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  • [01:19:56] <ds2> BBB seems to latch in sysboot only on power on not on reset
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  • [01:20:10] <ds2> wonder if the reset button is warm only :/
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  • [01:21:19] <nomel> is there a way to get the size of the eeprom in linux?
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  • [01:21:24] <nomel> ideally from the /sys/bus/i2c/drivers/at24/3-0057 interface
  • [01:24:40] <nomel> or, do i just assume it's 32kb and let stuff blow up if the spec ever changes?
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  • [01:46:29] <ds2> Russ: SDK 4 sort of works. I get into a look with wakelocks. will try sdk6 later
  • [01:47:05] <mranostay> dd if=//sys/bus/i2c/drivers/at24/3-0057/eeprom of=/tmp/test.img && ls -lhd /tmp/test.img
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  • [01:53:11] <nomel> does the 8/21 image seem sane?
  • [01:54:17] <mranostay> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/208
  • [01:55:41] <nomel> bah, who let mranostay out AGAIN?
  • [01:57:51] <mranostay> how dare you sir
  • [02:00:14] <nomel> you assume i'm a sir. i see myself more as a cuttlefish that can't change colors.
  • [02:00:20] <nomel> or texture.
  • [02:00:41] <nomel> more of a mushy thing with eyes, and a bone inside that people hunt me for and give to their pet birds for calcium.
  • [02:09:05] <mranostay> again sanity isn't our strong point
  • [02:16:01] <nomel> figured out the eeprom file size
  • [02:16:07] <nomel> seek to end, and then read position.
  • [02:16:16] <nomel> i'm the dumb.
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  • [02:26:27] <m_billybob> ah and the weekend be here.
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  • [03:19:21] <mranostay> m_billybob: drink some natty for me
  • [03:20:13] <tacon> bleh
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  • [03:41:39] <ztahenakos> on boot, what does "bad device mmc 0" mean?
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  • [03:49:50] <joel_> ztahenakos, if you post more details maybe you'll get a better answer
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  • [03:51:01] <ztahenakos> joel_: thats all I really have.. during boot, I can see that print from uboot.. then later on I get devtmpfs: error mounting -2 and a kernel panick
  • [03:52:36] <mrpackethead> doh doh dh
  • [03:52:41] <joel_> ztahenakos, what exactly are you trying to do?
  • [03:53:03] <ztahenakos> joel_: trying to port an OS I have thats not currently on the BBB to the BBB
  • [03:53:17] <joel_> udev mounts on /dev as devtmpfs
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  • [03:56:07] <joel_> ztahenakos, I am using you are talking about the already developed Linux Kernel, and "porting" some custom userspace ;)
  • [03:56:34] <joel_> ztahenakos, most likely you don't have the DEVTMPFS config option enabled in your kernel
  • [03:56:54] <ztahenakos> Im using an already existing kernel, OK I got past the devtmpfs issue by creating /dev, but I still get a kpanic
  • [03:57:04] <joel_> Make sure these are set in kernel config:
  • [03:57:04] <joel_> CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y
  • [03:57:04] <joel_> CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y
  • [03:57:27] <ztahenakos> Im using the kernel supplied from the debian wheezy image from armhf.com, so I know I have a working kernel
  • [03:57:39] <joel_> working has many definitions
  • [03:58:01] <ztahenakos> Well I know if I use the debian wheezy image, the system actually boots and is usable
  • [03:58:02] <joel_> depending on the filesystem, the kernel may or may not "work" at all after you get past init
  • [03:58:15] <ztahenakos> its ext4.. what debian wheezy uses
  • [03:58:50] <ztahenakos> so.. what I see during boot now is :/bin/sh: can't open fixrtc, then the kpanic
  • [03:58:53] <joel_> I meant, the userspace in general, the init daemon whatever it is, there are dependencies on the way a kernel is configured/built
  • [03:59:27] <ds2> stop letting process 1 die
  • [03:59:35] <ztahenakos> Im sorry :(
  • [03:59:40] <joel_> exactly
  • [03:59:47] <joel_> check your boot args, most like you're passing some garbage to init=
  • [04:00:02] <ztahenakos> the bootargs are what the optargs variable in uEnv.txt?
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  • [04:00:16] <joel_> that's a part of it
  • [04:00:24] <joel_> check your U-boot sources for the whole thing
  • [04:00:30] <ds2> it can be anywhere
  • [04:00:33] <ds2> depends on ur configuration
  • [04:00:43] <ztahenakos> I dont have u-boot sources, I am using an existing u-boot image from debian wheezy
  • [04:01:03] <joel_> are you're "porting" an OS? ;-) Get the bootloader sources and build it yourself
  • [04:01:11] <joel_> *and
  • [04:01:42] <ztahenakos> yeah.. I was sort of being naive, seeing if I could take the rootfs and slam it into the required boot components, it worked for me before
  • [04:03:09] <joel_> as ds2 said, get init to a point where it doesn't throw anything nasty
  • [04:03:23] <ztahenakos> Well id like to do that, I dont know why inits dying
  • [04:03:29] <joel_> and focus on passing the right bootargs, and configuring your kernel build correctly so that userspace is happy
  • [04:04:39] <joel_> fixrtc rings a bell as some bootarg as such , which points to the fact that you probably have messed that up
  • [04:05:03] <ztahenakos> Well yeah, but I dont know what it is and so far havent been able to get rid of it
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  • [04:06:21] <joel_> that goes back to what I said about bootloader sources, get those and figure it out from there. configure everything correctly
  • [04:06:25] <joel_> night
  • [04:06:39] <mranostay> joel_: don't leave us now!
  • [04:06:44] <joel_> mranostay, heh
  • [04:07:12] <mranostay> #beagle after dark
  • [04:07:53] <joel_> usually the kernel will spit out the bootargs after decompressing so you can look at it there
  • [04:08:21] <mranostay> cat /proc/cmdline from userspace
  • [04:08:30] <joel_> but he can't get to userspace, that's his problem
  • [04:08:55] <mranostay> can nodejs help here?
  • [04:09:14] * joel_ chokes
  • [04:09:49] <ztahenakos> hmm, its still gettin fixrtc, gotta figure out where thats comming from
  • [04:10:48] <joel_> iirc that's some bootarg again....
  • [04:11:04] <ztahenakos> yes it is
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  • [04:45:45] <mranostay> woot found the RLE bug!
  • [04:46:21] <mranostay> seems nobody uses the OLS or Sigrok if nobody noticed in a commit from 4 months ago
  • [04:47:27] <ka6sox> b00m
  • [04:48:11] <mranostay> and triggers were broke too
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  • [05:09:58] <mranostay> two birds one stone here.. yah!
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  • [05:13:17] <ds2> Russ: SDK6 doesn't do DS0 but standby works using the stock image
  • [05:13:32] <ds2> surprisingly the power draw in suspend vs DS0 isn't much different
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  • [05:21:05] <mranostay> gah pot lofting into my window
  • [05:23:11] <_av500_> not pot lobbing?
  • [05:26:54] <mranostay> this is suppose to be a smoke free building
  • [05:29:20] <_av500_> you americans and your regulations
  • [05:29:28] <tacon> lol
  • [05:32:08] <mranostay> _av500_: no usually isn't the case
  • [05:32:20] <mranostay> this building has that part of the lease
  • [05:33:38] <_av500_> I guess you also signed for no trash burning?
  • [05:35:30] <mranostay> _av500_: i live in a high rise it is probably implied :)
  • [05:35:42] * mranostay doesn't recall if candles are allowed
  • [05:36:20] <_av500_> plastic ones
  • [05:36:28] <_av500_> like on your christmas tree
  • [05:36:40] * mranostay isn't a christmas person
  • [05:38:02] <_av500_> roasting a pig over open fire is a nono too?
  • [05:38:56] <mranostay> well there is a common area with a grill does that count?
  • [05:39:09] <_av500_> you mean like outside?
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  • [05:56:39] <mranostay> _av500_: yeah it effing scarey out there
  • [05:56:52] <mranostay> dammit this bug is annoying me
  • [05:57:00] <mranostay> i should go be social and forget it
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  • [05:59:36] * _av500_ throws another garbage can on the fire and turns the pig around
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  • [06:01:23] <mranostay> _av500_: you live in rural Germany right?
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  • [06:23:29] <_av500_> yeah
  • [06:25:14] <mranostay> weird
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  • [06:35:51] <mrpackethead> your weird
  • [06:36:00] <mrpackethead> mranostay: which bits did you need for your FPGA
  • [06:36:07] <mrpackethead> i have quite a few spares
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  • [07:06:04] <_av500_> spare parts for FPGAs?
  • [07:13:00] <ka6sox> _av500_, of course...we always have spare gates laying around.
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  • [07:54:11] <_av500_> spare a gate, mate?
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  • [08:11:15] <dm8tbr> mhh a Mate drink could work now
  • [08:16:40] * mranostay pours vodka at dm8tbr
  • [08:24:10] * dm8tbr adds some piripiri sauce and drinks it
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  • [08:39:59] <ttnghiabk> hi
  • [08:40:08] <ttnghiabk> I'm newbie here
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  • [08:43:26] <_av500_> ttnghiabk: ask, dont ask to ask
  • [08:44:53] <cxphong> Hello , Can anyone give me the name of the hardware component use to encode/decode in gstreamer on beagle bone black? Thanks!
  • [08:46:29] <cxphong> gstreamer use for live video streaming
  • [08:47:55] <cxphong> I use BBB to streaming video capture from usb camera
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  • [08:53:28] <mranostay> trolls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • [08:58:16] <Defiant> cxphong: BBB doesn't have hw video accel
  • [08:58:42] * SpeedEvil ponders PRU accel.
  • [08:58:44] <SpeedEvil> :)
  • [08:59:02] <mranostay> PRU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • [09:00:08] <SpeedEvil> I suspect it's probably a silly idea.
  • [09:03:06] <mranostay> SpeedEvil: the PRU is my god! :P
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  • [09:07:16] <cxphong> PRU! ok thanks all!
  • [09:10:20] <mrpackethead> lol.
  • [09:10:39] <mrpackethead> can you install opencv on the PRU?
  • [09:12:16] <mranostay> with god there is no limits
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  • [10:02:22] <_av500_> http://www.oz9aec.net/index.php/beaglebone/480-rtlizer
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  • [10:09:39] <woglinde> gm av500
  • [10:10:55] <woglinde> uhm oh
  • [10:10:56] <woglinde> http://haxit.blogspot.com.es/2013/08/hacking-transcend-wifi-sd-cards.html
  • [10:15:07] <woglinde> thats an absoluting fail
  • [10:15:16] <woglinde> by transcend
  • [10:15:36] <woglinde> and maybe case for gpl-violations.org
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  • [10:20:19] <woglinde> lol checking forms on the client
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  • [10:30:25] <woglinde> ah okay source is available
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  • [10:55:39] <SpeedEvil> http://shop.8devices.com/carambola - wifi SD card computer based platform
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  • [11:33:22] <ds_> LTSP on BBB. any ideas ?
  • [11:41:34] <ds_> LTSP on BBB. any ideas ?
  • [11:42:32] <derRichard> ds_: ... what about asking a real question?
  • [11:43:29] <ds_> you mean ? :)
  • [11:43:37] <woglinde> any idea?
  • [11:43:42] <woglinde> many solutions
  • [11:44:08] <ds_> plz list out...
  • [11:44:45] <derRichard> ds_: what exactly is the problem you're trying to solve?
  • [11:45:16] <ds_> i wish to make a zero client using the BBB...
  • [11:45:42] <ds_> PCoIP
  • [11:45:53] <derRichard> then install whatever client you need on it :)
  • [11:46:44] <ds_> will it be fast enough ?
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  • [11:47:14] <derRichard> ds_: try it...
  • [11:47:37] <ds_> I want to use it on a 120x1280 res LCD
  • [11:48:52] <ds_> Taking a powerful server, i want to replace 5-10 destops with the BBB...
  • [11:49:54] <_av500_> sure
  • [11:50:10] <ds_> but im not ubnderstanding where to start
  • [11:50:19] <ds_> *understanding
  • [11:50:54] <woglinde> hm av500 dejavu
  • [11:50:59] <woglinde> he asked some days ago
  • [11:51:04] <ds_> yup...
  • [11:51:14] <derRichard> btw: currently there are not sgx-pvr drivers available
  • [11:51:20] <woglinde> so he will get the same answers
  • [11:51:21] <derRichard> so no fast graphics for you
  • [11:51:33] <ds_> ok...
  • [11:52:09] <woglinde> derRichard tomorrow he will ask the same questions
  • [11:52:23] <ds_> this was the last of my effort...
  • [11:52:44] <ds_> I wanted to re-think about this
  • [11:53:21] <derRichard> woglinde: okay. did not know that
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  • [12:20:01] <woglinde> derRichard hm there was some runmor nobody is working on it
  • [12:20:08] <woglinde> rumor even
  • [12:20:22] <derRichard> hm, very sad.
  • [12:21:18] <derRichard> currently you are even unable to watch a simple video :(
  • [12:35:42] <woglinde> buy a rpi for video
  • [12:41:41] <derRichard> i have already a pi
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  • [13:00:24] <anujdeshpande> does anybody know what happened to python-opencv package in angstrom ?
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  • [13:15:53] <anujdeshpande> ping pdp7
  • [13:16:54] <Tenkawa> pdp7: no response from host.
  • [13:16:57] * Tenkawa laughs
  • [13:17:03] <Tenkawa> :)
  • [13:17:19] <Tenkawa> sorry
  • [13:17:30] <Tenkawa> I'm a bit sarcastic
  • [13:19:05] <anujdeshpande> hehe
  • [13:19:26] <Tenkawa> anujdeshpande: I miss pdp11's though
  • [13:19:33] <Tenkawa> and tandem
  • [13:20:55] <anujdeshpande> i don't know what i missed really.. should've been born earlier :)
  • [13:21:23] <Tenkawa> heheh
  • [13:21:30] * Tenkawa is ancint
  • [13:21:32] <Tenkawa> er anciet
  • [13:21:34] <Tenkawa> fdahsmgh
  • [13:21:36] <Tenkawa> ancient
  • [13:21:44] <Tenkawa> wow my typing is great this morning...not
  • [13:22:07] * anujdeshpande wonders where python-opencv is ..
  • [13:22:45] <Tenkawa> which distro?
  • [13:22:56] <derRichard> angstrom
  • [13:23:12] <anujdeshpande> yepp
  • [13:23:14] <Tenkawa> no idea.. I only run debian/slackware based stuff on my bbb
  • [13:23:25] <anujdeshpande> its listed here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/next/ipk/eglibc/armv7a/python/Packages
  • [13:23:40] <anujdeshpande> but can't get it
  • [13:25:43] <Tenkawa> what error you get?
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  • [13:26:26] <anujdeshpande> Unknown package 'python-opencv'
  • [13:27:19] <Tenkawa> ahhh
  • [13:27:32] <Tenkawa> what utility does angstrom use to get packages?
  • [13:27:48] <Tenkawa> you might have to use a different search/packagename
  • [13:28:54] <Tenkawa> you've run opkg update right?
  • [13:30:05] <anujdeshpande> opkg
  • [13:30:05] <anujdeshpande> yupp
  • [13:30:10] <Tenkawa> intriguing
  • [13:30:42] <Tenkawa> ahhh
  • [13:30:47] <Tenkawa> try just opencv
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  • [13:49:42] <anujdeshpande> opencv comes installed by default
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  • [13:55:53] <Tenkawa> well darn
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  • [14:17:19] <woglinde> anujdeshpande koen had some trouble whie building it so he disabled it in his last builds
  • [14:17:53] <Tenkawa> woglinde: ahhh... good reason
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  • [14:21:08] <anujdeshpande> woglinde: i see . i was hoping to give a demo for that on a workshop tomorrow.
  • [14:21:22] <anujdeshpande> *at a workshop
  • [14:21:37] <woglinde> anujdeshpande hm you could try to compile it yourself
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  • [14:22:25] <anujdeshpande> could give it a shot.. but have some other demos to work on too..
  • [14:22:32] <woglinde> 2.2 is old anyway and if I remember right it was 2.4 where they switched to numpy for storing images
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  • [14:23:42] <anujdeshpande> woglinde: i think we have 2.4.2 on angstrom
  • [14:24:26] <woglinde> yes but without python
  • [14:25:12] <alphacentauri> Date.getFullYear() doesn't work in cloud9 ide--missing method? solution, please?
  • [14:25:21] <woglinde> what you found has python-opencv 2.2.0+svnr4812-r3.9
  • [14:25:31] <anujdeshpande> indeed.
  • [14:25:47] <anujdeshpande> so if i have to compile it, i'll have to do 2.2
  • [14:25:53] <anujdeshpande> that's a shame ..
  • [14:26:15] <woglinde> hm?
  • [14:26:16] <woglinde> why
  • [14:26:19] <anujdeshpande> i guess i'll call a c++ executable to get images and then run a python script
  • [14:26:27] <woglinde> try to compile latest 2.4.6.2
  • [14:26:32] <woglinde> ups 2.4.6.1
  • [14:27:00] <woglinde> alphacentauri few working with the javascrpt foo
  • [14:27:08] <woglinde> ask jkridner
  • [14:27:55] <anujdeshpande> woglinde: you know if this has been fixed in the image release yday ?
  • [14:28:01] <anujdeshpande> *released
  • [14:29:14] <woglinde> do not think so
  • [14:29:29] <anujdeshpande> hmm.. thanks
  • [14:29:36] <alphacentauri> woglinde, got BBB few days ago and already pulling my hair :p i'm trying to set eclipse cdt up...
  • [14:30:13] <anujdeshpande> alphacentauri: it was pretty straight forward for me.
  • [14:30:31] <anujdeshpande> i have eclipse+cdt+angtrom cross compilation on my machine
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  • [14:31:29] <alphacentauri> my pc is windows, not linux so i'm trying to set up
  • [14:31:44] <woglinde> hm okay latest recipe in meta-openemebdded has it enabled again
  • [14:31:58] <woglinde> I meant opencv-python
  • [14:32:14] <woglinde> so you could try to build your own image
  • [14:33:18] <anujdeshpande> alphacentauri: ahh ..
  • [14:33:43] <anujdeshpande> woglinde: thanks. will do
  • [14:35:06] <woglinde> alphacentauri I wonder why you need arm cross compiler for javascript
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  • [14:37:53] <alphacentauri> woglinde: cross compiler for c/c++, not javascript
  • [14:38:28] <woglinde> sure but what language Date.getFullYear() comes from?
  • [14:38:34] <woglinde> you did not tell us
  • [14:39:04] <alphacentauri> woglinde: date.getfullyear() -> javascript
  • [14:39:54] <woglinde> ah
  • [14:40:02] <woglinde> now you see your conflict
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  • [14:41:31] <alphacentauri> but Date.getFullYear() doesn't work in cloud9 and i wonder why...
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  • [14:42:37] <woglinde> hi emeb
  • [14:43:35] <alphacentauri> Date.getYear() doesn't work too, strange
  • [14:43:59] <derRichard> alphacentauri: var d = new Date(); d.getYear(); does not work?
  • [14:44:03] <derRichard> please define "does not work"
  • [14:44:08] <derRichard> do you get an error?
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  • [14:45:23] <alphacentauri> hmm...i have to make an instance of Date? how to get the system date?
  • [14:45:38] <alphacentauri> bbb's system date/time, i mean
  • [14:45:58] <derRichard> please read javascript docs
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  • [14:46:48] <derRichard> IIRC cloud9 is just a node.js thingy.
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  • [14:47:47] <derRichard> again, please read js docs
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  • [17:17:53] <woglinde> gm prpplague
  • [17:18:12] <prpplague> greetings
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  • [17:18:34] <NOUK> Hi guys anyone experiences with hooking up Beagle Bone BLACK INputting DMX?
  • [17:18:58] <NOUK> Aswell Xbee + Beagle Bone Black - I could only found normal Beagle Bone + Xbee
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  • [17:20:26] <woglinde> what is DMX?
  • [17:20:42] <maxinux> light control protocol
  • [17:20:44] <maxinux> dmx512
  • [17:21:20] <NOUK> Serial communication is mainly the thing
  • [17:21:32] <NOUK> Setup / configuration question
  • [17:22:23] <woglinde> ?
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  • [17:26:36] <SpeedEvil> dmX is a multi-drop serial (not rs232) bus for light controls.
  • [17:26:51] <SpeedEvil> so you can make lights flash at the right time in a performance
  • [17:27:32] <NOUK> yes
  • [17:27:34] <NOUK> correct
  • [17:27:38] <NOUK> anybody experience
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  • [17:31:35] <NOUK> How to make a serial port open so it can connect with any wireless device, thsi would already be enough
  • [17:31:39] <NOUK> The DMX part I would know
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  • [17:37:08] <woglinde> NOUK o.O first you must wire it
  • [17:39:04] <mranostay> morning
  • [17:39:16] <woglinde> moooning mranostay
  • [17:40:53] <NOUK> huhu
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  • [17:47:21] <mranostay> blech foggy day
  • [17:48:13] <ka6sox> and you live where?
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  • [17:53:12] <woglinde> gm ka6sox
  • [17:56:08] <mranostay> yes i know :)
  • [17:59:25] <ka6sox> morning woglinde
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  • [18:01:50] <_SY_> hello
  • [18:02:11] <_SY_> having fun with node, pretty funcky :)
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  • [18:03:27] <NOUK> This is what I found now
  • [18:03:28] <NOUK> http://hipstercircuits.com/enable-serialuarttty-on-beaglebone-black/
  • [18:03:50] <NOUK> But it sounds much more complicated than when we would try to archieve the same but on an notrmal beagle bone
  • [18:03:52] <rien_> I understand "never ask to ask" but I just wanted to see if anyone is running Armpit here that would have some tips for my getting started
  • [18:04:20] <woglinde> what is armpit?
  • [18:04:30] <_SY_> I've done this for a couple of UARTS on my two BBB's, enabling UART4 and UART5...I'll just get evernote up and then post how.
  • [18:04:38] <rien_> armpit scheme
  • [18:04:53] <rien_> woglinde: a scheme that runs right on ARM without an OS or anything
  • [18:05:24] <NOUK> Also - experience with connecting Xbee without Xbee adapters to Beagle Bone Black
  • [18:05:41] <_SY_> To enable UART4:
  • [18:05:41] <_SY_> echo BB-UART4 > /sys/devices/bone_capemgr*/slots
  • [18:05:51] <NOUK> Thank you _SY_!
  • [18:06:02] <_SY_> To enable at boot, add to uEnv.txt in /media/BEAGLEBONE/
  • [18:06:03] <_SY_> mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/BEAGLEBONE
  • [18:06:41] <woglinde> rien_ I dont know anybody here doing this
  • [18:06:46] <_SY_> vi uEnv.txt
  • [18:06:46] <_SY_> optargs=quiet drm.debug=7 capemgr.enable_partno=BB-UART4,BB-UART5
  • [18:07:09] <woglinde> _SY_ fist he has to connect his xbee to the right pins
  • [18:07:20] <rien_> woglinde: ok, thanks, that's what I wanted to know.
  • [18:07:20] <woglinde> first even
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  • [18:07:32] <_SY_> UART4 Pins:
  • [18:07:32] <_SY_> CTSN P8-35
  • [18:07:32] <_SY_> RTSN P8-33
  • [18:07:32] <_SY_> RXD P9-11
  • [18:07:32] <_SY_> TXD P9-13
  • [18:07:32] <_SY_> GND P8-1
  • [18:07:33] <_SY_> UART5 Pins:
  • [18:07:34] <_SY_> RXD P8-38
  • [18:07:34] <_SY_> TXD P8-37
  • [18:07:40] <woglinde> ieeehlks
  • [18:07:45] <woglinde> pastebin please
  • [18:07:59] <woglinde> btw. it is on the hipsterpage too
  • [18:08:26] <woglinde> _SY_ but so far he did not tell us if he already has done the connecting
  • [18:09:24] <_SY_> ok, np, I'll shut up :)
  • [18:09:37] <woglinde> _SY_ hm btw. cannt you connect the stuff to what ever pins youn want and than setup the dto file right?
  • [18:09:40] <NOUK> SY - can I email u
  • [18:09:47] <woglinde> lol
  • [18:10:30] <_SY_> No the pin functions are dedicated, if you don't have it already download the beaglebone PDF, all the PIN functions are detailed there.
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  • [18:10:46] <woglinde> hm yes saw it now
  • [18:11:01] <woglinde> so two extra serial consoles
  • [18:13:01] <_SY_> I have written a small C libary to communicate with the ports and provide JNI routines so I can call it from Java.
  • [18:18:10] <_SY_> email received and response sent
  • [18:18:42] <woglinde> _SY_ hm rxtx lib was to complicated?
  • [18:19:23] <woglinde> _SY_ are you using angstroem?
  • [18:19:31] <_SY_> I couldn't get it to work properly so after a few frustrating hours I decided to write my own, yes I'm using Angstrom
  • [18:19:39] <woglinde> good
  • [18:19:51] <woglinde> so you are using the java stuff from me
  • [18:20:17] <_SY_> what would that be ?
  • [18:20:41] <woglinde> or are using the oracle 8 pre arm kit?
  • [18:20:53] <_SY_> For setting up Java I found these links helpful, I'm using the openjdk
  • [18:21:01] <_SY_> Download Java from
  • [18:21:01] <_SY_> http://bradsmc.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/installing-openjdk-6-on-beaglebone-black.html
  • [18:21:01] <_SY_> Java remote debugging:
  • [18:21:01] <_SY_> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-eclipse-javadebug/
  • [18:21:13] <woglinde> good I am the maintainer of meta-java
  • [18:21:24] <_SY_> cool
  • [18:21:46] <_SY_> I've written a couple of apps using the openjdk for the BBB....both I'm quite proud of.
  • [18:22:37] <_SY_> The first is a floating IP address manager, which enables me to cluster two BBB, the floating IP address app allows a client to talk to either BBB using one IP address, if I power down the active BBB, the IP moves to the other.
  • [18:23:08] <_SY_> The other application I wrote is an industrial PLC modbus slave application, that allows any Modbus TCP master to read I/O from the BBB.
  • [18:23:13] <woglinde> hm looks like I have to RDEPENDS giflib abd libffi
  • [18:24:02] <_SY_> For remote debugging java I wrote a script containing:
  • [18:24:03] <_SY_> jdbg script:
  • [18:24:03] <_SY_> java -Xdebug -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=192.168.1.160:1044,suspend=y -jar mmsqlsvr.jar
  • [18:24:22] <woglinde> yes I know
  • [18:24:38] <_SY_> the IP address is my own BBB IP and the jar file at the end is my Modbus slave sql server application.
  • [18:25:02] <woglinde> are using 6 or 7`
  • [18:25:29] <_SY_> can't remember, hold on will power up BBB and check
  • [18:26:56] <woglinde> okay I will be back in some minutes
  • [18:28:32] <_SY_> java version "1.6.0_24"
  • [18:28:33] <_SY_> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.12pre) (6b24-1.11.1+1.11.2-devel+hg1+54ceda20a02c)
  • [18:28:33] <_SY_> OpenJDK Zero VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)
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  • [18:49:31] <woglinde> _SY_ hm this older and has some security flaws
  • [18:50:06] <_SY_> ok, my BBB aren't online so I'm not to worried
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  • [18:50:22] <woglinde> gm mrpackethead
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  • [18:51:20] <woglinde> but good to see my work is still usefull for some
  • [18:51:30] <woglinde> most switching to the oracle arm
  • [18:51:47] <_SY_> Works fine :)
  • [18:52:40] <_SY_> I'm not a big fan of Oracle...since Oracle has purchased various open source projects, such as mySQL they are actively trying to find out whose using it and trying to find some ways of charging for it.
  • [18:58:31] <mrpackethead> And oracle are cheats
  • [18:58:54] <mrpackethead> Team NZ will hopefully will whip them though on the race track
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  • [19:01:11] <norbi> hi guys, i followed this example for pwm http://forum.beaglefu.com/topic/59-quick-beaglebone-black-pwm-commands/
  • [19:01:26] <norbi> but i cant see anything like pwm on the pin 13 on P8
  • [19:01:32] <norbi> why is that?
  • [19:01:41] <norbi> it need reboot
  • [19:01:42] <norbi> ?
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  • [19:02:35] <_SY_> Do you have an oscilloscope?
  • [19:03:26] <mrpackethead> did you set the pin mux ccorrectly
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  • [19:06:55] <norbi> yes i have an osciloscope, a RIGOL ds1102e
  • [19:07:00] <norbi> now ive found the problem
  • [19:07:28] <norbi> my pwm_test_p8_12.# wasnt 15 but it was 14
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  • [19:16:41] <KJH_> Hi. I'd like to create an encrypted partition image on a beaglebone black, using the OS installation it came with. It has dmsetup, but no device mapper in the kernel. Or so it seems.
  • [19:17:27] <KJH_> That seems strange - to have dmsetup and no device mapping in the kernel. Or a kernel module that you can load.
  • [19:17:52] <KJH_> That is to say - dmsetup is relatively useless executable that way.
  • [19:18:45] <rien_> Hey folks. I know 0 about electronics. What should I read to be able to understand what I'm doing when I start playing with the beagleboard? I plan on running scheme on it. Is there some material that is usually recommended for beginners (in electronics, not programming)?
  • [19:19:50] <_SY_> Try the Dummies guide to electronics, its a pretty good book, goes through the basics
  • [19:20:00] <mrpackethead> oh, your professors where from the Lisp camp huhm
  • [19:20:11] <woglinde> mrpackethead who?
  • [19:20:34] <mrpackethead> woglinde rien_:
  • [19:20:49] <rien_> _SY_: ok! yes those dummy books are either very very good or very poor. will check it out
  • [19:21:06] <_SY_> Got mine on Amazon
  • [19:21:13] <rien_> mrpackethead: yes indeed, I want to get to the point of running a webserver on scheme without an OS
  • [19:21:39] <mrpackethead> how are yu going to implement scheme without an OS
  • [19:21:41] <mrpackethead> ?
  • [19:21:50] <mrpackethead> that is a serious hunk of effort
  • [19:21:53] <rien_> _SY_: by Lowe or McComb?
  • [19:22:22] <_SY_> Gordown McComb
  • [19:22:26] <_SY_> *Gordon
  • [19:22:37] <rien_> mrpackethead: I won't, it's already done, it's called Armpit, and it runs on the Beagleboard, I just have no clue how to actually get started (things like, you know, transferring the payload onto the board and starting it up and so on)
  • [19:22:54] <rien_> _SY_: thanks again
  • [19:23:05] <_SY_> np :)
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  • [19:25:00] <rien_> mrpackethead: I want to understand e.g. why is the LED accessed the way it is... then understand ports, I think. I barely know the terminology but I have a vague idea of the knowledge I lack
  • [19:25:12] <mrpackethead> rien_: have you got a link to the "bare metal" installation of scheme
  • [19:25:19] <rien_> mrpackethead: yes give me a sec
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  • [19:26:05] <rien_> mrpackethead: here you are (incidentally, that's what I'd like to understand - the low level operations it's doing (I already know scheme :) ) -> http://armpit.sourceforge.net/v0171/armpit_0171_TI_Beagle_examples.html
  • [19:27:14] <rien_> it's interesting that it isn't more well known given that running scheme on bare metal is many a lisper's wet dream (myself included)
  • [19:27:20] <mrpackethead> rien_: armpit has an OS
  • [19:28:08] <mrpackethead> minimal
  • [19:28:15] <mrpackethead> but still has a kernel
  • [19:28:26] <rien_> mrpackethead: you mean the runtime? that's not really an OS, it's an expected part of any lisp.
  • [19:28:40] <rien_> and it's turtles all the way down, which is what matters
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  • [19:29:42] <mrpackethead> well, good luck to you
  • [19:29:56] <mranostay> hmmm finding a pointer alias.. fun fun
  • [19:32:25] <rien_> mrpackethead: do you use the beagleboard for software or hardware endeavors?
  • [19:32:39] <rien_> mrpackethead: I'm curious because you seemed interested in checking out the scheme link :)
  • [19:32:46] <mrpackethead> dont' use the beagleboard
  • [19:32:49] <mrpackethead> use beaglebones
  • [19:33:22] <mrpackethead> but you have to use them for both heardare and software
  • [19:35:42] <rien_> mrpackethead: I don't plan on running anything atop Linux. or do you mean use the beaglebones and chuck linux?
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  • [19:36:09] <mrpackethead> i use beagleboneblack and debian
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  • [19:37:30] <rien_> mrpackethead: hmm, maybe if I can install scheme atop that linux then that might be enough to kickstart this journey; you're right.
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  • [19:38:21] <rien_> obviously it comes with gcc and other dev tools?
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  • [19:38:48] <rien_> I love debian, that's what I use for my servers, so... interesting :)
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  • [19:41:57] <rien_> there's no beagleboard that comes with wifi already working and configured on its linux?
  • [19:42:05] <rien_> I understand there are dongles etc
  • [19:45:20] <mranostay> koen: ok this C stuff is too hard i'm going to do nodejs here on out :P
  • [19:45:22] <woglinde> o.O
  • [19:45:45] <rien_> hahah
  • [19:45:46] <Spirilis> lawl
  • [19:46:14] <rien_> re the beaglebone black, says it's 1 GHz, how much is that in x86 terms?
  • [19:46:32] <mranostay> woglinde: i see the err of my ways :P
  • [19:46:51] <norbi> is a 620ohm 0.2W resistor consuming too much power on the BBB output pin?
  • [19:46:56] <woglinde> mranostay I do not know what you are working on
  • [19:47:20] <norbi> i have a 0.2W resistor on the pwm pin and is that a problem ?
  • [19:47:54] <rien_> it also doesn't say how many mips
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  • [19:50:01] <SpeedEvil> 5 volts / 620 ohms = about 8mA
  • [19:50:10] <SpeedEvil> 8ma*5V = 40mw - .04W
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  • [19:50:56] <norbi> SpeedEvil: 3.3V on the beagleboard
  • [19:51:10] <SpeedEvil> err, yes
  • [19:51:13] <SpeedEvil> so 20mw ish
  • [19:52:05] <norbi> SpeedEvil: so this resistor is too big?
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  • [19:52:16] <SpeedEvil> what are you trying to do with it
  • [19:52:37] <norbi> protecting the board from too high drain
  • [19:52:49] <norbi> but the resistor itself produces a drain
  • [19:53:03] <_av500_> ?
  • [19:53:10] <_av500_> put it in series
  • [19:53:12] <norbi> SpeedEvil: or im not calculating it right
  • [19:53:29] <SpeedEvil> 'too high a drain' ?
  • [19:53:44] <norbi> 250mW is the max drain on it? and the resistor doesnt have too much by itself?
  • [19:54:12] <SpeedEvil> you are not making significant amounts of sense.
  • [19:54:19] <SpeedEvil> What do you hope the resistor will do.
  • [19:54:29] <norbi> SpeedEvil: i mean BBB can give max 6mA on a GPIO and a led consumes 20mA and thats already high, im trying to protect the pin and limit the current to 6mA
  • [19:54:49] <_av500_> so calculate what you need
  • [19:55:00] <_av500_> 3.3v - V_led / 6mA
  • [19:55:09] <_av500_> +( )
  • [19:55:25] <_av500_> and I think it was 4mA, no?
  • [19:56:56] <norbi> 6
  • [19:57:57] <_av500_> ok
  • [19:59:29] <norbi> so the mcu pin will be not dmged by the resistors load, right?
  • [20:00:02] <_av500_> depends
  • [20:00:08] <_av500_> on how you load it
  • [20:00:27] <_av500_> 3.3V/6mA = 550 Ohm
  • [20:00:29] <_av500_> no?
  • [20:00:36] <_SY_> nite all,
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  • [20:00:41] <_av500_> 620 should be fine
  • [20:00:44] <_av500_> in all cases
  • [20:01:10] <_av500_> still: (3.3V - V_led) / 6mA to be exact
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  • [20:02:24] <norbi> _av500_: i was more affraid from the disipated current because i want to protect the board as much as possible
  • [20:07:25] <_av500_> ?
  • [20:07:35] <_av500_> what current?
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  • [20:48:49] <mrpackethead> eww, the Kiwis just thumped the itlains
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  • [22:56:41] <JViz> does anyone happen to have the pcblib from the Altium design files for the bbone black?
  • [23:04:32] <mranostay> JViz: eh?
  • [23:04:46] <mranostay> sure you have the right version?
  • [23:05:15] <JViz> no, it's the one off the circuitco wiki
  • [23:06:02] <JViz> it's the best version i've been able to find so far though
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  • [23:07:53] <mranostay> i mean of Altium
  • [23:07:59] <JViz> oh
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  • [23:08:27] <Thefatpinkpig> hello
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  • [23:09:18] <Thefatpinkpig> will the beaglebone black work with an HDMI to VGA?
  • [23:10:26] <JViz> mranostay, version 13.2.5
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  • [23:11:19] <JViz> lol
  • [23:11:21] <JViz> he left
  • [23:11:33] <JViz> i don't think the beagle has a ramdac, so no
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  • [23:22:00] <JViz> mranostay, are you still there?
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  • [23:37:42] <mranostay> JViz: yeah kinda
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  • [23:38:24] <JViz> :)
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