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  • [01:07:18] <ds2> k6sox: using diff addresses to respond?
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  • [01:42:52] <ka6sox> ds2, ???
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  • [02:01:23] <ka6sox> ds2, I was using a different client elsewhere.
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  • [02:47:04] <ds2> ~
  • [02:47:48] <ds2> ka6sox: ok....it is waiting for moderation. I don't have my pw or I'd approve it.
  • [03:12:56] <ka6sox> approve what?
  • [03:13:20] <ka6sox> my emails?
  • [03:15:21] <ka6sox> ds2, what *are* you talking about.
  • [03:17:52] <jkridner|work> koen: when you wake, I found why Gate One fails all the time. Maybe you already know, but it is because of the date setting.
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  • [05:41:38] <jkridner|work> koen: built squeak natively (required cmake) and am working on building it under OE.
  • [05:42:04] <jkridner|work> Scratch runs, but it is another app that kills metacity.
  • [05:42:20] <jkridner|work> (really need to find out why these apps are killing metacity) :(
  • [05:42:48] <jkridner|work> a couple of exceptions came up, but I couldn't read them because the terminal window was in the way (w/o a window manager to move it)
  • [05:45:18] <jkridner|work> SoundRecorder produced an error
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  • [05:52:58] <Shadyman> jkridner|work: It farted?
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  • [06:03:20] <johnsmith1> dm8tbr: are the sdcard mux boards available for purchase anywhere?
  • [06:04:06] <dm8tbr> johnsmith1: I'd try contacting dave either here on IRC or by email
  • [06:04:23] <dm8tbr> he's not here right now though. look for prplplague
  • [06:04:29] <johnsmith1> dm8tbr: ok thanks
  • [06:05:18] <dm8tbr> actually it's prpplague
  • [06:05:30] <johnsmith1> right
  • [06:05:36] <johnsmith1> dm8tbr: do you own one though ? :)
  • [06:05:44] <johnsmith1> i have only seen pictures on g+
  • [06:06:30] <_av500_> ahoi
  • [06:06:41] <mrpackethead> ioha
  • [06:07:09] <keesj> it's not no the tct site either (tin can tools)
  • [06:07:38] <dm8tbr> johnsmith1: not personally, but I've read the schematics and coleagues were supposed to pick one up from him during ELC. Haven't heard about that one though.
  • [06:08:26] <dm8tbr> consensus is that it's a good board and works well. it was designed for automated testing, so has to be reliable
  • [06:08:54] <_av500_> but again, tftpboot works probabyl as well
  • [06:09:05] <johnsmith1> dm8tbr: trick is is also to safely unmount
  • [06:09:07] <mrpackethead> are you talkinga bout black friday
  • [06:09:20] <johnsmith1> and does it switch on target reset or target power cycle?
  • [06:09:22] <dm8tbr> johnsmith1: which is just an exercise in programming
  • [06:09:35] <johnsmith1> dm8tbr: true
  • [06:09:56] <dm8tbr> IIRC it switches on supply voltage from target
  • [06:10:17] * dm8tbr goes to look for the schematic
  • [06:11:09] <johnsmith1> dm8tbr: no problem, /me is just about off to sleep. thanks for the info...
  • [06:11:15] <johnsmith1> night
  • [06:12:35] <dm8tbr> johnsmith1: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1FV_VIiqk4edlJ3czdqOHlHcUk/edit?usp=sharing
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  • [06:19:28] <Guest99751> Hi, I am extremely interested in the Project "Android-based boot host". Could you please provide some resources to get a deeper insight into the project? Thanks!
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  • [06:22:28] * _av500_ realizes he did not edit the wiki
  • [06:22:29] <ka6sox> whoops
  • [06:23:24] <_av500_> oh well
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  • [06:31:17] <_av500_> jkridner: there, edited
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  • [06:35:27] * dm8tbr loves the combination of extremely interested but can't be bothered to stick around longer than 2min
  • [06:36:15] <ka6sox> dm8tbr, I hope that was a web timeout
  • [06:39:14] <_av500_> most likely
  • [06:39:25] <_av500_> qualification task should be to get a n irc client installed
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  • [06:40:23] <mranostay> tizen all things!
  • [06:40:33] <ka6sox> _av500_, a real one?
  • [06:44:43] <mrpackethead> mranostay: settle.
  • [06:45:09] <mrpackethead> yes, Guest99991712 gives its away
  • [06:45:39] <koen> jkridner: still awake?
  • [06:45:56] <mrpackethead> is anyone actually awake
  • [06:46:08] <mranostay> buzzed so no
  • [06:46:21] <mrpackethead> 2006 Church Road Syrah.
  • [06:46:29] <mrpackethead> its particullary, good
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  • [07:47:13] <sunzun> hey, need some help
  • [07:47:36] <sunzun> I'm trying to do spi using c++ using the beaglebone
  • [07:47:48] <sunzun> do you guys know where I can find some resources on doing this?
  • [07:47:57] <sunzun> google search didn't turn up much unfortunately
  • [07:48:15] <sunzun> and I missed anything that might have beenon the beaglebone website
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  • [08:10:32] <aleek> hi! I want to enable DSP on my bb-xm. Some sources point enabling extra memory (i.e. mem=99M@0x80000000 in bootargs in u-boot) and some not. Which one is correct?
  • [08:16:07] <dm8tbr> what do you plan to do with the 'DSP'?
  • [08:16:51] <aleek> I plan to make an awesome videophone that uses DSP to produce x264 image from my webcam with gstreamer
  • [08:18:18] <aleek> but, till now I have more failures that succeses ;)
  • [08:18:24] <aleek> s/that/than
  • [08:18:50] <dm8tbr> ah, so you want to use the specialized cores with an video encoder
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  • [08:19:11] <aleek> yes
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  • [08:20:00] <dm8tbr> are there encoder binaries for OMAP3?
  • [08:20:05] <aleek> and I want to decode the incoming RTP-h264 stream from the other phone user
  • [08:20:59] <aleek> dm8tbr: it seems that there are no h264 enc binaries (only dec), but I saw people on the Internet doing this, so maybe I need to pay for the encoder
  • [08:21:14] <aleek> but yes, there are, I have mine in /lib/dsp
  • [08:21:48] * dm8tbr hasn't looked in a while
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  • [08:23:12] <dm8tbr> well whatever you have, you will need to use the exactly matching combination of kernel modules and software they are intended for
  • [08:24:02] <aleek> dm8tbr: btw you must assume, Im not using angstrorm if this makes a diffreence for you
  • [08:24:29] <aleek> Im using kernel from https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel and buildroot userland
  • [08:24:59] <aleek> ok, so I need to fit DSP binaries to matching kernel version, ok
  • [08:25:01] <dm8tbr> I _must_ nothing, I _may_ something
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  • [08:26:34] <dm8tbr> my previous statement stands. kernel module and software (e.g. gstreamer) needs to match whatever encoder/decoder binaries you have there
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  • [08:59:46] <Russ> koen, why would you ever name an image 'really-the-last-one'?
  • [09:05:59] <koen> because I was halfway my celebratory rum&coke
  • [09:06:21] <koen> which explains why I copied MLO over u-boot.img
  • [09:06:47] <koen> so the timings are problably working for 400MHz
  • [09:07:17] * koen suddenly remembers something
  • [09:07:38] <koen> Russ: I was asked to ask you to look into PMIC and powerbutton events for 3.8+
  • [09:07:49] <koen> apparently you boss was asked to allow you to work on it
  • [09:07:57] <koen> so many layers of indirection
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  • [09:49:39] <jkroon> koen, so, beagleboard 3.8 kernel is working ok now ?
  • [09:49:58] <jkroon> koen, I saw that you enabled it, disabled it, then in latest its re-enabled again ?
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  • [10:34:59] <_av500_> aleek: yes, you neeed the mem= stuff
  • [10:35:44] <aleek> _av500_: do you know why dsp-test works without it?:D
  • [10:36:02] <_av500_> it should not
  • [10:36:11] <_av500_> do you see cmem in lsmod?
  • [10:36:27] <_av500_> unless TI fixed CMEM to grab kernel mem at boot
  • [10:37:09] <aleek> no cmem in lsmod
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  • [10:38:04] <_av500_> ah
  • [10:38:05] <_av500_> stupid me
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  • [10:38:12] <_av500_> you are doing dspbridge
  • [10:38:15] <_av500_> not dsplink
  • [10:38:21] <_av500_> yes, that does not need cmem
  • [10:38:52] <_av500_> felipe's stuff
  • [10:39:30] <aleek> Im using gst-dsp. dspdummy works, but no other plugin. I need to spend more time with this
  • [10:39:44] <_av500_> right
  • [10:39:50] <_av500_> gst-dsp uses dspbridge
  • [10:41:39] <aleek> yes. Loading modules (mailbox, mailboxmach and tidspbridge with baseimage works well - no errors) but using any gst-dsp element ends with dsp node create failed
  • [10:41:46] <_av500_> ah
  • [10:42:02] <aleek> gst-dsp have proper SN_API regarding to README
  • [10:42:26] <aleek> (L23.i3.8: SN_API=2)
  • [10:42:34] <_av500_> I think I forgot already everything I knew about dspbridge :)
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  • [10:45:36] * dm8tbr successfully ignored that :)
  • [10:45:42] <_av500_> koen: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-24UN5YkFNgw/UWfjjsLptBI/AAAAAAAAHvE/hYH08CxXUBw/w497-h373/383016_624165600944436_2076874257_n.png
  • [10:47:01] <jkroon_> woohoo sweden #2! SWEDEN! SWEDEN! SWEDEN!
  • [10:47:53] <jkroon_> gimme an 'S'! gimme a 'W'! etc
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  • [11:05:09] <Guest71144> Hi there. I have a Beaglebone Rev-A6 board. I need the exact version of the u-boot source that came along with the SD card. Can anyone help me ?
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  • [11:11:25] <jkroon_> koen, ok
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  • [14:31:54] <woglinde> action
  • [14:32:19] * alan_o claps board
  • [14:49:43] * koen turns on lights
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  • [14:55:35] <mru> *CUT*
  • [14:57:09] <jkridner|work> gm koen
  • [14:59:05] <jkridner|work> any thoughts on this 400MHz thing?
  • [14:59:23] * jkridner|work downloads latest 400MHz image.
  • [14:59:44] <mru> is that what the clock rate of the xm is down to now?
  • [15:00:26] <mru> after 1000, 800, 600, I guess 400 is the logical next step
  • [15:00:48] <jkridner|work> I thought Nishanth sent out ABB patches to get it back to 1GHz.
  • [15:00:59] <mru> did they get merged?
  • [15:04:22] <jkridner|work> looks like it needs a bit more feedback addressed: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg87623.html
  • [15:04:41] <mru> when I tried those patches, they did precisely nothing
  • [15:04:53] <mru> or the kernel panicked, I forget which
  • [15:06:37] <woglinde> picknick
  • [15:11:21] <jkridner|work> koen: is there any chance you picked up my work-around for GateOne not coming up when you boot over USB?
  • [15:11:33] <jkridner|work> I know I screwed up the patch pulling from the wrong tree. :(
  • [15:18:53] * _av500_ wonders what GateOne is
  • [15:19:00] <_av500_> is that the next thing after node.js?
  • [15:20:36] <woglinde> yes
  • [15:20:40] <woglinde> no
  • [15:20:47] <_av500_> file not found
  • [15:20:48] <woglinde> app based on node.js
  • [15:20:57] <_av500_> of course
  • [15:21:06] <woglinde> its many ssh in your browser frame
  • [15:21:21] <_av500_> OMG, it is full of ssh?
  • [15:21:30] <_av500_> or shh all the way down?
  • [15:21:37] <_av500_> or did they put ssh into ssh?
  • [15:21:45] <woglinde> you can open serval ssh session
  • [15:21:59] <woglinde> and see all in one browser window
  • [15:23:22] <_av500_> ...It requires no browser plugins and is built on top of a powerful plugin system...
  • [15:23:42] <_av500_> you dont need plugins for your plugins
  • [15:24:36] <woglinde> yes no plugins for node.js
  • [15:24:57] <woglinde> INSTALL it
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  • [15:29:14] <koen> _av500_: actually gateone is python, not nodejs based
  • [15:29:23] <koen> but still a shit ton of js client side
  • [15:30:05] <woglinde> koen okay thanks for clarification
  • [15:30:17] <_av500_> it has tetris
  • [15:32:18] <koen> jkridner|work: I'm fairly sure teh 400MHz problem is PEBKAC on my side
  • [15:32:31] <koen> jkridner|work: https://plus.google.com/100242854243155306943/posts/Pfeii7sUvLh
  • [15:32:59] <koen> jkridner|work: I now have a script to handle all that with error detection and reporting
  • [15:33:00] * jkridner|work breathes a sigh
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  • [15:33:33] <koen> jkridner|work: I did drag in bonescript and bone101 updates this morning
  • [15:33:34] <jkridner|work> waiting on my card to program right now. thanks for fixing up the URIs. :(
  • [15:34:22] <jkridner|work> yeah, it isn't great, but it avoids massively broken links now and there is a button to press to make GateOne "just work".
  • [15:34:23] <woglinde> haha nice
  • [15:34:49] <koen> woglinde: the problem is with certificates and clock being set to 2000 every boot
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  • [15:35:05] <jkridner|work> I'm going to kick off a clean build now to capture sources....
  • [15:35:14] <koen> jkridner|work: rtc driver is still broken, it doesn't actually write to the RTC, so you loose time even when doing warm boots
  • [15:35:15] <woglinde> no I meant copy u-boot as MLO
  • [15:35:18] <jkridner|work> is oebb able to pick up all the sources?
  • [15:35:39] <woglinde> hm so qemu-native build fixed
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  • [15:36:28] <jkridner|work> I was hoping to still pick up Scratch, but I think the couple of minor issues are too much to overcome. Cleaning up the default browser and providing a link to the 101 also would have been *huge* for the user experience.
  • [15:36:30] <koen> jkridner|work: I reorganized the source mirrors, but I haven't updated the URLs yet
  • [15:36:52] <koen> jkridner|work: for chrome we'd need to include some MIME registry things
  • [15:36:54] * jkridner|work wants to avoid GPL nightmares. :)
  • [15:37:04] <koen> chrome doesn't even have a .desktop by default
  • [15:37:26] <jkridner|work> btw, I think the logo looks nice.
  • [15:39:10] <koen> my apologies for the heavy jpeg compression
  • [15:39:21] <jkridner|work> squeak builds pretty easily.
  • [15:39:21] <koen> I mis clicked in gimp during an intermediate step
  • [15:40:51] <koen> jkridner|work: it was serendipity
  • [15:41:14] <koen> jkridner|work: I was debugging the wallpaper config crash gerald reported and it pointed me to the config file for it
  • [15:43:27] <koen> jkridner|work: what I'd like to do on monday is packaging stache
  • [15:43:44] <koen> jkridner|work: but I'd like a non nodejs twitter option if possible
  • [15:44:18] <koen> show picture on screen, save it when pressing a button
  • [15:44:32] <jkridner|work> tweeting is easy to do in lots of languages. good python examples exist.
  • [15:44:45] <jkridner|work> I haven't seen a really good C library.
  • [15:44:59] <jkridner|work> what is the opposition to nodejs?
  • [15:45:06] <jkridner|work> mranostay taunting?
  • [15:46:12] <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/155
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  • [15:47:16] <koen> jkridner|work: mostly size
  • [15:47:34] <jkridner|work> size of what? isn't it already installed?
  • [15:47:43] <koen> on the bone yes
  • [15:47:50] <koen> but e.g. xM is a different thing
  • [15:48:00] <koen> it's a nice sample app to use for teaching
  • [15:48:22] <jkridner|work> why not release a new SD card image for xM that has the same contents as Bone?
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  • [15:48:52] <jkridner|work> Getting the software at the same level is something I'd bust my ass for...
  • [15:49:33] <jkridner|work> it is embarrassing how long it has been since we've had a software refresh across Board, xM, and Bone.
  • [15:49:55] <koen> I worked on 3.8 for xM last week
  • [15:50:03] <koen> mainline is *$(*@($@*(@ broken
  • [15:50:11] <jkridner|work> I can't really teach people crap w/o having a consistent software expeirence.
  • [15:50:21] <koen> and our 3.8 kernel breaks a few non-DT paths
  • [15:50:25] <koen> and DT is broken for xM :(
  • [15:50:30] <jkridner|work> :(
  • [15:51:06] <jkridner|work> Can we get the idea down on GSoC and perhaps pull in a GSoC student or one of the TI co-ops to solve this summer?
  • [15:51:16] <koen> sure
  • [15:51:32] <_av500_> burn a student on broken DT?
  • [15:51:49] <jkridner|work> on getting mainline to work on xM.
  • [15:52:13] <_av500_> hopefully a snapshot of mainline
  • [15:52:15] <alan_o> that doesn't work anymore?
  • [15:52:19] <jkridner|work> is that not a care-about? don't you want to be able to pull your xM out of the drawer and use latest code on it?
  • [15:52:21] <_av500_> lest this turns into a decade of code
  • [15:52:24] <koen> and it has the similar DRM opengl issues
  • [15:52:45] <_av500_> jkridner|work: no, that should work of course
  • [15:52:45] <koen> jkridner|work: btw, what's the best way to (re)start the sgx ddk process for CCO?
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  • [15:53:18] <jkridner|work> I'll ping Adrian and copy you/Dave/Clint.
  • [15:53:28] <_av500_> koen: but XM could boot mainline without sgx for a start
  • [15:54:08] <koen> _av500_: sgx is a long way down the road and doesn't even feature in my goals for 3.8/3.10
  • [15:54:15] <_av500_> ic
  • [15:54:28] <_av500_> well, there is always libhybris for you
  • [15:54:54] <koen> I did consider that
  • [15:55:42] * _av500_ greps channel logs for his 3year old "just use android" quotes....
  • [15:56:09] <_av500_> koen: and TI has no recent sgx build?
  • [15:56:53] <_av500_> its not like omap3730 gets new sgx HW revisions every month
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  • [16:00:08] <mdp> detheridge should be able chime in on what is planned for sgx etc. 3.8+
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  • [16:04:21] <mdp> fwiw, doing the board-omap3beagle.c conversion sounds like a great project...though pretty big
  • [16:05:05] <mdp> scoped to things that are in pretty good shape for DT conversion, it might be doable
  • [16:06:20] <jkridner|work> given that we have a board.c, it is 100% that we want to make the switch over to DT, yes?
  • [16:06:47] <mdp> eventually it will be deleted for non-maintenance...so, yes
  • [16:07:00] <mdp> I'm not saying tomorrow...but eventually
  • [16:07:07] <alan_o> mdp: so we should make a couple of commits to "maintain" it?
  • [16:07:21] <mdp> it doesn't work that way
  • [16:07:32] <mru> alan_o: then it gets deleted due to churn
  • [16:07:43] <mdp> alan_o, ha
  • [16:08:14] <mdp> alan_o, it means that if boot from DT doesn't work, then after a certain point beagleboard is SOL
  • [16:08:43] <alan_o> maybe DT _can_ help us here.
  • [16:09:03] <mdp> help us, Luke DT-walker, you're our only hope
  • [16:09:15] <mdp> indeed it can
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  • [16:09:43] <mdp> most of it is very straightforward
  • [16:09:50] <mdp> just needs a person with time that cares
  • [16:13:17] <alan_o> mdp: those two are often mutually exclusive.
  • [16:13:23] <mdp> koen, out of curiousity, what's the first thing that breaks on beagle mainline DT boot?
  • [16:14:04] <alan_o> mdp: it just says "LI" and hangs
  • [16:14:06] <mdp> koen, I would guess mmc, possibly...there's been some missing patches for the omap parts
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  • [16:14:13] <mdp> alan_o, LOL!
  • [16:14:26] <mdp> alan_o, are you sure you aren't as old as me? ;)
  • [16:14:40] <alan_o> I'm not far off :)
  • [16:14:47] <mdp> fossil
  • [16:15:30] <mdp> ok, well, gotta run, but I'm curious, koen, if you can paste the log
  • [16:16:18] <mdp> my vague recollection is that I had enough work building against my dmaengine series a few months ago to successfully regression check it
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  • [16:16:41] <mdp> but that was with an omap-specific dt/dmaengine patch for mmc that I've dropped out for somebody else to handle
  • [16:17:08] <mdp> bbl
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  • [16:31:51] <koen> mdp: dss2
  • [16:32:09] <koen> find_overlay or something
  • [16:32:14] <koen> framebuffer stuff
  • [16:33:09] <jkridner|work> koen: do you think we need to adjust anything before making a new BeagleBone (white) SD card image? if we are final for Black, then we should be stable enough to support a new image on white.
  • [16:33:24] <jkridner|work> it'd really help in getting examples done over the next week or so.
  • [16:33:36] <jkridner|work> and finding issues before they hit the streets.
  • [16:34:14] * jkridner|work ejects the newly written flasher SD card.
  • [16:35:13] <jkridner|work> I can try booting the flasher on a white and change emmc.sh to write to a USB SD adapter to create an image, but I want it to be "official".
  • [16:36:14] <jkridner|work> the hardware docs are wrong. :-/ otherwise, there's very little black-specific.
  • [16:36:22] <koen> jkridner|work: no, I just need to create an sd card, boot it, dump it and upload it for -white
  • [16:37:17] <jkridner|work> k. if you don't plan to do that by Monday, I'll need to make one to circulate to a handful of people helping me on examples that don't have black boards.
  • [16:37:35] <jkridner|work> if you do plan to make an official release, then I'd rather just circulate that.
  • [16:37:35] <koen> probably tomorrow
  • [16:37:39] <jkridner|work> sweet!
  • [16:40:18] <jkridner|work> I did kick off my clean build to capture sources.tgz a while ago, but I expect I'll need to do it again once oebb.sh points to the right places to pick up what you are actually building.
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  • [17:57:26] <mdp> koen: does dss have bindings yet?
  • [17:57:37] <koen> mdp: iirc not
  • [17:57:49] <koen> mdp: I'll try again tomorrow with latest mainline
  • [17:58:06] <koen> and if that fails with benoits for 3.10 branch
  • [17:58:56] <mdp> I was more wondering if the driver side is there
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  • [17:59:31] <mdp> which leads me to wonder about the stuff in ti-linux-kernel.git
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  • [18:01:14] <koen> that started out promissing
  • [18:01:22] <koen> then it became a dumping ground for broken shit
  • [18:01:49] <koen> just like my evil vendor tree is *$(@*(@ broken for xM
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  • [18:04:19] <mdp> I've seen some stuff go by internally that makes me question that tree's integrity..yes
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  • [18:08:57] <mdp> koen, the only thing expected to work in that tree is omap5-uevm.dts
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  • [18:10:49] <koen> does that have wl12xx?
  • [18:11:00] <koen> wl18xx more likely
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  • [18:26:26] <mdp> koen, still not there..weird spi dma stuff omap too
  • [18:26:32] <mdp> in that tree
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  • [18:26:58] <mdp> I see support in dss2 at least
  • [18:27:15] <mdp> that's as far as my curiousity goes
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  • [18:30:55] <mru> does ds2 have dt bindings?
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  • [18:44:26] <Russ> koen, those are the patches I sent you a while ago
  • [18:44:36] <koen> Russ: weren't those for 3.2?
  • [18:44:41] <Russ> ya
  • [18:44:50] <Russ> I can port them forward, when do you need them?
  • [18:45:29] <koen> with in a month or so
  • [18:45:38] <koen> they will go into the updated build
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  • [18:56:42] <koen> it fails to build if you have a recent dtc from git installed
  • [18:56:54] <woglinde> koen I sent patch
  • [18:57:08] <woglinde> to oe-ore
  • [18:57:12] <woglinde> ups oe-core
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  • [18:58:37] <_av500_> not oe-core?
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  • [19:00:17] <koen> woglinde: awesome, let me pull it down from patchwork
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  • [19:19:59] <koen> jkridner|work: in 10 minutes or so: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.12-beaglebone-2013.04.13.img.xz
  • [19:20:14] <koen> jkridner|work: should work on white, it's already booted
  • [19:20:17] <jkridner|work> sweet!
  • [19:20:30] <jkridner|work> will the mirrors pick it up?
  • [19:20:44] <jkridner|work> I'll drop it on S3 as well.
  • [19:21:05] <koen> I'll have a look at uploading it next week
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  • [19:25:57] <jkridner|work> you planning that HDD snapshot or oebb updates first?
  • [19:26:05] <jkridner|work> btw, the new image works like a champ for me.
  • [19:26:36] <jkridner|work> still having flakiness with GateOne.
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  • [19:31:40] <koen> jkridner|work: ok, the file should be there now
  • [19:31:57] <jkridner|work> downloading!
  • [19:32:43] <jkridner|work> when should I look for a modified oebb.sh to pick up *these* sources?
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  • [20:12:20] <jfeyeve> Hello, I'm interested in working with BeagleBoard on GSoC project
  • [20:14:43] <jfeyeve> I have an idea for a project, and I would like some advice on submitting a well composed application
  • [20:15:10] <alan_o> jfeyeve: are you on the BeagleBoard.org GSoC mailing list?
  • [20:15:26] <alan_o> jkridner|work: ^^^
  • [20:15:28] <woglinde> but you can ask questions here too
  • [20:15:41] <woglinde> but last word has jkridner
  • [20:15:48] <alan_o> yes, you can also ask questions here, but first step is to get on the mailing list.
  • [20:15:49] <jkridner|work> hi. :)
  • [20:16:26] <jfeyeve> I'm signing up now, thanks!
  • [20:16:27] <woglinde> hm the beer taste good as always
  • [20:16:56] <jkridner|work> get on the list, brainstorm here, present your idea on the list for feedback, come back and chat to refine, identify some folks who might make good mentors and help you refine the ideas page, submit a great application and violia!
  • [20:17:22] <jfeyeve> awesome
  • [20:17:22] <jkridner|work> something like that. :)
  • [20:17:23] <alan_o> and you don't even have to play the viola but you don't
  • [20:17:39] <alan_o> s/but you don't//g <-arrgh
  • [20:18:04] <alan_o> jfeyeve: what do you think you might want to work on?
  • [20:19:51] <woglinde> hm should I apply for the python package stuff inclusion and mentor jkridner
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  • [20:22:14] <alan_o> I should have applied for GSoC. I could have gotten an intern to fix my HIDAPI bugs
  • [20:22:33] <woglinde> alan_o hm?
  • [20:23:05] <alan_o> woglinde: https://github.com/signal11/hidapi/
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  • [20:33:49] <jfeyeve> alan_o Im interested in the secondary processor support
  • [20:34:08] <jfeyeve> using FPGAs,arduinos, MSP 430
  • [20:34:40] <woglinde> nice
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  • [20:37:37] <woglinde> alan_o wow 36 issues open
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  • [20:44:07] <alan_o> woglinde: I know, I'm slack :(
  • [20:44:11] <alan_o> jfeyeve: That's cool.
  • [20:44:38] <jfeyeve> i had a Make type of project in mind
  • [20:45:21] <woglinde> alan_o even simple one with patches attached
  • [20:45:28] <jfeyeve> since that isn't on the idea list I thought secondary process support was the closest
  • [20:45:32] <alan_o> jfeyeve: You'll want to watch: http://free-electrons.com/blog/elce-2012-videos/ Matt Porter's ( mdp ) video about the 6502 and beaglebone
  • [20:45:45] <alan_o> woglinde: which one?
  • [20:46:11] <alan_o> woglinde: markdown?
  • [20:46:23] <woglinde> yes
  • [20:46:25] <alan_o> woglinde: I haven't come up with a good way to manage the "I'm not interested int this patch"
  • [20:46:34] <woglinde> oh okay
  • [20:46:45] <woglinde> so just make a comment and close it
  • [20:46:51] <alan_o> probably should
  • [20:47:04] <alan_o> The markdown is great for how it looks on github, but I want it to show good in a text editor first and foremost
  • [20:48:25] <woglinde> ah did not see you comment a lot
  • [20:48:32] <woglinde> so are not as lazy as I thought
  • [20:48:53] <alan_o> woglinde: the thing about contrib patches, is that many times (not every time), I spend as much time on the patch as the submitter. One could say that I should kick it back repeatedly and make them fix it, but that takes more effort most of the time than fixing it myself.
  • [20:49:22] <alan_o> woglinde: I do kick them back, if I think the person is willing to learn more about the OSS process and has a desire to get it right.
  • [20:49:42] <woglinde> ;)
  • [20:50:13] <woglinde> hm no new video of bioshock infinite
  • [20:51:35] <alan_o> know what I mean? I had this one guy who was a college student. Made a useful patch, but it needed a lot of work. I helped him out by making comments and suggestions and he eventually got there, and got to have some pride in authorship (I hope), but that was a lot of time on my part. I could have fixed it up in a couple hours because I knew what I wanted. A handful of times though you get perfect patches.
  • [20:51:45] <woglinde> hm I will work on my jenkins jobs
  • [20:51:50] <woglinde> for meta-java
  • [20:51:51] <alan_o> woglinde: oh, and then there's the people who add a feature to one platform. I support 4 :)
  • [20:52:03] <woglinde> alan_o I saw that
  • [20:52:49] <woglinde> alan_o yes getting people willing and started is hard
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  • [20:59:46] <mdp> jfeyeve: sounds like a great project
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  • [21:00:59] <mrpackethead> it had to happen
  • [21:01:00] <mrpackethead> http://geekboy.it/news/swedish-hosting-company-fs-data-announces-free-raspberry-pi-co-location
  • [21:01:49] <mru> that's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time
  • [21:01:56] <woglinde> gm mrpackethead
  • [21:02:13] <mrpackethead> good morning (ugt)
  • [21:03:18] <woglinde> hm do we not have some wordpress brute forcing attacks ongoing
  • [21:05:25] <jfeyeve> thank you all for the help
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  • [21:08:53] <alan_o> mrpackethead: I was about to say "too bad there's no mounting holes," but then I found that rev 2.0 finally has them
  • [21:09:23] <alan_o> mrpackethead: and there's only 2!!!!
  • [21:09:44] <alan_o> mrpackethead: I guess someone over there failed the "how many points make a plane" test in geometry...
  • [21:09:52] <alan_o> is there anything about that project which isn't an absolute joke?
  • [21:10:26] <woglinde> alan_o no, but people keep on buying
  • [21:10:59] <alan_o> yes, it's all hype
  • [21:11:13] <mrpackethead> is it?
  • [21:11:24] <alan_o> yeah
  • [21:11:29] <mrpackethead> you have an uber cheap thing that does somethign useful for someone
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  • [21:11:33] <mrpackethead> what is hype about htat
  • [21:11:43] <alan_o> hype is what separates beagleboard.org products from RPi
  • [21:11:55] <mru> and functionality
  • [21:11:56] <mrpackethead> and $40
  • [21:11:57] <mru> and sanity
  • [21:12:19] <woglinde> some claims xmbc is fine for them on rpi
  • [21:12:26] <alan_o> mru yeah, I mean hype is what they have better than us. We have plenty better than them, of course.
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  • [21:13:00] <mru> woglinde: it has a bigass video/gfx processor, so that's no surprise
  • [21:13:23] <mru> but why the hell would you run xbmc in a colo?
  • [21:14:29] <alan_o> For tThe next gen BeagleBone (what color is it again?) should kick the crap out of
  • [21:14:33] <alan_o> crap
  • [21:14:37] <alan_o> stray enter
  • [21:14:39] <alan_o> let me rephrase
  • [21:15:03] <alan_o> The next gen BeagleBone (what color is it again?) should kick the crap out of the RPi if we could articulate all the things which are better about our board
  • [21:15:05] <alan_o> like
  • [21:15:21] <mru> that's not how it works
  • [21:15:40] <alan_o> mru It works on hype
  • [21:15:52] <alan_o> we have to generate hype
  • [21:15:53] <mru> and hype has _nothing_ to do with reality
  • [21:16:17] <alan_o> right. But we can use reality as a basis for hype generation
  • [21:16:18] <jkridner|work> it has *something* to do with reality in that it screws reality up.
  • [21:16:20] <jkridner|work> :)
  • [21:16:33] <jkridner|work> there's always *some* basis in fact.
  • [21:16:56] <alan_o> Fact: Cortex vs ARM9
  • [21:17:03] <jkridner|work> but 1 fact <<< 101 falsehoods.
  • [21:17:04] <alan_o> Fact: Open Hardware Design
  • [21:17:06] <mru> arm11, but whatever
  • [21:17:12] <mru> alan_o: fact's don't matter
  • [21:17:19] <mru> it's all about SHOUTING
  • [21:17:24] <alan_o> oh yeah, arm11 :)
  • [21:17:24] <mru> just look at lennart
  • [21:17:52] <alan_o> So let's start shouting
  • [21:17:59] <alan_o> :)
  • [21:18:06] <mru> that only works when the bad guys do it
  • [21:18:35] <alan_o> But.. there is a tendency for people to believe things which punch holes in hype.
  • [21:18:41] <alan_o> people like to think they're getting the "real" story
  • [21:18:48] <alan_o> hence Alex Jones
  • [21:19:09] <mru> no, that's not how it works either
  • [21:19:15] <alan_o> think not/
  • [21:19:16] <alan_o> ?
  • [21:19:19] <mru> people believe whatever makes them feel good
  • [21:19:51] <mru> getting an _*AMAZING*_ almost-a-pc-but-better for ~nothing makes them feel good
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  • [21:20:02] <mru> and it saves the poor starving children
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  • [21:20:32] <alan_o> but aren't we an amazinger almost-a-pc-but-better for a little more than ~nothing (talking about next gen)?
  • [21:20:42] <alan_o> and not made in China?
  • [21:21:00] <mru> but that's the truth
  • [21:21:04] <mru> the truth never works
  • [21:21:11] <mru> the bad guy always wins
  • [21:21:33] <alan_o> you don't watch enough superhero movies
  • [21:21:34] <mru> where did you think politicians came from?
  • [21:21:51] <alan_o> Well I guess that's QED
  • [21:23:56] <woglinde> hm beer is empty
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  • [21:25:01] <jkroon_> woglinde, id buy you one for fixing qemu but I only have whiskey
  • [21:26:41] <woglinde> jkroon_ na that was simply easy
  • [21:26:57] <woglinde> like fixing chromium arm builds in ubuntu
  • [21:27:35] <woglinde> that gives me a beer on linuxtag
  • [21:27:53] <woglinde> hm so we have at least 2 promising candidates for gsoc
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  • [22:05:26] <alan_o> woglinde: javam looks cool. You'd think Sun would have given us something like that 15 years ago
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  • [22:11:44] <woglinde> hm let me see
  • [22:12:13] <woglinde> yes 15 years ago I read the first parts of a book about java
  • [22:12:41] <woglinde> but since 2003(2004 I really developing something in java
  • [22:13:02] <woglinde> and since 2008 I learned a lot about java enterprise
  • [22:13:23] <woglinde> and since hm 2006 or so I am making the meta-java stuff
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  • [22:35:28] <panto> prpplague, ping
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  • [22:39:08] <woglinde> pnato
  • [22:39:14] <panto> hey
  • [22:39:16] <woglinde> sleep sleep sleep
  • [22:39:24] <panto> I should should should
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  • [22:43:51] <woglinde> good night too
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  • [23:28:38] <ka6sox> mranostay, got pins for me?
  • [23:31:18] <mranostay> was about to work on that i swear :)
  • [23:32:01] <mranostay> github down?
  • [23:32:26] <ka6sox> dunno..not using them currently (using my own git repos :) )
  • [23:35:53] <ka6sox> mranostay, githup UP for me.
  • [23:59:30] <ka6sox> mranostay, got anything?