• [00:02:04] <emeb> check out these high power susceptibility test antennas: http://www.arww-rfmicro.com/html/13100.asp?S=1
  • [00:02:13] <emeb> 15kW - *cough*
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  • [00:05:07] <emeb> Anything that needs a beefy tripod...
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  • [00:47:50] <emeb> prpplague: has gone linear.
  • [00:48:10] <prpplague> indeed
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  • [01:20:18] <borillion> turns out my image was corrupt somehow and was not booting with video
  • [01:20:29] <borillion> downloading it elsewhere helped
  • [01:20:45] <borillion> so weird
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  • [01:22:18] <prpplague> koen: ho ho hum, trying to decide if i want to remove some comments from some my g+ posts
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  • [01:31:40] <borillion> lol, does anyone know about these idc files, do they get rolled into the kernel ?
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  • [03:28:26] <ds2> hmmm?
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  • [03:53:14] <smorloc> I just got a BeagleBone. I was trying to evaluate it on a Windows 7 system. Has anyone else had problems with the FDTI (serial) and network drivers installing?
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  • [04:34:58] <nataraj> users
  • [04:35:04] <nataraj> sorry
  • [04:37:07] <nataraj> .text _text_link_address_ :
  • [04:37:07] <nataraj> AT ( _text_section_address_ ) what does _text_section_address_ represent?
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  • [05:36:02] <XMPPwocky> aha
  • [05:36:15] * XMPPwocky finally got openocd to make sense
  • [05:36:22] <mranostay> heh
  • [05:36:31] <XMPPwocky> need to have the speed way down
  • [05:36:47] <XMPPwocky> and gdb breakpoints don't work so I have to grab addresses
  • [05:36:56] <XMPPwocky> doesn't matter, fixed bugs
  • [05:39:40] <XMPPwocky> so where's the datasheet for the baglebone DDRs?
  • [05:40:39] <XMPPwocky> oh, found it
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  • [05:43:38] <XMPPwocky> the MT47H128M16RT-25E:C
  • [05:43:44] <XMPPwocky> rolls off the tongue
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  • [05:48:35] <XMPPwocky> hm
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  • [05:48:47] <XMPPwocky> so wait, all the docs say it's a 2GB module
  • [05:49:05] <_av500_> bit
  • [05:49:08] <_av500_> not byte
  • [05:49:09] <XMPPwocky> uhhh
  • [05:49:10] <XMPPwocky> oh
  • [05:49:16] <XMPPwocky> really
  • [05:49:26] <XMPPwocky> that's really annoying :P
  • [05:49:34] <_av500_> yes, memory is sold in bits
  • [05:50:30] <XMPPwocky> well, sure makes comparing "bandwidth of a guy carring DDRs" and "bandwidth of household internet connection" easier :P
  • [05:50:57] <_av500_> well, byte could be 7 bit or 9
  • [05:51:08] <XMPPwocky> oh great, parity :/
  • [05:51:22] <XMPPwocky> this is applicable to me when I try hardware stuff: ttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/234/137/5c4.jpg
  • [05:52:08] <mranostay> cars are such money pits
  • [05:52:35] <XMPPwocky> and it mentions "128 Meg" and such- is that megabits too?
  • [05:54:30] <_sundar_> XMPPwocky, Murphy's law: When you want is a Mega Byte, manufacturer would sell only in Mega bit
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  • [05:58:32] <mranostay> technology sucks film at 11
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  • [05:59:07] <XMPPwocky> least I have a debugger
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  • [06:15:43] <ds2> Hmmm
  • [06:20:09] <emeb_mac> there's that noisy transformer again.
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  • [07:32:22] <kristrev> Hello. I have a problem booting the demo images, and wondered if anyone has experienced the same
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  • [07:33:16] <kristrev> I have the Beaglebone rev. 5 and no matter which Debian demo image I try, the boot always stops at "Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel S"
  • [07:33:50] <kristrev> I have tried several different memory cards, including reformatting the one that came with the board, so I dont think that should be the problem
  • [07:34:42] <kristrev> the only information I get from the boot log is that startpar has hung for 120 sec
  • [07:35:19] <av500> maybe ask the debian people?
  • [07:35:38] <LetoThe2nd> or rather, don't tell us "no matter what", tell us exactly what you use.
  • [07:35:46] <av500> as far as I know, beagleboard.org does not provide debian based demo images
  • [07:35:53] <kristrev> Ok
  • [07:35:54] <LetoThe2nd> the debian images from rcn-ee are known to work
  • [07:36:03] <aholler> kristrev: debian has a kernel which works with the bone?
  • [07:36:16] <kristrev> I use the latest debian demo image from rcn-ee, the one from 29th March
  • [07:36:33] <LetoThe2nd> aholler: nope, according to his guide you bild a patched one.
  • [07:36:50] <kristrev> or, the demo images are from the elinux-wiki
  • [07:37:23] <kristrev> I dont think it is a Debian-problem, as the equivalent Debian x86 version runs perfectly on my desktop
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  • [07:37:55] <LetoThe2nd> telling us... what, exactly?
  • [07:38:35] <kristrev> That there is something when combining the debian demo image and my beaglebone/memory card that goes wrong
  • [07:39:16] <kristrev> if I use the demo image on my beagleboard on the same memory card (with the correct bootloader), it also works
  • [07:41:06] <LetoThe2nd> well, i used this guide: http://eewiki.net/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone and it works ;)
  • [07:41:22] <_tasslehoff_> koen: have you tried getting ogre working in oe-core?
  • [07:41:46] <aholler> kristrev: you have a serial attached and you would see kernel errors on that console, do you?
  • [07:41:55] <kristrev> ok, cool, I will give it a second go
  • [07:42:46] <kristrev> aholler: Yes, I have serial attached and what I see is that the boot process goes without a hitch, but then it hangs
  • [07:44:46] <_sundar_> kristrev, why don't you pastebin the logs
  • [07:44:49] <aholler> and you disabled quiet?
  • [07:47:45] <av500> hmm, the same image to run on beagleboard and beaglebone?
  • [07:48:31] <LetoThe2nd> av500: concerning userland only, why not
  • [07:50:32] <mranostay> av500: you don't have cancer right? being helpful and such? :)
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  • [07:56:58] <koen> _tasslehoff_: no
  • [07:57:08] <kristrev> here is the bootlog: http://pastebin.com/ND9XuXbQ
  • [07:58:21] <mranostay> morning mr koen
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  • [08:02:48] <Miklos> Anyone here know how to get a newer Chrome for armel than the ver6 in Squeeze? :)
  • [08:03:37] <mranostay> compile it?
  • [08:06:06] <_tasslehoff_> koen: no reason it shouldn't work? I'm trying to put together the recipes now, and just want to make sure p(sisyphus) is low :)
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  • [08:07:25] <Miklos> mranostay - I'd like to avoid reinventing the wheel
  • [08:07:46] <Miklos> I doubt I'm the first to use a Chrome browser form this century on armel :)
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  • [08:09:01] * av500 notices that these days "a Davinci" is a DM368...
  • [08:11:36] <_sundar_> av500, and the code written for a DM368 is Davinci code?
  • [08:12:13] <av500> yes
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  • [08:13:19] <_sundar_> i like the TI way of naming their chips/components. Davinci, Ducati
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  • [08:13:52] <av500> Benelli
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  • [08:16:56] <XorA> morning
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  • [08:32:50] <koen> _tasslehoff_: it should work
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  • [08:54:35] <aholler> got my volksoszi ;)
  • [08:54:51] <av500> \o/
  • [08:55:49] <av500> aholler: does it come with a GPL notice?
  • [08:56:39] <aholler> not printed, maybe on the cd
  • [08:56:53] <aholler> but I wouldn't expect that
  • [08:57:20] <av500> so, call conrad support and ask them for the gpl stuff
  • [08:58:54] <aholler> I will ask for the source, but not by phone.
  • [09:01:01] <kristrev> ok, building it manually (using the guide from eewiki and latest uboot/kernel) got me one step closer to making it work. Now, it is able to at least start some services before hanging. However, I no longer see this message that a service has timed out. I put the bootlog here: http://pastebin.com/0kWSVcgW
  • [09:03:43] <kristrev> comparing against the log from a sucsessful boot, it seems like my BeagleBone crashes right before the login prompt should be shown
  • [09:04:27] <kristrev> ah, the message about the startup task appeard, it just took longer than before
  • [09:04:37] <LetoThe2nd> hm. pure guesswork: power issues?
  • [09:05:03] <kristrev> good quest, I dont think so as I have tried with two different 5V adapters, as well as USB
  • [09:05:33] <LetoThe2nd> and i guess the angstrom images worked fine?
  • [09:05:38] <kristrev> yes
  • [09:05:43] <LetoThe2nd> ok
  • [09:06:39] <LetoThe2nd> any funny things connected to the bone?
  • [09:06:50] <kristrev> no, nothing
  • [09:06:56] <kristrev> I also removed Ethernet, just in case
  • [09:07:06] <_sundar_> kristrev, are you starting login prompt in the correct console?
  • [09:07:39] <kristrev> I think so, I added S:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 ttyO0 to inittab
  • [09:08:02] <kristrev> but would that error cause the timeout to appear in my boot log?
  • [09:08:12] <_sundar_> yes it should
  • [09:08:53] <kristrev> ok
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  • [09:17:08] <kristrev> I found one working demo image, the one from feb. 5, which uses the psp1 kernel
  • [09:17:28] <kristrev> However, the reason I want to change is that this causes problems with a usb-device I depend on
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  • [09:30:36] <kristrev> is there a way to find out if I send the login prompt to the wrong console, or, is there a way to figure out which is right?
  • [09:36:21] <kristrev> this is probably caused by it hanging, but at no point during boot does it reply to any key presses (for example enter)
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  • [10:04:17] <satel_enginner> Hi at everybody
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  • [10:04:44] <satel_enginner> I have a problem with my beaglebone
  • [10:06:08] <satel_enginner> I want remove the shell service by the USB connection (ttyO0) when I reboot the beaglebone, how can I do that?
  • [10:08:12] <satel_enginner> I don't know how to remove the shell service on this port, anybody can help me?
  • [10:09:37] <av500> I guess you fiddle around with systemd
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  • [10:41:57] <av500> what a sad day: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1279025
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  • [10:44:20] <LetoThe2nd> hrhrhr
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  • [10:44:49] <koen> av500: sad that you won't have a tgz on ftp anymore or sad that they now is an "active" git tree for 2.4?
  • [10:45:36] <mdp> stuck with 2.6 bloatware now
  • [10:46:07] <koen> I heard 2.8 was pretty good, but they kept it behind a paywall
  • [10:49:37] <mdp> I have a 2.8 subscription
  • [10:49:45] <LetoThe2nd> koen: probably tanenbaum sued them.
  • [10:50:41] <mdp> 2.8 moved to a microkernel, finally admitting the the original design was an epic fail
  • [10:51:02] <aholler> hurd 2.8?
  • [10:51:37] <LetoThe2nd> i've heard tanenbaum himself was at embedded world in nuremberg, trying to convince everybody that minix so much cooler than linux. haven't met/listened to him in person, though ;)
  • [10:52:53] <av500> 10?? cooler at typical workloads?
  • [10:53:23] <LetoThe2nd> probably.
  • [10:53:25] <koen> av500: you'll have to convert that to american
  • [10:53:37] <av500> 10?? cooler at american workloads
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  • [10:58:19] <icota> koen: your last commit finally makes the 3.5 LCD work?
  • [10:58:25] <koen> yes
  • [10:58:33] <koen> turns out the PLL is 2x pixclock
  • [10:58:39] <koen> and doesn't work at low frequencies
  • [10:58:41] <icota> yes, i see
  • [10:58:57] <icota> well it doesn't seem to work for me
  • [10:58:59] <av500> koen: there is ALWAYS a divider somewhere
  • [10:59:24] <icota> koen: how do you guys test? does it _just work_, ie you get the console onscreen?
  • [10:59:55] <koen> icota: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/7060289197/in/photostream
  • [11:00:21] <av500> koen: does it run android?
  • [11:00:40] <koen> av500: headless android, yes
  • [11:00:47] <icota> koen: funny, my cape has 4 buttons :)
  • [11:01:05] <koen> this is rev2
  • [11:01:19] <koen> so it's usefull besides android
  • [11:01:32] <koen> android was the reason there are 4 buttons on it
  • [11:02:47] <icota> nothing changed with the LCD stuff though?
  • [11:03:09] <koen> I tweaked the porches
  • [11:03:33] <koen> as you can see in http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/7060022529 it is shifted down and right
  • [11:04:12] <icota> i get nothing with fb-test
  • [11:04:29] <icota> what is the actuall command you're using?
  • [11:04:54] <icota> i do: ./fbtest -fRGB565 -s320x240 -n
  • [11:05:20] <koen> ./fb-test
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  • [11:07:11] <XorA> can I read my email on it though :_D
  • [11:07:32] <av500> on fbtest?
  • [11:08:11] <XorA> on beaglebone :-D
  • [11:08:47] <icota> koen: "testing: CLUT4 ARGB8888 for sizes" <--- stuck there, seems wrong
  • [11:09:08] <av500> XorA: you could on much less powerful systems
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  • [11:13:04] <Miklos> I can't figure out why starting x just blanks the screen and x starts and closes
  • [11:13:14] <Miklos> but screen is left blank/unusable
  • [11:13:23] <Miklos> http://paste2.org/p/1973782
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  • [11:19:04] <aholler> [ 60.589] (II) evdev: twl4030_pwrbutton: Close
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  • [11:22:19] <Miklos> I'm new to my BBxM so I'm not sure what that means
  • [11:27:51] <aholler> reads like the close button was pressed, whatever that is.
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  • [11:29:57] <aholler> your power-supply is good? tried without the usb-keybard attached?
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  • [11:32:58] <av500> who'd have thought that gpl-violations ML could be entertaining
  • [11:35:34] <mdp> boring is the new entertaining
  • [11:38:51] <koen> av500: link?
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  • [11:48:42] <koen> oh dear, it has posts from lkcl
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  • [11:55:49] <av500> koen: yeah
  • [11:56:39] <XorA> Linux Kernel Clueless List?
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  • [11:57:40] <Miklos> aholler - hmm that might be it
  • [11:57:47] <Miklos> my psu is 5V 1.5A
  • [11:57:57] <Miklos> reading online it sounds like I should get more amps
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  • [12:02:15] <kvarley> Miklos: The max the beagleboard-xm can take is 3 Amps at 5v as a direct current
  • [12:02:19] <koen> XorA: no, our old friend luke
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  • [12:16:09] <XorA> hmm, 320x240 is enough to run fuse, portable speccy here we come :-D
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  • [12:30:05] <Miklos> kvarley - I always thought that volts were the one you had to be careful with and amps just make sure there is enough in the supply
  • [12:30:15] <Miklos> but that's probably AC
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  • [12:31:29] <kvarley> Miklos: Volts is the one to be more careful about, yes. The board will typically draw 750mA of current but I read in the specification it can take up to 3Amps of load. I bought a worldwide PSU that does 5v DC with up to 3 Amps of current. Had no probems.
  • [12:32:28] <Samwan> do you guys still advise to buy a beagleboard for starting on developing with the omap platform or should I move to "newer" hardware?
  • [12:32:59] <Samwan> like pandaboard
  • [12:33:36] <kvarley> Samwan: The board still has a lot of support. However, newer platforms are available such as the PandaBoard ES. I recently purchased a Beagleboard-xM because of the community surrounding the board.
  • [12:33:50] <kvarley> Samwan: It depends what you aims are I guess.
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  • [12:35:49] <Samwan> my aim would be to make some type of linux running on it, build a VESA case, stick it behind a 17" screen and carry it with me when I need it.
  • [12:36:27] <Samwan> there are omap ports of ubuntu, I don't like ubuntu, but with an ubuntu base it should be no problem to run debian I guess
  • [12:36:36] <Samwan> so - yeah - that's my aim ^^
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  • [12:37:39] <XorA> debian arm runs fine
  • [12:37:58] <kvarley> Samwan: http://pandaboard.org/node/300/#PandaES
  • [12:38:06] <av500> Torvald's version of Linux also runs fine
  • [12:38:18] <kvarley> Samwan: The Beagleboard-xM would do fine for your requirements though.
  • [12:39:03] <Samwan> I guess firefox, flash player and gnome should run fine on the Xm
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  • [12:39:59] <av500> flash? no
  • [12:40:20] <av500> and flash is dead
  • [12:41:00] <kvarley> Firefox may be a little intensive
  • [12:41:15] <kvarley> It'll run, but you will get better performance with Midori or even Chromium with some tweaks
  • [12:41:41] <mdp> #beagleboardvspandaboardfight
  • [12:42:01] <Samwan> why does flash not run? it has the same GPU as my motorola milestone, flash runs on my motorola milestone
  • [12:42:14] <Samwan> flash is dead, but for looking movies on the internet, it's still popular
  • [12:43:28] <av500> sure, install android on the XM
  • [12:43:50] <av500> and grad the flash plugin from megaupload
  • [12:43:53] <av500> grab*
  • [12:44:15] <Samwan> so I can't use the android libflashplayer.so under other linux distros?
  • [12:44:25] <av500> you could
  • [12:44:31] <av500> ldd libflashplayer.so
  • [12:44:42] <av500> and make sure you provide all the symbols
  • [12:45:05] <Samwan> so where is the problem? Sorry I am a kind of noob.
  • [12:45:10] <av500> what is a bit of audioflinger and OMX_Codec between friends...
  • [12:45:20] <av500> Samwan: android flash wants android
  • [12:45:41] <kvarley> Samwan: Make sure you buy a serial cable or serial to usb if you don't already have one. It's needed if something doesn't boot right
  • [12:46:24] <Samwan> under ubuntu for the tegra2 arm they also tell to use the android flash so
  • [12:46:25] <Samwan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TEGRA/AC100#Installing_Adobe_Flash
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  • [12:46:59] <Samwan> kvarley: thanks I own one from my vinyl cutter
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  • [12:48:58] <Samwan> I think I will never know certainly without trying
  • [12:49:14] <Samwan> but I guess buying the beagleboard for running android on it is really useless for me
  • [12:49:29] <av500> you wanted flash
  • [12:49:51] <av500> and even on android flash is end-of-life
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  • [12:50:18] <av500> if you really need flash, get an x86 board
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  • [12:52:43] <ogra_> and windows ?
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  • [12:54:11] <kvarley> Can't wait til I get my damn serial cable
  • [12:54:33] <Samwan> for what is it needed exactly?
  • [12:54:40] <Samwan> kernel-level-debugging?
  • [12:54:42] <kvarley> To see error messages
  • [12:54:43] <kvarley> Yeah
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  • [12:54:55] <kvarley> My boot script which sets the resolution isn't working
  • [12:55:06] <kvarley> So without serial I can't know what the problem is really
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  • [12:55:22] <kvarley> I know my args for the kernel aren't getting passed but I don't know why
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  • [13:01:52] <kvarley> Is there any way to capture the boot log - bypassing the serial connection?
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  • [13:04:23] <av500> morse it over the LED
  • [13:04:55] <Samwan> which OS are you running on it?
  • [13:04:56] <kvarley> av500: I hope there's an app for it on the android market - that'd be badass
  • [13:05:11] <Samwan> if android, you could try grabbing a logcat
  • [13:05:16] <Samwan> via USB
  • [13:05:25] <Samwan> the board has native USB ports, right?
  • [13:05:25] <kvarley> Samwan: I'm running a quad-boot image by Always Innovating. Angstrom, Ubuntu, Android and Chromium OS
  • [13:05:29] <dm8tbr> kvarley: there are several morse IME apps
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  • [13:05:53] <kvarley> dm8tbr: IME? Sorry I'm a noob.
  • [13:05:56] <av500> dm8tbr: they all dont morse kernel boot logs
  • [13:06:02] <dm8tbr> av500: correct
  • [13:06:20] <Samwan> http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/adb.html
  • [13:06:24] <Samwan> this does not help?
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  • [13:06:37] <av500> not for boot logs
  • [13:06:42] <Samwan> you could save the /dev/log/main output to SDCard
  • [13:06:46] <Samwan> oh okay
  • [13:07:07] <av500> or just ssh and type dmesg
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  • [13:10:57] <kvarley> Can only see an app for doing it from the mic
  • [13:10:59] <kvarley> Not via camera
  • [13:11:33] <stuk_gen> hi all :) i'm try dsp pn bbXm, i set mem=99M@0x80000000 mem=384M@0x88000000 in uenv.txt but when i run /usr/share/ti/ti-dmai-apps# ./loadmodules.sh i receive error message 'Warning! You need to use mem=126M or less on the kernel cmdline' why?
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  • [13:12:01] <stuk_gen> :/usr/share/ti/ti-dsplink-examples*
  • [13:13:27] <kvarley> av500: dmesg shows the default command line arguments. I'll wait for serial and then see if I can find out what's going on
  • [13:13:31] <av500> stuk_gen: because that is an error in that script
  • [13:13:39] <av500> remove the warning
  • [13:13:53] <stuk_gen> av500: ooh so its correct?
  • [13:13:57] <av500> that script was written for 128MB boards
  • [13:14:06] <av500> and fails on 256 or 512MB ones
  • [13:14:09] <stuk_gen> av500: ok
  • [13:14:20] <av500> did we not talk about that already?
  • [13:14:51] <stuk_gen> not with me
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  • [13:15:12] <stuk_gen> maybe you are refer to the pvrInit.sh script
  • [13:15:18] <stuk_gen> the last conversion with me :)
  • [13:15:36] <av500> ah yes, not you
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  • [13:17:12] <XorA> gruddam linux desktop crappiness
  • [13:17:47] <av500> whoa, it's roger to be blamed: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=openembedded.git;a=commitdiff_plain;h=c0ee8e8641a46803fd83c7689c476789415f7dde
  • [13:17:50] <av500> koen: ^^^^^^^^^
  • [13:17:58] <av500> and you signed it off!
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  • [13:18:53] <CanyonMan> df
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  • [13:19:08] * SilicaGel Do Not Eat
  • [13:19:18] <XorA> why is it X has been handling windows since the 60s/70s sometime, but in the 2000s we decided to chuck it all out and use some crappy compositing which cant handle windows
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  • [13:20:04] <SilicaGel> In 1984, Bob Scheifler and Jim Gettys set out the early principles of X
  • [13:20:23] <koen> big brother
  • [13:20:44] <av500> all the basic X stuff was done by DaVinci, Gallileo and Newton already!
  • [13:20:45] <icota> koen: can you share ./fb-test console output?
  • [13:21:02] <kvarley> Which file is responsible for passing command line arguments? Is that the uImage?
  • [13:21:05] <SilicaGel> did tesla help?
  • [13:21:05] <kvarley> Or the MLO?
  • [13:21:06] <SilicaGel> BZZT!
  • [13:21:15] <av500> kvarley: uimage is the kernel
  • [13:21:23] <av500> uboot is the boot loader
  • [13:21:31] <av500> MLO is a pain
  • [13:22:01] <SilicaGel> huh, apparently a fair amount of the code in the original version of X came from W
  • [13:22:04] * SilicaGel did not know this
  • [13:22:21] <kvarley> av500: So it goes MLO ---> uBoot ---> uImage ?
  • [13:22:21] <av500> it all goes back to A
  • [13:22:31] <av500> kvarley: yes
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  • [13:22:38] <kvarley> av500: Ok ty
  • [13:22:51] <SilicaGel> kvarley: it's kind of like that picture where in the first frame it's a fish and later it's a caveman and finally it's homo sapien
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  • [13:23:35] <SilicaGel> from 1984 until 1986 we went from X1 to X10
  • [13:23:39] <kvarley> So is there any way on a hex level I can tell if the uBoot supports boot.scr and what it expects the file to be called?
  • [13:23:42] <SilicaGel> but we've been stuck at X11 since 1987
  • [13:24:22] <av500> kvarley: if it supports boot.scr, then the file is called boot.scr
  • [13:24:31] <av500> never uboots also support Uenv.txt
  • [13:24:36] <av500> called "Uenv.txt"
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  • [13:25:02] <kvarley> av500: Any common reasons why a boot.scr won't work? (Which I can try before getting serial)
  • [13:25:52] <SilicaGel> av500 ~= s/never/newer/
  • [13:26:13] <av500> composite output is composite: http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/raspberry-pi-works-with-a-30-year-old-mini-crt-display-20120410/
  • [13:26:46] <koen> root@beaglebone:~# ./fbtest --console
  • [13:26:46] <koen> opening /dev/fb0
  • [13:26:46] <koen> res 320,240 virtual 320,480, line_len 640
  • [13:26:47] <koen> dim -1,-1
  • [13:27:50] <icota> thanks, that's what i get as well
  • [13:28:05] <icota> can you tell me the i2c stuff as well? just to check
  • [13:28:19] <icota> all i get is a bunch of white pixels
  • [13:29:18] <mru> woot, business class upgrade
  • [13:29:35] <koen> icota: uenvcmd=i2c mw 0x24 0x07 0x09 ; i2c mw 0x24 0x08 0x55
  • [13:29:40] <koen> icota: I put that in uenv.txt
  • [13:29:49] <mru> sitting in front of the curtain is so much better
  • [13:31:28] <kvarley> Does "setenv stdout usbtty" set serial output on the OTG USB port or the standard USB ports on the board?
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  • [13:40:32] <SilicaGel> ICQ, the resilient David Hasselhoff of instant messaging, is updating its app for Android and iOS <--- holy crap, ICQ still exists!
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  • [13:58:01] <kvarley> Would it be possible to set the serial output to display over dvi?
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  • [13:58:38] <koen> denix: ping
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  • [14:11:50] <markus_> hi, since a few weeks I am trying the following on a BBxM: capture an image from a LI-5M03 board (mt9p031 sensor) and show it on a dvi monitor. The resolution has to be at least XGA @ 25fps with a minimal delay. Has someone ever done that? The maximum I can get is VGA @ 15fps with using mplayer
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  • [14:16:38] <dm8tbr> hmm isn't mplayer quite slow due to having to write to fb
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  • [14:23:52] <koen> dm8tbr: that's why you have it write to the overlays :)
  • [14:24:03] <markus_> i also think this could be a problem. my idea was to write directly from the camera isp to the fb but i don't really know how to do that
  • [14:24:51] <koen> -vo omapfb or -vo v4l2
  • [14:25:02] <dm8tbr> koen: yes, that's what I meant. wasn't there even a patch for mplayer? ah,yes that one :)
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  • [14:28:35] <markus_> thx i will try that
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  • [14:36:54] <markus_> much better now with -vo omapfb! thanks a lot
  • [14:42:17] <dm8tbr> :)
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  • [14:43:43] <denix> koen: pong
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  • [14:47:25] <koen> denix: do you want me to squash those cloud9 commits, or can they go in as is? Noone else responded to them
  • [14:53:54] <_av500_> people moved on to cloudX
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  • [15:03:40] <denix> koen: if nobody cares, just push them
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  • [15:06:23] <denix> I mean patches, not people :)
  • [15:07:26] <koen> :)
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  • [15:58:11] <rory> Can anybody point me in the right direction on how to install mysql on angstrom to work with lighttpd & php?
  • [15:58:47] <mranostay> google?
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  • [15:59:06] <_av500_> opkg install
  • [15:59:19] <_av500_> unless koend broke that too
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  • [16:04:02] <mdp> all my links are broken to the codez
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  • [16:14:52] <mranostay> mdp: blame koen
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  • [16:27:52] <emeb> blame Canada
  • [16:29:24] <_av500_> rccanadad stop
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  • [16:38:18] <mranostay> emeb: you mean the US state called Canada? :)
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  • [16:51:06] <koen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VuUFERPBHg
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  • [16:51:35] <prpplague> koen: greetings
  • [16:51:41] <koen> hey prpplague
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  • [17:38:10] <kkeller> adafruit taking a shot at BBone??? Arduino compatible that fits into a mint can...http://www.makershed.com/Mintronics_MENTA_p/mkad43.htm?utm_content=Maker%20Shed%20Apr%2010%202012%20CID_308af13f7df5a62e909cdd29d9eb4fac&Click=107311&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Maker%20Shed%20Apr%2010%202012&utm_source=Email%20Campaign&utm_term=Menta
  • [17:43:12] <Crofton> you mean: http://www.makershed.com/Mintronics_MENTA_p/mkad43.htm?utm_content=Maker%20Shed%20Apr%2010%202012%20CID_308af13f7df5a62e909cdd29d9eb4fac&Click=107311&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Maker%20Shed%20Apr%2010%202012&utm_source=Email%20Campaign&utm_term=Menta
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  • [17:54:19] <Russ> WOW, an 8 bit MCU that fits in an altoid can?!?!
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  • [17:55:34] <mranostay> kkeller: ahem tinyurl :)
  • [17:56:08] <kkeller> thought about hat after I pasted??? Sorry about that chief
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  • [17:57:40] <mranostay> kkeller: just a chance to troll my old boss :P
  • [17:57:56] <kkeller> :P
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  • [18:05:52] <koen> kkeller: the altoid format for the bone was done specifically for adafruit
  • [18:06:04] <koen> original design was bone shaped
  • [18:06:21] <kkeller> wow??? never knew that
  • [18:06:33] <kkeller> And bone shaped?
  • [18:09:06] <koen> kkeller: like this: http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image_additional&pID=699&pic=1&products_image_large_additional=images/large/ID699bone_LRG.jpg
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  • [18:10:46] <kkeller> sure glad they decided to go the other form factor??? not sure I would use one shaped like that
  • [18:11:11] <mycle_vername> does anyone know how to get the angstrom linux headers for the beaglebone?
  • [18:12:18] <mranostay> mycle_vername: opkg install ?
  • [18:12:40] <mycle_vername> mranostay: what package should i install?
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  • [18:17:35] <mycle_vername> does anyone know what to make of this: http://pastebin.com/Y97Ua4hc
  • [18:19:28] <prpplague> mycle_vername: there are enough letters there i could make a dozen haikus
  • [18:19:55] <mycle_vername> prpplague: what do you mean?
  • [18:20:32] <koen> if anyone wants an image with xbmc preinstalled: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beaglebone/Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-GNOME-eglibc-ipk-v2012.04-core-beaglebone-2012.04.09.img.xz (400MiB)
  • [18:20:42] <prpplague> mru: i think i have been hanging around with you and av500 too much
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  • [18:21:13] <koen> prpplague: or too little
  • [18:21:33] <prpplague> koen: indeed
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  • [18:24:01] <speceba> is there a command i can enter from the u-boot prompt to toggle leds/gpio on beagleboard?
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  • [18:25:12] <mru> I like koen's theory
  • [18:25:56] <panto> koen, hmm, pretty cool
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  • [18:44:22] <djlewis> gm
  • [18:46:26] <mru> mg
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  • [18:47:04] <djlewis> no, i am not a spirtual entity, but thanks /)
  • [18:47:06] <emeb> kg
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  • [18:48:18] <djlewis> emeb: about 80.7394 to be close
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  • [18:49:15] <emeb> 71.6 here
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  • [18:50:27] * djlewis is using my first pair of glasses since 24 years ago.
  • [18:50:41] <djlewis> tested and ordered new pair today $300. ARGH!
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  • [18:51:11] <jay6981> bet they don't last 24 years
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  • [18:51:29] <djlewis> i bet i dont last 24 more years
  • [18:51:54] <jay6981> haha... they're trying to make people live forever
  • [18:52:10] <djlewis> i would be 83
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  • [18:57:16] <jediator> Has anyone got any experience with running ubuntu on BeagleBoard, xM, and Bone?
  • [18:57:30] <XorA> yes, it works
  • [18:57:32] <jediator> Any recommendations on which image to use?
  • [18:57:53] <XorA> I stole one off some wiki and fiddled with it
  • [18:58:06] <XorA> but it was so long ago I cant remember which wiki
  • [18:58:16] <XorA> it was basically a debootstrap though
  • [18:59:13] <jediator> Did you go with Robert Nelson's demo image or the canonical one?
  • [18:59:58] <XorA> it might have been RCNs
  • [19:00:06] <XorA> name rings a bell
  • [19:00:30] <jediator> Thanks XorA! I will try the RCN one...
  • [19:00:31] <XorA> I found though once you had anything with apt working, you can get the rest yourself
  • [19:00:49] <jediator> apt stand for?
  • [19:00:54] <XorA> this was before Canonical/Linaro actually produced anything useful
  • [19:01:01] <XorA> apt is the package manger
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  • [19:01:59] <jediator> I see...
  • [19:06:56] <djlewis> and it is nice too that rcn-ee supports his work :)
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  • [19:41:07] <isaacbw> do yocto builds targeted at the beagleboard work on the beaglebone without issue?
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  • [19:41:53] <XorA> youd be much better with Angstrom builds
  • [19:42:02] <XorA> I dont think Yocto uses meta-ti
  • [19:42:06] <XorA> so misses features
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  • [19:46:47] <denix> yocto "supports" beagleboard, but not beaglebone
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  • [20:07:47] <isaacbw> hmm
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  • [20:08:49] <djlewis> ds2: change your name ;)
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  • [20:15:38] <isaacbw> is the angstrom online builder what people tend to use?
  • [20:16:01] <isaacbw> it looks pretty slick
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  • [20:19:12] <isaacbw> when I mount the beaglebone as a drive is it showing me the contents of the microSD card or is it doing something else?
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  • [20:30:45] <nkh> hello guys
  • [20:31:05] <nkh> I'm running samples of c6run on BBxM
  • [20:31:45] <nkh> running examples/c6runapp/emqbit/bench_dsp
  • [20:32:03] <nkh> gives longer times than the arm one ...
  • [20:32:17] <nkh> I also tested a fft program in c
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  • [20:32:30] <nkh> the arm one is faster again!
  • [20:33:14] <nkh> shouldn't a fft calculation be faster on dsp ?
  • [20:34:04] <mru> depends
  • [20:34:19] <Mojito> There might be overhead in getting data into and out of the DSP, for instance
  • [20:34:20] <nkh> mru: on code?
  • [20:34:30] <mru> on a lot of things
  • [20:35:11] <nkh> hmm, and how should I optimize these to use maximum power of the DSP?
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  • [20:35:31] <nkh> is there any article on these parameters or so ?
  • [20:35:43] <nkh> I use dsplink on angstrom
  • [20:37:01] <nkh> any one has a sample code which runs faster on the DSP? :D
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  • [20:40:41] <Mojito> It all depends on what the DSP istruction set is. One designed to do video decoding is not necessarily going to be good at FFT operations
  • [20:40:48] <_av500_> nkh: read the c6 compiler documentation
  • [20:41:04] <_av500_> the ti toolchain can give a ton of feedback on the code generated
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  • [20:41:18] <mru> the c6x dsp can certainly do a fixed-point fft pretty well
  • [20:41:18] <_av500_> like how many instruction it could schedule for double issue etc
  • [20:41:28] <mru> _av500_: generated?
  • [20:41:30] <_av500_> just recompiling arm code wont cut it
  • [20:41:37] <mru> you don't generate code, you must *write* it
  • [20:41:48] <_av500_> asm it generated
  • [20:42:00] <_av500_> you can hint the compiler with stuff like loop iterations etc
  • [20:42:11] <mru> if you want it fast, you'd better write the asm yourself
  • [20:42:16] <_av500_> or that
  • [20:42:55] <_av500_> nkh: and the secret of the dsp is not that it is faster than the arm
  • [20:43:01] <_av500_> but that it is at the same time :)
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  • [20:43:10] <nkh> _av500_: mru: Thanks ! I remmembered the document of ti about c6run on optimizing compiler which I didn't read
  • [20:43:18] <_av500_> well done
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  • [20:44:12] <nkh> _av500_: yea, I meant that about the fft it shoudl be well like mru said
  • [20:44:26] <_av500_> well yes
  • [20:44:37] <_av500_> but I guess fft is a well used example even for TI dsp code
  • [20:44:45] <_av500_> there might be even a library
  • [20:45:02] <mru> which might even use a fast algorithm
  • [20:45:04] <mru> if you're really lucky
  • [20:45:58] <aholler> the arm-code, if written in c, depends a lot on compiler options to. so it doesn't make sense to say the c-fft is faster without sepcifying all used options
  • [20:46:19] <_av500_> we like to generalize
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  • [20:46:40] <nkh> actually there is another sample fft program in examples which is not good, too. I can't say anything untill I read the documents ...
  • [20:46:43] <_av500_> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/17
  • [20:47:16] <nkh> aholler: hmm
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  • [20:48:09] <aholler> I currently learn how to use digi-scope ;)
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  • [20:48:37] <_av500_> aholler: check if the AC is really 50Hz
  • [20:48:38] <nkh> aholler: disconnected from freenode, sorry
  • [20:48:49] <nkh> (01:17:14 AM) _av500_: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/17
  • [20:48:51] <nkh> (01:17:47 AM) nkh: aholler: hmm
  • [20:48:57] <nkh> last thing I saw ...
  • [20:49:01] <_av500_> well
  • [20:49:13] <_av500_> you missed like all the fun
  • [20:49:14] <prpplague> koen: any recomendations on someone that has time to get lvds-mini support in for angstrom panda?
  • [20:49:20] <prpplague> koen: and beagle
  • [20:49:27] <nkh> _av500_: :D
  • [20:49:35] <_av500_> prpplague: like write 10 lines of code?
  • [20:50:02] <prpplague> _av500_: hehe, i have the kernel code, just need someone to get it into OE builds
  • [20:50:06] <_av500_> or does it need to have a systemd module?
  • [20:50:14] <_av500_> and be configured over d-bus?
  • [20:50:21] <prpplague> _av500_: hehe, just bb recipe
  • [20:50:22] <_av500_> usinbg python?
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  • [20:52:33] <nkh> ok So no One had more advice on helpimg me to reach the point that I run a fft on dsp , faster than on Arm ? :D
  • [20:52:52] <nkh> there was one: reading TI doc on c6run
  • [20:52:57] <nkh> next?
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  • [21:01:47] <_av500_> well, read it
  • [21:02:01] <_av500_> and as I said, it does not need to be faster
  • [21:02:24] <_av500_> as long as it frees the arm to do other stuff
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  • [22:29:39] <mycle_vername> hi
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  • [22:30:52] <djlewis> low
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  • [22:41:02] <mru> z
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  • [22:42:53] <mranostay> mru: WAKE UP!
  • [22:45:44] <djlewis> he's just having an impeded moment ;)
  • [22:46:20] <mru> mranostay: sure, if you supply the pullup coffee
  • [22:47:04] <TheAlphaNerd> anyone here have experience with openwrt?
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  • [22:47:59] <mranostay> yeah
  • [22:48:13] <djlewis> only on tuesdays
  • [22:49:18] <TheAlphaNerd> IT IS TUESDAY
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  • [22:49:25] <TheAlphaNerd> I want to learn how to do custom dns routing with it
  • [22:49:30] <djlewis> oh, I menat mondays
  • [22:49:32] <djlewis> :)
  • [22:49:45] <TheAlphaNerd> I could swing by the lab
  • [22:49:47] <TheAlphaNerd> if anyone is around
  • [22:49:48] <TheAlphaNerd> :D
  • [22:49:52] <mranostay> what lab?
  • [22:49:56] <TheAlphaNerd> oops
  • [22:49:59] <TheAlphaNerd> wrong chan
  • [22:50:00] <TheAlphaNerd> LOL
  • [22:50:01] <TheAlphaNerd> sigh
  • [22:50:24] <mru> put a tail on him, he'll take us straight to the secret lab
  • [22:51:32] <djlewis> i'll drop cracker crumps
  • [22:51:37] <djlewis> crumbs
  • [22:52:08] <mranostay> tickle it out of him
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  • [23:03:15] <TE52> HI, I have a problem with QMAKE2 when trying to install a toolchain, can anyone help me ??
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  • [23:08:11] <mranostay> nope
  • [23:08:54] <mycle_vername> hey guys, for some reason the kernel-headers package (along with about 15000 others) is gone after a opkg update. any clue why?
  • [23:10:11] <ka6sox> mranostay, ++
  • [23:11:30] <mranostay> ++?
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  • [23:14:29] <djlewis> its the money
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