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[01:10:33] <dancios> where can i found some complex HOWTO use sdk generated by narcissus ?
[01:11:21] <Crofton> what do you mena?
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[01:11:56] <dancios> i downlad img for beagle and sdk :) and i want to cross compile my aplication
[01:13:25] <thurbad> the sdk in narcissus is for native compiling on the board
[01:14:15] <Crofton> narcissus gives you an option to get a toolchain you can cross compile with
[01:14:25] <Crofton> I am using that tolchain to build kernels
[01:14:57] <thurbad> you mean that oe bitbake stuff?
[01:15:01] <dancios> i get toolchain Angstrom-2011.06-narcissus-beagleboard-i686-gwidkov-image-sdk.tar.gz
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[01:15:51] <Crofton> dancios, untar it
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[01:16:56] <dancios> i put in /usr/local but i never worked with OE and have no idea how to generate images from it
[01:17:16] <dancios> and how to use toolchain
[01:18:07] <dbr> On the -xM rev B, how fast can I read/write the on GPIO?
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[04:36:39] <mru> Crofton: :)
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[07:23:34] <jou> I want to setup NTP ?
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[07:26:54] <av500> no
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[07:38:12] <jou> any help on ntpdate? i am getting error "no servers can be used, exiting"
[07:39:03] <av500> you have networking up and running?
[07:39:58] <jou> yes
[07:40:22] <jou> i can do apt-get install ,
[07:40:41] <jou> brouse web page
[07:41:54] <av500> and you looked at http://www.google.com/search?q=ntp+"no+servers+can+be+used%2C+exiting" ?
[07:42:55] <jou> DNS is required for this NTP?
[07:43:18] <jou> any alternet method for time syncronization
[07:43:26] <koen> depends on your viewpoint
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[08:38:45] <jou_> how to do auto update for time information on beaglebaord?
[08:38:58] <jou_> I have tried NTP but it failed?
[08:39:13] <jou_> so I am looking an alternative option
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[08:39:57] <jou_> any idea
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[08:44:10] <av500> find out why NTP failed
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[08:50:47] <jou_> even i am not able to start ntp on my ubuntu machine
[08:54:55] <jou_> av500 : i found that due to security resion we have not open NTP port, so i have to configre NTP server on local machine and test
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[09:12:16] <basti_> hi, has anyone yet used the pvrtrace tool?
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[11:32:11] <JLaurin> I'm trying to run the audio out test on the BB with a Angstrom distro, but it says that the device or resource is busy
[11:32:35] <JLaurin> clues?
[11:33:37] <JLaurin> aplay: main:660: audio open error: Device or Resource Busy
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[11:43:00] <koen> the joys of working from home: eating raw herring with onions for lunch
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[11:45:32] <basti_> nice koen ;)
[11:47:57] <koen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Broodje_Haring.jpeg
[11:49:53] <JLaurin> hmm strange... I can record, but i can't play it, that's when i get the message och device being busy
[11:50:02] <JLaurin> of*
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[12:32:06] <JLaurin> Quite lost of getting it working, can someone please tell me why the resource is busy, here a pastebin: http://pastebin.com/5DzfCRkJ
[12:32:38] <JLaurin> Could it be the pulseaudio process? Tried to kill it but it keeps on respawning
[12:34:33] <koen> pasuspender
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[12:48:15] <JLaurin> koen looks useful, thanks!
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[12:59:03] <JLaurin> koen, how is it used? cannot find any commands how to execute it before i run aplay
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[13:02:39] <koen> pasuspender aplay
[13:04:17] <JLaurin> connection failure: Connection refused
[13:04:19] <JLaurin> aplay: main:660: audio open error: Device or Resource Busy
[13:08:25] <JLaurin> koen, any other way i can get past this problem? I just want to make a simple audio test
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[13:18:40] <koen> if it can't connect you are probably trying to use aplay out of the user session
[13:20:13] <av500> why not make an image without pa?
[13:20:16] <JLaurin> so i shouldn't be as root when i try it out?
[13:20:47] <JLaurin> av500, i've just followed the directions in the BB SRM for audio test
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[13:27:39] <JLaurin> hmm cannot even use gstreamer for playback
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[16:35:24] <Crofton> koen, sdk issue, no native packages :)
[16:35:42] <av500> Crofton: don't use naive packages!
[16:36:01] <Crofton> heh
[16:36:14] <Crofton> python-cheetah for example
[16:36:39] <koen> BBCLASS_EXTEND ?
[16:39:14] <koen> sakoman: meta-gnome now has gnome-panel and gdm
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[18:51:29] <Kuri> Hello
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[18:52:10] <Kuri> Hello
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[18:53:11] <Kuri> I have some problems with the beagletouch, i did the soldering but i have made mistakes : Black color is pink, and touchscreen doesnt work (i see that from E), any advices to help me find wich pins i failed to solder properly ?
[19:05:30] <mIKEjONES> u shud poor sodder all ovr it
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[19:10:14] <xkenneth> Hey, can anyone maybe give me a clue as to why I'm not getting a dev node for any USB converters?
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[19:11:43] <Mohit> hello
[19:12:06] <Kuri> here is what i get : http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6932/dscn0771.png
[19:13:39] <saidinesh5> Mohit: :)
[19:13:47] <Mohit> yaa :)
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[19:15:14] <Mohit> anyone there? have a doubt on beagle board development
[19:15:40] <Mohit> What is the best path to OpenGl environment on beagle board?
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[19:53:28] <Kuri> ive also something strange, if i plug a mouse on the usb port of the beagle, it lights up, and instantly lights down. Mouse works on every computer here, except beagle
[19:53:51] <Kuri> running angstrom on it, on a compact flash given by liquidware.com
[19:53:56] <xkenneth> Hey All, I've tried 4 different serial adaptors and unfortunately none of them give me a dev node. Does anyone here have some expertise they would be willing to share to help me diagnose the problem?
[19:54:24] <prpplague> Kuri: several things could be occuring, but most likely you don;t have support for that mouse device in your kernel
[19:54:35] <Kuri> prpplague> ah!
[19:54:44] <Kuri> ive tried 2 mouses
[19:54:50] <Kuri> so i might need to rebuild angstrom
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[19:55:25] <prpplague> Kuri: basically it powers on the device, says "what kind of USB device are you?", "I'm a HID mouse", "sorry i don't have HID mouse support enabled" , then it turns the power off
[19:55:54] <Kuri> prpplague> thats what i was guessing, but since i got nothing to check (no keyboard, no mouse, cant check anything)
[19:56:07] <Kuri> prpplague> was just mouting compact flash on this computer to see logs
[19:56:26] <prpplague> Kuri: just check your kernel config and or kernel modules
[19:56:29] <Kuri> ah, syslog is off
[19:56:40] <prpplague> Kuri: your angstrom build most likely has it as a kernel module
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[20:29:11] <dancios> small question can i copy target from toolchain narcissus angstrom directly? creating only /proc /dev /sys ?
[20:30:03] <dancios> would it work ?
[20:30:29] <woglinde> ?
[20:30:55] <woglinde> how does a toolchain produce /proc /dev /sys?
[20:31:02] <dancios> i'm talking about /usr/local/angstrom/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi
[20:31:46] <dancios> i will create those directories manually on sdcard
[20:32:12] <woglinde> why you dont make a narcissus image with gcc included
[20:33:00] <dancios> becouse i have many files to compile and integrate manually and does not have space for full bitbake infrastructure
[20:33:40] <woglinde> ?
[20:33:48] <woglinde> do you want crosscompile?
[20:35:04] <dancios> i just want the information if i copy /usr/local/angstrom/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ to microSD that the whole system will boot ?
[20:36:13] <dancios> i have quite big program and compilation on arm is pain in the asss so i recompiled everything in crosscompiler)
[20:36:15] <woglinde> ?????
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[20:36:23] <woglinde> what the hell you will do?
[20:37:54] <woglinde> bitbake is mostly for crosscompile
[20:38:14] <woglinde> the narcissus sdk-toolchain is mostly for crosscompiling too
[20:39:34] <dancios> exactly in this toolchain is folder /usr/local/angstrom/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ which is exact target filesystem infrastructure and i want to know that if i copy it to sd card does the beagle will boot ?
[20:40:53] <woglinde> again why the hell you dont make an narcissus image with gcc and all -dev libs you need included?
[20:41:53] <dancios> IO operation on sd card is pain in the ass :D
[20:42:18] <woglinde> o.O
[20:42:25] <woglinde> I think you dont understand it all
[20:43:10] <woglinde> 1. install the sdk if you dont want bitbake on your host
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[20:43:23] <woglinde> 2. make an image wich you can flash to the sd-card
[20:43:43] <woglinde> 3. crosscompile what ever you want on your host
[20:43:52] <_av500_> 4. drink beer
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[20:44:09] <woglinde> 4. copie the crosscompiled stuff over, be sure you copy all files needed
[20:44:16] <woglinde> av500 excatly
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[20:47:53] <dancios> so there is no way to generate *.bz2 package from toolchain :(
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[20:49:12] <koen> you can opkg install anything you want into the toolchain
[20:49:22] <koen> but it would be loads easier to just use narcissus
[20:49:36] <koen> and sdk is for developing for something
[20:49:46] <koen> not to create something from scratch
[20:51:09] <dancios> i just wanted integarted all stuff installed with opkg-target to make my work easier :)
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[21:08:18] <woglinde> koen seems he didnt understand a thing I said
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[21:17:24] <dancios> woglinde: currently i understand :) The toolchain is only form making compiling faster. i cannot generate image for beagle from it :) it has only rules for pkg-config, libraries, includes to make compilation process easies
[21:18:27] <woglinde> fine
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[21:56:11] <ds2> anyone know what silicon rev is a 40W report?
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[22:18:52] <ds2> better yet, is there table of ASIC IDs and ES versions somewhere?
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[22:21:06] <prpplague> ds2: 40W is actually a boot request, there is a pretty good list actually in the source for the pserial utility
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[22:36:49] <ds2> prpplague: I know what it is...trying to map that to a ES version
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[23:26:05] <joelagnel> do the pre-xM beagleboards ship with an SDCard or do they have only pre-programmed NAND
[23:26:31] <joelagnel> ?
[23:30:49] <joelagnel> rephrasing, do the pre-xM beagleboards ship with a programmed SDCard?
[23:34:28] <ds2> no
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[23:38:52] <joelagnel> ds2, ok thanks
[23:49:44] <joelagnel> I think the elinux wiki is quite misleading when it talks about "usb boot" and "serial boot" (http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Serial_boot)
[23:50:18] <joelagnel> In the sense that it might lead one into thinking that these tools are for booting a Kernel
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[23:51:16] <joelagnel> when, they really interact with bootrom to download a first stage boot loader
[23:51:58] <rcn-ee> actually isn't u-boot 2nd stage? ;)
[23:53:33] <joelagnel> rcn-ee, yeah, I was more like referring to x-loader?
[23:54:36] <rcn-ee> i believe that section is talking about loading u-boot from over serial/usb via using the internal (nand) bootloader..
[23:55:43] <joelagnel> yeah I think that is so when it talks about ukermit
[23:56:11] <joelagnel> but all other references to pserial, pusb, the "linux c utility" are for bootrom (AFAIK)
[23:56:32] <rcn-ee> alot of that is from 2008 wonder if any of it still works. .;)
[23:57:16] <joelagnel> yeah, few links are dead as well
[23:58:03] <joelagnel> alot of it seems to need to be cleaned up or rewritten
[23:58:34] <rcn-ee> we still don't have any xM info in that base page either.. figured someone would have done that..