• [00:00:09] <thews_> and I'm pretty sure it needs nodejs plugged in somewhere for that file
  • [00:00:51] <s5fs> in the repo what needs to be used by node?:
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  • [00:01:11] <s5fs> i know node fairly well, enough to get into trouble at any rate
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  • [00:01:42] <thews_> bonescript = node
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  • [00:02:37] <thews_> ahhh
  • [00:02:41] <s5fs> thats what i thought too but the repo you linked doesn't have an obvious package.json anywhere etc
  • [00:02:42] <thews_> I think I know what the deal is
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  • [00:02:51] <thews_> there are two repos
  • [00:02:53] <s5fs> is taht the ifnormational site?
  • [00:02:57] <s5fs> haha, bingo
  • [00:02:57] <thews_> https://github.com/jadonk/bonescript
  • [00:03:19] <thews_> but I think that instead of using apache, they're using node + a custom service
  • [00:03:41] <thews_> s5fs: actual module is here https://github.com/jadonk/bonescript/tree/master/node_modules/bonescript
  • [00:03:42] <s5fs> right, node is usually it's own web server or it uses something like nginx as a reverse proxy
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  • [00:04:26] <thews_> I think they have it as it's own webserver, but using a service script to start it
  • [00:04:33] <thews_> I can expand the image and dig throgh it
  • [00:04:35] <thews_> through*
  • [00:04:42] <thews_> it'd be a lot easier if I had two I'm sure :D
  • [00:04:53] <s5fs> haha!
  • [00:05:11] <s5fs> yeah bonescript is using express, which uses connect, which uses node's http module: https://github.com/jadonk/bonescript/tree/master/node_modules/bonescript/node_modules
  • [00:05:24] <s5fs> totally forgot I had a case of redbull!
  • [00:06:06] <thews_> I am pretty much a noob with nodejs, but I've used it a few times and I've configured reverse proxies and mods of all kinds in the past
  • [00:06:47] <s5fs> i've been hacking node for over a year professionally and am a co-organizer for my local node user group
  • [00:07:37] <s5fs> in short, i like javascript
  • [00:08:14] <Kernle> s5fs: Its eadible :D
  • [00:08:30] <s5fs> Kernle: fantastic!
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  • [00:08:42] <s5fs> see, if you'd have made small cross-hatches into the top it would've looked intentional
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  • [00:09:05] <Kernle> :D
  • [00:09:40] <Kernle> btw, who needs BBB or RaPi anyway... Android x86 is the way to go :P https://www.dropbox.com/s/rhac3fdyliz8u7n/2013-11-08%2000.17.02.mp4
  • [00:09:48] <Kernle> (Android x86 4.3 with an PSX emulator running FF 7)
  • [00:10:23] <s5fs> if that supports a bluetooth controller i'm totally game
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  • [00:10:43] <Kernle> I think it should... might give it a spin with my PS3 controller later
  • [00:11:21] <s5fs> i've got a psp running emulators and i used to have a mame cabinet that i built back in the day
  • [00:12:06] <s5fs> my current not-really-a-project is trying to get picade working with the ps3 controller so i can play some mario kart w/my lady
  • [00:12:21] <Kernle> :D sounds cool
  • [00:12:24] <s5fs> could be
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  • [00:13:09] <Kernle> My current project is integrating shadows in my game engine, so we can ship our game early 2014
  • [00:13:21] <Kernle> We were aiming for end 2013 tough :(
  • [00:13:27] <s5fs> ah, that's real work
  • [00:13:53] <s5fs> my real work has also slipped into 2014 due to hardware manufacturing challenges :)
  • [00:14:22] <Kernle> Kinda. I'm writing a paper about improving shadow performance and quality anyhow, so why not make use of the knowledge :D
  • [00:14:30] <Kernle> "hardware manufacturing challenges"? duh... xD
  • [00:14:56] <s5fs> indeed :D
  • [00:15:20] <Kernle> What kind auf challenges for example? ;-)
  • [00:16:00] <s5fs> i don't know crap about 3d programming tbh, not something i've done. wrote a few 2d side scrollers for various competitions but thats it. nothing noteworthy haha! my buddy worked on some lilo and stich game for playstation
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  • [00:17:15] <s5fs> Kernle: we're working with multi-layer boards, fine pitch bgas, etc and customer hasn't had to mfg these before so they're having trouble finding a vendor that suits them
  • [00:17:33] <s5fs> that's okay, it's their project and their pace. happy customers are job #1.
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  • [00:19:03] <thews_> s5fs: got it figured out :)
  • [00:19:19] <s5fs> thews_: NICE!
  • [00:19:22] <thews_> had to modify bonescript's server.js and autorun.js
  • [00:19:33] <thews_> but it works on debian now
  • [00:19:33] <s5fs> thews_: what starts it at boot? just curious.
  • [00:19:36] <thews_> as far as I can tell this is the first time
  • [00:20:00] <s5fs> thews_: nice, now i can hassle you for help if i go the bonescript route haha
  • [00:20:15] <thews_> so on angstrom, it looks like there are a few things that start it https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beaglebone/v8A0addJf3E
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  • [00:22:15] <s5fs> ah looks like it may be using systemd
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  • [00:23:11] <thews_> s5fs: I left some notes here https://gist.github.com/justinledwards/7363464#comment-946125
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  • [00:23:41] <thews_> so that maybe I can flash debian from scratch some time and do a full write up, I'm sure many people would be grateful to have a BBB with bonescript and no angstrom
  • [00:23:58] <thews_> and be up-to-date
  • [00:24:02] <s5fs> thews_: absolutely!
  • [00:24:37] <s5fs> i'm working on building custom images for the bbb using yocto. still totally new to yocto/oe/bitbake and am barely able to ask questions, but it's fun!
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  • [00:25:18] <Kernle> s5fs: Cool stuff :D Well... i did solder some stuff back in school. But thats about it :D
  • [00:26:07] <s5fs> same! i'm having to learn so much basic electronics stuff, its fun. i dont' care to become a real hardware dude, just be conversant enough to write embedded software and interface with EE folks more easily.
  • [00:26:32] <s5fs> hard enough to keep my current skillset current, let alone bringing on another discipline
  • [00:26:46] * thews_ is pretty good at soldering
  • [00:27:55] <thews_> I make my own squeezed together perfboard so that I can modularize things and hack stuff together quickly
  • [00:27:57] <Kernle> Well..... i think I'll keep developing games :D
  • [00:28:03] <thews_> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ly38nOjhoig/Unkz-B18qSI/AAAAAAAAJHs/Cra3dC1Y-Xw/w1296-h972-no/20131105_120735.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-qS69P1NqZb8/Unk0B-1IwtI/AAAAAAAAJH4/l46lze1DxZg/w729-h972-no/20131105_120743.jpg
  • [00:28:10] <s5fs> once i soldered a smd resistor to my thumb, that's gotta count as something
  • [00:28:18] <Kernle> XD
  • [00:28:19] <s5fs> Kernle: keep on keepin' on
  • [00:28:40] <thews_> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pMqTtSA9Y8A/UngkOdjBaNI/AAAAAAAAJG8/NP9T2WTIhsw/w1296-h972-no/20131104_164758.jpg
  • [00:28:42] <s5fs> note to self, you cannot "hold" an smd in place with fingers
  • [00:29:02] <thews_> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--QEh9XDsRWk/UnVxXImZOQI/AAAAAAAAJAs/uhD768xIhUk/w1296-h972-no/20131102_164025.jpg
  • [00:29:03] <thews_> hahaha
  • [00:29:05] <thews_> yeah
  • [00:29:10] <Kernle> Looks kinda cool thews_ :D
  • [00:29:12] <thews_> can't get your finger near the iron at all
  • [00:29:22] <thews_> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YtZ5bAkM8Ro/Um7T2MT2fyI/AAAAAAAAI6w/lqNqWoHsW_E/w1296-h972-no/20131028_161434.jpg
  • [00:29:30] <Kernle> Shadow stuff, wohoo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/og1ddh1u8zuj72q/Timetheft_Dev006.png
  • [00:29:40] <thews_> that last one was definitely tedious
  • [00:30:26] <s5fs> indeed
  • [00:30:38] <s5fs> i need to start etching my own boards soon, i'm getting to that point i think
  • [00:30:46] <s5fs> i think talking about is proof positive that i'm there.
  • [00:30:51] <thews_> you can have them printed cheaper than etching them
  • [00:31:05] <thews_> my next step is definitely getting them made
  • [00:31:14] <thews_> I didn't have time to wait on getting those made though
  • [00:31:21] <thews_> one project was a gift
  • [00:31:34] <s5fs> print, eh? like at home?
  • [00:31:40] <s5fs> i have a laserjet
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  • [00:31:56] <s5fs> i really want a 3d printer, gunna save my pennies and buy one next year i hope
  • [00:31:57] <Kernle> :D
  • [00:31:58] <thews_> nope, there's a few cheap fab services
  • [00:32:13] <Kernle> Same here 25fs
  • [00:32:18] <Kernle> *s5fs
  • [00:32:19] <thews_> itead and seeed are the norm for cheap pcbs
  • [00:32:29] <s5fs> Kernle: does your irc client not support tab-completion for names?
  • [00:32:37] <thews_> recently finished project -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gyuYkKM2ys
  • [00:32:42] <s5fs> thews_: i love seeed, i've bought tons of stuff from them
  • [00:32:55] <Kernle> Ah, it does s5fs. Didn't even know that it could do that :D
  • [00:33:14] <thews_> seeed has an almost insanely cheap fab service
  • [00:33:27] <s5fs> Kernle: such a timesaver!
  • [00:33:40] <s5fs> thews_: i bought some of their bluetooth bee modules, those things are slick!
  • [00:33:43] <Kernle> Indeed it is s5fs :D
  • [00:33:55] <thews_> I need to get some of those
  • [00:34:08] <s5fs> thews_: its such a nice way to hang a remote sensor somewhere
  • [00:34:28] <thews_> I'd like to use it for remote control mostly
  • [00:34:38] <thews_> much cleaner than adding buttons and lcds to things
  • [00:34:56] <s5fs> here's a slide deck from a presentation i did earlier this year involving the bluetooth bee: http://pokemedia.com/nodepdx/2013/#/
  • [00:34:58] <thews_> s5fs: this is what motivated me to get a BBB https://github.com/justinledwards/gardino
  • [00:35:13] <thews_> I built a remote sensor + control web application for arduino
  • [00:35:30] <thews_> but arduino's memory and having to use stripped down C++ with no libraries really drove me insane
  • [00:35:42] <thews_> for one, dynamic array length
  • [00:36:01] <s5fs> thews_: oh yeah, gotta keep sketches dead simple otherwise you run outta space quickly
  • [00:36:13] <thews_> s5fs: you do hydro?
  • [00:36:16] <s5fs> most of what i do with hw is really proof-of-concept stuff for my own edification
  • [00:36:29] <s5fs> thews_: i know hydro and aeroponics pretty well
  • [00:36:48] <thews_> s5fs: I have a hydro greenhouse and an indoor setup
  • [00:36:56] <Kernle> *sigh* its time I finally get the next job. Working as a freelancer fulltime is... stressful.
  • [00:37:03] <s5fs> thats fantastic, i'm super jealous
  • [00:37:23] <thews_> s5fs: today's pic of tomato progress https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3vhZKgEE96w/UnvA7of_v9I/AAAAAAAAJJA/T7mkpPd6oD4/w1296-h972-no/20131107_103320.jpg
  • [00:37:29] <s5fs> Kernle: i consult and share your pain, i freelanced for about a year before landing in a firm
  • [00:37:34] <thews_> s5fs: and some salad greens https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rnyTYniROpE/UnvAdqWhJvI/AAAAAAAAJIw/9JE4XiFoosw/w1296-h972-no/20131107_103127.jpg
  • [00:38:18] <s5fs> thews_: those look great!
  • [00:38:57] <Kernle> s5fs: Freelancing since in university. There are good and bad months. The last few were remarkliby bad. Just small projects with really assy customers.
  • [00:39:00] <s5fs> i had a cherry tomato crop this spring, then salad greens for the summer. everything has been taken down though, i bought a dino phone haha
  • [00:39:17] <Kernle> + there is just tons of stuff piling up to be paid. Computer, car, etc.
  • [00:39:28] <s5fs> thews_: the salad greens look like an nft setup?
  • [00:39:49] <s5fs> i don't see drippers at each site or anything, but there is lettuce in the way
  • [00:40:04] <thews_> s5fs: yeah NFT setup, I figured out a way to very inexpensively change the levels
  • [00:40:15] <thews_> and i do have some drippers that I was using to supplement some zucchini
  • [00:40:20] <thews_> but have since stopped using them
  • [00:40:28] <thews_> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iJ0YT4Ov0E4/Um74WkqtMUI/AAAAAAAAI74/hY7GxAJtOKs/w1296-h972-no/20131028_185023.jpg here's my small greenhouse
  • [00:41:11] <s5fs> greenhouse is fantastic, i'm in a second floor apartment without any outdoor space, so i'm stuck growing indoors for now
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  • [00:41:48] <thews_> I had a job offer recently down in Florida, it's really been stressing me out bad because if I move I'll have to get rid of a lot of things
  • [00:41:50] <s5fs> gardino is awesome, i wanna extend the gromon system to manage lights and stuff too. all it does now is basic alerting via twilio.
  • [00:42:39] <s5fs> thews_: if you give them to good homes it wont' be so bad. except for florida of course. i got divorced a few years ago and got rid of most of my things, felt really liberating.
  • [00:42:43] <thews_> s5fs: I'll probably rewrite everything for nodejs once I figure it out well enough, I'd like to do an all in one kind of controller that has it's own AP to connect to
  • [00:42:53] <s5fs> i'm something of a minimalist at heart anyways, but tools i hate to give up on.
  • [00:43:10] <thews_> s5fs: I've moved across the country a few times, and I was pretty sure I was done with that
  • [00:43:35] <s5fs> thews_: lets stay in touch, i have a good deal of interest in a similar system, and have some example code to rip apart. i think this would be a super fun project.
  • [00:43:36] <thews_> s5fs: but there's no jobs where I live here in OK, and I need to keep my eyes open
  • [00:43:50] <thews_> s5fs: definitely
  • [00:44:04] <s5fs> thews_: what kinda work are you seeking?
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  • [00:44:57] <thews_> s5fs: well I'm a systems engineer type person at my currrent job, but I engineer telephony + web apps + linux systems + network equipment
  • [00:45:06] <thews_> the job that has been offered is an integration engineer down in FL
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  • [00:46:21] <s5fs> thews_: gotcha, i'm fairly familiar w/that skillset. if i see any interesting contracts i'll keep you in mind.
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  • [00:48:42] <thews_> I'm responsible for a bunch of E911 systems, and emergency dispatch, and connecting skillsets with jobs right now
  • [00:49:23] <s5fs> no way! i did load testing for an E911 system about 2 years ago, totally bizarro gig
  • [00:49:26] <s5fs> it. was. awesome.
  • [00:49:50] <thews_> I wrote a small ruby app for load testing
  • [00:50:01] <thews_> https://github.com/justinledwards/ahn-rails-caller
  • [00:50:21] <s5fs> i used soapui to load the servers
  • [00:50:40] <thews_> this actually calls into systems and does DTMF and plays audio
  • [00:50:45] <thews_> to simulate real calls
  • [00:51:04] <thews_> each instance can probably handle about 1k calls
  • [00:51:37] <s5fs> coldfusion?? haha!
  • [00:51:49] <thews_> unfortunately I have to do a lot of coldfusion work
  • [00:51:56] <thews_> where'd you see that?
  • [00:52:01] <thews_> ahh
  • [00:52:05] <thews_> coldbox
  • [00:52:08] <thews_> most of my CF repos are private
  • [00:52:12] <s5fs> i rocked cf way back in the day, should've wrote a book on it
  • [00:52:20] <s5fs> back when ben forta was king
  • [00:52:29] <s5fs> back in teh allaire days
  • [00:52:29] <thews_> he's still popular in that community
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  • [00:52:46] <s5fs> heh, so like 30 dudes who haven't updated their skillsets think he's great ;)
  • [00:52:53] <thews_> I helped out a lot with railo (open cfml) until a couple of years ago
  • [00:53:09] <thews_> it's still hanging on somehow, mostly because of government apps I think
  • [00:53:16] <thews_> it drives me crazy
  • [00:53:25] <s5fs> yup, but wasn't it linode or someone who was hacked due to a cf security hole? sheesh
  • [00:53:30] <thews_> yeah
  • [00:53:32] <thews_> linode
  • [00:53:34] <thews_> and adobe was hacked
  • [00:53:35] <thews_> major leak
  • [00:53:36] <s5fs> not a coldfusion problem per-se, but still kinda funny
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  • [00:53:47] <thews_> there's some really nasty coldfusion exploits right now
  • [00:53:50] <s5fs> adobe being hacked by a hole in acrobat reader would be hilarious
  • [00:53:53] <thews_> and I know about 90% of the sites aren't patched
  • [00:54:08] <thews_> xml injection that lets you read any file and they don't salt their hashes
  • [00:54:12] <thews_> so you can get all passwords
  • [00:54:14] <thews_> sucks
  • [00:54:21] <s5fs> poor security
  • [00:54:30] <thews_> I'm responsible for all of our systems and network, so it really bothers me
  • [00:54:34] <thews_> how unsecure it is
  • [00:54:34] <s5fs> creative suite aside, adobe just isn't known for good software imho
  • [00:55:24] <thews_> the main thing is they use open libraries, but they don't update them
  • [00:55:34] <thews_> and they connect them together insecurely
  • [00:55:53] <thews_> and ignore best practices for crypto
  • [00:55:56] <thews_> so much bad stuff
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  • [00:56:12] <thews_> not to mention CFML is pretty ugly
  • [00:56:15] <s5fs> the internet is super aggressive these days
  • [00:56:35] <s5fs> <cfif> you could rewrite it, how would you?</cfif>
  • [00:56:39] <s5fs> cfloop
  • [00:56:43] <s5fs> blah blah
  • [00:57:05] <s5fs> i worked with a guy writing cf who called snippets "snippLets" and it drove me crazy
  • [00:57:08] <thews_> yep and with as many tags as are required, you can't tab it very nicely
  • [00:57:15] <thews_> haha
  • [00:57:36] <thews_> I hate the newer tags too, and their serialization
  • [00:57:39] <thews_> they bastardize json
  • [00:58:02] <thews_> I hate how the new tags use old libraries, but use them terribly, in that they don't allow flexibility
  • [00:58:03] <thews_> like extjs
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  • [00:58:07] <s5fs> leave json alone, sheesh
  • [00:58:31] <s5fs> modern web is lost on IDE technologies
  • [00:58:37] <s5fs> js especially
  • [00:58:45] <thews_> yep
  • [00:58:51] <thews_> I hate old IDEs
  • [00:58:55] <s5fs> i use vim
  • [00:59:00] <s5fs> for java, netbeans
  • [00:59:03] <thews_> I use sublimetext
  • [00:59:17] <thews_> it is a major time saver for me
  • [00:59:18] <s5fs> i looked into ST2 and thought it was cool, but vim is simple and everywhere
  • [00:59:21] <Kernle> I just realized that I'm downloading 1.44gb for nothing....
  • [00:59:32] <s5fs> Kernle: haha!
  • [01:00:02] <thews_> I tried out a few IDEs last year, but couldn't use them, too bloated
  • [01:00:39] <Kernle> Even with a minimalistic ubuntu, the 2gb are still just not enough. So I need to extend the partition to 4gb... with a linux system i currently not have.
  • [01:00:43] <thews_> sublime is really fast, has some nice plugins, like git gutters, and has lots of nice shortcuts, and nice regex support
  • [01:00:45] <s5fs> aside from autocompletion its not worth it to me. i prefer small tools that are easy to understand and extend.
  • [01:00:54] <thews_> Kernle: are you wanting to use GUI ?
  • [01:01:03] <Kernle> XBMC, so yeah
  • [01:01:07] <thews_> ahh
  • [01:01:24] <s5fs> Kernle: just run from sd, i'm sure it'll be okay. esp for proof-of-concept
  • [01:01:34] <thews_> s5fs: I don't use much autocomplete, but it can help sometimes, I mostly use ruby these days and rails c has the best autocompletion I could ask for
  • [01:01:34] <s5fs> once its up and running you can try to emmc-ify it
  • [01:01:54] <Kernle> Yeah s5fs, but even then its to big. The partition for the sd is just 2gb afaik
  • [01:02:18] <thews_> Kernle: if you flash a non emmc flasher to SD it should fill the card
  • [01:02:28] <s5fs> Kernle: oh weird, i've been booting 16gig sdcards.. 50mb fat32 boot partition and the rest is for the linux image
  • [01:02:29] <Kernle> Hmmm...
  • [01:02:49] <Kernle> I see s5fs . Did you partition yourself?
  • [01:02:54] <s5fs> but of course
  • [01:03:08] <Kernle> I'm just writing a predefined image to sd ;-)
  • [01:03:12] <Kernle> << windows :D
  • [01:03:22] <s5fs> i'm not like you people, i'm writing each bit to the sdcard with a steady hand and a magnified needle
  • [01:03:32] <s5fs> magnetized, sheesh
  • [01:03:34] <Kernle> Awesome, teach me :D
  • [01:03:57] <s5fs> haha! i don't know windows, did you try unplugging/replugging your mouse? rebooting?
  • [01:04:00] * s5fs is outta ideas
  • [01:04:04] <Kernle> :D
  • [01:04:09] <Kernle> This is not macosx :D
  • [01:04:16] <s5fs> good, i know osx even less
  • [01:04:43] <Kernle> Problem is - my linux on my laptop is broken atm :S
  • [01:05:06] * thews_ likes os x for my own personal use, not for others :D
  • [01:05:35] <s5fs> in theory once you write the image to the sdcard, you should be able to boot the bbb from emmc, then pop in the sdcard and use something like resize2fs to make it bigger
  • [01:05:35] * thews_ heavily tweaks os x to be close to his linux servers, but better workflows
  • [01:05:37] <Kernle> If I see someone using macosx, i get that need to chase that guy with a burning pitchfork.
  • [01:05:56] <s5fs> Kernle: here's an ancient link http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
  • [01:06:11] <thews_> I've blown most people away with my os x setup, but it takes me about 16 hours to get it setup for myself
  • [01:06:14] <s5fs> Kernle: really? i'm jealous of osx people, all the cool software is for th em now
  • [01:06:31] <ds2> there is nothing useful at all on osx
  • [01:06:35] <Kernle> Thats the reason why I punish my mac so much... it has my super-heating sitting ontop of it.
  • [01:06:44] <Kernle> *super-heating router
  • [01:06:46] <s5fs> ds2: linux doesn't get chrome canary builds but osx does
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  • [01:06:54] <Kernle> Barely visible, on the edge of my desk.
  • [01:07:34] <s5fs> ds2: also, textmate
  • [01:07:58] <s5fs> ds2: also, ios development (despite the tools being crappy, they're still platform-specific)
  • [01:08:11] <thews_> latest chrome builds + adium + total terminal + expose
  • [01:08:12] <Kernle> Okay, let me reframe my opinion about apple products... https://www.dropbox.com/s/f10b9wqucssrjbn/2012-05-03%2014-24-29.jpg
  • [01:08:19] <thews_> that's what really makes os x worth it
  • [01:08:28] <s5fs> i wont' support apple because they are phonies
  • [01:08:50] <thews_> I won my MBA, and work pays for my other mac stuff
  • [01:08:55] <thews_> otherwise I wouldn't buy it
  • [01:09:00] <thews_> and I don't like ios devices
  • [01:09:22] <s5fs> remember those guys who sold blue boxes then started a company selling computers from their garage? well they've grown up and that company hates hackers now.
  • [01:09:34] <thews_> I really hate that
  • [01:09:45] <s5fs> to me, it feels like apple walked through the door of success and slammed it behind them
  • [01:09:47] <thews_> I hate that everyone knows jobs but not woz, or torvalds
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  • [01:10:02] <s5fs> i hate consumer-driven markets
  • [01:10:06] <thews_> me too
  • [01:10:08] <s5fs> but dammit, apple makes beautiful hardware
  • [01:10:17] <Kernle> Well... as I freelancer I ocasionally do iOS apps, too. Or mostly I port between Android and iOS. Still, it sucks.
  • [01:10:37] <Kernle> s5fs: Yeah, I kinda like the macbooks. But the keyboards are crap.
  • [01:10:42] * Kernle loves his G710+
  • [01:10:45] <s5fs> all chicklet keyboards are crap
  • [01:10:57] <s5fs> i'm using a cm storm with cherry reds
  • [01:11:11] <s5fs> its.. okay
  • [01:11:44] <Kernle> My G710 is a blast. I picked it up last weekend to replace my worn down G15. And I really like that new typing feeling :)
  • [01:11:57] <Kernle> Especially when writing a lot of stuff (coding, writing on my paper, etc.)
  • [01:12:10] <s5fs> nice
  • [01:12:16] <Kernle> "unable to flush /var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i after padding: No space left on device"
  • [01:12:26] <Kernle> And there goes nothing :D
  • [01:13:26] <thews_> have a good night, have to get off of here for the evening
  • [01:15:29] <Kernle> s5fs: Thats how I punish macosx users: https://www.dropbox.com/s/h3f7cnoxiugtmp3/2012-12-30%2015.31.34.jpg
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  • [01:29:08] <ds2> who cares about chrome
  • [01:29:21] <ds2> who gives a rat's ass about iOS
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  • [01:31:48] <Kernle> The people who are supposed to pay me
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  • [01:34:26] <s5fs> thews_: take care
  • [01:35:17] <s5fs> Kernle: haha, love a nyancat
  • [01:35:51] <s5fs> ds2: dang man, are you trolling or just strongly opinionated?
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  • [01:39:47] <Kernle> Or both? ;-)
  • [01:40:21] <s5fs> indeed
  • [01:40:24] <s5fs> i'm just trying to foster communication i guess
  • [01:40:38] <s5fs> i guess i'm too inwardly-focused to feel strongly about what other people are doing
  • [01:41:00] <s5fs> wanna run mac? marry the same sex? eat a burger king? go nuts.
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  • [01:42:44] <ds2> there is no place in this universe for closed locked up crap
  • [01:43:01] <s5fs> ds2: i agree
  • [01:43:35] <s5fs> ds2: one of my big fears is that future laptops/desktops will have locked-down bootloaders and i wont' be able to install my own OS
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  • [01:43:44] <s5fs> similar to how many handsets come locked today
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  • [01:44:34] <ds2> so iOS is irrelevant
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  • [01:45:41] <s5fs> ds2: its not irrelevant, it does exist and has substantial mobile marketshare
  • [01:46:11] <s5fs> if the goal is market transformation, we as open source advocates have to be well-versed in what is commercially successful so we can beter understand what real-world users desire in products
  • [01:46:51] <s5fs> consumers have different desires than geeky engineering types, which is why laptop screens are getting wider
  • [01:47:45] <ds2> bah
  • [01:48:02] <ds2> that's like saying we must yield to roaches becuase they have substantial population count
  • [01:48:15] <s5fs> i never said 'yield'
  • [01:48:28] <ds2> they are to be ignored
  • [01:48:38] <s5fs> i'm saying 'understand', in the same way we must understand roaches so we can combat them
  • [01:48:49] <ds2> there is nothing to understand about them
  • [01:48:49] <s5fs> ignoring roaches doesn't get them out of my apartment though
  • [01:49:10] <Kernle> :D You never tried though
  • [01:49:22] <s5fs> Kernle: its a failed analogy anyways
  • [01:49:28] <Kernle> :D
  • [01:50:22] <s5fs> ds2: now, if you are saying we as a community should ignore commercial/closed systems and turn our focus inwards, sure. i can get behind that. but if the goal is to expand the reach of oss and try to get a lot more support, then we need to be able to talk to people at their level.
  • [01:50:43] <s5fs> asking someone to drop their ipad in favor of some ubuntu tablet isn't gunna happen if you can't compare/contrast
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  • [01:52:48] <jus10> i sold my ipad to pay for a beaglebone and some other goodies
  • [01:53:03] <s5fs> jus10: hi-5
  • [01:53:19] <s5fs> i have a nexus 7, i like the openness yet fear google
  • [01:53:31] <jus10> yeah, i understand that
  • [01:53:36] <jus10> i have a chromebook running linux
  • [01:54:10] <s5fs> i want a 15" macbook air made by anyone but apple
  • [01:54:25] <s5fs> super light, great form factor, tons of cpu/ram
  • [01:55:12] <jus10> I suppose I shouldn't mention what I'm using right now heh
  • [01:56:48] <s5fs> only ds2 seems to really care
  • [01:57:01] <s5fs> i dislike windows because its harder for me to support, the cli sucks, etc
  • [01:57:19] <s5fs> i don't know osx well enough to support it either, but its unixy enough that i can generally make due
  • [01:57:57] <s5fs> i have a great deal of knowledge about windows 2000-2008r2 but thats from a systems perspective, not open source software development
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  • [01:59:39] <ds2> no, just iOS
  • [01:59:48] <ds2> they are more reprehensibile then others
  • [02:00:10] <ds2> iOS is about pure evil... everyone else is more realistic
  • [02:00:35] <Ferris> iOS is difficult because it's pretty stripped down
  • [02:01:26] <Kernle> iOS is difficult because Objective-C is the devil
  • [02:01:55] <s5fs> i don't know enough obj-c to make an informed decision, what little i've written seemed fugly
  • [02:02:47] <ds2> it is not about the technical details
  • [02:02:49] <ds2> it is about their goal
  • [02:02:54] <ds2> total complete locked down eco system
  • [02:04:47] <s5fs> ds2: fully agreed, any sort of platform lock-in just sucks and is anti-consumer
  • [02:05:05] <jus10> unfortunately they all seem to do it to some extent
  • [02:05:08] <s5fs> so many folks stay on ios because they've purchased a ton of apps that either have to be repurchased on android or don't exist
  • [02:05:21] <ds2> hence they need to be blocked off
  • [02:05:26] <ds2> let them recreate the universe
  • [02:05:47] <s5fs> i'm not buying their products or developing for their platform
  • [02:06:00] <s5fs> but personal beliefs aside, they make great hardware
  • [02:06:13] <ds2> i disagree
  • [02:06:18] <s5fs> its a shame that my moral compass steers me away from them
  • [02:06:21] <ds2> from the tear downs I see, they are not any where near great
  • [02:06:22] <Kernle> s5fs: Yay, resized the partition, and now downloading the 1.44gb again :D
  • [02:06:28] <ds2> they are just good at con'ing people
  • [02:06:30] <s5fs> Kernle: happy day!
  • [02:06:36] <jus10> if they can push the market to higher dpi displays, i'm good with that
  • [02:06:51] <s5fs> jus10: not if it requires a proprietary video adapter though, hate that crap!
  • [02:07:11] <ds2> higher dpis is not desireable in so many ways
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  • [02:07:21] <s5fs> ds2: why not?
  • [02:07:21] <ds2> it is their crap that is pushing the market to the inferior capsense crap
  • [02:07:21] <jus10> s5fs: true. but my chromebook has a "unique" adapter as well
  • [02:07:31] <s5fs> jus10: for video out?
  • [02:07:35] <ds2> more dots = more time wasted dealing with them
  • [02:07:41] <ds2> which in turn means more power wasted
  • [02:07:42] <Kernle> :D
  • [02:07:44] <jus10> s5fs: it has a slimport for video
  • [02:07:51] <ds2> you don't need that many dots for many things
  • [02:08:11] <Kernle> Yeah, I don't see the point of > 720p for laptops and stuff.
  • [02:08:18] <s5fs> at least slimport is pretty normal tho
  • [02:08:27] <ds2> there is no good reason to go slimport for anything
  • [02:08:35] <ds2> MHL is perfectly functional
  • [02:08:36] <jus10> when i'm up near the screen on a 720p laptop, i wish I had higher
  • [02:09:16] <jus10> i have 3 different types of hdmi standards, slimport, mini-displayport, displayport, and dvi in my apartment
  • [02:09:21] <Kernle> I have two 27" monitors with 1080p. I'm completely good with that. My Laptop (17") has something x 900. Fully ok, too
  • [02:09:32] <jus10> i probably have some vga cables around as well but i can't be bothered
  • [02:09:50] <s5fs> 17" monitor!
  • [02:09:53] <jus10> usb a, b, mini, micro, old apple 30 pin, lightning connectors
  • [02:09:54] <s5fs> i mean laptop, that's huge
  • [02:09:54] <Kernle> Everything here is connected via HDMI... expect the legacy consoles, which are scart and stuff
  • [02:10:15] <Kernle> s5fs: Yeah.... i wanna see stuff when I develop :D
  • [02:10:30] <s5fs> Kernle: same, 15" is as small as i can comfortably go
  • [02:10:33] <jus10> ls
  • [02:10:38] <s5fs> pwd
  • [02:11:03] <Kernle> But the two 27" are the real icing on the cake... thinking about a third though
  • [02:11:05] <jus10> i type commands in the wrong shell window all of the time
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  • [02:11:34] <s5fs> jus10: i'm careful about that now, dropped a multi-million record table once by being in the wrong console
  • [02:11:36] <s5fs> "whoops"
  • [02:12:45] <s5fs> okay i'm out, later crew!
  • [02:12:56] <Kernle> (y)
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  • [02:29:58] <roma> I'm trying to get serial on my bbb. I get console output but it outputs nothing but many capital "C"'s. like CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
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  • [02:33:25] <roma> anyone have any serial experience with the bbb? What does the multiple C mean?
  • [02:33:42] <muriani> roma: what are your serial settings?
  • [02:33:45] <roma> btw, I bricked my bbb while trying to install debian
  • [02:34:19] <roma> 115200
  • [02:34:28] <muriani> 8n1?
  • [02:34:31] <roma> ya
  • [02:34:38] <muriani> hm
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  • [02:34:48] <magyarm> roma: all CCCCCC's means you have to remake your sdcard
  • [02:34:55] <magyarm> or reflash the mmc
  • [02:35:02] <prpplague> roma: bbb basically can not be bricked
  • [02:35:12] <prpplague> roma: you just need to create a uSD image to reload
  • [02:35:23] <magyarm> there is nothing there for it to boot, so just re-write your image to an sdcard and start over
  • [02:35:28] <muriani> ah, the people that know more than me!
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  • [02:35:59] <roma> I use bricked for lack of a better word. I can't boot and I don't get any display output and I can't boot from mmc.
  • [02:35:59] <magyarm> muriani: it's just 'cause I have seen "CCCCCCC..." way too many times :P
  • [02:36:20] <muriani> I've got an oldschool beagle, not the bone/black
  • [02:36:23] <magyarm> roma: create a fresh sd card image and go from there
  • [02:36:27] <muriani> not even xM >_<
  • [02:37:25] <roma> magyarm: ok. I will try that again. Perhaps, I didn't do it right?
  • [02:39:44] <magyarm> roma: if your on a linux machine, did you sync before ejecting the drive? I used to forget to do that after writing to the sd card and would get CCCCC's every time
  • [02:40:43] <roma> I umount, so it should wait for writes. I could try and force it with sync though
  • [02:41:21] <roma> can you point me to the best tutorial for this? Maybe I followed wrong instructions
  • [02:41:45] <magyarm> before you umount run sync
  • [02:41:55] <Kernle> Hmm, is there any way to create a BBB VM by any chance?
  • [02:43:09] <roma> magyarm: ok. can I go straight to installing debian from sd?
  • [02:43:58] <magyarm> roma: yes. Just write the flasher image to the sd card
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  • [02:44:39] <roma> magyarm: ok. Will do. Thank for help
  • [02:46:18] <magyarm> roma: I've always liked Robert Nelson's write ups for loading images. If you haven't seen it yet, look at this page: http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
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  • [02:53:43] <muriani> I tend to refer to his documentation as well for beagle and panda. Good stuff.
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  • [05:30:39] <Rameez> hello all, i have a question i would like to ask. Is BBB with linux kernel version 3.8+ available with PM options enable in it?
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  • [05:58:47] <bbseven> New to beaglebone here. Trying unsuccessfully to get npm to install a module for node.js. Can anyone help?
  • [05:59:06] <_av500_> jkridner: ^^^
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  • [06:07:19] <MobileWill> Anyone know how to use emmc-prepare to flash a custom angstrom build to the emmc of a BBB?
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  • [06:08:05] <MobileWill> I have a working sd card but need to copy to the eMMC
  • [06:08:08] <Vaizki> MobileWill: it's just a shell script and not a long one at that
  • [06:08:47] <MobileWill> right, should just be able to change the name of the image to use right?
  • [06:09:55] <Vaizki> well I would recommend a) read b) understand it .. :)
  • [06:10:13] <MobileWill> i am trying
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  • [06:10:30] <MobileWill> paths look wrong in their
  • [06:10:42] <MobileWill> there
  • [06:11:42] <Vaizki> I am an arch linux user so I've never used those scripts
  • [06:12:32] <MobileWill> All i orginally needed what angrtom bases on yotco 1.4 so that I can bitbake a recipe that only works with 1.4
  • [06:12:37] <Vaizki> if I have a working SD with arch on it and I want to copy it to emmc, I just boot, partition & format emmc, then copy over the file systems and set up the boot files manually
  • [06:12:38] <MobileWill> the stock angstrom is 1.3
  • [06:12:40] <MobileWill> so annoying
  • [06:13:17] <MobileWill> You make it sound so easy lol
  • [06:14:06] <Vaizki> well that's really all there is to linux on BBB, you don't even need to install grub or anything...
  • [06:14:57] <MobileWill> well that work if I am booted from the sd card or am i copying the tar rootfs image
  • [06:15:13] <MobileWill> which dev is the emmc
  • [06:16:38] <Vaizki> /dev/mmcblk1 I think when booting from uSD
  • [06:16:52] <Vaizki> not 100% sure it's been a while since I set them up
  • [06:17:31] <Vaizki> but if you boot from uSD, just type 'lsblk' and you will see all block devices and also which of them are mounted somewhere
  • [06:17:48] <Vaizki> and those mounted ones are from uSD naturally
  • [06:17:52] <MobileWill> okay, i am writing my good sd card image back to the sd card
  • [06:18:24] <Vaizki> do you have a working install on the eMMC?
  • [06:18:29] <MobileWill> yeah
  • [06:18:45] <MobileWill> its the lastest angstrom build
  • [06:18:57] <MobileWill> the emmc-flasher one
  • [06:19:46] <Vaizki> ok so what I'd do is boot from uSD, mkfs over the root partition on the eMMC to wipe out that instal, then untar your rootfs tarball into that clean filesystem... and you should be done
  • [06:20:08] <Vaizki> unless ??ngstr??m is completely different from arch :)
  • [06:20:10] <MobileWill> so i don't need to mess with the boto partition
  • [06:20:13] <MobileWill> boot
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  • [06:20:58] <MobileWill> i have uimage and MLO files
  • [06:21:19] <Vaizki> probably not, you can mount it and check uEnv.txt to see if the kernel and DTB paths look ok
  • [06:22:03] <MobileWill> k
  • [06:22:11] <MobileWill> will try as soon as the sd card is done writing
  • [06:22:18] <MobileWill> almost half way
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  • [06:24:12] <MobileWill> what i get for using a 16gb sd card lol
  • [06:24:13] <Vaizki> of course it could be that ??ngstr??m just uses default paths compiled into uboot for everything an uEnv.txt will be pretty bare
  • [06:24:15] <MobileWill> taking forever
  • [06:24:26] <Vaizki> the image writing always takes the same time I think
  • [06:24:34] <Vaizki> it only uses part of your uSD
  • [06:24:42] <MobileWill> i think it might be, if i remember its only has a line that is =quiet
  • [06:25:23] <MobileWill> yeah but i captured entire image just in case and then i was going to test something so i flashed the regular build but now i am writing my build back on
  • [06:25:41] <MobileWill> it speed up now
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  • [06:38:06] <MobileWill> okay booted up the BBB from the SD
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  • [06:40:32] <MobileWill> argh no package mkfs, what is the package name for it
  • [06:42:40] <MobileWill> found mkfs.minix
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  • [06:44:31] <MobileWill> argh
  • [06:45:25] <MobileWill> lsblk isn't there either
  • [06:45:45] <MobileWill> so much easier just to run from the sd card
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  • [07:02:44] <TA> I am having diffculty re-imaging the SD card for my Beaglebone using Win32DiskImager
  • [07:03:49] <TA> I got an error "An error occurred when attempting to lock the volume Error5:access is denied
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  • [08:11:09] <suihkulokki> is the xf86-video-omap now able replace xf86-video-omapfb in all usecases?
  • [08:15:45] <av500> *all*?
  • [08:17:42] <suihkulokki> as in, if we remove xf86-video-omapfb, will anyone complain?
  • [08:18:00] <av500> honestly, I have no idea
  • [08:18:10] <honestly> me neither!
  • [08:18:44] <av500> lol
  • [08:18:49] <suihkulokki> x)
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  • [08:56:33] <Quinto> hi for enable a device to BOOT i set in uEnv.txt in /boot: optargs=run_hardware_tests quiet capemgr.enable_partno=BB-UART2
  • [08:56:39] <Quinto> but it dont start
  • [08:57:17] <Quinto> at start, i must enable it manually with eco BB-UART2 > /sys/devices/bone_capmgr.9/slots
  • [08:57:27] <Quinto> some help?
  • [08:57:41] <woglinde> is run_hardware_tests a kernel cmdline parameter
  • [08:57:43] <woglinde> ?
  • [09:00:06] <Quinto> was in default uEnv.txt
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  • [09:00:16] <Quinto> i have added capemgr.enable_partno=BB-UART2
  • [09:05:20] <Quinto> woglinde: i must remove run_hardware_tests?
  • [09:05:59] <woglinde> I dont know
  • [09:06:05] <woglinde> never saw such before
  • [09:06:12] <woglinde> but you could grep the kernel sources
  • [09:06:32] <Quinto> how?
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  • [09:11:34] <woglinde> clone the sources
  • [09:11:39] <woglinde> git grep run_hardware_tests
  • [09:11:54] <Quinto> on board or on my pc?
  • [09:12:04] <Quinto> i have board with eMMC with angstrom original
  • [09:12:07] <Quinto> of default
  • [09:12:31] <Quinto> but when i change uEnv, added capemgr.enable_partno=BB-UART2
  • [09:12:34] <Quinto> it dont start
  • [09:12:59] <Quinto> i must do it manually
  • [09:13:07] <Quinto> with echo BB-UART2 ecc...
  • [09:13:20] <woglinde> *sigh*
  • [09:13:27] <Quinto> i've also try to remove run_hardware_tests
  • [09:13:38] <Quinto> but same
  • [09:14:54] <Quinto> you can help me pls?
  • [09:16:46] <av500> what does not start?
  • [09:16:52] <av500> pastebin a full boot log
  • [09:16:55] <av500> all of dmesg
  • [09:18:31] <woglinde> gm av500
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  • [09:19:16] <Quinto> av500: i enable correctly uart2 with echo bb-uart2 ecc..... but i want it enabled at boot, i modified my uEnv.txt: optargs=quiet capemgr.enable_partno=BB-UART2 but UART2 dont is enabled!
  • [09:20:21] <av500> yes, you said that
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  • [09:21:14] <Quinto> how take full boot log?
  • [09:21:19] <Quinto> at start i dont view boot
  • [09:21:32] <Quinto> why it is plugged on my pc with SSH connection
  • [09:21:49] <Quinto> with miniusb cable
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  • [09:22:30] <av500> 1) get a serial connection
  • [09:22:37] <av500> 2) type "dmesg" and pastebin the output
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  • [09:24:35] <lomby92> hi
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  • [09:25:10] <Quinto> av500: you mean serial connection on miniusb cable?
  • [09:25:17] <av500> serial
  • [09:25:25] <av500> but dmesg is fine for now
  • [09:25:26] <Quinto> i dont have serial on BBB
  • [09:25:37] <Quinto> microusb port?
  • [09:25:44] <av500> you have serial
  • [09:25:47] <av500> 6 pin header
  • [09:25:52] <av500> [10:24] <av500> but dmesg is fine for now
  • [09:26:00] <Quinto> then i dont have cable
  • [09:26:06] <Quinto> 6pin-usb
  • [09:26:50] <av500> [10:24] <av500> but dmesg is fine for now
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  • [09:27:25] <av500> now stop arguing and get to work
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  • [09:27:32] <Quinto> http://pastebin.com/Qnbptne8
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  • [09:28:02] <av500> useless
  • [09:28:05] <av500> do it right after boot
  • [09:28:14] <Quinto> ah ok
  • [09:28:19] <av500> this is flooded with RNDIS crap
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  • [09:29:03] <lomby92> who use the microHDMI output?
  • [09:29:29] <av500> some
  • [09:29:34] <av500> that question is useless
  • [09:30:05] <Quinto> http://pastebin.com/0jWurJku
  • [09:30:15] <Quinto> is same
  • [09:30:18] <Quinto> after reboot
  • [09:30:22] <Quinto> dmesg >> dmesg.txt
  • [09:30:24] <Quinto> is same!
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  • [09:31:24] <lomby92> my BBB don't display anythings if i plug microHDMI when i power it with USB
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  • [09:31:36] <av500> what is connected?
  • [09:32:30] <Quinto> gen_ndis_query_resp: RNDIS_OID_GEN_RCV_NO_BUFFER
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  • [09:35:56] <av500> sorry, hard to debug this way, the rndis crap floods the kernel log
  • [09:36:30] <Quinto> and how i can do?
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  • [09:36:50] <Quinto> av500: script at start LOL :D
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  • [09:37:59] <mikiya_okuno> hello everyone
  • [09:38:15] <lomby92> hello
  • [09:38:53] <Quinto> in slots i view enabled HDMI and eMMC
  • [09:38:56] <Quinto> only
  • [09:39:00] <Quinto> but no my UART2
  • [09:39:01] <Quinto> :(
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  • [09:39:41] <lomby92> anyone use the microHDMI output of the BBB??
  • [09:40:03] <mikiya_okuno> is there a photo library of BBB which i can redistribute on my blog etc? should i take a photo of my own?
  • [09:40:47] <KotH> mikiya_okuno: just use one from beagleborad.org
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  • [09:41:03] <KotH> mikiya_okuno: i'm quite sure nobody minds using them for promoting bbb
  • [09:41:15] <mikiya_okuno> KotH: oh, i see. thanks.
  • [09:41:41] <mikiya_okuno> KotH: btw, this is my own: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5700319/2013-11-07%2014.27.56.jpg
  • [09:41:57] <KotH> mikiya_okuno: zerg rush! :)
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  • [09:42:13] <mikiya_okuno> hehe
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  • [09:44:24] <lomby92> any answer?
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  • [09:45:26] <KotH> lomby92: 42
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  • [09:46:07] <av500> Quinto: yes, you can load it with a script at boot
  • [09:46:34] <lomby92> KotH: what?
  • [09:46:45] <av500> [10:30] <av500> what is connected?
  • [09:46:50] <dm8tbr> that's a valid answer, 42
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  • [09:46:57] <lomby92> -.-
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  • [09:47:06] <dm8tbr> it answers life, the universe and everything!
  • [09:47:09] <dm8tbr> no less
  • [09:47:20] <Quinto> av500:
  • [09:47:27] <Quinto> i've resolve without script!
  • [09:47:28] <Tenkawa> greetings al
  • [09:47:31] <Tenkawa> l
  • [09:47:47] <Tenkawa> any of you running thee 3.12 kernel branch and got usb working?
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  • [09:47:59] <Tenkawa> on a bbb
  • [09:48:24] <Tenkawa> usb and cpufreq seem to be flaking out on me
  • [09:48:30] <Tenkawa> 3.8 works fine
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  • [09:49:29] <Tenkawa> trying a 3.11 compile now to aee how it looks too
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  • [09:50:28] <lomby92> any of you have try the OpenCV on BBB? How works?
  • [09:51:03] <av500> works like openCV
  • [09:51:08] <av500> it's slow on a slow CPU
  • [09:51:13] <Tenkawa> av500: heh
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  • [09:52:08] <Tenkawa> so any of you distcc'ing much?
  • [09:52:54] <Tenkawa> works fairly nicely on a mix of bbb's and rpi's
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  • [09:54:23] <av500> mostly I use my I7 :)
  • [09:54:43] <Tenkawa> av500: yeah yeah... i'm trying to do amap natively
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  • [09:56:15] <Tenkawa> av500: only time i even use anything besides these and my tablet i ssh with is when something horribly breaks and i need a usb connection (now even one of my rpis is outfitted with a card reader to avoid that mostly)
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  • [10:02:01] <Tenkawa> oooh.. ccache with distcc..even better
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  • [10:03:35] <Tenkawa> av500: if you dont mind me asking.. whats your preferres distro for the arm boxes?
  • [10:03:42] <Tenkawa> er preferres
  • [10:03:46] <Tenkawa> er preferred
  • [10:05:05] * Tenkawa runs slackware on everything
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  • [10:09:55] <av500> mostly homebrew
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  • [10:10:43] <Tenkawa> av500: ahh
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  • [10:33:20] <KotH> he said rpi! stone him!
  • [10:33:43] <woglinde> and slackware
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  • [10:35:53] <KotH> volkerding him!
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  • [10:39:18] <av500> and distcc, node.js him
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  • [11:01:40] <Kasim> Hi friends does anyone have bootloader MLO file for beagleboneblack
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  • [11:01:53] <woglinde> google has
  • [11:01:57] <woglinde> and so you
  • [11:02:05] <woglinde> and the NSA for sure
  • [11:02:24] <Kasim> I didnt find will you give me a link
  • [11:02:57] <ynezz> mlo.warez.com
  • [11:04:09] <Kasim> the site is not opening
  • [11:04:49] <woglinde> Kasim why you need MLO only?
  • [11:05:17] <Kasim> for running a blink program on BBB
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  • [11:06:57] <Kasim> @woglinde do you hae any idea
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  • [11:07:55] <woglinde> yes
  • [11:07:56] <woglinde> https://s3.amazonaws.com/angstrom/demo/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.08.21.img.xz
  • [11:08:01] <woglinde> contains mlo
  • [11:08:16] <woglinde> aeh oh blink program?
  • [11:08:53] <Kasim> Sir i dont want to use cloud9
  • [11:09:09] <woglinde> it contains mlo
  • [11:09:34] <Kasim> wanna run the BBB using MMCSD containing bootloader
  • [11:09:46] <woglinde> yes
  • [11:09:54] <Kasim> and the <app>
  • [11:09:59] <woglinde> yes
  • [11:10:14] <woglinde> it has mlo
  • [11:10:18] <woglinde> and u-boot
  • [11:10:20] <woglinde> and kernel
  • [11:10:23] <woglinde> and cloud stuff
  • [11:10:29] <Kasim> well its downloading i'll see it thank you very much sir
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  • [11:38:56] <bunny> hi all
  • [11:39:11] <bunny> how to add the patch to the kernel
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  • [11:39:15] * KotH slaughters the bunny and prepares some stew for everyone
  • [11:39:55] <Guest81785> how to manage the patches using git
  • [11:40:03] <KotH> this is no git support channel
  • [11:40:11] <KotH> please read the git documentation or buy a book on git
  • [11:40:28] <KotH> also send woglinde some swiss chocolate. he likes it :)
  • [11:40:51] <Guest81785> ok
  • [11:41:13] <Guest81785> how to read the address data in i2c in eeprom
  • [11:42:16] <Guest81785> how the gpio is managed in beaglebone to interface the eeprom
  • [11:42:28] <das> are you afraid of documentation ?
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  • [11:42:44] <Guest81785> yaaaa
  • [11:43:39] <Guest81785> i am not getting the correct patah to understand how it works
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  • [11:44:08] <KotH> learn how to clap with only one hand
  • [11:44:44] <fra> hello all, how long it takes to setup lighttpd?
  • [11:45:15] <fra> hours?
  • [11:45:47] <Guest81785> ok i will practice that thing also
  • [11:46:55] <Guest81785> ok what is the diffrence between i2c and i2s
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  • [11:49:35] <fra> use i2s, for audio communications
  • [11:49:55] <fra> DAC ecc ecc
  • [11:50:34] <fra> i2c for standard data, eeprom, and other device
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  • [11:54:02] <av500> too lazy to use google?
  • [11:54:10] <av500> fra: minutes?
  • [11:56:33] <woglinde> fra opkg update
  • [11:56:37] <woglinde> opkg install lightdm
  • [11:56:45] <woglinde> than some minutes to configure ir
  • [11:56:46] <woglinde> it
  • [11:56:51] <woglinde> ups
  • [11:56:55] <woglinde> lighttp
  • [11:56:58] <woglinde> not lightdm
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  • [11:57:52] <fra> woglinde: you're right
  • [11:58:58] <fra> @av500, woglinde: I try opkg install lighttp
  • [11:59:07] <fra> tnks
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  • [12:00:04] <mark4> is there some way i can run memtest on my beagle board xm?
  • [12:00:26] <av500> uboot has one I think
  • [12:00:56] <av500> why would you?
  • [12:00:58] <mark4> so hit enter at boot and run a command there?
  • [12:01:14] <mark4> because im getting some very funky things happening with my compiler im developing
  • [12:01:56] <woglinde> mark4 you are to special
  • [12:02:02] <woglinde> and your compiler
  • [12:02:20] <mark4> woglinde, if you have anything positive to say go ahead, knock yourself out
  • [12:02:33] <woglinde> hm it was neutral
  • [12:02:40] <mark4> no it wasnt
  • [12:02:43] <mark4> it was passive aggressive
  • [12:02:48] <mark4> thers a difference
  • [12:02:48] <woglinde> and hint that maybe nobody here can help you
  • [12:03:07] <woglinde> maybe av500 knows some forth
  • [12:03:10] <mark4> you not wanting to help equates to nobody can... got it
  • [12:03:11] <woglinde> I am not
  • [12:03:12] <fra> woglinde: root@beaglebone:~# opkg install lighttp Unknown package 'lighttp'.
  • [12:03:31] <woglinde> fra opkg update
  • [12:03:40] <woglinde> fra opkg list | grep lighttp
  • [12:03:42] <fra> yes
  • [12:03:47] <fra> ah!
  • [12:03:49] <fra> ok ok
  • [12:03:55] <woglinde> than opkg install the right package
  • [12:03:56] <fra> sorry
  • [12:04:00] <woglinde> so I am off
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  • [12:05:39] <av500> mark4: I doubt memory issues
  • [12:06:14] <mark4> av500, well i know i have bugs but code that works 2432454 times in a row suddenly segfaults after compiling a certain amount of code
  • [12:07:25] <mark4> av500, would you be willing to run my code on your xm if you have one to tell me if it falls over in the same place?
  • [12:07:34] <mark4> im not asking you to debug my code :)
  • [12:07:48] <av500> I know you would not ask that :)
  • [12:07:55] <av500> uboot has mtest
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  • [12:08:42] <av500> so it segfauls at the same place?
  • [12:08:46] <av500> consistently?
  • [12:08:46] <mark4> why would you not suspect memory issues?
  • [12:08:58] <av500> experience
  • [12:09:27] <mark4> well actually its not segfaulting it compiles some sources and just HANGS in the same place. i run it through ddd and in there it segfaults
  • [12:09:52] <av500> and other SW runs fine?
  • [12:09:52] <mark4> i.e. i put a break just prior to where it hangs, run it in gdb and single step and.. segfault
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  • [12:10:08] <mark4> hmm actually emerge gcc worked just fine
  • [12:10:11] <mark4> good point
  • [12:10:14] <av500> well
  • [12:10:20] <av500> as I said :)
  • [12:10:21] <mark4> crap
  • [12:10:33] <av500> rule #1: always blame your own code first
  • [12:10:36] <mark4> emerge gcc is a MUCH better mem test than any dedicated memtest
  • [12:10:48] <mark4> av500 i do. ive been debugging this one for 10 hours a day for the past 3 days
  • [12:10:52] <pavel_> hi all, is it possible to use BeagleBone as USB HID Camera device?
  • [12:10:54] <mark4> im clutching at straws now
  • [12:11:03] <av500> pavel_: yes
  • [12:11:03] <pavel_> i want to emulate web camera
  • [12:11:08] <av500> yes
  • [12:11:10] <mark4> av500 wanna debug my code??? :P~
  • [12:11:11] <mark4> lol
  • [12:11:12] <pavel_> av500: how)
  • [12:11:21] <av500> dunno
  • [12:11:34] <av500> technically its possible
  • [12:11:38] <av500> maybe SW needs to be written
  • [12:11:55] <av500> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/gadget_hid.txt
  • [12:12:07] <pavel_> by the way, if i have samsung tv which recognize only Samsung cameras... is it possible to let raspbery pi (which will act as camera hid device) to be recgnized as samsung camera?
  • [12:12:33] <av500> this is no rpi channel
  • [12:12:34] <pavel_> as i know any other web cameras is not recognized
  • [12:12:41] <av500> its all SW
  • [12:12:50] <av500> so most likely the answer is yes
  • [12:13:14] <ogra_> if you route the signal from the RPi through the BBB then this question will work for this channel ;)
  • [12:13:59] <pavel_> av500: sounds looks good) but i have no idea where to begin
  • [12:14:32] <av500> the usb gadget framework
  • [12:14:41] <av500> is where you start
  • [12:14:46] <av500> see what is there
  • [12:14:50] <av500> and what needs to be added
  • [12:14:55] <pavel_> i have raspbery pi now only, and as i know, raspbery pi couldnot opperate as hid client (only host)
  • [12:14:59] <av500> TI has camera HID for e, DM386
  • [12:16:51] <pavel_> av500: that's why i've found BeagleBone could act as hid client, is it true?
  • [12:17:22] <pavel_> cause it has 1 usb slave port..
  • [12:18:49] <KotH> pavel_: the rpi can act as a usb device, but then none of the periphery would work, because the whole design of the rpi is totally fucked up
  • [12:19:55] <pavel_> KotH: rpi as i know has not usb slave port -> it means it could not operate as hid device for PC.. (mouse, keboard, ...etc..)
  • [12:20:05] <pavel_> it has only usb host
  • [12:20:16] <KotH> pavel_: yes
  • [12:20:23] <KotH> pavel_: exactly
  • [12:20:25] <pavel_> KotH: BeagleBone could act as hid client, is it true?
  • [12:20:29] <KotH> sure
  • [12:20:36] <KotH> you just need to programm it correctly
  • [12:20:40] <KotH> it's all in your head
  • [12:20:44] <KotH> er.. i mean in software
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  • [12:21:03] <pavel_> KotH: could u help me how could i implement BeagleBone act as usb HID Camera with specific pid&vid to be recognized by Samsung TV?
  • [12:21:11] <mark4> av500 btw, the opcode that ddd segfaults on is not a memory access, its a "mov r0, r1" opcode that has already executed 3434245234524 or more times before the failure
  • [12:21:34] <pavel_> KotH: or, it's not possible?
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  • [12:22:51] <roh_> hi
  • [12:23:11] <KotH> pavel_: no, i dont have the time to help you
  • [12:23:20] <KotH> pavel_: but you can hire me, if you need help
  • [12:23:36] <pavel_> KotH: i mean where i could start? and learn?
  • [12:23:41] <KotH> uhmm...
  • [12:23:58] <KotH> google for "linux usb device" or something similar
  • [12:24:04] <pavel_> KotH: after bying BeagleBon
  • [12:24:08] <KotH> there is a ton of documentation for that kind of stuff
  • [12:24:17] <pavel_> KotH: hm hm...
  • [12:24:24] <KotH> the Documentation directory of the kernel contains also quite a bit of information
  • [12:24:37] <av500> [13:12] <pavel_> av500: sounds looks good) but i have no idea where to begin
  • [12:24:38] <av500> [13:13] <av500> the usb gadget framework
  • [12:24:40] <KotH> you should also have a look that the usb standard
  • [12:24:40] <av500> [13:13] <av500> is where you start
  • [12:24:41] <av500> [13:13] <av500> see what is there
  • [12:24:43] <av500> [13:13] <av500> and what needs to be added
  • [12:24:44] <av500> [13:10] <av500> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/gadget_hid.txt
  • [12:24:58] <KotH> pavel_: what av500 said
  • [12:26:01] <KotH> pavel_: also worship av500, he is one of the holy gatekeepers of #beagle
  • [12:26:05] <pavel_> av500: where is usb gadget framwwork?
  • [12:26:09] <roh_> I am having a beagle board xm, I am very new to it. I googled about getting started guides. but it looks different from each other. can you please suggest a good material to refer?
  • [12:26:36] <KotH> pavel_: you know how to google?
  • [12:26:36] <av500> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/usb/gadget/uvc_video.c
  • [12:26:42] <KotH> av500: lol
  • [12:26:42] <av500> pavel_: in the kernel
  • [12:26:50] <av500> pavel_: as the url would have told you
  • [12:26:57] <av500> https://www.KERNEL.org/doc/Documentation/usb/gadget_hid.txt
  • [12:27:03] <KotH> roh_: read a couple of them, understand what they are doing and try the one that looks the best
  • [12:27:17] <KotH> roh_: if you fail, try to understand why you fail, if you cannot try the next method
  • [12:28:24] <roh_> Thank u kotH, but i would apperitiate if u can suggest a best and simple way, bkse of lack of time to complete my projct
  • [12:28:46] <av500> there is no best and simple way
  • [12:28:49] <KotH> roh_: sorry, there is no quick way
  • [12:28:52] <eggzeck-laptop> roh_: What is "bkse"?
  • [12:28:56] <av500> what project?
  • [12:29:03] <av500> university?
  • [12:29:05] <roh_> its because
  • [12:29:08] <av500> ask your supervisor
  • [12:29:08] <KotH> roh_: learning is always a long, tedious and also labor intensive work
  • [12:29:15] <eggzeck-laptop> wow...
  • [12:29:17] <av500> did you pick the project?
  • [12:29:55] <roh_> yes... it is some image processing application with opencv
  • [12:30:19] <pavel_> av500: thanks for sharing the links
  • [12:30:22] <av500> basically its a small linux machine
  • [12:30:24] <pavel_> i will learning
  • [12:30:36] <av500> all the linux and opencv knowledge applies
  • [12:30:52] <av500> specifics might be different
  • [12:31:02] <av500> youll see when you get there
  • [12:31:21] <pavel_> first thing is to investigate standart web camera hid descriptor to use later it in BeagleBox fw, right?
  • [12:31:45] <av500> [13:25] <av500> http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/usb/gadget/uvc_video.c
  • [12:31:56] <eggzeck-laptop> This board-ganizer is not that great...
  • [12:32:10] <av500> also, why HID?
  • [12:32:16] <av500> since when is camera part of HID?
  • [12:32:48] <roh_> can you sugest which camera does support with beagle board xm? I found few leopard imaging cams... But are there any cheaper cameras support for xm?
  • [12:33:07] <av500> usb cameras
  • [12:33:24] <pavel_> i want act beagle bone act as hid camera for tv
  • [12:33:34] <av500> i know
  • [12:33:36] <pavel_> to change camera's feed by stream from local file
  • [12:33:37] <av500> you said so
  • [12:33:53] <pavel_> that's why
  • [12:35:18] <roh_> Thank you
  • [12:35:58] <av500> its either USB or leopard imaging
  • [12:37:26] <eggzeck-laptop> What is an HID camera?
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  • [12:38:03] <av500> one that watches your keyboard
  • [12:38:04] <pavel_> eggzeck-laptop: i mean hid device == usb web camera
  • [12:38:31] <eggzeck-laptop> Oh I see, I was a bit confused.
  • [12:38:42] <av500> that is part of the test
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  • [12:39:18] <eggzeck-laptop> hah - haven't slept all night working on my project... Start to hallucinate
  • [12:39:28] <eggzeck-laptop> starting*
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  • [12:39:40] <KotH> too much blood in your coffeestream?
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  • [12:40:28] <eggzeck-laptop> hah - I think I've become immune to its affects
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  • [13:10:04] <eggzeck-laptop> Man, I love my BBB... Why didn't I get one sooner?
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  • [13:19:02] <Kasim> Hi friends does any one have MLO file for BeagleBone Black
  • [13:22:10] <prpplague> Kasim: one is in every version of the official angstrom images
  • [13:22:52] <KotH> prpplague: he asked the same a couple hours ago, where one of our german friends answered him
  • [13:23:02] <KotH> prpplague: he didnt seem to like the answer though
  • [13:24:10] <Kasim> yes but that link not working sir
  • [13:24:44] <av500> what link?
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  • [13:27:22] <Kasim> the lik given to me for ref its not been able to download
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  • [13:27:51] <av500> what link?
  • [13:28:43] <Kasim> the link given by german friend sir for me to download MLO file
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  • [13:29:04] <av500> what link?
  • [13:29:06] <av500> what link?
  • [13:29:22] <av500> can you tell us the FUCKING link?
  • [13:30:17] <KotH> 12:07 < woglinde> https://s3.amazonaws.com/angstrom/demo/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.08.21.img.xz
  • [13:30:20] <KotH> 12:08 < woglinde> contains mlo
  • [13:30:32] <KotH> and the link works
  • [13:30:46] <KotH> at least it does on this side of the seas of bits
  • [13:31:01] <winocm> http://cl.ly/image/3A1h3x262z35
  • [13:31:06] <winocm> i'll drop that here ;P
  • [13:31:31] <av500> is that Kristina_'s stuff?
  • [13:32:08] <KotH> winocm: be carefull with posting pr0n in this family-unfriendly channel!
  • [13:32:09] <winocm> that's mine
  • [13:32:31] <winocm> i did my own port
  • [13:32:35] <av500> ah
  • [13:32:45] <av500> where is apple maps?
  • [13:33:19] <winocm> sadly, not there yet :(
  • [13:33:28] <winocm> i just got a semi-reliable userland working yesterday
  • [13:33:30] <av500> you got lost?
  • [13:33:47] <prpplague> i see a flyswatter
  • [13:34:36] <winocm> yeah
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  • [13:51:41] <fra> in the angstrom distr. which editor works?
  • [13:52:16] <KotH> all of them
  • [13:52:22] <KotH> ok, maybe not notepad
  • [13:52:56] <fra> vi, gedit
  • [13:53:05] <fra> or?
  • [13:53:29] <fra> vi and gedit, not work
  • [13:53:36] <fra> gedit pippo
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  • [13:54:07] <fra> I'm in ssh...
  • [13:54:47] <fra> okay, I try in local mode
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  • [13:56:29] <fra> in local mode, vi work, gedit not
  • [13:57:31] <av500> local mode?
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  • [14:00:06] <fra> sorry, without ssh...
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  • [14:05:19] <KotH> fra: so, you are trying to run an editor that requires x11 without providing x11 in any way?
  • [14:05:45] <KotH> fra: that's like requesting a bowl of soup without the bowl
  • [14:06:57] <fra> KotH: I understand you are a beginner, you wonder if you can help
  • [14:07:56] <keesj_> with ssh you can often ssh -X host (to do x forwarding) if you are runing a X server locally
  • [14:08:11] <fra> I only ask you to be patient, if I ask stupid questions, but I'm studying
  • [14:08:16] <das> http://www.viva64.com/en/a/0083/ <= on the Toyota embedded SW failure
  • [14:08:37] <fra> keesj_: thanks
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  • [14:09:09] <das> (there's more at embeddedgurus/michaelbarr for those interested)
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  • [14:29:27] <fra> for view the systemctl services, how do?
  • [14:29:53] <fra> I have necessiti to disable the bone101
  • [14:30:28] <av500> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/
  • [14:30:32] <av500> see manuals there
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  • [14:30:59] <av500> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemctl.html
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  • [14:32:01] <fra> @av500: tnks
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  • [14:59:22] <fra> how to disable the webserver: http://192.168.0.105/Support/bone101/
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  • [14:59:47] <fra> the service is? bone101.service, i not found
  • [15:00:23] <jkridner> systemctl disable bonescript
  • [15:00:39] <jkridner> I think it used to be called bone101, but was renamed to bonescript in newer images.
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  • [15:01:47] <fra> ok, try to find in systemctl
  • [15:03:40] <fra> @jkridner: systemctl disable bonescript.service, not stop webserver, it work
  • [15:04:06] <jkridner> oh... right, forgot.... 'systemctl disable bonescript.socket'
  • [15:04:14] <jkridner> you need to disable the socket listner.
  • [15:04:25] <fra> @jkridner: okay try
  • [15:04:33] <jkridner> otherwise, it'll just restart when you access the socket.
  • [15:06:22] <fra> becouse it run more?
  • [15:06:48] <fra> I try with systemctl disable bonescript.socket
  • [15:11:09] <fra> bonescript.service loaded active running Bonescript server
  • [15:11:23] <fra> it not sto, why?
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  • [15:21:56] <jkridner> did you also do 'systemctl stop bonescript.service' or reboot?
  • [15:22:07] <fra> yes yes
  • [15:23:04] <fra> with stop, and disable, service webserver is down
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  • [15:23:29] <fra> @jkridner: tanks
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  • [16:41:27] <steve1_> has anyone had any trouble with the kali image
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  • [17:14:18] <das> everyone's going home and I'm here correcting C++
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  • [17:20:31] <djlewis> das: more fun than you ought be allowed.
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  • [17:31:45] <das> djlewis: put me out of my misery. Make me do some java
  • [17:32:30] <das> cloud java for android would be the best
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  • [17:49:12] <Tenkawa> greetings..
  • [17:49:29] <Tenkawa> anyone running a bbb on the 3.12 kernel tree?
  • [17:50:13] <panto> yes
  • [17:50:28] <Tenkawa> panto: had any luck getting usb to work?
  • [17:50:42] <panto> haven't tried really
  • [17:50:58] <Tenkawa> does lsusb give you a libusb error?
  • [17:50:59] <panto> it might work
  • [17:51:11] <Tenkawa> (if you have it handy)
  • [17:51:27] <panto> http://pastebin.com/SXRUuwXP
  • [17:51:47] <Tenkawa> well darnit
  • [17:51:57] <Tenkawa> i wonder what i missed
  • [17:52:10] <panto> root@beaglebone:/proc# lsusb
  • [17:52:11] <panto> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1908:0225 GEMBIRD
  • [17:52:38] <panto> https://github.com/pantoniou/linux-beagle-track-mainline/tree/merge-min-20131105
  • [17:52:43] <panto> give it a try
  • [17:52:56] <panto> mmc doesn't work btw
  • [17:53:05] <Tenkawa> i've got the latest patched 3.12 from github
  • [17:53:09] <Tenkawa> interesting
  • [17:53:23] <panto> let's just say our interests are different :)
  • [17:53:30] <Tenkawa> it does for me
  • [17:53:39] <Tenkawa> both internal mmc and my sd card
  • [17:53:57] <panto> well, I'm running just minimal patches against mainline
  • [17:54:08] <panto> so I don't pick up all the drivers
  • [17:54:12] <Tenkawa> 3.12.0+ #1 SMP Thu
  • [17:54:13] <Tenkawa> ahh
  • [17:54:53] <Tenkawa> well i'll see what i can find in the patches
  • [17:55:02] <Tenkawa> everything else looks great so far
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  • [17:57:19] <Tenkawa> panto: thanks for the info though
  • [17:57:57] <panto> np
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  • [18:05:04] <Tenkawa> panto: hey do you have any modules in lsmod that look usb related?
  • [18:05:41] <panto> http://pastebin.com/ssQ50Vp0
  • [18:06:22] <Tenkawa> thanks.. i didnt compile my modules yet.. that might be giving me grief
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  • [22:49:05] <MuadDib_> Hello
  • [22:50:45] <MuadDib_> Can anyone be of assistance to me and suggest the cheapest way to buy BeagleBone Black forCountry like Bosnia and Herzegovina.
  • [22:50:58] <MuadDib_> Sorry if this is rude
  • [22:51:30] <levi> Not rude, but if no one responds, it may just be because no one here knows how to help.
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  • [22:52:58] <MuadDib_> Thank You, I am aiming at the price of 45$ but the shipping is the issue
  • [22:54:25] <bzyx> it's like the smillar problem to Poland, maybe there is a local distributor in your country
  • [22:54:45] <bzyx> i have googled a while and find a small polish local
  • [22:55:12] <bzyx> who sells bbb in a resonable price
  • [22:58:18] <MuadDib_> Thx bzyx, but there isn't
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  • [23:08:07] <ben__> I'm trying to set up an I2C interface on the BBB to a 3 axis accelerometer (MMA8452) using the Adafruit_I2C python library. The device shows up under i2cdetect, however I'm unable to read any meaning full data from the device. Does anyone have any experience with this?
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  • [23:29:37] <Quinto> hi is possible connect a LVDS Display to BBB ?
  • [23:29:42] <Quinto> there is a Capes?
  • [23:31:25] <thurgood> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_Capes <- check the ones that say bb black compatible
  • [23:33:21] <thurgood> most of them come with a lcd as well though
  • [23:34:16] <Quinto> no
  • [23:34:22] <Quinto> i have LVDS 24 pin
  • [23:34:34] <Quinto> 19''
  • [23:34:52] <Quinto> but seem that is impossible connect to BBB
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  • [23:45:47] <Quinto> i want LVDS 20 pins
  • [23:47:29] <_av500_> you need a lvds driver
  • [23:47:38] <_av500_> between the BBB and the LCD
  • [23:47:48] <_av500_> check the ones for BB XM and panda
  • [23:48:55] <Quinto> BBB dont have driveronboard?
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  • [23:53:38] <angs> rcn-ee: I built the kernel (3.12) and debian with the latest update on http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBoard , the kernel panic issue with ext4 and serial login problem is gone. however, iwconfig outputs 4 wifi interfaces where I have only 2 usb wifi device http://pastebin.com/cWiRTqkP
  • [23:54:03] <angs> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules says only wlan2 and wlan3 belongs to my devices
  • [23:54:32] <angs> do you know why wlan0 and wlan1 are reserved by default
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  • [23:56:17] <xPunxNotDeadx> hi all
  • [23:56:29] <xPunxNotDeadx> first BBB arrived today