• [00:00:10] <Cykon> yeah?
  • [00:00:29] <Cykon> My screen just went black but the LEDs are still flashing... I'm guessing there's something wrong with my files
  • [00:01:07] <thurbad> not necessarily, some uImage verisions don't output anything until the kernel is fully booted
  • [00:01:35] <thurbad> you really should get a serial cable though
  • [00:01:58] <Cykon> Yeah, I'm definitely going to get one
  • [00:02:28] <Cykon> Well, the LEDs are still blinking, but the screen's black... following what you said I'm probably going to let it sit for some time
  • [00:03:34] <thurbad> kind of hard to say what's happening without serial output
  • [00:03:46] <Cykon> Yeah =/
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  • [00:03:59] <Cykon> I guess i'll look online for a serial cable
  • [00:06:41] <Cykon> Meh, might be a long shot, but do you have any idea how long the first boot might take? It's a console version of Angstrom following http://treyweaver.blogspot.com/2010/10/installing-angstrom-on-beagleboard-xm.html to get the files
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  • [00:10:35] <thurbad> I've never had beagle boot if the files are copied in that order to the boot partition
  • [00:11:26] <Cykon> Oh? That's no good!
  • [00:11:38] <thurbad> the order that works for me is MLO... u-boot.bin.. everything else is not dependent on order
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  • [00:12:04] <Cykon> So MLO must go in first? And then u-boot.bin?
  • [00:12:19] <thurbad> that's the only way I've been successfull
  • [00:12:22] <Cykon> Wasn't aware that there was a dependancy like that
  • [00:13:26] <Cykon> perhaps I'll just retry http://downloads.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [00:13:35] <thurbad> not 100% sure about u-boot needing to be second, but it's never failed me, and orderings have
  • [00:13:43] <Cykon> though I'm suspicious that u-boot and mlo are both 0 bytes
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  • [00:14:56] <thurbad> is it a symlink?
  • [00:15:26] <thurbad> that would be my guess
  • [00:15:28] <Cykon> Oh, not on my sd card, but on that website
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  • [00:15:47] <Cykon> wait nevermind i'm silly
  • [00:15:50] <Cykon> it's not 0 bytes
  • [00:16:35] <thurbad> I think the website shows the size as 0 because it is a symlink in that directory
  • [00:16:45] <Cykon> yeah you're right
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  • [00:17:07] <Cykon> whatever, i'll just let my current setup sit, and ill go and get a serial cable, thanks for the help
  • [00:17:48] <Cykon> btw have you gotten a usb adapter to work with yours?
  • [00:17:53] <Cykon> your serial cable that is
  • [00:18:28] <thurbad> yeah, my host machines don't have serial ports
  • [00:18:49] <Cykon> kk good, mine doesn't either
  • [00:25:20] <Cykon> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200515
  • [00:25:27] <Cykon> this should work as a serial adapter, yeah?
  • [00:25:47] <Cykon> wait, no wrong pin number
  • [00:26:06] <Cykon> ...or is it
  • [00:26:07] <W1N9Zr0> this will work if your motherboard has a serial header
  • [00:26:42] <thurbad> do you have an xM or a classic beagleboard?
  • [00:26:44] <Cykon> classic
  • [00:27:04] <Cykon> It doesn't have a serial header, I'm just shopping around with one that fits on my board right now
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  • [00:28:16] <thurbad> you /may/ have to do some soldering if you buy a cable off the shelf, because of the pin ordering on the connector
  • [00:28:27] <Cykon> bleh
  • [00:28:35] <alan_o> thurbad: not standard?
  • [00:28:57] <thurbad> if you're not comfortable with that order from special comp, they sell cables that work for the classic
  • [00:29:02] <alan_o> I pulled a similar cable off a 486 and it worked on my newer motherboard. I checked the pinout. Mabye I was lucky
  • [00:29:30] <thurbad> alan_o: sometimes they alternate top to bottom, sometimes they fill the top, then the bottom
  • [00:29:37] <Cykon> http://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/ ?
  • [00:29:49] <Cykon> I was looking around at that site, but it always looked sketchy xD
  • [00:30:21] <alan_o> Cykon: I haven't heard anything bad about them. I met one of their guys one time too.
  • [00:30:34] <thurbad> yeah, they're a little pricey... but they should work without changing pin assignment
  • [00:30:53] <Cykon> Hmm, perhaps I'll order from them then
  • [00:31:00] <thurbad> I've ordered from them before... they screwed up the shipping initially but everything got sorted out
  • [00:31:20] <Cykon> ah
  • [00:31:41] <thurbad> specifically they didn't ship overnight like we paid for
  • [00:31:55] <Cykon> yeah that would be a paint
  • [00:31:57] <Cykon> pain^^
  • [00:32:15] <thurbad> don't forget a null connector either
  • [00:32:22] <Cykon> null connecter?
  • [00:33:06] <thurbad> yes when connecting serial to serial for communication you often need a null connector in the middle to flip Tx and Rx
  • [00:33:20] <Cykon> ahhh gotcha
  • [00:34:03] <thurbad> xM handles that for you but classic doesn't
  • [00:34:42] <Cykon> that's the one with the nice little connecter isnt it?
  • [00:34:50] <thurbad> yes
  • [00:34:59] <Cykon> xD oh well
  • [00:35:56] <Cykon> Hmm, out of curiousity... since I haven't really begun messing around with actual programs for my board... is it possible to use the expansions slot as pin headers
  • [00:36:07] <Cykon> like, if I wanted to hook up some LEDs to it
  • [00:36:12] <Cykon> I should be able to do that right?
  • [00:37:35] <thurbad> yes, just be careful to not short things and use resistors on LEDs
  • [00:37:49] <Cykon> awesome, thanks
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  • [00:45:34] <Cykon> boor board is still just flashing away
  • [00:45:36] <Cykon> poor^^
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  • [00:50:52] <Guest92843> hi
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  • [00:51:16] <Guest92843> How will i know that beagleboard-xm is the current and latest version when i buy a the board?
  • [00:53:06] <thurbad> man my dns is being all lame tonight :/
  • [00:53:09] <Cykon> btw thurbad, thanks for the tip for the pinouts
  • [00:53:16] <Cykon> the one from newegg had 1 3 5 ...
  • [00:53:23] <Cykon> and i'm pretty sure the one that the bb needs is 1 2 3 ...
  • [00:53:51] <Cykon> what dns do you use?
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  • [00:55:06] <thurbad> time warner's default
  • [00:55:16] <Guest92843> how will i know if beagleboard-xm is the latest? should i see a sticker on the board with C1?
  • [00:55:21] <Guest92843> is that the latest?
  • [00:55:40] <Cykon> not sure check the wiki for the latest revision
  • [00:56:06] <Guest92843> but c is the latest one right?
  • [00:56:51] <Cykon> not sure :(
  • [00:57:38] <Guest92843> since this one i can see a sticker with c1 on it have a look http://www.ebay.com/itm/BeagleBoard-BB-XM-00-Rev-C-Development-Platform-/390457645985?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae916dba1
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  • [00:58:56] <Cykon> pretty sure there's revision c1 c2 etc
  • [00:59:00] <Cykon> so i dont know
  • [00:59:24] <Guest92843> okay thanks
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  • [01:05:28] <Guest92843> anyone knows since the wiki is not so helpful
  • [01:05:41] <Guest92843> beagleboard-xm boards is it c1 c2 the latest?
  • [01:06:05] <Guest92843> when you buy a board how will you know that it is the latest? is the sticker with c1 on it the latest one?
  • [01:07:47] <Cykon> Out of curiosity, whats the reason behind wanting the latest one?
  • [01:07:55] <Cykon> revisions are usually just small changes
  • [01:08:10] <Cykon> the core features should be the same... usually
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  • [01:09:14] <gabriel_> anyone knows how can i find out that the beagleaboard-xm is the latest revision? when i buy a board for example how can i know that it is the latest revision?
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  • [01:12:39] <wmat> gabriel_: my rev. A2 has a white sticker on the top of the board that says A2
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  • [08:39:38] <spacekitteh> does the 3.8 kernel support the beaglebone out of the box yet?
  • [08:39:44] <spacekitteh> as in, the vanilla kernel
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  • [08:42:44] <koen> spacekitteh: short answer: np
  • [08:42:46] <koen> ehm
  • [08:42:47] <koen> no
  • [08:43:12] <koen> if you want to try 3.8rc on bone, use this: https://github.com/beagleboard/kernel/tree/3.8
  • [08:43:21] <spacekitteh> yeah, that was my next question
  • [08:44:24] <spacekitteh> won't just typing "make uImage dtbs" use the x86 compiler?
  • [08:45:16] <LetoThe2nd> well set ARCH and CROSS_COMPILE accordingly
  • [08:45:30] <spacekitteh> is that in the config? or on the command line?
  • [08:45:38] <LetoThe2nd> you would need to do that anyways to get the correct config
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  • [08:46:10] <LetoThe2nd> ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=$WHATEVERPATHANDPREFIXYOURTOOLCHAINHAS make menuconfig
  • [08:46:13] <LetoThe2nd> ofr example
  • [08:46:22] * spacekitteh nods
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  • [09:16:09] <panto> morn'
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  • [09:56:22] <tipple> lol
  • [09:56:25] * tipple rapes cwillu's mom
  • [09:56:29] <tipple> this is too good
  • [09:56:37] <tipple> im loving it
  • [09:57:13] <KotH> jkridner_: could you please?
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  • [10:24:20] <tipple> cwillu: how to make fireballs
  • [10:24:27] <tipple> who wants cwillu's bookmarks file?
  • [10:25:30] <Fuchs> tipple: hi, mind a query?
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  • [10:33:11] <KotH> Fuchs: thanks
  • [10:33:23] <Fuchs> you're welcome, I guess
  • [10:34:21] <KotH> he is gone, that's good :)
  • [10:35:09] <cwillu> but seriously, who wants to make fireballs?
  • [10:35:13] * cwillu mutters
  • [10:35:18] * LetoThe2nd would.
  • [10:35:27] * KotH too
  • [10:35:33] <Fuchs> we are not on this channels access list, hence we usually won't interfere. I am mainly here because it was reported as being an issue in a few channels. In general, maybe a few more trusted people as ops might help. Anyway, I am leaving you guys now, sorry for intruding, have a nice day :)
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  • [10:37:58] * KotH wouldnt trust anyone here, they are all trolls!
  • [10:38:13] * dm8tbr clears his throat
  • [10:38:22] <dm8tbr> trolololololoLOLOLOLOLO!
  • [10:38:25] <LetoThe2nd> "sandworm", please.
  • [10:39:41] <cwillu> obligatory youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CaTY1VFTPA
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  • [10:44:26] <LetoThe2nd> i always thought it was http://www.youtube.com/movie/dune
  • [10:45:09] <av500> somebody at samsungs loves bit banging way too much: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048511
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  • [10:46:58] <av500> WTF is wrong with chrome and middle mouse button paste?
  • [10:47:26] <KotH> nobody needs that
  • [10:47:36] <panto> nobody needs more than one mouse button
  • [10:47:39] <KotH> use apple-C, apple-V
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  • [10:50:25] <av500> I can handle apple-juice
  • [10:51:17] <KotH> you mean schorle
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  • [11:02:46] <av500> KotH: if you want to dilute it...
  • [11:03:52] <KotH> you're german, you've to drink schorle
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  • [11:04:05] <KotH> swiss drink "moscht"
  • [11:04:06] <KotH> :)
  • [11:05:08] <av500> KotH: also I am non-conforming
  • [11:05:36] <KotH> how can that be? you're from the land of DIN!
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  • [11:23:34] <av500> KotH: http://mark.reid.name/iem/gun-deaths-vs-gun-ownership.html
  • [11:23:41] <av500> switzerland is special :)
  • [11:25:13] <thurbad> and mexico... no one's supposed to have them there
  • [11:26:16] <av500> thurbad: mexico is the role model for the US I guess
  • [11:26:23] <thurbad> heh
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  • [11:27:47] <thurbad> actually I think you woudlwant to be below the diagonal on that graph... USA is right on the linemore or less
  • [11:27:59] <thurbad> mexico and switzerland are actually high
  • [11:28:09] <thurbad> as is canada
  • [11:29:21] <thurbad> not really sure the graph actually shows any meaningful info though
  • [11:30:47] <av500> not to the mentally insane
  • [11:31:08] <av500> and I dont mean that in an offensinve way
  • [11:31:22] <thurbad> no worries
  • [11:31:43] <av500> I am just repeating anti-gun control propaganda
  • [11:32:00] <thurbad> heh
  • [11:32:19] <av500> declaring one self insane is a common defense tactics
  • [11:32:45] * KotH is absolutely sane
  • [11:32:57] <KotH> at least most of us are
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  • [11:32:59] <av500> for a nation to do it is a novelty though
  • [11:33:55] <thurbad> insanity is not a defense in most US states, unless you can prove a mental deficiency
  • [11:34:52] <av500> thurbad: well, this case is not being tried in a court
  • [11:34:55] <thurbad> jury nullification is probably more common than a successful insanity plea
  • [11:35:07] <thurbad> agreed.. just saying
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  • [11:51:47] <Mattylad> Hello folks, can anyone help me identify some of the connectors on the XM rev C please?
  • [11:52:28] <Mattylad> I want to know what HDR_17x2_1.27mm and HDR 2X2_1.27mm are?
  • [11:55:59] <Mattylad> P10,P11,P13, P17,P18 ?
  • [11:56:33] <Mattylad> Can anyone help me find a manufacturers part no for these so I can find the mating parts? thank you.
  • [12:04:52] <ynezz> it's in the docs, isn't it?
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  • [12:05:29] <ynezz> if I remember it correctly it's from MLE - Major League Electronics
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  • [12:05:48] <av500> not MLO?
  • [12:06:47] <ynezz> MLO is borken
  • [12:07:00] <ynezz> mlonday
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  • [12:18:47] <Mattylad> Thank you - I will look at them.
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  • [12:22:49] <Mattylad> Has anyone any idea what the series/range of connectors are called for the HDR 2X2_1.27mm one?
  • [12:23:28] <Mattylad> ynezz - I cannot see it in the docs - they do not give manufacturers part names on all parts.
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  • [12:41:46] <KotH> Mattylad: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=HDR+2X2_1.27mm
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  • [12:58:55] <av500> my 10??? pogoplug arrived
  • [12:58:57] <av500> its...
  • [12:58:59] <av500> ....
  • [12:59:00] <av500> pink
  • [13:00:33] <KotH> lol
  • [13:00:35] <jonand> av500: so much love!
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  • [13:04:09] <LetoThe2nd> av500: makes me think of aerosmith
  • [13:07:23] <KotH> av500: you get what you pay for
  • [13:07:34] <KotH> av500: but your girls will definitly love it! :)
  • [13:15:53] <av500> hmm
  • [13:16:03] <av500> maybe I can bitbang something onto it
  • [13:17:32] <av500> https://github.com/magyarm/beaglebone-fpga
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  • [13:20:40] <koen> hungariarm
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  • [13:56:39] <jkridner_> gm all
  • [13:56:47] <KotH> gr?ezi
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  • [14:22:03] <bfederau_> Hey. I' working with a BeagleBoard xM (TI OMAP3 DM3730 @800Mhz) and a have some problem with the xorg omapfb driver with the xorg server version 13. I always get the following error: "omapdss DPI error: failed to enable display: no manager". Did someone had such a problem too or know how to solve it? Every hint is welcome. :)
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  • [14:31:32] <thurbad> what are you bootargs?
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  • [14:33:51] <av500> https://semiaccurate.com/2012/12/17/atom-versus-tegra-3-in-windows-8-tablets/
  • [14:36:24] <bfederau_> thurbad: setenv bootargs console=ttyO2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait ro omapfb.mode=dvi:1024x768MR-16@60 fixrtc mpurate=800
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  • [15:01:15] <Mattylad> Been away & busy - Koth - Google does NOT provider the answer - I tried that beforehand.
  • [15:01:42] <Mattylad> But thanks for the help guys - now I know where not to bother coming when searching for beagleboard answers.
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  • [15:02:30] <LetoThe2nd> jkridner_: ping
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  • [15:02:51] <jkridner_> pong
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  • [15:55:30] <KotH> .o0(google does provide the answer)
  • [15:58:40] <prpplague> av500: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/12/17/1353255/raspberry-pi-team-launches-pi-store
  • [15:59:50] <emeb> yay - paid apps
  • [15:59:58] <av500> yay
  • [16:00:02] <av500> paid armv6 apps
  • [16:00:31] <emeb> good luck with that...
  • [16:03:12] <emeb> on a platform that's thriving primarily because it costs "$35" I'm guessing the user base isn't going to be spending a lot on software.
  • [16:03:30] <KotH> considering that most of the rpi users seem to be pretty clueless
  • [16:06:40] <av500> well, it has one paid app
  • [16:06:50] <av500> calling it a store is bold
  • [16:07:28] <KotH> or italic
  • [16:07:49] <av500> but it has windows games....
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  • [16:08:29] <panto> av500, so now we have the rpi business plan
  • [16:08:40] <panto> lose money on the h/w, make it up with s/w sales
  • [16:08:46] <panto> lol, good luck with that
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  • [16:22:57] <wmat> panto: have they lost money on the hardware?
  • [16:24:04] <KotH> i doubt it
  • [16:24:34] <KotH> though what they get out of it might be not much
  • [16:25:34] <KotH> prolly something in the range of 10-20usd for parts, add another 5-10usd for production and handling
  • [16:26:27] <KotH> for better numbers ask someone who has more experience with large volume production
  • [16:26:43] <ssvb> av500: calling it a "shop" would be bold, but "store" does not sound too weird at least for me
  • [16:27:40] <wmat> so where's the source for Iridium Rising? Let's check the FAQ: Why is the game not open source?
  • [16:27:42] <ssvb> hmm, but they are also calling it "one-stop shop" :)
  • [16:27:43] <wmat> The game is the result of many years of work, during which we have developed a large codebase that we plan to use as the basis of more games. In addition much of the code is undocumented and therefore it is not obvious how much use it would be to other people.
  • [16:28:10] <KotH> sounds like any oss project
  • [16:29:10] <wmat> ok, so it's a "Raspberry Pi exclusive" why?
  • [16:29:31] <KotH> because it took them many years to get it working on the rpi
  • [16:29:43] <KotH> it would be a lot more work to get it working on a pc
  • [16:30:15] <wmat> i guess we'll never know
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  • [16:39:51] <Crofton|work> KotH, use BOM cost times pi to find selling price you will make moeny with
  • [16:40:02] <Crofton|work> including paying people to design stuff
  • [16:42:04] <KotH> Crofton|work: that doesnt include software yet...and highly depends on the complexity of the product and volume
  • [16:42:41] <KotH> Crofton|work: we usually charge about 100 to 1000 times the bom cost
  • [16:43:19] <KotH> Crofton|work: but i know that for high volume you can make even money with just 101% of bom costs
  • [16:44:26] <Crofton|work> we would all love to be able to charge those margins
  • [16:44:36] <Crofton|work> 101% is a corner case
  • [16:44:39] <panto> lol, one of the first apps for rpi is 'cricket scores LIVE'
  • [16:45:17] <KotH> Crofton|work: our usual volume size is in the range of 10 to 100.. absolute not per year :)
  • [16:46:06] <KotH> Crofton|work: only about a third of the projects we do go into series production, and then it's usually a couple 100 to a few 1000 per year
  • [16:46:44] <wmat> I do hope this app store model increases RPi sales, as that's a good thing right? That will allow the RPi Foundation to continue to fund it's original goals.
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  • [17:28:18] <wmat> not to mention that virtually all new users to elinux.org over the last 6-8 months have been RPi centric
  • [17:31:06] <emeb> rpi store makes top headline on google news tech section. *eyeroll*
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  • [17:38:43] <j105rob> anyone use the beaglebone?
  • [17:39:19] <j105rob> trying to figure out SPI connecting to an lcd
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  • [17:53:26] <wmat> they seem to have great marketing
  • [17:53:48] <prpplague> wmat: indeed
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  • [17:53:49] <emeb> lolpi -> http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/12/beetbox-lets-you-play-root-vegetables-latest-handmade-raspberry-pi-coolness/
  • [17:53:56] <prpplague> wmat: superb actually
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  • [17:54:15] <prpplague> wmat: if TI had put that much effort into panda......well we will never know...
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  • [17:54:31] <wmat> prpplague: no doubt
  • [17:54:57] <wmat> prpplague: they should do it for the Beagle family
  • [17:55:01] <prpplague> wmat: btw, it appears my contract with TI is still valid, just won't be working on panda anymore...
  • [17:55:31] <agmlego> wmat: Well...it also helps that the pricepoint is so much lower.
  • [17:55:52] <emeb> +1
  • [17:55:54] <wmat> agmlego: that doesn't hurt, of course
  • [17:55:57] <agmlego> But yeah, the TI boards have not been nearly as well marketed as they could have been.
  • [17:56:26] <wmat> but for what you get, the costs of both boards are appropriate
  • [17:56:32] <agmlego> Right.
  • [17:56:50] <agmlego> But it still ends up being a $35 board versus a $150-180 board.
  • [17:56:57] <bradfa> prpplague, re TI contract, that's a good thing, right?
  • [17:57:35] <wmat> agmlego: I'd rather see people save another $50 and buy a Beaglebone, but that's just me
  • [17:57:58] <wmat> agmlego: or better yet, start with a RPi and move onto the Beaglebone
  • [17:58:09] <agmlego> wmat: Right, the Bone exists.
  • [17:58:38] <agmlego> wmat: Most of what I do with these boards, I need much higher processing capabilities, so I forget the bone is there.
  • [17:58:50] <agmlego> Still a choice between a $35 board and a $90 one.
  • [17:58:57] <prpplague> bradfa: i'll let you know in a few weeks....
  • [17:59:12] <bradfa> prpplague, well, hopefully you'll get a good outcome
  • [17:59:48] <prpplague> agmlego: whole different market for the panda than the RPi anyway, but the panda could have used that kind of marketing
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  • [17:59:59] <agmlego> prpplague: True.
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  • [18:13:51] <mranostay> prpplague: av500: you guys are making G+ too real :)
  • [18:14:15] <mranostay> can we stick to cats pictures? :)
  • [18:14:27] <KotH> prpplague: cool!
  • [18:15:34] <bradfa> mranostay, +1
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  • [18:17:22] <prpplague> mranostay: hehe
  • [18:17:26] <prpplague> mranostay: too much gun talk?
  • [18:18:15] <mranostay> a bit
  • [18:18:17] <KotH> guns are good
  • [18:18:29] <mranostay> and i own a _few_
  • [18:18:30] <KotH> they help to identify the idiots in the world
  • [18:18:43] <mranostay> KotH: those have them or not? :)
  • [18:18:54] <KotH> they have them :)
  • [18:19:02] <mranostay> don't you have .ch issued Sig-556 under your bed? :)
  • [18:19:44] <mranostay> KotH: i'll admit go to a few states in the South and that is best arguement for gun control :)
  • [18:20:05] <mranostay> prpplague: i'm excluding most of Texas so don't freak out :P
  • [18:20:06] <KotH> mranostay: no, it's not under my bed, it's in my closet
  • [18:20:13] <KotH> mranostay: and it's a 550 :)
  • [18:20:49] <mranostay> prpplague: of course Texas is too west to be south and too south to be west :P
  • [18:20:59] <prpplague> hehe
  • [18:21:20] <prpplague> mranostay: no worries, i don't listen to most of that stuff anyways, hehe
  • [18:22:00] <prpplague> speaking of which
  • [18:22:20] * mranostay runs
  • [18:22:38] <prpplague> koen: i just put my barrett up for sale, gonna use the money to get a bigger gun safe and a better assortment of weapons
  • [18:23:32] <prpplague> koen: beth is going to be so disappointed
  • [18:23:33] <mranostay> also not into spending $4 a round? :)
  • [18:24:22] <prpplague> mranostay: right now it's closer to $50 a round
  • [18:24:46] <prpplague> mranostay: the price has gone sky high in the last year
  • [18:27:07] <Crofton|work> damn it, I really need to speculate in ammo futures
  • [18:27:17] <mranostay> heh
  • [18:27:19] <prpplague> hehe
  • [18:27:32] <mranostay> i believe we call them arms dealers
  • [18:27:52] * prpplague pictures Crofton|work as the next "Lord of War"
  • [18:27:52] * mranostay pictures Crofton|work watching Lord of War to get some pointers :P
  • [18:27:57] <prpplague> HA
  • [18:28:00] <mranostay> creepy
  • [18:29:16] <KotH> prpplague: $50 per round?
  • [18:29:23] <KotH> prpplague: what kind of ammo is that?
  • [18:29:30] <prpplague> KotH: 50cal
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  • [18:29:53] <mranostay> welcome to #guntalk
  • [18:29:57] <KotH> oh..
  • [18:30:00] <KotH> well..
  • [18:30:14] <KotH> prpplague: why the fuck do you have such a bfg?
  • [18:30:27] <mranostay> KotH: for fun probably :)
  • [18:30:40] <mranostay> totally impractical for anything else
  • [18:30:50] <prpplague> KotH: 1) fun 2) because i choose to have one 3) it is the weapon i trained on
  • [18:31:17] <mranostay> prpplague: army?
  • [18:31:22] <prpplague> yea
  • [18:31:25] <KotH> prpplague: ah.. 3) makes actually sense :)
  • [18:32:22] <mranostay> prpplague: Desert Storm?
  • [18:32:39] * mranostay almost typed Dessert Storm
  • [18:32:45] * mranostay gets more coffee
  • [18:32:56] <KotH> dessert wouldnt be bad now
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  • [18:33:57] * KotH wonders whether he would be allowed to have such a large gun
  • [18:34:23] <mranostay> prpplague: 30 pounds?
  • [18:34:44] <KotH> and if i could have it, where could i shoot with it?
  • [18:35:47] <prpplague> mranostay: yea about 30 pounds, a little more with a larger scope
  • [18:36:02] * mranostay pops some kittens in the room to make it less real in here :)
  • [18:36:40] <mranostay> oh boy i get to learn how to use Perforce today
  • [18:37:07] <prpplague> hehe
  • [18:37:12] * prpplague goes back to hacking
  • [18:37:35] <emeb> Perforce - :P
  • [18:37:53] <KotH> prpplague: is perforce still like cvs?
  • [18:38:06] <mranostay> KotH: looks shitty so far so yes
  • [18:38:14] <KotH> er..
  • [18:38:20] * KotH not awake anymore
  • [18:38:32] * emeb had to use Perforce 10yrs ago. Not since. :)
  • [18:38:41] <mranostay> emeb: heartbroken? :)
  • [18:38:45] <KotH> mranostay: what is the reason to use p4 these days?
  • [18:38:54] <mranostay> legacy stuff in house
  • [18:38:56] <emeb> mranostay: not missing it.
  • [18:39:12] * KotH has the same feeling
  • [18:39:12] <mranostay> needs to be moved to a modern system
  • [18:39:27] <emeb> mranostay: see if you can sell 'em on git. :)
  • [18:39:44] <mranostay> although some of "those above" loved it from previous companies
  • [18:39:54] <mranostay> emeb: we use git for anything new
  • [18:40:16] <mranostay> but we had 4 source control systems for a short time.....
  • [18:40:59] <KotH> cvs, p4, svn, git?
  • [18:41:06] <mranostay> bingo
  • [18:41:22] <emeb> the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
  • [18:41:36] <mranostay> some engineer manager started a svn tree i stopped that :)
  • [18:41:49] <KotH> lol
  • [18:41:51] <KotH> why?
  • [18:42:11] <mranostay> KotH: 4 scm systems is a bit much don't you think?
  • [18:42:19] <agmlego> Nah.
  • [18:42:23] <mranostay> he didn't want to learn git or didn't like it
  • [18:42:25] <KotH> nah, why did he start svn when you already had git?
  • [18:42:25] <agmlego> The more the merrier.
  • [18:42:33] <mranostay> he didn't want to learn git or didn't like it
  • [18:42:34] <KotH> o_0
  • [18:42:38] <agmlego> Get bzr in there too.
  • [18:43:02] <KotH> mranostay: here, that'd be a reason to suggest you to look for another job
  • [18:43:21] <mranostay> i'm always 'passively looking' :)
  • [18:43:32] <KotH> eh..
  • [18:43:36] <mranostay> when did that become a term btw :P
  • [18:44:04] <KotH> i rather meant that if someone at our company would introduce a tool, because he didnt like what everyone else uses, then people would suggest him to look for another job
  • [18:44:28] <mranostay> ah well in a sane world that is way it would work :)
  • [18:44:39] <KotH> our company is mostly sane
  • [18:44:46] <mranostay> KotH: how many people?
  • [18:44:49] <KotH> you cannot afford insanity if you are only 10 people
  • [18:44:56] <mranostay> ah yes
  • [18:45:04] <mranostay> after 20 or so it all goes to hell
  • [18:45:11] <KotH> yeah
  • [18:45:15] * mranostay pokes mdp :)
  • [18:45:19] <KotH> though i know companies with >50 that are still sane
  • [18:45:40] <mranostay> KotH: there are a exceptions of course
  • [18:45:43] <KotH> and i have seen one from the inside with 30 people that behaved like a multinational megacorp
  • [18:45:59] <mranostay> heh those are the fun ones....
  • [18:51:06] <KotH> yeah...
  • [18:51:11] <KotH> up to the point of using SAP
  • [18:51:17] <KotH> for everything
  • [18:51:30] <mranostay> for 30 people?
  • [18:51:42] <mranostay> banking software or something?
  • [18:52:13] <KotH> nope
  • [18:52:23] <KotH> tv and radio consumption measurement
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  • [18:54:56] <mranostay> ah the swiss version of Nielsen rating?
  • [18:55:32] <KotH> exactly
  • [18:55:52] <KotH> there are iirc 5 or 6 companies world wide that provide such devices
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  • [19:03:31] <djlewis> they would draw a deaf ear from me
  • [19:04:15] <KotH> even if you dont consume, you are important to be measured
  • [19:04:21] <KotH> for the statistics :)
  • [19:05:05] <djlewis> put me down in the minority that does not watch tv or go to movies or rent movies, etc
  • [19:05:49] <spacecolonyone> Anyone had issues with journalctl and the bug "Failed to iterate through journal: Bad message" with systemd 44 on angstrom?
  • [19:07:48] <spacecolonyone> There are a handful of known bugs related to this message on the web, with various indications of being patched. I'm a little hesitant to bug #systemd as v44 is a bit dated.
  • [19:08:34] <KotH> you dont want to know my oppinion on using systemd
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  • [19:17:16] <spacecolonyone> heh, I've actually quite liked it
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  • [19:39:50] <ds2> 8
  • [19:39:52] <ds2> blah
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  • [19:40:24] <emeb> ds2: has the blahs
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  • [19:42:26] <ds2> indeed... too much rain
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  • [19:46:26] <edahling> 'ip link set can0 type can bitrate 50000 triple-sampling on'
  • [19:46:32] <edahling> That works fine, so I start the interface.
  • [19:46:38] <edahling> 'ip link set can0 up'
  • [19:46:47] <edahling> This also succeeds, so I send a message.
  • [19:47:02] <edahling> 'cansend can0 -i 0x01 0x00 0x11 0x22'
  • [19:47:06] <edahling> This also works.
  • [19:47:19] <edahling> But when I look at the TX pin on the beaglebone, nothing is happening.
  • [19:47:45] <mranostay> try harder
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  • [19:47:50] <edahling> Haha. Okay.
  • [19:48:24] <edahling> I've hooked it up to a can transceiver, and made the bus properly -- capping it with resistors like I'm supposed to.
  • [19:48:40] <edahling> Do you have any insight as to why this isn't working?
  • [19:53:43] <mranostay> you sure you have the muxing correct?
  • [19:55:09] <edahling> Almost entirely positive.
  • [19:55:12] <edahling> I suppose I can check.
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  • [19:56:31] <edahling> {"uart1_rtsn.d_can1_tx", OMAP_MUX_MODE2 | AM33XX_PIN_OUTPUT }
  • [19:56:32] <edahling> {"uart1_ctsn.d_can1_rx", OMAP_MUX_MODE2 | AM33XX_PIN_INPUT_PULLUP },
  • [19:56:34] <edahling> Yep.
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  • [20:01:02] <mranostay> i don't know much about CAN buses but shouldn't the TX line be a pullup as well?
  • [20:02:25] <agmlego> I thought CAN was differentially-signalled.
  • [20:02:44] <edahling> CAN is only differentially signaled after it comes out of the CAN transceiver.
  • [20:02:53] <edahling> Out of the BB it's just a regular signal.
  • [20:03:18] <edahling> I don't think so, but I can try that.
  • [20:03:53] <agmlego> Ah.
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  • [20:36:49] <mranostay> koen: dangerous with boards today i see
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  • [20:46:06] <mranostay> that tickles
  • [20:48:48] <mranostay> Tartarus: how is it in trained bootloader monkey land?
  • [20:48:54] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [20:49:02] <Crofton|work> god, that was an epic comment
  • [20:49:23] <Tartarus> same old same old :)
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  • [20:50:02] <mranostay> Tartarus: are least you are trained :P
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  • [22:33:09] <mranostay> jkridner_: what is the all the ops?
  • [22:38:54] * djlewis suspects jkridner_ gets tired of doing all the baby sitting
  • [22:40:04] <djlewis> mranostay: were you around the other day when mr porn chimed in?
  • [22:40:17] <mranostay> missed that one
  • [22:40:26] * mranostay pulls up logs
  • [22:42:15] <emeb> were your logs falling down? Get a belt.
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  • [22:47:25] <mranostay> cute
  • [22:51:20] <thurbad> the one that wanted to rape someone's mom? or was that a separate instance?
  • [22:51:35] <mranostay> interesting
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  • [22:51:52] <thurbad> yeah an op that was awake would have been nice
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  • [22:52:32] <mranostay> i vaguely remember that
  • [22:53:21] <mranostay> i swear everyone in this channel is either 13 or 40 :P
  • [22:53:29] <woglinde> I am 12
  • [22:53:42] <thurbad> I'm nearly the latter
  • [22:53:54] <woglinde> my wife tells me sometimes
  • [22:54:21] <woglinde> okay good nite
  • [22:54:53] <thurbad> heh
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  • [23:07:41] <djlewis> mranostay: shakes his logs
  • [23:09:17] * emeb laughs
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  • [23:28:32] <mranostay> djlewis: this is a family channel
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  • [23:31:01] * djlewis shutters at seeing so many ops too. . .
  • [23:32:00] <djlewis> later, time to head home.. :)
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