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  • [00:58:55] <Geeko> Who wants to give me $5000?
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  • [01:01:42] <ds2> sure, just give me 10troy oz of gold first.
  • [01:01:44] <ds2> ;)
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  • [01:06:13] <Geeko> ds2 heh, maybe I'll get some money from some contests.
  • [01:06:29] <Geeko> I want to into the NAO developer program
  • [01:08:08] <Geeko> I want to get*
  • [01:16:22] <ds2> NAO?
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  • [01:23:00] <Geeko> rcn-ee, I got some problems with the boot.
  • [01:23:17] <rcn-ee> Geeko, where you able to get a serial log?
  • [01:23:43] <rcn-ee> (i know you were fighting the cable last night..)
  • [01:23:59] <Geeko> rcn-ee, Yup and I got it to boot up into it but I'm not getting anything out of the HDMI
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  • [01:24:08] <Geeko> ds2, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=NAO+robot
  • [01:24:41] <rcn-ee> do you upload it to pastebin.com? just rebooted so i don'thave the log at the moment..
  • [01:25:14] <Geeko> rcn-ee let me boot and do that.
  • [01:25:24] <rcn-ee> perfect, thanks..
  • [01:25:53] <Geeko> I just took a break so I have to set some things up.
  • [01:26:50] <ds2> *shrug*
  • [01:27:14] <ds2> completely useless cruft
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  • [01:29:30] <Geeko> rcn-ee: http://pastebin.com/iMAaDN1M
  • [01:29:41] <Geeko> I do get the login there, but I get nothing on the hdmi
  • [01:30:06] <rcn-ee> is it just a normal lcd?
  • [01:30:23] <Geeko> HDTV, but I was getting output from Angstrom so its not the tv
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  • [01:30:47] <rcn-ee> was that with angstrom's 2.6.32-psp kernel?
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  • [01:32:01] <rcn-ee> (the other option is angstrom's 2.6.37 kernel, which i don't think is on the demo-image site yet..)
  • [01:32:19] <rcn-ee> do you remember if worked with my older 2.6.35 based demo image?
  • [01:32:24] <Geeko> It was with the 2.6.32-psp kernel
  • [01:32:41] <Geeko> rcn-ee I haven't tried that yet.
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  • [01:34:45] <rcn-ee> okay.. what model hdtv is it? i think your seeing the same bug i'm seeing with one of my 5 lcd screen's (work and home) that i've tested with.. that one worked just fine with 2.6.35, but has stopped since 2.6.36.. haven't found the change yet..
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  • [01:36:21] <Geeko> rcn-ee: trying another screen
  • [01:37:24] <rcn-ee> also try a different resolution.. 1024/768.. the one i have that doesn't work is weird.. if i shut the screen off and then turn back on it's shows the output for a good second before powersaving off.
  • [01:37:59] <Geeko> :/ that is strange
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  • [01:40:17] <Geeko> input not supported :/
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  • [01:40:47] <rcn-ee> so it only likes the 720p value..
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  • [01:41:42] <Geeko> I traded monitors
  • [01:41:48] <rcn-ee> ah
  • [01:42:02] <ds2> just wire up a direct panel and be done with.
  • [01:42:06] <ds2> less pain
  • [01:42:59] <rcn-ee> Geeko, give this kernel a try, just uploaded it tonight: http://rcn-ee.net/deb/maverick/v2.6.38-rc6-d3/install-me.sh
  • [01:43:18] <ds2> rcn-ee: are your kernels still K-O based?
  • [01:43:40] <rcn-ee> mainline + a random sprinkling of git tree's..
  • [01:43:54] <Geeko> rcn-ee I tried 1024x768 same result
  • [01:43:57] <ds2> haven't bought into the PSP kernel advantages? :D
  • [01:44:39] <rcn-ee> lets see.. mainline + omap3 sgx + panda display drivers + dvfs stuff + dspbridge for .39.. ;)
  • [01:44:45] <Geeko> setenv 1024x768MR -16@60
  • [01:45:07] <ds2> space?
  • [01:47:28] <Geeko> I'm not booting with a initrd file though would that throw it off?
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  • [01:48:18] <rcn-ee> other then your clock.. no not really... there's things i could do to force the use of and initrd, but i don't. ;)
  • [01:49:02] <rcn-ee> (the busybox shell it provides is useful if your mmc cards dies. ;))
  • [01:49:30] <ds2> that's why you need things in NAND!
  • [01:50:32] <rcn-ee> if only all the user's hadn't rma'd their boards thinking they were defective cause the messed the nand up.. ;)
  • [01:52:05] <ds2> easy way to deal with that... NPF's are assessed a fee
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  • [01:52:17] <ds2> use that fee to subsize future boards ;)
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  • [01:57:13] <Geeko> Hmm, I think my nand is fine.
  • [01:59:07] <Geeko> What other options are there?
  • [01:59:59] <rcn-ee> did my 2.6.38 kernel work?
  • [02:00:58] <Geeko> Where do I get that?
  • [02:01:28] <rcn-ee> i scripted it: "wget http://rcn-ee.net/deb/maverick/v2.6.38-rc6-d3/install-me.sh" "/bin/bash install-me.sh" on the beagle..
  • [02:01:50] <Geeko> Alright, I see it. Give me a min
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  • [02:03:39] <Geeko> I made two scripts that allow me to usb network my laptop and my beagle
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  • [02:06:07] <ds2> rcn-ee: that command can be adapted nicely for other narfarious uses ;)
  • [02:06:19] <Geeko> lol
  • [02:06:57] <rcn-ee> yes it could.. ;) but i make sure it's atleast an armel platform.. ;)
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  • [02:07:29] <ds2> those are oh so rare :(
  • [02:07:50] <Geeko> rcn-ee it is intalling 2.6.37.1
  • [02:08:04] <Geeko> I think I missed something :P
  • [02:08:34] <rcn-ee> yeah, that's not right.. you might have downloaded the 2.6.37.1 one..
  • [02:08:50] <donglongchao> y my BB-xM is so slow with TI-android?
  • [02:08:58] <Geeko> I think I di :P
  • [02:09:02] <rcn-ee> donglongchao, original in box sd card right?
  • [02:09:48] <donglongchao> rcn-ee: right
  • [02:10:06] <Geeko> rcn-ee: Ok its installing
  • [02:10:14] <rcn-ee> okay... do you have a propane lighter? pull the card out and burn it. .;)
  • [02:10:40] <donglongchao> I see "I guess the problem with the long time waiting is that XM powers SD card
  • [02:10:41] <donglongchao> with 3.0V but this is at the edge of the specification. Probably it requires
  • [02:10:41] <donglongchao> to increase the SD supply to 3.15V - the maximum TPS65950 can give. "
  • [02:10:57] * Geeko burns his 4gb sdcard
  • [02:10:59] <Geeko> ok what next?
  • [02:11:02] <Geeko> :P
  • [02:11:11] <rcn-ee> nah, they are just very slow cards.. ;) get a new one.
  • [02:11:11] <donglongchao> from http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/38e5370b8a07cfe6
  • [02:11:55] <donglongchao> is it a possible answer?
  • [02:12:07] <Geeko> rcn-ee: same result
  • [02:12:25] <rcn-ee> Geeko, with 2.6.38 right?
  • [02:12:32] <Geeko> rcn-ee yup
  • [02:13:22] <rcn-ee> okay.. sounds liek a fun 2.6.35..2.6.37 bisect ;) wish i had the broken monitor at work.. probally won't have free time till the weekend..
  • [02:13:55] <Geeko> rcn-ee: I think I got one more monitor to try
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  • [02:14:36] <rcn-ee> all my cheap dell's and an acer work good, it's the hp i have that fails for me..
  • [02:14:59] <donglongchao> rcn-ee: you mean the original card itself in the board is slow?
  • [02:15:31] <Geeko> Envision is having trouble
  • [02:15:39] <rcn-ee> donglongchao, correct... it's a very slow card.. replace it with something from: http://sakoman.com/OMAP/microsd-card-perfomance-test-results.html
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  • [02:18:01] <Geeko> My mother was tired of me using her hdtv :P
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  • [02:19:43] <Geeko> which it didn't work on that
  • [02:23:36] <Geeko> What are the odds that it doesn't work on 3 of my monitors?
  • [02:24:22] <thurbad> if they're the same models.. pretty good
  • [02:24:45] <Geeko> Envision, HP, and another I can't remember
  • [02:24:52] <Geeko> thats the brands at least
  • [02:30:41] <Geeko> Ok I got something different now
  • [02:31:19] <Geeko> Just a black screen
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  • [02:39:38] <Geeko> Hanging: "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel."
  • [02:41:23] <Geeko> rcn-ee i'm trying the Panda variation
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  • [02:42:38] <Geeko> Rcn-ee: All I need is the console to show up on the screen.
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  • [02:44:57] <rcn-ee> panda variation? drop back to 2.6.35..
  • [02:45:37] <rcn-ee> http://rcn-ee.net/deb/maverick/v2.6.35.9-l9/install-me.sh (remember to change ttyO2 back to ttyS2..)
  • [02:47:35] <Geeko> alright I"ll try that
  • [02:48:03] <Geeko> something got corrupted so I have to reformat the SD
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  • [02:51:20] <Geeko> Alright.. its still stoping at "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel."
  • [02:55:17] <Geeko> rcn-ee: ^^
  • [02:55:56] <rcn-ee> double check your bootarg's.. 2.6.35 needs ttyS2 where 2.6.37 needs ttyO2..
  • [02:56:13] <zandubalm> prpplague: thanks for helping abt the BBtouch,zippy2
  • [02:56:37] <Geeko> rcn-ee this is with a fresh sdcard
  • [02:57:11] <rcn-ee> ah.. it shouldn't stop there.. are you using the sd card writer that worked before?
  • [02:58:34] <Geeko> rcn-ee: up
  • [03:00:43] <Geeko> yup*
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  • [03:02:23] <Geeko> :/ Yea reset bootargs and still same thing
  • [03:04:00] <Geeko> rcn-ee: this is the bootargs http://pastebin.com/F6H9usW1
  • [03:04:28] <rcn-ee> that should work fine with the 2.6.37 kernel..
  • [03:04:46] <Geeko> Which is what I have in right now.
  • [03:05:20] <prpplague> zandubalm: no problem
  • [03:06:41] <Geeko> Going to let it cool for 5 min
  • [03:06:45] <rcn-ee> Geeko, very strange, since it was booting just fine like an hour ago... wonder what changed..
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  • [03:15:41] <Geeko> rcn-ee: let it cool for 5 min and it works?. haha!
  • [03:15:56] <rcn-ee> strange..
  • [03:16:01] <rcn-ee> the sd card or the beagle?
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  • [03:16:32] <Geeko> beagle
  • [03:16:40] <rcn-ee> humm.
  • [03:16:56] <thurbad> ... odd
  • [03:18:16] <Geeko> Isn't it?
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  • [03:23:58] <Geeko> what was that link rcn-ee?
  • [03:24:14] <Geeko> for downgrading the kernel
  • [03:24:59] <rcn-ee> umm.. http://rcn-ee.net/deb/maverick/v2.6.35.9-l9/install-me.sh
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  • [03:27:04] <Geeko> kk thanks
  • [03:28:44] <Geeko> uInitrd, what is that file used for?
  • [03:30:23] <rcn-ee> it just allows you to have some modules built outside the kernel loaded up on boot, before the rootfile system becomes active..
  • [03:30:48] <Geeko> Any of them I might want? :P
  • [03:31:09] <Geeko> Still nothing on teh screen
  • [03:31:25] <rcn-ee> even with the good ole 2.6.35?
  • [03:31:40] <Geeko> Yup
  • [03:32:03] <rcn-ee> crap, that had been the most reliable series..
  • [03:32:38] <Geeko> I"m going to see if I boot angstrom if I get an image
  • [03:34:24] <Geeko> If I get it to boot with an image.. what could that mean?
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  • [03:35:20] <rcn-ee> another regression.. ;)
  • [03:36:20] <Geeko> woot!..
  • [03:39:19] <mranostay> heh
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  • [03:48:56] <Geeko> rcn-ee any other ideas?
  • [03:49:08] <rcn-ee> did angstrom work? or..?
  • [03:49:16] <Geeko> It did.
  • [03:49:23] <Geeko> Sort of.
  • [03:49:29] <Geeko> I had to change the boot args to boot
  • [03:50:46] <Geeko> I'm going to try 11.04
  • [03:51:32] <rcn-ee> Geeko, same kernel.. i updated all 3 images at the same time. ;)
  • [03:51:52] <rcn-ee> only difference is the age of packages in userspace..
  • [03:52:12] <Geeko> rcn-ee: 11.04 it is running a different gui though. Just going to try it.
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  • [03:52:33] <rcn-ee> welll same kernel 'source' just built with the native userspace..
  • [03:52:51] <Geeko> rcn-ee well what else can I try?
  • [03:53:36] <rcn-ee> there's really not much.. we can try enabling debug..
  • [03:54:12] <Geeko> That would possibly show something
  • [03:54:57] <rcn-ee> and of course, brain fart... omapfb.debug=y on bootarg's?
  • [03:56:48] <rcn-ee> yeap that's right.. found the wiki again.. although i haven't had much luck reading the output when it's used..
  • [03:59:13] <Geeko> rcn-ee alright set it and booted
  • [03:59:34] <rcn-ee> it should dump a lot more to the serial terminal..
  • [04:00:09] <Geeko> It kinda looks ike it
  • [04:01:31] <Geeko> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.4ss (Jan 4 2011 - 12:38:07) Beagle Rev C4 Reading boot sector Loading u-boot.bin from mmc U-Boot 2010.03-dirty (Feb 02 2011 - 22:55:29) OMAP3530-GP ES3.1, CPU-OPP2, L3-165MHz, Max clock-720Mhz OMAP3 Beagle board + LPDDR/NAND I2C: ready DRAM: 256 MB NAND: 256 MiB In: serial Out: serial Err: serial Probing for expansion boards, if none are connected you'll see a harmless I2C error. timed o
  • [04:01:34] <Geeko> oops
  • [04:01:46] <Geeko> http://pastebin.com/vD0eGWCb
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  • [04:03:27] <rcn-ee> ah i see the problem with 2.6.35: [ 0.000000] Kernel command line: console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait ro vram=${vram} omapfb.mode=dvi:${dvimode} omapfb.debug=y fixrtc buddy=${buddy} mpurate=${mpurate}
  • [04:03:39] <rcn-ee> it didn't replace the ${var}'s..
  • [04:03:57] <Geeko> Alright I'll set them
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  • [04:08:55] <mranostay> rcn-ee: who hasn't done that at least once in U-boot? :)
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  • [04:09:52] <rcn-ee> that and the 'if test' in u-boot where fun to figure out... darn (') getting in the way. .;)
  • [04:10:37] <Geeko> rcn-ee: ok I see stuff on the screen.. but!
  • [04:10:45] <Geeko> its just errors
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  • [04:11:20] <rcn-ee> so the screen works? ;)
  • [04:11:26] <Geeko> "init: pymouth main process (53) killed by SEGV signal
  • [04:11:39] <rcn-ee> that's safe to ignore.. ;) uintrd fixes that..
  • [04:11:58] <Geeko> rcn-ee: so I need to put uinitrd on?
  • [04:12:17] <Geeko> its in the /boot/ folder right?
  • [04:12:35] <rcn-ee> no... it's safe to ignore.. during bootup it didn't find the pymouth fancy boot spash screen program..
  • [04:13:01] <Geeko> well it halted on that spot
  • [04:13:24] <rcn-ee> it should show a login screen.. (usually within 30 seconds)
  • [04:13:47] <Geeko> I'll boot again and see
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  • [04:15:32] <Geeko> there are 4 errors, all terminated but different beginnings. plymouth main, splash, log. Then there is another ureadahead-other was also terminated
  • [04:15:42] <Geeko> Its been about 45 sec and no login screen
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  • [04:16:10] <rcn-ee> try to cycle tty's.. ctrl-alt-f1..
  • [04:16:47] <Geeko> rcn-ee: alright I see the omap login
  • [04:16:49] <Geeko> awesome
  • [04:17:18] <rcn-ee> humm weird.. on bootup that should have been the ctrl-alt-f7 spot..
  • [04:18:21] <Geeko> ctrl-alt-f7 is the error screenn
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  • [04:22:24] <Geeko> woot pinging google :P
  • [04:23:02] <Geeko> Now.. do I want a gui.. or not?
  • [04:27:10] <rcn-ee> if you want, start small xfce4 and add what you need, the *-desktop meta packages are too big..
  • [04:28:55] <Geeko> rcn-ee xfce4 already installed? oh and ssh already configured?
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  • [04:29:53] <rcn-ee> no, but a script for a minimal xfce is under /boot/uboot/tools.. (minimal_xfce.sh)
  • [04:30:11] <rcn-ee> it install's the 5 main packages so gdm/xfce4 works..
  • [04:31:04] <Geeko> rcn-ee: alright awesome, estimated space taken?
  • [04:31:38] <rcn-ee> it's fine on a 2GB card, don't remember if it'll fit on a 1GB...
  • [04:32:36] <rcn-ee> 2GB's usually enough for me to test xfce4, bring in the sgx sdk with all the demo's and lib's and then build the dsp gst-dsp stuff with all the dependices, with a 100Mb swap file, so plenty of room..
  • [04:34:54] <Geeko> rcn-ee: alright perfect then.
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  • [04:39:56] <rcn-ee> okay, out for the night, have fun with xfce. .;)
  • [04:42:16] <Geeko> I will try.
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  • [05:50:01] <Geeko> How can I make xfce not automatically boot?
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  • [06:35:25] <hitlin37> IS there a USB host support in default android images.? or do all manufacture make them available in there devices..or some do n some don't ?
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  • [06:59:51] <dm8tbr> hitlin37: I have the feeling that this is custom so far.
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  • [07:00:45] <dm8tbr> could change with honeycomb?
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  • [07:12:26] <hitlin37> no idea with honecomb...will look now....
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  • [07:17:42] <hitlin37> confirmed with honeycomb,found this at honeycomb features:USB host mode support to support keyboards and USB hubs.
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  • [07:55:38] <aholler_> haha, 2.6.37.1 now learned that musb is a buggy hub. ;)
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  • [08:13:44] <jacekowski> i have old laptop lcd that's still working
  • [08:13:51] <jacekowski> is there anything cool i can do with it?
  • [08:14:51] <aholler> do it in the microwave oven
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  • [08:16:50] <jacekowski> it won't fit
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  • [09:54:45] <koen> http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beagleboard/flasher/
  • [09:54:48] <koen> have fun with that :)
  • [09:55:47] <arc_mat> can someone help me out with a little oe setup problem? bitbake is somehow acting up (or it's my python) and getting stuck scanning the recipes
  • [09:56:02] <aholler> koen: no uEnv.txt? ;)
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  • [10:01:10] <arc_mat> I'm getting a couple of python zombies and strace tells me nothing going on in bitbake land, everybody just sleeping on a read() call
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  • [10:06:19] <arc_mat> setup was via git clone git://git.angstrom-distribution.org/setup-scripts
  • [10:06:33] <arc_mat> then oebb.sh config beagleboard; oebb.sh update
  • [10:07:08] <arc_mat> and then the "universal test" bitbake nano gets, like, indefinitely stuck
  • [10:08:05] <speakman> which kernel is currently at use for beagle board?
  • [10:08:19] <aholler> .37.1 here
  • [10:08:25] <speakman> official?
  • [10:08:35] <speakman> (no ti omap branch or anything)
  • [10:09:02] <aholler> yes, vanilla
  • [10:09:27] <aholler> + 1 revert for musb
  • [10:11:03] <aholler> the revert: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/2/23/65
  • [10:12:59] <speakman> any idea if it will work with the long-term supported .35?
  • [10:14:24] <aholler> omap-support should be stable to rely on a long-term kernel.
  • [10:15:26] <speakman> I'm actually running a AM3517 but it should work as well right?
  • [10:16:42] <aholler> don't know. I would go with the latest and would consider even .38. there are still many omap-patches on the way into linus tree
  • [10:17:41] <speakman> ok? are there any unofficial tree which would be an even better choice?
  • [10:18:41] <aholler> I assume every unofficial tree is seen as a better choice, at least by the creator of such a tree. Otherwise they wouldn't exist.
  • [10:20:14] <aholler> try if linus tree matches your needs, if not, go searching patches ;)
  • [10:20:46] <speakman> ok, I just want it stable. No more no less :)
  • [10:20:57] <aholler> as almost everyone
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  • [10:23:40] <aholler> but .37 is maintained and you will get security updates and other fixes. So I would say that it the best choice if you don't have any specific problems with .37
  • [10:23:58] <speakman> ok, thanks alot!
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  • [11:17:26] <arc_mat> heh, fun. setup via git clone setup-scripts does not work, but followin the instructions on OE "Getting Started" step by step works...
  • [11:17:42] <arc_mat> or it's the bitbake version...
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  • [12:44:34] <koen> arc_mat: I used the setup scripts this morning and they worked fine
  • [12:44:55] <arc_mat> koen: might be a problem with the build host, opensuse 11.2 here
  • [12:45:46] <arc_mat> koen: I downloaded manually an older bitbake version 1.10.2, that one works
  • [12:46:19] <arc_mat> python 2.6.2 on my machine, maybe bitbake 1.20 needs a more recent version
  • [12:47:10] <arc_mat> koen: just one thing, I'm on oe master, should I switch to oe.dev?
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  • [12:51:20] <koen> arc_mat: you should use the setup scripts
  • [12:51:41] <koen> and opensuse seems to lack a ton of python modules, like the ply one
  • [12:53:33] <arc_mat> koen: possibly.
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  • [13:41:12] <koen> I wonder why I still reply to Gary Thomas type of emails
  • [13:41:41] <koen> it keeps my up at night since I can't believe people can be that dense
  • [13:42:12] <woglinde> koen hm it seems to me the binutils problem in xdc stuff isnt fixed 100%
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  • [13:43:13] <koen> woglinde: it depends on the component using it as well
  • [13:43:35] <koen> woglinde: I have a local diff to use some different version that make it work better
  • [13:43:47] <koen> but the end result will still fail in various ways
  • [13:43:55] <koen> since e.g. dmai hardcodes sysfs layout :(
  • [13:43:58] <woglinde> hm
  • [13:44:07] <woglinde> o.O
  • [13:44:39] <woglinde> why they do this?
  • [13:46:11] <Crofton|work> koen, it definitely helps not to be selective who you reply to
  • [13:54:16] <arc_mat> koen: setup-scripts work if I manually force the bitbake checkout to version 1.10.2 after "oebb.sh update"
  • [13:54:48] <arc_mat> koen: so it's just that later bitbake doesn't work on opensuse 11.2
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  • [15:48:58] * koen is feeling a lot like av500 today
  • [15:49:01] <cbrake> is the TI WL1271 supported in OE?
  • [15:49:17] <koen> cbrake: depends
  • [15:49:22] <cbrake> management of Wifi/Bt firmware, etc
  • [15:49:37] <koen> cbrake: the driver is in mainline 2.6.37 and the wifi firmware is public
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  • [15:50:10] <koen> the bt firmware is still unavailable
  • [15:50:13] <cbrake> koen: ok, that part seems to be working OK for us
  • [15:50:15] <koen> well, initscript
  • [15:50:30] * koen is on a conference call with the wl12xx people right now
  • [15:50:32] <cbrake> koen: ahh, IC. We have been stuggling to figure out the BT side
  • [15:50:50] <cbrake> koen: tell them we would really appreciate BT support in 2.6.37 :-)
  • [15:51:40] <koen> supposedly hciattach /dev/ttyS1 texas 3000000 just works
  • [15:52:02] <koen> the driver in staging/ for the bt part doesn't seem to work
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  • [15:52:35] <koen> cbrake: I'll be talking to the bt engineer in ??23 hours, so I should know more after that
  • [15:52:47] <koen> cbrake: we're bringing up a wl12xx daughtercard for beagleboard
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  • [15:53:09] <cbrake> koen: cool, be interested in what you find
  • [15:53:38] <cbrake> koen: we have custom hardware with OMAP3530 + WL1271 here, plus I have a Pandaboard that I should try to get running one of these days
  • [15:53:54] <koen> panda is in a weird situation
  • [15:54:12] <koen> it has the pre mac80211 modules, but the kernel has backports for mac80211
  • [15:54:50] <cbrake> koen: hmm, sounds confusing
  • [15:54:52] <aholler> modules=hw?
  • [15:55:02] <cbrake> koen: does 2.6.37 run on Panda yet?
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  • [15:56:19] <koen> aholler: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/5370010264/
  • [15:56:28] <koen> cbrake: no, .38rc might
  • [15:57:58] <aholler> koen: I have enough bt-dongles. ;) my question was if you meant with modules the hw on the panda.
  • [15:58:00] <ogra> .38 runs
  • [15:58:05] <ogra> but without any graphics
  • [15:58:12] <ogra> nor sund
  • [15:58:14] <ogra> *sound
  • [15:58:29] <ogra> (and probably with other glitches)
  • [15:58:34] <koen> aholler: it's the same wl1271 module from LSR as the panda is using, yes
  • [16:00:35] <bioster> ok, so I've compiled a simple helloworld app with bitbake and openembedded
  • [16:01:14] <bioster> when I try to install it onto the ubuntu system on my beagleboard (using dpkg) it complains: package architecture (armv7a) does not match system (armel)
  • [16:01:34] <bioster> What's the difference between armv7a and armel?
  • [16:02:34] <arc_mat> koen: I'm sure av500 is feeling splendid today, unless it didn't stop snowing and he can't get out on his snowboard :)
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  • [16:06:14] <cbrake> koen: "hciattach /dev/ttyS1 texas 3000000" does not seem to be working for us
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  • [16:07:47] <wmat> tincantools has 4 trainer boards in stock again, if anyone was looking to order one.
  • [16:08:06] * wmat just bought one
  • [16:08:18] <cbrake> a little more information on TI wifi/bt: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM18x_Wireless_Connectivity_Release_Notes_Alpha_release
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  • [16:18:13] <koen> bioster: use angstrom on your beagle
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  • [16:28:59] <wmat> bioster: you can always try using --force-architecture flag with dpkg, although I'd probably listent o koen and just use Angstrom
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  • [16:30:34] <bioster> So, what's the difference between the two?
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  • [16:32:54] <wmat> bioster: armel targets all older arm archs, such as arm4t, armv5, armv6 whereas armv4t-a includes VFP + NEON instructions (I think). That's from memory though, so googling could prove me wrong.
  • [16:33:35] <bioster> so in theory an armv7a binary should be a little faster?
  • [16:35:09] <wmat> bioster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture
  • [16:36:41] <bioster> yes, that lists the various arm architectures
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  • [16:37:31] <stas-a> Hello, Has anyone been successful at running Froyo on BB Xm WITH THE DSP ENABLED?
  • [16:37:41] <bioster> but I guess what I'm wondering is: can I run into problems with binaries compiled for armv7a on a distribution that's compiled for armel?
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  • [16:38:53] <bioster> and if I might run into problems, how do I retarget oe+bitbake to produce 'armel' binaries instead
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  • [16:41:10] <koen> bioster: just use angstrom on your beagle
  • [16:42:07] <arc_mat> :-)
  • [16:42:07] <bioster> uh
  • [16:42:07] <bioster> wtf?
  • [16:42:07] <bioster> The owner of this group has banned you from this group.
  • [16:42:07] <bioster> I've been banned from the beagleboard mailing list?
  • [16:42:08] <koen> you're currently building angstrom binaries for your ubuntu system, that's not going to work
  • [16:42:26] <bioster> koen: ok, I'll give angstrom a whirl... but the download will take a bit
  • [16:42:36] <bioster> it's only going at 12k/sec
  • [16:43:45] <bioster> So, who runs the beagleboard mailing list, and how do I find out why I've been banned?
  • [16:43:48] <stas-a> Question again - has anyone been successful getting Android on BB xm ?
  • [16:44:55] <aholler> ask harder
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  • [16:46:46] <dm8tbr> then everyone would know how much it sucks?
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  • [21:53:37] <jkridner> oh?
  • [21:53:39] <mru> /msg nickserv ghost nick passwd
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  • [21:54:49] <djlewis_> gotta love it
  • [21:56:25] <mru> that's the main weakness of irc
  • [21:56:34] <mru> the servers have a strict tree topology
  • [21:58:52] <mru> a generic mesh would be more resiliant
  • [22:00:00] <mru> but harder to implement of course
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  • [22:02:41] <spikebike> mru: are you sure?
  • [22:02:42] <spikebike> I though it was more of a mesh, much like usenet
  • [22:02:43] <mru> then it wouldn't have all those netsplits
  • [22:02:48] <spikebike> wow, kinda disappointing
  • [22:02:49] <spikebike> I suspect there's been dozens of irc replacements floated, problem is getting anyone to switch
  • [22:02:54] <mru> I could be wrong of course
  • [22:02:56] <mru> I haven't read the actual protocol spec
  • [22:02:56] <mru> the problem with replacements is that they're not any better
  • [22:02:58] <djlewis_> mru: thought he was wrong once but he was mistaken . . . :)
  • [22:02:58] <mru> irc is one of the good, old protocols
  • [22:03:02] <mru> the ones that do their thing, do it reasonably well, and don't get in your way
  • [22:03:03] <spikebike> the only feasible irc replace I've come across is silv
  • [22:03:03] <spikebike> oops
  • [22:03:03] <spikebike> silc
  • [22:03:04] <mru> name sounds familiar
  • [22:03:14] <Crofton|work> anyone here familiar with dma_sync_single_for_device?
  • [22:03:17] <mru> sounds like a kernel function
  • [22:03:18] <Crofton|work> yeah
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  • [22:47:00] <djlewis_> yep, another un attended cpu reset :P
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  • [23:52:33] <Newbie_Angstrom> hi everyone :)
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  • [23:55:52] <Pradeep> Hello All..
  • [23:56:16] <Newbie_Angstrom> hi
  • [23:57:53] <Pradeep> I am building an Angstrom image using Openembedded tool chain.. followed http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom..
  • [23:58:16] <Pradeep> but am stuck while MACHINE=beagleboard ./oebb.sh bitbake console-image
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  • [23:58:36] <Pradeep> NOTE: package freetype-2.4.3-r0: task do_install: Started ERROR: Logfile of failure stored in: /host/Pradeep/Angstrom/setup_scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/freetype-2.4.3-r0/temp/log.do_install.15266
  • [23:58:48] <Pradeep> can somebody throw some pointers on this..
  • [23:59:56] <Pradeep> | /usr/lib/libc.a: could not read symbols: File format not recognized | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status | arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-libtool: install: error: relink `/host/Pradeep/Angstrom/setup_scripts/build/tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/freetype-2.4.3-r0/freetype-2.4.3/objs/libfreetype.la' with the above command before installing it