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[00:02:21] <alan_o> Does anyone here have a recommendation for a beagle-like OEM board to use in a commercial product (since the beagle website says not to use a beagle for such tasks)?
[00:03:08] <alan_o> I've talked to the people at embeddedarm.com (Technologic systems). They seem to offer a good level of support/docs.
[00:03:37] <alan_o> Anyone have experience with that particular company or have another to recommend/suggest?
[00:03:48] <djlewis> is the gumstix oem capable?
[00:05:21] <alan_o> I'll check. I met a guy from Special Computing at a conference, and he had terrible things to say about the gumstix line.
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[00:05:40] <alan_o> Special Comp sells beagle stuff, so he's biased somewhat I guess
[00:06:09] <djlewis> Maybe, I have not heard negative other than the slightly higher price and modular style.
[00:06:22] <djlewis> but the modular syle can be a plus
[00:06:24] <alan_o> they are somewhat higher, that is true
[00:06:45] <alan_o> The stuff from Technologic is a generation behind cpu-wise.
[00:06:50] <alan_o> which is ok for me, really
[00:07:05] <djlewis> i'm a generation behind
[00:07:45] <alan_o> Yeah, I'm not pushing video or anything.
[00:07:51] <alan_o> Hey, while I've got you here......
[00:07:58] <alan_o> What's the deal with the Rev C xM
[00:08:00] <alan_o> ?
[00:08:12] <alan_o> out of the box, the regulators are all screwed up
[00:08:36] <alan_o> the SD card that comes with it fails to power up the USB and the ethernet.
[00:08:48] <alan_o> I had to put a new kernel and new u-boot on it.
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[00:09:54] <djlewis> well, the sd is just to bring it up and do a couple of tests
[00:09:59] <djlewis> regulators?
[00:10:00] <alan_o> Gumstix website talks about quantity orders. I assume that means oem-able.
[00:10:05] <alan_o> yeah, the power regulators
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[00:10:12] <alan_o> I'm not an expert
[00:10:12] <alan_o> but
[00:10:19] <djlewis> can you be more descriptive?
[00:10:52] <alan_o> I had a rev-B board here before, and to get the .39-rc kernel to run on it, I had to apply a patch about regulators. It seems like there's some GPIO connected to basically some power switches
[00:11:04] <alan_o> the kernel has to turn them on at boot up
[00:11:20] <djlewis> how were you powering the board?
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[00:11:57] <djlewis> the XM
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[00:12:11] <alan_o> these regulators seem to power the USB hub, all the USB ports (of course, since they're connected to the hub), and the Ethernet port (which is on the USB bus)
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[00:12:18] <alan_o> So I'm powering from a 5v supply
[00:12:26] <djlewis> 2 amps or so?
[00:12:29] <alan_o> plenty of current
[00:12:33] <alan_o> can't remember
[00:12:48] <alan_o> something like that
[00:12:50] <alan_o> maybe 1.5
[00:12:59] <djlewis> well there is a PM kernel out there that allows beagles to run on less power
[00:13:01] <alan_o> I bought a 3A, but haven't unboxed it yet
[00:13:27] <djlewis> use your DVM to be sure it is between 4.75 to 5.25V
[00:13:42] <alan_o> It's the right amount of power. It's not a power issue
[00:13:48] <alan_o> I mean the right voltage
[00:14:04] <alan_o> the kernel has to turn on the regulators, or else they don't come on.
[00:14:07] <alan_o> the patch fixed it
[00:14:13] <alan_o> and it's in .39
[00:14:15] <alan_o> but
[00:14:17] <djlewis> It is not a regulator issue
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[00:14:41] <djlewis> I have not heard of any in any of the BeagleBoard line.
[00:15:06] <djlewis> someone please correct me if I am wrong here.
[00:15:09] <alan_o> stand by, I'll find the info on my other box......
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[00:16:47] <alan_o> if you look in arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3beagle.c there's regulator stuff all over the place
[00:17:35] <alan_o> info in this thread: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/4/11/81
[00:17:48] <alan_o> I do understand that a lot of people have power issues.
[00:17:58] <alan_o> powering off the usb port, etc
[00:18:09] <alan_o> This isn't that, I promise :)
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[00:18:37] <djlewis> I am not aware of a hardware defect
[00:18:46] <alan_o> It's not a hardware defect
[00:18:52] <alan_o> it's just different than the rev B
[00:19:00] <alan_o> Also check the OE patches for beagle
[00:19:10] <alan_o> some of the stuff is backwards from the other XM boards
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[00:19:32] <alan_o> sorry, my terminology ("screwed up") may have been ambiguous.
[00:19:40] <alan_o> Works as designed, but differently than rev B
[00:19:52] <djlewis> well, I took you literally
[00:19:53] <alan_o> out of the box, it fails
[00:19:57] <alan_o> sorry :)
[00:20:18] <alan_o> I mean, I'm a hacker, right? I can get around this stuff eventually.
[00:20:26] <djlewis> that sounds more like software things that can be fixed by someone
[00:20:27] <alan_o> It just doesn't look great for the product line
[00:20:29] <alan_o> sure
[00:20:39] <alan_o> anything can be fixed in software, and a lot of stuff has
[00:20:47] <alan_o> in the OE patches, and in recent u-boot
[00:20:48] <alan_o> but
[00:20:58] <djlewis> you might keep in mind that this ahrdware is released while the software is being developed
[00:21:02] <djlewis> hardware
[00:21:07] <alan_o> one would expect that a part with the same SKU would be Form-fit-function compatible, that's all
[00:21:11] <joelagnel> The USB power level has changed for the xM- C . It is now active high IIRC
[00:21:31] <alan_o> joelagnel: yeah, something like that.
[00:21:51] <alan_o> That's about all I know about it. something got reversed.
[00:21:52] <djlewis> also note that on the beagleboard home page it is emphasized that this is a development platform.
[00:22:02] <alan_o> yes, indeed
[00:22:02] <joelagnel> alan_o, the 2.6.32 kernel will have to be patched but the one that ships with the board already has the patch as OE patches it anyway
[00:22:20] <alan_o> djlewis: That's why I'm looking for something more stable/robust/oem/whatever.
[00:22:46] <alan_o> joelagnel: yes, but that isn't the latest kernel, and it fails to power up the USB.
[00:22:51] <djlewis> we see many newbies that expect the product to come out of the box running full Ubuntu 11.xx and no hand holding too.
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[00:23:29] <joelagnel> alan_o, did you build your kernel with OE or apply the relevant patches? I think the xM rev C patch still hasn't gone into mainline
[00:23:41] <alan_o> joelagnel: yes. I have
[00:23:45] <djlewis> yeah, the BB is cost effective for testing your ideas and functions very well for that
[00:23:46] <alan_o> joelagnel: djlewis: fully understand. However..... if you're going to have an SD
[00:23:46] <joelagnel> hmm
[00:24:04] <alan_o> sorry, inadvertent enter
[00:24:28] <alan_o> djlewis, fully understand. However..... if you're going to have an SD card that comes with it, it shouldn't have half the board powered off. It's supposed to be for testing, right?
[00:24:41] <djlewis> lol
[00:24:44] <alan_o> joelagnel: Maybe I'm not communicating well. It works now :)
[00:24:55] <alan_o> I have it working, with the .39 kernel.
[00:25:04] <joelagnel> ok cool cool :)
[00:25:18] <alan_o> The OE stuff is another puzzling thing to me
[00:25:22] <djlewis> alan_o: yeah that might piss me off too ;)
[00:25:30] <djlewis> the SD
[00:25:34] <alan_o> Those patches don't seem to be pushed to mainline very hard.
[00:26:16] <alan_o> It's on my agenda to get on #oe and ask if there's a reason and if I can help in that respect. (you know, the offer to help instead of just complaining, not that they need me :) )
[00:26:19] <djlewis> alan_o: back in the day... when i got my revC2... I had to fish, learn, download and leran some more.
[00:26:44] <djlewis> no supplied sd
[00:27:30] <djlewis> people have worked, mostly voluntarily to get the XM shipping with a working SD.
[00:27:31] <alan_o> djlewis: yeah, that's how this seems to be, but man. I'd have expected it to be a bit more polished on the sw front. I just don't get why there isn't a git repo somewhere with a kernel that works out of the box. something from TI, I'd expect.
[00:27:48] <alan_o> yeah, maybe I miss the point somewhere
[00:27:52] <alan_o> isn't this a TI product?
[00:28:00] <Crofton> no
[00:28:07] <Crofton> it is a beagleboard.org project :)
[00:28:12] <Crofton> there is a difference
[00:28:21] <alan_o> I know they want to make it a community thing, but as far as I know, people at TI, during the course of doing their jobs, made this thing.
[00:28:41] <alan_o> Crofton: I get that. Kind of.....
[00:28:59] <Crofton> you are welcome to post a git repo on your own
[00:29:12] <djlewis> it could benefit others
[00:29:59] <djlewis> perhaps me if i ever get into the current generation :)
[00:30:03] <alan_o> Crofton: That's absolutely true. But then people would blame _me_ when stuff went wrong :)
[00:30:23] <Crofton> :)
[00:30:27] <djlewis> then you couldne bitch ;)
[00:30:40] <djlewis> couldn't resist :)
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[00:31:02] <alan_o> wait wait, I'd have to do all the work myself, and then I'd lose my ability to bitch? Still not seeing the upside :)
[00:31:10] <djlewis> lol
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[00:34:08] <djlewis> time to feed me and the canines round here ;)
[00:34:14] <alan_o> Hey, so right now I've got my new kernel working (+ self-built rootfs, woot!), but now I'm trying to boot the fs that I had before (angstrom), to test.
[00:34:29] <alan_o> I've got the old not getting a shell problem
[00:34:31] <alan_o> kernel boots
[00:34:35] <alan_o> stuff goes to console
[00:34:42] <alan_o> init doesn't kick me off a login
[00:34:48] <alan_o> it's not the ttyS/ttyO issue
[00:34:53] <alan_o> fixed that in inittab
[00:35:01] <alan_o> What's the other piece I'm forgetting
[00:35:18] <alan_o> I did this once already..... can't remember the part I'm missing
[00:35:55] <alan_o> (oh, and as a side note, whoever decided to change ttyS to ttyO in the kernel I'd like to ask a few questions of)
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[00:39:33] <Crofton> kernel args?
[00:40:31] <alan_o> Crofton, pretty sure they're right. Currently NFS
[00:40:32] <alan_o> setenv bootargs ro ip=192.168.1.201:192.168.1.103:192.168.1.1:255.255.255.0:beagle:eth0:off root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.1.103:/media/Angstrom console=ttyO2,115200n8 earlyprintk;
[00:41:03] <alan_o> Crofton, I do get "INIT: version 2.86 booting" and some other stuff after it
[00:41:21] <alan_o> just no shell (or login prompt)
[00:41:48] <alan_o> From inittab: O2:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 ttyO2
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[00:42:06] <alan_o> made sure it's an O and not a zero.
[00:42:08] <alan_o> L)
[00:42:09] <alan_o> :)
[00:42:18] <alan_o> did that one before one time.
[00:45:21] <Crofton> have you made sure the eth0 does not go down and up
[00:45:27] <Crofton> /etc/interfaces
[00:45:38] <Crofton> comment out auto eth0 or something like that
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[00:49:17] <alan_o> just did that. trying a reboot......
[00:50:03] <alan_o> doesn't look like that's it. I have the same issues booting this same partition off an SD card. Right now I acutually have the SD in another computer and I'm sharing it over NFS
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[01:17:12] <djlewis> well, tunafish in oil mixed into ramen noodles without the default seasoning is strange but edible :)
[01:17:50] <alan_o> yes
[01:17:51] <alan_o> indeed
[01:18:47] <djlewis> glad I have this cinnamon cake to help the aftertaste ...
[01:19:37] <djlewis> now, back to sorting out mysteries of the cortex..
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[01:23:46] <djlewis> nice end-o-the-day :) http://weather.djlewis.us/
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[01:28:11] <alan_o> nice
[01:28:14] <alan_o> is that out your window?
[01:29:19] <alan_o> I mean, it's on your domain, and I assume it's possible that you're on a college campus where there's an observatory close by
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[01:29:34] <alan_o> or it could just be a borrowed picture from the observatory website :)
[01:30:03] <alan_o> It is webcamimage.jpg coming from your domain
[01:31:36] <mdp> photography studio backdrop screen
[01:31:48] <ds2> greenscreens!
[01:31:58] <mdp> he can do the weather!
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[01:33:42] <djlewis> alan_o: yes, my upstairs window. Its all on my web site.
[01:34:19] <djlewis> mdp: i do have tv studio equipment that I could do that with.
[01:34:25] <djlewis> Havent fired it up in years.
[01:34:38] <djlewis> Heck, today we can do it with our computers
[01:34:48] <alan_o> djlewis, I suppose I could have looked at the rest of the web site :)
[01:34:52] <alan_o> nice view
[01:35:39] <alan_o> whoa, that's _your_ observatory
[01:35:44] <alan_o> awesome
[01:36:01] <djlewis> or, av500 calls it my nuclear outhouse
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[01:36:37] <djlewis> While I was building it neighbors got curious. Lots of strange ideas were floating around the neighborhood.
[01:37:02] <alan_o> hah
[01:37:02] <alan_o> man
[01:37:04] <alan_o> I can imagine
[01:37:18] <djlewis> Since we are so far out and rural, I told those that asked that it was a indoor rotating deer stand with a window.
[01:37:39] <alan_o> hah
[01:37:46] <djlewis> One neighbor came by to , seriously, warn me of aliens that visit us here.
[01:38:02] <alan_o> have they visited you yet?
[01:38:14] <djlewis> I was so thrown by him that I just said, you bet, i'll keep an eye out.
[01:38:42] <alan_o> I wish I knew what the deal was with the aliens. I mean...... people do see stuff.
[01:38:44] <alan_o> I never have
[01:38:46] <alan_o> but people
[01:38:52] <djlewis> as he went on to describe his alien experience.
[01:39:02] <alan_o> airline pilots. That's the rumor anyway
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[01:39:37] <alan_o> Some of the stories are from people who wouldn't be making stuff up. There's that one from the military base in the UK in the 70s I think. The base commander signed off on it.
[01:39:42] <djlewis> airline pilots are aliens?
[01:39:44] <alan_o> weird stuff
[01:39:46] <alan_o> could be
[01:39:55] <alan_o> I mean they _see_ stuff
[01:40:00] <alan_o> the pilots do
[01:40:01] <djlewis> :)
[01:40:01] <alan_o> supposedly
[01:40:10] <alan_o> I mean people are seeing something. What are they seeing?
[01:40:13] <alan_o> military stuff?
[01:40:19] <alan_o> The way I figure it......
[01:40:21] <djlewis> well, they smoke drugs and sleep while flying, no telling what they see
[01:40:33] <alan_o> It behooves the military to let people think that there are Aliens at Area 51.
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[01:40:45] <alan_o> because the reality is that Area 51 is where they test out the latest and greatest military stuff
[01:40:47] <alan_o> right?
[01:41:03] <alan_o> let them think it's aliens rather than have them try to figure out what it _really_ is
[01:41:56] <alan_o> Let's just hope there aren't any
[01:42:44] <alan_o> because if our own history as a species means anything..... a more advanced civilization finding and visiting Earth doesn't end well for us.
[01:43:10] <alan_o> Unless they have a Prime Directive :-D
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[01:43:37] <alan_o> hard to imagine though.... ok. I'm getting off of this, since it seems like I'm the only one on it :)
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[01:59:07] <ds2> grumble
[02:02:53] <alan_o> hungry?
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[02:07:09] <ds2> no, foo'ed bar network
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[03:28:40] <Nico___> Hi, is there anyone use the Angstrom? I got an image of Angstrom from Narussis, but I failed run up from SD card,
[03:29:51] <Nico___> The x-loader and u-boot run successfully, but says "Wrong Image Format for bootm command"
[03:30:07] <Nico___> Could you give some advice
[03:30:09] <Nico___> ?
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[03:39:36] <joelagnel> Nico___, your environment isn't set up properly
[03:40:11] <joelagnel> run "print loaduimage" in uboot and see whether it points to the correct uImage
[03:40:25] <joelagnel> also "print mmcboot"
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[03:46:06] <ds2> Nico from Canada?
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[04:11:20] <Nico___> I excute the command "print loaduimage" and get "loaduimage=ext2load mmc ${mmcdev}:2 ${loadaddr} /boot/uImage", what's this means?
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[04:46:11] <ds2> HmmMMMM
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[05:42:29] <joelagnel|away> hmm
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[05:58:02] <_av500_> hmmm
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[06:01:02] <Nico___> Hi, I run the u-boot on the beagle board, but it says "Can't read from device 0, Wrang Image Format fot bootm command"
[06:02:00] <Nico___> what should i do?
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[06:30:29] <joelagnel|away> Nico___, did you use the SD Card that came with the board?
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[06:33:29] <joelagnel|away> joelagnel|away, it seems you might have messed up your card, in that case you can use restore your card with one of the images at: http://www.circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Main_Page
[06:33:39] <joelagnel|away> s/use//
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[06:41:59] <Nico___> I think that's because I've change the env. I excute "saveenv" before. So my bakeup SD card does't work, neither.
[06:42:57] <Nico___> I get the info that "saveenv" is storing the env to NAND, so how to erase it?
[06:47:07] <Nico___> Ok, I use "nand erase" successfully.
[06:51:34] <Nico___> I use another u-boot loading the kernel image and get "Boot kernel from Legacy Image at 80200000 ..."
[06:51:55] <Nico___> "Starting kernel..."
[06:52:10] <Nico___> "Uncompressing linux............................................................................................"
[06:52:21] <Nico___> and stop here
[06:52:28] <Nico___> what's wrong?
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[07:08:34] <joelagnel|away> Nico___, make sure read the FAQ: http://www.beagleboard.org/support/faq
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[08:15:08] <Nico___> joelagnel|away, I've got an image of Angstrom, which contains the tool chain, how can I cross compile QT X11 for Angstrom
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[08:25:36] <koen> Nico___: go to the angstrom website and click on 'developers', then follow the instructions
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[08:57:54] <ant_work> koen: was I dreaming when I saw 'systemd' strings scrolling during oe-dev build of Angstrom console-x11 images?
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[09:04:04] <av500> ant_work: no, he joined the dark side
[09:05:39] <ant_work> heh, a.k.a. moon-eclypse release
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[09:12:48] <koen> ant_work: dunno
[09:13:28] <ant_work> eclypse was definitive sign my duti in oe-dev has finished ;)
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[09:18:43] <topfs2> koen master is dirty :p
[09:18:49] <koen> topfs2: sweet!
[09:19:41] <topfs2> indeed! need start fixing up the overlay stuff also
[09:20:09] <av500> please
[09:23:08] <topfs2> I've also looked through the code and talked to the player master and we have a plan on how to get rid of the memcpy properly
[09:26:59] <koen> sed -i /memcpy/d *.cpp ?
[09:30:10] <topfs2> hehe, thats one way I guess :)
[09:32:12] <av500> topfs2: can you url to the memcpy?
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[09:39:42] <mru> koen: that's how the debian security team would do it
[09:41:10] <av500> mru: for security reasons, replace memcpy with memset!
[09:41:25] <av500> and use the one from android bootloader
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[09:41:51] <Nico___> I've got an image of Angstrom, which constains the tool chain in the Angstrom/usr/bin directory. I also downloaded the qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.7.2, and edited the mkspecs/qws/linux-arm-g++/qmake.conf like this:
[09:42:01] <av500> pastebin
[09:42:59] <Nico___> # modifications to g++.conf QMAKE_CC = /usr/local/angstrom/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc QMAKE_CXX = /usr/local/angstrom/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ QMAKE_LINK = /usr/local/angstrom/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ QMAKE_LINK_SHLIB = /usr/local/angstrom/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-g++ # modifications to linux.conf QMAKE_AR = /usr/local
[09:44:32] <Nico___> And I config the Qt as "./configure -embedded arm -xplatform qws/linux-arm-g++ -fast"
[09:44:44] <Nico___> Is that correct?
[09:48:38] <av500> pastebin
[09:50:21] <koen> Nico___: why do you want to rebuild qt-x11? Angstrom already has it
[09:51:12] * koen notes lots of qt users insist on rebuilding qt4 themselves for no good reason
[09:52:39] <koen> and as I said 1.5 hours ago:
[09:52:40] <koen> 10:25 < koen> Nico___: go to the angstrom website and click on 'developers', then follow the instructions
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[10:13:15] <rOxx> Hello
[10:15:11] <rOxx> i have got a question about the uboot pinmux settings. what must i do to extract the u-boot.bin file to get the beagle.h ?
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[10:57:30] <JLaurin> Is there any possibility to connect the McBSP1 and McBSP3 to alsasink? I'm using GStreamer for capturing two audio streams on these
[10:58:15] <av500> write a driver for them=
[10:58:17] <av500> write a driver for them?
[10:58:35] <av500> or rather for the device connected to them
[10:59:38] <JLaurin> I suspected that I would need to write a driver :) thanks for the clarification
[11:00:22] <av500> well, write or modify an existing one
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[11:10:36] <JLaurin> yes exactly
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[11:20:04] <JLaurin> av500, modifying the mcbsp.c I guess is the easiest solution?
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[12:03:29] <Nico___> koen, I want to write code of
[12:05:13] <Nico___> koen, I want to write code of Qt and cross compile it on my host PC, and copy it to the Angstrom on the target board. Is that I need a cross compile tools on my host PC?
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[12:12:19] <koen> Nico___: correct
[12:12:27] <koen> Nico___: but you don't need to built qt itself
[12:13:03] <IulianU> hi all
[12:13:50] <IulianU> i'm having trouble with an SDIO device and a beagle
[12:13:54] <IulianU> is this the right place to ask?
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[12:19:45] <Nico___> koen, what you mean that I don't need to built qt itself?
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[12:27:44] <Nico___> koen, you said Angstrom already has qt. Is that means angstrom-2011.03-i686-linux-armv5te-linux-gnueabi-toolchain-qte-4.6.3.tar.bz2?
[12:28:11] <koen> that's qt/e
[12:28:24] <koen> in narcissus you can generate a qt/x11 sdk
[12:30:20] <Nico___> when I generate qt/x11 sdk, if I must write code on my host PC and compile it on target board use the sdk?
[12:31:08] <Nico___> In the other word, how I compile my code writed by qt?
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[12:37:37] <koen> if you have the host side sdk, you compile on your host
[12:37:48] <koen> if you have the target side sdk, you compile on your target
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[12:41:23] <Nico___> the host side sdk you said is I build a qt/x11 on my host, and use it to compile the code, then copy it to the target, is that right
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[12:45:00] <Nico___> on my host side, I build qt/x11 use command "./configure" && "make" && "make install", and use the qmake to compile the code?
[12:49:21] <mdp> Nico___: ideal setup (IMHO) is to do target side sdk, use nfsroot, and simply share the same checked out code base???build for host (binaries to a x86 build dir)???build natively on target (binaries to an armv7 build dir)???easy
[12:49:56] <mdp> I used to do a lot of that with directfb apps and personaly like that workflow
[12:50:14] <mdp> it also works in the cross mode, of course
[12:51:24] <mdp> koen, it's an ongoing battle between Tartarus and I over my love for having a target hosted toolchain
[12:52:02] <mdp> koen, it caused him some pain before
[12:54:10] <Nico___> sorry, mdp, I don't get your point clearly. Did you say that I can use the target side sdk to compile my host side code? how?
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[12:56:39] <mdp> no
[12:57:11] <jkridner> Nico__: host --> target or native (target-->target), those are your options.
[12:57:13] <mdp> I mean, when on nfsroot, you can build from the same copy of source, either for host or for target???which can be convenient
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[13:06:02] <Nico___> I means when I compile the qt code, I will use the command like "qmake" && "make". On the target sdk, I don't find this file.
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[13:33:20] <speakman> Where's how to put the file in the right order to boot from SD? Can't find it anymore.
[13:34:03] <speakman> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleSoftCompile
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[13:44:47] <koen> speakman: put MLO first, the rest doesn't matter
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[13:45:50] <dm8tbr> and don't forget the CHS! *duck* *run*
[13:48:08] <Nico___> koen, how to use the qt/x11 sdk in the Angstrom image?
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[13:48:28] <Nico___> please give some tips, thanks
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[13:49:58] <koen> use it like you would use it in "regular" linux
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[13:52:48] <Nico___> koen, but in "regular" linux, I will use the qmake to compile tool, I don't find the qmake tool in the qt/x11 sdk in the Angstrom image, so how to I compile the source into a program?
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[14:12:12] <jkridner> Nico__: qmake is available in the Angstrom toolchain, both cross and native.
[14:12:47] <jkridner> Nico__: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/
[14:13:37] <jkridner> joelagnel: I think we need to add some mechanism to the logbot to be able to highlight FAQs like ^^^^
[14:13:57] <jkridner> no worries if you don't have quick ideas on doing so, just noting it.
[14:15:14] <jkridner> Nico___: I might have missed one of your underscores above.
[14:17:15] <koen> information regarding refrigerator assistance using beagleboard
[14:17:18] * koen WTFs
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[14:19:55] <rcn-ee_at_work> laughs, isn't that why the touchbook has magnetic's, to throw on the fridge..
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[14:22:25] <av500> koen: but fridges run E17
[14:22:35] <koen> av500: beagle can run e17 as well
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[14:22:51] <av500> yes
[14:23:02] <av500> raster: ^^^when can we buy it?
[14:24:03] <emeb> someone please send me the refrigerator codes
[14:31:21] * wmat reads list and weeps
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[14:31:47] * emeb reads list and giggles
[14:32:20] <djlewis> reads list and chokes
[14:33:26] <djlewis> swallowing coffee and reading that first list item is not safe :P
[14:33:52] <av500> i guess a whole school class got a BB assignment
[14:33:59] <av500> and they ran out of ideas
[14:34:06] <djlewis> and found the list
[14:34:23] * emeb giggles louder and more maniacally
[14:34:32] <djlewis> hehe
[14:35:06] <wmat> what is "b.tech"?
[14:36:21] <jkridner> will I be the first one to reply with a suggestion to add magnets?
[14:36:23] <wmat> oh, bachelor of technology maybe
[14:36:58] <koen> av500: you savage!!!one!!
[14:36:58] <djlewis> jkridner: sounds reasonable to me
[14:37:10] <av500> read and weep: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2654004
[14:37:13] <emeb> everything is better with magnets!
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[14:37:44] <djlewis> esp those fbi tracking devices with magnets that wont turn loose
[14:40:13] <djlewis> is " help to initiate the project?" same as please do it for me?
[14:40:34] <emeb> same as 'write it on the blackboard for me'
[14:41:48] <emeb> or perhaps 'write it on the refrigerator for me' in this case
[14:42:21] <djlewis> that list sounds strangely like a GSOC challenge.
[14:42:26] <djlewis> he
[14:42:27] <djlewis> he
[14:42:35] <emeb> ho
[14:42:36] <emeb> ho
[14:42:45] <wmat> there are some schools that teach courses using the Beagle and do it right, like Rose-Hullman Institute
[14:43:30] <djlewis> so they give you a board and a bit of time and tel you to make magic happen?
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[14:44:06] <emeb> and maybe a TA who knows how the BB works and can give clues when you're stuck...
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[14:44:42] <wmat> RH uses elinux.org to house all of it's course material and students post their projects there as well
[14:44:53] <djlewis> unfortuantely that begins with opening the box for many.
[14:46:56] <mru> the problem in many schools is that they teach "programming system foo" not "programming, incidentally using system foo"
[14:46:56] <wmat> http://elinux.org/Category:ECE497
[14:47:28] <mru> so when the students get to the real world, which uses system bar, they're totally helpless
[14:47:55] <djlewis> mru: that sounds a little like my Vax-11 as'y class
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[14:47:56] <av500> can I ported android on bar?
[14:48:37] <djlewis> though vax-11 ass'y is close to intel 8xxx
[14:50:03] <mru> it's as if driving schools taught you to drive a ford, leaving you unable to operate a toyota
[14:50:03] <djlewis> seems they were still pushing pdp-11 and vax-11 while digital was trying to survive in the 90's
[14:50:40] <djlewis> yeah, we teach you the automatic but you are on your own with the standard
[14:50:53] <djlewis> easier on the teachers
[14:51:12] <mru> in europe you can choose
[14:51:18] <av500> I could not
[14:51:26] <mru> at least in sweden, if you take the test with an automatic, that's all the licence is valid for
[14:51:32] <av500> ah
[14:51:34] <av500> no such thing here
[14:51:41] <djlewis> as it should be
[14:51:42] <mru> few people take that option
[14:51:47] <av500> can you get tested on right turns only?
[14:51:51] <mru> I can see it being useful for a disabled person
[14:52:06] <mru> av500: no, but there's a wrong-turn only option
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[14:53:17] <jkridner> did I actually write 'act' instead of 'ask' in my e-mail to that poor lost soul?
[14:54:15] <mru> would that have made for a humourous effect
[14:54:17] <mru> ?
[14:54:36] <av500> jkridner: wow, an epic answer
[14:55:28] <djlewis> a little humor, a lot of pointing in the right direction.
[14:55:37] <av500> trying to reform a whole country's education system in there....
[14:57:27] <djlewis> there are several countries with the "if you give it to me I have learned" attitude.
[14:57:57] <djlewis> though I have met some that will pay for it too :)
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[15:02:28] <koen> av500: http://v.cx/2010/04/feynman-brazil-education.html
[15:04:27] <av500> yes
[15:06:17] <av500> koen: which reminds me, you went to brazil
[15:06:49] <emeb> did he get waxe?
[15:06:52] <emeb> waxed?
[15:07:00] * wmat wonders how pervasive that style of educatin is globally?
[15:07:03] <emeb> never mind - TMI
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[15:11:24] <koen> av500: the people I spoke to in brazil were the opensource people
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[15:21:52] <djlewis> koen: interesting.. helps to clarify some of it from our point of view.
[15:22:39] <djlewis> first reaction might be they are lazy but then culture shows it is different.
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[15:39:58] <djlewis> ooh, something I just read about setting up GPIO made sense :)
[15:52:23] <Crofton> av500, you made me hurt myself laughing
[15:52:36] <av500> I do hope so
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[16:15:27] <kaylyn> I am trying to install a few lib packages without internet but they all require 'opkg update.' Does anyone know how to run opkg update without internet by any chance?
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[16:17:53] <koen> just get internet to the beagle
[16:18:01] <koen> fairly easy with usbnet and a linux host
[16:18:08] <koen> otherwise, use narcissus
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[16:20:20] <kaylyn> Thanks I'll try narcissus!
[16:20:41] <Crofton> av500, I wish I could respond to some emails with "Have your advisor assign another grad student to work on the e100" :)
[16:27:50] <joelagnel|away> koen, did you ever use the musb otg support in u-boot on newer beagles?
[16:28:28] <joelagnel|away> just wondering.
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[16:36:08] <jooe> hi, anybody there?
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[16:36:55] <jkridner> have a take, don't suck
[16:37:25] <jooe> anyone suffering with a beagleboard or similar?
[16:37:48] <jkridner> joelagnel|away: the musb in u-boot worked inconsistently for me.
[16:38:11] <jkridner> joelagnel|away: the ridgerun patches worked better for me
[16:39:02] <joelagnel|away> jkridner, is it something to do with the validation tree? Because the U-boot from that tree had other issues
[16:39:13] <joelagnel|away> Like it was hanging with the latest MLO
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[16:40:07] <jooe> need some help with TI decodecs... anyone has experienced with them?
[16:40:08] * joelagnel|away rofls @ "Suffering with a beagleboard"
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[16:40:42] <jooe> :) nice
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[16:55:54] <koen> joelagnel: I never managed to get musb in uboot to work properly
[16:56:21] <av500> s/in uboot//
[16:56:39] <koen> av500: musb works properly with ajay on speeddial
[16:56:53] <koen> "for some reason or another"
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[16:58:13] <ds2> drop kick it a few times, it might work better ;)
[16:58:30] <jooe> i'm trying to get a decent speed while playing video on an beagle clone with TI CS + gst-ti, anybody has experience on most typical bottlenecks?
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[16:58:59] <av500> CS?
[17:00:09] <jooe> codec server
[17:00:10] <jooe> s
[17:02:41] <jooe> it's working with omapfb and v4l2 outputs, but only getting about 6 fps...
[17:02:59] <koen> vrfb?
[17:04:45] <jooe> yes
[17:05:03] <jooe> it's a 720x576 video
[17:05:04] <koen> disable that if you can live with static rotation
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[17:07:29] <Crofton> people should be graded on the questions they ask abut class projects on public mailing lists
[17:07:55] <koen> "Prof Balister, can you send me the codes plz?"
[17:08:35] <av500> "Could you show us all the steps"
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[17:08:57] <koen> "Please do not shout guesses"
[17:09:03] <jooe> who does rotation if enabled, the arm?
[17:09:12] <av500> the VRFB unit
[17:10:01] <av500> koen: am I allowed to say "abandonware"?
[17:10:22] <koen> av500: yes
[17:10:44] <av500> koen: btw, wasnt there reports on gst-ti no working with latest angstrom, is that fixed?
[17:10:47] <koen> av500: if people need to get offended before taking action, so be it
[17:11:03] <koen> av500: TI have me an intern to look at it
[17:11:13] <jooe> any other guess about possible reasons?
[17:11:17] <koen> av500: so ask joelagnel, he is looking at fixing dmai today :)
[17:11:30] <av500> koen: I thought we writes IRC reports all day?
[17:11:38] <av500> we->he
[17:12:11] <ds2> koen: this is a great plan to get him to quite so you guys can save on severance, isn't it? ;)
[17:12:59] <av500> jooe: so, gst-ti is not really abandonware since somebody is looking into making it work again
[17:13:21] <koen> and technically it's not gst-ti that's broken
[17:13:26] <jooe> oh, i didn't know
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[17:13:49] <koen> av500: but if you're on 2.6.32, it works fine
[17:14:07] <av500> koen: you know I dont use such new kernels :)
[17:14:18] <jooe> no... 2.6.37
[17:14:36] <av500> koen: my last kernel with link/CE was 27...
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[17:14:53] <jooe> i'm seeing something nasty
[17:15:07] <jooe> with the displaybuffer on the TIViddec2
[17:15:11] <jooe> plugin
[17:15:13] <joelagnel> av500, IRC reports take about 60 minutes to write , I do it because I get to learn a lot each time :)
[17:15:37] <av500> joelagnel: :)
[17:16:11] <jooe> the buffer is getting full periodically, as if it were not read quickly enough
[17:16:37] <jooe> the arm cpu is 'on holidays' almost all the time
[17:17:17] <av500> as it should be
[17:17:28] <av500> jooe: there is also #gst-ti
[17:17:42] <av500> but mostly there is nobody to help you there
[17:18:03] <av500> jooe: what they tell you is to ask on TI e2e
[17:18:26] <av500> if you are a paying customer, you should do that btw
[17:18:46] <jooe> yes, i suppose i am
[17:19:36] <jooe> i'm working on a beagleboard clone
[17:20:01] <av500> then please also ask on ti e2e
[17:20:08] <av500> so that TI sees that there are issues
[17:20:47] <jooe> ok, btw, any alternative to gst-ti usable nowadays?
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[17:21:10] <av500> there is gst-dsp
[17:21:15] <av500> I dont know the state of it
[17:21:26] <av500> mostly experimental if you dont run it on a N900...
[17:21:41] <av500> there is also "just use DMAI directly"
[17:21:48] <av500> or "just use link/CE directly"
[17:22:00] <av500> I am from the last camp
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[17:24:21] <koen> hmmm
[17:24:33] <koen> the SSD is bottlenecking the build
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[17:25:21] <tectu> has anyone interfaced an I??C Device with a BeagleBoard xM?
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[17:26:43] <jkridner> tectu: easiest proof is reading the EDID EEPROM on DVI-D/HDMI monitors.
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[17:30:21] <jooe> i would like to check if the bottleneck is in the DSP, is there any method apart from CE_DEBUG logs?
[17:30:41] <koen> jooe: you should have a dmaiperf element you can play with
[17:31:19] <koen> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/GstTIPlugin_Elements#dmaiperf
[17:31:38] <koen> the only downside is that dmaiperf needs a ton of unbreakme arguments
[17:31:55] <koen> like 'engine-name'
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[17:33:09] <jooe> thanks for the information, koen
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[17:33:55] <jconnolly> hiya jkridner
[17:34:05] <jkridner> howdy jconnolly
[17:34:20] <jconnolly> our marketing folks were in touch with you recently about a beagle hack event celebrating the 3rd anniversary of beagle (3rd right?)
[17:34:37] <jconnolly> she was going to be get back to me with details but I thought I'd just ask you...
[17:35:36] <jkridner> started doing a write-up on http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard_3yr_Anniversary ...
[17:35:43] <jkridner> looking at times/venues...
[17:36:23] <jkridner> starting to look at ELC-E.
[17:36:35] <jooe> i'm trying the ouput of the TIViddec2 to a fakesink
[17:36:44] <jconnolly> oh cool
[17:36:46] <jooe> and it goes slow also...
[17:36:58] <av500> jooe: the dsp is not the bottleneck, it decodes SD content just fine
[17:37:28] <av500> its all the glue and wrapper layers on top of it
[17:37:31] <jconnolly> ah she mentioned a july timeframe, thinking of ELC-E would put it in october, yeah?
[17:37:38] <jkridner> still thinking if anything would be appropriate around Maker Faire NY.
[17:38:01] <jkridner> yeah, we aren't going to make it to July. Just hope to get an announcement in July.
[17:38:19] <jconnolly> neat. well I'll stay tuned but we'd love to participate
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[17:38:51] <av500> jkridner: given the fact that most of the action happend on european business hours, I expect that event over here!!!
[17:38:54] <jkridner> yeah, really want you guys involved. I'll notify you when I update the wiki page with the latest discussions.
[17:39:05] <jconnolly> excellent, much obliged.
[17:39:07] <jkridner> yeah, that is why ELC-E is my #1.
[17:39:24] <av500> cool
[17:39:35] <jconnolly> any excuse for me to get to ELC-E too ;D
[17:40:39] <jooe> av500: i think something regarding mem transfers could be also
[17:40:47] <Crofton> an event at ELC-E that highlights the Beagle and products that it led to would be awesome :)
[17:41:09] <jooe> my omap is at 600 MHz
[17:41:32] <mru> Crofton: who cares about the talks? drinking beer at intel's expense is what matters
[17:41:42] <jooe> I suppose this one is also capable of decoding a D1
[17:41:43] <Crofton> rofl
[17:41:45] <jconnolly> hehe mru
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[17:41:54] <Crofton> this is #beagle, we shoudl stay on topic
[17:41:58] <av500> jooe: there is no mem transfers
[17:42:05] <jkridner> lol Crofton
[17:42:25] <jooe> i hope so... but you never know :)
[17:42:32] <av500> am I blind or is there no elce-2011 page?
[17:42:40] <av500> http://www.embeddedlinuxconference.com/
[17:42:42] <jooe> with all these layers of ... software
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[17:43:22] <av500> ah, finally http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference-europe/cfp
[17:43:35] <koen> mru: don't forget about free food
[17:43:43] <mru> beer is food
[17:43:43] <jkridner> so, beagle demo party at ELC-E?
[17:44:00] <jconnolly> +1
[17:44:10] <mru> jkridner: sure
[17:45:27] <Crofton> we need to get somem more of the yocto corp members chipping in to the food and beer fund
[17:47:17] <ds2> mru: will that be a yocto drink or a meego drink?
[17:47:41] <koen> meego people don't go to ELC*
[17:47:51] <ds2> cups might be a bit small for the yocto drinks ;)
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[17:49:31] <koen> jkridner|work1: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/centaurus/ now has a gnome image as well
[17:51:00] <jkridner> sweet. still no display w/o loading of VPSS though, right?
[17:52:40] <koen> right
[17:53:07] <koen> you should be able to drop in the prebuilt loader and fw
[17:53:08] <av500> some things cannot be changed by pure willpower
[17:55:52] <koen> jkridner|work1: I like how sl3 uses the stock linux fw loader
[17:56:12] <jkridner> sl3?
[17:56:18] * jkridner googles
[17:58:51] <mru> it's a vfp register...
[17:59:31] <koen> jkridner|work1: syslink3
[17:59:43] <jkridner> oh!
[18:00:06] <koen> sadly seems to use that *$(@*$(#*$(# binder
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[18:01:01] <jkridner> is there a place I can grab the prebuilt loader and fw? TI internal only?
[18:01:07] <mru> oh, I read that as s13
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[18:01:34] <koen> jkridner|work1: I think so, I never looked at centaurus
[18:01:36] <av500> I read it as sle
[18:01:46] <koen> jkridner|work1: I was always looking at netra
[18:01:54] <jkridner> because av500 is l33t
[18:02:39] <av500> koen: the *evil* binder?
[18:03:24] <koen> av500: and in the darkness binder
[18:03:34] <emeb> ohhhhh.....
[18:03:55] <av500> lord of the bings?
[18:03:57] <koen> av500: nokla isn't driving syslink anymore, that darn green robot is
[18:04:12] <av500> lord of the baidus...
[18:04:48] <av500> koen: nokla is driving COM these days
[18:05:02] <av500> and managered code
[18:05:06] <koen> exactly
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[18:05:55] <Crofton> I need someone to send me an unlocked green robot phone with a camera that focuses
[18:06:06] <av500> Crofton: google did that
[18:06:33] <koen> av500: the funny thing is that that robot was asking for "mainline approach" and then demanded binder support
[18:07:07] <av500> damn, now I need binder user space in my non-android build...
[18:07:11] <emeb> pls send me green robot refrigerator with speech scrambled ring binder codes?
[18:07:43] <koen> emeb: do you need the exact steps as well?
[18:08:01] <Crofton> bluetooth enabled microwave washing machine
[18:08:13] <emeb> koen: yes, exactly
[18:08:19] * av500 starts printing a MLO hexdump for emeb
[18:08:57] <emeb> av500: pls snail mail it to me
[18:09:58] <av500> emeb: sec, need to scan it 1st
[18:10:08] * emeb likes this part -> "BE PREPARED TO BE CALLED AN IDIOT"
[18:11:23] <av500> what bugs me more than the "get me the codes" is the total lack of "interest" that these ppl show
[18:11:50] <av500> like not even doing a simple "ls" to see what is actually on their hdd, sdcard, whatever
[18:12:06] <emeb> just going thru the motions...
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[18:12:46] <av500> like being unable to cd into the git clone folder they just did
[18:12:53] <av500> then make... fails
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[18:13:02] <av500> and then PLEASE HELPS ME
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[18:15:55] <djlewis> so we are rock'in with this all day ;)
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[18:16:09] <djlewis> it is fun though
[18:16:38] <mru> and it's not even friday
[18:17:20] <emeb> schools need to teach rule 3: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/30
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[18:20:09] <mru> that rule is the essence of science
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[18:22:25] <djlewis> i see i got qouted out of context... And I like it :)
[18:22:30] <koen> so the BeagleBoard uses camelcasing
[18:24:49] <emeb> lol -> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/89
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[18:26:05] <emeb> a big round of applause to mru for bringing us that site.
[18:26:21] <av500> I should have linked to http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/43
[18:27:22] * emeb noticed that seemed similar to the reply
[18:29:58] <ds2> av500: this has COM? http://www.dealextreme.com/p/nokla-webxpress-tube-5800-3-0-touch-screen-dual-sim-dual-network-triband-gsm-cell-phone-20401
[18:30:21] <av500> it has 404 for me
[18:30:37] <av500> ds2: but yes, it has Chinese Object Model
[18:30:44] <ds2> I see
[18:34:33] <koen> bah, I need to learn proper grammar if my quotes keep ending up on websites
[18:34:41] <ds2> ahahaahhaha
[18:34:54] <djlewis> i dunno, but #46 just radiates a great answer to todays list.
[18:35:34] <av500> djlewis: yes, but we want to give answers that actually help these people...
[18:35:55] <djlewis> argh, and I though i was so close :(
[18:36:38] <djlewis> :)
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[18:46:26] <koen> jkridner, ds2: http://www.treelobsters.com/2011/02/237-reproducible.html
[18:47:45] <emeb> snerk
[18:47:57] <jkridner> "feeds on the tears of nerds" nice.
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[19:24:00] <Ceriand|work> koen: lol, I'm actually just starting to build one
[19:24:19] <Ceriand|work> looks like i'm in for some work :-/
[19:31:08] <koen> Ceriand|work: my mendel is like my linux machines, it always "almost works" before I go change it
[19:31:22] <Ceriand|work> heh
[19:32:04] <Ceriand|work> I'm building a clonedel so I'll probably have extra fun trying to get the molded parts to work
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[19:33:51] <koen> Ceriand|work: if you run into extruder problems, have a look at makergear.com
[19:34:07] <Ceriand|work> koen: yea, I got my hot end from them
[19:34:32] <Ceriand|work> one of the the guys in my meetup group printed me the rest of the extruder
[19:35:02] <koen> smart man :)
[19:37:03] <Ceriand|work> koen: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49139957@N00/5840390886/
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[19:39:39] <koen> nice
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[19:53:01] <prpplague> anyone interested in buying a lightly used Intronix LogicPort, give me a shout
[19:53:21] <av500> ?
[19:53:55] <av500> sry, I misread "building"
[19:54:03] <av500> $10?
[19:54:11] <prpplague> av500: $250
[19:54:31] <av500> lets meet in the middle
[19:55:27] <prpplague> av500: lets not
[19:55:39] <prpplague> av500: hehe
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[20:19:41] <joelagnel> koen, cco doesn't know how to get the codes
[20:20:24] <koen> send them
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[22:16:21] <xxiao> i have a system without a serial console, i need run a 'ethtool && ifconfig' right after it boots up so that I can ssh into, where should i put this little script? it's a base-image ramdisk
[22:18:03] <xxiao> put it under rc5.d?
[22:18:10] <xxiao> could not find a thing like rc.local
[22:18:15] <xxiao> anyway will try rc5.d
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[22:28:19] <xxiao> rc5.d works
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[23:06:23] <joelagnel> koen, hey, it appears that the ti-dmai packages built by oe is empty
[23:06:31] <joelagnel> s/is/are
[23:07:03] <joelagnel> I extracted the ipks I built and the ones I found at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=ti-dmai
[23:07:31] <joelagnel> Is this is a known problem?
[23:07:38] <joelagnel> *Is this a known problem
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[23:23:00] <koen> joelagnel: why would it be a problem?
[23:23:12] <koen> joelagnel: it's a static lib that gets linked in, well, statically
[23:24:24] <joelagnel> oh, so the ipks just store metadata?
[23:25:07] <koen> yes, it's there so we can see which version we have built
[23:25:13] <koen> and to confuse people :)
[23:25:46] <joelagnel> :) I'm still not sure how I should go
[23:25:59] <joelagnel> sorry that was inadvertent
[23:27:16] <ds2> trace the recipe first
[23:27:19] <ds2> ;)
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[23:35:48] <koen> joelagnel: have a look at the stuff in the ti-dmai-apps packages
[23:36:05] <joelagnel> koen, they just have examples?
[23:44:47] <joelagnel> If you could give me 5 minutes of your time whenever you're free it would really help me, thanks
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[23:55:32] <joelagnel> What is more puzzling is there are a gazillion files (documentation etc..) in /deploy for ti-dmai that don't seem to go into any ti-dmai* ipk