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  • [02:19:54] <joelagnel> jkridner, hi
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  • [03:07:07] <thurbad> meh, been getting told by xchat that I need an ssl connection for this server all day
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  • [05:13:25] <mateen_maldar> It is possible to write a character driver for beagle board and integrate it to Lenvoa s10 3t notebook?
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  • [05:14:13] <mateen_maldar> Does anyone has pointers to my question?
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  • [05:46:39] <hell> hello. does TPS65950BZXN can safely replaced to TPS65950A2ZXN? I have a beagle with, seems like, broken one.
  • [05:46:53] <hell> 0b is discontinued, as i understand
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  • [08:26:55] <alper> hello everyone i have some problems with beagleboard xm + android, anyone can help?
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  • [08:28:45] <alper> ?
  • [08:28:47] <av500> without you asking a question, no
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  • [08:29:39] <av500> jkridner: http://www.mahdiyusuf.com/post/6176918750/survival-guide-irc
  • [08:29:53] <av500> can you link that or even better take parts of it before the webirc link?
  • [08:31:03] <alper> usb mouse and keyboard is not working on beagleboard xM, and i use android froyo
  • [08:32:02] <alper> i also tried self powered usb hub but still not working
  • [08:32:13] <jkridner> av500; k
  • [08:32:28] <koen> hey jkridner is already awake
  • [08:32:43] * koen combs his hair and sits up straight
  • [08:32:43] <av500> or not yet asleep
  • [08:32:57] <jkridner> butI'm about to go afk.
  • [08:33:33] <jkridner> I'll be in Chicago today.
  • [08:33:35] <jkridner> just leaving now.
  • [08:34:46] <jkridner> check out http://beagleboard.org/chat
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  • [08:36:18] <av500> jkridner: misses: BOLD, RED and BLINK
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  • [08:38:00] <hell> shit, /me unsolder all tps*, but sc is still present.
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  • [08:39:53] <thurbad> are you sure you removed the tps65... ?
  • [08:40:11] <thurbad> if you remove that one part you should get a lot of things failing
  • [08:41:22] <thurbad> and why are you removing it in the first place?
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  • [08:43:09] <av500> thurbad: always good to start from a "clean" PCB
  • [08:43:42] <thurbad> av500, re: red bold and blink.. I see you've encountered one of my former clients
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  • [08:49:57] <thurbad> alper, you shouldn't need a hub for the xM for low powered devices
  • [08:51:04] <hell> thurbad: because all of power regulators are heating and has short circut... now i checking what capacitors are still has a sc on both ends
  • [08:51:39] <hell> i start from small tps, of course
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  • [08:53:04] <thurbad> what are you using the acronym SC to signify? short circuit?
  • [08:53:09] <alper> thurbad, i tried with and without self powered hub, but in both ways usb devices fails to work.
  • [08:53:33] <thurbad> alper does android have dmesg or an equivalent?
  • [08:53:37] <av500> sure
  • [08:53:53] <alper> i have bootup messages
  • [08:53:58] <thurbad> sorry, dunno much about the android OS
  • [08:54:09] <av500> thurbad: its linux
  • [08:54:09] <hell> thurbad: yes, short circuit
  • [08:54:21] <alper> i can send boot up messages but it is quite long to paste it here
  • [08:54:33] <av500> guess why pastebin was invented
  • [08:54:44] <thurbad> type dmesg|grep -i usb
  • [08:54:48] <alper> just a sec i was pasting it
  • [08:55:07] <thurbad> see if that is a little more relavent
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  • [08:55:23] <alper> here it is http://paste.pocoo.org/show/401496/
  • [08:55:33] <thurbad> also lsusb may be helpfull
  • [08:57:17] <alper> dmesg|grep -i usb resulted noting
  • [08:57:22] <hell> now i have VBAT short circuited to ground.
  • [08:57:44] <thurbad> at a quick glance it doesn't appear to be seeing the smsc95xxc chip
  • [08:58:27] <thurbad> err... disregard the extraneous c after smsc95xx
  • [09:02:14] <thurbad> interestingly it /is/ registering the driver for it
  • [09:02:18] <alper> is that means, this android version is not supporting it for beagleboard xM version C,
  • [09:02:34] <alper> hmm,
  • [09:03:07] <thurbad> ah version C.. I think the switched the power enable polarity on the usb port
  • [09:03:42] <thurbad> is the usb power enabled led lit?
  • [09:04:04] <alper> nope, i also verified that no power on usb ports
  • [09:04:23] <alper> that is why i tried self powered hubs but end up fail again
  • [09:04:55] <thurbad> the chip itself isn't even powered up probably in that case
  • [09:05:31] <thurbad> does androiduse a standard kernel?
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  • [09:08:56] <alper> interestingly i realized that chip led actually is enabled but very very little light coming on and it get off sometimes,
  • [09:09:22] <alper> about the kernel i really dont know if it is standart, i used pre-build images downloaded from here http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_tii/TI_Android_DevKit/02_00_00/index_FDS.html
  • [09:10:52] <alper> but you are probably right, they could switch power enable
  • [09:11:27] <alper> by the way in angstorm, everything work fine.
  • [09:13:45] <thurbad> can you try the kernel that angstrom distributes with the android rootfs?
  • [09:13:58] <thurbad> dunno if that will work or not but worth a try
  • [09:14:43] <alper> i believe i might have found the solution http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/issues/detail?id=100
  • [09:16:10] <thurbad> yeah, if you want to build your own kernel
  • [09:16:34] <av500> thurbad: you need the android patches in the kernel
  • [09:16:43] <av500> stock angstrom will not work
  • [09:16:54] <av500> alper: so, patch and rebuild the kernel
  • [09:17:39] <thurbad> ah, that's kind of what I figured, but I didn't knwo for certain
  • [09:18:28] <alper> okey i'll do it after lunch
  • [09:18:42] <alper> thanks for help,
  • [09:18:53] <thurbad> beagle is running out of version detection GPIOs
  • [09:19:12] <thurbad> up to 6 out of the possible 8
  • [09:19:50] <av500> thurbad: yeah, its a known issue here at $job too :)
  • [09:20:52] <av500> thurbad: one can always make a dual slope AD with 2 gpios and then measure R values :)
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  • [09:46:18] <aarti> hi all, i have replaced ffmpeg with libav in my customized recipe and on beagle board i tried to compile my code which is using avcodec.h . it fails with missing avcodec.h header file
  • [09:46:51] * kaio (~kaio@fedora/kaio) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
  • [09:47:12] <aarti> there is nothing like libavcodec in /usr/include
  • [09:47:18] <av500> hmm
  • [09:47:27] <aarti> which package i nedd to install
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  • [09:54:32] <aarti> any idea?
  • [09:54:46] <av500> libavcodec is part of libav
  • [09:54:52] <av500> no need for another package
  • [09:55:30] <aarti> then y it does not conatain that header file?
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  • [09:56:28] <aarti> when i was using ffmpeg and ffmpeg-dev packages, it was not complaining
  • [09:56:51] <woglinde> libav?
  • [09:56:56] <av500> yes
  • [09:59:17] <aarti> i have also included libavcodec52-dev
  • [09:59:29] <koen> and libav-dev ?
  • [10:00:01] <hell> ok, i got it. usb host(u7) burned. no short circuits now, and 4 u for replace(
  • [10:01:00] <aarti> koen, i think there is no package called libav-dev
  • [10:01:08] <aarti> i chked
  • [10:01:14] <woglinde> haha lol
  • [10:01:16] <woglinde> .net is dead
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  • [10:01:32] <woglinde> windows ui's with javascript
  • [10:01:39] <woglinde> +8
  • [10:02:42] <av500> and flash?
  • [10:02:56] <woglinde> flash is adobe
  • [10:03:10] <av500> really=?
  • [10:03:14] <woglinde> no
  • [10:03:16] <woglinde> joke
  • [10:03:19] <woglinde> big joke
  • [10:03:22] <woglinde> zeroday
  • [10:04:25] <koen> aarti: then what is this: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=libav-dev ?
  • [10:04:52] <koen> I thought flash was from macromedia
  • [10:05:08] <woglinde> hm is it still the same codebase?
  • [10:06:04] <av500> codebase is too nice a word for it
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  • [10:08:04] <Garagoth> Good morning.
  • [10:08:28] <jacekowski> morning
  • [10:08:46] <woglinde> hi garagoth and jacekowski
  • [10:09:05] <Garagoth> I have a problem with my BB-xM... few minutes ago system was working... I powered it off to replace SD card.. and now it does not work.
  • [10:09:13] <Garagoth> POWER led is on
  • [10:09:44] <Garagoth> HUB POWER and overvoltage blinks one
  • [10:09:47] <Garagoth> once*
  • [10:09:53] <woglinde> serial?
  • [10:10:07] <Garagoth> I disconnected everything from board.
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  • [10:10:26] <woglinde> without the serial console
  • [10:10:28] <woglinde> no help
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  • [10:12:00] <Garagoth> ok
  • [10:12:09] <Garagoth> on serial one thing apears
  • [10:12:11] <Garagoth> 60
  • [10:12:29] <Garagoth> and that is all
  • [10:12:36] <woglinde> hm that looks like it cannt find xloader
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  • [10:15:01] <Garagoth> so what are my options now?
  • [10:15:01] <woglinde> sorry re
  • [10:15:22] <koen> hmmm
  • [10:15:28] <koen> http://www.spundhan.com/ isn;t making friends
  • [10:15:36] <koen> forging my signed-off-by lines
  • [10:16:41] <av500> ...Spundhan is ably supported by highly motivated and intellectual individuals having a combined experience of over 25 years in the field of embedded systems, Linux, Android, Hardware design, manufacturing and much more....
  • [10:16:53] <av500> lets say they have 25 employees
  • [10:17:05] <woglinde> If you have a specific project that needs to be pushed upstream into the open source or you have a specific requirement for the Linux kernel,
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  • [10:17:23] <woglinde> hm to which opensource project they pushed something?
  • [10:17:54] <koen> woglinde: they didn't seem to have pushed anything yet
  • [10:18:02] <koen> but their git-send-email cc:ed me :)
  • [10:18:17] <koen> as I side effect of forging my SOB
  • [10:18:32] <koen> I wonder why anyone would forge my SOB for uboot stuff, but they did
  • [10:18:41] <av500> c&p terror?
  • [10:19:36] <koen> it looks like they took one of my patches, put their name on it and squashed in a seconds patch
  • [10:19:53] <av500> patch-jacking
  • [10:19:55] <koen> but they weren't smart enough to vet the SOBs in the commit message itself
  • [10:20:16] <koen> broad generalization ahead:
  • [10:20:40] <koen> I didn't expect much better for $random indian code sweatshop
  • [10:20:46] <woglinde> *g*
  • [10:20:55] <av500> koen: CC us on your reply email :)
  • [10:21:01] <woglinde> hm at least they has some knowledge about git
  • [10:21:04] <av500> mention TI lawyers
  • [10:21:07] <woglinde> args have
  • [10:21:16] <av500> woglinde: for 25ys now
  • [10:21:49] <av500> btw, I am still looking to hire an embedded dev with 5ys android experience :)
  • [10:21:59] <koen> people in the western world have learned to cover their tracks better
  • [10:22:12] <woglinde> av500 really?
  • [10:22:20] <av500> interested?
  • [10:22:31] <av500> woglinde: we also use uclibc :)
  • [10:22:32] <woglinde> hm I only have 2 month exp
  • [10:22:43] <woglinde> av500 sure some ancidents works
  • [10:22:46] * koen guesses android isn't 5 years old yet
  • [10:22:52] <woglinde> from the dinasour area
  • [10:22:59] <woglinde> args versions
  • [10:23:01] <woglinde> damnit
  • [10:23:03] <woglinde> to hoz
  • [10:23:07] <av500> lol
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  • [10:24:10] <av500> koen: goog bought android/danger in 2005
  • [10:24:42] <av500> ex danger
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  • [10:25:11] <woglinde> the first versions of dalvik were based on jamvm
  • [10:25:40] <av500> see, you as a java and uclibc fan are a perfect fit
  • [10:26:38] <woglinde> hm I am not a java fan
  • [10:26:45] <woglinde> but I can code it a bit
  • [10:27:21] <woglinde> and I can build openjdk crosscompiled
  • [10:27:33] <woglinde> and I am the only one running it on uclibc
  • [10:33:03] <Garagoth> Does Angstrom have newer kerels then .32 in repository somewhere?
  • [10:33:12] <Garagoth> kernels*
  • [10:38:19] <woglinde> hm dont know about repos
  • [10:38:37] <aarti> koen, thnx i have to upgrade my packages
  • [10:38:41] <woglinde> but latest oe master and ti layer have .49
  • [10:38:55] <jacekowski> what about new 3.0 kernels
  • [10:40:30] <Garagoth> woglinde: So to get something new on BB I have to bitbake it?
  • [10:40:49] <woglinde> ups .39
  • [10:40:51] <woglinde> sorry
  • [10:40:53] <woglinde> not .49
  • [10:40:57] <av500> woglinde: 3.9?
  • [10:41:29] <Garagoth> yes, .39, figured it out ;-)
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  • [10:56:53] <koen> Garagoth: no, you can get a more recent rootfs from narcissus
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  • [11:07:04] <woglinde> koen what has narcissus now included?
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  • [11:12:04] <koen> woglinde: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/30
  • [11:12:31] <woglinde> bah
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  • [11:33:47] <Tryhard> Hi, I'm trying to re-image a Beagleboard xm SD card with xMc_4_25 using zcat and dd commands. I'm totally green, I get "dd: opening 'media/BOOT/': is a directory". I take it I'm not referencing my SD card (BOOT) correctly??
  • [11:34:05] <woglinde> ?
  • [11:34:41] <av500> Tryhard: yes
  • [11:34:49] <Tryhard> zcat BeagleboardxM/xMc_4_25.zip | dd of=/dev/your/sd/card bs=8225280...........From the circuitco page
  • [11:34:50] <av500> /dev/sd something
  • [11:35:01] <woglinde> zip?
  • [11:35:09] <woglinde> what page?
  • [11:35:26] <Tryhard> http://www.circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Circuitco_Support_Wiki
  • [11:36:57] <woglinde> use this http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/
  • [11:38:12] <Tryhard> av500: If i browse 'File System/dev' I cant see sd anywhere!
  • [11:38:35] <av500> but you have a /dev?
  • [11:38:44] <Tryhard> Indeed
  • [11:38:46] <av500> with lotsa files inside?
  • [11:38:55] <Tryhard> Yes!
  • [11:39:06] <av500> and none start with sd...?
  • [11:39:12] <av500> sda, sdb etc
  • [11:40:20] <Tryhard> Seems there is a dev dir inside a dev dir, 2nd one has those
  • [11:40:36] <woglinde> *sigh*
  • [11:41:50] <Tryhard> Yeah sorry to wheeze on your guys gig. Gotta start somewhere this is driving me nuts! Kicked my computer before, took out my WiFi card! Made some satisfying sounds tho
  • [11:42:18] <woglinde> http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/ is fool proofed
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  • [11:55:03] <Tryhard> av500: So how can I tell which 'sd' I should be using?
  • [11:55:46] <woglinde> http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/ isnt fooled proof?
  • [11:57:30] <koen> woglinde: it doesn't magically write to the SD card
  • [11:58:04] <Tryhard> Umm if that will generate me a zipped image then I've already got that. The SD card writing is where I'm stuck.
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  • [11:59:49] <woglinde> koen fix it!
  • [11:59:52] * woglinde runs
  • [12:00:34] <av500> Tryhard: run dmesg after you plug the sdcard to your pc
  • [12:00:35] <mlip> (cross-posting from #oe) - anyone can verify that the bbappend approach documented at yoctoproject works with the meta-ti layer? as soon as I include FILESEXTRAPATHS bitbake tries to copy configs/* from my layer
  • [12:00:35] <alper> anyone knows how can i install arm-eabi toolchain to ubuntu?
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  • [12:01:39] <woglinde> apt-get install gcc
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  • [12:58:33] <UMAR> hello all
  • [12:59:05] <UMAR> i wonder if anyone knows about free windows ce 6.0 irc chat
  • [12:59:58] <av500> ???
  • [13:00:08] <av500> a free chat?
  • [13:00:14] <av500> or a free windows ce 6.0?
  • [13:00:53] <UMAR> erm freee chat just like this to discuss ce stuff
  • [13:01:49] <topfs2> isn't ce 6.0 kindof dead?
  • [13:02:04] <mru> I hope so
  • [13:02:11] <av500> topfs2: well
  • [13:02:31] <UMAR> I have a serious CE problem and dont know the answer to so i thought to give this a try whilst being on ferry to stranrear
  • [13:03:05] <UMAR> it might be but i need to get few drivers working on it for a customer so no choice
  • [13:04:51] <UMAR> this internet connection on the ferry sucks man so so slow
  • [13:05:16] <av500> i know no CE specific irc channels
  • [13:05:29] <av500> CE is all closed and $$$ :)
  • [13:05:44] <av500> here you can get only free ridicule
  • [13:05:44] <UMAR> sugar...
  • [13:06:35] <woglinde> for ce problems you have to call MS
  • [13:06:45] <mru> maybe there's a web forum somewhere
  • [13:06:58] <mru> the kind where signatures dwarfing actual content are norm
  • [13:07:11] <UMAR> do you know what disk format is which is recognised by ce like fat or fat 32 etc. and how to make a bootaable sata disk
  • [13:07:29] <av500> beagle has no sata
  • [13:07:46] <UMAR> MS can su** they are hopeless for support
  • [13:07:55] <av500> so it cant from sata either
  • [13:08:01] <av500> so it can't boot from sata either
  • [13:08:05] <UMAR> true..
  • [13:08:24] <UMAR> anyway thats for that...
  • [13:08:36] <av500> otherwise the usual omap3/BB booting rules apply
  • [13:08:59] <UMAR> i'll try to enjoy this bulshit ferry rie than.
  • [13:09:07] <UMAR> nothing elsse to do
  • [13:09:26] <UMAR> yes i trid that but did not work..
  • [13:09:35] <av500> what did not work?
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  • [13:10:24] <UMAR> BB booting methoid applie to sata disk for ce on linux machine
  • [13:10:44] <av500> the BB has no sata
  • [13:10:52] <av500> so it cannot boot from sata
  • [13:10:58] <woglinde> maybe sata disk connected via usb?
  • [13:11:11] <woglinde> but ce is such crap on beagle
  • [13:11:16] <av500> woglinde: it can be punch cards on the other side
  • [13:11:42] <av500> UMAR: but BB cannot boot from a usb disk either
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  • [13:11:51] <av500> you have to boot from SD
  • [13:11:54] <UMAR> yes but not an option as dont have usb slot.
  • [13:12:03] <av500> ???
  • [13:12:28] <woglinde> umar sure you have a beagleboard?
  • [13:12:37] <woglinde> not something else?
  • [13:12:51] <woglinde> beagleboard as in beagleboard.org?
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  • [13:13:13] <av500> maybe the PC104beagle?
  • [13:13:17] <UMAR> i have a tochscreen terminal for a supermarket and it needs to run windows ce. it has ATOM intel 1.6ghz processor wih bios and it needs to boot ce of sata disk
  • [13:13:25] <av500> lol
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  • [13:13:28] <mru> maybe he has a plank from the HMS Beagle
  • [13:13:31] <av500> and why do you ask here?
  • [13:13:51] <av500> time to walk that plank now
  • [13:13:59] <woglinde> lool
  • [13:14:00] <UMAR> its not BB guys
  • [13:14:01] <woglinde> atom
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  • [13:14:21] <av500> UMAR: well, then read the channel topci
  • [13:14:23] <av500> UMAR: well, then read the channel topic
  • [13:14:26] <UMAR> yes
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  • [13:14:38] <UMAR> d410
  • [13:14:50] <av500> we don't care
  • [13:14:57] <UMAR> lol
  • [13:15:03] <UMAR> yes its bb
  • [13:15:15] <alper> omg
  • [13:15:18] <UMAR> but i thought someoneee here might know
  • [13:15:29] <av500> unlikely
  • [13:15:38] <mru> you might as well ask in #netbsd-furries
  • [13:15:50] <av500> http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+CE+support+and+porting
  • [13:15:55] <UMAR> well i guessedd that lol..
  • [13:15:56] <woglinde> or ubuntu-arm
  • [13:16:12] <UMAR> this keyboard is shit man keeps skipping my letters
  • [13:16:21] <mdp> you might get away with questions on care and feeding of fleshy beagles
  • [13:16:34] <UMAR> i doubt it hey will know here
  • [13:17:09] <UMAR> alright lets not talk aboutce than.
  • [13:17:20] <UMAR> lets talk about BB
  • [13:17:30] <mru> why? you don't have one
  • [13:18:04] <UMAR> i ccan buikd omap kernl from terminal window on ubuntu but on eclipse it fails.
  • [13:18:16] <UMAR> i have xm version
  • [13:18:19] <woglinde> *g*
  • [13:18:27] <woglinde> kernel compiling with eclipse
  • [13:18:42] <woglinde> I doubt there is eclipse plugin for it
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  • [13:19:02] * mdp wants to see UMAR index the kernel with the crappy eclipse indexer
  • [13:19:13] <koen> use the beagle indexer ;)
  • [13:19:19] <mdp> heh
  • [13:20:54] <av500> UMAR: since when is ecplipse a compiler?
  • [13:22:25] <mdp> UMAR, http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC
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  • [13:22:56] <mdp> success
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  • [13:23:56] <mdp> koen, so, any luck with AP mode? assuming you meant these instructions: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM37x_Wireless_Connectivity_NLCP_WLAN_AP_Terminal
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  • [13:24:26] <koen> I opened that page a few minutes ago
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  • [13:24:38] <koen> and I had to find a switchport for the xm to plugin in to
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  • [13:24:50] <koen> ssh doesn't work so hot when you bring down wifi
  • [13:24:57] <mdp> heh
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  • [13:25:20] <UMAR> sorry boys this connection sucks
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  • [13:26:20] <mru> the connection isn't the only thing that sucks
  • [13:26:48] <UMAR> lol is it so what else than
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  • [13:28:58] <UMAR> what is the best way of customizin bb imag like i dont want any firefox,games, utilitis, etc just a desktopnothing else no packages etc
  • [13:29:33] <av500> narcissus
  • [13:30:06] <UMAR> alright
  • [13:31:07] <UMAR> isnt it online building package
  • [13:31:41] <UMAR> like you select what you want in the image online and it builds it for you
  • [13:31:54] <mdp> yes
  • [13:32:35] <jacekowski> it's DIY
  • [13:32:46] <UMAR> how do it do it without that either using terminal window
  • [13:32:59] <UMAR> cn i nt do it using bitbake
  • [13:33:14] <UMAR> but do not know how
  • [13:33:49] <koen> mdp: narcissus doesn't build packages, it pulls them from the feeds
  • [13:34:28] <UMAR> alrihgt how can i do it from terminl without using narcissus
  • [13:36:54] <koen> mdp: AP mode: hostapd doesn't understand 'disassoc_low_ack=1'
  • [13:36:54] <mdp> koen, but for purposes of his question, it builds an image :)
  • [13:37:21] <mdp> koen, yeah, I would say it would have to be the fastest OE system *ever* to build from source :)
  • [13:37:45] <koen> mdp: shared-state :)
  • [13:38:17] <mdp> I recall mentor's version of that still being too slow for me
  • [13:39:19] <UMAR> well mdp you could have told me that for my understanding.
  • [13:39:19] <UMAR> nevermind
  • [13:39:30] <UMAR> thnks Keon
  • [13:39:49] <UMAR> :-)
  • [13:39:57] <koen> mdp: the current sstate version is IO limited
  • [13:40:50] <mdp> I suspect I'm due to put together a better build box at some point
  • [13:41:35] <mdp> previous employer had a reasonable amount of cpus and iscsi nodes behind their vmware esc setup which worked pretty well
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  • [13:42:40] <mdp> koen, I think most of what I hit was early sstate implementation bugs..where it improperly had cache misses on a lot of stuff
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  • [13:42:45] <koen> mdp: hostapd is running, but I don't see the network showing up
  • [13:42:48] <mdp> koen, that was frustrating
  • [13:43:27] <mdp> koen, I suppose you are keeping it simple in open mode
  • [13:43:41] <koen> "Connect to non Secured network"
  • [13:44:01] <koen> I suppose it doesn't work with hostapd 0.7.3
  • [13:44:10] <koen> since the conffile in the wiki doesn't get accepted
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  • [13:44:34] <mdp> fwiw, disassoc_low_ack is of no concern
  • [13:44:46] <koen> I guessed as much
  • [13:44:55] <mlip> koen - since you're the maintainer of meta-ti - maybe you can help me out with this http://pastebin.com/85WJ2jqG failure when using .bbappend on the linux-omap_2.6.39 kernel
  • [13:45:39] <koen> but still a red flag when the wiki doesn't mention versions and the configs are wrong
  • [13:45:42] <mdp> koen, yeah, I haven't tried this yet, still sorting out slot-based SDIO issues on various platforms
  • [13:45:55] <koen> mlip: not without seeing the bbappend
  • [13:45:57] <mdp> koen, yeah, I would suspect a version issue
  • [13:46:26] <mlip> koen, http://pastebin.com/wrMtcv4W , plain defconfig "override"
  • [13:46:51] <mlip> like proposed in the yocto docs
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  • [13:47:28] <koen> mlip: you're running into the same bugs as me :(
  • [13:47:54] <koen> mlip: in meta-ti it refuses to pick up the files/configs dir
  • [13:48:02] <koen> mlip: I think you are seeing the same
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  • [13:48:15] <koen> mlip: can you file a bug for that in the yocto bugzilla?
  • [13:48:50] <mlip> koen, somehow, it tries to pick up the ${PN}/configs from the bbappend dir
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  • [13:49:22] <mlip> is bugzilla "faster" than ml ? ;)
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  • [13:50:37] <koen> mlip: dunno, lately yocto patches don't appear on the ml, but only in bugzilla
  • [13:50:56] <mlip> koen, then I will just file a bug
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  • [14:08:40] <mlip> koen, http://bugzilla.pokylinux.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1139 , maybe you can add further information if you've already investigated ;)
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  • [14:29:30] <sakoman> koen: do you know if TI has plans to fix the nand issues in mainline linux?
  • [14:31:02] <koen> sakoman: if they know about it, yes
  • [14:31:20] <koen> sakoman: my part of TI doesn't really look at mainline :(
  • [14:31:50] <sakoman> how are you dealing with it?
  • [14:31:52] <koen> sakoman: but c5 is going to ship with .39, so someone at TI needs to get it fixed
  • [14:32:10] <sakoman> good :-)
  • [14:32:50] <sakoman> as far as I can tell it got broken around 3.6.35
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  • [14:41:24] <sakoman> koen: does it make sense to enable smart reflex on 35XX and 37XX? I seem to recall that they might be lacking programming of required registers??
  • [14:43:01] <koen> sakoman: 3530 ES3.x should have the fuses programmed and 37xx doesn't really work without on higher freqs
  • [14:43:23] <sakoman> koen: ok, thanks!
  • [14:43:55] <sakoman> do you know what happens if sr is enabled and required fuses are not programmed?
  • [14:44:44] <av500> it explodes!
  • [14:44:51] <sakoman> :-)
  • [14:45:45] <djlewis> gm guys
  • [14:47:04] <mdp> koen, right, the people that have the responsibility to look at mainline don't look at mainline :)
  • [14:48:55] <alper> av500, thurbad, this solution http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/issues/detail?id=100 is not working for usb problem in xM version C
  • [14:49:13] <alper> i build kernel and boot it right now usb led is on.
  • [14:49:27] <alper> but devices such as mouse and keyboard still not working
  • [14:49:47] <av500> and boot log shows usb or not?
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  • [14:52:24] <alper> let me check
  • [14:56:16] <alper> here http://paste.pocoo.org/show/401629/, i didnot see much difference correct if i'm wrong
  • [14:57:33] <koen> sakoman: if the fuses aren't programmed SR won't do anything
  • [14:57:40] <koen> sakoman: unless you force it to use the builtin values
  • [14:57:59] <sakoman> good, sounds like that is safe :-)
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  • [15:07:35] <koen> beagljuice is already at 53 minutes
  • [15:08:00] <koen> so that makes it usefull for presentations already
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  • [15:12:06] <joelagnel> hi
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  • [15:27:57] <alper> av500, i mistakenly send you wrong output here is last boot up log http://paste.pocoo.org/show/401658/
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  • [15:41:15] <xxiao> gosh
  • [15:41:40] <xxiao> guess what, the ex-busybox maintainer is to share my office today
  • [15:42:00] <xxiao> we ran out office so everyone is doubled
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  • [15:55:35] <koen> xxiao: rob?
  • [16:00:53] <xxiao> koen: yes
  • [16:00:59] <xxiao> i think he lives in austin
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  • [16:13:17] <koen> sakoman: what's the failure mode for nand when using e.g. ubifs?
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  • [16:13:40] <sakoman> koen: so far I have just looked at jffs2
  • [16:13:55] <sakoman> that seems to work as long as there are no bad blocks
  • [16:14:17] <sakoman> if there are bad blocks in the file system area, then the mkfs.jffs2 will fail
  • [16:14:29] * koen remembers seeing something about ECC in PSP slides for their .37 patchset
  • [16:14:50] <koen> it doesn't take a lot for jffs2 to fail, though
  • [16:14:57] <sakoman> so something seems to be broken in bad block handling
  • [16:15:16] <mdp> koen, you mean in relation to the bch 4/8-bit support?
  • [16:15:25] <sakoman> the TI nand guy claims it works with hwecc (in a list email)
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  • [16:16:08] <sakoman> all the reports of nand issues that I have followed up on are systems with bad blocks in the rootfs area
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  • [16:45:25] <Crofton> koen, what fan did you get?
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  • [16:47:40] <Crofton> bother, my version string for uhd sucks.
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  • [16:55:42] <jkridner|work> joelagnel: you taking a look at the C5 memory issue? do you have the part # for the new memory?
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  • [17:09:51] <koen> Crofton: cheapest "silent" one I could get
  • [17:10:05] <koen> Crofton: 20mm thick one, works reasonably well
  • [17:10:20] <Crofton> I am at GHQ
  • [17:10:25] <Crofton> we talked about the fan
  • [17:10:33] <Crofton> apparently they are regarded as silent here
  • [17:10:48] <Crofton> but that is compared to some really noisy fan
  • [17:11:02] <koen> the "silent" one I installed is a lot quieter that the factory one
  • [17:11:10] <Crofton> yeah
  • [17:11:16] <Crofton> now I am noticing it
  • [17:11:23] <koen> but I shutdown the e100 this morning since it wasn't quiet enough
  • [17:11:46] <koen> or rather, the pitch got under my nerves
  • [17:11:56] * koen mixed some metaphors there
  • [17:11:58] <Crofton> heh
  • [17:12:06] <ka6sox-away> heh
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  • [17:12:16] <Crofton> you need to run a pirate sm base staion
  • [17:12:34] <ka6sox-away> arrr
  • [17:13:00] <koen> Crofton: yeah
  • [17:13:02] * ka6sox-away has a pirate fm base station :D
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  • [17:13:22] <Crofton> those are so last century
  • [17:13:34] <ka6sox-away> indeed.
  • [17:14:40] <koen> Crofton: I still need to figure out how those usrp -> aerial adapters are called
  • [17:15:42] <koen> Crofton: these ones: http://toma-electronics.nl/contents/media/1%20premium%20coax%20male%20-%20female.jpg
  • [17:16:12] <Crofton> the front panel ones are sma
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  • [17:16:34] <Crofton> those look like f connectors
  • [17:17:23] <Crofton> koen, what sort of cable are you looking for
  • [17:17:27] <mru> those are not f connectors
  • [17:17:30] <mru> f connectors have threads
  • [17:17:35] <Crofton> I will be in Brussel in like 2.5 weeks
  • [17:17:38] <mru> those look like rca connectors
  • [17:17:40] <Crofton> good point
  • [17:17:45] <Crofton> although I have seen push ons
  • [17:17:50] <Crofton> yeah
  • [17:17:57] <Crofton> .me is multi tasking
  • [17:18:00] <mru> me too, but they also have a thinner centre pin
  • [17:18:13] <mru> often just the centre wire in a coax
  • [17:23:17] <mru> not rca either actually, the rca pin is longer
  • [17:23:40] <ka6sox-away> someone got a picture?
  • [17:23:47] <ka6sox-away> I'll see if I can ID it.
  • [17:23:57] <mru> link above
  • [17:24:43] <adj> koen: those connectors are IEC-something
  • [17:25:13] <adj> IEC 169-2 propably
  • [17:25:45] <ka6sox-away> ya, we don't use them here much
  • [17:25:55] <adj> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_aerial_plug
  • [17:27:18] <ka6sox-away> like our SO-239...impedance matching issues...
  • [17:27:21] <ka6sox-away> bummers
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  • [17:28:59] <joelagnel> jkridner, sorry I was out for lunch. In answer to your question: No I am currently working on the demo, not sure what is "part #" ?
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  • [17:59:51] <koen> mdp/sakoman: how would I use hwecc mode for ubifs?
  • [18:02:14] <woglinde> jore
  • [18:05:41] <wmat> Luca256: did you fix your DNS issue?
  • [18:07:21] <koen> s/mime support in ios5, nice
  • [18:07:34] <_av500_> Crofton: these are german tv antenna connectors
  • [18:07:41] <_av500_> not rca
  • [18:08:10] <_av500_> what adj said
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  • [18:09:06] <koen> dutch as well!
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  • [18:09:32] <jimpanse> hey guys
  • [18:09:55] <woglinde> he jimpanse
  • [18:10:32] <jimpanse> is it possible to speed up the opencv library on the BB?
  • [18:11:41] <koen> if you're using angstrom it's about as fast as it an get already
  • [18:13:08] <woglinde> koen if he install opencv-dsp?
  • [18:13:09] <jimpanse> yes, im using angstrom.. the HoughLines() function takes more than 1000ms on an 640x480 image
  • [18:13:41] <jimpanse> i need it to be < 100ms
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  • [18:13:46] <jimpanse> :-)
  • [18:13:56] <woglinde> try opencv-dsp
  • [18:14:07] <woglinde> but you have to compile it via oe
  • [18:14:35] <jimpanse> mhh ok, is it this one? http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/2010_Projects/OpenCV
  • [18:14:48] <woglinde> yes
  • [18:14:52] <koen> woglinde: opencv-dsp won't help
  • [18:14:58] <woglinde> koen hm why?
  • [18:15:06] <woglinde> c6accel than?
  • [18:15:13] <Luca256> wmat: my DNS issue?
  • [18:15:21] <koen> woglinde: the only thing that would help is the c6accel stuff TI isn't publishing
  • [18:15:40] <koen> woglinde: there's luca26 adn luca256 :)
  • [18:15:42] <koen> ehm
  • [18:15:45] <jimpanse> i think in opencv-dsp there are only few functions implemented
  • [18:15:46] <koen> wmat, that is
  • [18:16:15] <woglinde> luca what?
  • [18:16:30] <wmat> to many Lucas ;)
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  • [18:16:31] <Luca256> luca26?! :o
  • [18:16:45] <woglinde> ah
  • [18:16:51] <Luca256> I think I can sue this other luca :)
  • [18:16:52] <woglinde> koen hm thats bad
  • [18:17:11] <Luca256> Like Apple suing Amazon's AppStore :)
  • [18:18:38] <jimpanse> so, no chance for me to get it running faster?
  • [18:18:56] <koen> beat on TI to publish that c6accel stuff
  • [18:19:26] <jimpanse> okay :-)
  • [18:19:28] <woglinde> jimpanse you could write your own dsp-accel code
  • [18:19:30] <jimpanse> thx anyway!
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  • [18:24:50] <joelagnel> koen, could you give me a hint at where I could start looking for the RAM issue with C5? Do you suspect a problem in dram_init in U-boot?
  • [18:24:51] <woglinde> koen whats so nice on the unpublished c6accel code?
  • [18:28:43] <_av500_> its professional
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  • [18:30:52] <woglinde> hi chase
  • [18:31:05] <woglinde> av500 like SAP?
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  • [18:36:48] <koen> joelagnel: x-load
  • [18:37:05] <koen> woglinde: it has a tweaked API that matches opencv
  • [18:37:23] <koen> woglinde: so you don't have to worry about 8bit grey vs 16bit grey, etc
  • [18:38:44] <woglinde> hm that sounds nice
  • [18:38:47] <woglinde> to bad really
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  • [18:42:40] <koen> all I get is "yes, we're going to release it soon"
  • [18:42:55] <koen> so, like I said, beat on TI to get a prerelease out
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  • [18:46:29] <joelagnel> koen, sure. I read on the mailing list that C5 had a modified u-boot so I thought I would look there as well
  • [18:47:09] <koen> don't believe everything you read on the mailinglist
  • [18:47:21] <koen> there are *no* different versions for c5
  • [18:48:24] <joelagnel> koen, ok :)
  • [18:49:01] <woglinde> hm it was not a blog or wiki?
  • [18:49:38] <koen> or a bliki?
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  • [18:50:53] <koen> joelagnel: there are about a handfull C5s out there, I have one, kridner has one, joe have one, steve k has one and gerald has the rest
  • [18:51:14] <koen> joelagnel: so info from other people about c5 shouldn't be trusted
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  • [18:51:29] <joelagnel> koen, actually jkridner posted on mailing list
  • [18:52:21] <woglinde> *g*
  • [18:52:48] <djlewis_> uhoh, jkridner 's credentials are in flux now ;)
  • [18:52:53] <woglinde> good he left some minutes again
  • [18:52:56] <woglinde> ups ago
  • [18:53:15] <woglinde> djlewis jkridner is the boss of koen
  • [18:53:35] <koen> he signs my paycheck
  • [18:53:51] <woglinde> best answer now is none answer
  • [18:53:52] <joelagnel> hehe
  • [18:58:10] <djlewis_> koen: in that case, whatever jkridner says is good ;)
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  • [19:10:24] <_av500_> djlewis_: meh, we need yo to keep things in perspective!
  • [19:10:27] <_av500_> you
  • [19:11:23] <koen> and for the pizza
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  • [19:12:51] <_av500_> hmm, yearly SDA unsub flamewar started
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  • [19:53:15] <koen> 5 and a half hours already on this beaglejuice
  • [19:53:33] <koen> looks like the marketing of 6.5 is true
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  • [19:53:54] * djlewis_ has been on cranberry juice and distilled or filtered water for a week.
  • [19:54:10] <koen> crazy americans
  • [19:54:32] <djlewis_> :)
  • [19:54:33] * mranostay ears perk up
  • [19:54:47] <mranostay> what did we do now? :)
  • [19:55:33] <ka6sox-away> diet of the week club I think.
  • [19:56:22] <mranostay> i go with the all beer diet
  • [19:57:09] * koen tries to remember if he actually had US beer at ELC
  • [19:57:19] <djlewis_> my snayptic connections are a bit too tarnished already to live like that :(
  • [19:57:29] <djlewis_> see.
  • [19:57:53] <koen> I think I had a US porter beer at some point
  • [19:58:20] <koen> but the rest of the time the japantown beers like saporo
  • [19:58:52] <wmat> koen: the bar at the hotel had some decent beer
  • [19:58:52] <ka6sox-away> the Black Butte Porter is the best I've had.
  • [19:59:20] <koen> wmat: yes, but getting the beer wasn't easy
  • [19:59:33] <wmat> koen: true
  • [19:59:39] <mranostay> koen: microbrews are barely american :)
  • [19:59:58] <mranostay> i've seem Sam Adams (macro micro-brew as i call it) on the imports list at bars :)
  • [20:00:05] <mranostay> *seen
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  • [20:00:14] <mru> sam adams is no micro-brew
  • [20:00:16] <koen> the waiter looked seriously confused when we asked for a few pitches and some glasses
  • [20:00:23] <prpplague> mranostay: hehe indeed, that always cracks me up when i see that
  • [20:00:42] <mranostay> mru: yeah i know. but a hell of lot better than Bud Light
  • [20:00:51] <mru> bud light isn't beer at all
  • [20:01:04] <mranostay> yeah i know. but that is what americans call it....
  • [20:01:25] * mranostay notes people in the South don't have any real beer taste...
  • [20:03:28] * djlewis_ generally goes for the cheapest beer that is within his likeing.
  • [20:03:37] <mranostay> djlewis_: which is?
  • [20:03:51] <djlewis_> and there are a bunch of socalled beer below that tolerance level
  • [20:04:38] <djlewis_> tried pabst, schlitz, bush and the like :( big thumbs down
  • [20:05:11] <djlewis_> mranostay: presnetly MGD
  • [20:05:45] <mranostay> presnetly? you drinking right now? :P
  • [20:05:54] <mranostay> sorry couldn't resist :)
  • [20:05:57] <djlewis_> in the beer time sense :)
  • [20:06:10] <djlewis_> naw, been too sick this week.
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  • [20:07:29] <prpplague> koen: submitting anything for ELC-E ?
  • [20:08:55] <koen> prpplague: yes, I need to get my act together and write an abstract
  • [20:09:03] <koen> since my talk will be Q&A as usual
  • [20:09:18] <koen> unless someone comes up with a way to make buildsystems sexy
  • [20:09:44] <ka6sox-away> I wish...nothing is that easy :(
  • [20:09:55] <prpplague> koen: just let me know if you get accepted so i can bring the sharp sticks
  • [20:10:02] <koen> right
  • [20:10:20] <koen> people still look at me funny when I tell that story
  • [20:10:34] <prpplague> hehe
  • [20:10:49] <prpplague> koen: or should i purchase a crate of these - http://www.amazon.com/Marshmallow-Fun-Co-1100-Shooter/dp/B00077FCT0
  • [20:11:30] <koen> heh
  • [20:11:33] <prpplague> koen: dirk was the only one that didn't want a stick
  • [20:11:47] <prpplague> koen: he looked at me like i was insane
  • [20:11:56] <prpplague> koen: (which is totally not the point)
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  • [20:12:34] <prpplague> koen: http://www.openhardwaresummit.org/
  • [20:13:09] <koen> prpplague: I saw that one
  • [20:13:21] <koen> prpplague: I need to find a way to get funding for that
  • [20:14:30] <prpplague> koen: was thinking of submitting for that as well
  • [20:15:34] <koen> AIUI gerald and jason will be going
  • [20:16:30] <prpplague> koen: yea
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  • [20:22:46] <dvhart> koen, where do I send patches against the linux-omap kernel recipe in meta-ti
  • [20:22:47] <dvhart> ?
  • [20:23:01] <koen> dvhart: what does the README in the layer say?
  • [20:23:09] <dvhart> heh, ok...
  • [20:38:32] <joelagnel> koen, If its ok, could you point to the details of the new RAM chip on the C5, or if there's a board design doc somewhere
  • [20:49:56] <xxiao> console=/dev/ttyO0,152000n8 got output, how do I get that output on ttyO1 as well?
  • [20:50:11] <xxiao> adding another console=/dev/ttyO1,152000n8 did not help
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  • [20:53:04] <koen> joelagnel: you'd have to ask gerald
  • [20:53:20] <joelagnel> koen, ok thanks
  • [20:53:37] <koen> joelagnel: instrumenting xloader to print the IDs it probes for might be faster
  • [20:53:43] * koen looks at sakoman for confirmation
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  • [21:00:26] <koen> I hear it's a MT29C4G48MAZAPAKQ-5 IT
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  • [21:10:06] <joelagnel> koen, yeah. but he was talking about an FPGA?
  • [21:10:48] <joelagnel> sorry, "FBGA"
  • [21:11:35] <joelagnel> sorry to be asking so many questions
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  • [21:19:06] <xxiao> re-ask, is there a way to see output on two serial port in parallel?
  • [21:20:06] <ds2> koen: ping
  • [21:24:09] <Crofton> jkridner, have you seen this?
  • [21:24:10] <Crofton> http://www.mathworks.com/programs/embedded-linux-matlab/
  • [21:24:55] <woglinde> hi crofton
  • [21:24:58] <woglinde> hi ds2
  • [21:25:11] <Crofton> gm
  • [21:26:46] <joelagnel> koen, got dram working on C5
  • [21:26:47] <joelagnel> :)
  • [21:27:13] <ds2> hey woglinde
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