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  • [03:24:47] <ds2> hmmmmm
  • [03:29:52] <ka6sox> yup
  • [03:30:40] <ds2> how's life on the coast?
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  • [03:55:47] <ka6sox> ds2, a bit cooler now....last week was horrid
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  • [06:00:09] <mranostay> ka6sox: where are you again?
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  • [06:00:33] <ka6sox> mranostay, get on 101 south to exit 100
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  • [06:06:05] <mranostay> ka6sox: ah SoCal?
  • [06:07:08] <ds2> what is horrid for the coast?
  • [06:08:07] <ka6sox> yup
  • [06:08:16] <ka6sox> mranostay, central coast
  • [06:08:27] <ka6sox> 85+ and 85% humidity
  • [06:08:36] <mranostay> ok that isn't that bad
  • [06:09:05] <mranostay> then again i've lived in crappy weather places my entire life
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  • [06:09:24] <mranostay> i don't miss seasons at all :)
  • [06:10:59] <ka6sox> seasons? what are those?....oh something about a bunch of birds and pigs..
  • [06:12:47] <mranostay> ka6sox: more like snow and heat
  • [06:13:11] <ka6sox> snow...oh, that white stuff @ the top of the ski lift! got it.
  • [06:13:49] <ka6sox> dang...the tower lights *just* kicked on in Kenai....
  • [06:14:00] <ka6sox> still quite a bit o'sun
  • [06:14:24] <ds2> blah.... that isn't bad
  • [06:14:44] <ds2> try 90+% humidity and 100F
  • [06:15:34] * ka6sox runs the other way....
  • [06:15:41] <ds2> aka midwest
  • [06:15:45] <ka6sox> funny thing is...I like tropical islands for vacations...
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  • [06:16:30] <ds2> hahah
  • [06:16:51] <mranostay> ds2: i have. that is one reason i left my last job :)
  • [06:17:30] <ka6sox-away> mranostay, somewhere in the deep south right?
  • [06:17:56] <mranostay> oh yeah
  • [06:18:02] <ds2> mranostay: did it get up to the 100's down there?
  • [06:18:04] <mranostay> Mobile AL....
  • [06:18:20] <ka6sox-away> Gators and Hurricanes
  • [06:18:22] <mranostay> ds2: 90F+ usually with 90+% humdity
  • [06:18:33] <ds2> oh, slower roast
  • [06:18:38] <mranostay> i didn't think it was possible to get that hot
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  • [06:19:01] <mranostay> had my A/C on 10 of 12 months :)...
  • [06:19:54] <ds2> at least you had AC
  • [06:19:56] <ka6sox-away> when I last saw you 2 I left for holiday...found a deserted island with NO phone, cell, internet, pager or even carrier pidgeon
  • [06:20:24] <ds2> ka6sox-away: so no way to call for help if the island errupts? :D
  • [06:20:34] <mranostay> sounds like paradise
  • [06:20:48] <ka6sox-away> more likely it would sink
  • [06:20:57] <ka6sox-away> (or a tsunami take it out)
  • [06:21:07] <mranostay> swim really fast :)
  • [06:21:13] <ka6sox-away> it was like 2m tall.
  • [06:21:22] <ka6sox-away> bbiaw...
  • [06:22:00] <mranostay> ds2: i don't think calling for help during a volcano is going to do much :)
  • [06:22:27] <mranostay> poison ash clouds travel at hundreds of miles an hour
  • [06:24:20] <ds2> the pompei guys had a few hours
  • [06:24:39] <mranostay> koen: did those rtc modules ever get added? no rush :)
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  • [06:24:58] <koen> yes, but it's not in the feeds yet
  • [06:31:27] <tasslehoff> koen: can you point me to an example of creating a new systemd target unit (in OE)?
  • [06:31:49] * tasslehoff is gonne use the day to fight, fight, fight with systemd
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  • [06:44:52] <koen> tasslehoff: no, but systemd has excellent docs and even git-like docs (blog posts)
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  • [06:56:51] <_av500_> tasslehoff: after you do, write a post for the mailing list
  • [06:59:41] <tasslehoff> _av500_: on humility, agression and eventually resignation?
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  • [07:13:06] <_av500_> yeah
  • [07:13:07] <_av500_> :)
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  • [07:59:06] <oteros2000> When my BeagleBone power off several times , the filesystem is corrupted... and doesn't work well
  • [08:00:14] <_av500_> you can always start from a cleAN IMAGE
  • [08:00:18] <_av500_> oops
  • [08:00:22] <_av500_> you can always start from a clean image
  • [08:00:33] <thurbad> do you use sync before powering off, or better yet, poweroff?
  • [08:01:48] <_av500_> I always sing when I power off
  • [08:02:57] <oteros2000> No I don't use sync before power off, what's is the fucntion of sync?
  • [08:03:12] <oteros2000> I start with a clean Image...
  • [08:03:52] <oteros2000> is there any method to recovery the original filesystem?
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  • [08:20:19] <_av500_> yes, use a fresh image
  • [08:20:27] <_av500_> it is the original fileystem
  • [08:22:30] <thurbad> sync writes all data to buffers... prevents file corruption somewhat
  • [08:22:44] <thurbad> err from buffers
  • [08:23:24] <_av500_> thurbad: from buffers to buffers :)
  • [08:23:58] <thurbad> from cache to disk basically
  • [08:25:04] <thurbad> is there any way to prevent tearing in 3d without dropping to 16 bpp?
  • [08:25:32] <thurbad> (specifically gles2 on the omap3530)
  • [08:25:45] <_av500_> double buffering
  • [08:25:57] <_av500_> triple if you want it butter
  • [08:26:35] <thurbad> is it lack of buffering that's causing the tears?
  • [08:27:19] <thurbad> that sounds too easy, but I'll look into it
  • [08:27:54] <thurbad> btw this is raw mode, not x11 mode that I'm using
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  • [08:32:23] <oteros2000> ok, this is a good method, is it possible use load a filesystem original with each booting process like the kernel, keeping your application /home and configuration?
  • [08:32:32] <_av500_> sure
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  • [08:32:44] <_av500_> make a read only rootfs
  • [08:32:57] <_av500_> and mount /home /var and so on from somewhere else
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  • [09:01:05] <_av500_> why should it?
  • [09:01:43] <_av500_> its still a memcpy racing the electron beam
  • [09:01:47] <thurbad> dunno, but I've seen a lot of posts/blogs/wiki entries that say it does
  • [09:02:05] <_av500_> sure, the copy to frame buffer memory is faster
  • [09:02:15] <_av500_> so the chance of hitting a screne refresh is smaller
  • [09:02:32] <_av500_> its still gambling
  • [09:04:13] <thurbad> maybe it does 'fix' it on smaller displays :P pushing a fair amount of pixels here
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  • [09:13:20] <_av500_> as I said, do proper double buffering
  • [09:13:27] <_av500_> that fixes it on all displays
  • [09:13:44] <thurbad> I plan to.. just looking through demosatthe moment
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  • [09:28:43] <mru> double-buffering also saves you a murderous memcpy
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  • [10:51:38] <Qbert_> I've got a remote beaglebone running Angstrom systemd that has started get stuck when rebooting.
  • [10:51:56] <Qbert_> It's miles away so I can't hook up the usb-serial cable to see what really happens.
  • [10:52:13] <Qbert_> It will boot fine after the power is cut and I've checked dmesg and systemctl withount any real hints on what's causing the problem.
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  • [10:53:12] <Qbert_> Anyone got any sugestions on what more to take a look at?
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  • [10:57:39] <Qbert_> Might be worth mentioning that it's running a read only root fs so no info from the previous session is available.
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  • [11:28:32] <tapper> hi all
  • [11:30:04] <tapper> I am confused at choosing btw beaglebone and raspberry pi? If u can get both rasp pi and Bone at at same price of 40$, which one will u buy?
  • [11:30:27] <tapper> We have a discount offer for Bone in our country.
  • [11:31:07] <_av500_> depends
  • [11:31:20] <_av500_> if you need HD video decode, the bone is not for you
  • [11:31:42] <tapper> i dont want HD video decode.
  • [11:31:46] <_av500_> if you want to learn embedded linux and/or connect stuff, the bone might be better
  • [11:31:57] <tapper> what abt the commuty support?
  • [11:33:01] <tapper> *community
  • [11:33:30] <_av500_> both have one
  • [11:33:46] <ogra_> beagle one is older and more established ...
  • [11:34:06] <ogra_> (older in all meanings of the word ... )
  • [11:35:36] * _av500_ is old
  • [11:35:43] * ogra_ too
  • [11:37:07] <tapper> I am interested in doing some stuff with OpenCV. Is tht possible?? does it give good result with bone that rasp pi??
  • [11:37:19] <tapper> *than
  • [11:40:35] <_av500_> yes
  • [11:40:40] <_av500_> since bone has the more powerfull CPU
  • [11:41:59] <tapper> @av500 why did you say bone is better for learning embedded linux? why not rasp pi?
  • [11:45:28] <tapper> guess i will go with bone then.
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  • [12:47:05] <_av500_> because I am opiniated
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  • [12:51:16] <LetoThe2nd> _av500_: you are opaited?
  • [12:51:30] <ogra_> and its only tuesday !
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  • [12:57:45] <mru> opiated?
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  • [13:18:17] <_av500_> yes
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  • [13:18:24] <_av500_> pain killers
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  • [13:20:46] <mru> plain killers
  • [13:24:41] <LetoThe2nd> spain killers?
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  • [13:30:57] <mru> stain killers?
  • [13:31:10] <mru> slain killers?
  • [13:35:04] <ogra_> vain pillars ?
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  • [13:40:00] <LetoThe2nd> snow smillas :)
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  • [14:05:42] <_av500_> go rillaz
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  • [14:09:05] <LetoThe2nd> nasi go reng
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  • [15:52:06] <joelagnel> koen, does musb OTG port work with the newer kernels you're building on beaglebone?
  • [15:54:20] <koen> yes
  • [15:54:28] <joelagnel> ok
  • [15:54:30] <koen> otherwise we wouldn't ship it
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  • [15:54:45] <koen> <insert standard musb disclaimer>
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  • [16:18:16] <heeen> hey, where can I find the sources for the kernel for ubuntu on the beagle
  • [16:18:45] <heeen> Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.23-psp18 armv7l)
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  • [16:18:57] <heeen> I want to build a realtek wifi driver
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  • [16:19:16] <heeen> and Iapparently I need a kernel build tree for that
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  • [19:21:56] <mranostay> quiet day
  • [19:22:11] <prpplague> or night
  • [19:22:16] <prpplague> depending on where you are at
  • [19:23:24] <prpplague> mranostay: most everyone is in some shape or form occupied with the conferences going on the san diego area currently
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  • [19:31:41] * wmat thought everyone was enroute to San Diego
  • [19:33:41] <mranostay> what is going on in SD?
  • [19:34:00] <mranostay> linuxcon?
  • [19:34:54] <wmat> some hacker skateboard thing I think
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  • [19:39:48] <prpplague> mranostay: linuxcon, linux plumbers, kernel summit, cloud summit, arm summit, gstreamer summit and half dozen other mini summits
  • [19:40:06] <mranostay> sounds fun
  • [19:41:58] <_av500_> wmat: +1
  • [19:42:09] <_av500_> is there a summit summit
  • [19:42:18] <_av500_> and a summit about that?
  • [19:42:31] <mranostay> any trolling summits?
  • [19:42:35] <_av500_> yes
  • [19:42:40] <_av500_> VDD next weekend
  • [19:42:42] <Russ> ya, lennart will be there
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  • [19:44:12] <heeen> what is a webcam with a well supported driver under arm/beaglebone/ubuntu
  • [19:44:20] <mranostay> _av500_: VDD?
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  • [19:52:46] <_av500_> mranostay: Videolan dev days
  • [19:52:53] <_av500_> aka veneral disease days
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  • [19:54:14] <mranostay> that would assume sex happes at these nerd cons
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  • [19:54:19] <mranostay> *happens
  • [19:54:25] <_av500_> unpossible
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  • [20:02:33] <thurbad> heeen probably most anything in the uvs category that's not high def should work
  • [20:03:29] <thurbad> err uvc
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  • [20:04:57] <mranostay> _av500_: so you guys wear cone hats for that conference?
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  • [20:05:16] <mranostay> can't be worst than RHAT :)
  • [20:05:36] <mranostay> *RHT
  • [20:08:09] <prpplague> _av500_: you have reached your 15 minutes of fame
  • [20:08:26] <prpplague> _av500_: my son has stated that you are even more cool that koen
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  • [20:14:40] <thurbad> lol
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  • [20:17:18] <mranostay> prpplague: er you let your kid meet people like us?
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  • [20:17:49] <thurbad> prpplague: is people like us :P
  • [20:18:23] <thurbad> maybe not like _av500_ .... ~.~
  • [20:19:53] <prpplague> mranostay: my children are total nerds, i have completely ruined them socially in that aspect.....
  • [20:21:16] <prpplague> mranostay: https://plus.google.com/101339419642360856354/posts/6iBdk7GaKR2
  • [20:23:09] <thurbad> lol
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  • [20:28:15] <mranostay> prpplague: well do you have to raise the future generation of trolls
  • [20:29:04] <prpplague> mranostay: that was not my intention, but they seem to be channeling the spirit of mru
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  • [20:42:01] <_av500_> said it and dropped?
  • [20:42:23] <_av500_> ah, hes on a plane
  • [20:42:26] <_av500_> he's
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  • [21:34:29] <_av500_> gn
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  • [23:08:41] <djlewis> later . . .
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