• [00:00:06] <mru> you can always unsolder the usb socket and wire it some more packaging-friendly way
  • [00:00:46] <mru> solder a cable directly to the pcb
  • [00:05:43] <angs> when I run the the program with ./ command, angstrom stores the files on sysfs right? it means that when bealgebone boots, the program is erased. how can I make the program permanently work on the angstrom?
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  • [00:11:44] <mru> uh?
  • [00:14:56] <angs> for example after a C file is compalied then made executable.
  • [00:15:40] <angs> I want that executable file to be working all the time, no mater if the bone is restarted
  • [00:15:41] <angs> or not
  • [00:15:51] <mru> store it on the sd card?
  • [00:16:03] <mru> which I'd be surprised if it's not already happening
  • [00:16:32] <angs> under what directory should I copy the files?
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  • [00:16:51] <mru> wherever you want them to be
  • [00:17:08] <mru> this is not a mac, you can arrange your system any way you see fit
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  • [00:18:04] <angs> when the bone is booted, how will I make the program to be executed?
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  • [00:21:00] <mranostay> oh boys
  • [00:21:34] <mranostay> angs: what is 26 + 26?
  • [00:24:59] <angs> 54?
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  • [00:32:22] <mranostay> heh
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  • [00:34:11] <angs> although I dont know why it is 54 :)
  • [00:37:14] <angs> has any of you use connman package on beaglebone?
  • [00:37:40] <angs> used
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  • [02:53:37] <mdp> mranostay, how is your st7735fb testing?
  • [02:55:13] <mdp> bah, I'll check tomorrow :)
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  • [02:58:32] * mranostay notes mdp to he does have a day job :)
  • [02:59:12] <prpplague> mranostay: can you really consider being a clown a "day job" ?
  • [03:00:22] <mranostay> heh touche prpplague touche :)
  • [03:01:05] * prpplague slaps mdp with a yocto thumb drive
  • [03:02:18] <mranostay> heh
  • [03:03:52] <koen> sweet jesus
  • [03:04:04] <koen> linus just mentioned me on g+
  • [03:04:18] <koen> saying that I'm wrong, of course
  • [03:04:39] * mranostay leaches onto koen's fame
  • [03:05:00] <jay6981> you want to be famous for being wrong too?
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  • [03:05:57] <mranostay> sure why not
  • [03:06:05] <mranostay> koen: which post?
  • [03:08:23] <koen> https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/Ao2T3oiSyH7
  • [03:08:24] <prpplague> koen: holy cow
  • [03:09:33] * koen ate half a cow today
  • [03:09:49] * prpplague bows to the all might koen
  • [03:10:07] <prpplague> ula'koen ula'koen ula'kown
  • [03:11:21] <mranostay> koen: i think you apply for citizenship here now :P
  • [03:11:23] <jay6981> how is a beaglebone with multiple expansion boards different than a PC with expansion slots?
  • [03:12:30] <prpplague> koen: wow wow wow
  • [03:13:25] <koen> jay6981: yes, the PCI cards are discoverable
  • [03:13:45] <koen> jay6981: on the beaglebone we can only hint at the devices present with the eeprom
  • [03:14:05] * prpplague debates a response
  • [03:15:12] <prpplague> koen: sorry my response will have to wait until tomorrow other than a +1
  • [03:15:23] <prpplague> by then linus is sure to have lost interest
  • [03:15:38] <prpplague> koen: i am soooo impressed!!!
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  • [03:17:41] <mranostay> hmmm still weirdness on my st7735fb
  • [03:19:45] <Russ> don't worry, u-boot is small and relatively simple
  • [03:20:43] <mranostay> Russ: -ESARCASM?
  • [03:21:03] <Russ> ya
  • [03:21:18] <Russ> also I worry that one day, DT will grow to be as complex as C, and then what was the point
  • [03:21:47] <Russ> I'm actually aware of a military program in which they eliminated programming, and instead specified everything in XML
  • [03:21:47] <jay6981> so what is the proper alternative to DT?
  • [03:21:51] <prpplague> i so want to reply on this, but i'll have to wait until tmorrow
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  • [03:21:57] <prpplague> jay6981: there is none
  • [03:22:05] <prpplague> jay6981: but.......
  • [03:22:11] <jay6981> so why all the bashing?
  • [03:22:21] <Russ> their XML became turing complete, and was a programming language, just not called that
  • [03:22:29] <prpplague> jay6981: the attitude has always been, do accept crap into kernel for the sake of a half ass fix
  • [03:22:58] <jay6981> right, so where's the full fix?
  • [03:23:12] <Russ> spend the extra few cents and make the hardware discoverable
  • [03:23:17] <prpplague> jay6981: the problem is that the whole ARM issue is due to the mantra of the high end folks of "push to mainline"
  • [03:23:35] <jay6981> Russ: right, or accept that you have to have a specialized loader
  • [03:24:01] <prpplague> jay6981: we would not be in this position if the core maintainers hadn't been pushing for every joe smoe developer to push their arm platform to mainline
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  • [03:24:07] <Russ> I think I'm on-board with the whole DT, but the further into things I get, the more "now wait a minute" moments I have
  • [03:24:13] <jay6981> there's always trade offs for low cost embedded projects
  • [03:24:26] <koen> Russ: same here
  • [03:24:52] <prpplague> Russ: exactly
  • [03:24:59] <jay6981> is it going to be like ACPI?
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  • [03:25:13] <jay6981> bytecode interpreters in the os?
  • [03:25:31] <koen> dt is similar to that
  • [03:25:54] <jay6981> linus was against acpi iirc
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  • [03:26:02] <koen> but on beaglebone the bootloader would need to generate the acpi table for every combination of capes
  • [03:26:42] <jay6981> so essentially when new capes ship, they must come with new loaders
  • [03:26:49] <koen> with the current state of bootloaders, dt and kernel I'd need to have a copy of every possible DT on the sd card
  • [03:26:51] <prpplague> koen: hehe you see my share of your ce post?
  • [03:26:59] <koen> prpplague: yes, thanks for that
  • [03:27:10] <prpplague> koen: wasn't too pissy?
  • [03:27:14] <koen> no
  • [03:28:38] <koen> I'm still trying to find a way to say "incompetent jerks" in a non offensive manner
  • [03:28:58] <prpplague> koen: hehe
  • [03:29:16] <prpplague> s/incompetent/inexperienced
  • [03:29:23] <koen> same difference
  • [03:37:08] <mranostay> koen: not really
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  • [04:04:13] <prpplague> koen: HA
  • [04:04:24] <prpplague> koen: apparently someone is watching my posts......
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  • [04:35:18] <jay6981> looks like all the utica kids got bored with their bones already
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  • [06:11:53] <_av500_> jo
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  • [06:13:03] <sundar> av500: i always find you active :) you aren't a bot? are you
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  • [06:22:15] <XMPPwocky> so, my OS draws a distinction
  • [06:22:35] <XMPPwocky> between a task and a process
  • [06:23:33] <XMPPwocky> a process is a task with a specific set of page tables
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  • [06:25:21] <XMPPwocky> scheduling, etc works on the level of tasks
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  • [06:34:02] <sundar> Linux? Yes scheduler schedules threads not just processes
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  • [06:54:34] <_av500_> sundar: i am, but i trained hard and passed the turing test
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  • [06:56:23] <sundar> _av500_: interesting, are you running on a bb?
  • [06:57:14] <dm8tbr> on a beowulf-cluster of BB, BBxm, PB, PBes, BBone
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  • [06:57:26] <_av500_> atm, i am running late
  • [06:57:33] <sundar> lol
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  • [07:08:50] <RITRedbeard> how hard is it to interface beaglebone to LVDS panel?
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  • [07:36:05] <qwig> building arm cross compiler over i486 ...help needed
  • [07:36:38] <qwig> everywhere i find source for i686 what to do?
  • [07:37:10] <qwig> ..?
  • [07:37:46] <LetoThe2nd> hm?
  • [07:38:23] <LetoThe2nd> whats the problem? you want to build a crosscompiler on a host running a i486 userland (presumably ancient debian)?
  • [07:38:39] <qwig> yes..
  • [07:38:50] * LetoThe2nd basically does not see any issues.
  • [07:39:11] <LetoThe2nd> use a sane buildsystem, done.
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  • [07:39:39] <LetoThe2nd> openembedded and ptxdist are relatively well known to produce good cross toolchains.
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  • [07:41:59] <qwig> LetoThe2nd:can you suggest me a web site which clearly shows me the whole process
  • [07:43:19] <LetoThe2nd> qwig: for ptxdist, its http://ptxdist.org/software/ptxdist/appnotes_en.html and specifically http://ptxdist.org/software/ptxdist/appnotes/AppNote_BuildingToolchain.pdf
  • [07:43:35] <LetoThe2nd> qwig: for angstrom, respectively OE its http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
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  • [08:39:16] <_tasslehoff_> koen: I'm on oe-classic with a console-image, but want to test the ogre samples. Any tip on the easiest/best way to give ogre the X11 environment it needs?
  • [08:39:38] <_tasslehoff_> pull in stuff from angstrom-x-image.bb?
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  • [09:37:04] <av500> "Please give us your FTP site, our FAE tried several times to send you the patches, but it failed due to big size. "
  • [09:37:11] <av500> /o\
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  • [09:42:08] <adj> few months ago I got a source code package of less than 100 kB in size delivered to me in Russian way
  • [09:42:35] <av500> as a virus payload?
  • [09:42:37] <adj> what I got was four 1 gigabyte .rar files which contained win 2k3 server with all the necessary development tools for the system
  • [09:42:43] <av500> ah
  • [09:43:27] <adj> a whole vmware virtual machine instead of just those few source code files...
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  • [09:47:43] <av500> mdp: you made history: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/112
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  • [09:50:33] <dm8tbr> av500: mhrhrh
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  • [10:06:37] <mdp> av500, lol
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  • [12:57:18] <jsabeaudry> Is it possible to install BONE_DRV.exe on a non-english system?
  • [12:57:36] <jsabeaudry> It says the language is not supported by the wizard and quits
  • [12:57:48] <mru> do yourself a favour and install a real OS
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  • [12:59:38] <av500> jsabeaudry: that has been answered on the mailing list
  • [13:00:46] <jsabeaudry> av500, great, thanks!
  • [13:01:28] <jsabeaudry> mru, it's not for me :)
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  • [13:07:51] <Martron> mru: lol
  • [13:08:53] <Martron> mru: Who says he dosen't 'wine BONE_DRV.exe'
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  • [14:28:26] <av500> jumping on the NFC bandwagon?
  • [14:28:50] <mru> what is nfc supposed to be good for?
  • [14:29:12] <mru> other than stealing people's bank details
  • [14:30:22] <icota> i like the nokia, bluetooth-pairing-over-nfc thing
  • [14:30:25] <SilicaGel> You know, the original title of War and Peace was "War: what is it good for"
  • [14:31:25] <av500> gee, now adding BT into the shitmix
  • [14:31:33] <mdp> av500, always customer driven...
  • [14:31:52] <av500> mdp: drive them off the premises
  • [14:31:56] <av500> pesky customers
  • [14:32:06] <mdp> the code written from these analog groups is pretty awful
  • [14:33:00] <mdp> reminds me of the old day when everybody was porting their psos/vxworks code to linux
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  • [14:33:10] <av500> pos code?
  • [14:33:16] * av500 has seen that a lot
  • [14:33:20] <mdp> pos
  • [14:33:27] <mdp> pos and nfc go well together
  • [14:33:43] <mdp> on many levels
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  • [15:10:24] <zard> hi all
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  • [15:11:44] <LetoThe2nd> zard: please stop spamming.
  • [15:11:59] <zard> sorry
  • [15:12:37] <zard> are you fan of diuna ??
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  • [17:23:20] <mdp> http://tinyurl.com/6pxq3c2
  • [17:23:55] <mranostay> haha
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  • [17:26:44] <Crofton|work> koen, there is a type on http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=BeagleBone#Regulatory_Compliance_Documentations
  • [17:26:53] <Crofton|work> Ehternet unable to obtain a lease[A4 Only]
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  • [17:27:45] <koen> I'll try to fix that after breakfast
  • [17:28:03] <Crofton|work> I'm not sure if I could create an account and fix it
  • [17:28:07] <Crofton|work> I sort of hope not
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  • [17:28:10] <Crofton|work> :)
  • [17:28:22] <koen> not anymore
  • [17:28:22] <mru> koen: breakfast? it's well into beer o'clock here
  • [17:28:28] <Crofton|work> the docs posted for the bone seem like they are the FCC ones
  • [17:28:31] <koen> mru: 10am over here
  • [17:28:53] <mru> you have half dst?
  • [17:28:55] <koen> Crofton|work: CE is just an extra page in the fcc report
  • [17:29:09] <koen> Crofton|work: same test, 2 reports, more $$$$$
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  • [17:29:16] <Crofton|work> ah
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  • [17:29:23] <Crofton|work> I admit to skimming
  • [17:29:26] <mranostay> Crofton|work: you typo'ed typo :)
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  • [17:29:39] <mru> a meta-typo
  • [17:29:53] <Crofton|work> me and typing are not getting along
  • [17:29:59] <keithzz> Hi, I just followed a tutorial and installed ansgtrom on my SD card with a boot partition. How can I tell if my baord is booting from the SD card?
  • [17:30:08] <keithzz> Im running on beagle-xm
  • [17:30:14] <mru> Crofton|work's keyboard should train him better
  • [17:30:21] * mranostay makes soldering task for the weekend
  • [17:30:36] <mru> keithzz: if it boots at all, it's doing it from the sd card
  • [17:30:47] <mranostay> then again i don't recall if i have a A3 or A4
  • [17:31:04] <mru> no sticker?
  • [17:31:30] <keithzz> mru: thank you, why are you saying this? shoudlnt' there be a uboot in the nand on beagle board already installed?
  • [17:31:42] <mdp> mranostay, I'm driving down to do some caving/hiking tomorrow for a few days???I doubt I'll get a test branch up for those other two variants until after I return
  • [17:31:46] <koen> no nand on xm
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  • [17:31:52] <mranostay> mru: i'm sure there is.
  • [17:31:54] <Crofton|work> caving is dangerous
  • [17:32:04] <Crofton|work> and there are no caves to speak of in Arizona
  • [17:32:05] <mranostay> mdp: i'm sure i can handle getting it setup now :)
  • [17:32:07] <mdp> mranostay, depending on my level of distractions before beer:30 arrives I might push something
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  • [17:32:19] <mranostay> don't drink and git push ? :)
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  • [17:32:51] <mdp> mranostay, beer:30 + gathering outdoors gear may cause me to forget something :)
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  • [17:33:21] <Tartarus> Crofton|work: http://azstateparks.com/parks/kaca/ doesn't count?
  • [17:33:26] <mdp> Crofton|work: well, there's the dead one..been there when I lived there???collosal cave
  • [17:33:41] <keithzz> Thank you, another question please, when I boot, its says: reading uEnv.txt and then Unable to read uEnv.txt from mmc...What is this?
  • [17:33:48] <mdp> Crofton|work: I'm going to real ones???carter caves in KY
  • [17:34:31] <mranostay> mru: just that the board is about 15 miles^H^H^H^H^H^H 25 kilometers away atm
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  • [17:34:59] <Crofton|work> I have been to Carter Caves park for a wedding
  • [17:35:06] <Crofton|work> We stuck our heads in one
  • [17:35:14] <mru> mranostay: then how are you going to solder it?
  • [17:35:23] <mranostay> by magic
  • [17:35:24] <mdp> cool, I guess there's some fancy resort as well..we are camping
  • [17:35:24] <mru> got one of those extra-long tips?
  • [17:35:33] <Crofton|work> there are big caves 30 minutes from my house
  • [17:35:34] <mranostay> that is what she said!
  • [17:35:36] <Tartarus> mru: mranostay is a jedi
  • [17:35:50] <Crofton|work> that sounds familiar
  • [17:35:53] <Tartarus> keithzz: uEnv.txt is a file that may reside on the SD card
  • [17:35:59] <Tartarus> and set variables that will be read
  • [17:36:02] <Tartarus> so you can modify boot args
  • [17:36:13] <Crofton|work> Tartarus, have you bught your monkey mask yet?
  • [17:36:15] <Tartarus> or make another command be run (by setting uenvcmd=what you want)
  • [17:36:15] <mranostay> Tartarus: so how goes the DT and uboot? :)
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  • [17:36:19] <mdp> mranostay, so does your display module have any marking or "tabs" as they call it besides the silk screening?
  • [17:36:48] <mranostay> heh wtf do they mean by tabs?
  • [17:36:51] <mdp> mranostay, don't taunt the trained monkey
  • [17:36:53] <mranostay> along the screen?
  • [17:36:54] <mdp> nfc
  • [17:37:21] <mdp> I'm going to ask limor
  • [17:37:32] * Tartarus throws feces at mranostay
  • [17:37:35] <mdp> she wrote the damn comment
  • [17:38:55] <mranostay> not cool
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  • [17:39:03] <mdp> mranostay, in any case, I started adding the alternative display build support..it's not that hard to try the other two :)
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  • [17:40:02] <keithzz> Thank you all, one other question please bare with me, im connected to bb using minicom, if I want to start gnome GUI, without connecting a HDMI cable to a screen, can this be done through rs232?
  • [17:40:39] <mranostay> er why?
  • [17:41:50] <Crofton|work> it would be amusing for u-boot contributors to start wearing monkey masks at Linux events
  • [17:41:59] <mdp> mranostay, I think limor simply buys whatever the display of the month is from alibaba.com to put on those breakout boards :)
  • [17:41:59] <mranostay> it should be required
  • [17:42:54] <mranostay> excluding people with Tested-by lines of course
  • [17:42:54] <mdp> Crofton|work, is linus on the panel gregkh is chairing?
  • [17:43:10] <Crofton|work> not sure
  • [17:43:10] <mdp> Crofton|work: that's the ideal time for somebody in the mask to ask a question
  • [17:43:29] <mdp> "can you elaborate of your comparison of ..."
  • [17:43:44] <mdp> I think I would cancel vacation to be at that
  • [17:44:40] <mranostay> heh
  • [17:44:49] <mranostay> Tartarus: you coming to LC Summit?
  • [17:44:53] <Tartarus> nope
  • [17:45:10] <mdp> certainly not now..after being insulted
  • [17:45:24] <Tartarus> pushing for http://2012.rmll.info/en
  • [17:45:26] <Crofton|work> I do not think being a monkey is bad
  • [17:45:44] <Tartarus> We'll see if there's budget for me to goto LPC after that, maybe Russ will have to go :)
  • [17:46:15] <mdp> Tartarus, I won't be using any of that budget at least..all my vacations fall on those events.
  • [17:46:40] <mdp> just saving those requests for one big barcelona request
  • [17:46:46] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [17:46:50] <Crofton|work> I was going to mention that
  • [17:47:18] <Tartarus> yeah
  • [17:47:22] <Tartarus> ELC-E is bad for me
  • [17:47:24] <Tartarus> but this one is not
  • [17:47:27] <mdp> I could submit a session to make fun of this ti vendor driver for that one
  • [17:47:37] <mranostay> heh
  • [17:47:43] <mranostay> edma?
  • [17:47:53] <mdp> no???the nfc driver
  • [17:47:55] <mdp> aptly named
  • [17:48:05] <mranostay> heh nfc driver?
  • [17:48:20] <mranostay> this like the SHT project? :)
  • [17:48:33] <mdp> nfc consortium has a sense of humor
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  • [17:49:52] <mdp> SHT project was priceless..especially since it was a DoD/NSA program???but it got caught early enough to change it cause the engineers were pronouncing it in front of program managers and they got scared
  • [17:50:30] <mdp> mranostay, otoh, jkridner is an oak???never wavered on preserving the "Beaglebone" name despite some 'concerns' :)
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  • [17:51:01] <mranostay> mdp: what crude sexual references? :)
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  • [18:05:50] <keithzz> I have a fresh ansgtom image running on the beagleboard-xm and I would like to go on internet. I connected my router through ethernet to bb-xm and then what should i do? I can't ping google now
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  • [18:06:30] <mranostay> ping harder?
  • [18:06:45] <mranostay> what does ifconfig -a say?
  • [18:06:48] <keithzz> :)
  • [18:06:52] <mranostay> pastebin pls
  • [18:07:53] <keithzz> mranostay, Idon't have internet access from devellopment pc im using thus I can't paste or go on intenet
  • [18:08:04] <keithzz> is there anything specific you are looking for?
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  • [18:08:19] <keithzz> I can see lo and usb0
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  • [18:17:11] <keithzz> mranostay: here you go: http://pastebin.com/d09P5mWW
  • [18:17:35] <angs> I am trying to follow the instruction here to assign a static IP with connman http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/
  • [18:17:43] <angs> but opkg install connman-tests doesnot work
  • [18:17:55] <angs> it can not find any package called opkg connman
  • [18:18:23] <angs> there are some connman packages http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/network/connman/
  • [18:18:39] <angs> which extension file do I need to download?
  • [18:18:54] <angs> and after that what is the command to install it?
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  • [18:19:25] <angs> there is no pik file and there are some many directories in the xz files
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  • [18:19:47] <angs> I would appreciate any suggestions
  • [18:19:48] <W1N9Zr0> did you do opkg update first?
  • [18:19:55] <keithzz> I have a fresh ansgtom image running on the beagleboard-xm and I would like to go on internet. I connected my router through ethernet to bb-xm and then what should i do? I can't ping google now
  • [18:19:55] <angs> yeah
  • [18:20:26] <keithzz> the output of ifconfig -a is here : http://pastebin.com/d09P5mWW
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  • [18:22:34] <keithzz> To summerrize, I have a fresh ansgtom image running on bb-xm. I can't ping google now, the output of ifconfig -a is here : http://pastebin.com/d09P5mWW
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  • [18:23:07] <angs> sorry I got disconnected
  • [18:23:29] <jay6981> keithzz: you have no IP address so it's not surprising it doesn't work
  • [18:24:13] <angs> I wrote opkg update then opkg install connman-tests and I get the following error Unknown package 'connman-tests'.
  • [18:24:35] <keithzz> jay6981, how can I assign an ip address shouldn't that be automatic?
  • [18:25:04] <angs> assign a static IP :)
  • [18:25:09] <jay6981> it can be automatic if you have a dhcp server
  • [18:25:18] <W1N9Zr0> angs - were there any errors when you did opkg update?
  • [18:25:26] <jay6981> and your system is condfigured to start a dhcp client
  • [18:25:33] <angs> no
  • [18:25:33] <angs> I had no error
  • [18:25:59] <keithzz> mm, ok, do you of a tutorial that will teach me how to install a dhcp server and run it?
  • [18:26:10] <jay6981> no but google does I'm sure
  • [18:26:41] <angs> I get the following outputs http://pastebin.com/RCavSKRK
  • [18:26:48] * _av500_ thinks conman is a con artist
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  • [18:27:26] <prpplague> _av500_: funny how the bootloader verses kernel debate seems to re-surface every few years
  • [18:27:39] <angs> do I misspeal something? I copy the code from here http://www.gigamegablog.com/2012/02/06/beaglebone-linux-101-assigning-a-static-ip-address-with-connman/
  • [18:27:43] <_av500_> prpplague: and i am angry
  • [18:27:47] <angs> how this guy made it work
  • [18:27:59] <_av500_> prpplague: i tried to troll linus and nishant has to jump in frotn of him
  • [18:28:05] <prpplague> _av500_: hehe
  • [18:28:13] <W1N9Zr0> angs - your opkg update is not outputing progress, so something is broken
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  • [18:28:26] <prpplague> _av500_: i was going to reply to linus last night as well, but i had had a few beers so i decided to wait, hehe
  • [18:28:28] <_av500_> prpplague: so its monkey feces to TI dallas....
  • [18:28:32] <W1N9Zr0> the opkg install command also shows an error within okpg
  • [18:28:42] <prpplague> _av500_: hehe
  • [18:28:59] <angs> and how come it doesnt work on my bone :(
  • [18:28:59] <angs> W1N9Zr0: do you have any idea what could be wrong?
  • [18:29:29] <angs> I did opkg update opkg upgrade
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  • [18:29:33] <W1N9Zr0> i have no idea how to fix opkg, so the only thing i can suggest is to re-image your sd card
  • [18:30:40] <angs> I used win32diskimager since my VMware and Vbox did not see SD card when the SD card inserted
  • [18:30:44] <W1N9Zr0> http://pastebin.com/hN6a4HDA this is what opkg update should output (this is beagleboard-xm though, not bone, but you get the idea)
  • [18:31:28] <angs> hmmm
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  • [18:32:27] <angs> do you have linux on ur host pc or did u use vmware to load the image?
  • [18:32:50] <W1N9Zr0> vmware ubuntu
  • [18:33:18] <angs> how did u connect SD card to the ubuntu? usb adapter?
  • [18:33:52] <angs> or microSD adapter?
  • [18:33:52] <W1N9Zr0> i have a transcend usb N-in-1 adapter, yeah
  • [18:34:09] <W1N9Zr0> my dell monitor sd card reader does not like micro sd cards
  • [18:34:41] <W1N9Zr0> or adapters, not sure, either way the microsd-usb adapter works
  • [18:34:45] <prpplague> _av500_: i am surprised i didn't get more negative comments on my CE post
  • [18:35:01] <_av500_> which one?
  • [18:35:34] <angs> W1N9Zr0: thank you, I will try to load the image again
  • [18:35:50] <prpplague> _av500_: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101339419642360856354/posts/9toD7UztxFP
  • [18:37:42] <keithzz> How can I install dhcp server on bb-xm?
  • [18:38:59] <koen> why would you need a dhcp server on the xm?
  • [18:39:21] <mru> to serve dhcp requests with it?
  • [18:39:33] <keithzz> I was just told that to go on intenet from ethernet
  • [18:40:05] <keithzz> ok , Im connecting xm to my router and I get no intenet access because I have no IP or anything setup, how can i do so?
  • [18:40:16] <mru> then you want a dhcp client
  • [18:40:34] <keithzz> mru, how do I get that?
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  • [18:46:13] <SilicaGel> i found my evil twin on google plus, i'm a little scared.
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  • [18:50:27] <_av500_> is he that evil?
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  • [18:51:23] <koen> I found my non-evil twin on g+
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  • [18:51:44] <koen> time to grow that evil twin soulpatch thingy
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  • [18:54:31] <_av500_> koen: who is that other kooi?
  • [18:55:23] <SilicaGel> if he's non-evil, I think that means you're the evil one
  • [18:57:20] <Crofton|work> what do you guys think: http://www.halloweenexpress.com/chimp-mask-p-4330.html
  • [18:59:35] <koen> _av500_: johan? that's my dad
  • [19:00:12] <ds2> koen: free at last, free at last? :)
  • [19:02:28] * koen is in downtown sf now
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  • [19:08:12] <keithzz> Guys. does anyone know how to setup my xm to connect through ethernet port?
  • [19:10:09] <LetoThe2nd> johan++ :-)
  • [19:10:46] * LetoThe2nd likes johan. johan made strange christmas gnome give me waffle.
  • [19:21:42] <mranostay> keithzz: nope nobody
  • [19:21:47] <mranostay> it is unpossible
  • [19:22:05] <djlewis> not yet invented
  • [19:23:02] <keithzz> :) Im trying to figure out how to install dhcp client like you mentioned previously, i just couldn't find a tutorial anywhere
  • [19:23:22] <djlewis> keithzz: but there is thie really neat site, beagleboard.org with a Getting Started section that might help. . .
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  • [19:23:53] <djlewis> keithzz: how does your PC get its ip number?
  • [19:23:59] <djlewis> static or dynamic?
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  • [19:24:22] <keithzz> my pc gets its ip dynamically
  • [19:24:39] <keithzz> and I would like to use tthe same router to connect my xm to internet
  • [19:24:40] <djlewis> then so should the BB if plugged into the same switch
  • [19:24:47] <keithzz> YES!
  • [19:24:55] <keithzz> but when i plug the xm to the same router
  • [19:24:58] <keithzz> nothing happens
  • [19:25:11] <djlewis> its configuration. try the link above yet?
  • [19:25:14] <keithzz> http://pastebin.com/d09P5mWW here is the output
  • [19:25:21] <keithzz> of ifconfig -a
  • [19:26:41] <djlewis> dmesg | tail after plugging the eth cable in?
  • [19:26:47] <keithzz> 1 sec
  • [19:27:28] <keithzz> usb0 link up
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  • [19:27:43] <keithzz> addrconf(netdev_change): usb0: link becomes ready
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  • [19:31:50] <keithzz> djlewis, I also checked the link above, unfortunately that wasn't helpful
  • [19:32:39] <stippeng> keithzz: maybe usb0 is set to a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces
  • [19:34:58] <keithzz> stippen http://pastebin.com/d09P5mWW here is the output of ifconfig -a
  • [19:35:14] <keithzz> shouldn't the static ip be there
  • [19:35:15] <keithzz> ?
  • [19:37:59] <stippeng> ah, yes, didn't think of that. I guess it would be there
  • [19:39:27] <keithzz> stppeng, people here mentioned i need a dhcp client
  • [19:39:53] <keithzz> wouldn't you know how to do that?
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  • [19:44:42] <hiwaeng> hello, one simple question:
  • [19:44:52] <TE52> Hello!! Can anyone help me for connecting the AptinaCamera on the BeagleBoard??
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  • [19:45:08] <koen> udhcpc -i usb0
  • [19:45:13] <koen> does that get you an IP?
  • [19:45:51] <hiwaeng> can I use this command to read from 2 sensors "different addresses" put on the same bus of beagleboard: (ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, addr) < 0)
  • [19:46:58] <mranostay> hiwaeng: er?
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  • [19:47:19] <TE52> Can anyone help me with the AptinaCamera MOdule for BEagleBoardXM ??
  • [19:47:59] <mranostay> say pretty please
  • [19:48:05] <mranostay> and be less vague
  • [19:48:16] <hiwaeng> @ <mranostay> : What you mean by er?
  • [19:48:26] <LetoThe2nd> mranostay: pp? like purple plague? ;)
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  • [19:49:51] <hiwaeng> since there is a procedure tells how to communicate I2C in beagleboard: see http://elinux.org/Interfacing_with_I2C_Devices
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  • [19:51:14] <hiwaeng> anyone got any idea?
  • [19:52:13] <mranostay> hiwaeng: er do two calls?
  • [19:53:00] <mdp> mranostay, well, internal 'consulting' completely killed my day..oh well
  • [19:53:09] <hiwaeng> <mranostay>: but how? since I want to read from both sensors
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  • [19:53:41] <mranostay> hiwaeng: read from one then read from the other
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  • [19:55:10] <hiwaeng> <mranostay>: but both sensors have the same register address and values, since they are both from the same manufacturer... but i can have 2 address for each
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  • [19:56:27] <LetoThe2nd> having 2 devices on the bus with the same adress won't work...
  • [19:56:41] <LetoThe2nd> make one have address a, the other address b
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  • [19:57:03] <mdp> mranostay, make a patch this weekend..I sent limor an issue request about how to even visually identify the different breakout boards..hopefully she can shed some light on the madness
  • [19:58:23] <hiwaeng> <LetoThe2nd> I have one of them with address 0x68 and the other 0x69.. but internally they have the same register addresses.. so when I read an address , how can I know from which sensor I am reading
  • [20:00:02] <W1N9Zr0> the ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE sets which address you're talking to
  • [20:00:34] <LetoThe2nd> well if you read from an adress, you know what you are reading from.
  • [20:00:51] <mranostay> exactly
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  • [20:03:20] <hiwaeng> let me explain more: I have a register for reading acceleration of X axis, so how I know from which sensor this value comes from ?
  • [20:04:37] <LetoThe2nd> hiwaeng: well if you have two sensors with two addresses but you do not know which hardware sensor corresponds, ask your hardware guys.
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  • [20:08:05] <hiwaeng> <LetoThe2nd>: I have 2 sensors with addresses (0x68 and 0x69) on bus 3 of beagleboard... and I want to communicate with these 2 sensors I mean reading and writing to their registers, with 1 sensor I could do it easily , but with 2 I don't know how to synchronize and differentiate values coming from sensors
  • [20:08:49] * LetoThe2nd is totally unable to see the point.
  • [20:09:06] <LetoThe2nd> its a bus. you talk to one after the other. thats the way it works.
  • [20:09:43] <W1N9Zr0> hiwaeng - sensor1: ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, 0x68) read(...), sensor2: ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, 0x69) read(...)
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  • [20:10:45] <W1N9Zr0> I2C_SLAVE sets the DEVICE address you want to talk to, then read/write will access the registers on that device
  • [20:11:31] <hiwaeng> but should I close and then open the bus between reading or it is not needed?
  • [20:12:19] <hiwaeng> I mean : sensor1: ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, 0x68) read(...) the close the bus , and then sensor1: ioctl(file, I2C_SLAVE, 0x69) read(...)
  • [20:13:14] <djlewis> keithzz: did you see koen's answer?
  • [20:13:28] <hiwaeng> I meant between 2 readings "address 1 and address 2" the bus is not closed
  • [20:13:30] <hiwaeng> ??
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  • [20:17:44] <W1N9Zr0> i don't think you need to close it, but you could try either way
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  • [20:27:44] <mdp> no
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  • [20:36:09] <greenlantern> trying to install usb wifi dongle getting this message when trying to install
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  • [20:36:59] <greenlantern> make: *** /lib/modules/3.2.0-psp4/build: no such file or directory
  • [20:37:02] <greenlantern> anyone help?
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  • [20:38:24] <greenlantern519> trying to install usb wifi edimax
  • [20:38:29] <greenlantern519> getting this message on make
  • [20:38:31] <greenlantern519> make: *** /lib/modules/3.2.0-psp4/build: no such file or directory
  • [20:38:35] <greenlantern519> anyone help please?
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  • [20:43:34] <greenlantern519> helpp
  • [20:43:52] <saliak> I've heard ubuntu's arm distribution has issues with the network hardware on the beaglebone. has that been resolved by rev A5? maybe more specifically, has anyone installed the ARM image of ubuntu onto an unmodified a5 rev and had i work w/out issue?
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  • [20:51:51] <greenlantern> i have an image of ubuntu running now
  • [20:51:59] <greenlantern> i am connected to the network through ethernet
  • [20:52:04] <greenlantern> but still cannot get my usb working
  • [20:52:26] <greenlantern> http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2012/03/21/ubuntu-on-the-beaglebone-with-userland-spi/
  • [20:52:28] <greenlantern> that image
  • [20:53:00] <greenlantern> needed to Modify /etc/network/interfaces
  • [20:53:14] <greenlantern> and add auto eth1
  • [20:53:23] <greenlantern> iface eth1 inet dhcp
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  • [20:53:46] <greenlantern> everything else cept my usb wifi seems to work though
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  • [20:59:29] <saliak> cool
  • [20:59:39] <saliak> your usb doesn't work at all?
  • [20:59:43] <saliak> or just for wifi?
  • [20:59:51] <greenlantern> usb wifi
  • [20:59:56] <greenlantern> usb is working fine
  • [21:00:01] <saliak> ok
  • [21:00:18] <saliak> i've seen a lot of talk about that, is it a generally unsolved problem?
  • [21:00:28] <greenlantern> it seems to all be working fine, got some timeout thing popping up all the time but it tells you how to get rid of it
  • [21:00:33] <greenlantern> just changing some file to 0
  • [21:00:35] <greenlantern> dead easy
  • [21:01:01] <greenlantern> is what an unsolved problem, usb wifi dongles?
  • [21:01:18] <saliak> yeah, the wifi dongle
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  • [21:02:10] <saliak> we had some issues with a4 and the ethernet. required popping a resistor off the board
  • [21:02:28] <greenlantern> yeah not got my usb wifi up and running yet
  • [21:02:31] <greenlantern> fine with ethernet
  • [21:02:48] <greenlantern> i wanna get network through usb but not figured out how to do the ICS yet
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  • [21:09:38] <_av500_> close the bus, we are leaving town
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  • [21:10:46] <mdp> I gots no change! can I get a ride?
  • [21:11:46] <mranostay> mdp: go on vacation!
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  • [21:11:55] * kkeller seconds that
  • [21:12:15] <kkeller> mdp - look at watch??? beer + 12 minutes
  • [21:12:36] <mdp> I had no chilled homebrew!
  • [21:12:45] <mdp> totally forgot???I blame the SO
  • [21:13:11] <mdp> I wish I had a flash chiller like the hip beer store has
  • [21:13:41] <jay6981> you can make a flash chiller with a cooler, cold water, ice, and salt
  • [21:13:43] <mdp> mranostay, I'm still hacking on the driver :)
  • [21:13:57] <mdp> jay6981: guess what it's in now? :)
  • [21:14:03] <jay6981> :)
  • [21:14:13] <mdp> I've had this problem before
  • [21:14:15] <jay6981> supercooled water ftw
  • [21:14:42] <mdp> it start at 22F above serving temp in the cool corner of my basement where I store it
  • [21:14:50] <mdp> just about there now
  • [21:15:16] <muriani> I wanna start homebrewing
  • [21:15:25] <muriani> as soon as this new job kicks in, I think I'm gonna
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  • [21:15:48] <mdp> muriani: the only thing better???is comining it with a beaglebone to monitor everything
  • [21:15:57] <mdp> that's worth 15 minutes on hackaday
  • [21:16:05] <mdp> s/comining/combining/
  • [21:16:33] <mranostay> mdp: or a thermostat :)
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  • [21:25:14] <mdp> a very expensive learning thermostat? :)
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  • [21:31:16] <_av500_> mdp: that patented by the ex-apple guys
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  • [21:53:44] <muriani> mdp: dude. That's an idea.
  • [21:53:52] <muriani> although I dunno if I'd use a beaglebone.
  • [21:53:58] <muriani> Seems overkill.
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  • [21:54:52] <djlewis> a couple of analog and digi's and you are good to go
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  • [22:05:08] <zippy> hi there, I'm having a problem building cloud9-image for the beaglebone
  • [22:05:32] <zippy> bitbake goes for a long time, chugging along, and then bombs on ...
  • [22:05:54] <zippy> systemd_git.bb
  • [22:06:06] <zippy> complaining about a missing libacl
  • [22:06:18] <zippy> this is on ubuntu 11.10 32 bit
  • [22:07:14] <zippy> I was wondering if anyone has a workaround or debug tips for me
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  • [22:16:01] <mdp> muriani: it's about doing it in style???beaglebone let's you do it in javascript..for extra points you go cadillac with an RPi
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  • [22:16:53] <mdp> cause you need a process monitoring display with a 3D UI
  • [22:17:21] <SilicaGelly> :-O
  • [22:17:23] <ds2> and you get to avoid deal with SGX issues on the Phi
  • [22:17:24] <ds2> pi
  • [22:17:31] <mdp> right
  • [22:19:20] <ds2> I wonder when are they going to take that processor and slap it in a watch
  • [22:19:39] <mdp> quite frankly, a beerstation cape is needed
  • [22:19:50] <mdp> koen's weatherstation cape is just too boring
  • [22:20:03] <mdp> ds2, LOL
  • [22:20:09] * SilicaGelly coughs
  • [22:20:10] <SilicaGelly> hello?
  • [22:20:11] <SilicaGelly> DeathCape?
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  • [22:20:20] <mdp> ez3359-chronos!
  • [22:20:29] <ds2> mdp: there is a watch with a samsung arm... one with a fs arm... and an omap watch... let's see that pi go into a watch
  • [22:20:50] <mdp> they'll one up everybody
  • [22:20:58] <mdp> it'll be an rpi rfid tag
  • [22:21:06] <mdp> most kick-ass rfid tag....ever
  • [22:21:20] <mdp> extra cowbell
  • [22:21:20] <ds2> chronos is primative compared to the full android omap watch
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  • [22:21:58] <mdp> please, don't say omap around am parts???they hate each other
  • [22:22:07] <_av500_> ds2: just wait for the ubuntu watch
  • [22:22:09] <ds2> this watch is really an omap part
  • [22:22:11] <ds2> :)
  • [22:22:26] <mdp> denix will have a gentoo watch
  • [22:22:59] <_av500_> emerge time
  • [22:23:01] <mdp> ds2, still, don't make AM feel bad
  • [22:23:08] <mdp> hehe
  • [22:23:10] <ds2> hehe
  • [22:23:23] <ds2> "ti arm processor watch" :)
  • [22:23:31] <mdp> thank you
  • [22:23:48] <mdp> AM has a complex???always smaller and slower than his older sibling
  • [22:23:52] <denix> +1 for the gentoo watch :)
  • [22:23:56] <mdp> always tortured and left in the shadows
  • [22:23:58] <mranostay> how long would emerge take on a beaglebone? :)
  • [22:24:02] <mdp> poor little AM
  • [22:24:03] <denix> but why not OE watch? it's embedded...
  • [22:24:07] <_av500_> watch from scratch watch
  • [22:24:20] <mdp> poky watch?
  • [22:24:28] <mdp> "this thing is running slow!!!"
  • [22:24:31] <mdp> bahaha
  • [22:24:32] <denix> did you mean pocket watch?
  • [22:24:40] <_av500_> starterwaratch
  • [22:24:55] <_av500_> u-watch-it-boot
  • [22:25:37] <denix> ok, I give up, I'm out of my league against _av500_ here :) :)
  • [22:25:39] <koen> mdp: I talked with the lpw ti guys at ESC and thomas has a design for a 802.15.4 cape ready + sensors
  • [22:25:52] <koen> mdp: he wants to do 6lowpan and use the bone as the collector node
  • [22:25:55] <denix> oh, zigbeeee, nice
  • [22:26:11] <SilicaGelly> is it really cheap?
  • [22:26:12] <koen> denix: not zigbee, 6lowpan :)
  • [22:26:14] <_av500_> zigbee is dead, there is BLE(h) now
  • [22:26:14] <mdp> and yet???all will be eclipsed by the watch on the 8-bit micro with linux???running gentoo
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  • [22:26:25] <ds2> koen: 2530?
  • [22:26:27] <mdp> koen, rockin'
  • [22:26:32] <_av500_> mdp: linux on the HP calculator watch
  • [22:26:34] <koen> ds2: not sure
  • [22:26:36] <SilicaGelly> koen: I'd like to learn more about that. I have no idea who ESC is. Or Thomas. Unless he's that tank.
  • [22:26:50] <koen> ds2: if we go with the radio + msp we can do zigbee legally
  • [22:26:51] <_av500_> ESC is button on your kbd
  • [22:26:52] <SilicaGelly> and I do not care for this backup nickname any longer.
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  • [22:27:00] <mdp> Edward SillyCapes
  • [22:27:08] <denix> koen: if you have 802.15.4 radio, who prevents you from doing zigbee?
  • [22:27:13] <koen> SilicaGell: emebdded system sonference, nowadays called design west
  • [22:27:19] <ds2> koen: really? didn't think the MSP kits are certified
  • [22:27:21] <SilicaGell> denix: the zigbee alliance.
  • [22:27:29] <denix> boo :)
  • [22:27:35] <SilicaGell> you can do whatever you want on non for profit
  • [22:27:45] <mdp> SilicaGel: check again
  • [22:27:47] <denix> we can claim RPi did it :)
  • [22:27:48] <ds2> or you mean that other A company's version of it that is certified?
  • [22:27:51] <koen> denix: http://freaklabs.org/index.php/Blog/Zigbee/Zigbee-Linux-and-the-GPL.html
  • [22:27:51] <SilicaGell> but the specs have a license associated wth them that says if you're not doing hobbyist type crap you have to join at at east the minimum level of $3500/yr
  • [22:28:08] <SilicaGell> mdp: that
  • [22:28:23] <_av500_> koen: so, use ZPL
  • [22:28:34] <ds2> Oh that aspect, thought you mean FCC
  • [22:28:39] <_av500_> zigbee proprietary license
  • [22:29:19] <mdp> koen, the problem with ti guys (I can't believe I'm saying this) is that those groups can't requisition a clue about supporting linux properly
  • [22:29:56] <_av500_> linux is just a passing fad
  • [22:30:01] <SilicaGell> what's really sad is that I can buy an XBee ZB module and I can use it in transparent mode or using one of their built in profiles and that's fine
  • [22:30:07] <SilicaGell> or I can make up my own damned profile and that's fine
  • [22:30:21] <SilicaGell> but if I try to use one of the published profiles, I can't make/sell a product using it.
  • [22:30:22] <mdp> but that's not zigbee :)
  • [22:30:27] <SilicaGell> hm i guess
  • [22:30:28] <SilicaGell> maybre
  • [22:30:32] <mdp> no guessing
  • [22:30:33] <denix> mdpzee?
  • [22:30:34] <mdp> yes
  • [22:30:34] <ds2> just use Simplicti ;)
  • [22:30:34] <SilicaGell> what's not zigbee
  • [22:30:40] <SilicaGell> if i make up my own profile ?
  • [22:30:40] <ds2> *ducks*
  • [22:30:47] <_av500_> all the cool people are going BLE anyway
  • [22:31:29] <mdp> unfortunately, the real reason we all would like to have zigbee is just because of the soon-to-be installed base of the power profile stuff
  • [22:31:41] <SilicaGell> i just want cheap remotes
  • [22:31:44] <mdp> in practice it may be locked down anyway
  • [22:31:50] <_av500_> yep
  • [22:31:51] <mdp> SilicaGel: then you have no use for zigbee
  • [22:31:54] <SilicaGell> and I don't want to have to dick around with some stupid friggin 6LoWPAN attached microkernel
  • [22:32:09] <mranostay> speaking of zigbee did anyone get that intel board from Yocto Day yet?
  • [22:32:20] <SilicaGell> I have a design now that's nearly finished for a 2 channel current meter for AC
  • [22:32:26] <SilicaGell> it's tiny and it uses an xbee zb pro module
  • [22:32:35] <mdp> there's foss for 802.15.4 that works right now for all these simple cases and isn't 6LoWPAN
  • [22:32:45] <mdp> simpliciti is one..there's are derivatives
  • [22:32:53] <SilicaGell> If I wanted to make a 6LoWPAN version of that my choices are very very limited as far as I have seen
  • [22:33:02] <mdp> anyway, this is getting dangerously toward work talk and I'm past that
  • [22:33:02] <SilicaGell> finding something that'll run on a $3 microcontroller? BZZZZT.
  • [22:33:28] <ds2> hahaahahah
  • [22:33:30] <SilicaGell> Use Nanostack, they say! Great! But then I have to use Contiki? No thanks!
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  • [22:34:37] <SilicaGell> Oh but there's another one you can use! Yes! Then you're stuck with TinyOS! Great!
  • [22:34:45] <SilicaGell> >:(
  • [22:35:11] <SilicaGell> If I seem cranky, it's because a moth just flew up my nose.
  • [22:35:40] <koen> mdp: thomas agreed that zap-hlos should get killed with fire
  • [22:36:06] <SilicaGell> The sad thing is I actually *like* zigbee. If it weren't for this stupid licensing issue I'd definitey use it.
  • [22:36:07] <koen> mdp: that's why I mentioned the msp attached, so we can just not care about that
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  • [22:36:30] <SilicaGell> I love those little xbee contraptions with the built in user microcontroller. It's a neat idea and it's relatively cheap
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  • [22:38:04] <ds2> koen: thought the CC2530 does most of the stack by itself?
  • [22:38:15] <koen> ds2: it should
  • [22:38:23] <koen> iirc that has the msp inside
  • [22:38:35] <koen> you cna optionally bypass that
  • [22:38:38] <ds2> ohhh
  • [22:38:45] <ds2> the eval board as a msp outside
  • [22:39:21] <ds2> oh... in this case... that seems almost braindead to use
  • [22:40:10] <koen> it's been a while since I messed with them
  • [22:40:19] <koen> I needed to get zap-hlos working
  • [22:40:28] <_av500_> zappos?
  • [22:40:29] <koen> which is a port of the msp firmware to linux userspace
  • [22:41:24] <koen> _av500_: the 'hlos' bit should give you an idea of what it does
  • [22:41:30] <koen> _av500_: and why it's a bad idea :)
  • [22:41:40] <SilicaGell> http://www.autofrog.com/~chrisp/Projects/Electronics/powermon.png
  • [22:41:45] <djlewis> isnt zappos the cigarette lighter that shocks ya?
  • [22:41:52] <SilicaGell> does anybody want to see my 2 channel zigbee power monitor ? That's it. The board isn't routed yet, just placed.
  • [22:42:01] <_av500_> djlewis: its the shoe company that shocks your wallet
  • [22:42:24] <djlewis> my wallet is fried from all the shocking
  • [22:42:38] <_av500_> koen: I am used to MM_TI_OSAL, so HLOS_ is progress :)
  • [22:43:21] <_av500_> djlewis: stop buying high heels then
  • [22:43:50] <koen> _av500_: old dsplink has hlos
  • [22:43:59] <koen> _av500_: combined with hal
  • [22:44:12] <_av500_> sorry koen, im afraid I cant do that
  • [22:44:25] * SilicaGell removes _av500_'s power
  • [22:44:56] <_av500_> take my power, take my mips, but leave me my arm
  • [22:45:12] <koen> it just means high level operating system
  • [22:45:20] <_av500_> i know
  • [22:45:21] <koen> but it's one of those red flags :)
  • [22:45:30] <_av500_> well, better than llos
  • [22:45:37] <_av500_> or mlos
  • [22:45:47] <_av500_> or DTos
  • [22:46:33] <_av500_> ok, time to turn back into a pumpkin, its past midnight
  • [22:47:56] <prpplague> _av500_: is _that_ what you turn into?
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  • [23:01:41] <Russ> SilicaGel, wus
  • [23:01:57] <Russ> http://imgur.com/Nct9Y,BwNt5#0 http://imgur.com/Nct9Y,BwNt5#1
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  • [23:12:11] <OrlandoT> I have finished doing a MACHINE=beaglebone ./oebb.sh config beaglebone MACHINE=beaglebone ./oebb.sh update MACHINE=beaglebone ./oebb.sh bitbake systemd-image
  • [23:12:43] <OrlandoT> how can I now go ahead and edit the kernel source code for the beaglebone platform?
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  • [23:14:36] <W1N9Zr0> build/tmp*/work/beagle*/linux*
  • [23:15:04] <OrlandoT> I ask because I went to look for board-am335xevm.c in ~/setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x-eglibc/sysroots/beaglebone/kernel/arch/arm/mach-omap2 and cannot find it there anymore. I can only see .h files in there
  • [23:15:43] <OrlandoT> W1N9Zr0: hmm... let me check
  • [23:17:15] <mrcan> where can i get its latest relaese of u-boot source. downloaded latest denx.de u-boot but in its directory, there is no available beaglebone's latest mux settings (needed it for dvi cape mux settings)
  • [23:18:30] <OrlandoT> W1N9Zr0: Ok I am in ~/setup-scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x-eglibc/work/beaglebone-angstrom-linux-gnueabi
  • [23:18:34] <OrlandoT> then which dir?
  • [23:19:43] <OrlandoT> I am looking through all the dirs in there and I do not see any board-am335xevm.c in there. or have they changed things?
  • [23:20:38] <W1N9Zr0> linux*/git/arch/arm/mach-omap2
  • [23:21:38] <OrlandoT> interesting... there is nothing inside my linux*/git folder
  • [23:22:11] <OrlandoT> how come? I was able to build the kernel and system image just fine. Heck even the bootloader was built
  • [23:22:12] <zippy> has anyone hit a "libacl not found" error when trying to build cloud9-image?
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  • [23:27:12] <OrlandoT> W1N9Zr0: what can I do for the source to appear in that directory?
  • [23:27:39] <W1N9Zr0> when i built for beagleboard it shows up there, maybe it's in a different directory for bone
  • [23:27:48] <W1N9Zr0> did you try searching for your file in beaglebone-angstrom-linux-gnueabi?
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  • [23:28:28] <OrlandoT> yeah, I grep for it but could not find it anywhere
  • [23:28:59] <OrlandoT> I did a find . | grep 'board-am335xevm' from ~/setup-scripts
  • [23:31:13] <W1N9Zr0> can you find board-omap3beagle.c ? it should be in the same directory
  • [23:31:18] <OrlandoT> the only thing that search found was
  • [23:31:22] <OrlandoT> ./build/tmp-angstrom_2010_x-eglibc/sysroots/beaglebone/kernel/arch/arm/mach-omap2/include/mach/board-am335xevm.h
  • [23:31:34] <OrlandoT> ok let me search for that
  • [23:32:57] <OrlandoT> nope could not find board-omap3beagle.c either
  • [23:33:28] <OrlandoT> only found stuff like 0006-board-omap3beagle-prepare-for-DM3730-based-Beagleboa.patch
  • [23:33:31] <OrlandoT> patches
  • [23:33:39] <W1N9Zr0> oh
  • [23:33:45] <W1N9Zr0> did you disable cleanup in your local conf?
  • [23:33:51] <OrlandoT> nope
  • [23:34:12] <W1N9Zr0> disable it and bitbake virtual/kernel
  • [23:34:27] <OrlandoT> somebody told me to do that last time but then we could not find the files anyway so I removed it
  • [23:34:36] <OrlandoT> ok
  • [23:34:44] <OrlandoT> how do I disable it again?
  • [23:35:00] <W1N9Zr0> edit conf/local
  • [23:35:29] <W1N9Zr0> comment out INHERIT += "rm_work"
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  • [23:36:00] <OrlandoT> ok done
  • [23:36:21] <OrlandoT> I'll do bitbake virtual/kernel now
  • [23:37:32] <OrlandoT> I'm going to do this instead
  • [23:37:34] <OrlandoT> MACHINE=beaglebone ./oebb.sh bitbake virtual/kernel
  • [23:37:40] <OrlandoT> should be equivalent
  • [23:40:53] <W1N9Zr0> i see board-am3517evm.c in the kernel tree, are you sure you want board-am351xevm.c and not that? that might be why you couldn't find it before
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  • [23:44:26] <mrcan> where can i get its latest relaese of u-boot source. downloaded latest denx.de u-boot but in its directory, there is no available beaglebone's latest mux settings (needed it for dvi cape mux settings)
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  • [23:46:16] * russell-- just tried building a beaglebone cloud9-image and MLO is still hosed somehow, wtf?
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  • [23:50:41] <OrlandoT> W1N9Zr0: Sorry I meant board-am335xevm.c but i have searched for that too and could not find it either
  • [23:51:18] <OrlandoT> my git directory was empty anyway and the other directory I told you about (sysroots/beaglebone/kernel/arch/arm/mach-omap2) only has .h files
  • [23:51:52] <OrlandoT> W1N9Zr0: NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 990 tasks of which 990 didn't need to be rerun and all succeeded.
  • [23:51:55] <OrlandoT> :-(
  • [23:52:40] <mrcan> 0rlandoT: could you check pls boards/ti/am335x directory
  • [23:53:40] <OrlandoT> mrcan: in which directory? give me more of the path
  • [23:54:31] <OrlandoT> W1N9Zr0: I am sensing a bitbake virtual/kernel -c clean coming up :-(
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  • [23:55:21] <Q8GEEK> how can i boot win7 compact in my beagleboard-mx?
  • [23:55:45] <mrcan> i'm sorry not remember. i think in the uboot's root directory /boards/ti/am335x/mux.h
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  • [23:57:06] <OrlandoT> mrcan I do not currently have any folders with the name am335x
  • [23:58:01] <mrcan> one moment i will look at my desktop
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