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  • [02:51:09] <m172> I can't get my beaglebone to connect to the internet via an ethernet to my computer
  • [02:51:34] <m172> I have Angstrom on the beaglebone and ubuntu on the computer
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  • [03:13:34] <xxiao> ./oebb bitbake virtual/kernel -c compile -f or whatever it will still give me the same kernel modules
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  • [05:17:53] <emeb_mac> gm
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  • [06:50:56] <_tasslehoff_> koen: is this using the "1.7 based DDK" https://lists.yoctoproject.org/pipermail/meta-ti/2012-May/001024.html? I'm hoping that's what the IMGPV in libgles-omap3_4.06.00.01.bb means :)
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  • [07:23:06] <koen> _tasslehoff_: it is
  • [07:23:33] <koen> _tasslehoff_: I was very happy that denix did all the work on that :)
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  • [07:29:58] <_tasslehoff_> :)
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  • [08:22:14] <mak1> hi, i have a devkit8000 (said to be a clone of BB). I am trying to run dvsdk filesystem on it. what kernel shall i need?
  • [08:22:18] <mak1> hi, i have a devkit8000 (said to be a clone of BB). I am trying to run dvsdk filesystem on it. what kernel shall i need?
  • [08:22:35] <av500> dvsdk?
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  • [08:22:43] <av500> and devkit8000 is not a clone
  • [08:22:55] <av500> it is similar, but not an exact copy
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  • [08:25:26] <leo_> Hello All. Just trying to install a gui on 12.04. It seems xubuntu-gdm-theme doesn't exist for 12.04 (package not founf error). Any other options?
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  • [08:27:21] <mak1> I am trying to run Root File System from DVSDK (dvsdk_omap3530-evm_4_01_00_09) for OMAP3530 on Devkit8000.
  • [08:27:21] <mak1> I found that DVSDK (dvsdk_omap3530-evm_4_01_00_09) for OMAP3530 uses linux kernel 2.6.32. I am unable to find a linux kernel patch for devkit8000.
  • [08:27:22] <mak1> Where can I find a linux kernel patch for 2.6.32 supportin
  • [08:27:37] <mak1> devkit8000?
  • [08:27:43] <av500> I dont know
  • [08:27:49] <mak1> I am trying to run Root File System from DVSDK (dvsdk_omap3530-evm_4_01_00_09) for OMAP3530 on Devkit8000.
  • [08:27:49] <mak1> I found that DVSDK (dvsdk_omap3530-evm_4_01_00_09) for OMAP3530 uses linux kernel 2.6.32. I am unable to find a linux kernel patch for devkit8000.
  • [08:27:49] <mak1> Where can I find a linux kernel patch for 2.6.32 supporting devkit8000?
  • [08:27:52] <av500> why dont you ask the people that sell the devkit80000000?
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  • [08:28:19] <av500> also, this is not the place to get support for DVSDK
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  • [08:33:57] <mak1> DVSDK = Digital Video Software Development Kit
  • [08:34:08] <mak1> theres no channel on devkit8000 or dvsdk
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  • [08:34:48] <av500> mak1: correct
  • [08:34:50] <mak1> may be someone from BB might have used it
  • [08:35:07] <av500> mak1: from experience, not many
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  • [11:37:15] <isbric> where is the more in depth hw spec for beaglebone? cant find it :/
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  • [11:38:16] <av500> http://beagleboard.org/hardware/design
  • [11:39:15] <isbric> is there a obius link to that url somwhere? cuz i culdnt find it :(
  • [11:40:21] <av500> yes
  • [11:40:24] <av500> http://beagleboard.org
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  • [11:44:25] <isbric> oh..
  • [11:44:47] <av500> I know, a most obscure link....
  • [11:44:57] <isbric> xD
  • [11:45:16] <isbric> what the heck is PMIC TPS65217?
  • [11:45:39] <av500> its a PMIC
  • [11:45:40] <isbric> 4.0 in the system reference
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  • [11:46:08] <av500> another obscure link: https://www.google.com/search?q=TPS65217
  • [11:46:47] <isbric> yeah i know, i realy need to ask more clarly :P
  • [11:47:44] <isbric> why is there a PMIC on the board? as i can tell i need externals to achive the use of such stuff right?
  • [11:48:13] <mru> the pmic is there because the omap requires it
  • [11:48:54] <isbric> mru: in what sens does the omap need it?
  • [11:48:58] <av500> it needs power
  • [11:49:09] <av500> electrical preferably
  • [11:49:13] <isbric> nooo, i was told it rund on pure willpower!
  • [11:49:23] <isbric> runs*
  • [11:49:27] <av500> it has internal willpower generator
  • [11:49:37] <ynezz> low noise
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  • [11:49:50] * av500 uses a cattle prod to achieve the same
  • [11:50:07] <av500> or a tazer....
  • [11:50:10] <mru> a cattle prod is the antidote for willpower
  • [11:50:57] <isbric> :)
  • [11:51:00] <av500> isbric: to be honest, the PMIC is there because it's a TI chip and TI likes to sell chips
  • [11:51:14] <av500> look carefully, its not connected at all
  • [11:51:39] <mru> just like that extra crystal
  • [11:51:59] <isbric> a soulcrystal on the bone?
  • [11:52:18] <isbric> man i got lucky to fetch me one of these :P
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  • [11:53:05] <isbric> but honestly, the datasheet is a little bit confusing (probobly got confusing in the process of making it noob friendly imao)
  • [11:53:19] <av500> data sheet?
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  • [11:53:40] <isbric> under TPS65217 is says "LiION Single cell battery charger (via expansion*) "
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  • [11:53:46] <isbric> "system reference"
  • [11:54:20] <av500> yes, and?
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  • [11:54:28] <isbric> why even mention that if the TPS65217 isnt ment for anything more then regulationg the onboard power.
  • [11:54:57] <av500> who said that?
  • [11:55:16] <isbric> TPS65217 - Plasma antigravaton generator (via expansion*)
  • [11:55:27] <av500> and the TPS65217 has a battery charger inside
  • [11:56:12] <av500> if it confuses you, don't use it
  • [11:56:12] <isbric> am i readning the eaglefiles wrong then cus to me it looks like i wount be able to use it on the current design of Rev A5?
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  • [11:57:20] <isbric> ah screw it.
  • [11:57:52] <jkridner__> howdy mranostay
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  • [12:08:42] <bradfa> isbric, what exactly do you want to do with the TPS65217?
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  • [12:13:10] <av500> bradfa: screw it
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  • [12:13:19] <bradfa> av500, roger!
  • [12:13:27] <mru> av500: clockwise or anti-clockwise?
  • [12:13:34] <av500> not _roger_
  • [12:13:48] <mru> av500: not screw _roger_?
  • [12:14:15] <av500> is it not counterclockwise?
  • [12:14:58] <mru> http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/anticlockwise
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  • [12:41:26] <jsabeaudry> xxiao, try bitbake -f -c clean virtual/kernel; bitbake -f -c menuconfig virtual/kernel; bitbake -f -c compile virtual/kernel; bitbake -f -c deploy virtual/kernel
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  • [12:49:28] <jsabeaudry> How can I access the cpu temperature on beaglebone is it the same as on a desktop machine?
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  • [12:54:39] <koen> there's no sensor
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  • [12:55:11] <koen> if there is, there's no driver :)
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  • [13:01:23] <bradfa> jsabeaudry, dunno but maybe check am335x tech ref section 9.3.1.10, bits 8 to 15 are an ADC temperature but don't see any other reference to it
  • [13:01:48] <bradfa> maybe you can read the register directly?
  • [13:03:28] <bradfa> Many MSP430 have internal temp sensor on the ADC, maybe similar?
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  • [13:08:31] <mru> koen: what happened to the omap3430 temp sensor driver?
  • [13:09:05] * av500 senses a great disturance in the temperature
  • [13:09:06] <jsabeaudry> bradfa, ah great, I just hope the issue I'm having is a termperature issue
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  • [13:09:52] <bradfa> jsabeaudry, I couldn't find any table saying what the ADC values correspond to, but I didn't look very hard
  • [13:10:11] <bradfa> jsabeaudry, can you reproduce your issue on more than one bone?
  • [13:10:35] <jsabeaudry> bradfa, yup reproduced on 3 rev A3 bones so far
  • [13:10:38] <koen> mru: is was broken in early 34xx, 36xx tends to deny it's there
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  • [13:11:09] <jsabeaudry> bradfa, 3 out of 3 so every bone that I tested has the issue
  • [13:11:22] <bradfa> oh, wow
  • [13:11:38] <mru> koen: well, I got sane-looking numbers from it...
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  • [13:13:19] <koen> mru: the non working parts (es 2.x and earlier iirc) will give temperatures in the 80 degrees C range
  • [13:13:27] <bradfa> jsabeaudry, can you share your kernel config?
  • [13:13:29] <koen> the working parts give sane numbers
  • [13:13:35] <bradfa> koen, 80 C is nice weather, no? :)
  • [13:13:42] * bradfa from backwards USA
  • [13:13:45] <mru> bradfa: in a sauna, sure
  • [13:13:55] <bradfa> mru, hellofa sauna!
  • [13:14:08] <mru> koen: I guess I tried it on a working part then
  • [13:14:21] <mru> bradfa: 80C is rather cool for a sauna
  • [13:14:34] * bradfa doesn't visit sauna often
  • [13:14:40] * mru neither
  • [13:15:01] <koen> jsabeaudry: after reading the datasheet, there must be a sensors, since it implements smart reflex class 2B
  • [13:15:17] <koen> "voltage scaling based on die temperature"
  • [13:15:23] <mru> so scan the address space
  • [13:16:27] * koen downloads spruh73d
  • [13:16:53] <jsabeaudry> bradfa, http://pastebin.ca/2143429
  • [13:17:26] <jsabeaudry> right now I have preempt enable but the issue is also reproducible on non-preempt
  • [13:17:54] <bradfa> who's kernel tree?
  • [13:18:43] <bradfa> weird thing happens with pastebin.ca, Firefox can't get to it but wget can... odd
  • [13:18:51] <jsabeaudry> koen's r10d
  • [13:18:53] <koen> jsabeaudry: the layout of that sensor looks a lot like omap3, try porting that driver
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  • [13:21:59] <bradfa> jsabeaudry, um, I can't build that config on koen's r10d tree...
  • [13:22:22] <jsabeaudry> bradfa, gives you an error?
  • [13:22:24] * bradfa tries again
  • [13:22:29] <bradfa> yes, lots
  • [13:22:56] <bradfa> ah, thumb2...
  • [13:23:00] <jsabeaudry> huh, cant you post diff with config that works?
  • [13:23:07] <jsabeaudry> can*
  • [13:23:12] <bradfa> one sec
  • [13:23:42] <koen> bradfa: don't use a broken toolchain :)
  • [13:23:50] <bradfa> koen, :P
  • [13:24:09] <bradfa> jsabeaudry, non PREEMPT kernel on koen's r10d tree I boot: https://raw.github.com/gist/2580060/be5bce61504cfae372425cabb4e76780a5a12d8a/.config
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  • [13:24:44] <bradfa> koen, I know you love thumb mode, but I've never been fond of it, I've always had issues building things
  • [13:25:00] <koen> I don't like thumb
  • [13:25:04] <koen> I do like thumb2
  • [13:25:11] <bradfa> k, yeah, that
  • [13:25:36] * av500 likes 2 thumbs
  • [13:25:37] <koen> you're using the village idiot of compiler versions, so you don't get to complain :)
  • [13:25:49] <bradfa> koen, Can I be the leader of my village?
  • [13:25:50] <koen> gcc 4.4 only serves one purpose: make gcc 4.5 look awesome
  • [13:25:50] <bradfa> :)
  • [13:25:56] <bradfa> I do like GCC 4.5
  • [13:26:18] <av500> compilers are overrated
  • [13:26:27] <bradfa> This newfangled 4.7 stuff I still have to check out
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  • [13:26:45] <bradfa> I like reading about clang and llvm, never tried though
  • [13:27:56] <jsabeaudry> bradfa, hmmm the configs are completely different, perhaps there is something wrong with the one I use
  • [13:28:27] <bradfa> I didn't compare them. Mine is am335x_evm_defconfig with a few small tweaks
  • [13:28:45] <bradfa> like no freq scaling, no usb gadgets, and enabling of devtmpfs
  • [13:30:04] <jsabeaudry> I installed a big fan see if i can still repro
  • [13:30:28] <bradfa> http://www.bigassfans.com/
  • [13:30:31] <bradfa> work safe
  • [13:31:03] <jsabeaudry> if the fan doesnt do the trick I'll look into the config thing
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  • [13:33:51] <bradfa> Arago kernel repo got patch today for cpsw related things, might be useful? http://arago-project.org/git/projects/?p=linux-am33x.git;a=commit;h=0d0567b6c1a61a374120b985559768077c511a6d
  • [13:34:10] <xxiao> is it possible to bitbake virtual/kernel (after some local hack) without change the PR value?
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  • [13:35:10] <xxiao> only after i modified PR then a new kernel was built, otherwise it will fetch from sstate-cache no matter what i tried
  • [13:36:17] <koen> bradfa: it looks like that one needs the 2 patches I posted yesterday
  • [13:36:35] <bradfa> koen, and I take it those aren't in Arago yet?
  • [13:37:07] <koen> right
  • [13:37:18] <bradfa> wtf
  • [13:37:50] <iso9660> I wish to congrat the people in charge of the hardfloat compilation of the BeagleBoard Ubuntu 12.04 hardfloat version. After 2 years I think it's the first version that I feel confortable with!!! It flies!!! I think this is a very remarcable version!!!
  • [13:38:16] <koen> heh
  • [13:38:39] <koen> you do know that going from softfp to hardfloat give pretty much no speedup, right?
  • [13:38:49] <xxiao> koen: is it possible to bitbake -f a kernel without modifying PR, thanks
  • [13:39:23] <koen> xxiao: yes, but only if you are stupid
  • [13:39:30] <koen> if you make a change, bump PR
  • [13:39:35] <koen> it's as simple as that
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  • [13:40:06] <xxiao> i used to short-cut it, go to tmp/.../git and build, now want to use bitbake for the whole deploy, bumping PR took a long while to build
  • [13:40:13] <iso9660> I supose not in the kernel, but in programs like Codeblocks that I use to program it is three times faster
  • [13:40:16] <av500> koen: armv4 soft to armv7 hard does
  • [13:40:18] <xxiao> thanks, just want to make sure PR is the only right way
  • [13:40:28] <xxiao> as far as bitbake is concerned
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  • [13:43:26] <xxiao> i do wonder why '-f' can not do a force-rebuild, if PR is unchanged it appears '-f' has no effects on local code changes, bitbake just take them from sstate-cache based on PR?
  • [13:43:34] <xxiao> what's the purpose of -f then
  • [13:44:31] <xxiao> for virtual/kernel i would expect -f can trigger a clean of sstate-cache, or at -c clean time,
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  • [13:44:47] <koen> sstate works with checksums
  • [13:45:04] <koen> so if you add a patch to the SRC_URI, it will rebuild automatically
  • [13:45:24] <koen> but -c compile -f works here, though
  • [13:46:30] <xxiao> i updated defconfig(to add a few modules), then a -c clean; -c compile -f never build the modules(vmlinux was built though)
  • [13:46:57] <koen> modules are a seperate step
  • [13:47:00] <xxiao> bitbake virtual/kernel does copy the packages/lib/modules/* from sstate, but the new defconfig has no effect
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  • [13:47:38] <xxiao> it appears modules build are included in virtual/kernel if i gave no other args to bitbake(e.g. -c)
  • [13:47:48] <xxiao> how to force a module build? thanks
  • [13:48:10] <koen> -c listtasks
  • [13:49:07] <stuk_gen> how can i add a package without using opkg install but using angstrong bitbake?
  • [13:49:44] <koen> switch angstrom rpm and use yum
  • [13:49:56] <koen> you have to use opkg one way or another to install an ipk
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  • [13:50:14] <stuk_gen> koen: i mean when i create kernel and rootfs
  • [13:50:24] <stuk_gen> koen: how can i add a package in a rootfs?
  • [13:50:43] <koen> cp image.bb my-image.bb ; emacs my-image.bb ; bitbake my-image.bb
  • [13:51:12] <stuk_gen> mmm
  • [13:51:18] <stuk_gen> no i need some doc
  • [13:51:54] <stuk_gen> what i'm doing is MACHINE=beagleboard ./oebb.sh bitbake virtual/kernel
  • [13:52:21] <stuk_gen> and MACHINE=your_machine ./oebb.sh bitbake systemd-gnome-image
  • [13:52:28] <stuk_gen> and this create kernel and rootfs
  • [13:52:46] <stuk_gen> now i can run iamge on bb and using opkg to install some package
  • [13:52:49] <koen> cp systemd-gnome-image.bb my-image.bb ; emacs my-image.bb ; bitbake my-image.bb
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  • [13:54:22] <stuk_gen> i don't understand the command that are you using
  • [13:54:40] <koen> cp or emacs?
  • [13:55:09] <stuk_gen> the *.bb
  • [13:55:22] <av500> its not a command
  • [13:55:24] <stuk_gen> what are you doing? copy some file for what?
  • [13:55:24] <av500> its a file
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  • [13:57:41] <stuk_gen> av500: i'm using http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom step...
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  • [13:58:21] <av500> [15:49:08] <stuk_gen> how can i add a package without using opkg install but using angstrong bitbake?
  • [13:58:28] <av500> you asked and got an answer
  • [13:58:43] <stuk_gen> ok, but i want understand the passage...
  • [13:58:50] <av500> sure
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  • [13:59:03] <av500> look at the files involved
  • [13:59:07] <av500> look inside them too
  • [13:59:42] <stuk_gen> there is more folder...one generare is build that have tmp-angrstomv2012...
  • [13:59:59] <stuk_gen> and its contains kernel image uboot rootfs.bz2 ecc..
  • [14:00:39] <stuk_gen> and there is conf script source git...that i think is the 'bitbake file to generate the tmp-angstrom file
  • [14:02:14] <stuk_gen> so i have to find where i have image.bb?
  • [14:02:17] <xxiao> koen: compile_kernelmodules got all modules built under git, it's not put into packages/ and not in deploy, -c deploy did not do that either, anything i'm missing?
  • [14:02:59] <koen> -c package_write does the package step
  • [14:03:05] <koen> and -c deploy the deploy step
  • [14:03:51] <xxiao> thanks!
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  • [14:08:05] <xxiao> hmm virtual/kernel -c package_write or deploy still only affects the kernel, not the modules after compile_kernelmodules
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  • [14:12:38] <xxiao> http://patches.openembedded.org/patch/16821/ related topic here
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  • [14:29:09] <xxiao> openembedded is not green...a simple module addition caused massive re-baking over long time, a waste of electricity, either by PR change or -f
  • [14:29:38] <koen> intel is investing in it
  • [14:29:45] <koen> that should have given you a clue :)
  • [14:30:49] * xxiao is waiting for 1000 beagleboards cook the recipes with lower power
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  • [14:31:23] <Mojito> And 1000 wall-warts to power them
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  • [14:34:09] <xxiao> i do hope bake virtual/kernel contains in-kernel modules automatically though, the adding of module is more involving than i expected, bump PR is just too slow for this
  • [14:35:20] * av500 edits a linux.config file and recompiles to "add a module"
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  • [14:35:50] <xxiao> av500: yeah i normally compile the kernel directly, bypassing bitbake,
  • [14:35:51] <av500> well, and edits another file to get that module copied over to the image
  • [14:36:06] <ogra_> so many files
  • [14:36:14] <xxiao> just started to try the bitbake route since last night, what a journey
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  • [14:36:26] <koen> I can turn it into a dbus call to make it more unix like
  • [14:36:46] <ogra_> make it a systemd job !
  • [14:36:52] <av500> koen: using a python tool?
  • [14:36:57] <xxiao> the final result: -c clean; -c cleansstate; bitbake virtualkernel; this will update modules and uImage etc, take a little less time than bumping PR
  • [14:37:17] <jsabeaudry> Well well, now approaching close to 3x to my usual maximal run time with a big fan blowing on the am335x
  • [14:38:31] <xxiao> i spent 5 hours to save 10 minutes, back to the old way, compile kernel modules etc without bitbake
  • [14:39:22] <jsabeaudry> xxiao, join the club of people who couldnt tame the oe/bb beast
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  • [14:45:47] <jsabeaudry> Ah, the temperature sensor is off and thermal shutdown are off by default?
  • [14:46:13] <mru> so thermal meltdown is on by default?
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  • [14:46:37] <Mojito> am335x has a built in thermal sensor?
  • [14:47:01] <jsabeaudry> Mojito, checkout 9.3.1.10 in the trm
  • [14:47:13] <jsabeaudry> there is an adc reading some temperature
  • [14:47:36] <Mojito> Hmm, is there a driver that provides access to that?
  • [14:48:23] <jsabeaudry> Apparently not, but I can't even turn on the sensor using devmem2
  • [14:48:34] <Mojito> I have a 'general system health' report in my app that I would like to add that to, if I could
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  • [14:49:54] <Mojito> I made note of the trm section number for future reference, and will wait for some API to appear
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  • [14:56:58] <arcanescu> if you want to display a logo @beagle startup apart from what is already there... what do I need to change?
  • [14:59:28] <av500> https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+kernel+splash
  • [15:00:13] <arcanescu> great
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  • [15:02:16] <smplman> av500: what about the orange screen that come up right when the power is switched on with an XM?
  • [15:02:35] <av500> thats in uboot
  • [15:02:57] <av500> but it could be just dss default color to orange
  • [15:03:02] <av500> not some bitmap
  • [15:03:12] <av500> but there were some patches for splash in uboot
  • [15:03:25] <av500> theres also an omap3 dss driver in uboot git afaik
  • [15:03:52] <smplman> http://android.serverbox.ch/?p=70
  • [15:03:56] <smplman> will try it out, thx
  • [15:05:08] <jsabeaudry> Sweet jesus, I resurrected a zombie beaglebone!
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  • [15:14:51] <jsabeaudry> Question of the day, are the PMIC voltages adjusted properly when running cpufreq-set -f 720000
  • [15:18:23] <arcanescu> av500: i also get on screen something like beagleboard-evm login: _ flashing_ is there a way to get rid of that aswell?
  • [15:18:59] <av500> thats probably framebuffer console
  • [15:19:04] <av500> disable it in the kernel
  • [15:19:08] <av500> fbcon something
  • [15:19:22] <arcanescu> hmmm
  • [15:19:41] <av500> its pretty useless anyway if you have serial console
  • [15:20:01] <arcanescu> true
  • [15:20:34] <av500> it's only to impress people with movie style "scrolling source code on terminal"
  • [15:21:00] <arcanescu> heh
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  • [15:35:52] <jsabeaudry> Well, looks like the beaglebone not only overheats at 720mhz but also at 500
  • [15:36:47] <av500> unsafe at any speed?
  • [15:37:05] <mdp> keep it on the track
  • [15:37:20] <jsabeaudry> av500, maybe not under 50% cpu usage, all my tests are done over 50%
  • [15:39:18] <jsabeaudry> thinking of it, at under 10% cpu usage it stays alive fine for 16+ hours
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  • [15:56:24] <jsabeaudry> Looks like temperature is not the whole answer for the gp_timer crashes
  • [15:59:13] <xxiao> anyone aware of some light-weight web-based top/vmstat monitor program? i.e. draw nice graph on cpu usage, not the snmp/big-guns
  • [16:02:31] <jay6981> rrdtool, but it will require a bit of glue
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  • [16:04:16] <mru> there are ready-made packages based on rrdtool for various data sources
  • [16:05:17] <xxiao> jay6981: i'm thinking about grab the top/vmstat/etc and feed it to a js graph module and use busybox http to present it
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  • [16:06:13] <jay6981> or feed the data to rrdtool, have rrdtool make the PNG and serve it with your httpd
  • [16:06:44] <xxiao> want to have live realtime display...
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  • [16:07:59] <xxiao> jay6981: feed realtime data to something like this: http://square.github.com/cubism/
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  • [16:09:15] <jay6981> yeah, looks neat. rrdtool might be better for long term stats gathering/visualization
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  • [16:11:24] <jsabeaudry> Wow, just found out that the "ls" command does not work in zombie state
  • [16:12:00] <mru> zombie state?
  • [16:12:29] <ogra_> thats northern of texas i think
  • [16:12:37] <ogra_> and a bit to the west
  • [16:12:45] <mru> utah?
  • [16:12:56] <ogra_> dunno, thats what a texan told me once
  • [16:13:19] <jsabeaudry> mru, after prolonged use of the beaglebone, the led stop flashing but i'm still connected by ssh, a lot of the stuff dont work anymore but some stuff still works, it's not clear how to reach this state
  • [16:13:31] <jsabeaudry> the led = the heartbeat led
  • [16:13:49] <mru> sounds like your kernel is half-dead
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  • [16:13:58] <mru> not a state I recommend staying in
  • [16:14:02] <jsabeaudry> mru, yup exactly
  • [16:14:13] <jsabeaudry> but no oops or anything on the serial console
  • [16:14:37] <jsabeaudry> well I'd love to diagnose the problem, so I hope to learn something in that state
  • [16:15:02] <jay6981> and your gp timers aren't firing?
  • [16:15:21] <toomy> i
  • [16:15:31] <mru> j
  • [16:15:31] <jsabeaudry> jay6981, nope, cat /proc/interrupts always shoes the same number for gp_timer
  • [16:15:40] <jay6981> issues related?
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  • [16:16:28] <jsabeaudry> often the dma stops working properly, sometimes it also kills the ethernet
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  • [16:17:00] <av500> jsabeaudry: on a single bone? or several?
  • [16:17:04] <jsabeaudry> many commands do nothing (have to Ctrl-C out of them) : top, htop, ls, g++, etc...
  • [16:17:17] <jsabeaudry> av500, 3 out of 3 that I have tested
  • [16:17:27] <jay6981> does the clock still increment?
  • [16:17:35] <jsabeaudry> jay6981, how do I check?
  • [16:17:44] <jay6981> type date?
  • [16:18:01] <jsabeaudry> date doesnt work: like top, htop, g++
  • [16:18:10] <jsabeaudry> if I cat /proc/uptime the first number goes up
  • [16:18:15] <jsabeaudry> but not the second
  • [16:18:27] <educa> could be asking a stupid question now, but is there a way to set a lot of output pins to a logical at the same time ? I mean in for example an arduino you can treat a port as a byte value and by writing value 255 to it you set all pins high. Is something similar possible on beaglebone or do I really have to set the 8 pins high 1 after the other (which is still extremely fast of course) ?
  • [16:18:38] <av500> sure
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  • [16:19:04] <av500> gpio pins are hooked io registers
  • [16:19:08] <av500> hooked to*
  • [16:19:26] <educa> I know how to set 1 pin high
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  • [16:19:49] <educa> but setting 8 of them is 8 times setting 1 high or also achieveable in 1 command?
  • [16:20:13] <av500> sure, write the value to the register
  • [16:20:28] <av500> (assuming kernel)
  • [16:20:29] <jay6981> you can write 8 bytes at once with a single machine instruction
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  • [16:20:38] <jay6981> probably more with simd
  • [16:20:48] <educa> 1 register is 32bits?
  • [16:20:52] <jsabeaudry> ah the dd command still works but not hexdump
  • [16:21:19] <jay6981> 32bit is the native word size so most ops are done that way
  • [16:21:37] <av500> jay6981: I guess he is using sysfs
  • [16:21:48] <jay6981> yeah
  • [16:22:06] <av500> where each gpio is treated separate
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  • [16:22:11] <educa> I use the virtual value file for for example gpio38
  • [16:22:17] <educa> yes indeed
  • [16:22:26] <av500> educa: so from user space the answer is no
  • [16:22:40] <av500> unless you patch the sysfs stuff to allow that
  • [16:23:05] <educa> ok, but with direct register access it would be possible then if I understand right?
  • [16:23:12] <av500> in your case, a simple I2C port expander might be simpler
  • [16:23:28] <jay6981> educa: yes
  • [16:23:47] <educa> and is accessing a pin through sysfs slower then direct register access?
  • [16:23:58] <jay6981> slower
  • [16:24:02] <av500> yes
  • [16:24:10] <jay6981> you have to go through many software layers to affect the change to the register
  • [16:24:20] <educa> hmmmm
  • [16:24:36] <jay6981> one price you pay by running a general purpose OS
  • [16:24:37] <educa> then I guess I learned something, but I learned the slow version
  • [16:25:04] <educa> can I from gcc directly call this register or is linux going to protect me from doing that ?
  • [16:25:29] <jay6981> it'll stop you
  • [16:25:42] <educa> ok so unless you hack kernel its a no go
  • [16:25:53] <educa> thats probably why ncbas does it all from PRUSS
  • [16:25:54] <jay6981> you could go into uboot and poke the registers yourself just to see it work
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  • [16:26:24] <jay6981> there's also that linux uio stuff that might be adaptable
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  • [16:30:14] <jay6981> educa: but yes, you will have to delve into kernel
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  • [16:39:15] * jkridner__ is on the search for the best way to poll for GPIO interrupts from userspace.
  • [16:39:59] <educa> poll?
  • [16:40:02] <jkridner__> http://pod.tst.eu/http://cvs.schmorp.de/libev/ev.pod has some glorious words on using epoll: Epoll is truly the train wreck among event poll mechanisms, a frankenpoll, cobbled together in a hurry, no thought to design or interaction with others. Oh, the pain, will it ever stop...
  • [16:40:31] <av500> educa: yes, polling for interrupts is en vogue in 2012
  • [16:41:04] <jkridner__> my problem with poll is it doesn't allow me to avoid entire redesign of my event loop, which is based on libev.
  • [16:41:26] <jkridner__> POLLPRI is not supported by libev...
  • [16:41:49] <jkridner__> why the writers of gpio didn't make the device simply work like input events, I have no idea.
  • [16:42:13] <jkridner__> maybe because that would have just worked?
  • [16:42:49] <av500> jkridner__: send a patch?
  • [16:42:54] <jkridner__> https://www.ridgerun.com/developer/wiki/index.php/Gpio-int-test.c provides a nice poll example, but I can't use it.
  • [16:43:16] <jkridner__> I'm considering it, but I was hoping to get something working first.
  • [16:43:29] <av500> why not use it?
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  • [16:43:46] <jkridner__> because libev doesn't support POLLPRI.
  • [16:43:57] <jkridner__> and my event loop is build with libev.
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  • [16:44:10] <av500> send a patch?
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  • [16:48:26] <av500> jkridner__: is it just a matter of setting that flag?
  • [16:48:50] <av500> lol: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.ev/1562
  • [16:48:59] <jkridner__> I don't know, but the documentation clearly states that it is not supported.
  • [16:49:22] <av500> and that stops you?
  • [16:49:37] <av500> what mext? red traffic lights?
  • [16:49:43] <av500> next*
  • [16:49:49] <jkridner__> well, I need to see if epoll supports POLLPRI...
  • [16:50:03] <jkridner__> what is wrong about that response is that epoll *is* Linux specific.
  • [16:50:34] <av500> well, I bet libev is widely used on HPUX, AIX, Solaris etc...
  • [16:50:49] <av500> so adding linux specific stuff must be a burden....
  • [16:50:59] <av500> yet even to find people to support it....
  • [16:51:45] <jay6981> i guess linux doesn't have kqueue
  • [16:52:11] <av500> and?
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  • [17:11:16] <sakoman_> jkridner__: why not edit your board file and set up the gpio with gpio-keys, then you can have the desired input event
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  • [17:11:43] <av500> I guess he wants it more generic
  • [17:11:49] <jkridner__> because I'm trying to make a dynamic environment.
  • [17:11:52] <jkridner__> yup.
  • [17:12:05] <jkridner__> I don't think I can insmod gpio-keys w/o platform data.
  • [17:12:14] <av500> use DT
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  • [17:12:44] <jkridner__> can I use DT to provide the platform data and still unload the gpio-keys driver?
  • [17:13:00] <jkridner__> for that matter, it would be nice to be able to unload gpio-leds
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  • [17:14:47] <Jelmer_> Hi All, does anyone have some tips to get oss support from the alsa drivers under Angstrom on the Beaglebone? I can't find the /dev/dsp folder nor the right kernel module to load
  • [17:14:53] <jkridner__> I almost have epoll working on GPIO events---that'll hopefully work with libev/node.js.
  • [17:15:08] <jkridner__> for some reason, the read only returns the first time, so I probably have to issue a seek.
  • [17:15:12] <Jelmer_> is there a way to install it or do I have to compile a custom kernel?
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  • [17:18:04] <av500> discuss: http://www.hotbot.com/
  • [17:19:05] <mru> the page has more white than I recall from last time I looked at it, ~1997
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  • [17:21:32] <sakoman_> jkridner__: yes, you need to issue a seek to "reset" the poll
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  • [17:22:16] <sakoman_> jkridner__: oh, you are using epoll, I've never used that
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  • [17:22:21] <av500> Jelmer_: OSS emulation is most likely not configured
  • [17:22:41] <av500> or maybe you need to load a module
  • [17:22:41] <mru> can we have oss with alsa emulation instead?
  • [17:22:49] <sakoman_> jkridner__: but with poll you definitely need a seek after each poll completes
  • [17:22:50] <jkridner__> seems to work similarly, as far as I have encountered so far, despite the warnings.
  • [17:23:52] <Jelmer_> i think you need to modprobe the snd-pcm-oss module, but that fails because its not there
  • [17:23:58] <Jelmer_> now how do i get it there?
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  • [17:25:48] <jkridner__> sakoman_: oddly, my polltest.c code didn't have a seek and kept reading new values.
  • [17:25:53] <Jelmer_> i just need the /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer interfaces for my application, i don't care who emulates whom ;)
  • [17:26:00] <av500> Jelmer_: do you have aoss?
  • [17:26:51] <Jelmer_> yes
  • [17:27:01] <av500> aoss <your app>
  • [17:27:16] <av500> thats the new alsa way of doing oss
  • [17:29:17] <Jelmer_> ooh, that got me a little further indeed
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  • [17:29:50] <Jelmer_> still got /dev/dsp: Invalid argument but thats already better than file not found
  • [17:30:00] <Jelmer_> thanks av500 !
  • [17:30:24] <av500> de rien
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  • [17:32:09] <jkridner__> k, I'm happy with my epolltest
  • [17:34:36] <av500> koen: I guess you dropped snd-pcm-oss? or is that still in modules.tgz?
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  • [17:41:49] <jkridner__> fyi: https://gist.github.com/2587524
  • [17:42:27] <koen> av500: dunno
  • [17:42:45] <koen> av500: I haven't usethe OSS interface in ages
  • [17:43:37] <av500> koen: but you might now if it being built?
  • [17:43:53] <koen> zcat /proc/config.gz
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  • [17:45:31] <av500> CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=y
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  • [17:47:41] <av500> hmm, and /dev/dsp
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  • [17:55:01] <jsabeaudry> Anyone else getting a 500 on this https://github.com/koenkooi/linux/branches
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  • [17:55:49] <jsabeaudry> ah a couple of refreshes did the trick
  • [18:00:40] <mdp> github is often flaky like that for me on the branches/ links
  • [18:01:42] <mdp> I think tubes get a little clogged from time to time
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  • [18:07:00] <ncbas> jkridner, the sample you're using is missing the needed lseek in the loop. The you get a value each time.
  • [18:07:27] <jkridner__> I have an lseek in the loop
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  • [18:07:45] <ncbas> Then what is not working?
  • [18:07:51] <av500> gpios are seekable?
  • [18:07:53] <jkridner__> it is working.
  • [18:08:03] <jkridner__> I was just showing off the final working test program.
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  • [18:08:27] <jkridner__> av500: yes, I'm seeking time.
  • [18:08:33] <ncbas> Ah, must have missed something. Just saw your troubles.
  • [18:09:00] <jkridner__> the last comment was that I needed a seek, so I added it and posted the results along with the working output.
  • [18:09:26] <jkridner__> you can see that the value is toggling between 1 and 0...
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  • [18:09:49] <jkridner__> i could tell locally it was happing at the 1 second periodic rate at which I have the input toggling.
  • [18:10:03] <ncbas> Yup, I should have read the complete backlog of several hours not being online.
  • [18:10:38] <jkridner__> I haven't bothered to save the commands to set the GPIO to the right mode.
  • [18:10:50] <jkridner__> echo in > direction
  • [18:10:55] <jkridner__> echo both > edge
  • [18:11:07] <ds2> quit using the raw GPIO interfaces for LEDs!
  • [18:11:27] <jkridner__> who said anything about LEDs?
  • [18:11:28] <ds2> use a proper driver so you don't accidentally fry the ball drivers!
  • [18:11:39] <ds2> that was a general complain
  • [18:11:43] <ds2> :)
  • [18:11:43] <jkridner__> :)
  • [18:12:01] <ds2> letting sw folks configure pinmuxes and gpio direction is downright dangerous
  • [18:12:11] <jkridner__> it is laughable how many people do it in videos that they post to the web.
  • [18:12:23] <jkridner__> indeed.
  • [18:12:26] <ds2> *nod*
  • [18:12:47] <jkridner__> at least series resistors on the board might have been a bit nice, but it would mess up some interfacing.
  • [18:12:51] <av500> its the HW guys that have to make sure nothing bad can happen
  • [18:13:14] <ds2> okay, let's forbid all inputs ;)
  • [18:13:34] <ds2> and put optoisolators on all the outputs
  • [18:13:38] <jkridner__> in my test, I didn't have a resistor handy and I directly tied P8_3 to P8_5. :-o
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  • [18:15:41] <mdp> jsabeaudry: in fact, 500ing now on my repo trying to get a link for somebody :(
  • [18:16:18] <jsabeaudry> mdp, ya i think github doesnt like branches ironically
  • [18:17:01] <mdp> hardcore forking action works well though
  • [18:17:58] <ds2> mdp: do you know of anyone hooking a CC2500 (directly) onto any of the chips you work on?
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  • [18:22:03] <mdp> ds2, cc2591 in this one: http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/334
  • [18:22:06] <mdp> is that close enough?
  • [18:22:26] <ds2> let me see what the cc2591 is
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  • [18:24:02] <mranostay> mdp: there are children present :P
  • [18:24:09] <mdp> nm, I figured it was in the same family without looking
  • [18:24:21] <ds2> mdp: this one is just a radio... doesn't have the demod blocks. was tryign to find out how much bypassing I need extra on the SPI lines
  • [18:24:24] <mdp> it's just a range extender companion
  • [18:24:27] <mdp> yeah
  • [18:24:34] <ds2> yeah
  • [18:25:09] <av500> bah, 3703 has no sgx
  • [18:25:16] <av500> nest cannot run android - fail
  • [18:25:28] <ds2> guess I'll just throw it into the entire mix of other variables
  • [18:25:37] <mranostay> mdp: so that is the infamous thermostat?
  • [18:25:43] <ds2> av500: GB should be runable
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  • [18:26:58] <av500> hmm, 64MB only
  • [18:27:04] <av500> will be tough for GB even
  • [18:27:41] <ds2> depends on what patches you pull in
  • [18:28:02] <ds2> IIRC, I think the at91sam folks have patches to make it run okay
  • [18:28:11] <mdp> I'm sure they were warned that they would fail as a thermostat if they didn't plan for an ICS upgrade path
  • [18:28:16] <mru> can I patch /dev/mem and make it bigger?
  • [18:28:23] <mdp> but we still take their money
  • [18:28:39] <ds2> food, bb
  • [18:29:20] <mdp> ds2, I might have some info but it'll take a few minutes of digging
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  • [19:53:24] <mdp> mranostay: that is a fancy thermostat, yes
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  • [20:03:21] <koen> rcn-ee: is sound supposed to work in 3.2?
  • [20:03:38] <koen> rcn-ee: I get an error in xbmc, but I haven't looked beyond that :)
  • [20:04:24] * prpplague pokes koen in the eye with a sharp stick
  • [20:04:38] <mru> that's not very nice
  • [20:04:49] <prpplague> koen: you had a chance to try the new version of fb-test?
  • [20:04:55] <rcn-ee> sound on the beagle is a little bit of a mess in 3.2, you need right combo of module/built-in and the right settings for alsa, along with turnning on the right channel...
  • [20:05:11] <rcn-ee> i kinda gave up figuring that one out.
  • [20:05:15] <mru> I sent patches to fix the module messup a long, long time ago
  • [20:05:17] <mru> they were ignored
  • [20:05:30] * mru is not motivated to forward-port and resend
  • [20:05:37] <rcn-ee> yeap, they were, i pulled them in.. then they re-wrote them again. ;)
  • [20:05:54] <koen> prpplague: not yet, stuck in documentation land
  • [20:06:01] <prpplague> koen: ahh ok
  • [20:07:06] <educa> any1 happen to know if there is a gnu pascal to run on the angstrom os that came with my bone rev5 ?
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  • [20:08:07] <mru> pascal, yuck
  • [20:08:13] <mru> hasn't that been deleted yet?
  • [20:08:24] <XorA> rm -rf /pascal
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  • [20:09:03] <educa> nice to see pascal has fans here. Did you know that pascal sometimes even outputs more optimised asm then c?
  • [20:09:08] <educa> (NOT ALWAYS of course) :)
  • [20:09:20] <mru> that's a stupid statement
  • [20:09:39] <mru> C and pascal as languages sit at roughly the same level
  • [20:09:54] <mru> how efficient code you get depends entirely on the compiler
  • [20:10:05] <XorA> pascal is 4x more verbose :-D
  • [20:10:05] <educa> your "yuck" was also nog that nice
  • [20:10:15] <educa> nog=not
  • [20:10:24] <mru> it was aimed at pascal, not you
  • [20:10:25] <educa> I just meant it, pascal isn't that bad
  • [20:10:35] <educa> I know mru
  • [20:10:40] <educa> absolutely no hard feelings
  • [20:10:42] <educa> ;)
  • [20:10:44] <XorA> the linux pascal compiler sucks BTW
  • [20:10:45] <mru> for anything more elaborate than "hello world", pascal is actually quite horrible
  • [20:10:50] <jay6981> not exactly a ringing endorsement :)
  • [20:11:05] <mru> XorA: "the"?
  • [20:11:10] * XorA has earned many $$$
  • [20:11:17] <XorA> mru: there is more than one?
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  • [20:11:51] <mru> XorA: there is one?
  • [20:12:09] <educa> problem is all my life I code in delphi on windows, so used to pascal. I know basics of ansi C, but now it looks like I will write on the beaglebone in C and since I want to have a running program which is also listening on a socket for some data, it looks like I'll have a lot to learn, most likely about threading.....
  • [20:12:40] <jay6981> or learn to use select/poll/epoll
  • [20:13:02] <educa> ic, well anyway lots to learn :)
  • [20:13:10] <mru> pascal or no pascal, programming beaglebone/linux will be nothing like delphi on windows
  • [20:13:24] <educa> mru , of course its totally different
  • [20:13:49] * XorA remembers the linux delphi port
  • [20:13:56] <educa> lazarus
  • [20:13:56] <rcn-ee> koen, i just pushed mru's audio patch fixes i had to the shared tree, it majorly fixes the module loading, you'll still have to set the correct audio channel thou..
  • [20:14:38] <XorA> Release Notes: This release adds an Objective-Pascal dialect (supported on all Mac OS X and iOS targets), many Delphi compatibility mode improvements, and various new ARM code generator features.
  • [20:14:46] <XorA> sounds like it cross compiles :-D
  • [20:15:25] <Mojito> USB sound works ok on the BBone. No module stuff to fool with
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  • [20:20:37] <_av500_> for some reason delphi does not want to die
  • [20:20:55] <educa> ;)
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  • [20:21:08] <xxiao> pyscript is by delphi?
  • [20:21:20] <_av500_> i know a delphi dev that went android and his company had a hard time to replace him
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  • [20:22:51] <_av500_> delphi is the cobol of the PC era
  • [20:23:17] * XorA used to make money from Delphi
  • [20:23:21] <XorA> many years ago
  • [20:23:28] <ds2> isn't Delphi like the remote ancestor of VB?
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  • [20:23:51] <_av500_> like javascript is the cobol of the web 2.0 era
  • [20:24:05] <Mojito> I thought Java was the new COBOL
  • [20:24:11] <mru> it is
  • [20:24:13] <jay6981> javascript != java
  • [20:24:23] <_av500_> no really?
  • [20:24:24] <mru> java is the new enterprise cobol
  • [20:24:34] <mru> everything has a cobol
  • [20:25:15] * _av500_ eats the kids' leftover school sandwiches
  • [20:25:20] <Mojito> I used to work in a COBOL shop. And people criticize Java for being too wordy...
  • [20:25:28] <wmat> mru: nah, cobol devs still make more ;)
  • [20:25:34] <jay6981> i thought delphi was a response to VB
  • [20:25:48] <educa> :)
  • [20:26:04] <_av500_> delphi was borlands reponse to "huh, a gui"
  • [20:26:08] <XorA> C++Builder was the bastard child of Delphi :-D
  • [20:26:15] <XorA> an amusing mix of Pascal and C
  • [20:26:17] <mru> I don't remember which came first of delphi and vb, but I don't think they are directly related
  • [20:26:32] <_av500_> vb came later
  • [20:26:33] <XorA> VB and Delphi pretty much came same time
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  • [20:26:45] <_av500_> or that
  • [20:27:00] <XorA> I was using Deplhi 1 and VB 2 at same time I think
  • [20:27:01] <mru> either way, no real programmer would touch either of them with a 10-foot pole
  • [20:27:11] <jay6981> visual foxpro and visual objects
  • [20:27:18] <XorA> VB started on windows 3.1
  • [20:27:19] <mru> so XorA must either have a 20-foot pole or he's not a real programmer
  • [20:27:32] <educa> delphi was always more powerfull then vb
  • [20:27:41] <_av500_> mru: he is a brogrammer
  • [20:27:44] <educa> but its more used by very specific customers
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  • [20:28:09] <XorA> no-one has complained of my pole size anyway ;-)
  • [20:28:37] <XorA> but when it comes to languages I program what people pay $$$ for
  • [20:28:42] <Mojito> Knowledge of dead programming languages can come in handy if you are a contractor who gets called in to fix very old systems. An employment person once told me to leave the "MUMPS" in my resume...
  • [20:28:58] <XorA> so Ive done VB, Delphi, Javasctips, Java, Perl
  • [20:29:01] <educa> maybe a stupid question, but I'm currently having fun (not) editing a .c file using putty on the beaglebone itself. Is there a way (doable for beginner like me) to get access to my /home/root like if it were a physical drive on my windows pc ?
  • [20:29:11] <_av500_> sure
  • [20:29:18] <_av500_> oh, windows
  • [20:29:21] <_av500_> well, samba
  • [20:29:26] <ds2> no programmer would touch it with a 10M pole ;)
  • [20:29:26] <XorA> opkg install samba :-D
  • [20:29:46] <Robin> anyone booted the latest Angstrom img on beaglebone? The original img works fine but the new one stalls...
  • [20:29:51] <Mojito> samba lets you access a remote Windows "share"
  • [20:30:03] <_av500_> it also serves one
  • [20:30:34] <_av500_> educa: you can also export a drive on windows and mount it with -t cifs
  • [20:30:42] <_av500_> thats probably easier
  • [20:31:02] <_av500_> instand backup as well
  • [20:31:05] * XorA wonders if he can get Pascal for his zx81
  • [20:31:09] <_av500_> instant
  • [20:31:12] <educa> ic, would be easy if I knew what to type
  • [20:31:25] <_av500_> type your account
  • [20:31:29] <educa> av500 what do you mean ? I type this in the beagle?
  • [20:31:31] <_av500_> type your account # and pin
  • [20:31:35] <_av500_> no here
  • [20:31:45] * ogra_ gets pen and paper
  • [20:31:55] * _av500_ opens log file
  • [20:32:00] <XorA> ogra_: make mine a tall cold one?
  • [20:32:37] <ogra_> XorA, which ? your pin or your accuont # ? :P
  • [20:33:19] <XorA> ogra_: the beers you can buy now they got cheaper
  • [20:33:38] <_av500_> educa: mount -t cifs windows_ip/share /some_random_folder
  • [20:33:43] <_av500_> something like that
  • [20:33:48] <_av500_> google knows
  • [20:33:54] <ogra_> XorA, oh, no prob, yeah, indeed
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  • [20:34:07] <XorA> /windows_ip/share /folder
  • [20:34:11] <XorA> //windows_ip/share /folder
  • [20:34:16] <_av500_> ///////
  • [20:34:28] <XorA> goddam irc nicking me //
  • [20:34:43] <mru> /\/\/\/
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  • [20:55:24] <mdp> ds2: I went back and looked a bit at cc2500..definitely haven't seen anybody use that one with these parts yet???but I only see the tiniest of tiny tiny fractions of designs
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  • [20:59:59] <Jelmer_> koen: what version do you have on your bone? because my "zcat /proc/config.gz" gives "# CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS is not set # CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS is not set # CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS is not set"
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  • [21:00:34] <Jelmer_> mine is: Linux version 3.2.0+ (koen@dominion) (gcc version 4.5.4 20111126 (prerelease) (GCC) ) #1 Fri Feb 10 09:53:04 CET 2012
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  • [21:01:08] <Jelmer_> oh that was for av500, sorry koen
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  • [21:05:59] <_av500_> Linux beagleboard 3.0.17+ #1 Fri Jan 13 14:39:56 CET 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [21:06:05] <Russ> nice - ' Large open rooms, detached garage, needs paint carpet and a big dumpster.'
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  • [21:07:35] <_av500_> you like big dumpsters?
  • [21:08:39] <mdp> Russ, "previously featured on Hoarders"
  • [21:12:35] <Jelmer_> hmm so i guess its not included anymore in the newer builds
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  • [21:20:08] <_av500_> blame koen
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  • [21:23:46] <Russ> I do like an honest listing
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  • [21:55:04] <ds2> mdp: okya, thanks. was the CC2400 more common?
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  • [21:57:15] <mdp> I haven't seen that either???several designs are using the 802.15.4 stuff and zigbee for access to the smart energy profiles
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  • [21:59:14] <mdp> I've got a couple cc2400 modules coming for my own personal eval..so in theory I'll have a project with those eventually :)
  • [22:01:02] <ds2> supposely, the cc2500 is to replace the cc2400
  • [22:01:09] <ds2> cc2400 is listed as NRND
  • [22:01:22] <mdp> outside of our processors, I see a lot of people in mcu-land doing cc110l/cc1100 and cc2400 for cost sensitive stuff
  • [22:02:04] <ds2> there is a nice bt sniffer designed based around the cc2400
  • [22:02:21] <mdp> yeah, I got some cheap modules from circuitspecialists
  • [22:02:25] <ds2> would be nice to get that working on say the bone with a CC2500 (actually a RF2500T)
  • [22:02:35] <ds2> cheap?!?!? how can you get cheaper then RF2500T's?
  • [22:02:51] <mdp> want to compare against the 110l
  • [22:03:05] <ds2> 110L? is that a nordic or?
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  • [22:06:15] <mdp> that's the "value line" xcvr
  • [22:06:24] <mdp> not 2.4ghz
  • [22:06:35] <ds2> ah. didn't recogonize it w/o the CC prefix
  • [22:07:54] <mdp> oops..gotta go from work to "chores" now
  • [22:07:55] <mdp> bbl
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