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  • [00:05:12] <mrjazzcat> mranostay: yes. Black.
  • [00:05:48] <mrjazzcat> mranostay: I put the TI SDK on Ubuntu 12.04 and updated the BBB to the 6/20 Angstrom. That's all good.
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  • [00:06:48] <mrjazzcat> mranostay: I also hacked the TI SDK scripts to allow an install on 13.04, so I'm using that now. Both systems had no /dev/ttyUSB, but rather that ttyACM0
  • [00:07:10] <mranostay> mrjazzcat: using a FTDI chip?
  • [00:07:33] <mrjazzcat> mranostay: I doubt it. I just have the USB cable that came with the BBB
  • [00:07:52] <mrjazzcat> I just ordered an FTDI cable, so I could see if that one will do better
  • [00:07:58] <mranostay> oh serial gadget is enabled?
  • [00:08:11] <mranostay> yeah that is going to go up and down in a power cycle
  • [00:08:24] <mrjazzcat> mranostay: It must be on by default. Is there a better way?
  • [00:08:42] * mrjazzcat misses the old-school cu /dev/ttyS0 :)
  • [00:09:04] <mrjazzcat> mranostay: how do you connect to serial console?
  • [00:09:11] <mranostay> get a FTDI cable for the little header
  • [00:09:27] <mrjazzcat> mranostay: awesome. Thanks! I'll be happier in a few days then
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  • [00:13:32] <ds2> if you really miss /dev/ttyS0...
  • [00:13:44] <ds2> build a 16550 cape and wire it up to the GPMC
  • [00:14:59] <mranostay> be sure to do it in DIP form to offend Russ
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  • [00:45:06] <mranostay> emeb_mac: did you bring any FPGAs for the class?
  • [00:45:28] <emeb_mac> class? no one told me there was a class.
  • [00:45:51] <emeb_mac> this is starting to seem like one of those dreams I have about not being prepared for a test...
  • [00:47:36] <mranostay> emeb_mac: i'll give you a F+
  • [00:47:48] <emeb_mac> you big meanie
  • [00:48:41] <mranostay> that is Tartarus
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  • [01:01:14] * russell-- just flashed the angstrom 6/20 image last night, it's acting weird, stalling on Waiting for root device /dev/mmcblk0p2...
  • [01:03:38] <thurgood> do you have an sd card in there as well?
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  • [01:10:50] <russell--> thurgood: no
  • [01:11:07] <russell--> after 60 seconds, it finishes booting
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  • [01:11:52] <russell--> but, seems like a regression
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  • [01:45:40] <pru_evtout_2> lol, opkg is so friggin borken.
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  • [01:50:39] <russell--> pru_evtout_2: how so?
  • [01:53:01] <Chrome> I have a Beaglebone A6 and I can't get it to boot. I tried a fresh Angstrom image all 4 User LEDs light up for a few seconds and then User LED 0 blinks. When I screen the terminal nothing shows up although my Desktop PC is detecting it. Is my Beaglebone busted?
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  • [01:57:59] <pru_evtout_2> russell--: i'm living in outdated land, so maybe it's been fixed. :)
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  • [02:00:12] <Guest23532> hello
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  • [02:00:24] <pru_evtout_2> but i get a feeling that automated testing in opkg land is...not. :-|
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  • [02:01:05] <pru_evtout_2> Guest23532: wuzup?
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  • [02:01:49] * pru_evtout_2 ignores the "No packages removed" error, knowing that the packages are very very gone.
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  • [02:02:51] <mranostay> geez does the LF want to make CFP as painful as possible?
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  • [02:04:45] <pru_evtout_2> so, i'm using my beaglebone to connect to a cape, where the cape is connected to a socket that needs different gpio depending on what's in the socket.
  • [02:05:10] <pru_evtout_2> and all the possible configurations aren't known.
  • [02:05:15] <pru_evtout_2> ...how do i make device tree stuff work for me?
  • [02:05:56] <pru_evtout_2> could i make an overlay, on the fly, and load it?
  • [02:06:38] <pru_evtout_2> err, sorry, not needs different gpio, needs different pin mux settings.
  • [02:06:57] <pru_evtout_2> like pull up/down/highz
  • [02:08:37] <pru_evtout_2> did that 3.8 omap_mux patch ever make it into mainline?
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  • [02:11:04] <pru_evtout_2> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1469197 is that patch i'm thinking of
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  • [03:05:08] <thurgood> ragggy?
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  • [03:32:49] <prpplague> Russ: can we sync up next week about the Tick ?
  • [03:34:26] <prpplague> ds2: can i get prozac instead?
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  • [03:36:11] <ds2> prpplague: only if you move to CA
  • [03:36:21] <prpplague> ds2: uh..... NO
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  • [03:40:20] <Boomer_> Hello
  • [03:40:30] <Boomer_> anyone active?
  • [03:42:23] <prpplague> Boomer_: i'm passive
  • [03:43:02] <Boomer_> prpplague: any experience with opkg? I keep getting this error: * pkg_run_script: package "bonescript" postinst script returned status 1. * opkg_configure: bonescript.postinst returned 1.
  • [03:43:40] <prpplague> Boomer_: hehe that sounds like an issue with the BS package
  • [03:45:47] <Boomer_> yea, i am trying to reinstall it (bonescript (1.0-r21.4)) maybe that will fix it?
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  • [03:46:54] <Boomer_> Still giving me errors: "Configuring bonescript. Job for bonescript.socket failed. See 'systemctl status bonescript.socket' and 'journalctl -xn' for details. Collected errors: * pkg_run_script: package "bonescript" postrm script returned status 1. * pkg_run_script: package "bonescript" postinst script returned status 1. * opkg_configure: bonescript.postinst returned 1."
  • [03:57:39] <mranostay> prpplague: can i make the Ringworm cape?
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  • [04:49:17] <av500> gah, my fingers are frozen
  • [04:50:18] <ds2> stop using peltier coolers on the x86 boards!
  • [04:51:05] <av500> or stop biking to work
  • [04:51:07] <av500> in summer
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  • [04:51:31] <av500> in winter I would have packed gloves
  • [04:51:35] <ds2> u got transfered to sweden?
  • [04:51:40] <av500> not yet
  • [04:52:41] <ds2> Finland?
  • [04:52:46] <ds2> Norway?
  • [04:52:50] <ds2> Siberia?
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  • [04:59:16] <mranostay> hey!
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  • [05:14:02] <mranostay> hi mrpacket_
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  • [05:14:33] <perry_> how many RJ-45 port in begle board ?
  • [05:14:51] <mranostay> er
  • [05:14:53] <mranostay> one
  • [05:15:08] <av500> mranostay: count carefully
  • [05:15:57] <perry_> can we extend upto 5 with some external accesory
  • [05:15:57] <mrpacket_> mranostay:
  • [05:15:59] <mrpacket_> im here.
  • [05:17:51] <perry_> RJ-45 support ASE-100TX or BASE1000-T ?
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  • [05:20:03] <ds2> \
  • [05:21:21] <mrpacket_> mranostay: what did you want
  • [05:21:43] <mranostay> mrpacket_: just you :P
  • [05:22:09] <mranostay> perry_: no gigabit for sure :)
  • [05:22:36] <mrpacket_> sorry, im spoken for
  • [05:22:43] <mrpacket_> but its nice to be wanted
  • [05:24:00] <mranostay> mrpacket_: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/153
  • [05:24:29] <mrpacket_> what?
  • [05:24:50] <mrpacket_> 26-26-54
  • [05:24:50] <mrpacket_> mmm
  • [05:24:51] <mrpacket_> werid.
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  • [05:32:36] <ka6sox> mranostay, fuzzy enough for ya?
  • [05:33:05] <mranostay> ka6sox: i demand more
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  • [05:37:53] <ka6sox> mranostay, you can't handle it....
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  • [05:39:26] <ka6sox> mranostay, I think I'll bring him home as a "Pet"
  • [05:39:54] <ka6sox> I'm sure the wife would LOVE that
  • [05:40:09] * mranostay hates spiders
  • [05:40:27] <mranostay> ka6sox: you want a divorce?
  • [05:40:34] <ka6sox> mranostay, whats your mailing address?
  • [05:40:51] <av500> bridge, portland
  • [05:40:59] <dm8tbr> ka6sox: intel portland
  • [05:41:20] <Windex007> I'm having trouble flashing my BBBK. I've tried with 3 different images (the flashing kind), and one of which I know is good because I'd previously flashed with it. The "heartbeat" stops after anywhere between 2seconds and 5 minutes. Sometimes the heartbeat never stops, but none of the other LEDs light at all, and after 90 minutes I give up and try again. I've tried with USB on a laptop, desktop, and a 1A source (via USB). What w
  • [05:41:59] <dm8tbr> Windex007: how do you write the image to the sd card?
  • [05:42:25] <mranostay> ka6sox: what for a bombo or spider? :)
  • [05:42:44] <Windex007> dm8tbr win32 disk imager. I've tried 2 different SD cards.
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  • [05:46:22] <Windex007> How common is it to brick a BBBK? Is it too soon for me to start wondering that?
  • [05:48:33] <Russ> you'd actually have to damage the hardware
  • [05:48:37] <av500> not at all
  • [05:49:16] <Russ> prpplague, sure
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  • [05:49:38] <mranostay> gah first vpn fail
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  • [05:50:22] <ka6sox> mranostay, a surprise.
  • [05:50:35] <ka6sox> The Cat will be amused
  • [05:50:36] <mrpacket_> fuses.
  • [05:50:42] <Windex007> ok, well that is good news. I didn't pay too much attention the last time I successfully flashed the eMMC, I'm assuming that the SD card activity LED and the eMMC access LEDs should be at least blinking periodically. If the only LED that's going is the heartbeat over the span of 10 minutes, is it safe to assume that the eMMC isn't being flashed?
  • [05:50:45] <mranostay> youtube fail
  • [05:51:01] <mranostay> ka6sox: don't bring the cat into this please
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  • [06:03:25] <ky> hello, anybody here?
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  • [06:04:07] <m_billybob> yeah im here
  • [06:04:11] <m_billybob> dahm . . .too late
  • [06:04:58] <m_billybob> let me guess, whats a question that hasnt bee nasked yet hmmm . ..
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  • [06:05:46] <m_billybob> "what type of video card can I use with the BBB ? can I use my AGP card, or do i have to use a PCI card?"
  • [06:06:47] <mrpacket_> https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1017572_10151694348387661_1871977789_n.jpg
  • [06:06:48] <prpplague> HA
  • [06:06:55] <mrpacket_> can i put these fuses on a BBB
  • [06:06:55] <prpplague> m_billybob: good one
  • [06:07:05] <mrpacket_> the board is black
  • [06:07:10] <mrpacket_> so will it fit?
  • [06:07:30] <mrpacket_> i went out and bought a new shiney macbook this afternoon
  • [06:07:40] * mrpacket_ waits for the mac-haters to troll
  • [06:09:55] * emeb_mac is not a hater
  • [06:10:06] <prpplague> hehe
  • [06:10:41] <emeb_mac> but I do troll from time to time
  • [06:11:16] <m_billybob> use what you want mrpacket_
  • [06:11:20] <emocakes> macs suck
  • [06:11:28] <emocakes> hope you enjoy being locked into a platform mrpacket_
  • [06:11:29] <emeb_mac> yay! we have a winner
  • [06:11:38] <m_billybob> id never buy one but thats me.
  • [06:11:43] <Russ> heh, linux runs on macs just fine afaik
  • [06:11:48] <emocakes> try running microsoft office 2013 on that mrpacket_
  • [06:11:55] <mastiff> does it have more than one mouse button?
  • [06:12:00] <Russ> if people are willing to pay a premium for the hardware, more power to them
  • [06:12:01] <m_billybob> Linux runs fine on a beagelbone black . . .
  • [06:12:06] <m_billybob> linux runs on anything.
  • [06:12:15] <Russ> mastiff, if its a standard touch pad, you can use multitouch
  • [06:12:17] <m_billybob> except perhaps a garden slug
  • [06:12:21] <emocakes> macs are horrinle and bloated
  • [06:12:34] <emocakes> have you got an iPhone and iPad as well mrpacket_?
  • [06:12:34] <Russ> man, those bloated macbook airs
  • [06:12:40] <m_billybob> lol
  • [06:12:48] <emeb_mac> they're huuuuuuge
  • [06:12:53] <m_billybob> apple does sell good hardware.
  • [06:12:55] <emeb_mac> and so heavy
  • [06:12:59] <Russ> emocakes, how about just assume we are all iFanboys here, it'll make things more fun
  • [06:13:17] <emeb_mac> Fruitco 4-ever
  • [06:13:32] <Russ> when will they bring back the rainbow, that's what I want to know
  • [06:13:35] <emocakes> i have a microsoft surface
  • [06:13:46] <emocakes> and i drive a hybrid car
  • [06:13:49] <Russ> emocakes, you are learning the way of the troll I see
  • [06:13:58] <emocakes> <3 Russ
  • [06:14:02] <emocakes> i was born with it
  • [06:14:05] <emeb_mac> to troll is to be, to be is to troll
  • [06:14:08] <emocakes> but honestly, I like macs
  • [06:14:21] <emocakes> for the operating system anyway
  • [06:14:28] <emocakes> beautiful rendering engine, and solid unix core
  • [06:14:31] <emocakes> thats about all
  • [06:14:55] <emeb_mac> expensive hardware, constant feature churn
  • [06:15:00] <Russ> who could not look at these pcbs and not be left in a state of awe http://bunniefoo.com/ntw/ntw_june_2013_top.jpg
  • [06:15:28] <Russ> (iphone 5)
  • [06:15:43] <emeb_mac> scary!
  • [06:18:38] * m_billybob is stil lookign for a way to install his ATI 7950 onto his BBB
  • [06:19:02] <m_billybob> err yeah "AMD"
  • [06:19:06] <Russ> I imagine if you really wanted to, you could hack up a 1 lane pci express connection
  • [06:19:17] <m_billybob> GPMC maybe ?
  • [06:19:17] <Russ> you'd need a phy though
  • [06:20:58] <m_billybob> ok so once i get that done, then ill be porting all the drivers over to WinRT embedded
  • [06:21:33] <m_billybob> So i can play crysis :)
  • [06:21:51] <Russ> a video of m_billybob coding winrt drivers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsbagZvkrbo
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  • [06:23:43] <m_billybob> hehehe
  • [06:23:57] <m_billybob> i especialy like the guy who back flipps and landed on his face
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  • [06:25:17] <av500> that was the node-js guy
  • [06:25:32] <Russ> he did look like a bad ass rock star
  • [06:25:55] <m_billybob> lol
  • [06:27:47] <russell--> pru_evtout_2: isn't that the whole point of device tree overlays? assume you've read this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17P54kZkZO_-JtTjrFuVz-Cp_RMMg7GB_8W9JK9sLKfA/edit?hl=en&forcehl=1#heading=h.j4ega7pcz5c
  • [06:28:01] <mrpacket_> I also have a CANON camera.
  • [06:28:07] <mrpacket_> weres the nikon lovers
  • [06:28:14] <emocakes> i have a canon 5dm3
  • [06:28:26] <m_billybob> <--- Nikon D40
  • [06:28:31] <emocakes> with probably 10k -
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  • [06:28:39] <m_billybob> Again, use whatever you like ;)
  • [06:28:39] <emocakes> of canon L series glass
  • [06:28:41] <ka6sox> Canon XSi
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  • [06:29:14] <mrpacket_> m_billybob: as long as its not a raspberry PI
  • [06:29:16] <m_billybob> only $500 worth of glass here, thats all i need
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  • [06:30:00] <m_billybob> favorite lens is a very nice F1.8 portrait lens retails for $120
  • [06:30:23] <adh88ca> is there anyway to read data being input from a usb hid device such as a scanner or keyboard?
  • [06:30:35] <emocakes> m_billybob 85mm?
  • [06:30:37] <mrpacket_> adh88ca: you plug it into a mac
  • [06:30:53] <m_billybob> emocakes 50MM or effectively 75mm
  • [06:31:03] <emocakes> fav lens is a 24mm USM L II f/1.4 at the moment
  • [06:31:27] <mrpacket_> i saw a f2.0 800mm L series last week in KL
  • [06:31:31] <emocakes> lol
  • [06:31:39] <av500> f2.0?
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  • [06:31:40] <emocakes> want to pay > $5k?
  • [06:31:41] <emocakes> lol
  • [06:31:44] <av500> that cheap shit?
  • [06:31:53] <emocakes> jesus, f2.0 800 would be like 20k?
  • [06:32:01] <mrpacket_> it was about 60,000 i think
  • [06:32:05] <emocakes> :|
  • [06:32:10] <adh88ca> mrpacket_: i'm trying to log items scanned by a barcode scanner. the device works like a normal keyboard, but i would like to create a background service that logs the input
  • [06:32:21] <Russ> point&shoot4life
  • [06:32:21] <m_billybob> emocakes -> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?Q=&A=endecaSearch&InitialSearch=yes&N=0&O=&Ntt=Nikkor+50mm.+F1.8+Lens
  • [06:32:27] <m_billybob> thats it the one on the top
  • [06:32:38] <emocakes> not bad, shame its nikon ;)
  • [06:33:10] <mrpacket_> next thing we will hear is that the best chocolate in teh world is Swiss
  • [06:33:12] <emocakes> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/590449-USA/Canon_2750B002_EF_24mm_f_1_4L_II.html
  • [06:33:14] <emocakes> this one
  • [06:33:16] <av500> nikon lenses fit canon cameras just fine :)
  • [06:33:22] <m_billybob> yeah well i have tons of lightning strikes taken with that camera :)
  • [06:33:26] <m_billybob> andthey all lok great
  • [06:33:38] <emocakes> yah but you need a special adapter av500 and even more special to get auto aperture control
  • [06:33:53] <av500> auto is for whimps
  • [06:33:55] <m_billybob> some kind of F banonet adapter
  • [06:34:04] <m_billybob> its not auto on my camera av500
  • [06:34:08] <m_billybob> MF only
  • [06:34:15] <emocakes> av500, yu need electronic aperture control on canon lenses
  • [06:34:19] <emocakes> at least the EF lenses
  • [06:34:22] <av500> yes
  • [06:34:26] <av500> but we said nikon lenses
  • [06:34:29] <emocakes> yah
  • [06:34:36] <emocakes> and we said on canon bodies
  • [06:34:37] <mrpacket_> Nikon sucks
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  • [06:35:10] <av500> bitbanging lenses ftw
  • [06:35:18] <m_billybob> my nikkor lens works pretty good on my Nikon ;)
  • [06:36:03] <m_billybob> a lot of Zeiss glass on Nikkor lenses or used to be
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  • [06:36:08] <av500> lol, that renesas RX toolchain comes in an RPM
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  • [06:36:16] <mrpacket_> Nikon DT?
  • [06:36:31] <LetoThe2nd> av500: aw, renesas in the morning... i was just about to sober u
  • [06:36:45] <m_billybob> renesas toolchina in an RPM ?
  • [06:37:03] <m_billybob> err lol toolchain
  • [06:37:12] <av500> tooljapan
  • [06:37:19] <m_billybob> toolgermany
  • [06:37:25] <av500> made in germany
  • [06:37:41] <av500> Knipex Alligator ftw
  • [06:37:43] <m_billybob> made in my head :)
  • [06:38:05] <m_billybob> av500 so you like the renesas RX ?
  • [06:38:10] <av500> totally
  • [06:38:26] <m_billybob> Spirilis been playing with that kit for trhe last 4 months or so he seems to like it too
  • [06:38:29] <mrpacket_> two web sites, i'm loving
  • [06:38:34] <mrpacket_> www.octopart.com
  • [06:38:39] <mrpacket_> and www.verical.com
  • [06:38:54] <av500> meh, I use dx.com
  • [06:39:02] <av500> for the good stuffz
  • [06:39:15] <av500> m_billybob: i have that joke of a SAKURA board
  • [06:39:26] <m_billybob> not familiar with it
  • [06:39:37] <av500> think RX arduino
  • [06:39:41] <m_billybob> never touched them but i was interrested at some point
  • [06:39:43] <m_billybob> ah
  • [06:39:44] <av500> just without all the support
  • [06:39:47] <av500> and community
  • [06:40:00] <av500> toolchain behind a "sign up and register"
  • [06:40:16] <av500> but there is a web compiler
  • [06:40:16] <av500> in pink
  • [06:40:35] <m_billybob> I only have ... bbb of course a couple msp430 LPs a stellaris LP and an FRDM-KL25z
  • [06:41:00] <m_billybob> Renesas was giving away several RX kits a few months back
  • [06:41:09] <m_billybob> tried getting one but they never mailed me back
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  • [06:42:09] <m_billybob> ug web compiler . . .
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  • [06:42:33] <mrpacket_> octopart.com helps find avaialbility and parts really quickly.
  • [06:43:00] <m_billybob> do a price and availiblity on CC3000 ;)
  • [06:43:16] <mrpacket_> not even sure what a CC3000 is
  • [06:43:26] <av500> m_billybob: I filled out some form
  • [06:43:37] <m_billybob> msp430 FR series with WIFI
  • [06:43:41] <av500> and a some time later a board arrived
  • [06:43:50] <mrpacket_> 3, 1, 8, 23
  • [06:44:03] <mrpacket_> prices between 199.50 and 231.59
  • [06:44:09] <m_billybob> av500 i used my gmail for contact . . .thatsprobably why
  • [06:44:23] <av500> m_billybob: CC3000 was free
  • [06:44:25] <av500> from TI :)
  • [06:44:40] <mrpacket_> av500: got a link?
  • [06:44:41] <m_billybob> mrpacket_ lol thats insane
  • [06:44:47] <mrpacket_> whats inane?
  • [06:44:50] <av500> mrpacket_: TI -> CC3000 -> sample
  • [06:44:54] <m_billybob> thsoe prices
  • [06:45:07] <mrpacket_> insanely expensive, or cheap
  • [06:45:08] <mrpacket_> or what?
  • [06:45:14] <m_billybob> CC3000MOD i should have specified
  • [06:45:20] <m_billybob> way too expensive
  • [06:45:35] <mrpacket_> that makes a bit difference
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  • [06:45:48] <m_billybob> the chips used to be $8 each
  • [06:45:58] <mrpacket_> 11.77 to 14.88
  • [06:46:02] <av500> yes
  • [06:46:05] <av500> and distri prices
  • [06:46:10] <av500> of course they are over the moon
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  • [06:46:24] <av500> nobody pays these
  • [06:46:29] <m_billybob> thats not too bad
  • [06:47:00] <m_billybob> lowbal must be avnet for quantities of 100 +
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  • [06:49:01] <m_billybob> hmm its digikey they've been geting compeditive here lately
  • [06:49:28] <mrpacket_> the eval doesnt seem free
  • [06:49:29] <mrpacket_> :-)\
  • [06:49:43] <m_billybob> ~$40 right ?
  • [06:49:45] <av500> m_billybob: btw, the CC3000 does not have a customer CPU inside
  • [06:49:55] <av500> that comes only later
  • [06:49:58] <av500> M4
  • [06:50:04] <av500> but not out yet
  • [06:50:05] <m_billybob> ?
  • [06:50:28] <av500> [08:43:37] <m_billybob> msp430 FR series with WIFI
  • [06:50:54] <av500> the cc3000 is just the radio
  • [06:50:57] <av500> and stack
  • [06:51:03] <av500> but you cannot run code on it
  • [06:51:09] <av500> so you need another host cpu
  • [06:51:13] <av500> which is stupid
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  • [06:51:23] <av500> hence one with an M4 inside
  • [06:51:27] <av500> later
  • [06:51:29] <m_billybob> http://www.ti.com/product/cc3000
  • [06:51:56] <m_billybob> he TI CC3000 module is a self-contained wireless network processor that simplifies the implementation of Internet connectivity. TI?s SimpleLink Wi-Fi solution minimizes the software requirements of the host microcontroller (MCU) and is thus the ideal solution for embedded applications using any low-cost and low-power MCU.
  • [06:52:03] <av500> yes
  • [06:52:05] <av500> as I said
  • [06:52:09] <av500> it cannot run user code
  • [06:52:26] <av500> which is stupid
  • [06:52:29] <m_billybob> never used one always assumed it could
  • [06:52:32] <av500> no
  • [06:52:40] <av500> you need an external host
  • [06:52:56] <av500> and there is of course an mcu inside
  • [06:52:56] <das> wtf is the point of a NW CPU if you don't build a gateway ?
  • [06:53:10] <av500> that does the ip and wifi stack
  • [06:53:24] <av500> das: IoT
  • [06:53:26] <m_billybob> yeah its the lowest priced wifi modukle
  • [06:53:34] <m_billybob> module*
  • [06:53:48] <av500> well, a wifi moduly is $1.5 in china
  • [06:53:53] <m_billybob> well lowest priced, that I would trust
  • [06:53:59] <av500> but you need an os with a wifi stack
  • [06:54:05] <av500> hence linux
  • [06:54:16] <m_billybob> wiznet has some pretty good stuff too for no OS hosts
  • [06:54:18] <av500> cc3000 is nice for having the stack inside
  • [06:54:28] <av500> m_billybob: yep, git that here somewhere too
  • [06:54:31] <av500> got
  • [06:55:00] <m_billybob> which one ?
  • [06:55:06] <av500> no idea
  • [06:55:10] <av500> lil pcb with a rj45
  • [06:55:16] <m_billybob> hehehe
  • [06:55:23] <av500> coworker
  • [06:55:41] <av500> I think this office has more stuff from side projects than work related :)
  • [06:55:50] <m_billybob> hahaha
  • [06:55:56] <av500> 2 HAMs, another guy and mer
  • [06:55:57] <av500> me
  • [06:56:13] <m_billybob> sounds like me at home
  • [06:56:19] <av500> we should open after work as a tinkerspace
  • [06:56:38] <m_billybob> go for a kickstarter project ;)
  • [06:56:43] <av500> yeah
  • [06:56:46] <m_billybob> ( from work after hours )
  • [06:56:48] <av500> they dont take non-us :)
  • [06:56:57] <m_billybob> no?
  • [06:57:09] <m_billybob> thats silly
  • [06:57:17] <av500> legal reasons
  • [06:57:19] <av500> money involved
  • [06:57:24] <av500> lots potentially
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  • [06:57:38] <m_billybob> should be a way to work aroudn that though
  • [06:57:43] <m_billybob> like being bonded or something
  • [06:58:25] <av500> when I ordered the cc3000 sample from TI I expected a small EVM
  • [06:58:32] <av500> not the naked module :)
  • [06:59:04] <av500> like this http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/450-0089/450-0089-ND/3024964?WT.z_cid=ref_octopart_dkc_buynow
  • [06:59:05] <m_billybob> you're in germany ?
  • [06:59:09] <av500> Ja
  • [06:59:24] <m_billybob> should make a quickstarter scene there ;)
  • [06:59:40] <av500> yeah
  • [06:59:54] <m_billybob> I lived in Kitzegen for 3 years
  • [06:59:57] <m_billybob> back in the 80's
  • [07:00:42] <m_billybob> close to Wurzburg
  • [07:01:18] <m_billybob> guess that would have been Kitzigen
  • [07:01:34] <av500> ....The problem is that the Sakura firmware and library is the property of the Tokushu Denshi Kairo Inc. They don't want to publish it.You can buy an RXduino full license (for 94,500 yen), but I don't know what this exactly mean. ...
  • [07:01:43] <av500> \o/
  • [07:01:47] <av500> yay for a dev board
  • [07:02:00] <av500> I think I will shoot it
  • [07:02:24] <av500> epic: http://renesasrulz.com/app_kits_and_demo_boards/gadget_renesas_user_forum/f/128/t/3923.aspx
  • [07:02:47] <m_billybob> So the toolchain for say an RX600 wouldnt work ?
  • [07:03:03] <av500> no idea
  • [07:03:14] <m_billybob> I bet Spirilis could tell ya
  • [07:03:19] <av500> I'm not really interested
  • [07:03:28] <av500> I just wanted the "out of the box" experience
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  • [07:04:20] <m_billybob> that doesnt even look like an RX600 kit
  • [07:04:38] <m_billybob> the RX600 i think it was, has an LCD and all kinds of experimentors stuff on it
  • [07:04:44] <av500> its a SAKURA!
  • [07:04:51] <m_billybob> i know . . .
  • [07:05:00] <av500> http://sakuraboard.net/
  • [07:05:11] <av500> japanese girls dig it
  • [07:05:30] <m_billybob> lol
  • [07:05:39] <m_billybob> I bet someone will eventually port gcc over to it
  • [07:05:51] <m_billybob> well i mean if it takes off
  • [07:05:54] <das> "Now I know there are a lot of software like corpses lying under the name as open source." awww :(
  • [07:06:11] <av500> m_billybob: there is gcc
  • [07:07:37] <Russ> its pink
  • [07:07:44] <av500> yes
  • [07:07:48] <av500> that is about it
  • [07:07:54] <Russ> where do you get pink soldermask?
  • [07:08:00] <av500> in japan
  • [07:08:07] <m_billybob> wait a minute it uses a web based toolchain too !
  • [07:08:13] <KotH> JIHAD! IN JAPAN!
  • [07:08:16] <m_billybob> so they can steal your code when you'renot looking
  • [07:08:32] <Russ> I like the translations
  • [07:08:39] <Russ> "Let's change the flashing lights!"
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  • [07:10:04] <m_billybob> echo "blinky" > usrled0
  • [07:10:58] <KotH> av500: apropos japanese... i have to show you my manga style linux beginners book :)
  • [07:11:16] <KotH> av500: http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%81%BD%E3%81%88%E3%82%8A%E3%81%AA-Linux%E8%90%8C%E3%81%88%E8%90%8C%E3%81%88%E5%A4%A7%E4%BD%9C%E6%88%A6/dp/4798007935/ :-)
  • [07:11:29] <mrpacket_> KotH: chocolate, Nikon, Mac, Apple Linux, Hybrid, Coke, Pepsi, Vodka
  • [07:11:52] <KotH> mrpacket_: did you eat too much kiwi or something?
  • [07:12:09] <mrpacket_> no, i was just giving you todays topic list
  • [07:12:18] <mrpacket_> so you can keep the trolling going while we sleep
  • [07:12:42] <mrpacket_> its now a relay
  • [07:12:43] <mrpacket_> race
  • [07:12:51] <m_billybob> tag you're it ?
  • [07:12:56] <KotH> ok...
  • [07:13:00] <KotH> i'll keep going!
  • [07:13:03] <KotH> er...
  • [07:13:07] <KotH> i'll keep trolling!
  • [07:13:20] <mrpacket_> i think also theres a new assigment being done on BBB
  • [07:13:33] <mrpacket_> " I can't compile 1-wire Fs for blackbone "
  • [07:13:47] <mrpacket_> can we shoot these teachers
  • [07:13:50] <m_billybob> no there is another better assignment
  • [07:14:07] <m_billybob> "howto install an AGO video card on your BBB"
  • [07:14:12] <m_billybob> AGP*
  • [07:14:39] <av500> how can I install omap_mux on my BBB?
  • [07:14:49] <m_billybob> problem is i can figure out which side im supposed to plug it into
  • [07:14:54] <Russ> av500, have you tried turning off and back on?
  • [07:14:59] <maxinux> i need VLB video
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  • [07:15:19] <m_billybob> av500 seriousl i thik my favorite is "how do i install rasbian on my BBB?"
  • [07:15:31] <Russ> maxinux, I imagine there are people here who don't remember what that is
  • [07:15:40] <maxinux> Russ: i bet many do not
  • [07:15:58] <maxinux> Russ: nor even what ISA was, or MFM, or floppy drives
  • [07:16:06] <maxinux> i never had to use mfm
  • [07:16:11] <maxinux> well not directly
  • [07:16:13] <Russ> ISA is a classic bus, people who weren't around for it will be aware of it
  • [07:16:15] * m_billybob still has a workign 80MB MFM HDD
  • [07:16:20] <Russ> VLB was too short lived
  • [07:16:34] <m_billybob> that was IBM wasnt it ?
  • [07:16:35] <KotH> maxinux: use the power of PRU
  • [07:16:49] <Russ> what, vlb?
  • [07:16:52] <maxinux> +++ATH OK
  • [07:16:53] <m_billybob> yeah
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  • [07:16:56] <Russ> vesa
  • [07:17:00] <maxinux> local bus
  • [07:17:05] <m_billybob> right
  • [07:17:07] <Russ> ibm was micro channel
  • [07:17:12] <m_billybob> ah ok
  • [07:17:18] <maxinux> ugh ps/2s
  • [07:17:26] <KotH> maxinux: lol
  • [07:17:37] <KotH> maxinux: that thing didnt work for at least 20 years
  • [07:17:42] <maxinux> heheh
  • [07:17:48] <maxinux> packard bell.
  • [07:17:51] <m_billybob> my first personally owned computer had ISA slots
  • [07:17:58] <maxinux> same
  • [07:18:08] <maxinux> mine had a 100 meg isa hard drive (hard card)
  • [07:18:15] <m_billybob> hehe
  • [07:18:41] <KotH> Russ: only the later PS/2 were mca, the earlier weren't
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  • [07:18:52] <maxinux> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plus_Hardcard_20_with_plexiglass_cover.JPG
  • [07:18:52] <m_billybob> mine originally came with a 4MB MFMdrive . . i BIOS low level formated it and it went bad
  • [07:18:54] <Russ> tell maxinux, not me
  • [07:18:55] <KotH> Russ: and of course the RS/6000 and AS/400 used it as some point in time
  • [07:18:58] <mrpackethead> ok, i love that
  • [07:18:59] <mrpackethead> :-)
  • [07:19:03] <m_billybob> someone managed to talk the store into replacing it
  • [07:19:12] <m_billybob> 40MB MFM*
  • [07:19:17] <mrpackethead> seemingly seemless migration between laptops!
  • [07:19:22] <maxinux> well hmm guess it was an 80 mb.. harcard II 80
  • [07:19:23] <Russ> m_billybob, I was going to say, 4MB? that would go way back
  • [07:19:40] <m_billybob> my computer experience predates 4MB drives
  • [07:19:54] <m_billybob> Commodore pet / 64
  • [07:20:01] <Russ> ah, the 6502 days
  • [07:20:02] <maxinux> hahah
  • [07:20:09] <maxinux> we have a comodor 128 sx portable
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  • [07:21:08] <KotH> Russ: you should talk to mdp :)
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  • [07:21:20] <Russ> I'm well aware of mdp's "antics"
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  • [07:22:24] <m_billybob> heh i still have an 286, and 486 laptop aroudn somewhere
  • [07:22:31] <m_billybob> well might have thrown out the 286
  • [07:22:40] <m_billybob> it was a beast
  • [07:23:30] <m_billybob> both of those outlasted an HP P4 laptop though
  • [07:23:37] <Russ> I recently ridded myself of a few x32 systems around the house, replacing them with smaller, quieter, power efficient systems. nice change
  • [07:23:57] <Russ> I think I have one x32 box left
  • [07:23:59] <maxinux> probably replace them with a beaglebone
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  • [07:24:29] <Russ> beaglebone doesn't fit the requirements for any of them
  • [07:24:31] <m_billybob> I need to do that myself. including the bbb here im sitting in a room with 7 computer the bbb being the only ARM system
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  • [07:24:58] <Russ> the smaller, quieter systems are still intel
  • [07:25:01] <av500> KotH: I had RS6000 on my uni desk
  • [07:25:04] <av500> not for long
  • [07:25:12] <maxinux> hahah
  • [07:25:20] <av500> I moved it into a cupboard and got really long mouse and kbd cables
  • [07:25:28] <av500> and long BNC cables for the monitr
  • [07:25:29] <maxinux> at one point i had a good collection of old slab hardware... next, sgi, sun..
  • [07:25:40] <maxinux> then collected cubes for a while
  • [07:25:45] <m_billybob> Russ, core i's id imagine ?
  • [07:26:18] <Russ> lets see...
  • [07:26:22] <m_billybob> I always wanted an sgi back in the day could never afford one thouh
  • [07:27:04] <Russ> N2600, i3, i7, D2500
  • [07:27:07] <av500> gradually I am shifting to collecting hardware that is older than me
  • [07:27:18] <av500> the new stuff is not worth it
  • [07:27:42] <maxinux> mine were just after their haydays... got them from back offices from an employer of mine.. there was an entire lab i emptied out.. got so many full working systems that had been used for testing
  • [07:28:08] <maxinux> i wonder if you can still get anything dumpster diving
  • [07:28:28] <m_billybob> dunno
  • [07:28:31] <Russ> my holdout is a VIA C7
  • [07:28:34] <m_billybob> seems like probably not
  • [07:28:56] <m_billybob> ah via . . .
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  • [07:29:14] <maxinux> i live in the bay area near the hardware manufacturing area where i used to always get lucky .. i should try again
  • [07:29:28] <m_billybob> my newest intel system has an ABIT otherboard in it, that should tell you how old it is lol
  • [07:29:28] * Russ notices his VIA C7 has had a serious ext4-fs error and remount / ro
  • [07:29:39] <maxinux> doh
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  • [07:30:04] <m_billybob> maxinux yeah ? where abouts ? I grew up in Sonoma
  • [07:30:11] <maxinux> i grew up in fairfield
  • [07:30:19] <m_billybob> thats where i was born lol
  • [07:30:21] <maxinux> but, was referring to fremont/milpitas/hayward
  • [07:30:24] <m_billybob> travis . . .
  • [07:30:32] <maxinux> air force brat
  • [07:30:35] <maxinux> :D
  • [07:30:37] <m_billybob> yeap
  • [07:30:51] * Russ types reboot and crosses fingers
  • [07:30:56] <m_billybob> hehehe
  • [07:31:10] <maxinux> good luck russ!
  • [07:31:25] <m_billybob> so yeah dumpster diving on the left coast . .probably not
  • [07:31:43] <m_billybob> California pretty bad about recyclign now days
  • [07:32:09] <maxinux> yeah, but people leave the equipment outside waiting for recycling
  • [07:32:15] <maxinux> so you grab from that pile :D
  • [07:32:22] <m_billybob> :)
  • [07:32:43] <Russ> maxinux, stuck on "Loading initial ramdisk ..."...seems like a bad SD card
  • [07:32:56] <maxinux> :(
  • [07:33:14] <Russ> actually its not even SD, its CF
  • [07:33:19] <m_billybob> PXE boot time ;)
  • [07:33:36] <m_billybob> ouch
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  • [07:34:22] <Russ> hmm...powercycling the box rather than just doing a sysrq-b seems to have given me an fsck prompt
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  • [07:35:17] <maxinux> fsck -y # and pick your favorite deity
  • [07:35:48] <Russ> seems like minor errors http://hastebin.com/semuhibusa.xml
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  • [07:37:44] <Russ> and we're back...need to keep a close eye on that system
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  • [07:38:01] <m_billybob> nice
  • [07:38:29] <Russ> I suspect either massive file system corruption in the not so distant future, or a dead box
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  • [07:39:48] <Russ> asterisk didn't seem to mind that for more 2 months, it couldn't write anything to disk
  • [07:39:54] <m_billybob> well, maybe you can sel it on ebay and pick up a couple of bbb's from it ? ;)
  • [07:40:06] <Russ> a via c7? not bloody likely
  • [07:40:18] <Russ> especially since if it has issues, it'll probably be due to caps
  • [07:40:49] <m_billybob> thers a sucker born evry minute, and i mean you dotn even have ot try and rip someone off. someone will probably want a collectible
  • [07:40:58] <m_billybob> caps can be replaced though
  • [07:41:10] <Russ> pita
  • [07:41:35] <av500> I just replaced caps
  • [07:41:41] <av500> 15u/450V :)
  • [07:41:44] <m_billybob> ah yeah VIA C7 that was probably aroudn the time all those bad caps were floating about
  • [07:42:23] <Russ> av500, I saw your pics
  • [07:42:25] <Russ> tubes ok?
  • [07:42:36] <m_billybob> I had an AMD thunderbird core motherboard that died prematurly like that
  • [07:43:22] <av500> Russ: yeah
  • [07:43:26] <av500> and pretty std tubes
  • [07:43:31] <av500> easy to replace
  • [07:43:36] <av500> I have a lot of spares
  • [07:44:09] <Russ> yup, one of the systems I swapped out recently was one of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188016
  • [07:44:16] <Russ> horrible crusties on the caps
  • [07:45:48] <m_billybob> hehe i have a similar board made by ABIT though. Still runs. has an Opteron in it
  • [07:46:25] <KotH> Russ: uhmm.. crusted caps?
  • [07:46:32] <m_billybob> opteron 1210 s i recall
  • [07:46:49] <KotH> Russ: be glad it didnt start to burn ^^'
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  • [07:48:03] <Russ> KotH, http://imgur.com/gAxj86Y.jpg
  • [07:48:32] <KotH> Russ: i know how they look
  • [07:48:39] <Russ> no fire :)
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  • [07:48:44] <KotH> Russ: seen too many of them already ^^'
  • [07:48:51] <KotH> Russ: as i said, be glad about that :)
  • [07:49:29] <KotH> weirdest thing i've ever seen on a pc board was that the coil(!) of one board caught fire
  • [07:49:42] <panto> gm
  • [07:49:49] <KotH> salut panto
  • [07:49:59] <m_billybob> mornin panto
  • [07:50:08] <panto> hi KotH, m_billybob
  • [07:51:42] <mrpackethead> almost there
  • [07:51:50] <mrpackethead> a new machine, almsot all the apps working
  • [07:52:07] <m_billybob> had an interesting ah ha moment today
  • [07:52:26] <m_billybob> do keep in mind im an embedded linux newb so . . .
  • [07:52:30] <m_billybob> uptime > /dev/ttyO0 && printf '\r' >/dev/ttyO0
  • [07:52:48] <m_billybob> thought that was rather neet
  • [07:53:00] <Russ> uptime | unix2dos > /dev/ttyO0
  • [07:53:56] <Russ> or use stty
  • [07:54:03] <Russ> onlcr
  • [07:54:09] <m_billybob> lol
  • [07:54:10] <m_billybob> -bash: unix2dos: command not found
  • [07:54:15] <m_billybob> no biggy
  • [07:54:53] <m_billybob> i tried onlcr and it doesnt work
  • [07:55:21] <Russ> stty -F /dev/ttyO0 onlcr?
  • [07:55:55] <m_billybob> nothing
  • [07:56:10] <m_billybob> no error no message out on serial
  • [07:56:27] <panto> yeah, cause what is the default serial mode?
  • [07:56:32] <panto> I bet it's with f/w flow control
  • [07:56:39] <m_billybob> none
  • [07:56:40] <av500> DOS mode
  • [07:56:43] <m_billybob> oh you mean on the bbb
  • [07:56:49] <panto> right
  • [07:57:54] <m_billybob> idk i was going ot use it to log every command issies on the bbb, but then had a sudden realization "hey putty has loggging built in" . . .
  • [07:58:05] <m_billybob> every command I issued*
  • [07:59:40] <m_billybob> Still, coming from a devicethat has no OS on it. It seems really nifty, and honestly quite simple by comparrison
  • [08:00:32] <das> sweet: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/arnd/flashbench.git;a=tree
  • [08:00:37] <m_billybob> granted getting uart printf() workign on somethign liek an msp430 can be done in as litle as 200-300 bytes for text only
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  • [08:05:02] <m_billybob> err type char * double it for int ( any base )
  • [08:06:03] * mranostay harlem shakes in
  • [08:11:36] <mranostay> trollolololollololo
  • [08:12:58] <RagBal> What is the difference between RobertCNelson kernel sources and the 'official' beaglebone repo?
  • [08:14:26] <mrpackethead> Roberts a way cooler repo
  • [08:14:35] <mrpackethead> official is just uncool, like Nikon
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  • [08:14:45] * mranostay wishs he had kernel branch named after him
  • [08:14:47] <KotH> Canon?
  • [08:14:52] <KotH> Minolta/Sony?
  • [08:14:53] * mranostay cries
  • [08:15:12] <av500> mranostay: make one
  • [08:15:13] <KotH> mranostay: make one, make it good, make it popular
  • [08:15:24] <av500> or kang one
  • [08:15:48] <mranostay> X86 BITCHES!
  • [08:16:04] <av500> or buy a cheap kernel in china
  • [08:16:05] <m_billybob> just base it on debian
  • [08:16:12] <mranostay> kids don't drunk and irc
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  • [08:18:03] <easyw> help on detect RS232 signal Break condiction (BBB)
  • [08:18:30] <av500> BreakBreakBreak
  • [08:19:16] <easyw> help on detect RS232 signal Break condiction (BeagleBoardBlack)
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  • [08:20:28] <dm8tbr> easyw: what is a signal break condition?
  • [08:22:05] <mranostay> hi dm8tbr
  • [08:22:20] <easyw> A "break condition" occurs when the receiver input is at the "space" level for longer than some duration of time, typically, for more than a character time. This is not necessarily an error, but appears to the receiver as a character of all zero bits with a framing error. It used to sync communication through equipmrent
  • [08:23:27] <Russ> http://linux.die.net/man/4/tty_ioctl
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  • [08:24:17] <Russ> http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/termios.3.html
  • [08:24:40] <koen> jackmitchell: I see you fell into the trap of feeding the lazarman troll :)
  • [08:25:25] <jackmitchell> koen: huh?
  • [08:25:43] <jackmitchell> koen: oh, yes, I remember
  • [08:26:05] <jackmitchell> I couldn't help it; that piece of information couldn't stay on the mailing list unattended
  • [08:26:15] <easyw> @ Russ ... have you an example code in c to detect break? thank you
  • [08:26:36] <Russ> no
  • [08:27:21] <das> ah c'mon Russ, please do my homework
  • [08:27:36] <jackmitchell> easyw....easywork?
  • [08:28:26] <easyw> i already tried some code but without success ...
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  • [08:28:50] <Russ> the documentation is pretty good, I'd start there
  • [08:28:57] <jackmitchell> if you show us he code, then maybe we can direct you to the bits which look suspect
  • [08:31:32] <easyw> ok ... I'm going to...
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  • [08:35:48] <mranostay> make KotH delete chocolate
  • [08:36:19] <RagBal> koen, can you comment on my question perhaps? =)
  • [08:36:41] <Russ> I should go get some chocolate
  • [08:36:58] <Russ> its only see's, I'm sure my european counterparts would not approve
  • [08:36:59] <easyw> #include <sys/types.h> #include <sys/stat.h> #include <fcntl.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <string.h> #include <errno.h> #include <termios.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <sys/ioctl.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <termios.h> #include <signal.h> __sighandler_t sighandle(int signum, __sighandler_t h) { //fprintf(stderr, "BREAK DETECTED\n"); printf("break com received\n"); signal(SIGINT, (__sighandler_t) sighandle); r
  • [08:37:08] <LetoThe2nd> MY EYES!
  • [08:37:10] <jackmitchell> easyw: pastebin
  • [08:37:19] <Russ> I was afraid this would happen
  • [08:37:30] <jackmitchell> Russ: I almost said, it but I gave too much credit
  • [08:38:11] <jackmitchell> koen: reading the MinnowBoard thread; Darren mentions 3.8-stable to G-KH; uh-oh!
  • [08:39:22] <mranostay> Russ: eff the swiss!
  • [08:39:38] <easyw> ??? hey, this is the code I did modify to set bit for detect the break, but thhe only event I capture is ctrl+c and not the serial break
  • [08:40:47] <jackmitchell> easyw: post the code to pastebin, then I'll possibly look at it
  • [08:40:51] <Russ> mranostay, you might want to avoid saying that around the swiss guard
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  • [08:41:56] <Russ> jackmitchell, he took code from an example that the poster says doesn't work
  • [08:42:21] <easyw> http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=JwDDRW3m
  • [08:42:55] <mranostay> Russ: they couldn't guard @$@#!
  • [08:42:58] <easyw> ok, sorry I posted the code...
  • [08:43:40] <mranostay> easyw: 12345
  • [08:43:52] <easyw> http://pastebin.com/JwDDRW3m
  • [08:44:20] <Russ> mranostay, have you been to Versailles?
  • [08:44:57] <kfoltman> mranostay: well, a few popes would disagree ;)
  • [08:45:06] <Russ> er, actually I'm thinking of Tuileries Palace
  • [08:45:56] <jackmitchell> easyw: that code looks like nonsense, but from a quick glace I'll give you one piece of advice
  • [08:46:21] <jackmitchell> easyw: if you are trying to catch the break signal; then why on line 37 do you set it to specifically ignore it?
  • [08:46:51] <Russ> jacekowski, that's a clear
  • [08:46:56] <Russ> &= ~
  • [08:46:59] * LetoThe2nd just misread "ricezione" for "ricezone"
  • [08:47:15] <jackmitchell> Russ: ah; that'll teach me to trust the comments
  • [08:47:23] <Russ> I would really use the 0xff 0x00 0x00
  • [08:49:29] <Russ> this program exits immediately, no?
  • [08:49:46] <Russ> er, no
  • [08:50:07] <Russ> but the loop does look to be a busy wait, which you probably don't want
  • [08:51:19] <easyw> the program should wait in loop until a character is received ...if(buf[i]=='*')
  • [08:51:37] <Russ> actually no
  • [08:51:47] <Russ> read will return -1, errno EAGAIN
  • [08:51:55] <Russ> loop will past it's buffer
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  • [08:52:03] <av500> jackmitchell: ....I looked you up and can assure you I have been doing this longer than you have been alive, actually you look like some amateur linux gamer
  • [08:52:11] <av500> jackmitchell: I got that once from lazarman
  • [08:53:05] <Russ> probably run into a '*' at some point and end
  • [08:53:18] <jackmitchell> av500: heh, I haven't seen the reply; I'll go look
  • [08:54:10] <Russ> er, set_blocking doesn't do what I expected it to do
  • [08:54:17] <jackmitchell> av500: I don't seem to have the reply, link?
  • [08:54:33] <jackmitchell> maybe my inbox automatically rejected it
  • [08:54:40] <Russ> its like you wrote code for the sole purpose of burning people's eyes
  • [08:55:49] <av500> jackmitchell: that was in private mail
  • [08:56:00] <easyw> @ Russ : you mean it is not indented? or you think it is bad written?
  • [08:56:04] <jackmitchell> av500: ah; that us poor
  • [08:56:11] <jackmitchell> s/us/is
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  • [08:58:49] <av500> because I want a $235 piece of elctronics *outside* of my door: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/goji-smart-lock?browse_v=new
  • [08:59:47] <das> I've always wondered how you'd open your door if an electronics mechanism fails
  • [09:00:13] <philenotfound> bruteforce
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  • [09:00:23] <das> try every door ?
  • [09:00:46] <das> or dictionnary attack a indow maybe, that'd get you in
  • [09:01:31] <dm8tbr> if the dictionary is heavy and sturdy enough that should be sufficient ;)
  • [09:01:32] <philenotfound> hitting it and trying a dictionary swear word attack
  • [09:01:36] <Russ> easyw, the indentation, yes
  • [09:02:13] <kfoltman> dictionary sword?
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  • [09:02:23] <Russ> how short is the person in that picture?
  • [09:02:56] <Russ> das, 'The Goji Smart Lock also comes with two mechanical keys as backups in case you ever need them.'
  • [09:03:19] <das> so it's as insecure as a lock with keys
  • [09:03:45] <Russ> its not to improve security, its to improve convenience I think
  • [09:04:02] <easyw> @Russ: thanks for your advice to use 0xff 0x00 0x00, but that sequence of bytes, can be in the structure of the messagge that I would need to capture, I'm just using ascii character cos they are printable on the screen, sorry for the code format
  • [09:04:29] <Russ> I think if you receive an 0xff, you'll instead read 0xff 0xff
  • [09:05:07] * das dreams of opening his door using RSA
  • [09:05:12] <Russ> das, realtors use a very similar system already, just not as fancy looking
  • [09:06:13] <av500> sure, electronic locks exist
  • [09:06:23] <av500> I just marvelled at the expensive part outside
  • [09:06:59] <das> "Someone stole my lock !"
  • [09:07:16] <Russ> pretty sure its secured by screws from the other side, but you could certainly smash it
  • [09:07:20] <av500> at least you can maybe take a photo of the vandal
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  • [09:16:11] * Russ finally gets to the "Now I know there are a lot of software like corpses lying under the name as open source."
  • [09:16:40] <av500> :)
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  • [09:18:16] * Russ wonders how luke's allwinner meeting went
  • [09:18:49] <Russ> can someone make a youtube video of how that might go down, with those animated characters like in the bad ass rockstar tech video?
  • [09:19:07] <das> is there a youtube tutorial to make youtube videos ?
  • [09:19:43] <Russ> what I really need is one for watching youtube videos
  • [09:19:46] <av500> no, but there is a tutorial for one
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  • [09:37:55] <av500> wow
  • [09:37:58] <av500> got a mail from TI
  • [09:38:04] <av500> they tell me about the new BBB
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  • [09:39:41] <ynezz> old
  • [09:40:06] <kfoltman> av500: corporate time dilation?
  • [09:40:11] <av500> guess so
  • [09:40:29] <av500> well, its from German TI
  • [09:40:33] <av500> I guess the translation took time
  • [09:40:48] <das> THeil ?
  • [09:42:03] <koen> BBS?
  • [09:46:31] <RagBal> When building Angstrom for machine beaglebone and image ti-hw-bringup-image, what machine configuration does it use? The one from meta-ti or meta-beagleboard?
  • [09:46:34] <jackmitchell> I thought TI wanted nothing to do with the BBB
  • [09:46:49] <jackmitchell> or just wanted no software responsibility
  • [09:47:23] <av500> TI loves it
  • [09:47:48] <dm8tbr> sure, it cranks out lots of units AND makes people use that silicon later in commercial projects...
  • [09:48:01] <dm8tbr> or makes them buy lots of BBB for commercial projects
  • [09:48:23] <dm8tbr> as the BB(B) uses unsubsidized silicon AFAIU
  • [09:48:43] <jackmitchell> I agree, I see no reason why they wouldn't but I was under the impression that they didn't want to be associated with it for some reason
  • [09:49:23] <jackmitchell> maybe I'm imagining things again; I'll put it down to lack of beer
  • [09:49:33] <m_billybob> they probably own stock in CC
  • [09:49:45] <m_billybob> read: own the equipment
  • [09:50:26] <m_billybob> seeing as how several people on this project are TI emp[loyees . . .
  • [09:51:11] <koen> no stock, no equipment
  • [09:51:14] <jackmitchell> m_billybob: uh-oh; you'll upset people
  • [09:51:17] <koen> no $ from TI anywhere
  • [09:51:43] <Russ> m_billybob, I'm willing to be you know things about the jfk assassination that could blow my mind
  • [09:51:46] <jackmitchell> and by people I mean koen ;)
  • [09:52:00] <Russ> koen doesn't work for TI
  • [09:52:13] <m_billybob> Russ, no i wasnt born quite yet. but what are people supposed to think ?
  • [09:52:19] <Russ> oh, got the two conversations confused
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  • [09:52:50] <Russ> m_billybob, circuitco actually makes boards for other SoC vendors as well
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  • [09:53:13] <Russ> see: http://www.minnowboard.org/
  • [09:53:24] <m_billybob> Ok ill just stfu now, but several people doing work for at through CC work for ti
  • [09:53:27] <m_billybob> use your imagination.
  • [09:53:31] <jackmitchell> just in on Phoronix: Mir Development Stats Dominated By Canonical!
  • [09:53:38] <av500> lol
  • [09:53:40] <m_billybob> for or at*
  • [09:53:40] <jackmitchell> _shock_ _horror_
  • [09:54:15] <av500> m_billybob: jkridner and Gerald work for TI
  • [09:54:25] <Russ> yup
  • [09:54:25] <av500> koen used to, but is now at CCO
  • [09:54:29] <koen> m_billybob: noone works "through CCO"
  • [09:54:33] <m_billybob> also a couple ex employees too
  • [09:54:37] <koen> they either work for CCO or they don't
  • [09:54:51] <m_billybob> so owner of CCO works for ti . . .
  • [09:55:02] <m_billybob> anyhow
  • [09:55:02] <Russ> and promoting dev boards with your SoC is kindof a no brainer
  • [09:55:12] <m_billybob> yes . . .
  • [09:55:16] <m_billybob> i didnt say it was a bad thing
  • [09:55:22] <Russ> wait, the owner of CCO works for TI?
  • [09:55:32] <koen> the only ex-TI people at CCO are Bridget and me
  • [09:55:39] <m_billybob> who owns CCO ?
  • [09:55:45] <koen> clint owns CCO
  • [09:55:47] <Russ> koen, I think you are forgetting one
  • [09:55:51] <m_billybob> then im mistaken
  • [09:56:03] <koen> Russ: and the plague of course
  • [09:57:15] <Russ> I lke how clint's initials match circuitco
  • [09:57:37] <av500> CC, the CEO of CCO
  • [09:57:41] <av500> CCCEOCCO
  • [09:57:46] <m_billybob> heh
  • [09:57:50] <Russ> and how Gerald's last name is *almost* Clint's first
  • [09:57:53] <av500> CCCCCEO
  • [10:05:36] <m_billybob> I was under the impression that Gerald owned the company. but I was wrong.
  • [10:05:47] <Russ> heh
  • [10:05:59] <Russ> TI and circuitco work closely together on the beaglebone project, true
  • [10:06:11] <Russ> but circuitco is bigger than beaglebone
  • [10:06:19] <m_billybob> I have a bbb in hand and that is all that really matters to me
  • [10:06:27] <m_billybob> yeah i did notice that
  • [10:06:41] <Russ> gerald is mr beaglebone
  • [10:06:46] <m_billybob> been seeing lots of adds in trade magazinesthe last couple of months
  • [10:07:00] <m_billybob> ads*
  • [10:08:14] <av500> Russ: Gerald is Beagledad
  • [10:08:20] <av500> jkridner is Beaglemom
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  • [10:14:56] <m_billybob> So . . .wheres my beer ?
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  • [10:23:34] <KotH> m_billybob: mranostay stole it
  • [10:24:04] <m_billybob> I guess i didnt troll good enough then
  • [10:24:11] <m_billybob> though . . .i wasnt meaning to.
  • [10:28:29] <kfoltman> m_billybob: no, perhaps you don't need beer as much as him
  • [10:28:56] <m_billybob> kfoltman was my "guide" helpful at all ?
  • [10:28:59] <kfoltman> ... as much as he does
  • [10:29:12] <kfoltman> m_billybob: didn't have chance to look at it yet, I'm still working on the STM32 side of things
  • [10:29:42] <m_billybob> ah been lookign for feedback on it. but when you get the chance let me know what you think
  • [10:29:52] <m_billybob> good, orbad
  • [10:30:24] <m_billybob> the idea, is hopefully to keep people from having to go through what I did
  • [10:30:29] <kfoltman> m_billybob: I'm a bit slow, unfortunately, especially when it comes to learning a new architecture and new concepts at the same time
  • [10:30:45] <m_billybob> e.g. search all corners of the internet to find information
  • [10:31:07] <m_billybob> you're not alone
  • [10:31:14] <m_billybob> big change for me this
  • [10:31:17] <kfoltman> currently I'm at a stage where I'm trying to get the STM32's timer to give me the ratio between codec's clock and the USB SOF clock, and it's not the easiest thing ever (not very hard, just fiddly)
  • [10:31:39] <kfoltman> and that means fighting with input capture channels and the umpteen multiplexers in the timer :)
  • [10:32:10] <m_billybob> dont think i know what you're working on
  • [10:32:52] <m_billybob> not really familiar with the STM32 at all
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  • [10:40:10] <Crofton> I just it to be clear this is not my pinterest account
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  • [10:40:13] <Crofton> http://pinterest.com/croftonsdr/
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  • [10:41:08] <av500> Crofton: nice try
  • [10:41:31] <das> in french, "pine" means dick. pinterest has a funny sound :)
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  • [10:49:49] <av500> nice: https://www.tindie.com/products/spirilis/beaglebone-black-ftdi-friction-fit/
  • [10:49:59] <Crofton|work> There is some guy with to much time on his hands
  • [10:52:52] <m_billybob> heh i see Spirilis has been busy again
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  • [10:54:29] <dm8tbr> av500: heh, but that's a custom design, isn't it?
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  • [10:54:38] <ynezz> m_billybob: yep, that nick sounds familiar to me :p
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  • [10:55:13] <m_billybob> ynezz yeah like typ spi<tab> here and see what happens ;)
  • [10:55:50] <ynezz> but I've rather meant his msprf24 warez
  • [10:55:52] <ynezz> :)
  • [10:56:26] <m_billybob> ah i havent played with those nordic wireles stuff yet
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  • [11:00:30] <av500> dm8tbr: custom as in?
  • [11:01:18] <dm8tbr> not an 2??? part from dx.com, but designed to squeeze fit in exactly that spot on a BBB
  • [11:01:58] <dm8tbr> given that it has ttyO5(?) printed on it, I'd say it is
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  • [11:02:09] <cityLights> hi
  • [11:02:21] <av500> dm8tbr: well yes
  • [11:02:21] <cityLights> I installed ubuntu on the BBB to use it with wireless
  • [11:02:43] <cityLights> what package offers GPIO control?
  • [11:02:47] <cityLights> for python?
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  • [11:03:06] <dm8tbr> what does gpio have to do with wireless?
  • [11:03:23] <cityLights> nothing
  • [11:04:02] <cityLights> 1. I want the BBB to use wireless on boot. After I wasn't successfull with the provided OS , I installed ubuntu
  • [11:04:29] <cityLights> 2. On the BBB I use ubuntu, what to install to have GPIO control from python?
  • [11:04:51] <av500> python can read and write files?
  • [11:04:56] <cityLights> sure
  • [11:04:59] <av500> then you dont need to install anything
  • [11:05:03] <av500> gpio is in sysfs
  • [11:05:19] <cityLights> but I do need to export...
  • [11:05:35] <av500> export?
  • [11:05:40] <cityLights> by the way is koen here?
  • [11:06:00] <av500> he's out for lunch
  • [11:06:01] <cityLights> I need to write to /sys/class/gpio/export to revele the gpio
  • [11:06:14] <av500> no
  • [11:06:21] <av500> you need to load a DT fragment
  • [11:06:30] <cityLights> what is that?
  • [11:06:35] <av500> for the pin muxing
  • [11:06:40] <cityLights> where to read about it?
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  • [11:06:46] <av500> the mailing list
  • [11:07:02] <cityLights> need I search " DT fragment" ?
  • [11:07:04] <av500> besides, python can read/write files
  • [11:07:14] <av500> so it can also write to /sys/class/gpio/export
  • [11:07:20] <av500> lunch here too
  • [11:08:07] <cityLights> av500: yes , but I prefer a lib that handles it
  • [11:08:57] <jackmitchell> cityLights: there is no lib
  • [11:09:05] <jackmitchell> cityLights: the file handling lib is the lib
  • [11:09:46] <av500> then write a lib
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  • [11:10:35] <dm8tbr> or pay someone to write a lib :)
  • [11:10:49] <dm8tbr> Hire me. My rate would be onehundredandfifty an hour. Plus VAT and expenses. Four hours minimum. Dollars for small problems, Euros for big problems. British Pounds for management problems.
  • [11:10:50] <cityLights> ok, is there any sample code for using the gpio to read a button with the de-bouncing
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  • [11:11:20] <jackmitchell> cityLights: I don't think so, but you can set a gpio to be a button with debouncing in the kernel
  • [11:11:35] <jackmitchell> cityLights: how, I don't know; but I do know you can
  • [11:13:08] <dm8tbr> jackmitchell: I guess that would be the aforementioned dt fragment
  • [11:13:38] <jackmitchell> dm8tbr: I agree, a requested gpio with the gpio-button module set as compatible; but I don't want to get into it myself ;)
  • [11:13:56] <dm8tbr> ;)
  • [11:14:12] <av500> https://github.com/adafruit/adafruit-beaglebone-io-python
  • [11:14:32] <koen> gpio-keys
  • [11:14:52] <jackmitchell> ^ ^ that's the one
  • [11:14:54] <dm8tbr> OMG lady ada ruined my business model! /o\
  • [11:15:45] <dm8tbr> wait, I could still rake in cash and sell her library...
  • [11:15:52] <av500> hmm, why does a python lib use C?
  • [11:17:09] <av500> seems that writing files in python is hard
  • [11:17:28] <panto> python is only for operating microwave ovens
  • [11:17:38] <bradfa> +1 microwave pythons
  • [11:17:40] * dm8tbr was waiting for _that_ comment
  • [11:17:54] * dm8tbr giggles like a school girl
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  • [11:38:31] <dup> i'm searching a Bluetooth USB Dongle for BeagleBone Black
  • [11:39:06] <dm8tbr> any usb bt dongle that works with linux should work with the BBB
  • [11:40:30] <dup> ok thanks
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  • [12:25:27] <Spirilis> av500: lulz you got the Sakura?
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  • [12:25:59] <Spirilis> av500: that thing does sound like a joke. I got the RX62N RDK for free and a couple YRPBRX210's that will probably end up useless b/c that revision chip is deprecated and tbh the whole RX200-series seems pointless at this point anyway
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  • [12:26:35] <Spirilis> guess the deprecated chip revision isn't an issue, code will work on others, but the RX200 is straddling a pointless overlap now in the market imo
  • [12:30:23] <av500> Spirilis: sakura is rx6, no?
  • [12:30:28] <Spirilis> yeah rx63n
  • [12:30:34] <av500> well
  • [12:30:35] <Spirilis> nicer version of the rx62n I have in the RDK
  • [12:30:40] <av500> I got it for free
  • [12:30:40] <Spirilis> it's the only RX worth looking at imo
  • [12:30:44] <av500> filled out some web form
  • [12:30:47] <av500> waited
  • [12:30:47] <Spirilis> ah yeah can't complain about that :)
  • [12:30:51] <av500> loled
  • [12:31:23] <av500> register to get gcc
  • [12:31:52] <Spirilis> I ended up getting a toolchain going on my macbook pro with gcc and DJ Delorie's flasher tool
  • [12:32:09] <Spirilis> the funny thing about that is it's just vanilla gcc, Renesas had the arch ported to upstream GCC a while back
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  • [12:33:03] <Spirilis> the difference is the windows version has proprietary binaries to integrate it with Renesas' HEW and e2studio IDE project generators but none of that is open source at all
  • [12:33:05] <vaizki> any suggestions how I should measure the average current draw of a BBB running off +5V or a single cell lipo?
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  • [12:33:19] <av500> with a current meter
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  • [12:33:28] <vaizki> just put in a shunt resistor and measure the voltage drop with a scope?
  • [12:33:40] <av500> that is a current meter
  • [12:34:02] <vaizki> yea I'm not sure how well my multimeters would handle the constantly changing current draw
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  • [12:35:47] <vaizki> hmmh hmmh do I need a better multimeter with data logging ;)
  • [12:38:32] <LetoThe2nd> shunt + scope, or a truerms capable meter :)
  • [12:38:55] <LetoThe2nd> note that probably onle the first option will show you spikes that you will need to buffer
  • [12:40:43] <vaizki> yea I'm just wondering how long the time period is that a truerms meter will integrate over
  • [12:40:56] <LetoThe2nd> ask the meters specs
  • [12:41:53] <vaizki> reading them now.. I got a pretty new agilent meter in a junk swap, haven't really used it but the specs are vague at best
  • [12:43:45] <vaizki> and yea I hardly know anything about how truerms measuring even works
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  • [12:48:25] <vaizki> guess how much luck I'm having in finding something when I don't know what I'm looking for :)
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  • [12:54:40] <vaizki> ok I'm just going to scope it then and estimate the surface area.. I can't understand how DMMs work
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  • [13:15:29] <SpeedEvil> vaizki: read the datasheet of the meter
  • [13:16:11] <av500> I doubt the RMS interval will help much
  • [13:16:26] <av500> its for periodic signals, not spiky bursts
  • [13:16:45] <av500> if you really want to measure power you need to sample and record all the time
  • [13:16:47] <av500> and integrate
  • [13:17:06] <av500> but I would just look at the current meter
  • [13:18:32] <SpeedEvil> The easy solution is to take a small value resistor, and place in parallel with it a large resistor, and capacitor.
  • [13:18:53] <SpeedEvil> You arrange the R and C to have a time-constant of (say) 30s, and then simply measure across the cap.
  • [13:19:12] <SpeedEvil> Job done.
  • [13:19:27] <av500> or measure the temparature of the shunt :)
  • [13:19:37] <av500> -a+e
  • [13:19:37] <SpeedEvil> :)
  • [13:19:49] <LetoThe2nd> av500: ++
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  • [13:24:39] <KotH> vaizki: what for do you need such accurate numbers anyways?
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  • [13:25:15] <SpeedEvil> KotH: To be fair - in some cases, the answer if you don't ask this question can be wildly inaccurate.
  • [13:25:46] <SpeedEvil> I have one AC power meter that will over-read on some loads by 500%.
  • [13:25:52] <SpeedEvil> Its specified accuracy is 1%.
  • [13:26:53] <KotH> probably 1% for sine, with litte to very low reactance, while you apply non-sine with high reactance?
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  • [13:29:14] <SpeedEvil> Sort-of.
  • [13:29:19] <SpeedEvil> It's fine with any reactances.
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  • [13:29:45] <SpeedEvil> the problem was this was a PC power-supply that was an early one after teh rules to take care of harmonic injection into the mains came about.
  • [13:30:00] <KotH> oh.. very spiky!
  • [13:30:07] <KotH> like the hair of an anime character :)
  • [13:30:20] <KotH> and probably the blue colour too!
  • [13:30:31] <SpeedEvil> The PSU took the approach of instead of using normal diodes, which would have a bad power factor - to turn on a little before with a _very_ sharp-edged current pulse.
  • [13:30:45] <SpeedEvil> So most of the harmonics hit at over the regulated limit.
  • [13:30:56] <KotH> oh...shit...
  • [13:31:09] <KotH> wouldnt have passed the EMC regulations here in europe
  • [13:31:25] <SpeedEvil> And hence - with the ADC running at perhaps 1000hz, it aliased.
  • [13:31:27] <SpeedEvil> It did.
  • [13:31:28] <KotH> especially not after the introduction of CE, probably not even here
  • [13:31:33] <SpeedEvil> It wasn't _that_ sharp.
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  • [13:32:11] <KotH> now, that's surprising...
  • [13:32:14] <SpeedEvil> It was cunningly aimed at the harmonic and power factor regulations, keeping it technically legal and cheap, and though breaking the spirit of the regs - not quite breaking the letter.
  • [13:32:27] <KotH> lol
  • [13:32:37] <KotH> likes as everyone does ;)
  • [13:32:48] <SpeedEvil> Quite.
  • [13:33:53] * georgem hates getting stuff CE tested
  • [13:34:33] <av500> DIN EN 61000-3-3
  • [13:34:37] <av500> is also a nice one
  • [13:34:46] <av500> the "flicker" norm
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  • [13:37:40] <georgem> Getting wide range power supplies to pass CE is a mofo. We had a universal supply that did 48-125DC and 110 to 250 AC not sure if they ever got it to pass CE or if they just started selling the non universal supplies only.
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  • [14:06:44] <KotH> av500: have you read it? :)
  • [14:06:56] <av500> no
  • [14:07:06] <av500> but I know somebody that had to wrestle with it
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  • [14:09:26] <KotH> poor boy!
  • [14:09:30] <KotH> or girl
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  • [14:15:39] <mranostay> morning!!
  • [14:15:52] * mranostay harlem shakes in
  • [14:16:56] <KotH> a wonderfull, JIHAD shake, mranostay
  • [14:17:26] <kfoltman> chocolate-flavoured JIHAD milkshake?
  • [14:18:05] <mranostay> KotH: that isn't a shake it is an explosion
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  • [14:22:47] <KotH> mranostay: a world shaking explosion :)
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  • [14:25:41] <Spirilis> dm8tbr: yeah that board I designed was a short pipe dream thought I had shortly after I got my BBB, then one lazy afternoon decided to sit down and make it happen. went through 2 iterations of the design and now I like this one (testing 20 of them, seemed flawless so I guess I got the PTH spacing & offset working well enough)
  • [14:26:33] <dm8tbr> :)
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  • [14:33:08] <kfoltman> a world shaking explosion of chocolate
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  • [14:45:39] <av500> gee
  • [14:45:49] <av500> now they got hold of snowdens public irc logs
  • [14:46:57] <Spirilis> yeah arstechnica folks came forward with them I guess
  • [14:47:08] <av500> yep
  • [14:47:57] <av500> I lol at the though that somebody goes thorugh my irc logs when I leaks something big :)
  • [14:48:05] <av500> there, I said it
  • [14:48:16] <av500> time capsule planted
  • [14:48:40] <av500> BeagleBot: got that?
  • [14:49:25] <das> this whole story is such a joke -_-
  • [14:51:00] <carslan> I actually went on arstechnica to see what2s happening atm
  • [14:51:07] <carslan> nothing much , I can say
  • [14:52:02] <av500> maybe he has no wifi in moscow
  • [14:53:01] <kfoltman> Moscow, though? Russia, who kills journalists?
  • [14:53:22] <av500> not in russia
  • [14:53:25] <av500> in transit
  • [14:53:32] <av500> no mans land
  • [14:53:37] <av500> limbo
  • [14:53:46] <kfoltman> Not that the Western powers have much better track record... :(
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  • [15:32:34] <Fe7ix> Hey, can someone help me out with a question about installing open JDK one the beagle bone black? I did it successfully via opkg. But I am looking for something like a binary package, so I can run the exact same Open JDK version on my RaspberryPi. I need that to do some Java Benchmarks with the BBB and the RPi.
  • [15:32:59] <jkridner|work> you'd need to run the same distro to use the same binary package.
  • [15:33:14] <jkridner|work> R-Pi doesn't run Ubuntu, so you'd need a different distro than that.
  • [15:33:31] <jkridner|work> I believe Angstrom has a build for R-Pi.
  • [15:33:45] <jkridner|work> (though perhaps not published images)
  • [15:35:22] <Fe7ix> I found Arch Linux and that works on both the RPi and BBB. There I successfully used the same Oracle JDK7. But couldn't find a good source for OpenJDK7
  • [15:38:33] <Fe7ix> This package "Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment for Embedded (build 1.7.0-b147, headless)" I ran at different distros on both boards. Why does open JDK usually wants to be installed by the package manager like yum, apt-get or opkg? I always ended up with different versions on my boards, so it's hard to compare.
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  • [15:43:13] <mranostay> jkridner|work: javascript man lives!
  • [15:43:23] <jkridner|work> :)
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  • [15:46:41] <Fe7ix_> did I time out?
  • [15:47:05] <Fe7ix_> The textfield was gone
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  • [15:47:28] <Fe7ix_> strange :)
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  • [15:53:01] <vaizki_> plaah the arch distro for BBB has worked beautifully so far but the "dtc" that ships with it can't compile the DTS file I need for 1wire
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  • [15:53:28] <vaizki_> Fe7ix_, your other connection is still online
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  • [15:54:04] <Fe7ix_> So I got the same distro (Arch Linux) on my boards and I can rund the oracle Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment for Embedded (build 1.7.0-b147, headless) directly from the bin/java. I tried really hard to find a similar package for openJDK as well. This: http://bradsmc.blogspot.com/2013/05/installing-openjdk-6-on-beaglebone-black.html was the best source I found. But I couldn't do the same thing on my Raspberry.
  • [15:54:33] <vaizki_> I would never taint my embedded linux boards with Java but choose your poison
  • [15:54:45] <jkridner|work> Fe7ix_: those instructions are a hack on Angstrom, not for Arch
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  • [15:55:17] <Fe7ix_> How can I install the exact same open JDK on both systems. With oracles Java binary it was so easy to run in on different distro and worked on BBB and RPi fine.
  • [15:55:29] <vaizki_> so does anyone want to compile the .dts for me into a binary blob or do I need to get ??ngstr??m back on the board? :)
  • [15:55:43] <jkridner|work> Oracle != OpenJDK
  • [15:56:01] <jkridner|work> so, ArchLinux doesn't work well on the Pi for you?
  • [15:56:15] <jkridner|work> I think running ArchLinux on both sounds like the most practical solution for you.
  • [15:56:17] <Fe7ix_> I closed the other IRC connection, because the text field to write was gun.
  • [15:56:19] <Fe7ix_> gone
  • [15:56:45] <jkridner|work> If you are in the browser interface, you can usually just click around for it if it disappears.
  • [15:56:46] <vaizki_> why not use a real IRC client
  • [15:57:05] <vaizki_> so much more usable
  • [15:57:11] <das> picture that: sometimes it's blocked at work oO
  • [15:57:22] <oe_> how do I use digitalRead if I want to insert the value (1 or 0) to a var in my cloud9 code?
  • [15:57:27] <jkridner|work> vaizki_: always a good options, but I don't want to put up barriers to participation.
  • [15:57:35] <vaizki_> are you in slavery or indebted servitude? change jobs
  • [15:57:50] <Fe7ix_> It's not the best distro for the Pi. Debian and Fedora worked a bit faster. Open JDK was 4 times slower as oracle as expected.
  • [15:58:02] <jkridner|work> oe_: var x = digitalRead('P8_13');
  • [15:58:15] <das> apart from the part where IRC is blocked and they use SVn (yulk) I'm quite happy here :)
  • [15:58:42] <jkridner|work> Fe7ix_: if you like Oracle's Java, why not use it?
  • [15:58:43] <das> admittedly they don't use git because old ppl don't get it :D
  • [15:58:53] <vaizki_> ok so any helpful soul here want to save me the trouble of reinstalling ??ngstr??m on the BBB or a uSD and compile the DTS from this page for me?
  • [15:58:54] <vaizki_> http://hipstercircuits.com/dallas-one-wire-temperature-reading-on-beaglebone-black-with-dto/
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  • [15:59:01] <jkridner|work> Fe7ix_: I use it often... when I use Java, which I really don't like doing.
  • [15:59:11] <oe_> tried that... it say the value is "undefined" although I it's 1
  • [15:59:36] <jkridner|work> did you do pinMode('P8_13', b.INPUT) first?
  • [15:59:42] <vaizki_> you will be helping me replace a RPi HVAC monitor with a BBB one
  • [16:00:22] <oe_> yep.. I just copied the code from the bonescript site
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  • [16:00:50] <Fe7ix_> I just want to run the latest open JDK on my boards, because I am interested if it is now faster with the hot spot.
  • [16:00:57] <jkridner|work> vaizki_: where would I paste the binary?
  • [16:01:23] <vaizki_> email it to me at vaizki@vaizki.fi? :D
  • [16:01:27] <mranostay> troolololololololololol
  • [16:01:31] <vaizki_> it's a couple of hundred bytes
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  • [16:03:13] <jkridner|work> vaizki_: done.... but, you did just paste your e-mail into a logged channel. :-/
  • [16:04:06] <vaizki_> thanks! and yes. but I get so much spam anyway I can't see a bit more hurting :)
  • [16:04:50] <vaizki_> got it. excellent.
  • [16:05:03] <Rickta59> jkridner|work: do you have a roadmap for the future of bonescript?
  • [16:05:17] <_av500_> the future is wide open
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  • [16:05:33] <oe_> ???
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  • [16:05:59] <jkridner|work> Rickta59: that'd probably help me get focused... I'll make one at http://beagleboard.org/Support/BoneScript/roadmap
  • [16:06:12] <jkridner|work> 0.2.3 is WIP... main new feature is serial (UART) support...
  • [16:06:18] <jkridner|work> that is already in testing.
  • [16:06:34] <Rickta59> are you the only one working on it?
  • [16:06:44] <jkridner|work> I've been working on cleaning up all the cruft I made in the tutorial pages.
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  • [16:07:09] <jkridner|work> Rickta59: I have a couple of people just starting to help me, plus I get occasional patches from the community.
  • [16:07:38] <Rickta59> i wouldn't mind contributing, i just don't want to work on something someone else is already doing
  • [16:08:16] <vaizki_> jk, seems to load
  • [16:08:32] <vaizki_> now I need to get the 1wire sensors hooked up
  • [16:09:11] <das> that has b
  • [16:09:18] <das> to be easy, right ?
  • [16:09:58] <oe_> jkridner|work: TNX, working
  • [16:12:01] <jkridner|work> Rickta59: understood... I'll get the roadmap up.
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  • [16:12:37] * jkridner|work wonders if it should be in the README.md, but naw.
  • [16:12:54] <vaizki_> das, yes it's easy. I have to watch a baby taking a bath at the same time which makes it compilcated
  • [16:15:07] <Russ> prpplague, you wanted to sync up?
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  • [16:15:37] <Spirilis> jkridner|work: hmm so the P8/P9_pin# convention, is that an emerging standard you guys are sticking to? might as well change the silkscreen notes on my launchpad cape for that :)
  • [16:18:05] <jkridner|work> Spirilis: I'm sticking to a convention that I can see on the silkscreen of the board, even if the print is small.
  • [16:18:20] <jkridner|work> I would have loved to have seen better silkscreen art, but the space is very limited.
  • [16:18:27] <Spirilis> yeah
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  • [16:24:28] <prpplague> Russ: sorry meetings until 1
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  • [16:24:59] <fedlap> hi, does anybody know, how to properly set up i^2c addresses with dip switch (sw1) on beaglebone capes?
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  • [16:25:45] <fedlap> or where i might find a documentation? :)
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  • [16:30:12] <jkridner|work> fedlap: just make sure every board has a different switch setting so the EEPROMs can be read. You should examine the documentation of each board to make sure they are compatible with each other (and won't fry each other or the Bone).
  • [16:30:41] <jkridner|work> fedlap: each board should have documentation. we've tried to get people to upload information to http://beaglebonecapes.com
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  • [16:33:55] <fedlap> jkridner, y, i've checked these documentations already, but except of what the switches switches according to the schematics, there's nothing else of description, what physical address the switch position actually corresponds
  • [16:34:48] <vaizki_> 28.437 degrees says the DS18B20
  • [16:35:03] <vaizki_> it works it works it just works
  • [16:35:16] <vaizki_> and yes it's HOT in this room right now
  • [16:35:19] <jkridner|work> fedlap: I don't know the polarity of any of the switches, etc., but the 4 valid addresses are 0x54, 0x55, 0x56 and 0x57.
  • [16:35:44] <jkridner|work> the only requirement is that each board connected be at a different address... it doesn't matter which address...
  • [16:36:00] <ds2> HOT? and it works?
  • [16:36:08] <ds2> 28.437 degrees is below freezing!
  • [16:36:12] <jkridner|work> conceptually, it is possible for one to be configured before another, but if you have conflicts between the boards, you have other problems you need to look at more closely.
  • [16:36:35] <vaizki_> 28.437 was never below freezing here
  • [16:37:03] <ds2> u must have a lot of salt :D
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  • [16:37:22] <ds2> wonder what you would have to have in the salt to depress it by 3.6deg
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  • [16:37:41] <vaizki_> no salt, just vodka
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  • [16:40:01] <fedlap> k, the reason i ask is because i got problems with an rs232 cape and lcd7 cape. do u know any issues?
  • [16:47:02] <vaizki_> now that I have a "virtual cape" DTO fragment in /lib/firmware, what's the right way to enable it at boot?
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  • [16:47:24] <vaizki_> just do a systemd service that echos to the slots?
  • [16:47:50] <panto> vaizki_, capemgr.enable_partno=FOO
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  • [16:48:48] <vaizki_> iin sysctl.conf I presume
  • [16:50:22] <panto> vaizki_, no, in the kernel command line you pass
  • [16:50:29] <vaizki_> oh ok
  • [16:50:32] <vaizki_> thanks
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  • [17:05:45] <fedlap> does anyone know which uart of the rs232 cape (1,2,4,5) corresponds to which ttyO?
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  • [17:06:47] <panto> fedlap, the actual ttyOx number depends on load order
  • [17:07:11] <panto> ttyO0 is the console, so the first UART device created will be ttyO1
  • [17:08:23] <fedlap> by default rs232 comes set up with jumpers placed on uart2 which i can access by using tty02. what if i want to change the jumpers to uart4?
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  • [17:16:01] <tholm> hi there, I've tried to compile the kernel v3.9.7 using gcc 4.7.4, and this is causing random segfaults issues
  • [17:16:26] <jkridner|work> Rickta59: http://beagleboard.org/support/BoneScript/roadmap/
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  • [17:22:27] <Rickta59> thanks jkridner|work
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  • [17:24:34] <Spirilis> I wonder if jkridner logs into irc from his phone or tablet or something
  • [17:24:41] <Spirilis> always seems to be bouncing on/offline
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  • [17:33:05] <`26> What is the mainlining status of the beagleboard black? Would a kernel built from [ http://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/linux ] and a u-boot from [ http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/u-boot ] be able to boot up and use, say, the network and serial interfaces? I find [ http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/TI/BeagleBone ] but it seems to be quite outdated.
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  • [17:33:19] <`26> *found
  • [17:33:40] <koen> has debian moved off the 2.4 kernel yet?
  • [17:34:03] <koen> and wtf is going on with asking about "mainline" and then pointing to disto kernels
  • [17:35:25] <`26> koen: oh sorry, I'll rephrase; what is the old-enough-to-be-in-debian status of the beagleboard black?
  • [17:36:42] <Spirilis> `26: my understanding is a lot of the TI Sitara-specific kernel patches are not upstream yet. Here's a wiki page that has instructions for rolling the kernel and u-boot/etc. to get Debian or Ubuntu running: http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black
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  • [17:37:03] <Spirilis> `26: I don't think those instructions get your install written to the onboard eMMC though, so you have to boot from uSD card.
  • [17:37:07] <sujeet_> hi folks
  • [17:37:10] <sujeet_> need help
  • [17:37:36] <sujeet_> just bought a beagle board and tyring to run a sampl UART application
  • [17:38:31] <sujeet_> the UARTEcho application that comes along with the package has function call that are implemented in system.lib and I dont see the sourec code for this library in th epackage!
  • [17:38:49] <sujeet_> is there a place Ican look for it
  • [17:38:50] <`26> Spirilis: hm, right, thanks.
  • [17:45:04] <vaizki_> arch supports BBB at least nicely, kudos to those guys.. had zero problems so far besides the dtc there not being up to latest version
  • [17:46:39] <vaizki_> with basic arch install I have 975M free on the eMMC and 46MB RAM used after boot
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  • [17:49:25] <bbbuser> hi
  • [17:49:53] <bbbuser> Did bluez4.101 support MAP(message access profile ) ?
  • [17:50:02] <bbbuser> It's based on OBEX
  • [17:50:58] <bbbuser> i try to use bluez 4.101 .
  • [17:50:59] <bbbuser> because i found the configuration method was changed in bluez5.6, It confused me.
  • [17:51:32] <bbbuser> And it looks like that there still are many bugs to fix in bluez5.6
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  • [17:51:48] <bbbuser> It updated everyday...
  • [17:51:56] <bbbuser> And the API changed everyday
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  • [18:13:57] <rOxx> hi
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  • [18:19:11] <`26> what is the minimal dtc version required?
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  • [18:26:14] <cyronin_> I have notced commenting out any mention of HDMI in am335x-bone-common.dtsi in arch/arm/boot/dts seems to successfully disable hdmi, but is there a more graceful way of doing this?
  • [18:27:37] <cyronin_> i tried writing bootargs=capemgr.disable_partno=Bone-Black-HDMI into uEnv.txt and that didn't seem to work
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  • [18:33:30] <Spirilis> cyronin_: try optargs=capemgr.disable_partno=BB-BONELT-HDMI,BB-BONELT-HDMIN
  • [18:33:45] <Spirilis> found that in my irc backlog from someone (m_billybob) who got that working.
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  • [18:38:47] <uv> hi
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  • [18:40:00] <uv> anybody has interfaced beagle to GbE?
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  • [18:56:01] <stephan_> hi, i just installed arch onto my bbb. trying to install xorg now (xorg-server xorg-xinit video-omap) but startx is crashing with "no device detected - no screens found". whats missing?
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  • [19:09:20] <vaizki_> I so wish BBB could do 1600x1200 from HDMI...
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  • [19:10:00] <vaizki_> I have a bunch of surplus 20" 1600x1200 screens from work
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  • [19:17:32] <cyronin_> Spirilis: Thanks, that definitely worked
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  • [19:17:35] <dm8tbr> vaizki_: I don't remember the details, but it might but with odd frame rates
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  • [19:19:43] <vaizki_> well I don't really care about fps
  • [19:19:55] <vaizki_> as long as the display supports it ;)
  • [19:20:27] <m_billybob> you'd most likely have to drop bitrate
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  • [19:21:30] <m_billybob> bit depth*
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  • [19:24:32] <m_billybob> Spirilis, actually i got that from some guy on the google groups, lol, but ive seen it before. panto most likely told that guy, and me a while back
  • [19:24:34] <vaizki_> so the limiting factor is bus width from soc to TDA19988?
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  • [19:25:07] <Spirilis> vaizki_: I think memory bandwidth is a consideration too
  • [19:25:20] <panto> pixel clock
  • [19:25:33] <m_billybob> Spirilis, so i just noticed your bbb tindie thing
  • [19:25:34] <panto> I think there's plenty of memory bandwidth
  • [19:25:39] <Spirilis> ah k
  • [19:25:40] <m_billybob> well earlier this morning
  • [19:25:44] <Spirilis> m_billybob: yeah
  • [19:25:57] <vaizki_> well must be the clock then
  • [19:26:08] <m_billybob> Spirilis, pretty cool, have yo usold many yet ?
  • [19:26:14] <Spirilis> m_billybob: nope, none yet
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  • [19:26:39] <m_billybob> cheaper than adafruits stuff ( FTDI)
  • [19:27:23] <m_billybob> Spirilis looks cool though wish i lived within throwing distabnce id buy one
  • [19:27:34] <m_billybob> might nudge wulf in that direction anyhow lol
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  • [19:28:21] <Spirilis> m_billybob: also bluehash may have a few in the 43oh store soon too, sent him 4
  • [19:28:36] <vaizki_> I missed what Spirilis is selling?
  • [19:28:40] <m_billybob> but he'll sell them for more no doubt
  • [19:28:49] <m_billybob> how many on tindie Spirilis ?
  • [19:30:18] <Spirilis> 15 on tindie
  • [19:31:09] <Spirilis> vaizki_: https://www.tindie.com/products/spirilis/beaglebone-black-ftdi-friction-fit/
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  • [19:32:25] <m_billybob> when did you make those ? i dont recall you saying anything about them any hwere
  • [19:33:09] <m_billybob> lol watching DS9 *somerandom guy* how far thsoe spots go ?" Dax "all the way down"
  • [19:33:20] <vaizki_> ah.. nice. normally shipping to Finland just blows from US sites so I have to order from UK or Asia
  • [19:33:28] <m_billybob> trill humor
  • [19:33:54] <Spirilis> m_billybob: haha, I vaguely remember that line too
  • [19:34:06] <Spirilis> m_billybob: last week I think, didn't make a thread yet b/c I was lazy
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  • [19:34:17] <Spirilis> m_billybob: the reflow skillet totally rocked hardcore with this project btw
  • [19:34:35] <m_billybob> yeah ?
  • [19:34:36] <Spirilis> I think I knocked them all out in 1 run
  • [19:34:37] <vaizki_> I don't have a USB-TTLserial cable at all actually.. though I remember ordering one last week
  • [19:34:59] <m_billybob> Spirilis, updated code ? I glanced at your PID stuff, stil dotn quite get it
  • [19:35:00] <Spirilis> or 2 runs actually, I forgot the paste on the USB shield tabs the first time
  • [19:35:11] <Spirilis> m_billybob: that code is what's running
  • [19:35:19] <m_billybob> nice
  • [19:35:37] <m_billybob> I guess i need to read that article again
  • [19:35:50] <Spirilis> I just used the PID examples from what one blog site you mentioned a while back, and worked it into my Timer_A based triac duty cycler
  • [19:35:57] <Spirilis> *that
  • [19:36:14] <Spirilis> redid things here and there to make sense in the context of how my app was working
  • [19:36:21] <m_billybob> So im curious how that would differ from my faux PWM done with WDT
  • [19:36:52] <Spirilis> not sure, probably not a whole lot. I just used timer_A since it's already set up for fine grained duty cycle work like that
  • [19:37:16] <Spirilis> and can generate interrupts at the right moment without much code
  • [19:37:30] <m_billybob> Well i only did 32 counts because its a power of two
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  • [19:38:28] <m_billybob> just pidling around I found that higher resolution didnt make much differnce but f course I couldnt do 64 counts . . . Line freq couldnt handle it
  • [19:38:37] <Spirilis> yeah
  • [19:38:43] <Spirilis> I dunno what difference it really makes
  • [19:38:49] <Spirilis> it probably doesn't make a whole lot of diff
  • [19:38:52] <Spirilis> but it felt good writing it :)
  • [19:38:53] <Spirilis> haha
  • [19:39:00] <m_billybob> did you make a vid ? lol id watch it !
  • [19:39:02] <Spirilis> nah
  • [19:39:06] <Spirilis> I don't have a setup for video
  • [19:39:11] <m_billybob> :(
  • [19:39:57] <m_billybob> smaller needles are workign good then i take it
  • [19:39:58] <Spirilis> it does do some PWM here and there especially when landing at a new temperature, I bet it would work just as well without that sub-2.1 second granularity though.
  • [19:40:07] <Spirilis> oh yeah, I like 'em. 20 and 22ga ftw
  • [19:40:47] <Spirilis> 22ga actually gives me a bead that, while it looks like it'll bridge and probably does before reflow starts, actually meters enough that I didn't have a single bridged pin on the USB connectors for any of them.
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  • [19:41:05] <Spirilis> just enough to connect but little enough that it all gets sopped up onto the metal pins during reflow
  • [19:41:27] <m_billybob> I was watching an arduino oven controller video on yourtube while back. Assuming the tracking I saw was legit, the guys algo kept the heat curve in check the whole way
  • [19:41:50] <Spirilis> yeah ... was that PID based?
  • [19:41:53] <m_billybob> WIth my current code, im getting "bounce"
  • [19:41:57] <panto> Spirilis, +1
  • [19:42:19] <m_billybob> i think it may have been the guy who wrote that guide, and the ardruino lib ( but am not sure )
  • [19:42:43] <m_billybob> Spirilis, so yeah i think so
  • [19:43:02] <Spirilis> ah right. I honestly haven't tried charting any of my runs, so I could be way off, might get around to that soon :-)
  • [19:43:47] <m_billybob> eentually i want to do a Windows C# graphing app but we need betterheat containment
  • [19:44:27] <Spirilis> I think my biggest challenge, well besides heat spreading (not terribly worried about that since I've found the hot spots in my skillet) is a reliable anchor for the thermocouple that won't adversely affect its measurement.
  • [19:44:31] <m_billybob> might try and shift the control off onto a PC
  • [19:44:46] <Spirilis> currently I have to hold the tip against the skillet surface but it's hot and as it warms up likes to skip/move around a bit
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  • [19:44:54] <Spirilis> softens up the thermocouple wires I guess
  • [19:44:58] <Spirilis> or insulation or something
  • [19:45:13] <m_billybob> yeah lol remember i was talkign abou that before ;)
  • [19:45:22] <Spirilis> I'm holding it from above the cover of course, with the thermocouple lead going through the skillet's steam hole
  • [19:45:31] <Spirilis> yeah
  • [19:45:36] <m_billybob> need like a bracket "heatsinked" to something
  • [19:45:58] <m_billybob> idk though i need to experiement
  • [19:46:54] <pru_evtout_2> panto?
  • [19:47:04] <panto> pru_evtout_2, yes?
  • [19:47:24] <pru_evtout_2> i asked a question last night about muxing a socket on the fly.
  • [19:47:34] <pru_evtout_2> and you mentioned that's the point of device tree.
  • [19:47:40] <m_billybob> So, with thermal tracking. My code as is with our oven "bounces" and it is not the oven so much as the temperatures making wild swings up and down
  • [19:47:41] <pru_evtout_2> i reread the doc to make sure i didn't miss anything
  • [19:47:55] <panto> you'll have to refresh my memory
  • [19:47:57] <pru_evtout_2> but i don't see how i can, dynamically, set pin configurations without generating and recompiling overlays, on the fly.
  • [19:48:03] <panto> it's full of eels^Wholes
  • [19:48:03] <m_billybob> err not the code so much as the wild swings in temps*
  • [19:48:03] <pru_evtout_2> basically, i have a socket
  • [19:48:36] <pru_evtout_2> the user can put stuffs in the socket at any time.
  • [19:48:49] <pru_evtout_2> they push a button, i power down the socket, highz all the pins, and power it back up.
  • [19:49:07] <m_billybob> what ya working on now pru_evtout_2 ?
  • [19:49:18] <pru_evtout_2> but, i don't really know what's in the socket. they have that defined elsewhere.
  • [19:49:34] <Spirilis> m_billybob: hmm, wonder if that's related to the convection feature. does your setup have the fan yet? or no?
  • [19:49:41] <panto> you must know something about the hardware that's connected?
  • [19:50:14] <pru_evtout_2> only that all the pins are limited to gpio and i2c.
  • [19:50:22] <pru_evtout_2> so, that's not too much of a problem.
  • [19:50:24] <m_billybob> Spirilis yeah i run the fan the whole time, shut it off via the user manually via a pus hbutton
  • [19:50:40] <panto> ok, so who comes up with the pinmuxing?
  • [19:50:42] <pru_evtout_2> but, they have to be able to control the pull up/down/enable.
  • [19:50:57] <pru_evtout_2> the muxing is basically fixed to gpio and i2c.
  • [19:51:01] <pru_evtout_2> err...functional muxing.
  • [19:51:15] <pru_evtout_2> but the other mux settings, like pull/highz, they define.
  • [19:51:26] <pru_evtout_2> and need to be able to control in real time.
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  • [19:51:40] <panto> pinctrl allows arbitrary set of pinmux states
  • [19:51:46] <pru_evtout_2> err...not "real time".
  • [19:51:47] <panto> have you seen pinctrl helper?
  • [19:51:48] <Spirilis> m_billybob: hmm, with that setup I wonder if PID would work better for you.
  • [19:52:00] <Tartarus> vvu, ping over here :)
  • [19:52:17] <pru_evtout_2> panto, not really. last i saw it was under development.
  • [19:52:21] <vvu> Tartarus: okok
  • [19:52:24] <Spirilis> m_billybob: my understanding is PID tries to dial out those kinds of issues with its historical tracking algorithm and the proportions assigned to the different pieces via the P,I,D coefficients
  • [19:52:31] <m_billybob> Spirilis essentially I already am, or at least thats the feeling I have( need to read and understadn that article better )
  • [19:52:32] <pru_evtout_2> ...it's been a while since i looked.
  • [19:52:41] <vvu> Tartarus: i am more intrested in finding the usb_tx function to just dump on my screen raw data
  • [19:52:46] <Spirilis> ah
  • [19:52:49] <m_billybob> Spirilis, i think its more of a heat los issue
  • [19:52:58] <m_billybob> but im not 100% sure
  • [19:52:59] <vvu> because rndis is high-level right now. need to go a bit lower level there is where the bug happens
  • [19:53:02] <Tartarus> vvu, I think you need to talk with Tom King again a bit. I really would recommend doing some debug with standard linux <--> android right now
  • [19:53:11] <Spirilis> m_billybob: probably is, but with a fan going I wouldn't expect it to be too bouncy, it should lose heat at a predictable rate
  • [19:53:17] <pru_evtout_2> panto, oh, this is the one mentioned in the doc?
  • [19:53:31] <Spirilis> m_billybob: anyway hard for me to say since I haven't tried your setup :)
  • [19:53:46] <pru_evtout_2> what's described in the doc, i would have to define all the possible states for all the pins of the socket.
  • [19:53:49] <Tartarus> With that setup you can just use tcpdump, or rather um, why can't I recall the name
  • [19:53:55] <vaizki_> ngrep?
  • [19:53:56] <vvu> usbmon
  • [19:53:57] <m_billybob> Spirilis, also within leaded temp ranges, its not much of an issue its only when getting up to leadfree profiles ( 240C ) where I have issues
  • [19:53:57] <vvu> ?
  • [19:54:07] <Spirilis> m_billybob: ahh, aye.
  • [19:54:08] <pru_evtout_2> or at least, that's what it seems.
  • [19:54:28] <Tartarus> vvu, No, I was thinking wireshark
  • [19:54:40] <vvu> tcpdump then that pcap in wireshark, yes
  • [19:55:01] <m_billybob> Spirilis, I wish wulf would have listened to me and bought an IR oven
  • [19:55:01] <Tartarus> Well, wireshark can capture all the different levels of this
  • [19:55:06] <vaizki_> wireshark can also remote capture which is nice
  • [19:55:27] <Tartarus> vaizki_, that'll be a little hard for usb-usb :)
  • [19:55:55] <vvu> yeah but at least did something today, after couple of good days of searching into darkness got something to work
  • [19:56:00] <pru_evtout_2> that would work, but seems pretty crazy. i would have to do something like pin*_pulldisable, pin*_pulldown, pin*_pullup for all pins.
  • [19:56:00] <m_billybob> We've already gutted the convection oven so its no longer an option to return it lol
  • [19:56:17] <pru_evtout_2> i suppose that's ok.
  • [19:56:22] <vaizki_> just return it and say it was possessed by demons
  • [19:56:59] <Spirilis> m_billybob: what's the shell of the convection oven like? black paint or shiny aluminum?
  • [19:57:12] <m_billybob> just the cover
  • [19:57:22] <m_billybob> 1/16
  • [19:57:37] <m_billybob> 1/16" steel / metal
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  • [19:57:57] <Spirilis> ah k, try wrapping all the wrappable parts in aluminum foil? (minus the door)
  • [19:58:05] <panto> pru_evtout_2, sorry was afk
  • [19:58:16] <Spirilis> trying not to touch the foil to the table or whatever, just providing a radiant barrier
  • [19:58:37] <m_billybob> Spirilis wulf says wrapping it with normal glass insulation would probably be the best
  • [19:58:50] <m_billybob> i dotn really know
  • [19:58:57] <Spirilis> yeah that'd work too. aluminum foil's a good cheap mod
  • [19:59:05] <m_billybob> i mentioned aluminum foil to him before and he just laughed
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  • [19:59:17] <Spirilis> haha
  • [19:59:18] <Spirilis> well then.
  • [19:59:35] <m_billybob> plus the electrical contacts of the elements, and the electronics are all over on the sides
  • [19:59:42] <pru_evtout_2> panto: i wrote a few lines above. is that what i'll have to do? write all the states for all pins?
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  • [20:00:07] <panto> define the pinmux states for each pin/set of pins
  • [20:00:09] <CiSeR> hi
  • [20:00:32] <panto> you'll have to create a pinmux helper device for each pin/set of pins
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  • [20:01:02] <panto> but then you can switch muxing easily by cating the name of the state in the sysfs property
  • [20:01:09] <pru_evtout_2> hrmm, ok. sounds doable.
  • [20:01:21] <m_billybob> ah was just going ot ask that panto.
  • [20:01:42] <pru_evtout_2> although, i'm tempted to just write registers, since i'm only changing pulldown state's basically.
  • [20:01:49] <m_billybob> panto any idea of switching rate capabilities with sysfs ? between states
  • [20:02:09] <panto> define 'rate capabilities'
  • [20:02:21] <pru_evtout_2> m_billybob: gpio state setting through sysfs is a few hundred khz :-\
  • [20:02:21] <m_billybob> how fast can state be switched.
  • [20:02:24] <panto> pru_evtout_2, don't write registers
  • [20:02:53] <pru_evtout_2> i know..it's wrong. it's the bad lazy developer inside me that wants to.
  • [20:03:04] <m_billybob> panto just wondering abotu a rough estimate.
  • [20:03:07] <panto> if you need high speed gpio switching doing it from user-space is just a bad idea
  • [20:03:14] <m_billybob> ah ok
  • [20:03:17] <pru_evtout_2> 5MHz with mmap :P
  • [20:03:22] <pru_evtout_2> i wouldn't say that's too bad.
  • [20:03:34] <panto> I pull 100MHz on the PRU for max rate :)
  • [20:03:57] <m_billybob> 2 cycle switching eh
  • [20:04:07] <panto> but obviously you can't do much at that rate
  • [20:04:31] <panto> although there's a nice shifting feature that helps if you're doing shifting in/out
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  • [20:05:19] <m_billybob> I was just curious, id need nothign that fast personally. Just now startign to grasp this sysfs concept
  • [20:05:24] <panto> the problem with doing it from user-space (or even kernel space for that matter) is that your jitter is going to be epic
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  • [20:05:57] <panto> linux != mcu
  • [20:06:03] <m_billybob> and i do need userspace, because im controllign stuff via a web app. probably custom web app ( no bonescript )
  • [20:06:04] <Spirilis> yeah and even with the PRU it's best to use one of its dedicated pins aye?
  • [20:06:04] <pru_evtout_2> lol. for sure.
  • [20:06:28] <mranostay> are we talking bitbanging again?
  • [20:06:29] <panto> the dedicated pins can switch at the pru clock of 200Mhz
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  • [20:06:40] <ofus> if the leds on the beaglebone black don't even power on at all using a known good power source, that means it is definately dead right?
  • [20:06:50] <panto> accessing the GPIO blocks incurs arbitration penalties
  • [20:06:55] <Spirilis> yeah
  • [20:06:56] <mranostay> ofus: likely
  • [20:07:06] <panto> it's dead jim
  • [20:07:13] <m_billybob> not necesarily ofus
  • [20:07:34] <m_billybob> if its never worked it could be the bbb doesnt like the power supply
  • [20:07:55] <m_billybob> or the power supply just isnt suitable
  • [20:08:29] <pru_evtout_2> ofus: what about with usb power?
  • [20:08:34] <panto> btw, if you guys think about needing something to switch GPIOs at a high speed you'd better provide what use case is that
  • [20:08:35] <pru_evtout_2> panto: thanks for the guidance. :)
  • [20:08:45] <m_billybob> Gerald has been saying that some ( all ? ) switchers arent a good option.
  • [20:08:45] <panto> SPI for instance is high speed gpio switching
  • [20:09:16] <panto> but there's a defined interface, and there are both hardware and gpio based spio device drivers
  • [20:09:29] <m_billybob> so SPI and I2C can be used similar to gpio via pinmux helper ?
  • [20:09:34] <panto> what are you doing that requires fast switching and are there common ground
  • [20:09:58] <panto> everything can
  • [20:10:07] <m_billybob> sorry if my terminology is incorrect im still leanring . ..
  • [20:10:08] <Spirilis> m_billybob: pinmux helper and then Linux's spidev interface, see Rick's WS2811 example where he wrote a C program to write to /dev/spidev0
  • [20:10:10] <m_billybob> nice.
  • [20:10:16] <panto> but you should have a good reason not to put the pinmux in the i2c/spi device node
  • [20:11:15] <m_billybob> panto, no idea, i need to find a good read on the usage of SPI / I2C from the sysfs aspect. not exactly sure what i need would work
  • [20:11:29] <ofus> it used to work fine with usb power and with the other one
  • [20:11:30] <m_billybob> ( that way )
  • [20:11:48] <m_billybob> ofus, have yo upressed S2 ( reset) ?
  • [20:11:54] <ofus> then i let it run for a day or so, unplugged it and took it somewhere else, now no workey
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  • [20:12:37] <ofus> m_billybob: yes, I tried mashing reset and boot and power and holding them in etc
  • [20:12:53] <m_billybob> so no leds come on at all eh ?
  • [20:12:59] <ofus> nope
  • [20:13:17] <ofus> I had just installed the android demo build :\
  • [20:13:19] <pru_evtout_2> does waving a dead herring over stuff still work, or is that just a 90's thing?
  • [20:13:23] <m_billybob> In your shoes id contact Gerald via the beagleboard google groups
  • [20:13:38] <ofus> ok thanks
  • [20:13:41] <m_billybob> or maybe call or email CC0
  • [20:14:06] <Stanto> ofus bbb dead ?
  • [20:14:38] <SpeedEvil> pru_evtout_2: These days, you wave a dead Steve Jobs over it.
  • [20:15:26] <m_billybob> Spirilis, sorry ... so spidev, and there is an i2c equiv i think, would be how I'd communicate with SPI / I2C devices then ?
  • [20:15:46] <Spirilis> m_billybob: no idea about i2c, I think there is though, and there are i2c* cli tools for playing with it.
  • [20:15:48] <panto> err, wait
  • [20:16:13] <panto> you can communicate with i2c or spi devices using a generic device interface
  • [20:16:25] <Spirilis> ah k that's what I figured
  • [20:16:38] <Spirilis> with ioctl()'s and stuff for adjusting params?
  • [20:16:44] <panto> but before you do it that way, try to see if there's a driver already for the spi/i2c device you're controlling
  • [20:17:14] <m_billybob> panto, i guess whats most confusing to me is why there are lots of I/O drivers in the kernel. i2c and spi specific devices. loadeable as modules.
  • [20:17:18] <panto> if there is, use the kernel driver interface and don't go banging at the device manually
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  • [20:17:36] <panto> m_billybob, yes, and that's the whole point of linux
  • [20:17:43] <panto> you don't have to start from scratch
  • [20:18:04] <ofus> Stanto: yes :(
  • [20:18:06] <m_billybob> but i2c / spi isnt a device, they're communication protocols though right ?
  • [20:18:33] <panto> PCI is a bus, but there are drivers for PCI devices too
  • [20:18:36] <m_billybob> idk seem i have more to learn
  • [20:19:08] <panto> would you expect to perform raw read/writes to get a PCI device to work?
  • [20:19:28] <panto> it is theoretically possible, but there are drivers to make the device easy to use
  • [20:19:28] <mastiff> not in 2013
  • [20:19:49] <bradfa> panto, /dev/mem ftw!
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  • [20:25:06] <m_billybob> panto, no, I wouldnt
  • [20:25:13] <m_billybob> I gues im lookignat it wrongly
  • [20:25:52] <m_billybob> I know that spi for instance, some manufacturers use variations of proto's
  • [20:26:23] <m_billybob> anyhow ill have to do more reading. I have linux device drivers 3rd edition in dead tree format
  • [20:26:33] <m_billybob> have had it for a couple years never got aroudn to reading it though
  • [20:26:54] <panto> unfortunately ldd3 is now horribly outdated
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  • [20:27:08] <panto> ldd should have regular 6 month updates
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  • [20:27:16] <panto> to be semi relevant
  • [20:27:20] <m_billybob> should still give me a rough idea though ?
  • [20:27:40] <panto> yes, certainly
  • [20:28:04] <bradfa> https://lwn.net/Articles/2.6-kernel-api/ <= and some updates are here till 2009
  • [20:29:48] <m_billybob> but for i2c and spi i only need to set mode / settings then just read and write. for GPIO mostly it'll be on and off, plus maybe some state checking
  • [20:30:05] <bradfa> m_billybob, would spidev work for you?
  • [20:30:27] * bradfa might be coming to this late
  • [20:30:33] <m_billybob> im assuming so but not 100% sure, and equiv for i2c too
  • [20:30:48] <m_billybob> im still newb to embedded linux so lots to learn still
  • [20:30:57] <georgem> I miss ldd3
  • [20:31:12] <bradfa> m_billybob, I thought there was an equiv i2c from userspace ability...
  • [20:31:15] <m_billybob> georgem then relive your past and download a copy for free ;)
  • [20:31:32] <m_billybob> bradfa from what ive seen just poking around there seems to be
  • [20:31:44] <m_billybob> poking around in /sys/class/
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  • [20:32:23] <georgem> m_billybob: i miss when I could rely on information in not being obsolete.
  • [20:32:31] <m_billybob> I may switch over to angstrom for a little while to clearify some stuff. as far as I can tell there is not /sys/kernel/debug path in debian
  • [20:32:47] <m_billybob> well there is but theres nothign in it
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  • [20:33:15] <m_billybob> im assuming its in a different path or just doesnt exist on debian
  • [20:33:17] <bradfa> m_billybob, /sys is a virtual file system the kernel provides
  • [20:33:43] <georgem> /sys/kernel/debug isn't always mounted
  • [20:33:53] <bradfa> georgem, put it in your fstab
  • [20:33:55] <m_billybob> i have PINCTRL debug compiled in statically ( i think )
  • [20:35:09] <cyronin_> ive been wondering, because im delving into driver development too, and ive been scraping at Documentation/* and code examples and stackoverflow google results, is there a relevant place to find a consolidated instruction on making modules?
  • [20:35:49] <cyronin_> as well as a few videos from greg kroah hartman
  • [20:35:50] <bradfa> cyronin_, ldd3 sort of was that resource and it will give you good background if you use it in tandem with the source
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  • [20:36:04] <georgem> cyronin_: I don't think so. I find the best thing to do is find the closest few drivers to what you're planning on doing an go through them and figure out how they work
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  • [20:37:24] <dnil> cyronin_, I think the training material at http://free-electrons.com/training/kernel/ is worth to have in mind as well
  • [20:37:37] <cyronin_> ive been looking at that and found so many things are different for such fundamental systems now that ldd3 is good abstract knowledge, but impossible to trust without seeing a stackoverflow or 3 year old forum post go through all the reasons why some function call is obsolete or nonexistent
  • [20:38:01] <cyronin_> ill look at that
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  • [20:38:18] <panto> a new ldd book would be helpful
  • [20:38:29] <panto> anyone know if he's writing a new one?
  • [20:38:58] <dnil> cyronin_, they have the courses as well, but the course material is free to download and read
  • [20:38:59] <georgem> no idea. writting technical documents isn't very fun so I doubt it.
  • [20:39:55] <cyronin_> i was kinda hoping kernelnewbies would host some kind of detailed tutorial code or something, or if they do i suck at finding stuff
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  • [20:41:06] <bradfa> ldd3 isn't that out of date if you just want to do simple things and don't mind googling a little bit or reading kernel source
  • [20:41:10] <m_billybob> panto. jkridner has a book, although i have no idea on how thuroughly it covers DT
  • [20:41:16] <m_billybob> not exactly a driver boo keither
  • [20:41:20] <georgem> cyronin_: it would almost need to be a continuous task. or some sections would be come out of date in weeks
  • [20:41:33] <bradfa> and if you don't mind doing things wrong (but good enough to make something work)
  • [20:42:12] <cyronin_> yeah, and it seems like Documentation/* is enough of a task for them to keep up to date as well
  • [20:42:23] <cyronin_> codingstyle is a good doc though
  • [20:42:44] <panto> cyronin_, Documentation is also horribly outdated
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  • [20:43:38] <m_billybob> wonderful
  • [20:43:43] * m_billybob has a new dog
  • [20:43:55] <georgem> seriously though I would take a brief look at what ever written info you can find but go look at examples of other drivers/modules of the same type and see how its done correctly
  • [20:44:03] <m_billybob> 11 month old rottie . . .
  • [20:44:35] <bradfa> m_billybob, so the lesson here is don't complain about kernel docs or else someone will give you a dog
  • [20:44:52] <m_billybob> lol im not complaining im just lost
  • [20:45:05] <georgem> m_billybob: what are you trying to do?
  • [20:45:12] <bradfa> georgem, feed a dog
  • [20:45:14] <m_billybob> trying to understand.
  • [20:45:17] <bradfa> with spi bus
  • [20:45:33] <cyronin_> yeah, thats the stage im at right now.
  • [20:46:02] <cyronin_> I'm mostly trying to figure out how the industrialio subsystem works
  • [20:46:05] <georgem> ok. what is the missing piece? is there an IC you want to interface with but no driver exists? Are you interfacing with a microcontroller?
  • [20:47:07] <m_billybob> georgem i have a project that uses *all* pins out. Its probably simple, but i just ned to wrap my brain around the idea of embedded linux is all
  • [20:47:33] <m_billybob> quite possibly everything i need driver wise is already provided for me
  • [20:47:48] <m_billybob> I just need to learn how to use it
  • [20:47:56] <cyronin_> there is an accelerometer i want to get interfaced, and im not 100% certain if an existing input driver actualy works with it
  • [20:48:09] <m_billybob> uart seems really simple and if thats an indication . . .then its going ot be easier than I originally thought
  • [20:48:23] <georgem> cyronin_: i2c? spi?
  • [20:48:32] <vaizki_> accelerometers are usually i2c or spi and you're golden with those
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  • [20:48:47] <cyronin_> I havent compared datasheets, protocol differences, register differences or anything, but its the i2c BMA180 accelerometer
  • [20:49:00] <cyronin_> and i was able to find BMA150
  • [20:49:44] <cyronin_> drivers/input/misc/bma150.c seems to be close to it
  • [20:49:48] <vaizki_> you don't need a driver for a specific MEMS device
  • [20:49:54] <vaizki_> just bang I2C at it
  • [20:49:59] <vaizki_> http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/11/04/beaglebone-coding-101-i2c/
  • [20:50:24] <KotH> cyronin_: i recently interfaced a bma250 (spi), it's really easy and very little code
  • [20:50:27] <ds2> accels are easy to interface
  • [20:50:36] <ds2> that driver might work or mod it slightly
  • [20:50:39] <ds2> what data rates do you need?
  • [20:51:18] <m_billybob> vaizki, nice thanks derek molloy has a vid on i2c too i think
  • [20:51:21] <KotH> cyronin_: only thing that you should keep an eye on is that during startup time you should not have any data going to the bma... and the startup time is about twice as long as in the datasheet specified
  • [20:51:26] <georgem> Might see if this driver is compatible: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/input/misc/bma150.c
  • [20:51:43] <cyronin_> i know its not needed and can be done in userspace, but im also looking for an excuse to make/work with kernel code, as i do see other accel drivers in the tree
  • [20:51:47] <KotH> cyronin_: failing to follow that rule will lead to weird behavior of the sensor
  • [20:52:15] <vaizki_> the others are IIO drivers?
  • [20:52:49] <cyronin_> yeah, im still confused by that, there are iio drivers and input drivers for accelerometers, is the difference between those about data rates or something?
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  • [20:53:20] <cyronin_> or is there an organizational shift going on?
  • [20:53:29] <cyronin_> probably wrong channel to ask in
  • [20:53:34] <ds2> no, the difference is the way they provide output
  • [20:53:42] <ds2> both can do the data rates
  • [20:54:21] <dnil> I've developed a new cape for the bone, and I'm wondering what part number to give it. Is there a naming convention? I'm currently calling it DNIL-AMPCAPE-1, is that ok?
  • [20:55:13] <dnil> Seems like the name a pick would be visible in quite a few places in case I'd like to get a patch into the ?ngstr?m kernel for example.
  • [20:55:39] <vaizki_> iio is more geared towards adcs etc, you can specify things like triggers and then get notified in userspace when things happen instead of polling etc
  • [20:56:00] <panto> dnil, the name is fine
  • [20:56:11] <Spirilis> ah interesting
  • [20:56:15] <Spirilis> first time I'd read about IIO
  • [20:56:19] * Spirilis has been living under a rock fyi
  • [20:56:25] <cyronin_> gotcha, so input would be a more reasonable subsystem to go for if i just have a process polling
  • [20:56:25] <panto> what does it do?
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  • [20:56:48] <vaizki_> for an accelerometer I would go with IIO
  • [20:57:16] <dnil> panto, thanks. It combines an audio DAC with an audio amplifier and a 12-24V DC input power supply for the amp and the bone.
  • [20:57:30] <panto> excellent
  • [20:57:44] <dnil> So you can hook up speakers directly to the cape
  • [20:57:50] <panto> if you have a dts fragment we can put it in the kernel we ship
  • [20:58:09] <vaizki_> does it have a subwoofer output?!
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  • [20:58:15] <dnil> Yes, I have a dts.
  • [20:58:32] <dnil> No subwoofer output, sorry...
  • [20:58:34] <panto> ok, send it to either me or koen
  • [20:58:51] <vaizki_> what do you mean no subwoofer? :(
  • [20:59:33] <dnil> Will sent it when I'm ready, I'm working to restore davinci-evm support in the 3.8 kernel first.
  • [21:00:32] <dnil> vaizki, the idea is to have a platform to build devices like the Sonos multi-room audio solution.
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  • [21:01:26] <dnil> I've built a couple of protos, and audio works well over pulseaudio rtp protocol with mpd as the source
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  • [21:01:36] <jkroon_> panto, are you familiar with the tilcdc driver ? I updated my meta-beagleboard and a couple of other layers I have, and now Xorg won't start anymore, complaining that modesetting driver can't find any devices. I'm using an external LCD panel with a custom dts-fragment in the kernel. The panel is not sending any EDID information (via i2c?) or something like that, only the LCD-signals are connected.
  • [21:02:14] <vaizki_> well I have a sonos setup and the connect:amp which is close to what you're doing definitely has a subwoofer output + automatically activated crossover when something is plugged in there
  • [21:02:20] <panto> boot with drm.debug=255 and pastebin the output
  • [21:02:57] <panto> jkroon_, we switched to the modesetting driver for X11
  • [21:03:31] <jkroon_> panto, ok, will do. Yeah, and I noticed something about blacklisting/whitelisting resolutions. I havent added anything like that to my dts...
  • [21:03:53] <vaizki_> dnil, how are the different playout devices time-synced? timecodes in the stream?
  • [21:03:54] <dnil> vaizki, do you mean a subwoofer amplifier output or a subwoofer lowlevel output?
  • [21:04:22] <vaizki_> line level sub out of course
  • [21:04:36] <vaizki_> a sub amp would be huge :)
  • [21:04:45] <vaizki_> at least if it was worth using
  • [21:05:19] <dnil> Right, ok then I follow. Yes it would be possible to get line level out for a sub from my design as well.
  • [21:05:23] <vaizki_> http://www.digitalmusicuser.co.uk/upload/data/622_Large.jpg
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  • [21:06:34] <dnil> The sonos devices are very nice indeed, I was thinking to start with something a lot lower cost and "simpler"
  • [21:07:00] <vaizki_> which DAC are you using btw?
  • [21:07:10] <vaizki_> wolfson?
  • [21:07:13] <dnil> RTP protocol carries time sync information. Quite a lot of processing on the ARM CPU, but the BBB keeps up nicely
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  • [21:07:24] <dnil> TI TLV320AIC3106
  • [21:07:47] <vaizki_> dnil, ok that's great because even though time sync is a "small" thing, it makes a huge difference in multiroom setups
  • [21:08:24] <dnil> vaizki, right. It doesn't take much delay before the human ear can pick it up.
  • [21:10:10] <vaizki_> are you breaking out all the pins from the dac?
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  • [21:11:15] <dnil> not currently, I sent line out differentially to the amplifier and I've put a connector on there for the line in.
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  • [21:12:14] <dnil> headphone output is "free" for example.
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  • [21:17:03] <levi> dnil: Have you heard of Ethernet AVB? The hardware in BBB has features that allow it to achieve very accurate time sync and low-latency media transmission, which can give you far better sync between stations than plain RTP can and doesn't require PulseAudio resampling.
  • [21:17:23] <panto> levi, the hardware yes
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  • [21:17:30] <panto> not in the linux driver I've seen though
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  • [21:17:54] <levi> Right, but I (at some point) am planning on writing an AVB implementation for it.
  • [21:18:02] <panto> cool
  • [21:19:56] <dnil> levi, is that an application of Ethernet PTP ?
  • [21:20:00] <levi> I think at least the time sync stuff should not require a huge amount of work.
  • [21:20:24] <levi> AVB uses a variant of IEEE 1588 PTP called gPTP, yes.
  • [21:20:45] <levi> But gPTP is only a part of AVB.
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  • [21:21:51] <dnil> cool, that should of course be better than to include it in the RTP stream
  • [21:23:06] <dnil> Are you planning on integrating it with pulseaudio ?
  • [21:23:12] <levi> It also includes a couple of new protocols in 802.1Q (VLAN Bridging) for stream reservations and forwarding and queueing of time-sensitive streams, and there are currently two transport protocols, IEEE 1722 and IEEE 1733. The first adapts IEC61883 (audio/video transport over Firewire) to Ethernet framing and the second adapts RTP to use gPTP timestamps.
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  • [21:24:18] <levi> I'm not sure where in the audio stack it would hook in yet.
  • [21:27:15] <vaizki_> sounds like MPLS for audio or something :P
  • [21:27:42] <vaizki_> naturally if you run a recording studio or something you'd want those features
  • [21:27:52] <levi> Anyway, with IEEE 1722 transport, audio is presented at the top end of the 1722 stack on the receiving device precisely 2ms from when it entered the top end on the sending side. This is on a 100MBit LAN over 7 hops (assuming AVB-capable bridges, which is an unfortunate assumption right now).
  • [21:29:38] <dnil> levi, any thoughts in those protocols how to do this over wireless links?
  • [21:29:42] <vaizki_> just run it over RTP is my suggestion if you're doing home audio over wifi.. :O
  • [21:29:42] <levi> dnil: Yes, they've all got clauses for how 802.11 networks (as well as a couple of other kinds of non-Ethernet networks) should implement them.
  • [21:30:33] <levi> But unfortunately, the WiFi Alliance has dropped support for some aspects of the 802.11 spec that the forwarding/queuing bits of AVB rely upon.
  • [21:31:03] <dnil> I have RTP working over WiFi now, but it works a lot better of course using wired of course.
  • [21:31:06] <levi> Pulseaudio RTP currently fails pretty badly over WiFi on account of only using multicast.
  • [21:31:12] <vaizki_> and random vendor from china who makes the wifi usb dongle will drop the rest
  • [21:32:28] <dnil> levi, Hmm, both good and bad then.
  • [21:32:33] <dnil> interesting in any case!
  • [21:32:33] <levi> Multicast is a huge efficiency win on a wired network if you have multiple listening stations, but on 802.11 it interacts badly with the way they implement multicast right now.
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  • [21:33:36] <Roni_> Hey guys, i struggeling with some weird problem right now. i have a usb hub to my BBB connected and i had a wifi dongle attached and it worked nice. now i have attached an usb webcam but the BBB dosent recognizes the device. I??m aware of the fact that hotplugging currently isnt working because of kernel issues. Also my BBB is powered by a normal supply, not over the pc usb. Some Logs: http://pastebin.com/2qHtWSaE anyone got an Idea ho
  • [21:33:55] <dnil> levi, Yes, I've seen that as well. Turned out I had to split my home network into two subnets for that reason.
  • [21:34:12] <vaizki_> I guess that's why Sonos uses a proprietary stack on top of 802.11 instead of standard wifi
  • [21:34:52] <dnil> Very likely, yes
  • [21:34:54] <vaizki_> they probably don't use IP at all
  • [21:35:07] <vaizki_> for control yes but not for media streams
  • [21:35:38] <Roni_> i already search the forums and the web but cant find anything near to my problem. also on my ubuntu pc the webcam is recognized as normal device.
  • [21:35:41] <levi> 802.11 *is* standard wifi. You mean they don't use standard IP?
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  • [21:37:24] <vaizki_> well I don't know what they do, I just use it.. but it's a mesh for one thing and I guess the MAC is completely proprietary
  • [21:37:46] <vaizki_> and it's all AES crypted in hardware afaik
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  • [21:38:07] <vaizki_> vendor lock in up the wazoo but hey it works and the wife is happy
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  • [21:38:37] <levi> Ah yeah, mesh operation would get around the problems I mentioned, I think.
  • [21:38:48] <fedlap> hi all, i'm using a beaglebone white with rs232 cape and lcd7 attached. now, everytime when data is received the screen flickers. i'm using a 5 volts 2 ampere power supply and checked the 5V and 3.3V with a scope meter and noticed, that the supply voltage flickers with 60 mV at the moment of receiving (may 60 mV cause flicker?). i've already tried to add additional 10nF capacitors to filter the disturbance but with no success.
  • [21:39:19] <fedlap> does anybody have experience with rs232 cape and lcd7 cape?
  • [21:39:27] <jacekowski> 60mV shouldn't be visible at all
  • [21:39:38] <jacekowski> i think it's more to do with interrupt handling or something in that direction
  • [21:40:51] <fedlap> hm....is it possible that interrupt handling is different, when using a lcd3 cape? cause with it i ain't got this issue
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  • [21:43:06] <fedlap> jacekowski, do i have a possibility to check, if it's an interrupt problem?
  • [21:43:51] <vaizki_> do you have a LA?
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  • [21:44:51] <fedlap> what's LA? i guess i don't have LA :)
  • [21:44:59] <vaizki_> logic analyzer :)
  • [21:45:05] <m_billybob> bradfa oh wow -> mount -t debugfs none /sys/kernel/debug/
  • [21:45:14] <m_billybob> bradfa, thanks for the heads up
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  • [21:47:21] <vaizki_> hmm does TI sell SPI accessible FRAM?
  • [21:47:28] <fedlap> vaizki, now i'm sure that i don't have a la ;)
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  • [21:52:21] <rdsoft> Bonjour a tous, je suis d?veloppeur sur plateforme embarqu?e et je viens de m'acheter une BeagleBoard Black. Je cherche a comprendre comment installer la librairie QT pour linux Angstrom
  • [21:52:31] <rdsoft> quelqu'un aurait deja fait cela ?
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  • [21:54:01] <panto> ???, ???? ??? ? ?????????? ????? ??? ????????
  • [21:54:06] <panto> and on that note
  • [21:54:12] <panto> it's time to go, bbt
  • [21:54:18] <m_billybob> nini panto
  • [21:54:28] <panto> nani
  • [21:54:48] <panto> nini is the small (probably female) baby :P
  • [21:54:54] <panto> g'night
  • [21:54:59] <m_billybob> good night :)
  • [21:55:02] <vaizki_> fedlap, LAs are fun.. and take the guessing out of debugging pretty quick
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  • [21:55:30] <levi> Also, they are highly expensive!
  • [21:55:33] <fedlap> vaizki, but they are quite expensive :)
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  • [21:56:05] <rdsoft> Do someone has already use QT library on BeagleBoard Black and Angstrom Linux ?
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  • [21:57:55] <rdsoft30> Nobody is there ?
  • [21:58:10] <vaizki_> fedlap, naah.. there are LAs for all budgets
  • [21:59:39] <vaizki_> like http://dangerousprototypes.com/open-logic-sniffer/
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  • [22:01:11] <rdsoft> Hi everybody
  • [22:01:26] <rdsoft> I'm looking for help on beagleboard black
  • [22:01:31] <rdsoft> Do someone has already use QT library on BeagleBoard Black and Angstrom Linux ?
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  • [22:03:38] <rdsoft> Hi everybody, I'm looking for help on beagleboard black, Do someone has already use QT library on BeagleBoard Black and Angstrom Linux ?
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  • [22:12:00] <mranostay> vaizki_: rather nice and good for about 95% of the uses in this channel
  • [22:12:37] <prpplague> indeed
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  • [22:13:05] <mranostay> the limited sample size sucks but what you expect over USB?
  • [22:13:37] <m_billybob> ruh row someones been a baaaad boi
  • [22:16:18] <m_billybob> hmm neeto except i wanted to convert my stellaris LP into a logic analyzer
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  • [22:20:10] <mranostay> heh why?
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  • [22:21:08] <m_billybob> because i can and someone already did it / documented it
  • [22:21:25] <m_billybob> i have a stellaris launchpad that is now obsolete and other wise useless
  • [22:21:49] * mranostay has one in the box still
  • [22:22:38] <m_billybob> georgem, actually I owe you that thanks. thank you for bringing to my attention that /sys/kernel/debug is not always mounted. I've corrected that, and have it workign now :)
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  • [22:26:09] <jkroon_> panto, booting with drm.debug=255: http://pastebin.com/4X97iGNi
  • [22:26:27] <m_billybob> he went to bed :/
  • [22:26:55] <jkroon_> panto, and the Xorg log: http://pastebin.com/Y8k1zdM0
  • [22:27:07] <jkroon_> m_billybob, doh. ok
  • [22:27:34] <m_billybob> interresting output
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  • [22:39:58] <jkroon_> oh well, see if I can catch him or koen tomorrow. night beagles
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  • [22:53:34] <vaizki_> well I have a saleae logic myself which streams samples compressed so I can easily get 100M samples
  • [22:53:46] <vaizki_> re: open bench
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  • [23:35:32] <awdang> I'm having problems getting my Edimax 7811Un working with Ubuntu ver. 12 or 13 ARM image
  • [23:36:00] <awdang> can't get the USB wifi to obtain an IP address from the AP
  • [23:36:31] <awdang> I'm not sure what to try next (it seems we've tried every help page that was posted about this device and Ubuntu)
  • [23:38:08] <vaizki_> ok finally I got my head around systemd completely...
  • [23:38:21] <vaizki_> it may be the future but it's not always clear
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