• [00:00:01] <agnel> oh
  • [00:00:22] <jkridner> the ridgerun code that came from the DM355 worked better.
  • [00:01:00] <agnel> jkridner, you mentioned in one of your posts that you had to give bootdelay of 10 . could that be it?
  • [00:01:20] <agnel> *to get serial over usb to work with u-boot
  • [00:01:50] <agnel> http://tinyurl.com/serialoverusb
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  • [00:03:27] <agnel> jkridner, ignore me, never mind. I get your point
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  • [00:03:44] <agnel> :)
  • [00:04:49] <jkridner> :) if you stop the boot using the serial port, you should be fine.
  • [00:05:27] <jkridner> when you want to automate it, you'll need a long bootdelay.
  • [00:05:42] <jkridner> or, to simply disable booting with a uenv.txt
  • [00:08:40] <agnel> jkridner, sure, I will try that, thanks. steve gave me a C5 board and I don't have a serial port or a usb cable, so I've been trying to get musb to work to see boot messages. Then I thought I would see if I could uboot to work with serial using my -xM and then use the same uboot for C5. So far I haven't been able to.
  • [00:09:10] <jkridner> how would you do that without a USB cable?
  • [00:09:21] <agnel> sorry I meant I don't have the serial cable for the rs-232 header
  • [00:09:40] <jkridner> ah!
  • [00:09:47] <agnel> :)
  • [00:09:54] <jkridner> how is the kernel patch coming?
  • [00:10:19] <agnel> I have reviewed it from my end, it would be good if someone else could review it as well
  • [00:10:33] <jkridner> the whitespace comment was just that I didn't want the patch to have whitespace deltas. You shouldn't be changing any whitespace that I know of and you need to be careful with it.
  • [00:10:44] <jkridner> can you put it on a public git tree?
  • [00:10:55] <agnel> I noticed that and I thought I took care, I might have missed some
  • [00:11:05] <jkridner> do you know enough about git to avoid breaking existing trees?
  • [00:11:21] <agnel> jkridner, hehe. I believe I do
  • [00:11:33] <jkridner> is your patch off of 3.0-rc1?
  • [00:11:56] <jkridner> k, I'm going to give you rights to write to http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation.
  • [00:12:04] <agnel> oh I'm afraind it isn't. I will rebase and see if I need to make any changes
  • [00:12:22] <jkridner> just make new branches and never use :.
  • [00:12:36] <agnel> thanks, sure, I will be careful
  • [00:13:14] <jkridner> actually, why don't you start by making a clone?
  • [00:13:41] <jkridner> ie., click the clone button.
  • [00:14:05] <agnel> I think I already did that a long time back
  • [00:14:13] <agnel> yeah, I did
  • [00:14:26] <jkridner> oh, I should probably give you an @beagleboard.org e-mail address too.
  • [00:15:09] <jkridner> I don't see your username.
  • [00:15:24] <agnel> oh I had cloned uboot, check now?
  • [00:18:03] <jkridner> will check in a sec. what do you want your @beagleboard.org e-mail name to be? agnel.joel? joelf? joel?
  • [00:18:28] <agnel> joel@beagleboard.org would be nice, thanks.
  • [00:20:36] <jkridner> I didn't seen any clones that looked like an account name o fyours.
  • [00:21:13] <jkridner> btw, I'd avoid typing my e-mail address in this channel, as the logs are public and could well be scraped by spammers.
  • [00:21:48] <mru> trying to hide one's email address is futile
  • [00:21:56] <mru> just get a decent spam filter
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  • [00:23:06] <agnel> jkridner, https://gitorious.org/~joelf/beagleboard-validation/joelfs-linux
  • [00:23:58] <jkridner> great. I've added you just as a collaborator for now, but bug me again some time and I'll give you commiter rights.
  • [00:24:49] <jkridner> let me know when you've pushed your 2.6.39 patches to that repo.
  • [00:27:24] <agnel> jkridner, sure, thanks.
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  • [05:18:34] <Akshat> Hi
  • [05:19:15] <Akshat> I am facing problems running QT with SGX(PowerVR) enabled on BeagleBoard
  • [05:19:27] <Akshat> please help
  • [05:22:37] <dm8tbr> you'll have to be far more verbose than that
  • [05:22:50] <dm8tbr> else the answer will just be RTFM
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  • [05:32:01] <dm8tbr> heh
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  • [05:33:32] <mIKEjONES> does openocd work with the beagleboard? I've read conflicting reports
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  • [05:46:43] <prpplague> mIKEjONES: yes
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  • [05:46:53] <prpplague> mIKEjONES: there is a beagle board openocd page on elinux
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  • [05:51:15] <Akshat> Hi can anyone help me solving this error
  • [05:52:05] <Akshat> could not find a suitable PVR2D pixel format
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  • [05:53:58] <dm8tbr> Akshat: did you try googling that message?
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  • [06:02:27] <Akshat> yes
  • [06:02:40] <Akshat> i found one post on beagle board also
  • [06:02:49] <Akshat> which says
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  • [06:03:26] <Akshat> use the sgx libs from the angstrom feeds, those fixup the pixelformat
  • [06:03:50] <Akshat> but i am already using open embedded recipies to compile QT with SGX
  • [06:04:04] <Akshat> support
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  • [06:10:51] <dm8tbr> check that those are up to date then
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  • [09:15:06] <_av500_> gm
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  • [09:27:01] <lyakh> koen: I've updated mplayer on 28.05, are you using that one or you downloaded it before then?
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  • [09:33:16] <koen> lyakh: 9a994e31db867a87133d654d5d763f86 mplayer-bayer-v2.tar.bz2
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  • [09:33:26] <koen> lyakh: is that the right md5sum?
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  • [09:35:52] <lyakh> koen: yep, that's the newest one
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  • [09:37:34] <koen> that's the one I built
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  • [09:48:57] <Ali_> Hi Guys, Does anyone have a solution to this. I am building linux kernel in eclipse and using command "make ARCH=arm menuconfig CROSS_COMPILE=/home/ubuntu/arm-2010.09/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-" but I get error in eclipse saying "Error opening terminal: unknown." does anyone know how to solve this
  • [09:50:26] <koen> ah, the 4470 got announced
  • [09:50:53] <koen> Ali_: yes, don't use eclipse
  • [09:52:51] <Ali_> Ok, I have had enought of this eclipse crap. What IDE can i use than to have kernel source code visible to me like in "VS on windows"
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  • [10:01:52] <koen> why do you need an IDE?
  • [10:02:07] <woglinde> ccs
  • [10:02:13] <woglinde> *g*
  • [10:02:48] <woglinde> hms kernel.org is so slow again
  • [10:04:32] <woglinde> ls -la /devel/arm/oetmp-ang/deploy/uclibc/images/
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  • [10:04:34] <woglinde> args
  • [10:04:37] <woglinde> lol
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  • [10:05:40] <Ali_> to see the files in a format like VS
  • [10:05:59] <woglinde> which files?
  • [10:06:26] <woglinde> koen maybee .37 and .39 dies here because of musb again
  • [10:06:42] <woglinde> but I will try this later
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  • [10:15:28] <woglinde> koen the cgroup patch applies without problems
  • [10:15:33] <woglinde> so now lets compile it
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  • [10:31:56] <woglinde> hm hm
  • [10:31:59] <woglinde> windows 8
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  • [10:33:58] <mru> the chatter will die down in a week or two
  • [10:34:31] <woglinde> ?
  • [10:34:39] <mru> windows 8
  • [10:35:11] <woglinde> computex
  • [10:35:51] <mru> windows on arm is still just windows, but without any apps
  • [10:35:59] <mru> so why the excitement?
  • [10:36:17] <woglinde> no excitement some fear
  • [10:36:24] <woglinde> and concerns
  • [10:37:40] <mru> it's probably a good thing for arm
  • [10:38:46] <mru> might keep intel out of a tablet or two
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  • [10:41:56] <woglinde> hm they showed it even on ka-el
  • [10:42:53] <_av500_> kamel?
  • [10:43:19] <mru> tegra3
  • [10:43:46] <_av500_> Ali_: eclipse can be used ti view kernel source much like it can be used to view any other source code
  • [10:43:51] <_av500_> its an editor after all
  • [10:44:00] <mru> not a very good one though
  • [10:45:23] <_av500_> woglinde: win8 looks like a glorified screensaver on top of win7
  • [10:46:09] <_av500_> why people think users like to spend time in "launchers" is beyond me
  • [10:46:51] <mru> first they write a sluggish launcher
  • [10:46:58] <mru> then they gather stats on time spent there
  • [10:47:39] <mru> they notice users spend a lot of time in the launcher and conclude that's what they want
  • [10:47:45] <mru> so they make an even more bloated one
  • [10:47:47] <mru> repeat
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  • [10:48:09] <mru> and then there's the "oooh, shiny" factor
  • [10:48:26] <woglinde> hi crofton
  • [10:48:54] <woglinde> mru hm I use it for call graphs
  • [10:48:59] <hitlin37> so tegra 3 will be without neon too
  • [10:49:04] <mru> hitlin37: no
  • [10:49:09] <mru> t3 has neon
  • [10:49:25] <mru> they know they messed up on t2
  • [10:49:26] * _av500_ wants argon
  • [10:49:32] <mru> radon ftw
  • [10:49:47] <_av500_> on toast
  • [10:49:57] <mru> my mom's water has radon in it
  • [10:50:02] <mru> best water I've tasted
  • [10:50:11] <mru> (probably not due to the radon)
  • [10:50:14] <woglinde> *g*
  • [10:50:43] <mru> more to do with it coming from a local source with no additives
  • [10:52:21] <_av500_> xcept the radon
  • [10:52:31] <mru> that's not added, it's already there
  • [10:53:09] <mru> something to do with the local geology
  • [10:54:23] <jonand> mru: radon in the water is pretty safe to drink but bad to inhale the fumes while taking a shower...
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  • [10:54:48] <jonand> the lungs are way more sensitive to radon than your stomach
  • [10:54:53] <mru> yeah
  • [10:55:28] <jonand> personally I woulnd't want it in the water anyway.
  • [10:55:34] <hitlin37> mru..so for quad core..4 neon too...it says it has 12gpu
  • [10:55:46] <jonand> so... finally it seems like the LVDS display adapter boards will be shipped!
  • [10:56:44] <mru> hitlin37: neon is always one unit per core
  • [10:56:58] <mru> except one very early A9 test chip
  • [10:57:10] <hitlin37> hmmm....
  • [10:57:12] <mru> it had two cores but only one of them had neon
  • [10:57:22] <mru> they ran out of space
  • [10:58:14] <mru> a neon unit needs as much silicon space as the arm core
  • [10:58:38] <woglinde> mru lol
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  • [11:00:47] <jonand> I had a look at the omap5 block diagram the other day. A cortex M3 core for each A15 core. What a chip!
  • [11:01:19] <mru> the omap4 has an m3 per a9 too
  • [11:01:39] <woglinde> hi djwillis
  • [11:01:49] <jonand> Guess the idea is that the A15 cores can sleep while the M3 takes most of the slow housekeeping, like monitoring touch screen and so on?
  • [11:01:55] <jonand> oh. cool.
  • [11:02:21] <jonand> any idea on when the omap4 will be available as a catalog part?
  • [11:02:33] <mru> no
  • [11:02:46] <mru> the 4460 should be iirc
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  • [11:02:55] <woglinde> when windows8 is out
  • [11:02:56] <woglinde> haha
  • [11:02:56] <mru> or whatever they'll be calling it
  • [11:03:02] <jonand> I saw it in the am/dm roadmap, named AM45x, but no date though...
  • [11:03:30] <mru> it'll be the chip as omap4460
  • [11:03:35] <mru> so not before that's out
  • [11:03:50] <mru> shouldn't be too long
  • [11:04:02] <woglinde> so now lets see if the .32 boots with the cgroup stuff
  • [11:05:01] <jonand> my main problem with cell phone parts is the extreme miniaturization
  • [11:05:11] <jonand> 0.4mm ball pitch on the pmic.. :/
  • [11:05:19] <_av500_> same as the cpu itself
  • [11:05:25] <_av500_> why is that a problem?
  • [11:05:28] <jonand> the CUS package is 0.65
  • [11:05:39] <_av500_> is there an omap4 cus?
  • [11:05:49] <_av500_> or DIP?
  • [11:05:51] <mru> I guess he means the omap3
  • [11:05:52] <jonand> it means you have to use microvias
  • [11:05:58] <_av500_> jonand: indeed
  • [11:06:00] <Crofton|work> 40 pin dips rocked
  • [11:06:07] <jonand> which drives cost
  • [11:06:07] <Crofton|work> all those pins
  • [11:06:17] <_av500_> jonand: but there is no turning back the time
  • [11:06:37] <mru> Crofton|work: and pulling them out of a socket without bending the end pins...
  • [11:06:53] <mru> _av500_: travel west?
  • [11:07:05] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [11:07:10] <jonand> _av500_: if you're not a major cell phone vendor buying 100k/months it is still not possible to buy microvia pcbs for a decent pricing.. :/
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  • [11:07:20] <_av500_> not true
  • [11:07:37] <jonand> here in sweden it is even hard to get the CMs to do POP
  • [11:07:53] <mru> so do it in china like everybody else
  • [11:08:00] <_av500_> yep
  • [11:08:13] <jonand> china is not interested in 5k/year
  • [11:08:13] <_av500_> we stopped doing any prototypes in europe
  • [11:08:22] <_av500_> china was chaeper and faster
  • [11:08:29] <_av500_> jonand: i doubt that
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  • [11:10:24] <NotTooDumb3> av500, Hi. I am building android kernel for beagle board, i built the kernel and got uImage, but i did not find where to download u-boot source code and file system in http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/ConfigureAndBuild#Build_rootfs.. any help? thank you.
  • [11:10:37] <woglinde> av500 *g*
  • [11:10:44] <woglinde> who told him to use android?
  • [11:10:45] <_av500_> NotTooDumb3: i have a day off
  • [11:11:08] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
  • [11:11:13] <_av500_> and i think google added uboot to their index long time ago
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  • [11:12:17] <jonand> for this board spin I will use dm3730 and tps65951... both at 0.65mm pitch.
  • [11:12:27] <NotTooDumb3> yes uboot is there in downloads..but did not find file system
  • [11:12:34] <koen> jonand: the m3s on the omap5 aren't meant for housekeeping
  • [11:12:59] <koen> lyakh: you patched a rc2 tarball from mplayerhq, right?
  • [11:13:05] <jonand> but if you have any suggestions on CMs that will run POP in hundreds to a few k volume (preferably in the shanghai area) please let me know!
  • [11:13:21] <jonand> koen: what is their use then?
  • [11:14:04] <hitlin37> nottoodumb3..its there in prebuilt files
  • [11:14:04] <lyakh> koen: yes
  • [11:14:29] <hitlin37> and latest u boot too works..if u want to compile yourself
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  • [11:14:44] <NotTooDumb3> hitlin37, are you telling about the file system?
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  • [11:15:04] <NotTooDumb3> i downloaded uboot..looking for file system now
  • [11:15:07] <woglinde> koen have the cpuidle multikernel diffrent defconfigs?
  • [11:15:27] <hitlin37> file system source code or pre built?
  • [11:15:50] <woglinde> hm
  • [11:15:54] <NotTooDumb3> anything to start with
  • [11:15:57] <woglinde> I will find out with find
  • [11:15:57] <hitlin37> http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/Main?tm=6
  • [11:15:59] <hitlin37> start
  • [11:16:28] <NotTooDumb3> hitlin37, i am following that link..
  • [11:17:33] <hitlin37> works for me
  • [11:17:59] <NotTooDumb3> ok i still did not complete my process..did not find where exactly i find file system
  • [11:18:49] <NotTooDumb3> in this link, http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/downloads/list which is the file system? do i need to download all these files?
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  • [11:19:20] <woglinde> nottoodump should buy a motorboat
  • [11:20:05] <NotTooDumb3> and there is no file like tar -jxvf omap3evm-donut-20xx-xx-xx.tar.bz2 as mentioned in http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/UsingPreBuiltImages in the download page..
  • [11:20:27] <hitlin37> file system here http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_tii/TI_Android_DevKit/02_02_00/index_FDS.html
  • [11:21:16] <hitlin37> NotTooDumb3->play angry bird
  • [11:21:24] <woglinde> *g*
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  • [11:27:01] <NotTooDumb3> hitlin37, which file is filesytem in that? and is there any web page which says about the steps of bringing up andoid, is this page http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/BeagleBoard complete?
  • [11:28:39] <woglinde> last edited 2009
  • [11:28:41] <woglinde> haha
  • [11:29:31] <NotTooDumb3> last edited 2009 is fine but i am totally confused, it does not have steps to bring up android.
  • [11:30:04] <woglinde> hm ti did the same stupidity as nvidia, didnt test if the drivers compiles as module
  • [11:30:05] <hitlin37> NotTooDumb3.. if u download..there will b a readme file
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  • [11:30:48] <NotTooDumb3> download which file? all the files in that link?
  • [11:31:04] <hitlin37> TI_Android_FroYo_DevKit-V2.2.tar.gz
  • [11:33:47] <NotTooDumb3> oh..ok actually from rowboat, i downloaded the source codes and built for uImage..are these two methods completely different?
  • [11:34:41] <hitlin37> both generates same files..i gues
  • [11:35:15] <NotTooDumb3> ok thank you..i am downloading that tar file..
  • [11:35:40] <Crofton|work> mru, we decided the most illegal thing we could do with an e100 is spoof gps at an airport and fly an airplane into the ground
  • [11:36:07] <mru> don't you think they have some kind of safeguards against that?
  • [11:36:08] <Crofton|work> whre we defined "most illegal" as spend the most time in prison
  • [11:36:15] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [11:36:18] <woglinde> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/TI-Android-GingerBread-2.3-DevKit-1.0_DeveloperGuide
  • [11:36:22] <woglinde> hm that has all stuff
  • [11:36:23] <Crofton|work> obviously it would be hard
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  • [11:36:34] <woglinde> dont know whats to hard to follow it
  • [11:36:38] <Crofton|work> and maybe the people that do gps landing systems are not as smart as us
  • [11:36:55] <mru> like, say, a radar altimeter
  • [11:37:05] <Crofton|work> that is also a radio
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  • [11:37:10] <mru> I doubt anyone relies on gps alone
  • [11:37:14] <Crofton|work> we could fake the returns
  • [11:37:24] <mru> that would be very tricky
  • [11:37:52] <hitlin37> koen....2 seconds boot time is great...earlier i thought its possible only by hibernation
  • [11:37:57] <Crofton|work> you asked what is the most illegal thing, not what is easy :)
  • [11:37:59] <mru> you'd also be assuming that the pilot isn't even looking
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  • [11:51:11] <woglinde> hm now systemd fails on /proc/cgroups
  • [12:01:57] <koen> hitlin37: that's just userspace, uboot + kernel take some seconds as well
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  • [12:04:37] <hitlin37> hmmm.......
  • [12:04:39] <koen> console-image build from scratch on core2quad + sdd: 142 minutes
  • [12:04:59] <koen> console-image build from scratch on i7 + spinning disk in vm: 127 minutes
  • [12:04:59] <woglinde> koen hms
  • [12:05:03] <woglinde> still no sucess
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  • [12:05:46] <woglinde> but lunch now
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  • [12:08:10] <hitlin37> even android takes too much time
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  • [12:09:16] <hitlin37> wonders how much it will take windows 8 to boot
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  • [12:17:44] <ka6sox-home> koen same amount of RAM in each?
  • [12:23:29] <woglinde> hitlin 1ghz cpu at least
  • [12:24:12] <woglinde> that was the only spec confirmed
  • [12:24:14] <woglinde> so far
  • [12:26:22] <hitlin37> hmmm
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  • [12:28:29] <koen> ka6sox-home: 2GB in the c2q and 4gb in the vm
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  • [12:30:17] <ka6sox-home> koen, I'll be moar ram in the C2Q would have lowered that somewhat.
  • [12:32:28] <koen> ka6sox-home: I know, but I have trouble finding out which ram is single sided and which is not
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  • [12:32:58] <koen> ka6sox-home: crappy asus p5kpl-e mobo with strange expectations
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  • [12:42:47] <woglinde> tr
  • [12:42:50] <woglinde> ups re
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  • [12:45:45] <ka6sox-home> koen, do you have an LSHW printout of that machine?
  • [12:45:47] <koen> ka6sox-home: going to get a nice thunderbolt connected SSD when they come out to put the vm image on :)
  • [12:46:16] <ka6sox-home> that will be fast.
  • [12:48:47] <koen> ka6sox-home: vm: http://pastebin.com/0b4xvHhg
  • [12:48:57] <koen> ka6sox-home: server: http://pastebin.com/BEjKD3G4
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  • [12:53:56] <woglinde> hm hm without cgroup coredump
  • [12:54:12] <ka6sox-home> koen, they both are the same?
  • [12:54:38] <ka6sox-home> doesn't look like the bios reports density...some do.
  • [12:57:03] <ka6sox-home> okay, off to work...bbl
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  • [13:02:19] <sakoman__> koen: have you seen any NAND issues with recent kernels on OMAP3?
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  • [13:02:45] <sakoman__> I'm seeing reports of issues with post 2.6.34 kernels
  • [13:03:05] <sakoman__> specifically bad block handling seems to be broken
  • [13:03:34] <sakoman__> haven't yet verified this myself since the units on hand all seem to have no bad blocks!
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  • [13:07:02] <sakoman__> hmmm . . . interesting thread on this issue on the l-o list:
  • [13:07:04] <sakoman__> http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg33522.html
  • [13:07:44] <sakoman__> seems to acknowledge an issue in one of the omap2 nand driver patches, but the thread just kind of dies . . .
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  • [13:17:02] <koen> sakoman__: haven't really used nand, no nand on xm or tide :)
  • [13:17:40] <Crofton> gm
  • [13:17:48] <koen> hey Crofton
  • [13:17:50] <sakoman__> Crofton: gm
  • [13:18:09] <Crofton> I am about to turn on a pirate gsm base station and see who I annoy
  • [13:18:30] * koen raises hand
  • [13:18:41] <Crofton> heh
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  • [13:21:19] <Crofton> bother, boot gets a little stuck if no ethernet attached
  • [13:24:52] <DJWillis> sakoman__: I was just discussing that with Grazvydas as the state of OMAP NAND is royally shagged at the moment.
  • [13:25:11] <sakoman__> DJWillis: indeed
  • [13:25:30] <sakoman__> I am surprised that there haven't been more complaints!
  • [13:25:31] <DJWillis> koen: what is the performance of systemd on Angstrom like? I notice you got the distro patches mainlined and it looks good.
  • [13:26:41] <sakoman__> DJWillis: I'm almost ready to revert all the "improvements" to the nand driver since 2.6.34
  • [13:26:48] <DJWillis> sakoman__: well we (that is Grazvydas and I, I guess) have only recently sort of started hacking again in ernest recently and the OP is one of the few devices that relies on 'mainline'ish kernel' and 'NAND' ;).
  • [13:27:18] <sakoman__> DJWillis: Overo is in the same category
  • [13:27:39] <DJWillis> good point
  • [13:27:52] <sakoman__> but Gumstix was shipping with 2.6.34 until very recently
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  • [13:28:23] <sakoman__> so the problem seems to have just been noticed (and only by folks with bad blocks)
  • [13:29:01] <sakoman__> my systems have all good blocks so I've been blissfully unaware of the problem
  • [13:31:33] <DJWillis> sakoman__: I think even with Grazvydas .39 patches (I think they are mainline) on the OpenPandora NAND is 3-4 times slower in .39 (and seems to get worse towards head) than it was in .27 (that we used to ship).
  • [13:32:08] <sakoman__> DJWillis: yes that is another common complaint
  • [13:32:35] <sakoman__> I suspect the TI engineers working on nand driver only use the hwecc path
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  • [13:33:02] <DJWillis> sakoman__: I would think so. Fixed path and fixed tests ;).
  • [13:33:03] <sakoman__> since they tend to say "try hwecc" when people report issues
  • [13:36:42] <DJWillis> sakoman__: very true
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  • [13:46:13] <Crofton> oh god
  • [13:46:21] <Crofton> phones are camping on the e100
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  • [13:57:29] <woglinde> koen hm who is Anand
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  • [14:09:35] <koen> woglinde: c6000 sdk guy
  • [14:09:48] <koen> he works on netra (816x)
  • [14:11:22] <woglinde> hm ah
  • [14:11:32] <woglinde> saw only the two patches on the ml
  • [14:12:37] <koen> yes, I asked him to send the patches, I'd like other people to comment on them
  • [14:12:41] <koen> e.g. Eric B
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  • [14:29:54] <beagleboarduser> hi everyone, i am a new user for the beagleboard and am looking for resources in order to learn how to use the DSP on the BeagleBoard xM. I have looked at google, etc, but figured the experts on here would be willing to lend a hand!
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  • [14:31:24] <woglinde> hm ieehks elinux.org still has dspbridge
  • [14:31:54] <beagleboarduser> woglinde: thanks! i'll look into the website
  • [14:31:59] <woglinde> no
  • [14:32:10] <woglinde> for beagleboard use dsplink
  • [14:33:32] <woglinde> beagleboarduser what will you do with the dsp?
  • [14:34:09] <beagleboarduser> woglinde: thanks for the help. i am looking to get audio off the line in, do some basic signal processing, and send the processed audio to audio out. is the dsp the way to go?
  • [14:34:48] <woglinde> hm yes
  • [14:34:54] <woglinde> but depends
  • [14:35:04] <woglinde> what you will process
  • [14:35:23] <woglinde> take a look at gstreamer framework first
  • [14:35:45] <woglinde> and try out if the omap is fast enough
  • [14:35:53] <beagleboarduser> ok. basically, i need a way to find out the amplitude/time information of the incoming audio in
  • [14:36:03] <woglinde> if not next step would be to get it with dsp run
  • [14:36:27] <woglinde> time information?
  • [14:37:18] <beagleboarduser> yeah, basically i need to match the peak amplitude to the time when it occurs, but all this will be real-time
  • [14:38:38] <woglinde> hm okay
  • [14:38:49] <woglinde> you might have a look at the c6accel stuff
  • [14:39:05] <woglinde> I think gstreamer will not help you much in this case
  • [14:40:46] <beagleboarduser> thanks woglinde for the help! will the c6accel allow me to access registers directly from, say, a script or a c program? that way, i can pull in the amplitude value into the program.
  • [14:41:06] <woglinde> should be
  • [14:41:24] <woglinde> it helps you to acess the dsp for special functions
  • [14:41:45] <beagleboarduser> cool then!
  • [14:43:17] <woglinde> unfornatly the docu isnt at the best state
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  • [14:55:15] <beagleboarduser> woglinde: thanks again for the help!
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  • [14:56:32] <woglinde> hm now he is gone
  • [14:56:41] <woglinde> this looks like something fresh with c6accel
  • [14:56:44] <woglinde> http://sourceforge.net/scm/?type=svn&group_id=547072
  • [14:57:11] <woglinde> hm no files
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  • [16:21:22] <agnel> I see that gpio is being freed after getting rev in Tony's linux-omap tree
  • [16:21:26] <agnel> gpio_free_array(omap3_beagle_rev_gpios,ARRAY_SIZE(omap3_beagle_rev_gpios));
  • [16:21:53] <agnel> Is that something that went in by mistake? I remember an argument here about why not to free gpios
  • [16:23:01] <woglinde_> depends on the gpio
  • [16:23:18] <woglinde_> if there is only an led connect why not free it
  • [16:23:25] <agnel> the ones used for revision
  • [16:23:42] <woglinde_> hm ah that again
  • [16:23:43] <agnel> maybe ds2 could shed some light? :)
  • [16:24:22] <agnel> Well it seems to have gone in
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  • [17:25:44] <beagleboarduser> hi, my beagleboard xM, after about 10/20 mins into booting of Anstrom, becomes unresponsive...is there a way I can troubleshoot this issue?
  • [17:26:05] <Ceriand|work> probably
  • [17:26:57] <woglinde_> hm
  • [17:26:59] <woglinde_> didnt hear it
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  • [17:44:07] <koen> agnel: ther are freed so you can read them in userspace
  • [17:44:12] <koen> they*
  • [17:44:52] <agnel> koen, oh ok. :) I remember a heated discussion here about why nobody should touch them or something so was wondering
  • [17:45:29] * _av500_ picks a hot poker from the fire
  • [17:45:35] <agnel> koen, patch is ready, should I send you?
  • [17:48:39] <koen> yeah, don't forget to copy kridner and matt
  • [17:49:26] <agnel> koen, nothing on the ML about the ISP issue yet
  • [17:49:29] <agnel> koen, ok sure
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  • [17:50:41] <jkridner> I think for the revision id, it is good to free the GPIOs.
  • [17:51:11] <jkridner> will be interesting for someone to point out that debate.
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  • [17:51:57] <ds2> jkridner: ping
  • [17:52:33] <koen> ds2: no, you can't have more NAND on C5, we already doubled it especially for you
  • [17:52:44] <koen> :p
  • [17:52:46] <ds2> hhahahaha
  • [17:53:07] <ds2> koen: but can Linux see that NAND? :D
  • [17:53:50] <koen> uboot does, I have to try it out
  • [17:54:14] <koen> so I can confirm sakoman__s suspicions that the omap nand driver is broken again
  • [17:54:32] * koen attended a confcall with PSP that went on and on about them fixing the nand driver again
  • [17:54:44] <ds2> koen: is this the same P/N that was on the early xM's?
  • [17:55:04] <ds2> I did that once
  • [17:55:08] <koen> iirc not, but I'd have to ask gerald
  • [17:55:12] <koen> wait
  • [17:55:18] * koen gets some more light and a c5
  • [17:55:38] <ds2> I think the Linux drivers for NAND is broq on the xM's, IIRC
  • [17:55:42] <koen> IGA98 JW476
  • [17:56:08] <ds2> I don't have an early xM to compare... know if it is large page or small page like the older parts?
  • [17:56:48] <Russ> I didn't think the xM had accessible NAND
  • [17:56:52] <Russ> I thought it was SD
  • [17:56:59] <ds2> Russ: early xM's
  • [17:57:23] <koen> the part on my old xm is 9VA11 Z9LCG
  • [17:57:28] <koen> (P8)
  • [17:58:35] <ds2> guess the only way to find out is if it is large or small page part
  • [17:58:44] <ds2> i think i know which one it is but...
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  • [18:16:23] <koen> ds2: that viyasar guy emailed a few of us privately demanding we send him all the codes
  • [18:17:04] <ds2> koen: =)
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  • [18:20:42] <jkridner> ds2: I'll ping you when I'm back from the dentis.
  • [18:20:47] <jkridner> er, dentist.
  • [18:22:38] <koen> if you're t's are missing on IRC it must be really serious
  • [18:28:09] <joelagnel|brb> hehe
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  • [19:30:03] <koen> lyakh: how much work is it to use soc-camera sensors in .39 for beagle?
  • [19:30:33] <lyakh> koen: \infinity;)
  • [19:30:39] <koen> :)
  • [19:30:53] <lyakh> well, it's not that much work
  • [19:31:06] <lyakh> but if you want to do this right
  • [19:31:16] <koen> sergio did it for .32, not sure if the situation changed
  • [19:31:21] <lyakh> you have to push through a conversion path
  • [19:31:28] <lyakh> and _that_ is infinity:)
  • [19:31:40] <lyakh> no, I mean, a local hack is trivial
  • [19:31:46] <koen> the goal is to have all the LI sensors working with beagle
  • [19:31:52] <lyakh> but if you want to mainline something like that
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  • [19:32:05] <koen> mainline, schmainline :)
  • [19:32:24] <lyakh> I haven't seen any LI sensors with soc-camera drivers?
  • [19:32:56] <koen> mt9t111 ?
  • [19:33:12] <koen> mt9v113?
  • [19:33:18] <_av500_> koen: why not steal the cam support from WBU?
  • [19:33:31] <_av500_> it works for zoom3...
  • [19:33:38] <_av500_> or our stuff
  • [19:33:45] <koen> 0051-mt9t112-Migrate-from-soc_camera-to-v4l2-int-device.patch
  • [19:33:48] <koen> there we go :)
  • [19:33:54] <koen> _av500_: which sensors does that support?
  • [19:34:02] <lyakh> ok, forgot about mt9t111, but I don't see a mt9v113 camera?
  • [19:34:12] <_av500_> koen: zoom3, no idea
  • [19:34:20] <_av500_> ours is a 720p and a vga one
  • [19:34:24] <koen> _av500_: iirc that's ov something
  • [19:34:30] <_av500_> yes
  • [19:34:52] <koen> lyakh: right the v113 was something sergio did on his own
  • [19:34:58] <lyakh> ic:)
  • [19:35:49] <koen> crap
  • [19:36:02] <koen> googling for 'mt9v133 linux' shows me as 3rd hit
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  • [19:43:55] <jkridner> ds2: ping
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  • [19:53:09] <woglinde_> re
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  • [21:30:54] <veetid> I have a new Beagle Board rev C4 and cannot get it to boot from MMC
  • [21:31:16] <veetid> I have a 1GB and an 8GB SD card, I have formatted with the HP utility in both Fat and Fat32
  • [21:31:31] <veetid> I always copy the MLO file first, then in this case the ebootsd.nbo and nk.bin file to test WinCE
  • [21:31:31] <woglinde_> why hp utitily?
  • [21:31:41] <woglinde_> take the shell script
  • [21:31:48] <veetid> and if I hold down user and power up, I see 40W and then it loads boot loader from NAND
  • [21:31:53] <veetid> I'm in Windows
  • [21:32:20] <woglinde_> use virtualbox
  • [21:32:25] <_av500_> veetid: erase the nand
  • [21:32:35] <mru> give the nand to ds2
  • [21:33:09] <veetid> I can try that, but shouldn't holding the user button make it read the MLO from the SD/MMC?
  • [21:33:18] <veetid> and the 40W that shows up means something right?
  • [21:33:31] <veetid> I am worried that I will erase the NAND and then get only 40W and it will be bricked
  • [21:33:35] <_av500_> no
  • [21:33:48] <_av500_> i guess the rom code does not like your card
  • [21:33:56] <_av500_> and proceeds to boot from nand
  • [21:34:10] <veetid> ok, if I remove nand, it will still not like the card right? or will it?
  • [21:34:18] <_av500_> prolyl not
  • [21:34:25] <_av500_> probably not
  • [21:34:33] <_av500_> but cards can be made to be liked
  • [21:34:36] <veetid> can I flash the new MLO after erasing without rebooting or something?
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  • [21:35:00] <_av500_> i guess so
  • [21:35:10] <_av500_> but I have no idea, I boot from SD :)
  • [21:35:23] * woglinde_ boots from sd too
  • [21:36:14] <veetid> so you remove NAND and then you don't have to hold the user button because it will try MMC?
  • [21:36:20] <veetid> or do you have to hold it every time
  • [21:36:23] <_av500_> no
  • [21:36:30] <_av500_> i think not
  • [21:36:58] <_av500_> anyway, you cannot brick the board
  • [21:37:08] <thurbad> veetid, are you sure the boot partition is flagged as bootable?
  • [21:37:14] <_av500_> is your boot partition marked "active"?
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  • [21:38:24] <thurbad> if it sees a bootable MLO on nand it will try there first unless you hold the user button
  • [21:48:20] <veetid> I'm in Windows, and I have a 1GB and 8GB drive, I just have them formatted, should I have multiple partitions and set one as active?
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  • [21:51:29] <_av500_> you should have the boot partition active
  • [21:51:40] <_av500_> and you should have read the information about that
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  • [22:26:35] <veetid> anyone in here run WinCE on their beagle board?
  • [22:27:46] <_av500_> no
  • [22:28:00] <_av500_> why would anybody do that
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  • [22:29:26] <woglinde_> hm has the ce dsp acess?
  • [22:30:40] <woglinde_> av500 you make free tomorrow?
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  • [22:33:47] <_av500_> no, i make work
  • [22:33:50] <_av500_> :)
  • [22:35:12] <woglinde_> hehe okay
  • [22:35:29] <woglinde_> good nite
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