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[00:31:28] <mranostay> wb mr davest
[00:31:42] <Crofton> he never talks
[00:31:47] <ka6sox> ya,
[00:31:54] <ka6sox> never seen him talk (well almost never)
[00:32:59] <ds2> Hmmmm
[00:34:27] <mranostay> davest: YOCTO ALL THINGS!
[00:34:48] <ds2> YuckTo
[00:34:54] <mranostay> if that doesn't get his attention
[00:35:02] <mru> mranostay: you have to admit though, tizen has more potential
[00:35:24] <mranostay> pick your poison... you'll still be dead :P
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[00:36:10] <Canaimero-Mariga> holaaaa
[00:36:29] <ds2> SGX works with 32bpp these days, right?
[00:36:30] <Canaimero-Mariga> busco novio quien quiera diga 123
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[00:55:26] <Crofton> davest, is posting links to cat videos
[00:57:52] <mru> I don't think he's paying attention
[00:58:47] <mru> can't blame him really
[00:58:53] <mru> this channel is full of trolls
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[01:15:06] <davest> Crofton: it's really an engineer video
[01:18:25] <woglinde> gn
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[01:39:43] <koen-> ds2: you remember it backwards, it used to *only* work with 32bit
[01:40:06] <koen-> it relied on the dss hardware to dither it down to 16bpp for all the phone screens
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[02:20:31] <ds2> koen: doh..thanks for the reminder
[02:22:06] <koen-> ds2: it did need RGBA instead of ARGB, so that might have confused you
[02:22:22] <koen-> or vice versa
[02:22:25] * koen- is confused now
[02:22:58] <ds2> koen-: trying to chase down what appears to be a ARGB vs ABGR mismatch
[02:23:04] <ds2> colors are fine til SGX runs
[02:23:11] <ds2> but I am behind layers of android crap
[02:35:46] <mranostay> hi all
[02:37:50] <ka6sox> hi you
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[02:39:02] <mranostay> YOCTO!
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[02:57:32] <mranostay> koen-: you know if ecap is still broken on 3.8?
[02:57:40] <mranostay> on your evil vendor tree
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[03:03:37] * ds2 screams bloodly murder
[03:03:45] <ds2> @#$%@!$!@#%@(*$)(@!#*$(!#@*&)($!&@)(#&!@)(*#&!@)(*&#*()!@#&) silicon errata is the source of my problem
[03:04:18] * mranostay gives ds2 a hug
[03:04:54] <ds2> damn AM335x
[03:05:52] <mranostay> ds2: what errata?
[03:06:08] <ds2> mranostay: LCD lines. R&B needs to be swapped
[03:06:15] <ds2> or you are just F'ed
[03:06:34] <ds2> lucky me... get to rewire 24 wires again
[03:08:22] <ds2> and the problem only happens when SGX is used
[03:08:38] <ds2> lovely isn't it? try to make it go faster, you face plant
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[03:19:42] <koen-> mranostay: ecap in is broken, dunno about ecap out
[03:20:23] <mranostay> @#$@#$
[03:20:30] <mranostay> ecap out?
[03:20:36] <mranostay> er isn't that just pwm? :)
[03:20:39] <koen-> it is
[03:20:57] <koen-> but ecap can also function as a counter, which I call 'ecap in'
[03:21:31] <mranostay> which is the useful part :)
[03:21:43] <ds2> how fast of a clock have people tried ecap out?
[03:22:19] <koen-> I've only used ehrpwm so far
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[03:22:46] <mranostay> koen-: you know how long a GPO pulse is from the PRU? i can't find it in the TRM i know i've seen it
[03:22:57] <mranostay> i would guess ~1 clock cycle
[03:24:16] <koen-> yes, in theory ~1 clock cycle
[03:24:19] <ds2> koen-: how fast of a clock have you used it with?
[03:24:31] <koen-> but I don't know how a 100MHz signal looks when it comes out of the header
[03:24:45] <ds2> depends on what you are doing ;)
[03:25:00] <koen-> ds2: 100k driving a fet with a cap, so that is practically DC :)
[03:25:18] <ds2> koen-: for what i am doing, that is desireable
[03:25:28] <ds2> doing an audio out w/o using a CODEC
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[03:35:19] <mranostay> prpplague: hey purple dude
[03:35:27] <prpplague> mranostay: greetings
[03:37:14] * mranostay sips a Stella
[03:39:00] <mranostay> prpplague: weird thing with interviews now they ask for your github page :)
[03:39:15] <prpplague> mranostay: yea i heard some people say that was happening
[03:39:34] <prpplague> mranostay: they always ask about for my G+ spock albums url
[03:40:41] <mranostay> prpplague: mine is weird it is a combo of python, c, poky recipes, Eagle PCB library mods, and presentations :)
[03:40:50] * prpplague looks to see what the name of the beer he is drinking
[03:41:16] <prpplague> franziskaner weissbier
[03:42:46] <mranostay> +10
[03:43:11] <mranostay> prpplague: _av500_ would be proud
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[03:51:01] <mranostay> everyone shout Yocto at davest on the count of three
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[03:55:05] <ka6sox> e
[03:55:07] <ka6sox> 3
[03:55:10] <mranostay> 2
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[04:31:44] <noobish_> i'm trying to use omap_mux_init_signal (from mux.c) from my kernel module, but when I try to install my module, I get a "WARNING: "omap_mux_init_signal" undefined" error
[04:32:07] <noobish_> is there a kernel module i need to load first?
[04:34:34] <mranostay> and is it an exported function?
[04:35:38] <noobish_> checking
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[04:36:13] <noobish_> ugh...doesn't look like it.
[04:36:40] <noobish_> so, what does the sysfs stuff use!?
[04:36:54] <noobish_> are they calling their own, redundant, functions or something?
[04:37:01] <noobish_> err..kernel debug stuff i suppose.
[04:37:49] <mranostay> er yeah
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[04:38:23] <mranostay> unless are you using DT
[04:38:36] <noobish_> no. just stock angstrom.
[04:39:57] <noobish_> any idea what the sysfs stuff uses?
[04:40:58] <noobish_> ugh, if they're not going to use a standard interface, why should i!? memory writes it is! :D
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[04:43:21] <noobish_> guess i'll dig through the code and see what functions they're using, and hope they're exported (hahahah!)
[04:45:51] <noobish_> err wait, looks like ioremap *is* the only way, cause, why would they export that shit? who would want to mux a pin in the kernel?
[04:46:52] <noobish_> guess i'm happy about it. will take me 2 minutes rather than 2 hours digging through undocumented code.
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[05:00:20] <noobish_> newberish, there's only room for one of us
[05:00:59] * noobish_ is now known as PRU_EVTOUT0
[05:01:04] <newberish> haha
[05:01:15] <PRU_EVTOUT0> i'll interrupt everyone
[05:01:29] <PRU_EVTOUT0> hahah, pru humor!!!
[05:01:45] <PRU_EVTOUT0> i'm lonely :(
[05:02:17] <newberish> I think you are on the wrong channel
[05:03:37] * mranostay notes that and goes to drink
[05:04:09] <ds2> Hmmm
[05:04:48] <newberish> Question: I started messing around with Arduino and found several good books that bring you through the learning process along with examples in each section. Is there such a book for the beagle bone?
[05:05:07] <PRU_EVTOUT0> no. lots of tutorials online now though
[05:05:21] <PRU_EVTOUT0> using the javascript library and stuff
[05:05:41] <PRU_EVTOUT0> and, there are a few python libraries too if you're controlling gpio
[05:05:59] <PRU_EVTOUT0> (at several mhz rather than the ludicrously slow sysfs stupidity)
[05:06:58] <newberish> I just recently started learning javacript @ codecademy.com, I am a complete newb to linux. How should I start the learning process?
[05:07:00] <PRU_EVTOUT0> i think you'll find it very easy actually, especially if you're just doing slow things.
[05:07:46] <PRU_EVTOUT0> if you're fast, there are many "getting started with linux" type tutorials
[05:07:58] <PRU_EVTOUT0> or, if you're slow, you can check out some of the online video courses for introduction to linux
[05:08:17] <newberish> Would you please provide a link that you recommend for a slow person?
[05:08:26] <PRU_EVTOUT0> although, if you just want to get started programming the beaglebone, there's not all THAT much linux involved
[05:08:46] <PRU_EVTOUT0> except normal directory traversing and whatnot, which isn't any different that windows command prompt.
[05:09:04] <PRU_EVTOUT0> sure, one sec
[05:09:50] <PRU_EVTOUT0> http://bit.ly/14XGplH
[05:10:50] <PRU_EVTOUT0> here's an example of bonescript: http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/01/05/beaglebone-coding-101-blinking-an-led
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[05:11:58] <PRU_EVTOUT0> and, when i say "especially if you're just doing slow things" i mean, not wiggling wires too quickly.
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[05:12:40] <PRU_EVTOUT0> or, at least in strange ways (uart, i2c, and stuff is built in and can wiggle plenty fast)
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[05:16:24] <newberish> Ok, so the initial setup shows plugging the beaglebone into your network and getting an IP via DHCP. Can you not "console" in via the usb?
[05:16:42] <PRU_EVTOUT0> you can.
[05:16:51] <PRU_EVTOUT0> after you install the drivers, it'll show up as a virtual comm port
[05:17:00] <PRU_EVTOUT0> it'll also show up as a mass storage device
[05:17:26] <PRU_EVTOUT0> then, you can "console" in and disable that, and enable "ethernet over usb" to give it network access..
[05:17:56] <PRU_EVTOUT0> but, you can start programming on it from the web server and ide that comes with it.
[05:18:45] <PRU_EVTOUT0> i think it's covered in the introduction slideshow, "beaglebone 101" or whatever.
[05:19:15] <PRU_EVTOUT0> the links in the slideshow work, so you can go to the ide right from the slideshow.
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[05:21:04] <ds2> damn it...the current DT status is a bigger mess then right after a hurricane
[05:21:53] <newberish> I see, thank you PRU
[05:22:49] <PRU_EVTOUT0> don't expect much help in here btw...most of these guys are jerk faces that are doing really complicated stuff.
[05:22:55] <PRU_EVTOUT0> :D
[05:23:51] <mrpackethead> :p
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[05:54:06] <PRU_EVTOUT0> is it ok to give iounmap a null pointer?
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[05:57:55] <PRU_EVTOUT0> doesn't look like it's ok.
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[06:01:23] <PRU_EVTOUT0> how many red box turtles does it take to fill a 40g barrel?
[06:01:32] <PRU_EVTOUT0> nm, got it.
[06:01:42] <ka6sox> forty gallon or 40Grams?
[06:02:07] <ds2> 40grains?
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[06:18:38] <ka6sox> if its 40graines I want to stay out of the way
[06:18:49] <ka6sox> s/graines/grains/
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[06:19:50] <PRU_EVTOUT0> have a good weekend everyone!!!
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[06:23:32] <mrpackethead> mranostay: you still awake?
[06:24:05] <ka6sox> a better question is whether sober.
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[06:31:23] <mranostay> ka6sox: cute
[06:32:21] <mranostay> mrpackethead: sup?
[06:32:46] <mrpackethead> someone alleged your blood alcohol level
[06:33:48] <mranostay> not 0.00 i'll admit :)
[06:34:50] <mrpackethead> i was just hunting in the TRM for the pulse width
[06:34:52] <mrpackethead> but cant' find it
[06:35:15] <mranostay> yeah i know i've seen it before not 100% in was in the TRM now
[06:35:45] <mrpackethead> the PRU chapter is one paragraph
[06:35:50] <mrpackethead> is there another document?
[06:38:56] <mranostay> pru reference guide
[06:39:22] <mranostay> although i can't find it in there even
[06:39:49] <mranostay> i know i've seen the actual pulse length number in some doc..
[06:39:54] <ka6sox> I thought I saw it in the AM18XX PRU guide
[06:40:00] <mranostay> ah!
[06:41:46] <mrpackethead> ka6sox: i'm interested to know why the PRU sends these pules rather than setting a state
[06:46:20] <ds2> the AM335x in the current form is sure F'ed
[06:47:02] <ka6sox> ds2, I'm not sure I'd say that...
[06:47:07] <ka6sox> its "different"
[06:47:14] <ds2> ka6sox: everywhere i turn, there is an errata
[06:47:27] <ds2> apparently the RTC is a power guzzler due to an errata
[06:47:35] <ds2> and it is basically broken
[06:48:03] <mranostay> there is a RTC?
[06:48:08] <ka6sox> I need a GPS anyways to syncronize things...
[06:48:16] <mranostay> EVM?
[06:48:21] <ka6sox> so I just keep disciplining it.
[06:48:28] <ds2> it is in the SoC itself
[06:48:37] <ds2> but it requires cooperation of the PMIC
[06:48:43] <ds2> a RTC an help the GPS lock quicker
[06:49:47] <ka6sox> I just leave the GPS running
[06:49:55] <ka6sox> I need it to keep things in Sync.
[06:50:07] <ds2> u got lots power :D
[06:50:26] <ka6sox> I need at least 25W for the transmitter!
[06:50:35] <ka6sox> some are 25kW
[06:53:24] <ka6sox> power is not an issue
[06:53:47] <ds2> with a 25KW xmitter nearby, I can parasite power it with a diode ;)
[06:54:27] <ka6sox> if there is that much energy in the building..I dont' want to be there.
[06:54:35] <ds2> heheh
[06:55:09] <ka6sox> Sign I saw on a fence in one place: DANGER: Do not Enter! Your family line will END here...
[06:55:52] <ds2> do you also carry flourescent tubes to the sites?
[06:56:10] <ka6sox> only on Halloween, and Blackface too...
[06:56:58] <ka6sox> to scare the beegeebers out of mischeif makers.
[06:57:44] <ds2> oh... but it sounds like the places you goto, the tubes would just glow
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[06:59:10] <ka6sox> not till you you touch the towers...
[06:59:16] <ka6sox> then they glow in the field
[07:00:51] <ds2> oh
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[07:03:18] <ka6sox> I'm sure several of the taggers had to change their shorts(which was pretty funny since they had low rider shorts on)
[07:04:27] <ds2> hahah
[07:06:15] <ka6sox> dang...62C on that i7 now...
[07:06:37] <ds2> there is an interstate I7 through the desert?
[07:07:03] <ka6sox> no, I've been running a simulator on my i7 at my office
[07:07:22] <ds2> I7 is a north south interstate, right?
[07:07:31] <ka6sox> if there was one it would be
[07:07:50] <ka6sox> I5, I15 are the 2 furthest west
[07:07:59] <ka6sox> I8 runs down along the mexican border
[07:08:31] <ka6sox> 8hrs, and only 128,497 clock cycles simulated.
[07:08:42] <ds2> trying to figure out what this I7 is you speak of...
[07:09:24] <ka6sox> i7-3770K...intel 3rd generation processor.
[07:09:31] <ds2> Ohhhhhh x86 crap
[07:09:33] <ds2> blah
[07:09:43] <ka6sox> its simulating a Virtex5
[07:09:48] <ka6sox> (and not very well)
[07:09:59] <ds2> why not just get a virtex5 dev board? :D
[07:10:15] <ka6sox> thats running too.
[07:10:48] <ds2> ah... so your entire office is at 62C now? ;)
[07:11:11] <ka6sox> the V5 rarely gets above 48C
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[07:12:42] <ds2> what is the virtex5 being configured to do?
[07:14:31] <ka6sox> push 4TB files out serially
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[12:27:04] <mru> morning trolls
[12:28:48] <dm8tbr> trololololo
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[12:36:55] <woglinde> gm mru
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[13:44:36] * koen- yawms
[13:45:56] <woglinde> gm koen
[13:48:11] <koen-> hey woglinde
[13:50:15] <woglinde> and till later again
[13:50:31] <woglinde> basketball game is waiting for me as ref
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[16:39:26] <mranostay> morning
[16:39:37] <mru> good moaning to you too
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[17:22:24] <mranostay> mru: when you fly?
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[17:25:03] <mru> mranostay: tuesday
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[18:01:10] <mru> oh no, more trolls
[18:01:55] <alan_o> :)
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[18:06:47] <mranostay> alan_o is a barely a troll :P
[18:07:47] <alan_o> hehe, level 1
[18:08:07] <alan_o> I wear the red shirt on away missions
[18:12:31] <mru> alan_o: your nick is shown in red in my irc client
[18:12:32] <dm8tbr> the one from barcelona? :)
[18:13:19] <mru> mranostay: but he has potential
[18:13:27] <alan_o> dm8tbr: I was thinking more like this: http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/10/insp_expendability.jpg
[18:17:32] <angs> I need to connect a board that requires usb ttl cable which I don't have currently. I have a beagleboard-xm, would it work to use expansion header pins UART2_TX, UART2_RX, and GND?
[18:18:51] <dm8tbr> alan_o: I know, just putting the barcelona shirt in context
[18:21:28] <alan_o> hehe, those things are _bright_. I've worn mine a couple times.
[18:22:49] * dm8tbr likes his
[18:23:07] <dm8tbr> I actually have two of those as they were giving them away at the end
[18:40:46] <mranostay> dm8tbr: score?
[18:41:37] <dm8tbr> mranostay: sorry?
[18:43:26] <mranostay> dm8tbr: two shirts
[18:45:04] <dm8tbr> they had lots of them left over on the last day when the whole yocto thing was going on and they were tearing down the place
[18:52:31] <mranostay> yocto will have that effect
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[18:58:48] <tomtom_unaff> does anyone know if on on Beagle Board-xm or on Rasberry PI I can use 2 COM ports (serial port) at the same time?
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[19:13:03] <mous> hi everybody
[19:14:47] <mous> i have beagleboard xM i boot linux oon this board but i can't get ethernet
[19:14:52] <mous> can i have some help
[19:15:24] <dm8tbr> which distro are you using?
[19:16:16] <mous> i use a simple linux kernel 3.6.0-rc7-12547-gc0a2203
[19:16:52] <dm8tbr> no userspace?
[19:17:01] <mous> yes
[19:17:21] <mous> i want just to set up the ethernet interface
[19:18:03] <dm8tbr> well just build in the right kernel module then
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[19:19:20] <dm8tbr> right...
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[19:19:59] <mous> i do so
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[19:20:07] <woglinde> re
[19:20:18] <mous> but i think that i have some problem with my smsc chip
[19:20:56] <mous> i will rebuild the kernel
[19:21:32] <woglinde> smsc makes always trouble same with musb
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[19:21:50] <mru> let's simplify that: usb is trouble
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[19:28:31] <woglinde> hehe yes and ethernet via usb ist trouble ^2
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[19:33:16] <mranostay> woglinde: USB in general
[19:35:25] <woglinde> *sigh* I know that
[19:36:09] <mranostay> but put something you have to poll on USB and *faceplam* :)
[19:38:12] <toneeee> hey all
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[20:22:29] <mru> mranostay: usb itself is polled
[20:23:18] <mranostay> mru: yes i understand
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[20:27:58] <mru> btw, anyone know what kind of display connections they're likely to offer at elc?
[20:28:05] <mru> for presentations
[20:28:51] <mranostay> mru: VGA likely
[20:29:09] <koen-> it was in one of the emails
[20:29:13] <koen-> vga only iirc
[20:29:21] <mru> I only saw one saying bring your own laptop
[20:29:27] <mru> and vga stinks
[20:30:11] <dm8tbr> tsk. I'd expect them to have DVI/HDMI nowadays
[20:30:35] <koen-> I had expected dvi/hdmi years ago
[20:31:08] <koen-> my dvi -> vga passive dongle is always a big hit at conferences
[20:31:17] <mru> it struck me as a good idea to make sure the external outputs on the laptop are working before I get there
[20:31:36] <mru> my laptop has hdmi and vga
[20:32:06] <mru> hdmi appears to be working properly
[20:35:01] <dm8tbr> now your problem is to find a VGA cable and a screen with such input? ;)
[20:35:13] <koen-> I can't get the displayport -> vga dongle working under linux
[20:35:19] <koen-> dp -> hdmi work
[20:35:22] <koen-> dp -> dvi works
[20:35:26] <mru> dm8tbr: I have both of those somewhere around
[20:35:26] <koen-> builtin hdmi works
[20:35:43] <thurbad> mac display port?
[20:35:47] <mru> I even used one not long ago
[20:35:58] <koen-> so I'll either reboot into osx or borrow a laptop with vga
[20:36:06] <thurbad> has no analog signal that I'm aware of
[20:36:17] <koen-> thurbad: hence the dongle
[20:36:23] <koen-> it's an active one
[20:36:27] <thurbad> ah
[20:36:29] <koen-> just like the dvi and hdmi ones
[20:36:51] <mru> dp has too many options
[20:37:09] <koen-> or I could get prpplague to build me a hdmi -> vga active board
[20:37:17] <koen-> now that we are coworkers and all
[20:37:32] <mru> I thought that wasn't supposed to be official
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[20:37:57] <mru> #beagle, where secrets go to die
[20:43:51] <mranostay> don't worry i won't tell
[20:44:01] <mranostay> i can be bribed with beer at ELC :P
[20:44:01] <mru> yeah, right
[20:44:25] <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/140
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[20:45:56] <mrpackethead> mmm..
[20:46:01] <mrpackethead> beer..
[20:46:13] <mru> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/93
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[21:05:40] <woglinde> uhhh koen spoiled it
[21:06:47] <koen-> spoiler alert
[21:08:02] <joel_> hah
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[21:10:06] <woglinde> hi joel
[21:10:34] <mranostay> howdy mr joel_ !!
[21:12:43] <joel_> hey guys
[21:13:11] <joel_> I think they will have HDMI on this one. I confirmed with them couple of days back, just no display port so you've to get an adapter.
[21:14:40] <mranostay> i'll rent mine for $50 a hour :P
[21:15:36] <joel_> :P
[21:15:41] <joel_> or borrow koens'
[21:15:56] <joel_> Guess everybody busy making slides?
[21:16:59] <mranostay> done
[21:17:13] <joel_> mranostay: ah k. share them somewhere?
[21:17:26] <joel_> mine's at: http://elinux.org/Fit-boot#Presentation
[21:17:47] <mru> joel_: excellent, saves me the trouble of testing vga
[21:17:51] <koen-> weren't we supposed to send the slides in 2 days ago?
[21:18:05] <joel_> we were
[21:18:15] <mranostay> heh
[21:18:21] <joel_> but that's just first cut
[21:18:26] <koen-> I sent them in yesterday :)
[21:18:35] <koen-> incomplete of course
[21:18:38] <mru> I assume it's ok to make changes after submitting them
[21:18:44] * koen- complied to the letter, not the spirit
[21:18:49] <joel_> completion will happen on the plane ;)
[21:19:18] <mru> I'm not presenting until thursday
[21:19:26] <mru> so completion can happen night before
[21:19:26] <koen-> joel_: you missed the cake thing yesterday at TI
[21:19:28] <mru> after the bar closes
[21:19:40] <mru> koen-: was it a lie?
[21:19:44] <joel_> koen-: I know :'( I had a conflicting meeting
[21:19:46] <koen-> it was delicious
[21:19:48] <joel_> will see y'all anyway at elc
[21:20:18] <koen-> no raspberry filling, though
[21:20:23] <joel_> heh
[21:21:13] <mranostay> joel_: http://elinux.org/ELC_2013_Presentations#Presenters
[21:21:13] <joel_> too many 0's on the cake. one more 0 and you'd need to get 2 cakes. maybe in next yr, million beagles :-P
[21:22:24] <joel_> mranostay: ah yes, thanks
[21:22:46] <mranostay> mmmm beagle pi wouldn't sell here
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[21:23:37] <koen-> heh
[21:23:42] <koen-> that wiki is funny
[21:23:50] <koen-> it swaps presenter and title a lot
[21:24:23] <mranostay> joel_: your time slot sucks btw :)
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[21:24:31] <mranostay> what is with three TIers in the same one?
[21:24:51] <mranostay> can only troll one of you guys.. no fair
[21:25:02] <koen-> think outside the box
[21:25:11] <koen-> troll 1 talk, get escorted out
[21:25:14] <joel_> mranostay: hehe. since we work together, we can always present to each other without being at elc ;) . its more efficient
[21:25:18] <koen-> troll talk 2, get escorted out
[21:25:20] <koen-> etc
[21:26:15] <mranostay> er the tables are effed up
[21:26:44] <mru> mranostay: it's a wiki...
[21:26:57] <koen-> mranostay: that's what I said earlier :)
[21:27:04] <koen-> maybe we should bitbake a wiki with gpio
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[21:28:40] <woglinde> bitbang wiki?
[21:28:53] <woglinde> *trying to troll*
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[21:33:52] <mranostay> fixed
[21:34:05] <mranostay> must be a wiki OCD
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[21:40:40] <mranostay> joel_: one plus of an early talk i can troll back those that troll :P
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[21:42:21] <mru> trolls trolls troll troll trolls
[21:42:47] <mru> that's how it works, right?
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[21:59:23] <joel_> mranostay: looks good. +1 on the colors too. mine's just bland red and white. red to blend well with the TI logo
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[22:04:45] <mrpackethead> does anyone know if there are any half decent USB --> Ethernet Converters that work with the beaglebon.
[22:05:56] <mru> onboard ethernet no good?
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[22:12:37] <mrpackethead> need two
[22:12:40] <mrpackethead> ports
[22:12:41] <koen-> the bottleneck is not in the usb dongle
[22:12:46] <mrpackethead> the onboard one is just fine
[22:12:46] <koen-> but in the MUSB controller
[22:13:27] <mrpackethead> i'd have to look to see if the second Ethernetport can be accessed
[22:13:40] <mrpackethead> via the headers.. but my guess is no.
[22:14:04] <koen-> no, you're missing 2 rgmii signals
[22:15:07] <mrpackethead> how much of a bottle neck is the MUSB?
[22:15:21] <koen-> it doesn't do DMA with the current software
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[22:16:09] <mrpackethead> could you acehive 20Mb/s?
[22:16:29] <woglinde> mrpackethead lol
[22:16:35] <mrpackethead> thats probably not
[22:17:07] <mrpackethead> what could you acehive?
[22:17:28] <woglinde> test yourself
[22:17:34] <mrpackethead> i'm going to
[22:17:34] <woglinde> depends on many factors
[22:17:34] <mranostay> koen-: has musb ever worked? :)
[22:17:48] <mrpackethead> but you guys have plenty of good pointers
[22:17:48] <mranostay> or this a edma issue?
[22:18:17] <prpplague> koen-: the hdmi sniffer can be used to a vga adapter
[22:18:22] <koen-> mranostay: never worked, and on am335x it's using CPPI, not EDMA
[22:18:49] <woglinde> mrpackethead just buy a usb<->ethernet adapter with a chipset mentioned in kernel
[22:18:56] <woglinde> does not cost much
[22:19:03] <woglinde> 5 euros I paid on ebay
[22:19:27] <mrpackethead> what sort of throughput could i expect?
[22:19:34] <woglinde> *sigh*
[22:19:53] <woglinde> you have to test
[22:19:55] <mrpackethead> what sort of throughput do you get woglinde
[22:20:15] <woglinde> I did not make any tests on my ac100
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[22:22:06] <mrpackethead> Google is fun on this topic.. theres a lot of Ethernet over USB of course
[22:22:52] <joel_> musb w/ cppi dma worked once upon a time. then again "worked" has many definitions
[22:23:47] <mru> mrpackethead: most usb-eth adapters use smsc or asix chips
[22:23:55] <mru> both have good drivers
[22:24:05] <mru> as good as any usb thing, that is
[22:25:37] <Shadyman> I just use g_ether :x
[22:25:59] <mru> that works if you're connecting it to a usb host
[22:26:03] <Shadyman> True.
[22:26:04] <woglinde> shadyman I do not think he wants connection via usb cable
[22:26:08] <Shadyman> ah
[22:26:14] <Shadyman> didn't read the backlog :)
[22:26:18] <woglinde> haha
[22:26:31] <Jacmet> a lot of the really cheap ones seems to use davicom chips
[22:26:56] <mrpackethead> idealy, need an ethernet connection
[22:27:27] <mrpackethead> the beagle needs to sit between two broadcast domains
[22:27:35] <mrpackethead> there is another possible trick
[22:27:41] <mrpackethead> that i could do
[22:27:44] <mrpackethead> but its a bit guly
[22:28:20] <mrpackethead> i could connect a VLAN trunk to the beagle
[22:28:27] <mrpackethead> with a managed switch
[22:28:39] <mrpackethead> that probably would work.
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[23:30:48] <angs> I have a beagleboard-xm that doesn't work, is there any way to understand what part is broken?
[23:31:08] <mru> did the magic smoke escape?
[23:31:30] <angs> there were no smoke
[23:31:45] <mru> what did you do that made it stop working?
[23:31:46] <angs> it might be because of gpio
[23:32:58] <angs> I was using gpio that one gpio outputs 3.3 V and another gpio get that signal via a relay
[23:33:17] <angs> now I cannot get video output and no serial console output
[23:33:36] <mru> beagle has 1.8V i/o
[23:34:06] <angs> right
[23:34:11] <angs> I confused it with beaglebone
[23:34:14] <mru> so 3.3V will fry it
[23:34:22] <mru> yes, bone has 3.3V
[23:34:46] <angs> I connected a gpio to another gpio basically
[23:34:53] <angs> it should be 1.8 V
[23:36:55] <angs> when I power the board, I see that D5 and D14 leds are constant green
[23:37:36] <angs> is there any way to understand what is the real problem?
[23:40:14] * mranostay trolls in
[23:40:35] <mranostay> you fried the chip
[23:40:49] <mru> oh when the punks, go trolling in....</sing>
[23:41:11] <mranostay> angs: so you hooked up 3.3V gpio to what?
[23:42:23] <mru> hmm, this reminds me of my overvoltage protection for the beagle: http://hardwarebug.org/files/beagle_overvoltage.jpg
[23:42:36] <mru> should be good for at least 5kV
[23:43:06] <angs> mranostay: actually it is not 3.3V, it is 1.8V because I connected a gpio to a relay, then connected the relay output to another gpio to read. basically it was like connecting a gpio (output) to another gpio (input)
[23:43:28] <mranostay> mru: nice
[23:44:42] * mranostay suspects angs is not telling us a step
[23:44:52] <mru> I'm certain of it
[23:45:03] <mru> relays have more connections than that
[23:45:28] <mru> a typical relay has 4 terminals
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[23:46:37] <mranostay> mru: three at least
[23:46:58] <mru> 3 is not typical
[23:47:22] <mru> one purpose of a relay is to isolate the sides electrically
[23:47:24] <mranostay> yes i know
[23:47:33] <angs> it was a sensor's alarm relay output that has only NC and C terminals here is the sensor that I used http://resource.boschsecurity.com/documents/Installation_Guide_all_2627312395.pdf
[23:48:29] <angs> it was just cutting the signal when there is no motion and relay let the current flow when there is a motion.
[23:48:54] <angs> maybe I did something wrong on the gpio configuration, I could not understand what was wrong with it
[23:49:26] <angs> can it be used the board just for decoration now?
[23:49:58] <angs> would there be any use of it
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[23:52:31] <mru> you could sharpen the edges and throw it at intruders
[23:54:21] <mru> encase it in epoxy and use it as a beer coaster
[23:55:20] <mranostay> mru: that is a use for the r-pi
[23:55:42] <mru> I'm afraid it would spoil the taste of the beer
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