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  • [00:24:59] <aholler> mru: if you want to get an idea about how many packages might be needed for a simple programm which uses xorg, you might have a look at http://pleaseinstall.de/deptreexorg.png ;)
  • [00:33:31] <Sh0rtWave> Hrm, so
  • [00:33:51] <Sh0rtWave> I'm messing about with the rootfs and what-not from bob galemin's blog while I'm building buildroot for n-th time
  • [00:34:08] <Sh0rtWave> trying to use Gstreamer to get a capture off of the mt9p031 board (yavta works)
  • [00:34:18] <Sh0rtWave> I get "inappropriate ioctl for device"
  • [00:34:23] <Sh0rtWave> What causes that?
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  • [00:46:54] <HeadAche> Hey I just bought one of these things, I want to use video4linux2 to capture from the camera port using the leopard MT9P031 but have no video nodes
  • [00:47:35] <HeadAche> Where can I get the kernel source and filesystem or a sd card image for the kernel that has support for this sensor?
  • [00:47:46] <Sh0rtWave> Yeah
  • [00:47:50] <Sh0rtWave> your nick is accurate
  • [00:47:53] <Sh0rtWave> it's that much of a headache
  • [00:48:00] <Sh0rtWave> I'm struggling with the same problem
  • [00:48:58] <Sh0rtWave> Hold on a second and I'll give you a hand
  • [00:49:04] <HeadAche> cool
  • [00:49:15] <Sh0rtWave> Right so
  • [00:49:16] <Sh0rtWave> http://blog.galemin.com/2012/03/buildroot-2012-02-for-beagleboard-xm-with-li-5m03-mt9p031-camera-support/
  • [00:49:18] <Sh0rtWave> Go there
  • [00:49:26] <Sh0rtWave> There's some pre-compiled images there.
  • [00:49:39] <Sh0rtWave> I would suggest you get a new SD card and keep the SD card that came with your board as an emergency backup
  • [00:49:51] <Sh0rtWave> Get the rootfs_full.tar.gz
  • [00:49:53] <Sh0rtWave> Nab that
  • [00:50:05] <Sh0rtWave> you need all the rest of that stuff too, for your SD card.
  • [00:50:17] <Sh0rtWave> Deal with that first, get your board booting
  • [00:50:28] <Sh0rtWave> Note that that particular build has a bug in the serial setup
  • [00:50:57] <Sh0rtWave> so when you're booting it off of that build, your best bet is to monitor it through serial, and see what IP address lease it gets, then ssh to that IP address
  • [00:51:18] <Sh0rtWave> Once you get there, come back and I'll give you a hand from there. All i can tell you is what I know, but this should save you a few days of beating yourself in the head.
  • [00:52:59] <HeadAche> Cool that was exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot, I'll come back later after I take a look at this stuff
  • [00:53:08] <HeadAche> Thanks!
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  • [04:49:45] <kevinchen> Hey there. Is anyone able to help me with some first-boot problems on beagleboard rev. v3?
  • [04:50:04] <kevinchen> I'm using this guide: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/HowToGetAngstromRunning
  • [04:50:57] <kevinchen> The suggested baud rate for connecting via serial is 115200, but when I connect using the screen utility, it just moves the cursor around and prints beep characters (though it does this deterministically).
  • [04:51:26] <kevinchen> Also, it doesn't play the 2sec audio tone when it's booted (I assume this happens in U-Boot)
  • [04:51:57] <kevinchen> Currently, I have only power, serial, and audio out plugged in. So no SD card.
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  • [04:55:14] <kevinchen> (So I've also searched google, stackexchange, etc.
  • [04:58:21] <kevinchen> So I guess I will ask again later, since nobody is crazy enough to be online right now. Thanks & good night!
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  • [07:04:47] <heeen> does someone have the md5sum of Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.05-beaglebone-2012.06.18.img
  • [07:05:47] <heeen> hmm seems to be correct
  • [07:05:53] <heeen> I keep getting corrupt filesystem errors
  • [07:06:51] <heeen> http://pastebin.com/ktjRfS3C
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  • [08:57:32] <Lord_Havoc_> Hey! Wanna learn how to hack from people who actually "know" how to manipulate computers/networks?! Well you can right now by just joining our chat and asking questions. We're all patient and help people who dont understand. Join chat.us.freenode.net (6665) chan #hl2 See ya online!
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  • [10:20:48] <k4rtik> has any body tried creating a android open accessory dev kit using beaglebone?
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  • [10:31:01] <niro> Hey, how could I check if the graphics processor is being used on the xm?
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  • [10:38:19] <aholler> less /var/log/XFree0.log
  • [10:38:44] <aholler> s/XFree0.log/Xorg.0.log/
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  • [11:29:06] <guyzmo> heyall
  • [11:30:09] <guyzmo> I'm getting crazy, bitbake -c menuconfig virtual/kernel has the correct configuration for my needs
  • [11:30:56] <guyzmo> and bitbake virtual/kernel does not create the uImage (neither in git/arch/arm/uImage in kernel sources)
  • [11:31:18] <guyzmo> (I mean it does create in git/arch/arm/uImage in kernel sources, but not with *my* configuration)
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  • [13:01:10] <damjan> aum__: tp-link 722
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  • [15:16:50] <Sh0rtWave> Aight
  • [15:17:06] <Sh0rtWave> I got almost everything to build
  • [15:17:12] <Sh0rtWave> with the exception of media-ctl
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  • [15:18:16] <Sh0rtWave> media-ctl fails on building because the kernel headers are missing. Looking at the config file, and reading Bob Galemin's blog, leads you to believe that you need the kernel-headers package on whatever distro you're building, HOWEVER, the configure script is actually called with --with-kernel-headers set to a path in the build directory (which makes a degree of sense, really)
  • [15:18:48] <Sh0rtWave> The problem seems to be that the kernel package in question is lacking the media.h file, so something is bonked with the path. Anyone else have this problem?
  • [15:20:09] <Sh0rtWave> find $path_to_the_sysroot_folder -name media.h returns no result, so I'm curious if buildroot downloaded the wrong kernel.
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  • [15:34:22] <Sh0rtWave> Hrm
  • [15:34:28] <Sh0rtWave> The deeper I poke into this, the more I find wrong with it.
  • [15:34:36] <Sh0rtWave> No wonder so many people have issues with it.
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  • [15:38:56] <Sh0rtWave> Something else too, it boots up mighty fast if you set the default runlevel to like 3
  • [15:39:05] <Sh0rtWave> X is stupid sluggish to startup
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  • [16:04:55] <Sh0rtWave> Finally, success
  • [16:04:59] <Sh0rtWave> now I can start actually developing
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  • [19:30:03] <jdcravens> trying to talk to a Beaglebone with Mac OSX 10.6. Ive followed Branden's post, updated the Info.plist file, set permissions to 644, but when I screen /dev/tty.usbserial-*B 115200 - I get a !p response
  • [19:30:34] <jdcravens> sorry Branden's post: http://waxpraxis.tumblr.com/post/16772215153/talking-to-the-beaglebone-with-osx-10-7-lion
  • [19:30:45] <jdcravens> any have experience here?
  • [19:31:08] <Sh0rtWave> You get what sort of response?
  • [19:31:12] <Sh0rtWave> a !p?
  • [19:31:12] <jdcravens> !p
  • [19:31:22] <jdcravens> yea cant find any documentation
  • [19:31:34] <jdcravens> blank screen with a !p
  • [19:31:35] <mru> np?
  • [19:31:42] <Sh0rtWave> what do you see when you do an ls /dev/tty.usbserial*?
  • [19:32:12] <jdcravens> I see both tty.usbserial-*A and tty.usbserial-*B
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  • [19:34:11] <Sh0rtWave> those are the exact names?
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  • [19:34:50] <jdcravens> sorry - I see /dev/tty.usbserial-TIVE2OAVA /dev/tty.usbserial-TIVE2OAVB
  • [19:34:55] <thurbad_> I'd use tab substitution rather than * in the commenad
  • [19:35:09] <Sh0rtWave> thurbad_: Idea was to enumerate all devices
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  • [19:35:23] <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: right, so
  • [19:36:01] <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: I presume you're aware, then, that your command needs to be screen /dev/tty.usbserial-TIVE2OAVB 115200
  • [19:36:12] <thurbad_> but he's using * in the screen command line
  • [19:36:20] <Sh0rtWave> thurbad_: see above :D
  • [19:36:23] <mru> that should work
  • [19:36:34] <mru> that pattern matches only one name
  • [19:36:39] <jdcravens> i still get the !p
  • [19:36:50] <jdcravens> with screen /dev/tty.usbserial-TIVE2OAVB 115200
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  • [19:37:17] <Sh0rtWave> hrm
  • [19:37:28] <Sh0rtWave> just that once, or on every key input?
  • [19:37:50] <Sh0rtWave> Did you try the AVA port?
  • [19:38:00] <jdcravens> no
  • [19:38:20] <Sh0rtWave> Curious to know what device order that driver wrangling creates
  • [19:38:21] <jdcravens> not familiar with the AVA port
  • [19:38:29] <jdcravens> looking now
  • [19:38:37] <Sh0rtWave> See above re: TIVE2OAVB vs. TIVE2OAVA
  • [19:39:10] <Sh0rtWave> alternatively, unplug your beaglebone, then run dmesg, then plug it back in, run dmesg again, see what changed
  • [19:39:36] <jdcravens> oh yes
  • [19:39:38] <jdcravens> I did
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  • [19:40:14] <Sh0rtWave> mru: since you're here...I has a question or two.
  • [19:40:20] <Sh0rtWave> mru: Know much about buildroot?
  • [19:40:27] <Sh0rtWave> with beagleboard xM?
  • [19:40:39] <mru> enough to stay away from it
  • [19:40:54] <Sh0rtWave> Mmm, see
  • [19:40:56] <woglinde_> .o(why he wants buildroot?)
  • [19:41:03] <Sh0rtWave> there's that thing I was talking about last night.
  • [19:41:09] <mru> maybe he's been talking to av500 again
  • [19:41:14] <Sh0rtWave> What buildsystem then SHOULD I be using?
  • [19:41:24] <mru> depends on what you need
  • [19:41:24] <thurbad_> make?
  • [19:41:24] <Sh0rtWave> I need to make an mt9p031 camera work.
  • [19:41:29] <woglinde_> that what ti preferes
  • [19:41:51] <woglinde_> so I guess you need kernelheaders
  • [19:41:56] <Sh0rtWave> And then I need some kind of either openCV or gst-ish solution
  • [19:41:57] <woglinde_> and yes make
  • [19:42:30] <woglinde_> Sh0rtWave uhm please come back when you know more about buildsystem, scm and linux kernel modules
  • [19:42:44] <Sh0rtWave> woglinde_: I know quite a lot about linux kernel modules, thanks.
  • [19:42:54] <Sh0rtWave> woglinde_: Why would you suggest something in such a dismissive manner?
  • [19:42:55] <woglinde_> o.O
  • [19:43:11] <woglinde_> when you know about it why you asked such strange question
  • [19:43:29] <thurbad_> someone's got to troll when av500 is not doing his job :P
  • [19:43:31] <Sh0rtWave> woglinde_: My question is buildroot vs. openembedded vs. angstrom
  • [19:43:45] <Sh0rtWave> woglinde_: NOT how to use make, I'm very well aquainted with make
  • [19:43:52] <mru> that's comparing apples and oranges
  • [19:43:56] <Sh0rtWave> I've been using linux for 20+ years at this point
  • [19:44:01] <Sh0rtWave> mru: so it would seem.
  • [19:44:11] <mru> I strongly doubt that
  • [19:44:22] <mru> linux has only existed for 20 years
  • [19:44:24] <Sh0rtWave> mru: I could probably build a very bare system with just a linux kernel and the most minimal rootfs
  • [19:44:28] <thurbad_> heh
  • [19:44:37] <woglinde_> *g*
  • [19:44:47] <woglinde_> than do it that way
  • [19:44:52] <woglinde_> if you know the way
  • [19:45:01] <Sh0rtWave> mru: problem is
  • [19:45:33] <Sh0rtWave> mru: I need a lot of other support for things like gst and what-not and buildroot seems to do an ok job of collecting all that
  • [19:45:44] <Sh0rtWave> I'm curious why people don't like it
  • [19:45:50] <mru> problem is you just boasted just a little too much about your vast experience
  • [19:46:07] <mru> now nobody will take you seriously any more (if they did before)
  • [19:46:12] <Sh0rtWave> what, 20+ years?
  • [19:46:17] <Sh0rtWave> It's near-enough
  • [19:46:23] <thurbad_> maybe he meant unix
  • [19:46:25] <Sh0rtWave> I don't remember when I started with it exactly
  • [19:46:35] <Sh0rtWave> I got my first copy of it off of a BBS
  • [19:46:36] <jdcravens> the only difference I see is 2 more logs for FTDIUSBSerialDriver: 0 4036010 start - ok
  • [19:46:39] <mru> *Linus* started ~20 years ago
  • [19:46:44] <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: sweetness
  • [19:47:00] <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: So those would be your connects...does it mention the device that got connected?
  • [19:47:03] <mru> besides, number of years experience has no relevance
  • [19:47:31] <mru> if you don't know how to do what you're trying to accomplish *now*, it doesn't really matter what you've done before
  • [19:47:34] <Sh0rtWave> mru: that is true, but I have been building LFS systems for some time...mostly PC, only a few embedded systems. buildroot is something of a new experience.
  • [19:47:56] <Sh0rtWave> mru: The point is that I'm not a neophyte when it comes to kernel headers and what-not.
  • [19:48:04] <mru> if you really had 20 years of _relevant_ experience, you would not be asking these questions
  • [19:48:25] <mru> hmm, you know kernel modules well but are new to headers?
  • [19:48:26] <mru> wtf?
  • [19:48:31] <Sh0rtWave> I know how to build a kernel, the issue is the "magic sauce" of the config stuff. I tried Bob Galemin's setup but it seems to be lacking in certain ways, so I'm working my way to a working config there.
  • [19:48:37] <thurbad_> his experience really isn't the point, is it?
  • [19:48:37] <Sh0rtWave> mru: Errr
  • [19:48:48] <Sh0rtWave> mru: When did I say I was new to headers?
  • [19:48:55] <mru> thurbad_: he was the one who brought it up
  • [19:49:00] <Sh0rtWave> mru: I said I was new to *buildroot*.
  • [19:49:15] <mru> sorry, I missed a "not"
  • [19:49:45] <jdcravens> USBF: 1.318 [0x73b7600] The IOUSBFamily is having trouble enumerating a USB device that has been plugged in. It will keep retrying.
  • [19:49:49] <woglinde_> *g*
  • [19:49:53] <Sh0rtWave> Anyway
  • [19:50:01] <jdcravens> USBF: 10.216 [0x73b7600] The IOUSBFamily was not able to enumerate a device.
  • [19:50:08] <Sh0rtWave> mru: why do you hate buildroot?
  • [19:50:15] <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: Now that's an interesting message.
  • [19:50:18] <mru> I didn't say I hate it
  • [19:50:31] <Sh0rtWave> mru: fair enough. Why do you choose to avoid it?
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  • [19:50:45] <mru> there are things that work better for me
  • [19:51:21] <woglinde> .o(i know the next question)
  • [19:51:55] <thurbad_> what is your favorite color?
  • [19:52:05] <thurbad_> see.. bet you didn't expect THAT?
  • [19:52:08] <jdcravens> Sh0rtWave: any suggestions as to what to look for next?
  • [19:52:16] <mru> nobody expects the spanish inquisition
  • [19:52:29] <Sh0rtWave> jdcravens: I'd try rebooting the machine at that point.
  • [19:52:36] <Sh0rtWave> mru: hah, fair enough.
  • [19:53:08] <Sh0rtWave> mru: I won't trouble you with an open-embedded question then :D
  • [19:53:13] <Sh0rtWave> think I probably know the answer to that one.
  • [19:53:27] <mru> there are better people to ask about OE
  • [19:53:50] <Sh0rtWave> mayhap
  • [19:54:07] <thurbad_> I use the angstrom build scripts repo has served me well
  • [19:54:21] <Sh0rtWave> I found a few issues in buildroot's stuff thus far
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  • [19:56:12] <Sh0rtWave> getting udev working is a right pain
  • [19:56:13] <woglinde> hi ka6sox
  • [19:56:22] <woglinde> o.O
  • [19:58:25] <Sh0rtWave> The thing I'm hating most about buildroot is it seems to be optimized for that codesourcery toolchain
  • [19:58:30] <Sh0rtWave> I'm using the angstrom one.
  • [19:58:33] <Sh0rtWave> makes for headaches
  • [19:59:03] <ka6sox> hi woglinde
  • [19:59:05] <mru> optimised how?
  • [19:59:10] <mru> it's just gcc
  • [20:00:27] <Sh0rtWave> I think there are things in the toolchain config, that when you choose a different toolchain, has subtle effects that have to be adjusted for
  • [20:01:17] <mru> like what?
  • [20:01:27] <woglinde> .o(popcorn)
  • [20:01:50] <Sh0rtWave> most of what I've found is little things like paths to things
  • [20:02:31] <Sh0rtWave> like when building media-ctl, for instance, wants media.h
  • [20:02:36] <Sh0rtWave> it's looking for it in the wrong place
  • [20:03:08] <Sh0rtWave> most things seem to build ok
  • [20:03:26] <Sh0rtWave> woglinde: is that sufficiently amusing, or am I disappointing you?
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  • [20:05:35] <mru> and that relates to codesourcery how?
  • [20:06:03] <Sh0rtWave> noy codesourcery
  • [20:06:08] <Sh0rtWave> not that is
  • [20:06:27] <Sh0rtWave> buildroot
  • [20:07:12] <Sh0rtWave> I didn't say it was hard to fix. It's just irritating
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  • [21:57:31] <mranostay> hi mru :)
  • [21:57:42] <mranostay> shouldn't you be drinking now? :)
  • [21:57:43] <woglinde> hi mranostay
  • [21:57:57] <mru> mranostay: who says I'm not?
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  • [21:58:13] <mranostay> ok good point
  • [21:58:18] <mru> -o
  • [21:59:21] <buggle> Hi, has anyone here been successful in cross compiling using codesourcery in eclipse on a windows machine?
  • [22:00:09] <woglinde> buggle why?
  • [22:00:36] <mranostay> i rather slam my fingers in the door than use CS + Eclipse :)
  • [22:00:41] <mranostay> and Windows
  • [22:00:53] * mru slams a window on mranostay's fingers
  • [22:00:58] <woglinde> mranostay hm gcc via eclipse is okay
  • [22:01:00] <buggle> im asking because im unsuccessful using all these recipes on the net...I need to hear that someone succeeded...this has been stealing all my hours today :)
  • [22:01:07] <mru> gcc without eclipse is at least as ok
  • [22:01:12] <woglinde> either autotools or cmake works good enough
  • [22:01:32] <mru> autotools is usually easier to debug when it (inevitably) goes wrong
  • [22:01:53] <woglinde> mru I meant the eclipse support for them
  • [22:02:28] <mru> eclipse is easy to debug, you simply delete it and carry on the sane way
  • [22:02:37] <woglinde> *g*
  • [22:02:52] <woglinde> yeah I am to dumb for vim and cscope
  • [22:03:21] <mru> grep ftw
  • [22:03:49] * mranostay doesn't use IDEs at all
  • [22:03:55] <mru> good man
  • [22:04:12] <mru> my faith in humanity is restored
  • [22:04:44] <mru> mranostay: you're carrying a huge responsibility there, don't disappoint me
  • [22:04:58] <mru> or there'll be no beer
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  • [22:08:16] <mranostay> too early. need coffee actually
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  • [22:23:09] <brillopad> Hi guys
  • [22:23:33] <brillopad> Bought a small LCD display for use with my BeagleBone. I've followed the instructions here but nothing is displaying: http://www.nunoalves.com/open_source/?p=152
  • [22:23:44] <brillopad> Is there a way of testing the LCD to make sure that I haven't bought a dud?
  • [22:32:26] <mranostay> *blech* they upped the price of coffee here 25%
  • [22:32:52] <mranostay> mru: should have gotten a beer.
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  • [23:52:06] <niro_> brillopad, is the backlight on
  • [23:52:07] <niro_> ?
  • [23:52:15] <brillopad> Hi niro_
  • [23:52:25] <brillopad> Doesn't have one
  • [23:52:37] <brillopad> Same number of pins as the backlit one though, just don't use the last two
  • [23:54:08] <niro_> Have you attached a potentiometer?
  • [23:54:17] <brillopad> That's where I may be going wrong
  • [23:54:28] <brillopad> Don't have one - just thought I could either leave it blank or kick 3.3v in there
  • [23:54:34] <brillopad> Am I completely and utterly wrong by any chance?
  • [23:55:20] <niro_> Well, if it's 0, or 3.3 it'll either be completely blank, or fully black.
  • [23:55:29] <brillopad> Hmmm
  • [23:55:39] <brillopad> Wish it had been fully black, it's done nothing at all!
  • [23:56:03] <brillopad> Wired it all up exactly as it said (apart from the potentiometer) and was expecting something to happen, but nothing
  • [23:56:17] <brillopad> 5V in on PIN 2
  • [23:56:40] <niro_> actually, the input is 5v for the contrast...
  • [23:57:06] <brillopad> Hmmmm
  • [23:57:34] <brillopad> So try putting 5v through pin 3?
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  • [23:58:21] <niro_> yes
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