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  • [00:18:18] <prpplague> mru: man i wish i had recorded the folks coming up the panda booth this weekend
  • [00:18:39] <prpplague> mru: my favorite one was "is this a super expensive Raspberry-Pi?"
  • [00:20:48] <mru> hmm
  • [00:24:36] <muhoo> hehe
  • [00:25:01] <muhoo> there are other arm boards now for US$25
  • [00:25:14] <muhoo> beaglebone is among the highest priced, it seems
  • [00:26:11] <mru> bone is much less than that
  • [00:31:34] * mranostay talks in his apartment like a madman
  • [00:32:35] <mranostay> prpplague: did you track them down in the parking lot?
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  • [00:34:17] <thurbad> it's small .. it must be copying the r:pi... right?
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  • [00:36:22] * mdp sees trolls
  • [00:37:13] <mru> trolls? on my irc?
  • [00:37:14] <mru> no way
  • [00:38:00] * _troll_ lurks
  • [00:44:46] <mdp> i was right
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  • [01:04:38] <mranostay> mdp: don't feed the trools
  • [01:04:43] <mranostay> *trolls even
  • [01:08:09] <mdp> mranostay: speaking of trolls..i'm reading exynos chromebook details and wondering why people don't carry around an rpi, kbd, lcd, and battery? seems simpler and cheaper to use rpi
  • [01:08:46] <agmlego> Um, cases.
  • [01:09:50] <mru> mdp: that exonys is a dual A15, right?
  • [01:09:59] <mdp> yes
  • [01:10:11] <mru> so 16 execution units in total
  • [01:10:20] <mru> you'd need 16 rpi to match that
  • [01:10:57] <mdp> and asthe team has been sharing publicly, like x86 chromebooks,there's a developermode so you can load whatever os you want.
  • [01:11:38] <mranostay> heh
  • [01:11:51] <mru> neither the weight nor the battery life are significantly better than my laptop
  • [01:11:53] <mranostay> chrome books are locked down?
  • [01:11:58] <mru> why should I get one of those?
  • [01:12:12] <mru> and everything else is much worse
  • [01:12:19] <mdp> mru, quit trying to confuse me with the facts
  • [01:12:43] <mranostay> mru: 16 r-pi cluster!?!?
  • [01:12:45] <mdp> mranostay, no. you hard me wrong :)
  • [01:12:58] <mdp> heard
  • [01:13:16] <mru> mranostay: doesn't sound exactly practical
  • [01:13:26] <mru> what with them not having reliable networking and all
  • [01:14:24] <mranostay> mru: who needs that? :P
  • [01:16:12] <mdp> you can't beat $25. i heard a guy is running Unity on Rpi. my sisters friends brothers uncles dentist is using it for his desktop
  • [01:16:34] <mru> of course it's not actually $25
  • [01:16:37] <mranostay> not at work right :)
  • [01:16:46] <mru> it's $35 for the "usable" model
  • [01:16:49] <mranostay> heh
  • [01:16:51] <mru> + shipping
  • [01:17:00] <mdp> more facts
  • [01:17:04] <mranostay> mru: coworker said it cost him $45
  • [01:17:06] <mdp> *yawn*
  • [01:17:11] <mru> and it still doesn't work
  • [01:17:22] <mranostay> he got 3 for some weird reason
  • [01:17:40] <mranostay> weird college grads with a money to blow :P
  • [01:17:46] <mru> that is weird
  • [01:18:59] <mdp> mranostay, you should tell him he could have gotten 7 ARM boards for the price of 1 RPi
  • [01:19:20] <mranostay> if i want to waste money it is going to be on hookers and blow
  • [01:19:29] <mranostay> did i say that out loud? :P
  • [01:19:46] <mranostay> mdp: did those TI launchpad gets shipped out?
  • [01:20:03] <mdp> you used to mumble that a lot when we sat in the same office too ;)
  • [01:20:38] <mdp> mranostay: i dont have mine but others do
  • [01:21:05] <mdp> it is a promo price, of course
  • [01:21:21] <mranostay> yeah well they charged the promo price to my card :)
  • [01:21:35] <mdp> a Due is $45 :)
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  • [01:29:47] <mranostay> mdp: so brushing up on gangnam style or you have other progress?
  • [01:30:14] <mdp> making progress now...it'll be a long two weeks
  • [01:30:37] <mdp> i may have to do that or karaoke if I fail
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  • [01:32:23] <mdp> hopefully tomorrow i'm done tweaking the pru 65xx bus emulation and can work mostly on the vqueue hacks
  • [01:32:47] <mranostay> mdp: i showed the hitler remix to a friend she wasn't impressed :)
  • [01:33:51] <mdp> bah
  • [01:34:37] <mranostay> this all gpmc, correct?
  • [01:34:42] <mdp> no
  • [01:36:10] <mdp> i was originally doing an sram on gpmc for the 6502 memory and then realized that emulating 65xx bus allowed better virtio reuse
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  • [01:41:46] <mdp> because dual port srams are expensive and I was too cheap to get one
  • [01:44:26] <mranostay> what is the BOM cost so far?
  • [01:44:41] <agmlego> 4
  • [01:45:39] <mranostay> 4 what?
  • [01:45:45] <agmlego> Yes.
  • [01:45:57] <agmlego> 4 ghjfes
  • [01:46:12] <agmlego> Where a ghjfe is one quarter of the current BOM cost.
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  • [01:48:55] <mranostay> someone needs to sober up :)
  • [01:50:10] <agmlego> mranostay: Totally sober here.
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  • [01:57:33] <mranostay> ok that is more scary :P
  • [02:03:06] <mru> mranostay: being sober scares you?
  • [02:03:33] <mdp> mranostay, $8
  • [02:03:49] <mranostay> mru: no making 'ghjfe' up sober does :P
  • [02:05:00] <mru> how about a 'ghnrhl'?
  • [02:05:05] * mru made that up just now
  • [02:05:05] <agmlego> mranostay: How is that scary?
  • [02:05:34] <mranostay> mru: is that a 1/8 BOM cost? :P
  • [02:05:41] <mru> or a 'mrgbfn'?
  • [02:07:09] <mdp> mranostay: next you'll probably ask when it will be ready :)
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  • [02:10:47] <mru> mdp: it'll be available in a few snkfls
  • [02:12:39] <mranostay> for asfdsf price?
  • [02:14:36] <mru> mranostay: now you're making stuff up... does that mean you're not sober?
  • [02:15:03] <mranostay> completely sober
  • [02:15:36] <mru> me too, haven't been drinking for over 3h
  • [02:15:55] <mranostay> although heading to the pub right now to meet an old EA guy :P
  • [02:16:05] <mranostay> sunday i have to be somewhat responsible
  • [02:16:45] <mru> just remember, everything is best in moderation
  • [02:17:09] <mranostay> mru: ok mom :)
  • [02:17:14] <mru> including responsibility
  • [02:17:38] <mranostay> that is more like it
  • [02:17:49] <mru> I did say 'everything'
  • [02:21:33] <ka6sox> I'm sure mru has been called a lot of things...but I don't think "mom" is one of them.
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  • [02:29:20] <ariiiii> hello
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  • [03:55:02] <prpplague> koen: greetings earthling
  • [03:55:30] <prpplague> mru: you know a kernel developer named Andrew Dodd?
  • [04:13:33] <ds2> ;2A
  • [04:20:08] <emeb_mac> 2 amps of what?
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  • [04:28:14] <ds2> spark gaps
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  • [04:37:30] <emeb_mac> building a HV display for halloween?
  • [04:45:25] <mranostay> back
  • [04:45:31] <mranostay> i mean dfasfasdf
  • [04:47:10] <mranostay> hi dfasdfd ds2
  • [05:00:37] <emeb_mac> for variety, try getting off the home row.
  • [05:01:05] <mranostay> emeb_mac: ewrqwrqwer
  • [05:01:20] <mranostay> better?
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  • [05:01:40] <thurbad> qwerty?
  • [05:02:28] <mranostay> yes that is my keyboard
  • [05:09:40] <emeb_mac> I'm thinking diagonals next.
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  • [05:38:01] <mranostay> emeb_mac: connect 4?
  • [05:38:21] <emeb_mac> 4rfv - why not?
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  • [05:51:17] <_av500_> yo
  • [05:52:18] <mranostay> noooooo!
  • [05:52:48] <emeb_mac> yo heave-ho
  • [05:53:05] <mranostay> _av500_: how was the week in the boonies?
  • [05:53:45] <_av500_> relaxing
  • [05:54:01] <_av500_> kids got up at 6 voluntarily
  • [05:54:11] <_av500_> and came back at dusk
  • [05:54:15] <_av500_> if at all
  • [05:54:52] <thurbad> leave any behind?
  • [05:55:20] <_av500_> let me check
  • [05:55:32] <mranostay> O_O
  • [05:56:37] <_av500_> all accounted for :)
  • [05:56:44] <emeb_mac> they stopped playing "call me maybe" so they got to come home.
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  • [05:57:28] <mranostay> that song isn't really that bad
  • [05:57:30] * mranostay ducks
  • [05:57:42] * emeb_mac throws a balled-up sock
  • [05:57:54] <_av500_> it sticks to the wall
  • [05:58:12] <emeb_mac> hmmm - time to wipe the walls down.
  • [05:58:24] <_av500_> use the sock
  • [06:01:41] <_av500_> mranostay: i posted u a sunrise
  • [06:08:09] <mranostay> _av500_: i thought you only did sunsets!
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  • [06:18:46] <_av500_> I am programed in multiple techniques
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  • [06:26:12] <emeb_mac> a broad variety...
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  • [06:44:45] <mranostay> _av500_: how about high noon?
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  • [06:58:17] <_av500_> mranostay: if you insist
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  • [07:01:25] * mranostay thinks this cat is plotting
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  • [07:01:42] <emeb_mac> but it looks so innocent?
  • [07:02:30] <mranostay> isn't that a sign?
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  • [08:39:16] <av500> aargh: http://christianheilmann.com/2012/10/22/dont-call-it-open-source-unless-you-mean-it/
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  • [08:39:41] <av500> I will call it "publicly visible source code" then......
  • [08:39:54] * ka6sox is now known as ka6sox-away
  • [08:42:01] <dm8tbr> av500: public surface code? ;)
  • [08:42:16] <av500> pubecode
  • [08:42:53] <av500> i'll print t-shirts: All I wanted was a printer driver, not a community
  • [08:43:57] <dm8tbr> :D
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  • [09:49:19] <arasi> Hi i am using TI SDK for am335x evm board.So i cross compiled MLO u-boot uImage and i want to port my own file sysytem how to compile file system.
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  • [09:56:12] <av500> arasi: neither the TI SDK nor the am335x EVM are supported here
  • [09:56:31] <av500> you bought stuff from TI, so ask TI
  • [09:56:45] <av500> alternatively, provide some free EVMs :)
  • [10:02:37] <mdp> hrm, ti sdk is publicly visible codez
  • [10:04:08] <av500> I fail to find it on beagleboard.org
  • [10:04:36] <av500> same for the EVM
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  • [10:14:39] <mdp> agreed, it seems to be offtopic for this channel
  • [10:14:53] <mdp> no beagle in the name either
  • [10:15:33] <mdp> arasi: e2e forums have a lot of ti sdk discussion
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  • [12:37:58] <sd--> i have a ti am335x beagle board... can i burn the mlo and uboot to nand through uboot prompt or must I have access to a jtag emulator like xds560?
  • [12:39:00] <iPhoneMRZ> Who use compile for dsp of beagleboard-xm?
  • [12:40:45] <av500> sd--: does it have nand at all?
  • [12:41:25] <thurbad> didn't think the beaglebone had nand
  • [12:41:45] <av500> neither have newer BBs
  • [12:43:03] <sd--> how do i know if my board is beagle bone? the cd it came with says beagle bone on it ..but not the kit
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  • [12:43:18] <sd--> yes I do have nand
  • [12:43:32] <av500> then I guess you have the TI am335x EVM
  • [12:43:32] <sd--> actually not the cd..the sd card that boots linux
  • [12:43:34] <av500> no?
  • [12:43:48] <sd--> yes i do..thats not beagle bone?
  • [12:43:53] <av500> no
  • [12:44:05] <av500> its the TI am335x EVM
  • [12:44:18] <av500> no?
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  • [12:44:48] <sd--> yes I guess I got confused since the sd card that it came with has a welcome to beaglebone file in it
  • [12:45:05] <sd--> what is beagle bone btw?
  • [12:45:14] <av500> what is google?
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  • [12:46:17] <thurbad> meh... work time... again
  • [12:48:24] <sd--> thanks i c what it is now
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  • [13:23:20] <arcanescu> well this is confusing : sudo apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf most links point to < this toolchain for armhf... i got one for linaro and its not compatible for ARM..... and its not avaialble in ubuntu packages ?
  • [13:24:05] <av500> linaro toolchain not for ARM?
  • [13:24:37] <arcanescu> yes.... thats what i get the terminal telling me
  • [13:25:46] <arcanescu> gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-2012.09-20120921_linux i downloaded this package from linaros web
  • [13:26:28] <arcanescu> is it a version issue or i need an older compiler or what?
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  • [13:32:12] <av500> OMAP3 meets Google glasses: http://www.motorola.com/Business/US-EN/Business+Product+and+Services/Mobile+Computers/Wearable+Computers/HC1
  • [13:32:48] <arcanescu> av500: can you point me to the correct toolchain for compiling 12.04+ kernel.....
  • [13:33:18] <arcanescu> most google links point to apt-get ... and the package doesnt seem to be there anymore..
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  • [13:36:23] <av500> arcanescu: I haz no idea about apt fu
  • [13:37:38] <arcanescu> av500: i dont want you to know abt apt im just asking if you can point me to a toolchain that wud compile 12.04+
  • [13:39:20] <arcanescu> av500: nvm
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  • [13:42:34] <mdp> av500, fact checker fail: there is no OMAP3(tm) 3730
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  • [13:43:19] <mru> mdp: 36, 37.. big difference
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  • [13:43:54] <mdp> mru, it's the difference between ten and eleven!
  • [13:44:07] <mru> so if ti sell omap, they'll get rid of the 36xx but not the 37xx...
  • [13:46:04] <mdp> it seems dm3730 is a popular choice for wearable computing...recon uses it as well for their products
  • [13:46:20] <av500> mdp: yes, the recon guy is/was here
  • [13:46:25] <av500> forgot the nick
  • [13:46:41] <mdp> ahh, cool...old customer
  • [13:46:51] <av500> I guess he's out on recon...
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  • [13:47:49] <mdp> recon is why I found google glasses to be uninspiring
  • [13:48:45] <av500> how can you find something uninspiring that you dont know what it is?
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  • [13:48:55] <mdp> exactly ;)
  • [13:49:10] <mru> the bigger the hype, the less I care
  • [13:50:39] <mdp> basically they showed off a clone of the looxcie.com streaming camera...with a stunt. *yawn*
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  • [13:51:28] <av500> mdp: yes, that is yawn
  • [13:51:37] <av500> but I dount google glasses are just a head mounted camera
  • [13:51:39] <av500> doubt
  • [13:52:01] <av500> but it's what they made everybody think with the stunt and the fashion show video
  • [13:52:02] <mru> they're a head-mounted camera with added hype
  • [13:52:06] <av500> yep
  • [13:52:16] <mdp> call me maybe when something works.
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  • [13:56:23] * mru does not dare do that, being on the same continent
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  • [13:56:52] <av500> I can manage
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  • [14:03:26] <bradfa> mdp, when you get some free time and your am335x evm dusted off, can you try uart3 on profile5 with u-boot from git://github.com/bradfa/u-boot.git please?
  • [14:03:42] <bradfa> branch bone-uart-patches-for-mainline-v2
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  • [14:04:21] <bradfa> if you get good results, I'll send v2 patches to u-boot list
  • [14:04:24] <bradfa> thanks!
  • [14:04:50] <dm8tbr> mmmm, don't look into CEO with remaining eye... http://www.dilbert.com/2012-10-22/
  • [14:05:31] <bradfa> I've tested with uarts 1,2,4,5 on bone with good results
  • [14:05:48] <bradfa> and less hacking of common code! :) marek's patches for serial rework made my life easy
  • [14:05:53] <mdp> bradfa: certainly, in fact, great timing as I had to dust it off to test the edma series
  • [14:06:01] <bradfa> mdp, awesome! :)
  • [14:06:14] <bradfa> make am335x_evm_uart3_config <- probably what you want
  • [14:06:20] <mdp> ok
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  • [14:07:05] <bradfa> uart 2, 3, 4, and 5 should all work with various profiles on the evm, if the docs are correct, most of them match up with pin-muxing available on the bone
  • [14:07:07] <bradfa> which is nice
  • [14:07:07] <mdp> reworking office network due to a dead switch then I'll give it a try
  • [14:07:16] <bradfa> NO CARRIER!!
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  • [14:10:02] <mdp> yeah, my power controller was inaccessible...I shed a tear
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  • [14:12:24] <av500> shed a bike
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  • [14:13:07] <av500> ....On the technical side, AMD is going to put other cores in to their CPUs, most notably ARM cores. ...
  • [14:13:37] <bradfa> link?
  • [14:14:09] <mru> just another blogger making stuff up
  • [14:14:21] <mdp> amazon is buying ARM
  • [14:14:39] <av500> bradfa: https://semiaccurate.com/2012/10/22/amd-opens-up-a-little-during-the-q3-analyst-call/
  • [14:14:48] <av500> s|a so grain of salt applies
  • [14:14:57] <av500> but from analyst call, so maybe even true :)
  • [14:15:06] * mru orders some 3-foot salt crystals
  • [14:15:10] <bradfa> maybe they should re-up their security cert...
  • [14:15:12] <bradfa> This Connection is Untrusted
  • [14:15:14] <av500> yes
  • [14:15:19] <av500> I lol every time
  • [14:15:29] <bradfa> expired in 2010
  • [14:15:39] <bradfa> go go scare away readers!
  • [14:15:41] <av500> anyway, I dont give much for certs
  • [14:15:58] <av500> its the stupid browsers that insist on them
  • [14:16:14] <av500> at least chrome has a 1-click ignore
  • [14:16:23] <av500> unlike FF that makes you jump through hoops
  • [14:16:34] <bradfa> I like my firefox hoops!
  • [14:16:42] <bradfa> make me get in shape, all that jumping!
  • [14:16:51] <av500> hoops on fire for you
  • [14:18:31] <emeb_mac> an 'oop! Oh Oh, no more buttered scones for me mater, I'm off to play the graaaand piano!
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  • [15:30:37] <mranostay> av500: sunrise time!
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  • [15:36:54] <av500> mranostay: post one :)
  • [15:37:25] <mranostay> cloudy atm
  • [15:38:17] <mranostay> it is CA winter here. aka little rain
  • [15:39:08] <mranostay> and yes 101 is slower than normal
  • [15:39:35] <av500> but then you have time to chat on irc :)
  • [15:40:04] <mru> all this chatting really ircs me
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  • [15:41:19] <mranostay> mru: how are you threeday?
  • [15:41:57] <mru> I'm just twoderful, thanks five asking
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  • [16:05:31] <adam___> anyone out there with BeagleBone CAN experience?
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  • [16:10:29] <mru> my beaglebone came in a can
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  • [16:13:32] <av500> mine just can!
  • [16:13:48] <emeb> call it the CAN can.
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  • [17:03:24] <prpplague> koen: i really need to talk with you about that angstrom SOW for panda
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  • [17:49:00] <dm8tbr> av500: red or blue?
  • [17:49:20] <av500> let me google that
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  • [17:49:55] <dm8tbr> av500: blue or red?
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  • [17:50:49] <dm8tbr> meh
  • [17:50:50] <dm8tbr> sorry, scrollback failure
  • [17:50:50] <dm8tbr> was still on your bikeshed comment...
  • [17:50:50] <dm8tbr> too much time on airports today...
  • [17:52:08] <av500> ah
  • [17:52:10] <av500> green
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  • [18:38:21] <mdp> bradfa, am335x_evm_uart3_config works, feel free to add my tested by line
  • [18:38:42] <bradfa> mdp, awesome! thanks!
  • [18:38:46] <bradfa> hope to send patches out today
  • [18:38:49] <mdp> np, thank you!
  • [18:39:47] <bradfa> I notice, in mainline u-boot, when loading a kernel over tftp, if I then reboot cleanly, the A5 and A6 bone Ethernet LEDs reverse their default state
  • [18:40:39] <bradfa> A6 goes from orange and green normally on (100 Mb full duplex) with green blinking off during activity TO orange and green off with green blinking on during activity
  • [18:42:42] <bradfa> on A5, orange is normally off green normally on with green blink off for activity, then after reboot orange is still normally off (suppose due to resistor changes for A5/A6) and green off with green blink on for activity
  • [18:43:11] <bradfa> will be looking into that real soon now
  • [18:43:48] <bradfa> running evil vendor kernel, but the kernel seems to just keep what ever state u-boot left the PHY (assuming that's who's doing the blinking) in
  • [18:49:26] <bradfa> mdp, Tested-by: line goes on all 4 patches?
  • [18:51:16] <mdp> that's fine, essentially tested all of them by doing this
  • [18:51:34] <bradfa> mdp, k, thanks!
  • [18:51:53] <mdp> too bad my one bone can't get aneg to complete
  • [18:52:34] <bradfa> aneg?
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  • [18:53:10] <Russ> autonegotiation
  • [18:53:21] * djlewis puts headphones on to watch jkridner talk about our beloved BeagleBone.
  • [18:53:41] <woglinde> djlewise where?
  • [18:53:47] <jkridner> not gonna share it with the world? :)
  • [18:53:48] <woglinde> and why you nead headphones?
  • [18:54:26] <bradfa> woglinde, so djlewis can drown out the sound of jkridner talking?
  • [18:54:50] <djlewis> lol, its the one on beagleboard.org now.
  • [18:55:01] <djlewis> Seems jkridner has an old MTV cameraman
  • [18:55:06] <mdp> koen: after hearing about the pwm/enet interaction I live in fear of running the wrong peripheral and taking out ethernet ;)
  • [18:55:21] <ds2> delete ethernet;
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  • [19:00:02] <mdp> heh
  • [19:00:29] <mdp> ds2, wait, I was told if I deleted USB then my life would be better
  • [19:00:34] <mdp> ethernet too now
  • [19:00:47] * mdp weighs this dilemna
  • [19:01:08] <_av500_> mdp: buy a boat
  • [19:01:49] <mdp> _av500_: no, no. too smart for that. I have friends with boats. that's the way to go
  • [19:04:14] <_av500_> catch shrimp much?
  • [19:12:49] <prpplague> anyone know if koen is on holiday or something?
  • [19:13:26] <djlewis> he's ignoring you ;)
  • [19:15:03] <prpplague> djlewis: seems so
  • [19:15:22] <prpplague> djlewis: but then again i am used to people ignoring me
  • [19:17:34] <djlewis> prpplague: that's two of us
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  • [19:18:05] <mdp> prpplague: he was around this morning
  • [19:18:23] <mdp> my morning
  • [19:18:30] <djlewis> whenever that is
  • [19:18:48] <djlewis> my morning went far too fast
  • [19:19:04] <mdp> djlewis, it was some time ago
  • [19:19:13] * djlewis works the last half the daylight hours
  • [19:19:16] * mdp adds details
  • [19:19:37] <djlewis> living in CST here
  • [19:19:45] <djlewis> or is that CDT
  • [19:19:54] <mdp> "central"
  • [19:20:23] <djlewis> argh.. its gonna be one of those brain fart kinda afternoons
  • [19:21:03] * mdp goes back to ignoring prpplague
  • [19:21:03] <_av500_> do it like me, work in UGT
  • [19:21:17] <mdp> or "ugh"
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  • [19:22:43] <n00b_> Can anyone recommend a subversion client to run on the beaglebone?
  • [19:22:52] <prpplague> mdp: hehe
  • [19:22:54] <bradfa> mdp, should my v2 patches be "in reply to" my v1 patches?
  • [19:23:19] <mdp> bradfa, no repost the whole series
  • [19:23:22] <djlewis> how about an index or next and back buttons on 26+26=54
  • [19:23:27] <bradfa> k, going now
  • [19:23:37] <mdp> bradfa, don't forget the "changes since v1" in your cover letter
  • [19:23:57] <mdp> "ridiculously cool uart3 option added!"
  • [19:23:59] <bradfa> mdp, got that, and put changes since v1 in each patch too
  • [19:24:23] <mdp> cool
  • [19:24:40] <djlewis> add "first" and "last" buttons too.
  • [19:24:45] <_av500_> djlewis: see pm
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  • [19:26:45] <bradfa> mdp, thanks for your help on this! now I have to go write word doc test plans... fun time is over :(
  • [19:26:56] <mdp> my condolences
  • [19:27:07] <mdp> no chance for LaTeX, eh? ;)
  • [19:27:21] <bradfa> ceo likes word, he took my markdown to html and made it a word doc
  • [19:27:37] <mdp> I hear it's popular with normal people
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  • [20:00:11] <bradfa> rabryn, I don't think mainline u-boot supports USB yet for am335x but that's from memory and if pressed I don't have hard facts to back it up without some searching
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  • [20:09:01] <bradfa> mdp, pong
  • [20:09:48] <ds2> hmmmm
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  • [20:16:38] <rabryn> bradfa, sorry, my connection died... that's what i've found from searching. i found some patches and tried to integrate them into my build but no success. was just hoping someone had hacked something together already...
  • [20:17:35] <bradfa> rabryn, I think it's in the works, usb and boot from flash I believe are big deals and should be coming real soon now, I just don't have a use for either right now so I'm not paying much attention
  • [20:17:50] <rabryn> np
  • [20:18:29] <rabryn> when you say, "boot from flash", are you referring to booting from nand?
  • [20:20:07] <bradfa> rabryn, yes
  • [20:20:44] <mdp> It seems like ilya's addition of musb-new is a step toward better support
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  • [20:20:59] <mdp> bradfa, how is cpsw working for you on 2012.10?
  • [20:21:50] <rabryn> i assumed u-boot supported booting from nand...
  • [20:24:23] <bradfa> mdp, tftp loads kernel faster than evil vendor u-boot but the LEDs on the PHY invert at reset
  • [20:24:45] <bradfa> mdp, I plug to a 10/100 switch, I've not seen any issues other than the LEDs
  • [20:24:49] <mdp> I get no link light now
  • [20:25:01] <mdp> worked on -rc3
  • [20:25:02] <bradfa> mdp, every other "reset" causes LEDs to invert
  • [20:25:19] <bradfa> mdp, if you pull all power out, power up to u-boot prompt, you get no LEDs?
  • [20:25:27] <bradfa> on A6 or older bone?
  • [20:25:28] <mdp> somebody else just told me that they get no link list on 2012.10
  • [20:25:32] <mdp> a5
  • [20:25:34] <rabryn> regarding u-boot and usb, i'm looking to load a kernel and minimal rfs into ram, boot the kernel with params to mount the ram based rfs to ultimately rewrite the kernel/rfs in nand (kind of a disaster recovery mechanism).
  • [20:26:00] <bradfa> mdp, A5 should give green light on 100 full dup
  • [20:26:03] <bradfa> for link
  • [20:26:11] <bradfa> A6 should give both green and orange
  • [20:26:13] <mdp> bradfa, given how much am180x emac hates a real hub, I'm thinking ethernet is not our strong suit
  • [20:26:36] <mdp> bradfa, no connection at all on my network gear
  • [20:26:52] <mdp> this is a different a5 so I'll try my known good one with the release version
  • [20:26:52] <bradfa> mdp, oh, wait, just noticed I'm testing with 2012.10-rc2...
  • [20:27:03] <bradfa> hmmm
  • [20:28:01] <mdp> ahas
  • [20:28:40] <bradfa> rebuilding...
  • [20:30:13] <mdp> c7c6322 Prepare v2012.10-rc3 is what has been working for me
  • [20:30:56] <bradfa> mdp, no issue loading via tftp and A6 has both green and orange lights on with 100 full dup
  • [20:31:05] <bradfa> 2012.10-00256-g322bea1
  • [20:31:14] <bradfa> master from Saturday with my uart patches on top
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  • [20:31:46] <bradfa> mdp, inverting LEDs issue still present with 'reset' from u-boot cmd line
  • [20:32:10] <bradfa> I have to head home now, but will debug in the morning if I can
  • [20:32:14] <bradfa> ttyl
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  • [20:40:56] <_av500_> blech sawdust
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  • [20:42:45] <ds2> buying cheap cinnamon again, _av500_?
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  • [20:47:18] <_av500_> no
  • [20:47:24] <_av500_> woodworking
  • [20:47:31] <_av500_> cutting MDF
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  • [20:50:49] <ds2> MDF hasn't been banded in the EU yet?
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  • [20:52:08] <mdp> ds2, ;)
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  • [21:21:00] <djlewis> wouldn't it be nice if all the listed BeagleBone capes had a cape compatibility list?
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  • [21:23:26] <_av500_> ds2: nope
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  • [21:26:54] <mdp> djlewis: all the CCO capes?
  • [21:27:43] <_av500_> ds2: why should it?
  • [21:27:58] <ds2> that glue releases noxious fumes
  • [21:28:07] <ds2> it out gasses forever
  • [21:28:20] <ds2> if there is anything that should be RoHS banned, it is the MDF glues
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  • [21:31:21] <djlewis> mdp: it would be nice to nkow what will stack and what wont without having to review schematics. layout, component placement etc.
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  • [21:32:02] <djlewis> but then where is the adventure in all the info being readily available ;)
  • [21:32:03] <_av500_> ds2: yes, but my google research says its ok
  • [21:32:16] <_av500_> and I assume the stuff here is built to higher standards :)
  • [21:32:18] <djlewis> is that stuff used in fema trailers ;)
  • [21:32:23] <mdp> djlewis, certainly, I think CCO should be providing a decoder ring for that
  • [21:32:43] <mdp> djlewis, it's one of the few things that isn't a TI problem ;)
  • [21:32:57] <djlewis> mdp: 20 plus capes and counting
  • [21:33:35] <ds2> _av500_: don't they all come from the same factories in china? :D
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  • [21:34:19] <_av500_> doubt it
  • [21:34:23] <djlewis> ds2: whats a little formaldehyde amongst family?
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  • [21:35:02] <ds2> have them come out with an adapter cape to use xM/Classic accessories?
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  • [21:35:32] <_av500_> we might soon need a capestarter website
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  • [21:36:42] <mdp> 32 core 6502 cape...featuring "The Greatest MPU _ever_(tm)"
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  • [21:37:19] <mdp> "Help us reach $1.2B in funding an make this cape happen!"
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  • [21:39:06] <djlewis> cape-a-thons
  • [21:39:43] <djlewis> oh no, i cant get my brain off..... thong-cape
  • [21:40:02] <mdp> heh
  • [21:40:10] <mdp> friday?
  • [21:40:29] <djlewis> should I have saved that?
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  • [21:41:11] <djlewis> should have waited for the next ecs or something
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  • [21:42:53] <stahl> hello, my bonescript is not running after git pull (updating bonescript). do i have do install/update a specific version of node?
  • [21:43:38] <mdp> djlewis: maybe we can retract it from the interwebs to save it?
  • [21:43:51] <mdp> "djlewis would like to recall the last message"
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  • [21:49:46] <_av500_> ok, I deleted my copy here locally
  • [21:50:56] <mdp> ok, also deleted my local copy here
  • [21:51:07] <mdp> can everybody else please check in when you've deleted that
  • [21:51:13] <mdp> let's help djlewis get to friday
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  • [21:51:50] <_av500_> let me tweeta reminder
  • [21:51:50] <djlewis> :)
  • [21:52:33] <mdp> djlewis: ok, I can't erase the copy in my head now
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  • [21:52:56] <mdp> djlewis, I unfortunately am imagining a "people-of-walmart" style version of that cape :(
  • [21:52:59] <mdp> ugh
  • [21:53:22] <djlewis> o-my-god!! how could you bring that up,,,
  • [21:53:52] <mdp> it's therapy...bleach didn't get it out...nor head plants on the desk
  • [21:54:01] <djlewis> mdp: you have ruined it for me now :(
  • [21:54:52] * djlewis goes back to thinking up a more placid, mild mannered boring cape . . .
  • [21:55:16] <mdp> how about one where you just bring out a lot gpio on the headers for bitbanging?
  • [21:55:27] <mdp> "GPIO Cape"
  • [21:55:45] <ds2> no stun gun cape?
  • [21:55:46] * djlewis loves bit banging almost as much as head banging :)
  • [21:55:55] <ds2> inverter driven by PWM from the Bone!
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  • [22:08:22] <_av500_> mdp: a cape with all GPIOs on screw terminals
  • [22:09:11] <mdp> that's version A
  • [22:09:23] <mdp> version B will have the much cheaper spring terminals
  • [22:09:47] <djlewis> like on the 150 and 1 electronics project kit :)
  • [22:10:00] <mdp> djlewis: now you're recovered!
  • [22:10:08] <djlewis> lol
  • [22:10:18] <_av500_> mdp: in fact, I want a cape with a huge amphenol socket
  • [22:10:26] <_av500_> MIL std style
  • [22:10:31] <mdp> hehe
  • [22:10:39] <djlewis> mdp: has djlewis choking on chips
  • [22:10:40] <_av500_> so you can plug an F-16
  • [22:10:51] <_av500_> or an Osprey
  • [22:11:05] <djlewis> sounds very useful
  • [22:11:15] <_av500_> if you have a spare F-16, yes
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  • [22:11:33] <djlewis> just walk on base and help ur sef
  • [22:12:32] <djlewis> long ago I used to be able to drive through waving at the sentry on the airbase.
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  • [22:12:42] <djlewis> damn terrorists ruined that for me :(
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  • [22:13:47] <djlewis> nowadays a base sponser has to drive up to the gate, sign you in and chaparon ya.
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  • [22:14:31] <mdp> yeah, wright-patterson has locked-down like that
  • [22:15:07] <djlewis> now thats a base. we only have c-130 type plaines here.
  • [22:16:07] <mdp> great museum and nice camping there
  • [22:16:17] <_av500_> dont camp on the runway
  • [22:16:24] <_av500_> at least, leave a fire burning
  • [22:16:37] <mdp> ;)
  • [22:16:43] <djlewis> the BeagleBone cape matcher cape would solve my problems . . .
  • [22:16:50] <mdp> sound advice!
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  • [22:28:04] <_av500_> hmm, a cape that would route any input pin to any output pin
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  • [22:28:42] <_av500_> virtualwire(tm)
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  • [22:29:32] <_av500_> mdp: your c64 cape, does it have the c64 style expansion port?
  • [22:30:08] <mdp> too late, there's been an arduino library called [studlyCapsAlert] VirtualWire for some time.
  • [22:30:23] <mdp> _av500_, not a c64 cape...not that ambitious
  • [22:30:39] <mdp> just a really dump remoteproc with no i/o atm
  • [22:31:01] <mdp> s/dump/dumb/
  • [22:31:13] <_av500_> mdp: who is the remoteproc?
  • [22:31:16] <_av500_> the 6502?
  • [22:31:19] <_av500_> or the am335x?
  • [22:31:23] <mdp> the 6502, yes
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  • [22:31:56] <_av500_> hmm, a SID cape would be nice
  • [22:33:04] <mdp> an ambitious person would make an ov3640 sensor dongle to fit the quicklogic camera cape
  • [22:33:13] <mdp> and throw away the aptina sensor
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  • [22:33:34] <mdp> no, burn the aptina one
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  • [22:34:36] <unsolo> hi guys
  • [22:34:54] <mdp> bradfa, fixed some seating issues with my rs232 cape causing enet issues...have your patches on u-boot master booting 3.7-rc2 in my board farm now...USB-Free!
  • [22:35:22] <unsolo> hi guys, anyone here fiddled with the mmu in a boot loader / supervisor mode outside of linux ?
  • [22:36:05] <unsolo> on a omap35xx or dm37xx
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  • [22:46:13] <unsolo> mru: any good hints on where i can find some nice asm routines on how to map it write through 1:1 mapped ?
  • [22:46:28] <unsolo> from what i have read it has a huge impact on performance.
  • [22:46:35] <mru> u-boot?
  • [22:47:08] <mru> and yes, the mmu has to be enabled to use the d-cache
  • [22:47:31] <mru> otherwise the cpu doesn't know which addresses are cacheable
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  • [22:48:30] <unsolo> my zlib deflate routine took a few minutes to complete so i belive i have to do this to make it perform better..
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  • [22:51:54] <_av500_> mapping 1:1 is easy
  • [22:51:59] <_av500_> I did that in arm9 times
  • [22:52:05] <_av500_> and forgot all about it :)
  • [22:52:21] <unsolo> hehe
  • [22:52:29] <unsolo> yea i think i should be able to handle it
  • [22:52:43] <unsolo> it should be possible to enable mapping whilst executing from ram right
  • [22:52:48] <unsolo> and disable it as well
  • [22:52:51] <mru> yes
  • [22:53:14] * unsolo looks for the source in u-boot
  • [22:54:26] <mru> enabling/disabling a non-1:1 mapping has some caveats
  • [22:54:31] <mru> it's simplest to just not do that
  • [22:55:17] <unsolo> mru: i can see several reasons why that is more painful
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