunsen> gpsmon and cat/minicom'ing to /dev/ttyO1 works just fine
  • [18:50:25] <stt_michael> ok so that proves the serial connection to the GPS device is ok
  • [18:50:30] <rkc> Hi All.... I am looking at beaglebone to learn linux porting and driver development.... having easy jtag debugging is essential for me. In this regard I need your advice on selecting beaglebone or BBB
  • [18:51:55] <stt_michael> rkc: I think you'll find most embedded devices have JTAG connections for factory test/debug
  • [18:52:16] <stt_michael> the only difference will be whats accessible and supported by the community at large
  • [18:52:23] <bunsen> stt_michael yeah thats what was confusing me, it seems like everything works except for gpsd's "server"-things. I've even gotten small clients that connect to the GPS with serial to work (just parsing raw data) but i wanted to use gpsd for more... good-ness
  • [18:52:44] <stt_michael> sure .. I can see an application I would find useful for gpsd .. and a usb gps dongle :)
  • [18:53:39] <bunsen> is that the issue im having? UART rather than USB?
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  • [18:54:17] <stt_michael> it should work with either .. but there are catches because of usb hotplugging
  • [18:55:01] <rkc> stt_michael: I earlier had mini2440 and made it work with openocd... but i read about beaglebone having inbuilt jtag over usb... i am unable to understand what does that mean... is it full fledged jtag or some kind of client server mechanism like adb in android ?
  • [18:55:31] <bunsen> stt_michael: yeah i was just following along this guide since it is the right gps chip http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-ultimate-gps-on-the-raspberry-pi
  • [18:55:43] <stt_michael> rkc: wouldn't personally recommend jtag-over-usb .. thats not gonna be native by definition :) let me look at a bbb board sec.
  • [18:55:57] <rkc> basically my requirement is i should be able to debug starting from uboot till kernel and module level...
  • [18:56:32] <stt_michael> yeah you'll be fine on the debug serial port :)
  • [18:56:55] <stt_michael> there's a 5pin header on the BBB baseboard .. you'll need a TTL converter .. think the BBB is 3v3 for reference
  • [18:58:00] <stt_michael> bunsen: I'm reminded of a known fact of GPS modules .. they often take a LONG time to start up
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  • [18:58:46] <stt_michael> rkc: if you can handle linux debugging .. the serial port/console should be adequate for most purposes. U-boot gives you a blob of text on boot.
  • [18:59:03] <stt_michael> Then you get kernel messages, etc as per usual
  • [18:59:20] <stt_michael> you can then interact with a serial console as you would connected directly.
  • [19:00:17] <stt_michael> bunsen: have you left gpsd running, tried cgps and gone to make a hot drink/etc ?!
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  • [19:00:55] <rkc> michael: but i need a full fledged JTAG where I can check for register dumps... I am not used to putting printk's in sources :-)
  • [19:01:28] <bunsen> well i've left cgps running and it just times out. the gps board has an led on it and i know that it has locked on a signal and warmed up so that shouldn't be the issue
  • [19:01:45] <stt_michael> rkc: yes, would love to learn how to do that properly some day
  • [19:02:09] <stt_michael> rkc: from http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#Optional_JTAG - To install the JTAG header, all you have to do is install P2 on the back of the board.
  • [19:02:09] <stt_michael> P2 is a Samtec FTR-110-03-G-D-06 connector and can be purchased from Samtec or any of their distributors.
  • [19:04:03] <stt_michael> rkc: http://beagleboard.org/static/beaglebone/a3/Docs/ccs-jtag-simple.htm - maybe applicable
  • [19:04:26] <rkc> yes... i just read through... thats why I wanted to understand the difference between jtag over USb and the one given by BBB. They seem to have saved some cost by removing FTDI on BBB
  • [19:04:54] <stt_michael> yeah ftdi chips are expensive :(
  • [19:05:07] <stt_michael> although ftdi are making some cheaper cut-down versions
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  • [19:05:55] <rkc> But for me ease of use is the key... even if its costlier I would go with beaglebone instaed of BBB... but want to take an educated decision after understanding what this jtag over usb means....
  • [19:05:57] <stt_michael> for our debugging purposes we use a FTDI usb breakout board or http://www.robotshop.com/en/parallax-prop-plug-usb-to-serial-converter.html
  • [19:06:28] <stt_michael> bunsen: hmm
  • [19:06:43] <stt_michael> bunsen: whats your GPS?
  • [19:06:59] <bunsen> Thttp://www.adafruit.com/products/746
  • [19:07:30] <stt_michael> bunsen: aha, its all starting to fit together ... :)
  • [19:08:11] <bunsen> do you think its an issue with the port being locked up or whatnot haha?
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  • [19:10:10] <stt_michael> bunsen: nope .. just made an oversight in configuration somewhere :)
  • [19:11:04] <stt_michael> bunsen: the limitation with the Pi is it only has a couple of serial ports, and not very accessible
  • [19:11:27] <bunsen> but BBB shouldn't have this issue?
  • [19:11:32] <stt_michael> newp
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  • [19:15:12] <bunsen> i just did a sanity check and it still doesn't work
  • [19:15:14] <bunsen> http://pastie.org/8597952
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  • [19:15:38] <stt_michael> hrm
  • [19:15:51] <stt_michael> I'm trying to look up angstrom packages, but the damn website is down
  • [19:16:30] <stt_michael> can you run "gpsd -Nn -D3 <etc>" and paste the results please?
  • [19:16:46] <stt_michael> or even D4
  • [19:16:52] <stt_michael> something just isn't quite right
  • [19:17:06] <bunsen> sure one sec
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  • [19:18:28] <bunsen> i just stopped it after a while because otherwise it would go on forever haha
  • [19:18:34] <stt_michael> sure np
  • [19:21:32] <bunsen> http://pastie.org/8597973
  • [19:23:12] <stt_michael> ok .. it definitely gets data.. from what I'm reading the "-n" switch is necessary
  • [19:23:37] <bunsen> yeah but that still doesnt help with cgps haha
  • [19:24:11] <bunsen> ive tried pointing cgps to the right port too with cgps localhost 2947 and i still get the same error(s)
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  • [19:29:30] <solrize> element14.com says the BBB has two ethernet ports---is that right???!
  • [19:29:42] <stt_michael> no lol
  • [19:29:49] <bunsen> just one
  • [19:29:52] <stt_michael> not as standard!
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  • [19:30:44] <solrize> hehe
  • [19:30:56] <stt_michael> I don't think I've seen a .. cheap .. development platform with more than one ethernet
  • [19:31:11] <solrize> hehe
  • [19:31:20] <lee> is it just me or are they manufacturing BBBs out of hen's teeth?
  • [19:31:22] <stt_michael> to have one with many platforms is even a bonus
  • [19:31:30] <solrize> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1278#Technical_Details hmm this is a little confused too
  • [19:31:56] <solrize> i guess 2 -ethernet means two led indicators heh
  • [19:31:59] <stt_michael> Indicators 1-Power, 2-Ethernet, 4-User Controllable LEDs
  • [19:32:12] <stt_michael> one LED for power, One LEd for Ethernet, 4 LEDs for user control
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  • [19:32:23] <stt_michael> in fact .. there's the standard 2 LEDs on the ethernet socket
  • [19:32:24] <lee> 2 LEDs for ethernet, link and activity
  • [19:32:26] <stt_michael> one for link .. one for speed
  • [19:32:32] <stt_michael> correct .. my bad
  • [19:32:39] <solrize> soekris.com has some nice boards with multiple ethernets though they're outside the bbb price range
  • [19:33:01] <stt_michael> it depends what you're looking to achieve wiht your system :)
  • [19:34:20] <lee> currently I would like to achieve "in my hands" =)
  • [19:34:46] <lee> but computer at farnell says no. at least not until the 7th feb
  • [19:34:51] <stt_michael> lee: there should be a number of vendors with stock ..
  • [19:35:00] <stt_michael> try RS ?
  • [19:35:04] <stt_michael> [RS components]
  • [19:35:08] <lee> RS is april
  • [19:35:16] <lee> also, they're RS-holes
  • [19:35:31] <stt_michael> hmph .. they've grossly underestimated demand .. Again.
  • [19:35:43] <lee> only other one in the UK is RoboSavvy, which doesn't even have an estimated date
  • [19:36:11] <bunsen> kids these days... tsktsk haha
  • [19:36:12] <stt_michael> I got 21/1 from RS - http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/7753805/
  • [19:36:48] <lee> ohh
  • [19:37:00] <lee> well that's changed since yesterday when it was 3/4/2014
  • [19:37:33] <stt_michael> looks like CircuitCo doin another production batch
  • [19:38:02] <bunsen> alright stt_michael i've got to go... still mostly clueless on how to solve this issue... i might just reinstall angstrom and start over later, see if that helps
  • [19:38:06] <stt_michael> sucks .. none in the US - http://www.digikey.co.uk/product-detail/en/BB-BBLK-000/BB-BBLK-000-ND/3884456
  • [19:38:18] <stt_michael> bunsen: yeah sorry about that .. attention wandering
  • [19:38:27] <stt_michael> might wanna try debian if you're gonna scratch it
  • [19:38:40] <lee> I'm waiting for some LED panels to arrive, should be around mid january at a guess, apparently the pi can't handle the timings but the BBB's PRU can
  • [19:38:42] <stt_michael> what I'm doing most of my embedded development on beagle/imx6 chips
  • [19:38:43] <bunsen> do i lose anything with debian?
  • [19:38:56] <stt_michael> much better packaging system :) imho!
  • [19:39:06] <bunsen> alright thanks for the help!
  • [19:39:10] <stt_michael> good luck
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  • [19:40:03] <stt_michael> beagle is far superior board to the Pi
  • [19:40:39] <stt_michael> in all but graphics acceleration/hdmi . but thats what the Broadcom chip was designed for
  • [19:40:41] <lee> certainly seems to be for this use
  • [19:40:58] <stt_michael> I still can't believe the Pi's ethernet is via a USB hub chip
  • [19:41:06] <stt_michael> -puke-
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  • [19:43:49] <stt_michael> and on that happy note .. I need to get home! .. catchya laters!
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  • [19:44:35] <stt_michael> oh btw if you want a really funky embedded board .. with wifi .. check out http://www.wandboard.org/
  • [19:44:52] <stt_michael> only downside is no eMMC
  • [19:44:52] <lee> nah I just want what I'm told will work with the hardware and libraries
  • [19:45:10] <lee> and I figure idling in here will give me plenty to read when I can't figure out the basics
  • [19:45:16] <stt_michael> gotta get our 'spare' board RMA'd :/ heh.
  • [19:45:35] <lee> wish I'd known there was a supply problem last month though, I would have ordered a couple then
  • [19:46:00] <lee> I foolishly assumed they were widespread, like the pi
  • [19:46:39] <stt_michael> even the pi has been out-of-stock at times .. the difference is Eben/etc have stepped up production. Bigtime.
  • [19:46:44] <mrpackethead> stt_michael: i got a wandboard in a couple of weeks ago.
  • [19:46:55] <mrpackethead> pretty cool bit of kit.
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  • [19:47:20] <stt_michael> my dual is sittin serving on the bookshelf at home .. its got a project involving the wifi and audio waiting
  • [19:47:20] <lee> yeah, the pi has had issues, but nowadays they're easy to get hold of
  • [19:47:31] <stt_michael> pi is cheap. nuff said.
  • [19:47:33] <lee> mrpackethead: does it suppor~t pxe boot, do you know?
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  • [19:47:48] <stt_michael> anything with ethernet should support netbooting
  • [19:48:07] <mrpackethead> lee, dont' know. Ive only just fired it up with debian, and done a very limited amount of testing.
  • [19:48:53] <stt_michael> lee: think it should work through uboot
  • [19:49:22] <stt_michael> ok going going gone .. bbl :p
  • [19:49:27] <lee> cya
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  • [21:47:35] <al3xclarke> hi all
  • [21:47:50] <al3xclarke> anyone know if i can use a BMP085 pressure sensor with a beagleboard rev c4?
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  • [21:48:42] <rocky|arch> it's i2c right?
  • [21:48:46] <rocky|arch> then yeah
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  • [21:49:14] <al3xclarke> yep, it's i2c
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  • [21:49:38] <al3xclarke> do i need to connect this to the expansion header on the board?
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  • [21:50:52] <rocky|arch> check derek molloy's spreadsheets for which pins are the SDA and SCL for the different i2c busses.
  • [21:50:55] <rocky|arch> https://github.com/derekmolloy/boneDeviceTree/tree/master/docs
  • [21:51:44] <al3xclarke> this is for the bone and not the rev c4 board that i have. will the pins still be the same?
  • [21:51:53] <rocky|arch> I don't know.
  • [21:52:22] <rocky|arch> Sorry, I didn't read that you were using the beagleboard XD
  • [21:53:03] <prpplague> al3xclarke: have a look at the schematic for the trainer board, that has the pins for the i2c interface on the expansion header
  • [21:53:06] <al3xclarke> no problem. i see lots of information using this type of sensor with the bone, but not the earlier beagleboards.
  • [21:54:36] <al3xclarke> prpplague: silly question, but where do i find the schematics?
  • [21:55:00] <prpplague> al3xclarke: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer
  • [21:58:37] <al3xclarke> thanks for the advice. i'm guessing i cannot wire the sensor directly into the beagleboard and must go via the trainer board then?
  • [22:00:31] <rocky|arch> *coming from someone who hasn't worked with the beagleboard c4* do you have a male header on the expansion port? couldn't you just put some jumpers between it and a breadboard?
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  • [22:07:37] <al3xclarke> i'd need to install the header (as the board comes without it)
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  • [22:07:54] <rocky|arch> ok
  • [22:11:03] <al3xclarke> just checked the manual and the pins on the expansion header (when installed) should allow me to connect the sensor. i was under the impression that i required something to work inbetween the sensor and board.
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  • [22:13:07] <rocky|arch> nah, most devices support i2c
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  • [22:18:43] <al3xclarke> cool, thanks for the help.
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  • [22:23:18] <rocky|arch> np
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