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  • [02:23:39] <agnel> Is it possible to use have U-boot download a kernel over the serial port or usb, using maybe pusb or ukermit?
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  • [07:53:02] <mbakkali> Hi there... I have a beagleboard xm... just tried testing the GPIO 168 but nothing changes on my multimeter... can anyone help?
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  • [07:54:51] <mbakkali> does anyone have an XM?
  • [08:00:04] <mbakkali> GPIO 168 doesn't work but 157 works.... if anyone has any idea.. please let me know...
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  • [09:02:22] <daurnimator> hi all
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  • [09:26:09] <joel_> daurnimator, hi.
  • [09:26:31] <daurnimator> I'M having trouble booting ubuntu natty on my xM
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  • [15:03:38] <mrcan> i have an error: 'MUX_VAL' undeclared (first use in this function) when building u-boot. any experiences about that?
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  • [15:46:12] <mranostay> mrcan: that is pretty vague
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  • [15:51:00] <mrcan> mranostay: what can i do about that?
  • [15:51:51] <mrcan> any advice?
  • [15:53:45] <mranostay> pastebin the build output?
  • [15:56:22] <mrcan> one moment i will
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  • [16:03:55] <mrcan> mranostay: http://pastebin.com/Ms6LcMzH
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  • [18:24:30] <chrissbx> Hi. Does the beagleboard-xm require any binary-only drivers?
  • [18:24:46] <woglinde> 3d
  • [18:25:33] <chrissbx> For 2D accelerated X, I don't need any?
  • [18:25:44] <chrissbx> (compiz-less desktop)
  • [18:25:53] <woglinde> right
  • [18:25:55] <chrissbx> good.
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  • [18:29:42] <koen> the drivers for 3d are gplv2 as well
  • [18:29:51] <koen> the shader compilers and libs aren't
  • [18:30:08] <koen> (to use the correct parlance, it still boils down to using evil blobs)
  • [18:34:49] <chrissbx> hm but if I interpret correctly, at least the crash-risky part (hardware driver) is open, then, which sounds nice
  • [18:42:05] <damjan> chrissbx: I guess if that blob lib crashes your gpu, there's no much help either
  • [18:43:19] <chrissbx> hm, if that lib accesses the HW directly, yes
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  • [18:48:02] <_av500_> chrissbx: the driver situation is the same for omap3 and omap4
  • [18:48:07] <_av500_> thus for BB and panda
  • [18:48:18] <_av500_> sgx drivers are closed and will stay like that
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  • [18:51:52] <chrissbx> aha. So no advantage of the beagle board over the pandaboard re drivers.
  • [18:53:22] <chrissbx> woglinde: so what av500 tells me is that for accelerated X, even if only 2D, I actually *do* need the blobs.
  • [18:53:42] <_av500_> yes
  • [18:58:20] <dm8tbr> i thought there was no 2d accel?
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  • [18:59:56] <chrissbx> dm8tbr: yes, that's what av500 told me on #pandaboard,
  • [19:00:48] <chrissbx> so when I was asking for X that doesn't suck because scrolling wobbles and all your movements are real slow, then you need the 3D drivers because that's the only way to accelerate anything.
  • [19:02:06] <dm8tbr> never cared, but might be that compositing makes that smooth
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  • [19:05:02] <chrissbx> compositing? Wouldn't that need HW support, i.e. 2D (or 3D) acceleration support? (Hence back at the point of needing blobs)
  • [19:06:35] <_av500_> chrissbx: assuming you need the blobs, is that a showstopper?
  • [19:07:24] <woglinde> av500 hm so the fbdev xserver dont works?
  • [19:07:34] <_av500_> woglinde: ure it does
  • [19:07:36] <_av500_> sure
  • [19:07:56] <woglinde> so why he needs the sgx than?
  • [19:07:58] <_av500_> we are talking hw accelearation
  • [19:08:01] <chrissbx> _av500_: not a show stopper, but it takes away the possible advantage versus Nvidia Tegra, for example
  • [19:08:24] <woglinde> ?
  • [19:08:35] <woglinde> tegra is closed source too
  • [19:08:39] <_av500_> chrissbx: if you cound having no neon and no full 1080p decode as an advantage for the tegra...
  • [19:08:42] <woglinde> but fbdev works
  • [19:08:44] <_av500_> count
  • [19:08:44] <woglinde> *g*
  • [19:09:48] <chrissbx> woglinde: how does it feel with fbdev?
  • [19:09:56] <woglinde> tegra?
  • [19:09:57] <woglinde> fast
  • [19:10:49] <chrissbx> _av500_: I don't understand, what's neon, and the tegra does have full 1080p decode doesn't it?
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  • [19:11:15] <chrissbx> ah neon is the ARM media extension, now i remember
  • [19:12:52] <woglinde> neon is about floating points
  • [19:13:09] <chrissbx> yeah, well vector instructions, not only floating point I think
  • [19:14:05] <chrissbx> (SIMD); yep, neon supports vector integer ops, too, according to the ARM wikipedia page
  • [19:15:09] <koen> tegra doesn't do full 1080p
  • [19:15:15] <koen> e.g. no high profile
  • [19:17:42] <_av500_> chrissbx: tegra2 HP 1080 decode is broken
  • [19:18:26] <woglinde> btw. nvidia commit the first bunch of t3 in there kernel repo
  • [19:18:27] <chrissbx> Interesting; and the beagle or panda boards do it?
  • [19:18:52] <koen> beagle no, panda yes
  • [19:18:58] <chrissbx> That's cool.
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  • [19:22:30] <chrissbx> Multiple independent USB2 channels would be nice so that RAID-0 would give me more disk speed; does either of the boards have that? (Or unsoldered SATA or so?)
  • [19:23:08] <koen> usb for disks?!?!?
  • [19:23:18] <chrissbx> Well, what else?
  • [19:23:36] <chrissbx> SD card is probably even slower, I guess?
  • [19:23:42] <_av500_> yes
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  • [19:24:41] <_av500_> chrissbx: niether board has 2x usb
  • [19:24:45] <_av500_> neither
  • [19:25:14] <chrissbx> The problem with USB is also that I don't know where to get *good* flash drives for it;
  • [19:25:27] <woglinde> on tegra you have pcie lanes
  • [19:25:47] <woglinde> but I dont know any design which is using them
  • [19:26:04] <_av500_> no mobile phones with pcie slots?
  • [19:26:10] <chrissbx> SATA flash drives are well suited as root or swap volumes, versus USB consumer drives aren't (I had several break down after a couple months)
  • [19:26:19] <woglinde> trimslice
  • [19:26:24] <_av500_> no sata either
  • [19:26:34] <_av500_> on BB or panda
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  • [19:27:26] <chrissbx> woglinde: well, as people on the Toshiba AC100 irc told me it's not clear whether that pcie lane actually supports anything other than usb.
  • [19:27:44] <chrissbx> well, what's soldered in the AC100 anyway.
  • [19:27:50] <woglinde> no
  • [19:28:06] <woglinde> I am owning a ac100 myself
  • [19:28:13] <woglinde> and we got one document
  • [19:28:19] <woglinde> in channel
  • [19:28:30] <woglinde> pcie lanes are not accessible
  • [19:29:27] <chrissbx> aha
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