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  • [00:46:40] <honestly> what the fuck
  • [00:46:46] <honestly> did rawrite32 just go away?
  • [00:47:00] <honestly> http://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/download.html
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  • [00:51:16] <DagoRed> not a clue
  • [00:55:50] <honestly> it's here for now: https://gepasp.in.tum.de/uploads/Rawrite32.exe
  • [00:56:11] <honestly> I'd check if I'm allowed to do that, but http://www.netbsd.org/~martin/rawrite32/license.html
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  • [01:00:49] <honestly> is it safe to remount the root fs read-only, rewrite the partition size with fdisk, and then extend the filesystem with rewrite2fs?
  • [01:00:56] <honestly> I guess no
  • [01:01:10] <honestly> resize2fs*
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  • [01:10:28] <DagoRed> honestly: Why not?
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  • [01:11:03] <honestly> because the system might become slightly upset if I change the rootfs while it's running?
  • [01:12:33] <honestly> but I suppose I might as well try
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  • [01:42:01] <georgem_home> Everyone enjoying the haggis?
  • [01:42:56] <N2TOH> thankfully no haggis here
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  • [01:45:20] <prpplague> georgem_home: will be in 48 hours
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  • [01:47:24] <RickJ> Can you use the BBB To run code instead of a OS?
  • [01:47:34] <agmlego> Sure.
  • [01:47:40] <agmlego> You can program the bare metal.
  • [01:47:50] <agmlego> OS' make things easier though.
  • [01:48:43] <RickJ> I need high reliability.
  • [01:49:08] <RickJ> How would one compile and run such code?
  • [01:49:24] <N2TOH> there is also the PRU codes that for now only run ASM/ML code
  • [01:49:32] <agmlego> ...so you are using an open-source board based on what is effectively a smartphone processor?
  • [01:49:45] <agmlego> RickJ: qI imagine like any other ARM/JTAG system.
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  • [01:50:10] <agmlego> YOu get the necessary toolchain for the ARM, and use something like OpenOCD and JTAG to dump the code in.
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  • [01:50:49] <RickJ> OK ...thanks
  • [01:52:09] <georgem_home> prpplague: The purse strings are held tightly for international travel at our company. Very conservative management/ownership :(
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  • [02:13:33] <prpplague> georgem_home: ahh
  • [02:14:08] * prpplague will never every again work for a company that does not sponsor attendence to conferences
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  • [02:24:24] <cameron__> My bbb wont load to the desktop when i boot it standalone. Any ideas?
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  • [02:27:23] <thurgood> what does it do?
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  • [02:28:41] <cameron__> I tdiplays the logo in the top left then does nothing. It was working before but then i sshed and now its stoped working. Ive even reflashed it to no avail
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  • [02:30:12] <thurgood> do you have a debug console attached?
  • [02:30:43] <cameron__> what is that
  • [02:30:47] <cameron__> no
  • [02:31:15] <thurgood> a serial console that is on the bbb
  • [02:31:53] <thurgood> it shouldn't fail just because you ssh'd in
  • [02:32:18] <thurgood> did you run anything when connected?
  • [02:32:20] <cameron__> should i give you logs?
  • [02:32:24] <cameron__> no
  • [02:32:36] <thurgood> if you have them, use pastebin.com or similar
  • [02:32:45] <cameron__> how do i get to them
  • [02:33:26] <thurgood> also, do you have an SD card inserted?
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  • [02:33:39] <cameron__> no
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  • [02:35:09] <thurgood> so it doesn't show up on your network or anything anymore?
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  • [02:35:41] <cameron__> what do you mean
  • [02:35:48] <cameron__> im doing it standalone
  • [02:35:53] <thurgood> you said you ssh'd in before
  • [02:35:55] <cameron__> without ethernet
  • [02:36:24] <cameron__> after i sshed it stoped working standalone
  • [02:36:59] <thurgood> how are you powering it?
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  • [02:37:31] <cameron__> ive tried battery and wall outlet. It worked before i sshed with batt
  • [02:37:52] <thurgood> so a 5v barrel connector?
  • [02:38:00] <cameron__> yes
  • [02:39:15] <thurgood> and nothing connected to the mini-usb?
  • [02:39:29] <cameron__> nothing on mini.
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  • [02:39:57] <thurgood> anything on the other USB?
  • [02:40:51] <cameron__> i have a logitech keyboard dongle. Again its worked before with same equip
  • [02:41:19] <thurgood> just trying to rule stuff out
  • [02:41:25] <cameron__> sorry
  • [02:42:12] <thurgood> you're sure you flashed it properly?
  • [02:42:31] <cameron__> ive reflashed it multiple times.
  • [02:43:34] <cameron__> im running a a5a bb
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  • [02:44:56] <cameron__> im going to reflash now
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  • [02:45:08] <cameron__> see if it helps
  • [02:45:14] <thurgood> which image are yo uusing?
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  • [02:45:36] <cameron__> the latest angstrom from Beagleboard.org
  • [02:45:47] <cameron__> eemc flash
  • [02:46:07] <cameron__> *emmc
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  • [02:52:27] <cameron__> writing now
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  • [02:58:07] <cameron__> flashing now
  • [02:58:59] <cameron__> still there?
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  • [03:07:37] <cameron__> no?
  • [03:10:03] <thurgood> sorry was handling something elsewhere
  • [03:10:25] <thurgood> it should take about 45 minutes to flash the angstrom image
  • [03:10:32] <cameron__> yep
  • [03:11:15] <cameron__> i formated the card to fat file system before installing the image on the micro sd
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  • [03:12:02] <mfny> this psu fine for BBB ? http://cpc.farnell.com/powerpax/psk315-05/ac-adaptor-5v-2-5a-regulated/dp/PW02348
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  • [03:13:41] <prpplague> mfny: yea depending on what capes and accessories you have attached
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  • [03:14:31] <mfny> not planing on hooking it up to much, and trying to order all the BBB stuff from same supplier if i can
  • [03:15:06] <prpplague> fascinating
  • [03:16:18] <mfny> prpplague: postage to where i am can get crazy expensive for small items heh
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  • [03:17:21] <mfny> prpplague: have been asked to play ??40 shipping for a ??35 motherboard once
  • [03:17:40] <thurgood> ouch
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  • [03:19:14] <mfny> also was once quoted ??100 shipping on a prebuilt PC, funny thing is im not in the north pole or anything
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  • [03:21:12] <cameron__> ive been charged 40 to ship a c64
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  • [03:21:24] <cameron__> $40
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  • [03:23:20] <cameron__> hmmm
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  • [03:23:34] <cameron__> only 2 out of the 4 leds are lit
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  • [03:26:40] <cameron__> any ideas?
  • [03:27:14] <thurgood> none, other than give it a bit longer :/
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  • [03:37:22] <N2TOH> flashing the eMMC? you walk the dog if you have one or go watch a movie and then then check on it afterwards
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  • [03:40:47] <mfny> for kb/mouse for beagle would one of those 2 in one wireless mini keyboard/trackpad things work ?
  • [03:42:17] <thurgood> as long as it's supported by the kernel it should
  • [03:43:16] <cameron__> well now i get a angstrom prompt but no gui
  • [03:43:27] <thurgood> I use one of those logitech universal's on an old 2.6.32 kernel
  • [03:44:01] <cameron__> how do i get the gui from prompt
  • [03:44:13] <N2TOH> startx
  • [03:45:21] <mfny> this gets mentioned alot for use with the Pi http://www.amazon.co.uk/ProMini-Wireless-Keyboard-TouchPad-Pointer/dp/B003UE52ME/
  • [03:45:37] <mfny> so i figure it should be ok on BBB ?
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  • [03:46:18] <thurgood> only one way to know for sure ~.~
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  • [03:49:13] <mfny> found some hits googling for other beagleboards so..
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  • [03:52:18] <mfny> ah, forgot that bbb has only the one USB port .. hm (what is up with this btw ?)
  • [03:52:36] <thurgood> use a hub :P
  • [03:53:00] <cameron__> whats the bbb comand for gui?
  • [03:53:28] <thurgood> they saved money everywhere they could to get the price down where it is
  • [03:54:15] <mfny> thurgood: i know, but the pastry based board manages 2 ports.. just sayin :)
  • [03:54:32] <thurgood> heh
  • [03:54:56] <cameron__> Does anyone know the BBB gui command?
  • [03:55:44] <thurgood> cameron did you try startx... that works with some distros
  • [03:56:51] <cameron__> i thought it had gnome and not x
  • [03:57:21] <thurgood> gnome is a X-Windows manager
  • [03:57:29] <N2TOH> cameron__, type "startx" after you log into the BBB
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  • [03:57:49] <N2TOH> if it's installed it should start up
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  • [04:01:23] <mfny> bah, ill do the SSH shell thing for the time being, cost mounts up when you add HDMI cables,kb/m and a hub etc
  • [04:01:52] <thurgood> too true
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  • [04:05:45] <mfny> just got to decide on a home(case) for the BBB, adafruit, phenoptix or Logic Supply
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  • [04:31:57] <cameron__> well now im not getting any status lights
  • [04:32:05] <cameron__> i think i brokje it
  • [04:32:20] <cameron__> just power
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  • [05:01:24] <Guest40422> Hi ALL, i am new to BBB i try to load customize image from SD card, i pressed USER/BOOT button, but it allways showing old image version
  • [05:02:05] <Guest40422> the LEDs glowing reading sd card i waited one hour all four leds are not glowing
  • [05:02:30] <Guest40422> with this BBB i am not able to do anything for me everything blocking
  • [05:02:57] <Guest40422> i tried to access analog inputs in P9 header i did not find any help to map those analog inputs
  • [05:03:46] <Guest40422> please help some one, send me BBB contact for support
  • [05:04:42] <mrpackethead> someone_cares_about_you@bbbsupport.com
  • [05:04:53] <mrpackethead> <snigger>
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  • [05:46:05] <magyarm> Guest40422: I suggest starting here: http://hipstercircuits.com/reading-analog-adc-values-on-beaglebone-black/. It is an excellent write up of what you need to do
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  • [05:52:56] <rags> hello all
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  • [05:53:17] <Guest78421> i am facing issue with minicom!!!
  • [05:53:34] <Guest78421> i am getting some junk texts when i boot the board
  • [05:54:39] <magyarm> that's just minicom :P try screen
  • [05:55:15] <Guest78421> i have set the baud rate as per mentiond
  • [05:55:25] <Guest78421> even then i found some junk text on screen
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  • [05:57:00] <Guest78421> can any one suggest me in this regard
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  • [06:03:05] <magyarm> Guest78421 what are you connecting to (beaglebone white/black, XM)? and what is the command you are using ?
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  • [07:32:32] <honestly> anyone know if the beagleboard xM has a limitation on the size of sd-cards it can take?
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  • [07:34:47] <hatguy> anyone know any good libraries for (fast) realtime plotting on the bbb?
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  • [07:35:12] <mark4> realtime plotting of what?
  • [07:35:22] <keesj> honestly I don't know of any limiation sdhc should be fully supported
  • [07:35:23] <hatguy> adc data interfaced over SPI
  • [07:35:24] <mark4> i think 32G is the limit but im nto sure
  • [07:35:40] <mark4> "not"
  • [07:36:16] <keesj> 32GB is the limit of SDHC cards after that they are called sdxc but I never used anyting like that
  • [07:36:22] <mark4> i would say get the SMALLEST sd you can and delete everything from it except /boot
  • [07:36:33] <mark4> make /dev/sda your /
  • [07:37:03] <mark4> is my xm underclocked by default?
  • [07:37:09] <mark4> or is it at its full 1ghz ?
  • [07:39:06] <hatguy> I tried python based matplotlib and pyqtgraph but they are turning out to be a bit slow
  • [07:41:08] <mark4> maybe you could just collect on the xm and plot the data somewhere else
  • [07:41:21] <mark4> with some skillz that could even be live plotting
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  • [07:42:46] <hatguy> ahh but that is not possible in this case.. the BBB is standalone
  • [07:42:52] <hatguy> btw I'm using the BBB not the xm
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  • [07:47:34] <dlg> mark4: d3js?
  • [07:48:28] <mark4> ?
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  • [07:53:46] <keesj> that's really the problem with embedded Linux , there are really to much choices to be made and way to many configurations
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  • [07:54:02] <ynezz> problem?
  • [07:54:12] <keesj> is hatguy running X or not?
  • [07:54:19] <ynezz> if you want opposite, use Windows CE
  • [07:55:08] <keesj> Android also made the big choices for you(I think this is good)
  • [07:55:38] <ynezz> yep, but uncertain future
  • [07:55:45] <keesj> it's all so much roll your own and get stuck where no one has gone before :P
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  • [07:56:20] <panto> there are grumblings about google developing a replacement kernel
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  • [07:56:42] <panto> don't know if it's true or not, but if it is, then you can stop relying on android for any direction of embedded linux
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  • [07:56:58] <keesj> or no one knows/cares.
  • [07:57:32] <ynezz> replace kernel, close it, sounds alright
  • [07:57:54] <keesj> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920028116.do?sortby=publicationDate (Getting Started with BeagleBone) does a good job at picking some way to do things on the BB
  • [07:58:16] <keesj> ynezz: what do you mean by replace kernel /close it?
  • [07:58:42] <ynezz> it's only GPL part in it, isn't it?
  • [07:59:01] <keesj> yes , and the Bluetooth stack and some dbus crap
  • [07:59:55] <keesj> the biggest part of the stack is apache 2.0(very good in my book)
  • [08:00:46] <panto> the bluetooth stack is no longer GPL
  • [08:00:54] <panto> bluez has been replaced
  • [08:00:56] <mark4> google would be more likely to replace java than the linux kernel
  • [08:01:02] <keesj> and honestly I think the $currently published sources are good enough to do anything.
  • [08:01:11] <mark4> hopefully not with go
  • [08:01:31] <ynezz> and kill the ecosystem?
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  • [08:01:44] <mark4> it needs to die
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  • [08:02:16] <keesj> I'v been thinking of a MINIX 3/Android system v.s. a MINIX 3/Posix based one
  • [08:03:09] <keesj> what needs to die?
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  • [08:12:46] <jimbo_> Pls advise what OS is supplied laoded in Beagle board when I 1st power up
  • [08:13:17] <jimbo_> can I run WINCE.. u/stand this OS NOT supplied
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  • [08:19:47] <_av500_> you can
  • [08:19:49] <_av500_> but no help from here
  • [08:19:55] <_av500_> talk to Microsoft
  • [08:19:58] <_av500_> or a partner
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  • [08:49:00] <ION> Hah, someone has actually ported wince to BBB?
  • [08:49:45] <ION> http://youtu.be/S2Ttujf6cWU comments: ???Can u run steam????
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  • [08:58:41] <Rotti> hi!
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  • [09:00:54] <KotH> ION: why are they so many people who want to run windows on the bbb?
  • [09:01:08] <KotH> moin Rotti
  • [09:01:14] <ION> s/ on the bbb//
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  • [09:02:38] <KotH> ION: can you write complete sentences please?
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  • [09:03:07] <ION> s/foo/bar/ means ???substitute foo with bar???
  • [09:05:33] <jackmitchell> that still doesn't make your prevous sentence make anymore sense
  • [09:05:59] <ION> ???why are they so many people who want to run windows on the bbb????
  • [09:06:04] <ION> substitute ??? on the bbb??? with ??????
  • [09:06:08] <ION> ???why are they so many people who want to run windows???? :-P
  • [09:07:55] <ION> s/// is rather common IRC shorthand in geek circles, inspired by Perl.
  • [09:08:13] <_av500_> u dont say
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  • [09:09:00] <fasd> is it possible to see the pcm data in oscilloscope at mcasp pins(program written using alsa)?
  • [09:09:23] <_av500_> if you have a scope
  • [09:09:31] <_av500_> and set it up correctzly yes
  • [09:10:47] <fasd> <av500> can you please help me setting up a codec?for you it may be easy to answer.I am just new to this
  • [09:11:06] <_av500_> no
  • [09:11:12] <_av500_> I would have to research it
  • [09:11:41] <fasd> atleast can you help me to clarify some doubts
  • [09:11:49] <dm8tbr> _av500_: you could always outsource the task to someone in india
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  • [09:16:46] <dm8tbr> fasd: don't privmsg people. thanks.
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  • [09:19:23] <fasd> I want to send some audio data to tlv320aic3106 using i2s.Can I do this using alsa?my aplay -l returns..
  • [09:19:39] <fasd> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 0: Black [TI BeagleBone Black], device 0: HDMI nxp-hdmi-hifi-0 [] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
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  • [09:20:16] <dm8tbr> start out by disabling the hdmi cape. then look at how the audio capes work for reference.
  • [09:21:09] <KotH> and google for it
  • [09:21:25] <KotH> iirc someone documented how to get i2s running on linux
  • [09:21:44] <KotH> dont remmember whether it was on bbw/bbb or something different
  • [09:22:04] <_av500_> also, we discussed that with fasd here before
  • [09:22:17] <_av500_> I dont see why we need these deja vu moments
  • [09:22:31] <KotH> we did?
  • [09:22:57] <KotH> hmmm.. well, if he cannot do it himself, he could always outsource it to india
  • [09:23:03] <_av500_> it has all happened before and it will all happen again
  • [09:23:36] * KotH nods
  • [09:23:57] <KotH> as the buddhists say, life is an endless cylce
  • [09:24:46] <fasd> yes its endless cycle
  • [09:25:07] <_av500_> then IRC must be life on fast forward
  • [09:25:51] <fasd> :-)
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  • [09:26:43] * mranostay trolls on
  • [09:27:05] <mranostay> someone say something stupid please :)
  • [09:27:25] <KotH> something stupid
  • [09:27:36] <_av500_> something stupid please :)
  • [09:27:48] <mranostay> bite me
  • [09:27:58] <mranostay> _av500_: that is
  • [09:28:00] <_av500_> you win
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  • [09:28:04] <dm8tbr> the omnomnom song is now playing in your head, mranostay
  • [09:28:14] <mranostay> i suspect koth has rabies
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  • [09:28:40] <KotH> mranostay: you really dont want me to bite you
  • [09:28:45] <KotH> mranostay: at least not in public
  • [09:28:52] <mranostay> kinky
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  • [09:55:43] <Biodragon> is there any limit on the size of the micro sd card?
  • [09:56:00] <Biodragon> and should I get a certain type / brand, that works better than others?
  • [09:56:19] <dm8tbr> depends on what you plan to do with it
  • [09:57:13] <_av500_> sandisk
  • [09:57:17] <_av500_> get a sandisk
  • [09:57:18] <Biodragon> mainly use it for storage
  • [09:57:37] <_av500_> get a sandisk
  • [09:57:40] <Biodragon> i may put ubuntu on it as well (have not decided since i just got it yesterday)
  • [09:57:50] <Biodragon> will it work with a 64GB one?
  • [09:58:11] <philenotfound> Biodragon: works fine here
  • [09:58:20] <_av500_> yes
  • [10:00:20] <Biodragon> thx
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  • [10:23:38] <vvu|Log> _av500_: some days ago you told me that there is a MTP utiliy for OSX built on libusb, any link to it ?
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  • [10:27:58] <_av500_> the google thing
  • [10:28:05] <_av500_> its a binary only
  • [10:28:34] <_av500_> but there should be other MTP apps for osX I thnik
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  • [11:21:21] <tiger79> hi there, I was wondering if anyone could help me out to get a cron job working on the BBB with Angstrom ?
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  • [11:26:03] <_av500_> crontab -e?
  • [11:26:57] <tiger79> done that :P
  • [11:27:27] <tiger79> added 1 * * * * python /home/root/my_script.py >> cronjob.log
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  • [11:27:57] <dm8tbr> cron is hard, let's go shopping!
  • [11:28:06] <tiger79> but to no avail :( script does not run (but runs when started in shell)
  • [11:28:31] <tiger79> chmod a+x has been done...
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  • [11:29:11] <tiger79> it's a simple heartbeat broadcast script which has to run every minute
  • [11:31:29] <dm8tbr> is cron running?
  • [11:32:46] <tiger79> crond yes
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  • [11:33:59] <tiger79> whilst doing ps -ax I can see /usr/bin/crond -n
  • [11:34:23] <tiger79> sorry should be usr/sbin/crond -n
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  • [12:06:47] <tiger79> any ideas ? :P
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  • [12:08:15] <jackmitchell> tiger79: have you got a #! in your python script
  • [12:08:23] <jackmitchell> maybe the system doesn't know what to do with it
  • [12:08:37] <jackmitchell> ah, sorry I misread your cron, you explicity call python
  • [12:09:08] <jackmitchell> maybe try something simpler, just a simple bash statement to confirm cron is running and working
  • [12:09:50] <tiger79> hhmm... that is a good idea... I'll make a simple bash script first see if that one runs every minute
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  • [12:15:16] <tiger79> hhmm ok now my entry looks like :
  • [12:15:31] <tiger79> 1 * * * * /home/root/test_bash.sh
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  • [12:15:50] <tiger79> and what it does is : #!/bin/bash STR="Hello World!" echo $STR
  • [12:16:12] <tiger79> should I reboot after saving the crontab -e ?
  • [12:16:33] <tiger79> cause it says : crontab:installing new crontab when I ext my editor
  • [12:16:43] <tiger79> but no output whatsoever
  • [12:16:57] <jackmitchell> you could restart crond but I don't know if it's needed
  • [12:17:11] <jackmitchell> and where does cron echo to? stdout? syslog?
  • [12:17:21] <thurgood> where do yo uexpect chron to output too
  • [12:17:35] <tiger79> no idea actually :P
  • [12:17:45] <tiger79> just scho the STR
  • [12:17:49] <tiger79> *echo
  • [12:17:52] <thurgood> maybe a log at best
  • [12:18:00] <jackmitchell> give it an absolute path to a file in which to echo into, that way you can check
  • [12:18:41] <thurgood> that would work
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  • [12:22:41] <Andy_Rz2> Hello Guys, I have made my Angstrom image i can boot from the SD card, Any procedure to install it to the eMMC? when i try to umount /dev/mmcblk1p2 it says invalid operation, it formats it using mke2fs but again i cannot untar the .gz into the eMMC.
  • [12:22:59] <tiger79> not even with the bash file
  • [12:23:13] <tiger79> if I run it seperately then no problem at all
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  • [12:24:01] <thurgood> tiger what are the permissions on your file?
  • [12:24:19] <thurgood> and who's the owner
  • [12:24:41] <tiger79> I already did chmod a+x
  • [12:25:07] <thurgood> ah, ok
  • [12:25:18] <tiger79> really stuck now :(
  • [12:25:23] <thurgood> and the file you're writing to?
  • [12:25:51] <tiger79> that file is created by the bash script
  • [12:26:24] <thurgood> directory permissions?
  • [12:26:50] <tiger79> all root
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  • [12:29:18] <Andy_Rz2> Guys? Any Help on the eMMC Installation?
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  • [12:31:03] <jackmitchell> Andy_Rz2: have you read the wiki on installing to eMMC?
  • [12:32:15] <jackmitchell> tiger79: try running a script as cron in the same way on your local machine, if that doesn't work either then you're doing something wrong ;)
  • [12:32:31] <jackmitchell> otherwise, cron on the bone is playing up
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  • [12:37:21] <Andy_Rz2> http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/BBB_software_update_process#The_mechanics_of_the_emmc.sh_script This one?
  • [12:39:16] <jackmitchell> Andy_Rz2: http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software
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  • [12:42:20] <tiger79> sorry jack I am running Windows on my local machine ;)
  • [12:42:42] <tiger79> I'll start up my VM, but thats Ubuntu.. and that doesnt work with crontab right ?
  • [12:42:45] <Andy_Rz2> nonono, i made my image, its a .tar not an img, that procedure is to install the Entire Image, i need to clean the eMMC (format it) and dump my .tar contents on it
  • [12:43:58] <jackmitchell> tiger79: it should do
  • [12:44:06] <jackmitchell> tiger79: I'm no Ubuntu expert though :)
  • [12:44:35] <jackmitchell> Andy_Rz2: ah, sorry Andy, I'm not sure then. I would examine the script that does the writing to the emmc and try to emulate it but with your customized rootfs
  • [12:44:56] <Andy_Rz2> :/ ok ima do more digging about,
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  • [12:46:21] <Andy_Rz2> i can see mmcblk1p2 (eMMC) but i cannot unmount it it says invalid argument, when i install from ubuntu to the SD card on my laptop it works well, but now after booting from the beaglebone's SD card umount dosn't do the job >.<
  • [12:50:06] <jackmitchell> Andy_Rz2: what's the exact error?
  • [12:50:31] <jackmitchell> and command you used
  • [12:52:18] <tiger79> hhmmm ok, on the ubuntu VM it doesn't work either...
  • [12:52:25] <tiger79> seems like the line
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  • [12:52:50] <tiger79> 1 * * * * /home/root/test_bash.sh
  • [12:53:01] <tiger79> is not ok in crontab
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  • [12:54:44] <jackmitchell> tiger79: and you are wanting your script to execute on the 1st minute of every hour, correct?
  • [12:55:10] <tiger79> nope...
  • [12:55:13] <tiger79> every minute ???
  • [12:55:22] <jackmitchell> ah every minute would be all stars
  • [12:55:42] <jackmitchell> a star means every in cron world
  • [12:55:51] <jackmitchell> so every minute, every hour, every day etc...
  • [12:56:01] <tiger79> aha !
  • [12:56:03] <jackmitchell> a number means *only* on that specific number
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  • [12:56:08] <tiger79> lets see if this changes stuff :P
  • [12:56:09] <jackmitchell> so 1 * * * * *
  • [12:56:16] <jackmitchell> is minute 1 of every hour, every day etc...
  • [12:57:00] <jackmitchell> tiger79: http://kvz.io/blog/2007/07/29/schedule-tasks-on-linux-using-crontab/
  • [12:57:16] <jackmitchell> that seems to be a generally good guide
  • [12:57:28] <Andy_Rz2> root@beaglebone:/dev# umount /dev/mmcblk1p2 umount: can't umount /dev/mmcblk1p2: Invalid argument root@beaglebone:/dev#
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  • [12:57:59] <Andy_Rz2> mmcblk1p2 it says is an invalid argument, so i am guessing it dosn't detect it as a drive
  • [12:58:20] <jackmitchell> Andy_Rz2: that's what it sounds like, is the emmc activated in the devicetree?
  • [12:58:26] <tiger79> jack u saved me ! :D
  • [12:58:37] <tiger79> the VM works now ! :D gonna check on the BBB :D
  • [12:58:41] <jackmitchell> tiger79: no problem, glad I could help.
  • [12:59:49] <Andy_Rz2> i can spot mmcblk1p in /dev/
  • [13:00:29] <jackmitchell> so list the devices in dev that start with mmc
  • [13:00:30] <tiger79> ok the bash script also works on the BBB now :D now Im gonna try my python script !!
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  • [13:01:41] <Andy_Rz2> mmcblk0 mmcblk0p1 mmcblk0p2 mmcblk1 mmcblk1boot0 mmcblk1boot1 mmcblk1p1 mmcblk1p2
  • [13:01:55] <Andy_Rz2> mmcblk0 is the SD card i know for sure
  • [13:02:22] <Andy_Rz2> and when the os is running from the SD card, mmcblk1 is the eMMC
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  • [13:06:12] <jackmitchell> I don't really understand the layout of the eMMC I'm afriad, you need someone more expeirenced with it than me
  • [13:06:33] <jackmitchell> Andy_Rz2: the boot0 and boot1 partitions are weird, especially in addition to the p1/p2
  • [13:06:59] <jackmitchell> the only thing I can suggest is to look at how it is currently done in the eMMC flash script and copy that
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  • [13:16:50] <jackmitchell> tiger79: if it works on the BBB, send a reply to the mailing list stating you got your problem fixed and how you fixed it. Save some people some time.
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  • [13:50:23] <jjc_> Hello
  • [13:50:57] <jjc_> is there anybody here who can help me with a BBB boot issue
  • [13:51:17] <KotH> state your problem
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  • [13:52:31] <jjc_> When I connect the 5v DC power supply to the BBB, the power light comes on but no others, there is also no video out over HDMI although it seems to be sending something to the monitor as it does not display no signal. I also cannot reprogram the BBB with a uSD card
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  • [13:54:07] <jjc_> It also won't connect via USB and any combination of pressing/holding the power/reset/boot buttons fixes the issue
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  • [13:55:16] <KotH> have you connected a serial cable?
  • [13:55:31] <jjc_> no I havent
  • [13:55:44] <KotH> then that's the first thing you want to do
  • [13:56:46] <jjc_> i'll give it a go and see what i can do
  • [13:56:47] <jjc_> thanks
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  • [14:15:59] <tiger79> jackmitch|home jack do you know if it's possbile to create my own image of my working BBB and make it emmc-flashable ?
  • [14:17:04] <jackmitch|home> tiger79: I'm sure it is, but I don't know how I'm afriad
  • [14:17:57] <tiger79> jackmitch|home: hehe ok, well I'll strand the web again :) I have a working setup now, and I have to get it working on 9 other BBB so an image would be a lot easier :P
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  • [15:04:22] <DagoRed> tiger79: You can always do fun things with tarballs.
  • [15:04:33] <DagoRed> tiger79: Look what they are doing for Arch Linux Arm on the BBB.
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  • [15:34:45] <honestly_> halp.
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  • [15:34:57] <honestly> I am using ARM DS-5 with a beagle board.
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  • [15:35:18] <honestly> I'm trying to get the gnometris example application to run with X forwarding to my dev machine.
  • [15:35:31] <honestly> dev machine is ubuntu 13.04, beagle board is ubuntu 12.10
  • [15:36:01] <honestly> gnometris doesn't even get to main(), it just exits with 1
  • [15:36:13] <honestly> i'm assuming there is some incompatible lib, but how do I find which it is?
  • [15:37:44] <jackmitch|home> everyone who is going to be at ELCE, I will see you all tomorrow/thursday!
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  • [15:48:15] <KotH> honestly: you should have an error message somewhere
  • [15:48:42] <KotH> honestly: and btw: always build your apps with the same build enwironment that build your system
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  • [15:49:02] <honestly> there is no error message
  • [15:49:11] <KotH> honestly: otherwise you will end up in a hell of hard to debug errors
  • [15:49:17] <confused> Wifi issue here, anybody willing to help??
  • [15:49:32] <KotH> confused: unlikely
  • [15:49:53] <confused> could i know why?
  • [15:49:54] <KotH> confused: the people who are usualy helping are on vacation, conferences, in china, still asleep
  • [15:50:11] <KotH> confused: and wifi is not really a beagle issue
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  • [15:50:29] <honestly> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6283672/ <- gdb
  • [15:50:37] <confused> atleast could you hear me out once??
  • [15:50:53] <honestly> more complete gdb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6283673/
  • [15:51:02] <thurgood> if you ask rather than asking to ask.. you might get some traction
  • [15:51:04] <confused> wifi only works when connected thru a USB cable, anyway to work around this?
  • [15:51:26] <honestly> confused: more power.
  • [15:51:26] <KotH> confused: ok, but you have to speak very loud, i'm two floors below ground level in a weird building in edinburgh
  • [15:51:28] <confused> When directly connected, it dosent seem to work
  • [15:51:37] <thurgood> that's not wifi then
  • [15:51:41] <KotH> confused: lol
  • [15:51:44] <confused> 5v 2A
  • [15:51:51] <KotH> confused: a wifi device uses >1A peak
  • [15:51:55] <thurgood> you're talking the ethernet port?
  • [15:52:04] <KotH> confused: if you are supplying it from a usb hub, you get 0.5A max
  • [15:52:20] <confused> the adapter outputs 5v at 2A
  • [15:52:26] <confused> as recommended
  • [15:52:26] <KotH> confused: ie, your power collapses as soon as your wifi stick is trying to send anything
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  • [15:54:00] <thurgood> KotH: I think confused is using a barrel adapter for power
  • [15:54:17] <confused> no no, when I connect the wifi dongle directly to the BBB, it dosen't work. But, if I use a USB extension cable to connect the dongle, it works!!
  • [15:54:27] <KotH> o_0
  • [15:54:34] <confused> I know
  • [15:54:35] <KotH> 0_o
  • [15:54:37] <confused> it sound weird
  • [15:54:49] <KotH> what means "does not work"?
  • [15:54:55] <confused> googled it, and other ppl havae faced the same issue
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  • [15:55:56] <KotH> confused: please explain what problem you see exactly
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  • [15:56:13] <confused> if i were to directly connect the dongle and try connecting thru putty, it dosen't work. But if i connect thru the cable and then run putty, it works
  • [15:56:37] <KotH> do you have any kernl messages?
  • [15:56:41] <confused> nope
  • [15:56:59] <KotH> correctly recognized by the kernel?
  • [15:57:01] <confused> the hdmi goes to the screen, so nothing coming up there
  • [15:57:15] <confused> boots to the dektop as usual
  • [15:57:21] <KotH> type dmesg and check again
  • [15:57:41] <confused> gimme minute
  • [15:57:43] <thurgood> are you using a sipe usb extension cable or a hub?
  • [15:57:47] <thurgood> simple
  • [15:58:08] <KotH> confused: kernel logging onto the console can switched off and you dont ge tall messages on hdmi anyways
  • [15:58:17] <thurgood> also are you doing any hotplugging?
  • [15:58:17] <confused> normal usb cable
  • [15:58:18] <KotH> confused: hence, always check the kernel log queue directly
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  • [16:03:56] <confused> ok, I am clueless what to do here. Thanks anyway ppl, I'll see what I can do. Maybe a little more googling will work out.
  • [16:04:23] <KotH> confused: if it works with a cable, it could be that the additional inductance of the cable protects it from power surges
  • [16:04:45] <KotH> confused: it sounds weird, and i cannot say anything for sure without actually seeing error messages or measuring electrically
  • [16:04:49] <KotH> confused: but that would be my guess
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  • [17:10:27] <mar__> hi, what is the best BeagleBoard-xM or beagleboard
  • [17:10:45] <jkridner> depends on what you want to do.
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  • [17:10:57] <jkridner> http://beagleboard.org/boards
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  • [17:12:12] <mar__> i want a small performant board for monitoring
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  • [17:17:42] <woglinde> monitoring what?
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  • [17:57:37] <arocs> Hi to all !!!
  • [17:57:48] <arocs> I am new in the beaglebone black ...
  • [17:58:25] <arocs> I am interested in programming gpio & analog input outputs , any programming lagunages recomendation ?
  • [17:58:39] <arocs> Python or java ? or c/c++ ?
  • [17:59:02] <arocs> Ubuntu or Armstrong distro ?
  • [17:59:05] <Defiant> whatever you like
  • [17:59:30] <arocs> I used to program in arduino ....
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  • [18:06:09] <woglinde> arocs so its c/c++
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  • [18:08:15] <red-lichtie> Hi. I've just ordered a bealgebone black and I see that it can boot from onboard emmc, microsd or usb. My question is this, can I still use the micro sd even when booting from emmc (e.g. for /home, /usr and /var) ?
  • [18:08:56] <red-lichtie> s/bealgebone/beaglebone/
  • [18:11:35] <woglinde> red-lichtie sure
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  • [18:13:18] <red-lichtie> Thanks. That is excellent, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can have a play.
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  • [20:36:03] <jkuhlm> hi there, did one of you add a project lately on beageboard.org/projects ?
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  • [20:47:19] <jkuhlm> obviously nobody - thanks amd good bye
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  • [20:59:37] <exi> dose anyone know whats the different in speed between Dual core ARM cortex-A7 processor and the A8 sitting inn the black BeagleBone Black
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  • [21:12:10] <DagoRed> Frack.... PWM is messing up again.
  • [21:12:12] <jpipe> do you know how get sound from my beagleboard xm?
  • [21:12:16] <DagoRed> On the BBB
  • [21:12:49] <thurgood> what's the problem jpipe?
  • [21:14:42] <jpipe> i can't get sound from my beagleboard by speaker or headphones
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  • [21:21:17] <thurgood> just checking, but you're plugged into the 'audio_out' jack, right?
  • [21:21:39] <thurgood> do you you have alsamixer installed?
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  • [21:30:49] <jpipe> yes, I plegged in the 'audio_out' jack
  • [21:31:01] <jpipe> but that don't work
  • [21:34:22] <thurgood> what about alsamixer?
  • [21:35:37] <jpipe> that don't work
  • [21:36:36] <thurgood> is it installed?
  • [21:37:17] <jpipe> that command show me a error: 'cannot open mixer: No such file or directory'
  • [21:38:33] <thurgood> have you got internet connectivity on the board?
  • [21:38:47] <jpipe> yes
  • [21:40:34] <thurgood> are you using angstrom?
  • [21:41:04] <jpipe> no, I using ubuntu 12.04
  • [21:42:47] <thurgood> can you run this: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
  • [21:43:13] <thurgood> that will install the alsa mixer if it's missing
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  • [21:43:58] <thurgood> not sure if audio is a know issue with the xM for your kernel or not...
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  • [21:45:49] <jpipe> I put the command and alsamixer still don't work
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  • [21:53:08] <thurgood> hmm... do yo uhave /sys/devices/platform/soc-audio ?
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  • [21:55:09] <thurgood> I'm used to using angstrom when it comes to arm, so I'm kinda shooting in the dark here
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  • [22:07:02] <jpipe> do you recommend me use amstrong?
  • [22:07:45] <thurgood> I generally recommend using whatever you're comfortable with
  • [22:08:16] <thurgood> but if the sound isn't working and you need it, you may want to get another SD and give angstrom a try
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  • [22:08:59] <jpipe> i really need it
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  • [22:11:15] <thurgood> does `alsamixer -c 0` turn up anything?
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  • [22:12:20] <thurgood> I wonder if it's a pulse audio issue rather than the soundcard itself
  • [22:12:21] <jpipe> the folder soc-audio don't exist
  • [22:14:23] <jpipe> what do you mean with pulse audio issue?
  • [22:15:11] <thurgood> ubuntu normally uses pulse audio to mix multiple sound sources
  • [22:15:27] <thurgood> pulse audio can be problematic at times though
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  • [22:15:44] <thurgood> did you try alsamixer -c 0
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  • [22:16:15] <jpipe> yeah, but don't work either
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  • [22:16:18] <thurgood> that should show the underlying hardware rather than pulse's interface
  • [22:17:01] <jpipe> 'invalid card index'
  • [22:18:15] <jpipe> that is the message when I put alsamixer -c 0
  • [22:18:29] <thurgood> ok what about lsmod?
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  • [22:19:26] <thurgood> something like: lsmod |grep soc
  • [22:19:27] <jpipe> what do you want to know?
  • [22:19:35] <thurgood> does that show anything?
  • [22:20:31] <jpipe> show a lot
  • [22:20:54] <thurgood> can you pastebin the results?
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  • [22:22:22] <jpipe> I'm working in a labtop, so is impossible
  • [22:22:56] <jpipe> but what do you know specifically?
  • [22:25:06] <thurgood> this may help seems it may be a common issue with xM and 12.04... www.embeddedrelated.com/showarticle/138.php
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  • [22:32:35] <jpipe> thank you, but the problem is alsamixer
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  • [23:08:19] <emeb> snausages!
  • [23:11:24] <fabio_> Hi all,I need to connect my Beaglebone Black to a DVI-D monitor. So I need a Micro HDMI to DVI-D cable. My question is: Do I need a male Micro HDMI or female Micro HDMI cable?
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  • [23:14:39] <s5fs> fabio_: i belive male
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  • [23:15:05] <jpipe> yes fabio you need it
  • [23:15:30] <s5fs> ds2: itsssss bacon!
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  • [23:31:23] <|PiP|_> anyone know of a board like the beagleboard black which has hdmi in + wifi?
  • [23:31:36] <_av500_> none
  • [23:31:39] <_av500_> hdmi in?
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  • [23:32:56] <|PiP|_> yes
  • [23:33:09] <|PiP|_> i want to build a portable dvr
  • [23:33:37] <_av500_> good luck
  • [23:33:57] <_av500_> what would you do with the full uncompressed HD data if you had hdmi in?
  • [23:34:07] <_av500_> .zip it?
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  • [23:36:22] <|PiP|_> convert it to a lower format
  • [23:36:36] <|PiP|_> how does a regular dvr do it?
  • [23:36:44] <|PiP|_> or a slingbox
  • [23:36:45] <_av500_> with beefy hardware
  • [23:36:52] <_av500_> dito
  • [23:37:40] <_av500_> but no, no boards with HDMI-in known
  • [23:37:48] <_av500_> at least not for small money
  • [23:38:09] <N2TOH> hapuage and no still not cheap
  • [23:39:29] <_av500_> also DVR is a passing fad that passed
  • [23:39:33] <_av500_> its all in ze cloud now
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  • [23:41:33] <N2TOH> in other words they moved the DVR into a server colo room
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  • [23:49:27] <ds2> don't some of the divinci's have that?
  • [23:49:46] <ds2> davinci's
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