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  • [00:00:25] <eikeon> dove into the u-boot source I'm using to shed light on boots arguments. Looks like the last argument was incorrect causing my dtb related error.
  • [00:00:48] <rp181> where can I find what the headers actually have? Are they all 1 bit ports?
  • [00:01:39] <bieberboard> Hello, I wonder if there is a way to boot the B^3 using sdcard without having to hold S2
  • [00:03:32] <bieberboard> gotta sing for a while, but I will check the logs thanks guys
  • [00:03:49] <Tartarus> eikeon: what sources, andarg?
  • [00:03:59] <cmicali> dgv: 3.8 branch - run the patch.sh and it will clone the kernel and patch it
  • [00:04:56] <Tartarus> and, uh, where are your uboot sources from?
  • [00:05:00] <cmicali> dgv: apparently a lot of the patches required are not mainlined, so this is the best way to do it and still be able to easily upgrade to newer versions of the kernel
  • [00:05:58] <eikeon> Tartarus: I've followed linuxonarm/BeagleBone and am trying to figure out my uEnv.txt http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone#BeagleBone-uEnv.txtbasedbootscript
  • [00:06:01] <cmicali> bieberboard: i think you can do that if you modify your uboot config - might be possible in uenv.txt, but if you build uboot you can definitely change the boot script
  • [00:06:22] <dgv> cmicali, thanks. I'm trying that now.
  • [00:06:42] <Tartarus> eikeon: Someone needs to kick them for using addresses directly rather than ${loadaddr} / ${fdtaddr}
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  • [00:07:12] <Shadyman> Dammit, BBone, Is There Anything You Can't Do? (tm) http://blog.makezine.com/2013/05/04/using-the-beaglebone-to-control-a-powerful-upper-body-exoskeleton/
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  • [00:07:15] <eikeon> Especially when the address is wrong??? or at least it didn't match ${fdtaddr} in my case.
  • [00:07:36] <eikeon> Not my kernel is booting up, but doesn't look to be getting to far.
  • [00:07:38] <Tartarus> Indeed :)
  • [00:07:52] <bieberboard> cmicali: thanks, what guide do I follow to flash uBoot
  • [00:08:41] <cmicali> bieberboard: that i have not been able to find, but if you can boot your board i think the fat partition (where uboot.img is) is in /media/something
  • [00:08:55] <cmicali> bieberboard: so when you build uboot you can drop MLO and uboot.img in there and i think that should work
  • [00:09:00] <cmicali> but, i'm not 100% on it
  • [00:09:12] <bieberboard> ok lemme look, thanks
  • [00:09:46] <Tartarus> And Robert knows he should post patches to the U-Boot ML, heh
  • [00:10:03] <Tartarus> fixrtc belongs in optargs, in uEnv.txt
  • [00:10:10] <Tartarus> (looking over his patch)
  • [00:10:31] <eikeon> This is where I'm currently stuck: http://pastebin.com/EZkzyS9Q
  • [00:10:31] <Tartarus> and the whole point of bootpart is so you don't have to go and whack around mmcdev/mmcpart :(
  • [00:10:46] <eikeon> Not sure if it hung, crashed or what.
  • [00:11:06] <Tartarus> what kernel? and afk, time to deal with the kids :)
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  • [00:11:29] <cmicali> tartarus mine went down after try 3, good luck
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  • [00:32:18] <segfault_> uhh any way to get the bootloader to read uboot off of the mmc card on the beaglebone black?
  • [00:32:51] <segfault_> nevermind, found the button
  • [00:32:52] <segfault_> :P
  • [00:33:12] <segfault_> hrm
  • [00:33:24] <segfault_> cmicali: that link to the eMMC flasher failed to boot :(
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  • [00:33:36] <PiyushA> hello
  • [00:34:23] <segfault_> http://pastebin.com/rWGeUhM4
  • [00:35:50] <PiyushA> has anyone had a BBB just show the 1-2-3-4 led light sequence then after that get stuck 100% on the CPU light forever after that
  • [00:35:57] <PiyushA> when booting from an SD-Card?
  • [00:36:37] <PiyushA> i won't have the serial cable for awhile so can't see what's going on =( and looks like its too early in boot sequence for the hdmi out to be working
  • [00:36:52] <segfault_> cmicali: funny, worked the second time i tried it
  • [00:37:09] <segfault_> oh wtf
  • [00:37:14] <segfault_> its powering itsself off
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  • [00:40:33] <CanyonMan> wait
  • [00:40:36] <CanyonMan> what else would he boot it off of?
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  • [00:41:28] <segfault_> PiyushA: I believe one of the led's should blink with a heartbeat and the other should be solid
  • [00:41:39] <PiyushA> yep.. not getting that at all :\
  • [00:41:58] <PiyushA> problem is eMMC stopped booting cause I had updated the board and it grabbed that 3.8.10 kernel
  • [00:42:03] <PiyushA> that stops eMMC
  • [00:42:09] <segfault_> oh fun
  • [00:42:18] <segfault_> yea im fighting with my BBB right now
  • [00:42:19] <PiyushA> yeah I saw the post about it literally 5 seconds after i had rebooted and I was like
  • [00:42:20] <PiyushA> damn
  • [00:42:24] <PiyushA> it was working great before that
  • [00:42:50] <CanyonMan> i have 3 regulra beaglebones
  • [00:42:53] <CanyonMan> and i just got my bb black
  • [00:42:58] <CanyonMan> without reading...well much of anything
  • [00:43:14] <segfault_> I wrote http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.05.02.img.xz to an SD card, held down the button to pull uImage from the sdcard and it's reflashing my eMMC right now
  • [00:43:20] <CanyonMan> I noticed it came with no SD card, which I assume meant I had to provide my own
  • [00:43:39] <PiyushA> yep I did that to
  • [00:43:43] <PiyushA> but it just isnt flashing
  • [00:43:50] <PiyushA> i dont know what its doing
  • [00:43:53] <segfault_> you'll need a 4G sd card
  • [00:43:56] <PiyushA> oh.
  • [00:43:58] <PiyushA> well f
  • [00:43:58] <PiyushA> lol
  • [00:44:00] <segfault_> hrm
  • [00:44:01] <PiyushA> that would do it.
  • [00:44:09] <segfault_> took me 3 tries to get the eMMC flasher to boot
  • [00:44:11] <PiyushA> i think mine is only 2g
  • [00:44:14] <PiyushA> why didnt I think of that
  • [00:44:22] <segfault_> yea, the image is for a 4g sd card
  • [00:44:25] <CanyonMan> oh ok whew. i thought for a second i had missed something important, like they added on board flash
  • [00:44:28] <PiyushA> @__________@
  • [00:44:32] <PiyushA> they did add onboard flash
  • [00:44:38] <PiyushA> it should boot the first time on its own
  • [00:44:46] <segfault_> yup, 2G onboard
  • [00:44:54] <PiyushA> @segfault Im surprised its a 4gb sd card image when the onbaord is 2g
  • [00:44:58] <CanyonMan> Oh I see
  • [00:44:59] <PiyushA> that's why I assumed i was okay
  • [00:45:09] <PiyushA> well that
  • [00:45:10] <CanyonMan> That's pretty crazy
  • [00:45:12] <PiyushA> sucks
  • [00:45:15] <segfault_> PiyushA: yup, I decompressed the image and it tuend out to be 3.5G
  • [00:45:24] <PiyushA> I just came back from walmart buying the hdmi cable
  • [00:45:32] <PiyushA> i guess ill go back tomorrow ~_~
  • [00:45:49] <PiyushA> thanks a lot... you are the winner I bet for solving my problem =)
  • [00:46:56] <segfault_> oh, bogus, even after the eMMC flash my custom kernel still wont boot
  • [00:47:05] <segfault_> It's gotta be something im doing wrong
  • [00:47:16] <PiyushA> well now I just feel stupid lol
  • [00:47:35] <PiyushA> so http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.05.02.img.xz - isnt working for you?
  • [00:47:48] <PiyushA> you made sure to take the sdcard out afterwards right?
  • [00:48:04] <CanyonMan> does it alway boot off of the external one first, and the on board one second?
  • [00:48:18] <PiyushA> so based on what i've read
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  • [00:48:25] <PiyushA> its complicated
  • [00:48:32] <PiyushA> it actually does boot off the eMMC always
  • [00:48:35] <PiyushA> *but*
  • [00:48:41] <PiyushA> the first step of that process
  • [00:48:47] <PiyushA> is to check if uSD is there
  • [00:48:50] <CanyonMan> I wonder if my wifi/bluetooth cape is going to be screwed up by this
  • [00:48:51] <PiyushA> and if it is, it will always try to boot that
  • [00:48:58] <CanyonMan> It uses MMC too, and I forget which channel it uses
  • [00:49:17] <PiyushA> and then if it doesnt find a uSD card then it continues to boot from eMMC
  • [00:49:27] <CanyonMan> ahh ok
  • [00:49:30] <CanyonMan> that's cool
  • [00:49:38] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: IIRC, there's one complete SD card breakout on the headers
  • [00:49:47] <Shadyman> and most of another.
  • [00:49:50] <segfault_> PiyushA: yea i took it out... im trying to tftp a custom kernel
  • [00:49:55] <segfault_> and i keep getting complications
  • [00:49:58] <Shadyman> the onboard SD card is actually a third, fwiw
  • [00:50:04] <CanyonMan> roger roger
  • [00:50:19] <Shadyman> I've got a prototype for an SD Card Cape here, just have to solder it up
  • [00:50:30] <CanyonMan> I built a TiWi-R2 board but I couldn't get it to work and i'm sad
  • [00:50:33] <PiyushA> oh I see
  • [00:50:41] <Shadyman> TiWi?
  • [00:50:43] * Shadyman googles.
  • [00:50:45] <segfault_> http://pastebin.com/Wy4Qz0PW
  • [00:50:50] <segfault_> >:(
  • [00:51:00] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Oooh, pretty.
  • [00:51:01] <CanyonMan> It's a little LSR wifi/bluetooth module with an SDIO interface
  • [00:51:04] <PiyushA> I know nothing about custom kernels and stuff... haha I can program great, can wire up electronics, but when it comes to linux... the less I touch it, the better haha
  • [00:51:16] * segfault_ gives the linux kernel the finger for not loading my FDT
  • [00:51:25] <PiyushA> Error: unrecognized/unsupported machine ID (r1 = 0x00000e05)
  • [00:51:31] <PiyushA> looks like you just need to add that ID
  • [00:51:33] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: You set the pins the right way?
  • [00:51:40] <CanyonMan> definitely
  • [00:51:44] <PiyushA> Please check your kernel config and/or bootloader.
  • [00:51:44] <segfault_> Yea, that shouldn't be an issue since I'm giving it the FDT
  • [00:51:46] <PiyushA> inside this
  • [00:51:49] <CanyonMan> It even thinks it loads firmware
  • [00:51:50] <PiyushA> haha okay
  • [00:52:08] <PiyushA> again you know more than I do =) i just like to ask the obvious/stupid questions just in case
  • [00:52:17] <CanyonMan> Koen was helping me with it for quite a while, and some others, but my project ran out of funding so I had to set it aside :-/
  • [00:52:20] <Shadyman> PiyushA: Hey, that's MY job! :p
  • [00:52:25] <PiyushA> can't tell you how many times ive freaked out thinking something wasnt working.. then realizing I forgot the power cable
  • [00:52:25] <CanyonMan> and the thing is, since then, others have made ones that actually work I think
  • [00:52:34] <PiyushA> haha
  • [00:52:42] <CanyonMan> however I do have one that does work
  • [00:52:48] <PiyushA> alrighty thanks for the help guys, I'll go buy a bigger micro sd card
  • [00:52:56] <PiyushA> that's what I get for not paying attention to file sizes =)
  • [00:53:00] <CanyonMan> it's an OBD-II interface and 12-24V DC/DC converter on a cape
  • [00:53:07] <Shadyman> Neat.
  • [00:53:12] <Shadyman> CAN bus?
  • [00:53:32] <CanyonMan> OBD-II over all interfaces ... CAN, J1850-PWM, J1850-VPW, and wahtever the hell the other one is
  • [00:53:37] <Shadyman> or are you actually throwing in a J1850--
  • [00:53:39] <Shadyman> niiice.
  • [00:53:50] <Shadyman> where do you find converters like that these days?
  • [00:53:52] <CanyonMan> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone_TiWi-BLE_w/_EXT._Antenna see i bet taht one works
  • [00:53:59] <Shadyman> NXP canned their J1850 interface IC
  • [00:54:07] <CanyonMan> yeah
  • [00:54:16] <Shadyman> using the ELMs?
  • [00:54:31] <CanyonMan> you can make the j1850 interface out of discrete parts, it's really about 5 transistors and a couple of comparators
  • [00:54:34] <Shadyman> The thing that gets me is that ELMs are just PICs with proprietary firmware
  • [00:54:37] <CanyonMan> actually there's soething better than elm now
  • [00:55:11] <Shadyman> Oh?
  • [00:55:16] <CanyonMan> dammit
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  • [00:55:22] <Shadyman> Oh, I've heard of those.
  • [00:55:23] <CanyonMan> you are going to ask me what it is, aren't you
  • [00:55:33] <Shadyman> Everyone uses "Dammit!" I hear them preaching its name all the time!
  • [00:55:39] <Shadyman> :3
  • [00:55:52] <CanyonMan> STN1110
  • [00:55:53] <CanyonMan> that's it
  • [00:55:53] <Shadyman> "Did you hear that? DAMMIT!"
  • [00:56:15] <PiyushA> how much experience do you guys have with cameras? My biggest question is, why are they always board mounted. One of the projects I'd like to do eventually is integrate the
  • [00:56:18] <PiyushA> OVM7690
  • [00:56:39] <PiyushA> maybe not necessarily with BBB, but raspberry pi hardware encoding should be able to handle it
  • [00:56:49] <PiyushA> but I need to be able to have the camera on a wire
  • [00:56:55] <CanyonMan> do yoy know what else
  • [00:57:00] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Niiice.
  • [00:57:05] <CanyonMan> i implemented a J1708 receiver in the PRU :-)
  • [00:57:06] <PiyushA> I don't have enough *practical* experience implementing stuff like that
  • [00:57:15] <PiyushA> college only taught me crap loads of theory that I barely remember haha
  • [00:57:21] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: That's one way to do it.
  • [00:57:22] <PiyushA> and that was just 2 years ago..
  • [00:57:26] <CanyonMan> OH NO
  • [00:57:31] <CanyonMan> the TiWi-BLE board is 70 bucks
  • [00:57:33] <CanyonMan> that's more than the BBB
  • [00:57:46] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Not surprising. How much is hte module itself in quantity=1?
  • [00:57:52] <CanyonMan> 30 clams
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  • [00:58:05] <Shadyman> how about in 10s or 25s?
  • [00:58:09] <Shadyman> $20-25?
  • [00:58:23] <CanyonMan> i think you have to buy more than that to hit $25 but something like that
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  • [00:58:28] <CanyonMan> I'm nto sure how much I like Clara (re: Dr. Who)
  • [00:58:33] <[1]segfault> there we go
  • [00:58:40] <[1]segfault> get a real irc client going in here :P
  • [00:58:52] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Hm. Are there many supporting components that the TiWi needs? I'm leaning towards "Oh No" as well.
  • [00:59:09] <CanyonMan> there's a disaster there too, it's um
  • [00:59:15] <CanyonMan> it's 1.8V SDIO
  • [00:59:19] * Shadyman squints.
  • [00:59:27] <CanyonMan> so you need these God-awful bidirectional automatic direction finding level switchers
  • [00:59:41] <CanyonMan> you also need a small stick and some vaseline
  • [00:59:44] <Shadyman> Or..
  • [00:59:46] <CanyonMan> and after all that it still won't work!
  • [00:59:59] <Shadyman> perhaps you could bitbang SDIO over the ADC pins at 1.8V ;)
  • [01:00:09] <CanyonMan> holy crap, you're insane
  • [01:00:12] <Shadyman> ^
  • [01:00:18] <CanyonMan> your winky face doesn't excuse you for that
  • [01:00:21] <[1]segfault> okay, i've come to the conclusion I have no idea wtf im doing wrong
  • [01:00:24] <Shadyman> haha
  • [01:00:34] <CanyonMan> loose cockatoo on the floor, brb
  • [01:00:40] * Shadyman squawks!
  • [01:00:47] <[1]segfault> gah, the only time i've ever gotten a custom kernel to boot on the BBB is when i was drunk
  • [01:00:55] <Shadyman> [1]segfault: So start drinking!
  • [01:01:11] <CanyonMan> yeah. that sounds like a plan. you have to try it again and see if the pattern is repeatble.
  • [01:01:16] <chupacabra> i second that
  • [01:01:33] * [1]segfault whacks head on keyboard
  • [01:01:39] <chupacabra> lol
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  • [01:01:50] <[1]segfault> I've been fighting with this thing since thursday
  • [01:02:12] <Shadyman> so far on the testing block, I have an SD Card Cape, a NEO-6M GPS Cape, and an iButton/1-Wire Cape
  • [01:02:18] <chupacabra> only a couple of days?
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  • [01:02:53] <Shadyman> and then I made a prototype cape that's all through-hole except for the EEPROM
  • [01:02:57] <Shadyman> and full of holes :3
  • [01:03:15] <chupacabra> I remember getting X to work in 2 weeks in 95
  • [01:03:22] <Shadyman> :o
  • [01:03:29] <Shadyman> ALL GLORY TO THE CHUPATOAD!
  • [01:03:41] <levi> Heh, custom modeline hell. The good old days of X.
  • [01:03:48] <chupacabra> hey 2 days is trivial
  • [01:04:11] <Shadyman> I still shudder when I play with graphics drivers.
  • [01:04:18] <chupacabra> me too
  • [01:04:53] <levi> The realm of graphics and video is pure evil, carried forward from the early days of analog television.
  • [01:04:57] <[1]segfault> It's gotta be something with this dtb
  • [01:05:58] <levi> Ever look at the standards for DVI/HDMI?
  • [01:06:05] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: I'd imagine your STN cape uses some kind of DB15 or DB25 connector to hook up a cable like most tools?
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  • [01:07:54] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Keep in mind as an alternative option that you can always just bluetooth to something like http://dx.com/p/super-mini-elm327-bluetooth-odb2-v1-5-car-diagnostic-interface-tool-blue-142679 as well, though it wouldn't provide power or be as cool as a cape on its own ;)
  • [01:11:42] * [1]segfault bangs head on keyboard in a repetitive manner
  • [01:11:59] <[1]segfault> something has got to be wrong with the dtb im using
  • [01:12:01] <cmicali> segfault: where are you now?
  • [01:12:10] <cmicali> stock kernel from 3.8 branch
  • [01:12:14] <cmicali> and your own DTB?
  • [01:12:14] <[1]segfault> Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.
  • [01:12:21] <cmicali> have you tried the DTB that gets build from the stock 3.8 branch?
  • [01:12:29] <[1]segfault> yes :D
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  • [01:12:46] <cmicali> and that won't boot?
  • [01:12:57] <[1]segfault> I'm even appending it to the end of the kernel using: root@builder:~/beagleboneblack/linux-dev/KERNEL# make -j3 ARCH=arm LOCALVERSION=-bone16 CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi-" uImage-dtb.am335x-boneblack
  • [01:13:04] <cmicali> did you flash the emmc using that koen image?
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  • [01:13:06] <[1]segfault> yup
  • [01:13:16] <[1]segfault> that boots just fine, with the angstrom kernel
  • [01:13:23] <[1]segfault> my custom kernel is giving me the finger
  • [01:13:44] <[1]segfault> its something I'm doing, i just have no idea what
  • [01:14:33] <cmicali> when you say your kernel, what are the diffs from the 3.8 bb branch?
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  • [01:15:22] <[1]segfault> oh its just a custom .config
  • [01:15:43] <[1]segfault> I strip it down to what I need and enable a few extra options
  • [01:15:48] <[1]segfault> like cryptoloop support
  • [01:15:53] <cmicali> so i did that too
  • [01:15:59] <cmicali> let me get my make command
  • [01:16:18] <[1]segfault> like i said, it's something im doing wrong, i just have no idea what im doing wrong
  • [01:16:45] <cmicali> segfault: make -j 8 ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- uImage dtbs modules
  • [01:16:57] <[1]segfault> yup, looks like mine
  • [01:16:59] <cmicali> then this:
  • [01:17:02] <cmicali> rm -rf dist
  • [01:17:02] <cmicali> mkdir dist
  • [01:17:02] <cmicali> mkdir dist/boot
  • [01:17:05] <cmicali> make -j 8 ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- modules_install INSTALL_MOD_PATH=dist
  • [01:17:09] <cmicali> cp arch/arm/boot/uImage dist/boot
  • [01:17:12] <cmicali> cp firmware/*.dtbo dist/lib/firmware
  • [01:17:15] <cmicali> cp arch/arm/boot/dts/am33*.dtb dist/boot
  • [01:17:19] <cmicali> and finally
  • [01:17:19] <cmicali> cd dist
  • [01:17:19] <cmicali> tar cvzf kernel.tar.gz *
  • [01:17:27] <cmicali> and then i untar that into / of the BBB
  • [01:17:34] <cmicali> in a deploy script
  • [01:17:41] <[1]segfault> makes sense
  • [01:17:55] <cmicali> and that's it, is working OK for me
  • [01:18:00] <[1]segfault> im more or less doing all of that except for the cp of the firmware and dtb since i'm doing this all via TFTP
  • [01:18:17] <[1]segfault> i cp the kernel and dtb to my /tftproot
  • [01:18:35] <[1]segfault> setenv serverip 192.168.0.5; setenv ipaddr 192.168.0.6; tftp 0x80200000 uImage; tftp 0x80F80000 am335x-boneblack.dtb; bootm 0x80200000 - 0x80F80000
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  • [01:18:42] <[1]segfault> that, should work
  • [01:18:55] <cmicali> are you sure those addresses are right?
  • [01:19:02] <[1]segfault> yup, pulled them from printenv
  • [01:19:14] <cmicali> oh but yeah it boots right
  • [01:19:16] <cmicali> so they have to be rihgt
  • [01:19:34] <[1]segfault> yea, the kernel just wiggs out on me when it tries to boot
  • [01:19:46] <[1]segfault> doesn't dump any info to the console about it's failure to boot
  • [01:19:56] <[1]segfault> the heartbeat led also doesn't kick on so i know it's dead
  • [01:20:04] <cmicali> do you have an FTDI cable?
  • [01:20:05] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Though powering the Beagle straight from the car along with OBD2 is ubercool :)
  • [01:20:08] <[1]segfault> yup
  • [01:20:18] <cmicali> and nothing is coming out of there?
  • [01:20:22] <[1]segfault> nope
  • [01:20:27] <cmicali> hm that is nuts
  • [01:20:32] <CanyonMan> yeah, and it reads the battery voltage and figures out when the engine is running
  • [01:20:38] <[1]segfault> I have console=ttyO0,115200n8
  • [01:20:49] <CanyonMan> when the engine goes off for a while it does a linux shutdown then cuts off the power to the bone, basically goes to sleep
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  • [01:20:57] <CanyonMan> when the voltage goes about (engine running) the bone turns back on
  • [01:20:57] <cmicali> cable on backwards? :)
  • [01:21:01] <ka6sox> hiya emeb_mac !
  • [01:21:10] <[1]segfault> cmicali, well i can read the uboot output :P
  • [01:21:22] <emeb_mac> ka6sox: how's things/
  • [01:21:25] <emeb_mac> ?
  • [01:21:27] <[1]segfault> and yes, i've got cable on right lol
  • [01:21:28] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Neat. I think a power-sucking OBD2 was on my list of things to do, too :/
  • [01:21:39] <cmicali> [1]segfault: hm, then I'm out of ideas sorry, thats just about exactly what i'm doing
  • [01:21:39] <ka6sox> emeb_mac, Plumbing Hell...
  • [01:21:49] <[1]segfault> cmicali, yea, i dont know what i did to it
  • [01:21:56] <[1]segfault> im wondering if its a problem specific to TFTPing
  • [01:22:06] <[1]segfault> something uboot isn't doing
  • [01:22:13] <ka6sox> emeb_mac, should I add the 7pin straight one too?
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  • [01:22:21] <ka6sox> thats the one I really like
  • [01:22:36] <ka6sox> I fixed the 20 pin one
  • [01:22:37] <emeb_mac> ka6sox: what 7-pin?
  • [01:22:49] <[1]segfault> it'd be awesome to hook up a beaglebone to my ODB2 to collect performance data :D
  • [01:23:03] <ka6sox> 7 pin .125
  • [01:23:18] <CanyonMan> woah, i'm watching something on bbc america and I think the guy was from ... what the hell ... is he max headroom??
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  • [01:23:54] <emeb_mac> ka6sox: don't know about that one. I have used the 10-pin mini JTAG in a few places though
  • [01:23:55] <ka6sox> the straight connector from the TMB you showed me the otherday
  • [01:24:06] <ka6sox> you showed me a 7 ping
  • [01:24:17] <emeb_mac> ka6sox: oh - the 6-pin SWD on a 0.1" header
  • [01:24:28] <emeb_mac> that's mostly for Cortex Mx stuff.
  • [01:24:40] <emeb_mac> not really general-purpose.
  • [01:25:07] <ka6sox> 6pin swd
  • [01:25:07] <ka6sox> ya
  • [01:25:12] <ka6sox> okay
  • [01:25:21] <ka6sox> the 10 pinmini maybe?
  • [01:25:24] <emeb_mac> yeah
  • [01:25:32] <emeb_mac> that's coming into wider use in JTAG apps
  • [01:25:33] <ka6sox> is that 2mm?
  • [01:25:45] <emeb_mac> Ifinkso
  • [01:26:09] <ka6sox> hokayfine
  • [01:26:25] <ka6sox> do I have that part in the Lib?
  • [01:26:39] <ka6sox> lemme looksee
  • [01:27:33] <emeb_mac> part should be in the libs I sent
  • [01:27:41] <emeb_mac> it's 0.05"
  • [01:30:17] <ka6sox> tiny
  • [01:30:31] <ka6sox> I'm probably going to add the debug sigs too
  • [01:30:38] <emeb_mac> yah
  • [01:30:46] <emeb_mac> 2 kinds: unshrouded http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?x=-988&y=-71&lang=en&site=us&KeyWords=609-3729-ND
  • [01:31:00] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Then there's also http://www.obdsol.com/stn1170/ ... "While STN1170 ST commands will provide access to SW-CAN and MS-CAN networks, the proprietary GM & Ford codes must be obtained independently." LAME.
  • [01:31:36] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Though, the Beagle has a CAN transciever or 3, no?
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  • [01:32:34] <ka6sox> emeb_mac, I'm thinking shrouded
  • [01:32:49] <emeb_mac> better. looking for P/N now
  • [01:33:30] <ka6sox> that way the bugs can't see ya coming
  • [01:34:02] <emeb_mac> here: http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?vendor=0&keywords=609-4054-ND
  • [01:34:48] <CanyonMan> i don't think it has transceivers on it but it does have the can interface
  • [01:34:59] <CanyonMan> it's DCAN
  • [01:35:02] <CanyonMan> drivers for it for linux are now stable
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  • [01:37:06] <ka6sox> emeb, thats the ticket!
  • [01:37:27] <[1]segfault> cmicali, any chance you're willing to share your .config?
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  • [01:40:19] <Shadyman> CanyonMan: Ah, cool.
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  • [01:47:52] <[1]segfault> oh dont tell me this thing wants an XIP kernel
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  • [01:48:16] <[1]segfault> i swear if that's the problem, im gonna beat my head on this desk
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  • [01:49:57] <[1]segfault> f u unstable connection
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  • [01:57:57] <dgv> Trying to build that kernel failed, cmicali. <<No rule to make target `firmware/am335x-pm-firmware.bin'>>
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  • [02:09:44] <ssi> is it possible to get the /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux files like I've seen people reference in BBW writeups?
  • [02:09:52] <ssi> mounting debugfs gets me some stuff, but no omap_mux
  • [02:12:22] <Tbones> I'm having a bit of trouble getting BBB to 'see' the uSD card when booting/running from eMMC. No /dev/sdX devices, nor any mention of the SD card detection in dmesg
  • [02:12:39] <Tbones> it's like the uSD is disabled when eMMC is in use...
  • [02:13:10] <Tbones> updating kernel to 3.8.11 now, will see if that helps
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  • [02:14:40] <dgv> Tbones - i saw the same with the stock kernel
  • [02:16:04] <Tbones> dgv - were you able to fix it by rebuilding kernel w/ additional options/config changes?
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  • [02:17:28] <Tbones> per the schematics, mmc0 controller should be the one connected to uSD slot
  • [02:17:38] <Tbones> eMMC is on mmc1 controller
  • [02:18:12] <dgv> ha. Still trying to make a working kernel for this damn board. first time ever first board ever to keep me stumped this long
  • [02:18:33] <dgv> booting linux on a 8-bit AVR was easier than this and took less time
  • [02:19:26] <ssi> 3.8?
  • [02:19:32] <ssi> i didn't have that much trouble getting a 3.8 kernel that'd boot
  • [02:19:49] <dgv> where did you get the source and how did you build it and wat do you tell uboot to boot it?
  • [02:20:12] <dgv> I got pm firmware here: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x-PSP_04.06.00.07_Release_Notes
  • [02:20:14] <dgv> kernel i got here:L
  • [02:20:26] <dgv> https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8
  • [02:20:37] <ssi> git://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev.git
  • [02:20:41] <ssi> refs/heads/am33x-v3.8
  • [02:20:42] <dgv> in uboot i use fatload to load kernel, ramdisk and dtb file
  • [02:20:46] <ssi> has a script
  • [02:20:51] <ssi> the result works fine
  • [02:20:53] <dgv> looks like the same script i used :)
  • [02:20:58] <ssi> possibly
  • [02:21:00] <dgv> how do you load it under uboot?
  • [02:21:15] <dgv> yup - same script
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  • [02:21:26] <ssi> I took an image that was for BBW, and I dropped the kernel in /boot on the ext partition
  • [02:21:30] <ssi> and untarred the modules on the fs as well
  • [02:21:33] <ssi> and it Just Worked
  • [02:21:39] <dgv> what the?
  • [02:21:53] <dgv> what about the dtb file and all that fun?
  • [02:22:02] <ssi> oh the dtb file went in /boot as well
  • [02:22:18] <dgv> and what does your uEnv.txt look like on fat partition?
  • [02:23:37] <ssi> mmcroot=/dev/mmcblk0p2 ro
  • [02:23:38] <ssi> mmcrootfstype=ext4 rootwait fixrtc
  • [02:24:34] <dgv> just that?
  • [02:24:41] <ssi> yep
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  • [02:25:11] <dgv> now that is just strange.
  • [02:25:23] <ssi> sorry!
  • [02:25:34] <dgv> can you bychance shoot me over a copy of your kernel. i want to try it here and see if my uboot is guilty or kernel i built
  • [02:25:40] <dgv> dmitrygr@gmail
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  • [02:26:00] <ssi> sure
  • [02:27:02] <dgv> thanks
  • [02:27:06] <ssi> on its way
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  • [02:32:47] <MassMe> So i just picked up bb black. I am looking to replace to windows embedded. If I replace the MLO and add the nesc files to the storage will and something goes wrong.. will I be able to load the storage device via usb again or is linux emulating that or something?
  • [02:33:09] <dgv> stick to using SD cards till it works :)
  • [02:33:30] <MassMe> ok so I can bypass the onboard?
  • [02:33:40] <dgv> ssi: didn't get email. did it go out ok to dmitrygr@gmail.com ?
  • [02:34:00] <dgv> MassMe - the board will boot from a properly cormatted SD card by default if one is present
  • [02:34:43] <ssi> hm lemme try again
  • [02:35:22] <dgv> just got one now
  • [02:35:24] <dgv> thanks
  • [02:35:51] <MassMe> I will give that a shot, by any chance do you know if there is an adeneo image avail? I could have sworn I saw the black on their site a few days ago.
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  • [02:37:05] <dgv> well, fuck, ssi. Your kernel boots just fine.
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  • [02:37:25] <ssi> hah
  • [02:37:31] <dgv> so next question is if i can have a copy of your config, and where do I seend your beer
  • [02:37:53] <ssi> the kernel config?
  • [02:37:56] <dgv> yup
  • [02:38:01] <dgv> ".config" file from kernel build tree
  • [02:38:19] <ssi> honestly it's all defaults
  • [02:38:20] <ssi> but I'll send it
  • [02:38:32] <dgv> the script left me with "configs" folder which has beaglebone
  • [02:38:35] <dgv> but not beaglebone black
  • [02:38:47] <ssi> maybe you should try the RCN tree
  • [02:39:28] <dgv> RCN?
  • [02:39:46] <mrpackethead> ding ding ding
  • [02:40:02] <ssi> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev
  • [02:40:07] <ssi> it may be the same script as what you were using
  • [02:40:13] <ssi> but it obviously doesn't do the same thing :)
  • [02:40:42] <dgv> ha. can't hurt to try. i'll do that now. thanks. (did you ever get PVR working, or try to)
  • [02:40:49] <ssi> PVR?
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  • [02:41:56] <dgv> the graphics subsystem on this chip
  • [02:42:03] <ssi> oh, no
  • [02:42:05] <ssi> not really my focus
  • [02:42:08] <ssi> I'm working on machine control
  • [02:42:15] <dgv> to get accelerated graphics you need powervr modules and userspace app
  • [02:42:16] <ssi> trying to get the damn gpios to behave and dance for me :)
  • [02:42:37] <dgv> why not just throw together a simple kernel module and bang the proper addresses?
  • [02:42:46] <ssi> that's what I'm doing
  • [02:42:49] <dgv> (i am assuming you tried sysfs-gpio and found it to not work well enough or at all)
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  • [02:43:04] <ssi> sysfs works for the userleds
  • [02:43:16] <Tbones> FWIW - 3.8.11 kernel boots/works fine, but still can't see the uSD slot (mmc0), only eMMC (mmc1)
  • [02:43:16] <ssi> once I built a kernel with the gpio_led stuff modular
  • [02:43:30] <ssi> but I'm not getting any result on other gpios via sysfs
  • [02:43:39] <ssi> not sure if it's my scope or if I'm crazy or if it's pinmux or what
  • [02:44:01] <dgv> pinmux *should* be handled by a proper kernel driver for sysfs-gpio
  • [02:44:04] <ssi> I can also bitbang the userled gpios by mmap'ing /dev/mem and banging the relevant addresses
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  • [02:44:54] <ssi> but even using sysfs, configuring gpio1_28 (P9 pin 12) as an output and writing 1 to value, I get no measurable output on scope
  • [02:46:41] <ssi> I'm trying to figure out how to get /sys/kernel/debug/omap_mux to show up
  • [02:49:21] <dgv> sorry, no idea. i worked with sitara (for work) about 7 months ago and almost all the code seems to have changed.
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  • [02:58:08] <[1]segfault> okay, anyone know what I'm doing wrong here? I'm providing a FDT but the kernel seems to be ignoring it
  • [02:58:09] <[1]segfault> http://paste.kill-9.me/view/5f312c01
  • [02:58:26] <router> Anyone can help me boot the kernel from SD card, 'Wrong Image Format for bootm command'
  • [02:58:45] <[1]segfault> means the image isn't loaded into memory AFAIK
  • [02:58:58] <[1]segfault> so it either a) can't be found or b) can't be loaded
  • [02:59:29] <router> reading uImage
  • [02:59:29] <router> 3078600 bytes read
  • [02:59:49] <[1]segfault> what address are you reading it into?
  • [02:59:52] <router> the kernel was read
  • [02:59:57] <router> i am using xm REV C
  • [03:00:06] <router> 82000000
  • [03:00:28] <[1]segfault> ah, try 0x80200000
  • [03:00:37] <router> i am trying to run kernal from DVSDK 4.0.3
  • [03:02:17] <ssi> so yeah, i'm just being stupid
  • [03:02:18] <dgv> bootm excepts a u-boot image. that meassage tells you that what you gave it was not a uboot image
  • [03:02:22] <ssi> gpios work fine from sysfs
  • [03:02:30] <dgv> what was wrong, ssi?
  • [03:02:43] <ssi> I was probing P8 when I thought I was probing P9
  • [03:02:59] <dgv> glad to hear all works well. good luck on you rproject
  • [03:03:11] <ssi> thanks
  • [03:03:35] <ssi> and my program that pokes memory works too
  • [03:03:59] <dgv> i'm trying the scripts in that repo and branch you pointed me to
  • [03:04:03] <dgv> branch calls itself
  • [03:04:09] <dgv> 3.8
  • [03:04:20] <dgv> the kernel you sent me was "3.8.10+"
  • [03:04:25] <dgv> you built that using that script?
  • [03:04:26] <ssi> yeah
  • [03:04:29] <ssi> yep
  • [03:04:31] <dgv> sweet!
  • [03:04:38] <dgv> hope it works for me too.
  • [03:04:56] <ssi> I hope so too
  • [03:05:11] <ssi> one complaint I have is, with that script, it seems to do a full clean rebuild every time
  • [03:05:15] <ssi> oh also one other thing you should do
  • [03:05:26] <ssi> exit the makefile; it only makes zImage
  • [03:05:29] <ssi> change it to uImage
  • [03:05:33] <dgv> no prob
  • [03:05:35] <ssi> not sure why that was that way
  • [03:05:36] <dgv> i can run mkimage myself :)
  • [03:05:50] <ssi> well... hopefully it won't force a full rebuild when you do
  • [03:05:52] <ssi> I had bad luck with it
  • [03:06:09] <dgv> this whole move to dfbs from board files in kernel infuriates me. i understand the nice part of it - less code. but the part where it is a huge PITA to use still is anoying
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  • [03:06:21] <ssi> folks'll get used to it
  • [03:06:35] <dgv> soes that script get the pm firmware for you
  • [03:06:42] <[1]segfault> dgv, yea it's broken my shit
  • [03:06:42] <dgv> or do you still need to download and supply it yourself
  • [03:06:46] <dgv> do you remmeebr bychance?
  • [03:06:55] <ssi> trust me, it was irking me too because i need an RT kernel, and BBB needs 3.8 for the dtb, but there's no xenomai for 3.8
  • [03:07:01] <ssi> um yea it builds the firmware feor you
  • [03:07:08] <[1]segfault> this whole DTB crap is a bunch of BS.
  • [03:07:11] <dgv> sweet. then this is exactly what i need
  • [03:07:16] <[1]segfault> I can see the reason for it but it's so annoying
  • [03:07:17] <ssi> yeah it should help a lot :)
  • [03:07:49] <[1]segfault> I don't understand what I'm doing wrong... im stuck
  • [03:07:57] <[1]segfault> I give the kernel the dtb
  • [03:08:06] <[1]segfault> but it's like herpa derp non-supported machine id
  • [03:08:12] <[1]segfault> completely ignoring the fact that i gave it a dtb
  • [03:08:17] <dgv> segfault, what are you doing in uboot
  • [03:08:21] <dgv> can you try the commands by hand
  • [03:08:24] <dgv> and see what happens?
  • [03:08:29] <[1]segfault> setenv serverip 192.168.0.5; setenv ipaddr 192.168.0.6; tftp ${kloadaddr} uImage; tftp ${fdtaddr} ${fdtfile}; bootm ${kloadaddr} - ${fdtaddr}
  • [03:08:38] <ssi> segfault, the kernel you build has some machineids hardcoded into it in board.c I think
  • [03:08:52] <dgv> machine ids are ingored for DTBs and set to 0xffffffff
  • [03:09:02] <dgv> the message you see means kernel never got your dtb
  • [03:09:03] <[1]segfault> here's the output
  • [03:09:04] <[1]segfault> http://paste.kill-9.me/view/c3e33478
  • [03:09:12] <[1]segfault> yea, i dont understand why it's not getting the dtb
  • [03:09:45] <dgv> are you using a uboot recent enough to understand how to pass DTB to the kernel in the "new " way
  • [03:09:48] <dgv> (there is also an old way)
  • [03:09:53] <[1]segfault> yup
  • [03:09:58] <[1]segfault> its 2013.04 release
  • [03:10:10] <dgv> my suggestion (short o finstrumenting kernel source code) is to enable kernel option to look for DTB after kernel
  • [03:10:15] <dgv> then concatenate the kernel with DTB using cat
  • [03:10:18] <[1]segfault> done it
  • [03:10:20] <dgv> (see in-menuconfig help for that option)
  • [03:10:21] <[1]segfault> it hangs
  • [03:10:32] <dgv> you concat first then mkimage right?
  • [03:10:36] <[1]segfault> yup
  • [03:10:42] <[1]segfault> when I try that method it hangs at Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.
  • [03:10:49] <[1]segfault> the heartbeat led doesn't kick on
  • [03:10:53] <[1]segfault> so it's obviously dead
  • [03:11:09] <dgv> strange
  • [03:11:13] <[1]segfault> it'll boot the angstrom kernel with no problem
  • [03:11:17] <[1]segfault> so the board is good
  • [03:11:28] <[1]segfault> and the angstrom kernel i have is 3.8.11 and im using 3.8.11
  • [03:11:36] <dgv> the angstron kernel
  • [03:11:37] <dgv> you boot
  • [03:11:41] <dgv> using the same exact procedure?
  • [03:11:53] <[1]segfault> yes, but not via tftp
  • [03:12:08] <dgv> try using same procedure exactly
  • [03:12:14] <dgv> just to separet procedure from kernel
  • [03:12:18] <dgv> *separate
  • [03:12:20] <[1]segfault> okay
  • [03:12:22] <dgv> see which is failing you
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  • [03:12:43] <Zzzzz> why beagleboard-xm OS don't reach 1GHz frequency?
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  • [03:16:10] <dgv> ssi, did you ever send me your kconfig, bychance? i'd love to have a known good copy here after you head out since your kernel worked
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  • [03:22:11] <andyl> I'm trying to connect a BeagleBone to my ubuntu desktop. When I plug in the USB, I get no tty, no mounted disk device. What should I try next ??
  • [03:22:29] <andyl> Using Xubuntu 12.04, BeagleBone 'white' A5
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  • [03:24:48] <andyl> lsusb doesn't see the BeagleBone
  • [03:24:55] <andyl> nor does dmesg...
  • [03:25:07] <[1]segfault> random: holy shit i'm getting 20MB/s over my wireless N.. I've never gotten speeds that fast
  • [03:25:14] <andyl> plugged in a ThumbDrive and all works fine
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  • [03:28:16] <dgv> andyl, is usb providing enoguh power, did boarD LIGHT UP?
  • [03:29:00] <ssi> dgv: sent
  • [03:29:24] <dgv> ssi, thanks
  • [03:29:52] <andyl> @dvg - yes - board is running - I can ssh to the board over ethernet
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  • [03:31:32] <dgv> if you can ssh in, do lsmod
  • [03:31:37] <dgv> see what modules are loaded
  • [03:31:59] <dgv> the "appearing on usb" is handled by usb gadget modules. there are a few: ethernet, storage, etc
  • [03:32:01] <dgv> see if any are loaded
  • [03:32:33] <andyl> @dgv - ok run lsmod on my ubuntu desktop or on my beaglebone ?
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  • [03:33:24] <andyl> on the beaglebone, lsmod shows 'ipv6' and 'g_mass_storage'
  • [03:33:58] <andyl> on the ubuntu desktop lsmod shows 65 items...
  • [03:34:00] <dgv> on the bone
  • [03:34:19] <[1]segfault> wait a second
  • [03:34:24] <[1]segfault> i feel like im missing a kernel patch
  • [03:34:26] <andyl> k on the bone I show two items - ipv6 and g_mass_storage
  • [03:34:29] <[1]segfault> to fix the memory mapping issues
  • [03:34:30] <dgv> g_file_storage
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  • [03:34:38] <dgv> ok so it should appear then
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  • [03:34:55] <dgv> cable ok? did you mess with pinmuxes?
  • [03:35:17] <andyl> cable should be fine - I haven't messed with pinmuxes
  • [03:35:33] <andyl> (but I will try another cable now just to be sure)
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  • [03:38:05] <andyl> OMG - seeing something different with another cable - stand by...
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  • [03:38:48] <andyl> and... its working - damn - looks like the cable was the problem
  • [03:39:10] <andyl> @dgv - THANKS - never would have suspected the problem could have been the cable...
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  • [03:40:21] <[1]segfault> sigh, i need a drink
  • [03:43:53] <ptan> ok, I've googled and am lost... where the heck is the directory that has the default web server? /var/www doesn't exist
  • [03:44:02] <ptan> on the beaglebone black
  • [03:44:29] <ptan> I'm trying to code a simple default web site to control my motors on my cape.
  • [03:45:08] <dgv> :)
  • [03:45:41] <dgv> andyl, when you've run out of things to suspect, start questioning your basic assumption. When out of those, question the axioms
  • [03:46:15] <[1]segfault> that's it, im done.
  • [03:46:19] <[1]segfault> i give up on the blacks.
  • [03:46:35] <[1]segfault> i can get kernels to boot out the ying yang on the standard beaglebone
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  • [03:46:40] <[1]segfault> but the beaglebone black can suck it.
  • [03:46:50] <ptan> [1]segfault: I'm not upgrading my kernels/linux on my blacks... I just want them to work!
  • [03:47:09] <[1]segfault> Unfortunately my 3.2 kernel from the standard beaglebone can't boot on a beaglebone black
  • [03:47:13] <ptan> I'll wait till the dust settles..
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  • [03:47:28] <[1]segfault> the problem is the damn DTB
  • [03:47:34] <[1]segfault> FDT
  • [03:47:50] <[1]segfault> if i give it to it from uboot, it ignores it
  • [03:48:12] <[1]segfault> if i append it to the kernel it gives me : Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.
  • [03:48:13] <[1]segfault> and dies
  • [03:48:30] <[1]segfault> im usually good at figuring this stuff out
  • [03:48:37] <[1]segfault> but i've been fighting with it for 3 1/2 days now
  • [03:48:52] <[1]segfault> err 2 1/2
  • [03:48:55] <ptan> ouch
  • [03:49:08] <[1]segfault> I've tried 3 different methods of compiling a kernel
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  • [03:49:26] <[1]segfault> I've tried the beaglebone kernel repo.. I've tried the RobertCNelson git linux-dev method
  • [03:49:29] <[1]segfault> I've tried the gentoo method
  • [03:50:14] <ptan> yeah, I'm definitely waiting until the dust settles on this one...
  • [03:50:28] <[1]segfault> i can build a kernel without making any .config changes and i still cant get em to boot
  • [03:50:35] <[1]segfault> yet i can boot the one for angstrom
  • [03:50:41] <[1]segfault> i have no idea why that works and mine doesnt
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  • [03:56:16] <robtow> Just unboxed my new BeagleBone Black :-)
  • [03:56:39] <ptan> robtow: don't upgrade it!!! ;)
  • [03:56:44] <ssi> lol
  • [03:57:01] <robtow> ptan... yeah, I've been seeing some stuff about that todfay.
  • [03:57:05] <[1]segfault> im half tempted to take mine to the gun range
  • [03:57:08] <[1]segfault> use it as a target
  • [03:57:19] <[1]segfault> at 500 yards should be challenging
  • [03:57:30] <robtow> And, yes, I *do* want to compile my own distro from source for it, like I have for the Beagleboard B.
  • [03:57:43] <[1]segfault> robtow, good luck with that :D
  • [03:57:50] <[1]segfault> im trying to do the same thing, not working so wel
  • [03:58:10] <robtow> segfault... tyhere is an existance proof in that it comes with a bootable distro!
  • [03:58:21] <[1]segfault> using an old kernel :(
  • [03:58:28] <[1]segfault> 3.8.3 i think
  • [03:58:28] <robtow> segfault - what's a quick synopsis of your woes?
  • [03:58:43] <[1]segfault> http://paste.kill-9.me/view/c3e33478
  • [03:58:53] <[1]segfault> it ignores my DTB
  • [03:59:06] <robtow> I'm not going to update onboard, but would like to try to boot off the card, from something I build.
  • [03:59:19] <[1]segfault> if i append the DTB it hangs http://paste.kill-9.me/view/e4b727e2
  • [03:59:45] <ptan> grrrrr... opkg install sockstat == "Unknown package 'sockstat'
  • [03:59:51] <robtow> segfault - it dies on uncompresswing linux?
  • [04:00:15] <ptan> (still trying to find some way of locating the default http: directory)
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  • [04:00:47] <trace_> hi
  • [04:01:12] <[1]segfault> it finishes uncompressing.... my stupid cursor didn't copy correctly
  • [04:01:14] <[1]segfault> http://paste.kill-9.me/view/7b7db699
  • [04:01:33] <[1]segfault> and that's where it hangs
  • [04:01:35] <[1]segfault> no heartbeat led
  • [04:01:48] <[1]segfault> it's not a console= issue
  • [04:01:59] <[1]segfault> which is what i usually expect when it dies there
  • [04:02:03] <trace_> anyone know how i can get my wifi dongle working on my beaglebone black?
  • [04:02:16] <[1]segfault> heh you said dongle
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  • [04:02:38] <trace_> lol
  • [04:02:58] <[1]segfault> sorry i've had a few beers out of frustration
  • [04:03:21] <[1]segfault> so now, im going back to basics and doing a default build without customizing the kernel
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  • [04:03:30] <emeb_mac> trace_: depends on what kind of wifi chipset it uses.
  • [04:03:35] <[1]segfault> and if that doesn't boot, i swear to god its an issue with DTB, uboot, and TFTP
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  • [04:06:58] <trace_> i got it off adafruit...works fine on my raspberry pi but cant get to work on my BBB... its RTl8192cu Chipset
  • [04:07:45] <[1]segfault> HAH
  • [04:07:47] <[1]segfault> I KNEW IT!
  • [04:07:49] <[1]segfault> HAHAHAHAHA
  • [04:07:52] <[1]segfault> it is a TFTP issue
  • [04:07:54] <[1]segfault> F U UBOOT
  • [04:08:06] <trace_> ::P
  • [04:08:28] <emeb_mac> trace_: I've got an RTL8192 working on an old Beagleboard.
  • [04:08:30] <[1]segfault> or..
  • [04:08:57] <emeb_mac> trick is you need the driver in the kernel and the firmware binary in the right place to load up at boot time.
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  • [04:10:16] <trace_> i figure it would work fine with another linux distro...not so sure about this distro that come on it.... just fired it up a couple of hours ago
  • [04:11:01] <[1]segfault> crap
  • [04:11:03] <[1]segfault> i was wrong.
  • [04:11:09] <[1]segfault> oh
  • [04:11:10] <[1]segfault> FFS
  • [04:11:12] <[1]segfault> seriously!?
  • [04:11:33] <[1]segfault> im almost sure that i'm a complete retard.
  • [04:12:40] <dgv> ssi, with that tool i got a working kernel
  • [04:12:41] <dgv> finally
  • [04:12:42] <dgv> :)
  • [04:12:47] <dgv> now on to PVR
  • [04:12:51] <ssi> dgv: spectacular :)
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  • [04:15:42] <[1]segfault> im gonna go over into that corner and just bang my head against the wall till i pass out
  • [04:15:47] <[1]segfault> im a retard.
  • [04:16:10] <dgv> be happy you know what's wrong, segfault :)
  • [04:16:23] <[1]segfault> yeaaa....
  • [04:16:26] <[1]segfault> i just wasted 2 days
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  • [04:17:03] <robtow> segfault - what's that????? You tried to do a network boot?
  • [04:17:27] <ssi> what was the problem?
  • [04:18:44] <[1]segfault> well, i trashed the old .config, started fresh and now it works
  • [04:18:54] <[1]segfault> plus i think i did something stupid
  • [04:19:00] <[1]segfault> and didn't use console=ttyO0
  • [04:19:12] <ptan> FYI if people are looking, found the default http: directory at /usr/share/bone101
  • [04:19:16] <[1]segfault> i had it in the kernel bootargs line
  • [04:19:31] <[1]segfault> but i think something was overriding it
  • [04:19:36] <ptan> I think I'll call it a night and go play halo 4 and shoot a few people now...
  • [04:19:38] <[1]segfault> i know about 10 different things it could be
  • [04:20:43] <[1]segfault> figured it out.
  • [04:20:47] <[1]segfault> it's using a built in initramfs
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  • [04:21:08] <[1]segfault> when using a built in initramfs in the kernel it ignores the fdt
  • [04:21:20] <[1]segfault> that's the only thing i changed
  • [04:21:33] <[1]segfault> assbag of a system.
  • [04:21:43] <MH> Anyone have any luck with the PRU on the BBBlack
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  • [04:23:04] <[1]segfault> BOOM
  • [04:23:07] <[1]segfault> yup, confirmed
  • [04:23:26] <[1]segfault> if i include an initramfs in the kernel
  • [04:23:32] <[1]segfault> it ignores the FDT
  • [04:23:37] <[1]segfault> that uboot passses to it
  • [04:23:53] * [1]segfault flips the bird to linux
  • [04:23:59] <[1]segfault> i knew it had to be linux and not me.
  • [04:24:26] * [1]segfault dances
  • [04:24:31] <[1]segfault> here's the problem.
  • [04:24:36] <[1]segfault> I HAVE to include an initramfs
  • [04:25:05] <[1]segfault> i guess i could build it and use it as an initrd instead
  • [04:25:08] <[1]segfault> instead of building it in
  • [04:26:59] <MassMe> so if I insert sd card on black it will boot off if it? Or it will update onbaord? I want to just boot of sdcard. I have mlo and eboot and nk.bin on it
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  • [04:30:02] <MH> MassMe can you get it to update the onboard emmc?
  • [04:30:32] <MH> MassMe I can only boot the other images from the card and can not get them to write unto the board
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  • [04:31:27] <MassMe> mw - dgv told me earlier to boot from sdcard. kinda new to beagleboard
  • [04:32:08] <MH> When I put an SD card in and power it up, it boots straight of the SD.
  • [04:32:22] <MH> off*
  • [04:33:40] <MH> Does that work for you?
  • [04:33:49] <MassMe> im shooting for windows embed. i have the image for the white, and was hoping to see if it will work for the black
  • [04:34:02] <MassMe> i plopped in mlo, eboot, and nk
  • [04:34:15] <MassMe> all lights went blue, nothing displays
  • [04:34:45] <MH> The image for Ubuntu- bone white and Ubuntu- bone black are different,
  • [04:35:33] <MH> My guess would be you need a new image
  • [04:35:40] <MassMe> you think maybe i can use the mlo that the black comes with to use as windows boot
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  • [04:38:35] <MH> I don't know :/
  • [04:39:25] <MassMe> hehe, ok, apreaciate the info. i'll report back, thanks!
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  • [04:39:47] <[1]segfault> oh hell yes.
  • [04:40:10] <MH> Sorry. Yea please do, I could use all the info I can get.
  • [04:40:11] <[1]segfault> using an initrd instead of a built in initramfs works B-E-A-UTIFLY
  • [04:44:51] <MassMe> MH - ohh and btw, according to doc. to update onboard it says to hold down boot before power on for bone black
  • [04:45:43] <MH> MassMe yea I don't understand that part. I've done it and waited several hours and it never transfered the image over.
  • [04:46:05] <MH> MassMe Am I supposed to hold that button for all 45 minutes?!
  • [04:46:35] <MH> MassMe Maybe I didn't have the right image.
  • [04:46:36] <MassMe> i just tried using provide mlo, im not sure if it is a boot loop or what. screen flashes every few sec
  • [04:46:43] <MassMe> left 3 led are on
  • [04:47:45] <MH> MassMe How exactly do you use the mlo. That is new to me?
  • [04:48:08] <robtow> segfault - how about writing this up somewhere?
  • [04:48:09] <MassMe> not sure, think we're both in the same boat buddy
  • [04:48:16] <MassMe> lets swap notes
  • [04:48:51] <robtow> I'd appreciate it :-)
  • [04:49:37] <MH> sounds good to me
  • [04:50:49] <MassMe> is there a pm or something?
  • [04:51:31] <MH> For the IRC? Not to my knowledge.
  • [04:52:00] <terisk1> Has anyone gotten PyBBIO to work on a BBB?
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  • [05:44:15] <MH> anyone have any luck writing new images unto their BBB
  • [05:44:24] <kwantam> into the eMMC, you mean?
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  • [05:44:45] <MH> yes, that is what I mean.
  • [05:44:47] <kwantam> I haven't actually bothered writing to the eMMC, but the process is rather simple
  • [05:44:52] <kwantam> or, so it seems
  • [05:45:00] <ssi> the angstrom update does it successfully
  • [05:45:13] <kwantam> if you grab the 4/13 image you can get the code that the update uses
  • [05:45:15] <ssi> other than that, I tried to do it from a 4g image and was shocked to find that it filled the device :)
  • [05:45:18] <MH> one would have you think, I haven't tried it with angstrom but other distros
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  • [05:45:42] <kwantam> grab the image, unzip it, mount the main partition from the image as a loopback device, look in ./build in the image's rootdir
  • [05:46:19] <MH> Is this only for the angstrom distribution?
  • [05:46:30] <kwantam> I wrote a little bit on doing this today http://github.jfet.org/BBKNotes2.html (scroll down to "updating the eMMC from Debian (but not really)"
  • [05:46:45] <ka6sox> morning MH
  • [05:46:58] <kwantam> well it should work for anything; what I'm suggesting is that you can follow exactly the procedure that the update uses
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  • [05:47:07] <MH> ka6sox darn morning already
  • [05:47:19] <ka6sox> darn?
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  • [05:47:26] <ka6sox> oh!
  • [05:47:32] <ka6sox> darn, morning already?
  • [05:48:04] <mranostay> morning? people sleep?
  • [05:48:15] <MH> ka6sox early hours of the morning here.
  • [05:48:51] <kwantam> basically the procedure is: partition the eMMC w/ a FAT partition and an ext4 partition, put u-boot on the FAT partition, then untar the latest distribution onto the ext4 partition. So it's a pretty general-purpose procedure, assuming you have a system already tarred up
  • [05:49:19] <kwantam> otherwise, you could make yourself a USB flash drive or microSD card with an installer and do the procedure that way
  • [05:49:35] <kwantam> e.g., http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian
  • [05:50:13] <kwantam> but you'll have to be careful to get the partition setup correct for u-boot; I'm pretty sure the first partition needs to be marked bootable in the partition table, for example
  • [05:50:30] <MH> ah yes I have been using http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu to try and make a mircoSD card that would flash the emmc yet no luck
  • [05:50:38] <kwantam> sorry I can't provide more specific guidance; I haven't actually done it, I've only looked into it and then decided not to
  • [05:51:05] <MH> I should go back to the angstrom distro for a while and play with it, thanks for the advice
  • [05:51:18] <kwantam> the eMMC should show up as mmcblk1 when you boot from the microSD card (the microSD will be mmcblk0)
  • [05:51:49] <kwantam> no prob
  • [05:52:23] <kwantam> also I'm not sure if the Ubuntu page has an image for installing onto the microSD card, but I've been booting from microSD with debian and keeping the internal storage untouched so I have a fallback if I screw something up
  • [05:53:32] <ka6sox> is there enough room on the 2GB eMMC for the image?
  • [05:53:33] <kwantam> anyone have any experience using the PRUs on the 'bone white?
  • [05:53:42] <MH> That was my first though too :). i didn't check the drives earlier..
  • [05:53:49] <MH> kwantam yes i have
  • [05:53:54] <ka6sox> kwantam, a bit, but I'm in the middle of a design right now...sorry
  • [05:54:14] <kwantam> does uio_pruss actually work reliably on the 'bone white with the latest Angstrom distro?
  • [05:54:24] <kwantam> or maybe a better question, was this with 3.8 or with like 3.2 or something?
  • [05:54:34] <kwantam> because at least under 3.8 uio_pruss is flaky as heck
  • [05:54:43] <MH> I used the PRUSS on ubuntu 12.04 with no problems
  • [05:54:50] <MH> how is it flaky?
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  • [05:55:08] <kwantam> to actually get the pruss driver to work you have to kind of abuse the capeloader
  • [05:55:32] <Noobie> Hey Kwantam. Do you have any experience with running other distros on beagle bone blacks?
  • [05:55:44] <kwantam> like, modprobe uio_pruss doesn't actually result in successfully loading the uio stuff, and /sys/class/uio remains empty
  • [05:56:13] <kwantam> then if you kind of install and uninstall it a couple times and ping the capeloader by making it load some rather vanilla setups, it works fine
  • [05:56:44] <kwantam> dude on the Beagleboard google group figured out a procedure that's reliable earlier today, but it's convoluted
  • [05:57:00] <MH> do you get any error messages from the process or is it just silent
  • [05:57:02] <kwantam> sure it's scriptable and apparently repeatable but annoying
  • [05:57:13] <kwantam> insmod silently does nothing
  • [05:57:22] <MH> Noobie what distro are you looking for
  • [05:57:23] <kwantam> I mean, the module is loaded, but nothing in dmesg and no actually uio
  • [05:57:30] <kwantam> Noobie, yes, debian
  • [05:57:36] <ka6sox> this is why we want to do a firmware() loader implementation
  • [05:57:44] <kwantam> ka6sox makes sense
  • [05:57:49] <ka6sox> using the kernel's built in function.
  • [05:57:57] <Noobie> I'm trying to get Arch Linux running. I've made SD card images for the raspberry pi, and now I'm testing out the beagle board black.
  • [05:58:30] <kwantam> Noobie, it should be relatively straightforward to do it in the same way
  • [05:58:44] <Noobie> So far I've made the update SD card image following the standard beagle board procedures for updating the default OS and that worked.
  • [05:58:48] <kwantam> the script that accompanies the debian image builder works well
  • [05:59:24] <kwantam> Noobie : http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#Demo_Image have a look at the way that image building process works
  • [05:59:39] <kwantam> you should be able to build an arch image in largely the same way
  • [06:00:06] <kwantam> ka6sox on the other hand the firmware loader isn't enough in itself is it?
  • [06:00:38] <Noobie> Because it is all new hardware and micro SD cards, I'm not 100% certain that everything is compatible. I'm writing a pre-made ubuntu image to an SD card now that I used for updating the original firmware.
  • [06:00:39] <kwantam> if you only had the firmware loader functionality you'd still have to do some ugly memmap hacks to actually run the PRU code
  • [06:01:12] <kwantam> or maybe I'm mistaken. That happens a lot :)
  • [06:02:18] <MH> speaking of the PRU what is the current status of using the PRU on the black? has anyone done it yet?
  • [06:02:20] <kwantam> Noobie I documented the install process I used http://github.jfet.org/BBKNotes1.html
  • [06:02:26] <kwantam> MH I am able to use it
  • [06:02:49] <kwantam> it's just an ugly hack to get it working; see https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/beagleboard/gqCjxh4uZi0
  • [06:02:49] <Noobie> Cheers Kwantam. I'll give the debian a go after my current image is written. My card reader is very slow.
  • [06:02:56] <MH> kwantam awesome, did you run any troubles going from the white to black
  • [06:03:02] <kwantam> I've never used a white
  • [06:03:15] <kwantam> black is my first experience with the AM33xx
  • [06:03:19] <MH> kwantam how did you get the PRU running?
  • [06:03:27] <Noobie> I'll be happy to see it running any other OS so that I know I've got working/compatible SD cards etc.
  • [06:03:29] <kwantam> MH http://github.jfet.org/BBKNotes2.html
  • [06:03:44] <kwantam> most of the way down the page I discuss it
  • [06:03:57] <kwantam> actually I start by discussing that, then get distracted by something else, then go back to it
  • [06:04:00] <Noobie> Cheers MH.
  • [06:04:10] <kwantam> but by the end of the page you should have it working
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  • [06:04:24] <kwantam> also verified that the solution works with the Angstrom 4/13 image with 3.8.6
  • [06:04:35] <kwantam> (i.e., the most recent Angstrom image for the BBK)
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  • [06:04:58] <MH> awesome
  • [06:05:08] <kwantam> but I warn you it's kind of ugly ...
  • [06:05:20] <kwantam> I mean, it's a simple shell script
  • [06:05:22] <kwantam> but it feels gross
  • [06:05:29] <kwantam> "do these random things and then magically stuff works"
  • [06:05:31] <kwantam> ew
  • [06:05:57] <kwantam> at some point it'll maybe annoy me enough that I'll investigate exactly what's going on, but for now I'm going to move on
  • [06:06:31] <kwantam> also I've noticed some weirdness with USB (host; gadgets work fine), at least on the Debian image. If you boot with a USB device it works, but if you unplug and replug it does not
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  • [06:07:35] <kwantam> haven't dug into that yet because I'm not really using my boards that way, but I might eventually have to loop around and figure out what's up; maybe just kernel wonkiness, but I don't have a cross build setup going yet and I don't want to distract myself from my near-term goals fixing stuff I don't really need.
  • [06:08:56] <kwantam> the only other wart I've noticed with the BBK is that the HDMI output is kind of ugly and jumpy. I read something somewhere about the LCD outputs being kind of noisy and the a5a board rev having some extra caps to try and make it better, but it doesn't seem to be completely fixed.
  • [06:09:32] <rbarris> what kind of cable and display is it using
  • [06:09:47] <kwantam> 6 meter micro to hdmi into my tv at the moment
  • [06:09:53] <MH> kwantam, this sus up the problems I've had with the pru on the black. I'll se what i can do with it.
  • [06:09:56] <kwantam> I only tried it once, very briefly
  • [06:09:56] <rbarris> (would love to hear of display&cable combos that are known-good)
  • [06:10:03] <rbarris> 6 meters ?? or feet.
  • [06:10:07] <kwantam> meter
  • [06:10:09] <kwantam> sorry
  • [06:10:10] <kwantam> mistype
  • [06:10:11] <kwantam> 3 meter
  • [06:10:19] <rbarris> still a modestly long cable
  • [06:10:22] <kwantam> yes
  • [06:10:29] <kwantam> it's entirely possible it's something else causing the issue
  • [06:10:38] <ka6sox> MH the A4 (which I have) does not have PRUs in it...
  • [06:10:49] <rbarris> the world is analog... try another cable or TV
  • [06:11:05] <kwantam> ka6sox: it has the AM333x rather than the 335x, or something like that?
  • [06:11:24] <ka6sox> 23352
  • [06:11:27] <ka6sox> grrr
  • [06:11:29] <kwantam> rbarris, yeah, that was going to be my approach, fix my own issues before blaming someone else :)
  • [06:11:29] <ka6sox> 3352
  • [06:11:42] <kwantam> ah, 3352 rather than the 3358?
  • [06:11:42] <rbarris> i dont have mine cabled up yet so i am just guessing
  • [06:11:57] <kwantam> hrm
  • [06:12:11] <kwantam> apparently someone got the bondout wrong on some pre-production parts :)
  • [06:12:28] <MH> ka6sox I hava anA5 and A5A I am working with
  • [06:12:40] <kwantam> with the right combination of acids and a wire bonder maybe you can fix the glitch... tee hee
  • [06:12:54] <ka6sox> so you would be able to do this.
  • [06:13:26] <MH> A5A* ..
  • [06:14:42] <MH> do this? as in wire bonder and acids
  • [06:15:12] <kwantam> I don't think we have our wire bonder any more
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  • [06:15:22] <kwantam> anyway it was in california and I'm in texas so that won't fly
  • [06:15:41] <kwantam> but certainly I could get someone to decap one if I asked real nice. Far less than half the battle, though.
  • [06:20:58] <kwantam> dang, the Sitara is apparently in 45nm cmos. That's pretty serious.
  • [06:21:35] <kwantam> I guess if you want to do 1ghz at this kind of power level, that's where you're at!
  • [06:22:12] <rbarris> I doubt you can get a chip decapped and re-wired for less than $45 :)
  • [06:22:26] <[1]segfault> hey robtow
  • [06:22:40] <kwantam> rbarris extremely true :)
  • [06:22:41] <[1]segfault> remember the issue i was having earlier? I think it has to do more with the kernel's size
  • [06:23:10] <_av500_> size matters
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  • [06:30:56] <tony__> Got my BBB yesterday. Went and did an update and now will not boot. Followed instructions to load image on SD card (BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.04.13-DDR3-400MHz) and am trying to boot from card. Press the boot switch as I plug in power cord. No lights come on except power. Any hints what I may be doing wrong?
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  • [06:32:09] <MH> what is the result when you pull the SD out?
  • [06:32:38] <tony__> Nothing different, just power light on.
  • [06:32:48] <kwantam> do you have a serial cable?
  • [06:33:02] <tony__> Unfortunately no.
  • [06:33:40] <MH> can you boot it all now?
  • [06:33:48] <MH> it at all now?
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  • [06:34:13] <tony__> No, when I plug in the power nothing happens except the power light turns on.
  • [06:34:46] <kwantam> what happened during the update itself?
  • [06:35:49] <tony__> It completed with some errors which I sorta ignored as things seemed to work fine. I believe they are the same errors as I have seen online about version errors.
  • [06:36:17] <tony__> When I reboot nothing happens.
  • [06:36:32] <dm8tbr> how did you prepare the SD-card?
  • [06:37:08] <tony__> I used win32diskimager.
  • [06:37:44] <kwantam> do you have a USB flash drive? You could write the flash image to the drive and attempt to boot from that. In principle, upon failing to find a microSD card when booting with the switch depressed, it should attempt to boot from USB and UART before falling back to the eMMC
  • [06:38:44] <dm8tbr> tony__: do you have a linux pc available?
  • [06:38:54] <tony__> Yes I do. I would just prepare it the same way as SD card? How long should I have to hold the boot switch when trying this?
  • [06:39:20] <tony__> I have a centos install.
  • [06:39:24] <kwantam> I'd say hold it until it's evident that the behavior is different (or not)
  • [06:39:52] <tony__> I held it for about a minute and gave up.
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  • [06:40:02] <kwantam> yeah it shouldn't take that long
  • [06:40:42] <tony__> Worth a try trying the usb flash drive?
  • [06:41:10] <kwantam> it probably can't do any harm other than potentially waste your time, I suppose.
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  • [06:41:54] <kwantam> you might instead try some other bootable image?
  • [06:42:08] <kwantam> building such a thing might require your centos install, though
  • [06:42:27] <tony__> Any suggestions on which would be a good one to try?
  • [06:43:44] <kwantam> well I'm sure I'm sounding like a broken record but I've had a good experience with the Debian Wheezy test image http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#Demo_Image
  • [06:44:07] <tony__> Cool, thanks for the suggestion.
  • [06:47:11] <dm8tbr> I'd try rewriting the sd-card with a validation linux from your centos install
  • [06:48:13] <tony__> Sorry, don't know what you mean by "validation linux". I have been just learning over the last few months.
  • [06:48:16] <Noobie> Hey Kwantam: I wrote the Ubuntu image from the following page to my Kingston 8G Class 4 MicroSD card and booted successfully: http://www.armhf.com/index.php/boards/beaglebone-black/
  • [06:48:56] <tony__> Hey, thanks. that's what I wanted to get to anyway!
  • [06:48:57] <dm8tbr> tony__: there should be validation images for the BBB
  • [06:49:17] <tony__> Oh, okay, thanks.
  • [06:49:43] <Noobie> I'm now testing the same image on my Sandisk card, and if that works I'll give either the Debian a shot, or try the Arch Linux again. It might have been finger trouble with not holding the button down long enough but I'll have that confirmed in another 30 minutes I would say.
  • [06:50:29] <tony__> Sandisk being microsd or usb flash drive?
  • [06:51:17] <Noobie> 8GB Sandisk micro sd card Class 4. Its in my writer at the moment, but I'll double check when it has finished.
  • [06:52:01] <tony__> Thanks.
  • [06:53:20] <kwantam> tony__, Noobie, good to know that works.
  • [06:53:30] <kwantam> erm, Noobie, even.
  • [06:53:43] <kwantam> tony__, if Ubuntu is what you're looking to use, then there you are!
  • [06:54:30] <Noobie> No problem guys.
  • [06:55:05] <tony__> I'll give it a shot.
  • [06:58:32] <tony__> I was just reading the ubuntu install page. Does it come with a desktop or just command prompt?
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  • [06:59:16] <kwantam> if it's strictly commandline, you can always `apt-get install xorg` or whatever
  • [06:59:36] <m_billybob> debian image cli too ?
  • [06:59:59] <m_billybob> would think so, butthats what im after
  • [07:00:09] <Noobie> @Tony__: I was only intersted in the cli so I didn't test any further. (Also, I don't have an appropriate cable for video out yet.)
  • [07:00:44] <tony__> Thanks.
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  • [07:01:51] <tony__> Going to try the angstrom img from my flashdrive here since I am curious.
  • [07:02:28] <cdrttn> 23:12 < MH> ka6sox I hava anA5 and A5A I am working with
  • [07:02:28] <cdrttn> 23:12 < kwantam> with the right combination of acids and a wire bonder maybe you can fix the glitch... tee hee
  • [07:02:31] <cdrttn> 23:12 < ka6sox> so you would be able to do this.
  • [07:02:34] <cdrttn> 23:13 < MH> A5A* ..
  • [07:02:36] <cdrttn> 23:14 < MH> do this? as in wire bonder and acids
  • [07:02:39] <cdrttn> 23:15 < kwantam> I don't think we have our wire bonder any more
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  • [07:02:44] <cdrttn> 23:15 < kwantam> anyway it was in california and I'm in texas so that won't fly
  • [07:02:57] <m_billybob> yeah, thanks for that lol
  • [07:03:09] <Noobie> SanDisk 8GB Class 4 Micro SD card with Ubuntu on that link link above confirmed to boot.
  • [07:04:22] <tony__> Good news.
  • [07:04:47] <kwantam> does it boot from the flash drive?
  • [07:05:20] <tony__> Just creating this img, almost done.
  • [07:06:01] <kwantam> oh, I misparsed your statement.
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  • [07:09:04] <tony__> Still nothing with the flash drive. All I get is the pwr led light on. The boot switch is the one by the usb port right?
  • [07:09:44] <kwantam> the one sitting by itself.
  • [07:09:47] <kwantam> yeah, near the USB port
  • [07:10:07] <tony__> Right, thanks. Gonna write the ubuntu one.
  • [07:10:21] <KotH> gr??ezi
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  • [07:16:47] <cdrttn> disgregard copy paste error. made a fumble.
  • [07:20:12] <kwantam> oof, it appears it's bedtime
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  • [07:21:24] <test> hi
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  • [07:26:18] <tony__> That doesn't work either so maybe I'll get a new sd card tomorrow and give that a shot.
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  • [07:31:37] <Noobie> Arch Linux Success. Just followed the following instructions, but the thing I was getting wrong time and time again, was how long to hold the button down while booting to make it select the correct image. Looks like about 8 seconds did it for me.: http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/beaglebone
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  • [07:33:03] <tony__> If more than 8 did it not work?
  • [07:33:54] <Noobie> I'll do some more tests and get back to you Tony. Preivously I was not holding it down long enough.
  • [07:34:58] <tony__> Thanks.
  • [07:38:20] <Noobie> After 8 seconds, I get 2 leds coming on. I'm wondering if somethign was shorting or maybe my button wasn't pressed cleanly the entire time before or not.
  • [07:38:46] <Noobie> Maybe it was a debounce issue? I'll do further testing later and post here. I have to sort out dinner now :)
  • [07:39:46] <tony__> Thanks for all your help. I am off to bed. I'll have to get back to this in the morning.
  • [07:40:34] <ka6sox> cdrttn, why the reposts?
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  • [07:44:50] <cdrttn> it was unintentional. my mouse is broken
  • [07:45:15] <mrpackethead> the BBB has certianly got things busy
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  • [07:47:26] <ka6sox> mrpackethead, yup
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  • [07:52:40] <_av500_> BBBBusy
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  • [08:07:14] <mrpackethead> the other cahnnel is cranking
  • [08:07:23] <mrpackethead> #beagleboneblack
  • [08:13:31] <ka6sox> huh? who started that one?
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  • [08:53:55] <_av500_> its used to spread FUD by rpi people
  • [08:55:23] <dm8tbr> why would there be a need for a separate channel?
  • [08:56:05] <_av500_> diversity
  • [08:56:08] <_av500_> no?
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  • [08:58:44] <[1]segfault> good grief
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  • [08:58:57] <[1]segfault> okay, i cant use an initrd lol :P
  • [08:59:22] <[1]segfault> had to use initramfs, but i solved my non-boot issue, if the kernel is over ~6MB the FDT gets ignore
  • [08:59:24] <[1]segfault> ignored*
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  • [09:00:50] <_av500_> ?
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  • [10:46:36] <mrpackethead> are we back
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  • [10:49:18] <[2]segfault> epic splits bros
  • [10:49:22] <[2]segfault> i did it
  • [10:49:22] <[2]segfault> :D
  • [10:49:31] <[2]segfault> i got my software running on both the beaglebone and beaglebone black
  • [10:49:34] <[2]segfault> one image :
  • [10:49:36] <[2]segfault> :D
  • [10:50:37] <woglinde> segfault fine
  • [10:52:22] <[2]segfault> after fighting with the beaglebone black for like 3 days... i figured out the kernel has problems dealing with the FDT if the kernel is > 6MBish
  • [10:53:48] <[2]segfault> im so happy
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  • [12:52:10] <KotH> hmm...4k5USD for an quartz oscillator... really cheap..
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  • [13:16:06] <Chuck__> hello
  • [13:17:36] <mru> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.ports.arm/12410
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  • [13:24:27] <woglinde> script.fex
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  • [13:28:58] <jkroon> Anyone knows where DTS syntax is described ? I dont get the syntax "x : y { }"
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  • [13:30:33] <KotH> the ppc people have a document that describes the format
  • [13:31:11] <mru> but won't that be big endian?
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  • [13:31:46] <KotH> jkroon: https://www.power.org/resources/downloads/Power_ePAPR_APPROVED_v1.0.pdf
  • [13:31:54] <KotH> mru: as long as it is not UCS-2 :)
  • [13:32:41] <mru> surrogate pairs ftw
  • [13:32:52] <jkroon> KotH, thanks.. but.. sigh.. I need an account to download it
  • [13:33:48] <KotH> gimme a sec
  • [13:34:04] <mru> surely there's a direct link hiding somewhere
  • [13:34:56] <KotH> jkroon: http://attila.kinali.ch/Power_ePAPR_APPROVED_v1.0.pdf
  • [13:35:45] <jkroon> KotH, thanks, I appreciate it
  • [13:37:34] * KotH knows why he keeps a collection of pdfs
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  • [14:29:32] <eikeon> Getting further and further but stuck again at http://pastebin.com/0q6Vww7k -- wondering if my console is being switched to something else re: "Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48". As I'm only connected via my TTL cable. I don't have an hdmi display here.
  • [14:29:51] <eikeon> e an hdmi display here.
  • [14:29:59] <jkroon> The LCD3 cape has a "pwms" property in the backlight DTS node, but I can't find it referenced anywhere in pwl_bl.c, the linux driver
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  • [15:47:06] <SpeedEvil> hello. can anyone tell me about black power?
  • [15:47:08] <SpeedEvil> err
  • [15:47:16] <SpeedEvil> beagle black power use
  • [15:47:23] <SpeedEvil> especially idle.
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  • [16:30:05] <sandy87> how to connect i2c devic
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  • [16:40:55] <sandy34> hai
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  • [16:44:50] <sandy34> is anyone alive
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  • [16:46:15] <_av500_> no
  • [16:46:27] <mru> undead is the best you can hope for here
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  • [16:50:32] <m_billybob> SpeedEvil, its listed in the SRM pdf
  • [16:50:45] <m_billybob> 460ma max without any capes as i recall but . . .
  • [16:50:57] <m_billybob> you should check for yourself
  • [16:53:47] <Spirilis> yeah 460mA sounds right
  • [16:53:52] <Spirilis> it's just under 500
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  • [17:44:17] <Tekrad> is there a listing of the opkg contents in a manifest or some other location?
  • [17:49:03] <dm8tbr> av500: one for your t - http://pr0gramm.com/#newest/*/98674/2013/05/mr-t-tea-bag
  • [17:49:33] <dm8tbr> this one is old: http://pr0gramm.com/#newest/*/98659/2013/05/636x460design-01
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  • [18:01:38] <mranostay> morning trolls
  • [18:02:10] <_troll_> greetings mranostay
  • [18:02:40] <Turl> mourning, as ka6sox-away would say
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  • [18:03:23] <Tekrad> is there a listing of the opkg contents in a manifest or some other location?
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  • [18:13:29] <SpeedEvil> m_billybob: yeah, it lists idle as TBD though
  • [18:14:09] <SpeedEvil> so was wondering if someone with hardware had measured.
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  • [18:38:37] <mranostay> koen: dutch due
  • [18:38:40] <mranostay> *dude
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  • [18:41:51] <_av500_> SpeedEvil: I can measure tomororw
  • [18:41:53] <_av500_> remind e
  • [18:41:55] <_av500_> me
  • [18:42:18] <_av500_> wow, gpl-violations has dismembered itself mostly
  • [18:42:53] <SpeedEvil> sigh.
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  • [18:43:25] <SpeedEvil> I noticed lots of spam, but didn't read.
  • [18:43:46] <SpeedEvil> -av: thanks!
  • [18:44:14] <SpeedEvil> wondering from a battery life perspective.
  • [18:44:56] <_av500_> well, for battery life you want to sleep
  • [18:45:02] <_av500_> as much as possible
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  • [18:45:27] <_av500_> I think bradfa knows a lot about that
  • [18:45:36] <_av500_> including the woes to wake up
  • [18:45:40] <SpeedEvil> of course.
  • [18:46:06] <SpeedEvil> but you also need the hardware to support the various sleep modes.
  • [18:46:48] <SpeedEvil> my other omap system does 2mA suspend, and 4 mA idle.
  • [18:48:03] <_av500_> sounds about right
  • [18:48:29] <SpeedEvil> @4.2
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  • [18:53:19] <_av500_> yeah
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  • [18:54:27] <Bumble-Bee> Hello all, just got my BBB but am having some issues getting it onto the latest image, is there any known issues with that image / process ?
  • [18:55:05] <Bumble-Bee> the image it shipped with had a problem that didnt let me on to SSH, hens the update
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  • [18:56:53] <_av500_> unless you describe your issue, we cannot help
  • [18:57:11] <_av500_> ssh via network or via browser?
  • [18:57:16] <Bumble-Bee> both
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  • [18:57:34] <_av500_> mranostay: ping
  • [18:57:45] <Bumble-Bee> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
  • [18:57:50] <Bumble-Bee> on both
  • [18:57:55] <mru> _av500_: browser ssh works without network?
  • [18:58:07] <_av500_> mranostay: can you comment on the ML about "How to reliably activate PRUSS on beaglebone?"
  • [18:58:38] <_av500_> mru: yes, if you run it locally
  • [18:58:39] <_av500_> :)
  • [18:58:47] <Bumble-Bee> i read on the forum that some had success in fixing that by updating to the latest RLS
  • [18:59:06] <mru> _av500_: localhost?
  • [18:59:19] <Bumble-Bee> but ATM iv left it updating for ~1h and its still flashing the LED's
  • [18:59:23] <_av500_> Bumble-Bee: this one worked for me: BBB-eMMC-flasher-2013.05.02.img
  • [18:59:37] <_av500_> there might be later ones too
  • [18:59:48] <_av500_> load, write to SD, insert, boot
  • [18:59:53] <_av500_> wait until all LEDs are ON
  • [18:59:57] <_av500_> remove, reboot
  • [18:59:58] <MH> there exists this on the pru for BBB: http://github.jfet.org/BBKNotes2.html
  • [19:01:20] <Bumble-Bee> _av500_ i dont see that one listed. http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/ and http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Updating_The_Software
  • [19:01:20] <_av500_> MH: yes, I was referring to that
  • [19:01:41] <MH> Bumble-Bee I don't think it entered the update process. i went throug a similar issue where I couln't tell if it was updating or not. I let it sit for hours and no progress.
  • [19:02:09] <Bumble-Bee> humm
  • [19:02:46] <_av500_> ake yure you power cycle
  • [19:02:50] <_av500_> make sure
  • [19:02:54] <_av500_> not just reset
  • [19:02:59] <_av500_> to boot from SD
  • [19:03:04] <_av500_> and hold the boot button
  • [19:03:06] <Bumble-Bee> yeah i pull the 5v
  • [19:03:11] <Bumble-Bee> hold boot
  • [19:03:16] <_av500_> ok
  • [19:03:16] <MH> av500 say that part again about power cycle
  • [19:03:16] <Bumble-Bee> plug in 5v
  • [19:03:27] <Bumble-Bee> and hold untill the lights start to flash
  • [19:03:33] <Bumble-Bee> :P
  • [19:03:33] <_av500_> MH: your log cannot repeat it for you?
  • [19:04:41] <MH> av500 yes I just wanted you to rephrase it. Do you have to hold the power button and the boot button on start up?
  • [19:05:06] <_av500_> no
  • [19:05:18] <_av500_> you have to hard power cylce to get the SYSBOOT pins read
  • [19:05:25] <_av500_> aka the boot button
  • [19:05:26] <_av500_> S2
  • [19:05:28] <MH> gotcha
  • [19:06:05] <_av500_> Bumble-Bee: ok, seems 04-13 is the latest "public" one
  • [19:06:16] <Bumble-Bee> lol av500 / MH on 2nd attempt it just went to all 4 LED's solid
  • [19:06:28] <_av500_> after a while I assume?
  • [19:06:35] <Bumble-Bee> but now the serial wont enumerate :)
  • [19:06:41] <_av500_> serial?
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  • [19:06:47] <_av500_> you on bone or black?
  • [19:06:50] <_av500_> black
  • [19:06:55] <Bumble-Bee> black
  • [19:07:01] <_av500_> what serial?
  • [19:07:03] <Bumble-Bee> the network over USB stuff :P
  • [19:07:10] <_av500_> ah
  • [19:07:12] <MH> reboot with no SD in I think is the next step
  • [19:07:21] <_av500_> yes
  • [19:07:26] <Bumble-Bee> doh
  • [19:07:50] <Bumble-Bee> ill have to let it reflash again, was in such a rush i forgot to pull the SD card :P
  • [19:08:01] <_av500_> ?
  • [19:08:03] <_av500_> no
  • [19:08:04] <_av500_> just reboot
  • [19:08:10] <_av500_> why reflash?
  • [19:08:16] <_av500_> ah, its flashing agin
  • [19:08:18] <_av500_> well duh
  • [19:08:20] <Bumble-Bee> yeah :P
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  • [19:09:56] <Bumble-Bee> i feel like a noob on this platform :)
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  • [19:20:28] <MH> So has anyone written other distros besides the angstrom unto the emmc
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  • [19:21:36] <_av500_> I dont have
  • [19:21:53] <_av500_> and angstrom was only for a test
  • [19:22:25] <_av500_> I happily run off SD
  • [19:23:04] <MH> I was wondering is there any reason to not run off SD as opposed to the onboard emmc? I don't know much about the benefits and drawbacks.
  • [19:23:11] <_av500_> the emmc is faster
  • [19:23:19] <MH> that was my assumption
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  • [19:23:23] <_av500_> and 2GB emmc was cheap to put
  • [19:23:35] <_av500_> but then for most use cases, the speed is not really an issue
  • [19:23:45] <_av500_> unless you run ubuntu
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  • [19:24:12] <_av500_> i'd have traded emmc for the onboard ftdi
  • [19:24:13] <MH> what do you mean about ubuntu, is it slow?
  • [19:24:19] <_av500_> its a desktop OS
  • [19:24:26] <_av500_> doing all these desktoppy things
  • [19:24:42] <MH> ah yes, well put.
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  • [19:24:47] <_av500_> people found it slow on beagle and panda
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  • [19:24:57] <_av500_> especially with slow SD cards
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  • [19:25:03] <mru> and on i7 machines
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  • [19:25:15] <MH> are there the same problems with debian
  • [19:25:17] <Sophira> Hiya.
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  • [19:25:30] <Sophira> Are there any distributors for the BeagleBone Black in the UK?
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  • [19:25:59] <SpeedEvil> Darnell
  • [19:26:06] <SpeedEvil> Darnell
  • [19:26:13] <SpeedEvil> farnell
  • [19:26:16] <SpeedEvil> grr
  • [19:26:19] <mru> aka element14
  • [19:27:04] <Sophira> Awesome, thanks. :D
  • [19:27:23] <Bumble-Bee> MH im planning on putting arch onto the EMMC
  • [19:28:31] <_av500_> or digikey
  • [19:29:33] <ptan> MH: I like the eMMC, it makes it "cleaner" so that people won't accidentally remove the sd card in my applications.
  • [19:30:03] <SpeedEvil> dihikey has nasty shipping costs for small orders
  • [19:30:12] <_av500_> order big
  • [19:30:14] <Bumble-Bee> im hoping that the black is better than the rPi for USB focused tasks
  • [19:30:26] <Bumble-Bee> like webcam stuff :P
  • [19:30:45] <MH> ptan Yea I would prefer for my system to run off the emmc for the same reasons
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  • [19:31:23] <Sophira> I'm hoping to it, among other things, as a first step into USB development. I assume Linux's USB widgets support works fine?
  • [19:31:35] <MH> Bumble-Bee I haven't used arch much, all I know it is somewhat minimalist. Maybe that is what I should use.
  • [19:31:44] <Sophira> Sorry, gadgets.
  • [19:31:50] <Sophira> (Wrong name, oops :D)
  • [19:32:35] <Bumble-Bee> MH thats why i use it, only install what you need :)
  • [19:32:42] <_av500_> Sophira: yep
  • [19:32:46] <MH> speedevil I've always had good luck with digi key, I just have to make sure I use the right shipping supplier and get it for as cheap as anywhere else
  • [19:33:14] <_av500_> I always got free shipping on digikey to germany
  • [19:33:26] <_av500_> but I always ordered >$60 or so
  • [19:33:37] <_av500_> whatever the threshold was
  • [19:33:38] <SpeedEvil> quite.
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  • [19:34:23] <ptan> _av500_: digikey free shipping for Canada is $200, but shipping is only $8, so a lot of times I just pay the $8
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  • [19:35:07] <_av500_> 65??? for me
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  • [19:35:14] <_av500_> so, order 2 blacks
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  • [19:36:47] <vvu|Mobile> _av500_: what is the delivery time of digikey ?
  • [19:36:59] <ptan> Bumble-Bee: I'm hoping that the black fixed the USB webcam DMA issue with the white (USB cameras need kernel compiled with polled xfers, not DMA on the white)
  • [19:38:22] <Sophira> I'm guessing that the difference between BB-BBLK-000 and BB-BBLK-000-ND is the onboard JTAG support? (Assuming ND means "No Debug"?)
  • [19:38:35] <Bumble-Bee> ptan iv never used the white :/ i just know that the USB on the pi is useless :P
  • [19:39:34] <Bumble-Bee> all i want is something that can get webcam images at more than 160x120 px and at something better than 5fps :P
  • [19:39:46] <MH> I have been looking for high resolution cameras(>=8mp) for the bone and haven't come accross anything good for the bone. Does anyone have a preferred camera type?
  • [19:41:35] <Bumble-Bee> i can test a 4MP webcam
  • [19:41:58] <ptan> Bumble-Bee: I was able to get openCV blob detection at 320x240 at 10fps on iMX.53 board, I couldn't even get it working on white, so I'm hoping that I can with the black
  • [19:42:37] <Bumble-Bee> ptan hah thats very close to what i had on the Pi
  • [19:42:39] <ptan> the iMx.53 boards costs wayyyy too much..
  • [19:42:48] <Bumble-Bee> bat 160x120 @ 5ish fps
  • [19:42:55] <Bumble-Bee> -- bar
  • [19:43:16] <Bumble-Bee> anything better than that times out or is a blank image :P
  • [19:43:19] <MH> has any one tried GigE cameras on the bone?
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  • [19:46:12] <mru> do you have a magical GbE bone?
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  • [19:46:27] <MH> mru no :(
  • [19:47:22] <MH> mru I haven't worked with the GbE cameras, i didn't know if there was a way to throttle back the baud rate
  • [19:48:11] <mru> a sufficiently fancy camera will have controls for resolution and bitrate
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  • [19:51:18] <ptan> Sophira: I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that the ND is just there to indicate that it is a Digikey part number.
  • [19:51:33] <MH> that is correct ND = digikey
  • [19:51:44] <mru> there is only one model of the board
  • [19:52:09] <mru> and so far only one revision
  • [19:52:28] <mru> not counting revs that didn't go on sale
  • [19:54:04] <ka6sox-away> mranostay, http://elinux.org/Ti_AM33XX_PRUSSv2#Beaglebone_PRU_connections_and_modes:
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  • [19:55:15] <SilicaGe1> woah
  • [19:55:16] <SilicaGe1> somebody said PRU
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  • [19:56:08] <Bumble-Bee> root@beaglebone:~# :D
  • [19:56:29] <SilicaGe1> Unknown command :D
  • [19:56:40] <Bumble-Bee> cheers for the help _av500_
  • [19:56:47] <Bumble-Bee> and everyone else
  • [19:57:33] <ka6sox-away> morning SilicaGe
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  • [19:58:44] <_av500_> ptan: its the same SoC, so the same USB (issues)
  • [19:59:00] <SilicaGe1> av500: :(
  • [19:59:06] <SilicaGe1> that was not what i was hoping to hear
  • [19:59:28] <ptan> _av500_: ugghh... was the DMA problem ever fixed for USB webcams?
  • [19:59:40] <_av500_> I dont know
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  • [20:00:38] <ptan> last I heard from Jeff Lance on Dec 4, 2012 was that We???ve had multiple issues with the DMA and now we have a better understanding of the issues.
  • [20:00:41] <ptan> 1: We have an issue with multiple USB peripherals attached through a hub. We made an attempt to fix these issues through PG 2.0 of the AM335x device, but it is not resolved yet.
  • [20:00:45] <ptan> 2: There is a second issue where if your use case involves repeated turning on/off of the camera, the DMA can lose sync
  • [20:01:05] <ptan> I never followed up because I got busy, was hoping it was fixed.
  • [20:01:36] <MH> Bumble-Bee how long does flashing the emmc actually take? is 45 minutes about right? Is there anyway to tell during the flashing process that it is working properly.
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  • [20:03:02] <Bumble-Bee> MH mine saw about 40min
  • [20:03:21] <Bumble-Bee> for the first 5min there was constant SD card activity
  • [20:03:33] <Bumble-Bee> then after that just CPU / EMMC flashing lights
  • [20:05:10] <Bumble-Bee> when it was done all LED where on constantly
  • [20:05:54] <_av500_> MH: no
  • [20:06:01] <_av500_> unless you log in and watch df output
  • [20:06:05] <_av500_> which is what I did
  • [20:06:40] <MH> I guess I'll have to patient, my board could be flashing now or it could be doing something random...
  • [20:07:29] <Bumble-Bee> _av500_ the SD vs EMMC write LED are good indicators are wether its doing anuthing
  • [20:07:37] <Bumble-Bee> as afaik its not just an image copy
  • [20:07:54] <Bumble-Bee> it copys the files over and then does some setup on the EMMC
  • [20:07:57] <_av500_> yes
  • [20:08:29] <_av500_> its the script in /usr/bin/emmc.sh
  • [20:08:37] <_av500_> that is run
  • [20:11:49] <MH> av500 what is it that you monitor from the df output to know it is working
  • [20:12:03] <Bumble-Bee> the free space on /
  • [20:12:05] <_av500_> free size on the emmc
  • [20:12:07] <Bumble-Bee> i guess :P
  • [20:12:08] <_av500_> going down
  • [20:12:13] <_av500_> yup
  • [20:13:00] <MH> yay it must be working then as it is slowly dropping
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  • [20:13:50] <Bumble-Bee> would be cool if the "install" image used the serial net tunnel to give you a webinterface for the install ;)
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  • [20:17:16] <Bumble-Bee> humm
  • [20:17:18] <Bumble-Bee> strange
  • [20:17:37] <Bumble-Bee> my arch sd card starts to load then the device powers off :P
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  • [20:25:52] <_av500_> usb?
  • [20:26:00] <_av500_> you need the magic i2c command
  • [20:26:40] <_av500_> uenvcmd=i2c mw 0x24 1 0x3e
  • [20:28:31] <SpeedEvil> that turns on the carebear stare.
  • [20:28:38] <Turl> hey Bumble-Bee :)
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  • [20:29:55] <Bumble-Bee> Turl ohiya :D
  • [20:31:46] <ptan> _av500_: nice magic i2c command, just reading up on it on your past irc log of 2013-03-26
  • [20:33:41] <_av500_> ignore everything I said ever on irc
  • [20:36:41] <Bumble-Bee> Turl how long you been in here ?
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  • [20:38:39] <Turl> $ ls ~/.znc/users/*/moddata/log/*beagle_*|head -n1|sed 's/[^0-9]//g'
  • [20:38:39] <Turl> 20130416
  • [20:39:00] <Turl> so, like two weeks :)
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  • [20:46:15] <ptan> It's the hotel california, you can never leave...
  • [20:46:31] <mranostay> can i leave the state?
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  • [20:48:22] <_av500_> tri state?
  • [20:48:30] <_av500_> if you get pinmuxing right, yes
  • [20:48:47] <Bumble-Bee> Turl sweet
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  • [20:49:55] <Bumble-Bee> ptan just tested 320x240 openCV image processing from webcam
  • [20:50:19] <Bumble-Bee> colour slice + blob detection is the extent of the code and got 14-16fps
  • [20:51:19] <ptan> Bumble-Bee: that was on an iMx.53 board, and only got 10fps
  • [20:51:42] <ptan> did that a year ago.
  • [20:51:42] <Bumble-Bee> 6fps at 640x480 :)
  • [20:51:54] <Bumble-Bee> ptan this is on the black :) stock image
  • [20:52:07] <ptan> you got that on the black!! whoo-hoo!!
  • [20:52:11] <ptan> cool!!!
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  • [20:52:52] <ptan> usb webcam? Which model?
  • [20:53:08] <Bumble-Bee> yeah usb webcam
  • [20:53:15] <Bumble-Bee> crappy old creative vista live
  • [20:53:34] <ptan> cool... will try it as soon as I finish debugging this cape.
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  • [20:54:06] <ptan> (have too many things hooked up to it right now)
  • [20:54:27] <_av500_> who the fuck put a pdf viewer in firefox?
  • [20:54:47] <mru> funny you should say that
  • [20:54:59] <_av500_> it was not me
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  • [20:56:24] <Bumble-Bee> ptan ill try and optimise the code a bit as well
  • [20:56:30] <Bumble-Bee> but after i get arch booting
  • [20:56:45] <_av500_> Bumble-Bee: how many fps do you get doing nothing?
  • [20:56:56] <ptan> Bumble-Bee: did you do c++ or python?
  • [20:56:56] <_av500_> even not using openCV
  • [20:58:36] <Turl> _av500_: see it as a positive thing, nobody needs to install a security hole to view pdfs on windows
  • [20:58:43] <Turl> err, I mean, adobe reader
  • [20:59:20] <Turl> s/windows/windows anymore/
  • [20:59:27] <jkroon> i want to patch the existing am335x-bone.dts file.. Can I just append a new root node in that file, and write like "ocp { ... }", and that would then get merged with the root nodes previously defined ?
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  • [21:00:49] <_av500_> Turl: I see it as: please do one thing and do it right
  • [21:01:19] <_av500_> what is next, open office?
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  • [21:01:31] <Turl> _av500_: it's implemented in javascript anyway
  • [21:01:33] <Turl> _av500_: pdf.js
  • [21:01:36] <_av500_> omg
  • [21:02:01] <Turl> https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/
  • [21:02:31] * mru implements a javascript interpreter in postscript
  • [21:04:11] <mru> Turl: is that what comes with ff20?
  • [21:04:32] <mru> I certainly did not install any extension for it
  • [21:04:36] <_av500_> wtf, it does not have "search"?
  • [21:04:54] <_av500_> ah, stock ctrl -f
  • [21:04:58] <zeebar> working pru for bbb anybody? have uio_pruss mod loaded but nothing in /sys/class/uio, pruss examples fail with "prussdrv_open open failed"
  • [21:05:21] <mru> wtf, everybody knows / is the standard key for search
  • [21:05:29] <mru> that or ctrl-s
  • [21:06:36] <Turl> ctrl-find is search on all the things I can remember
  • [21:06:55] <_av500_> well, searching takes ages
  • [21:07:02] <_av500_> as expected wit ha js solution
  • [21:07:03] <mru> I can only remember emacs and vi
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  • [21:07:09] <_av500_> fail
  • [21:07:18] <_av500_> does not work for TRMs
  • [21:07:22] <_av500_> begone
  • [21:07:32] <mru> and it crashes the entire browser too
  • [21:07:39] <mru> see g+ for details
  • [21:07:42] <_av500_> thats a precaution
  • [21:08:15] <Turl> you can disable and use evince or whatever you use if you don't like it
  • [21:08:30] <mru> eeeeew
  • [21:08:34] <Turl> I've read AW datasheets with it and it worked okay, search was slow indeed
  • [21:08:40] <Bumble-Bee> _av500_ ill test that in a second :)
  • [21:08:52] <Bumble-Bee> ptan C / C++
  • [21:08:52] <mru> the googledocs pdf viewer is better
  • [21:08:58] <_av500_> of course
  • [21:09:01] <_av500_> its not written in js
  • [21:09:07] <mru> it searches quickly too
  • [21:09:15] <mru> can't copy text to clipboard though
  • [21:09:25] <_av500_> I disabled it in chrome too
  • [21:09:45] <mru> I disabled chromme too
  • [21:09:57] <mru> can't render fonts properly
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  • [21:12:25] <_av500_> work fine for comic sans here
  • [21:12:29] <_av500_> +s
  • [21:12:47] <mru> I doubt it has any kerning tables
  • [21:14:23] <_av500_> only Kermit tales
  • [21:14:24] <Turl> _av500_: are you blind? otherwise I dunno how you can handle the pain
  • [21:14:44] <_av500_> ?
  • [21:15:18] <_av500_> ah no, its not for me, it's for my users, I use IE6 myself
  • [21:15:18] <Turl> comic sans joke, nevermind
  • [21:15:37] <slug> simple question, where can i find the serial port pinout, ie, where the rx,tx pins are?
  • [21:15:45] <_av500_> in the schematics
  • [21:15:54] <_av500_> now ask where to find those
  • [21:16:31] <slug> _av500_: no need, thanks ;) i tried the SRM, it would be nice to have it there.
  • [21:16:37] <_av500_> they are in the SRM
  • [21:16:40] <_av500_> at the end
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  • [21:17:17] <_av500_> SRM contains schematics
  • [21:19:04] <slug> _av500_: i did a quick search there for "serial" and it doesn't show any pinout
  • [21:19:49] <slug> _av500_: in the schematics i can find it easily
  • [21:19:54] <_av500_> oh
  • [21:19:58] <_av500_> BBB SRM hasd no schematics
  • [21:20:04] <_av500_> old BB srm had
  • [21:20:17] <_av500_> and yes, the pinout could be given in the serial debug section
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  • [21:20:21] <_av500_> write to the ML
  • [21:20:29] <_av500_> and point that out
  • [21:21:27] <Bumble-Bee> i noticed that there was no pinout
  • [21:21:31] <Bumble-Bee> on the diagrams
  • [21:21:35] <_av500_> write to the ML
  • [21:21:36] <_av500_> and point that out
  • [21:22:29] <_av500_> night all
  • [21:22:30] <_av500_> 73
  • [21:23:20] <slug> _av500_: thanks, good night
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  • [21:37:36] <MH> so trying to get the Black PRU up and running. I think I am close, yet when I go to compile I get the following error message:
  • [21:37:56] <MH> "/usr/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.7.3/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: error: ../../app_loader/lib/libprussdrv.a(prussdrv.o) uses VFP register arguments, ../bin/PRU_memAccess_DDR_PRUsharedRAM does not"
  • [21:38:38] <MH> I think it is trying to use a cross compiler for the PRU? anyone seen something like this
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  • [21:38:57] <Turl> is it arm?
  • [21:39:16] <MH> I am running the latest update of the angstrom distro
  • [21:39:24] <Turl> I mean the PRU
  • [21:39:35] <mru> MH: you're mixing floating-point ABIs
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  • [21:40:06] <Turl> you can try building with -msoft-float if it is
  • [21:40:10] <mru> make sure you use the same -mfloat-abi flag for everything
  • [21:40:13] <mru> Turl: NOOOOOO
  • [21:40:35] <Turl> mru: why not?
  • [21:40:56] <mru> this error has nothing to do with the pru as such
  • [21:41:07] <mru> the PRU is not an ARM btw
  • [21:41:30] <MH> this is just an issue of the way I am compiling, right?
  • [21:41:51] <mru> but blindly adding -msoft-float can only do one of two things: 1) make things break, or 2) make things *slow*
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  • [21:42:39] <Turl> mru: well, 1) happened already and 2) is better than 1)
  • [21:42:54] <mru> that's where you're wrong
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  • [21:43:29] <MH> -mfload-abi is leaving me with the same error, I am a little confused on these floating point ABIs. new to me.
  • [21:44:22] <mru> MH: build everything with -mfloat-abi=hard
  • [21:44:33] <mru> or just use the compiler default by omitting the flag entirely
  • [21:50:14] <MH> mru hmm I think I am getting the same error, still trying...
  • [21:50:28] <mru> MH: that means you're still mixing flags
  • [21:51:05] <MH> yea i think my flags are a mess :/ my linker flags at the moment are:
  • [21:51:12] <MH> -Wall -D__DEBUG -O2 -mtune=cortex-a8 -march=armv7-a -lprussdrv -lpthread -mfloat-abi=hard
  • [21:51:40] <mru> -mfloat-abi is a compiler, not linker, flag
  • [21:52:01] <MH> o.O goog to know I was trying in both places
  • [21:52:12] <mru> it doesn't hurt to use it when linking too
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  • [21:52:33] <mru> irrelevant flags are simply ignored
  • [21:52:54] <MH> so compiler flags I have: -c -Wall -mfloat-abi=hard
  • [21:53:07] <solrize> yay i got my board. i notice it has a 5v barrel connector, it's been a while since i saw one of those. can i power it from a usb wall wart (2 amp capable) through the micro usb port?
  • [21:53:30] <mru> MH: then you're linking with something previously built that uses the other abi
  • [21:53:50] <mru> solrize: you can power it over usb
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  • [21:54:12] <mru> but using the barrel connector is preferable if you want to attach any usb devices
  • [21:54:16] <MH> That is a good possibility, I will try to rebuild all of the PRU components
  • [21:54:25] <mru> usb hub power supplies usually have the right plug
  • [21:55:00] <solrize> thanks right now the only 5v ps i have is the wall wart
  • [21:55:16] <solrize> i will try to get one of those plugs someplace
  • [21:55:40] <solrize> and wire it up to a usb/d plug i guess
  • [21:56:17] <mru> your nearest fry's or rs should have a complete power supply with suitable plug
  • [21:56:23] <mru> or you can get one from wherever you got the beagle
  • [21:58:03] <solrize> well i already have the wart, might as well use it instead of buying another.
  • [21:58:34] <mru> you can never have too many power supplies
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  • [21:58:51] <mru> I have a crate full of spare ones
  • [21:59:09] <mru> that's after using 15 or so
  • [22:01:37] <MH> mru thank you I now have my PRU up and running on the black
  • [22:02:02] <mru> great
  • [22:02:32] <mru> the error messages are a bit cryptic when that happens
  • [22:03:10] <Bumble-Bee> humm
  • [22:03:19] <Bumble-Bee> anyone got arch running on the BBB ?
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  • [22:03:33] <mru> the way it works is that the first object file encountered by the linker decides the abi, and if any others disagree it prints that error
  • [22:04:00] <MH> Yes, it turns out my .a files libprussdrv.a and libprussdrvd.a were out of date from a previous build. Deleting and rebuillding solved it.
  • [22:04:00] <mru> Bumble-Bee: the arch maintainers, presumably
  • [22:04:58] <Bumble-Bee> mru well yeah :P
  • [22:05:13] <Bumble-Bee> just wondeing about others
  • [22:05:36] <Bumble-Bee> mine wont seem to boot to arch with an ethernat cable plugged it
  • [22:05:55] <Bumble-Bee> LEDs flash for a few seconds then it just switches off :/
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  • [22:06:20] <Bumble-Bee> cant see it being a power issue
  • [22:06:33] <Bumble-Bee> as its on a 2.1Amp usb charger / psu
  • [22:06:37] <mru> do you have the serial console connected?
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  • [22:07:46] <Bumble-Bee> no
  • [22:07:52] <mru> you should
  • [22:07:53] <Bumble-Bee> i only have a CP2102
  • [22:08:04] <mru> first rule of debugging
  • [22:08:17] <Bumble-Bee> yeah
  • [22:08:31] <Bumble-Bee> A i cant fins a pinout for the ttl pins
  • [22:08:46] <Bumble-Bee> B not really sure is the CP2102 will work :P
  • [22:08:50] <Bumble-Bee> -- if
  • [22:08:55] <Turl> Bumble-Bee: is it a phone charger or a real psu?
  • [22:09:10] <Turl> some require usb negotiation to get the higher amps I hear
  • [22:09:12] <Bumble-Bee> Turl N7 charger
  • [22:09:35] <Bumble-Bee> ill grab the tf201 charger
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  • [22:12:12] <mrpackethead> was there anyone who was interested in the BBC cape ?
  • [22:12:24] <mru> Bumble-Bee: cp2102 should work
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  • [22:16:12] <MH> don't know what the bbc cape is
  • [22:18:10] <MH> Beagle Bone Cape cape
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  • [22:20:55] <Bumble-Bee> Turl for some reason arch seems really unstable
  • [22:21:13] <mru> missing the keystone?
  • [22:21:31] <Bumble-Bee> like i got it to boot but it then died after a few moments
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  • [22:45:55] <mrpackethead> Bcc = Blank Canvas Cape
  • [22:45:58] <mrpackethead> its a FPGA
  • [22:47:01] <bwr> Hey all, I'm having difficulty ssh'ing into my BeagleBone Black
  • [22:47:28] <bwr> I'm in linux, and when I try via my openssh client I get "read: connection reset by peer"
  • [22:47:58] <bwr> when I try via gateone I get "connection closed by remote host"
  • [22:48:20] <bwr> I can access the web interface just fine
  • [22:50:03] <bwr> I've tried loading the most recent Angstrom image, but I've had issues with that as well.
  • [22:51:16] <solrize> http://www.adafruit.com/products/276#Description is this the right connector?
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  • [22:52:29] <solrize> i guess it shows a bb a6 in "may we suggest" so it looks good
  • [22:52:39] <solrize> and bbb too :)
  • [22:52:41] <solrize> ok bbl
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  • [22:54:55] <bwr> (when I try to run the latest Angstrom, I can't connect over ssh and after a while it seems to freeze, with D3 and D4 lit and the USB devices unresponsive)
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  • [22:55:38] <bwr> (in that case I also can't connect to the web interface; I don't know whether that's expected)
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  • [22:57:01] <bwr> should I be bothering someone else?
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  • [22:57:51] <Bumble-Bee> bwr have you updated to the latest image ?
  • [22:58:21] <bwr> no, I mentioned that I've tried and had issues
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  • [23:00:33] <Bumble-Bee> bwr how did you try and update ?
  • [23:01:52] <bwr> I unzipped the Angstrom image, used dd to copy it to my uSD, and attempted to boot from the uSD (by holding S2 during boot)
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  • [23:05:39] <trip9> does anyone know if gpu acceleration is achievable on the beaglebone with the 3.8.x kernel?
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  • [23:10:25] <bwr> is there some other way I can connect to try to debug my problem?
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  • [23:15:00] <levi> Serial would probably give early boot output.
  • [23:15:30] <bwr> can I watch the serial output via the usb port? or do I need a usb-to-ttl device?
  • [23:17:08] <levi> I believe you'd need the usb-to-ttl device, or alternatively you might be able to change your kernel option line to get the console log on a different device (like the video console).
  • [23:18:18] <bwr> ok, thanks
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