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  • [03:03:29] <xxiao> anyone knows where is arm linux's git, i.e. the git repo before kernel.org where various arm arch code are staged?
  • [03:04:04] <xxiao> the arm git that waits for linus's pull that is, is there one repo like that?
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  • [03:33:43] <pupnik> i don't
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  • [03:36:10] <cmwslw> anyone know where i can get the datasheet for the OMAP3730?
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  • [06:01:25] <davilla> has anyone done any work on yv12 -> rgb color space convert using neon ?
  • [06:02:59] <pupnik> working on xbmc for omap3?
  • [06:03:28] <topfs2> lol, cant hide that ghost ;)
  • [06:04:34] <topfs2> and xbmc on omap3 does not need yv12 - rgb, its done via neon to yuv420 and then omap overlay as done on omapfb
  • [06:04:38] <topfs2> *done in omapfb
  • [06:04:49] <topfs2> just need to merge that into trunk...
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  • [06:07:37] <davilla> ios devices, yuv-rgb shader is too slow
  • [06:08:09] <davilla> ffmpegs swscaler has not neon accelleration :(
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  • [06:18:56] <marcelocb> hhhh
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  • [06:35:40] <hitlin37> good morning all
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  • [08:31:27] <mru> topfs2: I have neon yuv to rgb code
  • [08:31:52] <mru> what is your offer?
  • [08:33:42] <koen> a keg of surstr??mming ?
  • [08:35:40] <pupnik> thanks for the documentation koen and mru
  • [08:37:42] <koen> docs?
  • [08:39:00] <pupnik> yes i'm seeing both of your footprints everywhere
  • [08:39:49] <pupnik> and i ~love~ this angstrom distro - i have gcc, gdb, development libs everything... in 300 MB!
  • [08:39:58] <pupnik> i haven't had such a compact *nix since the NeXT
  • [08:40:15] <pupnik> (Archos A70S)
  • [08:40:21] <pupnik> having a great time!
  • [08:42:13] <ds2> is the A70 actually buyable?
  • [08:42:31] <pupnik> i got mine a few weeks ago
  • [08:43:48] <ds2> pupnik: how long ago did you order it?
  • [08:45:19] <pupnik> 30. november - arrived 13. december
  • [08:46:54] <ds2> hmmm the official store doesn't even accept orders for it
  • [08:47:01] <ds2> 2 weeks looks reasonable
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  • [09:06:58] <_av500_> ds2: nah, you will never order one
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  • [09:12:18] <ds2> _av500_: I found the forum thread... apparently availably changes by the day
  • [09:12:30] <ds2> very very volatile stuff
  • [09:13:20] <_av500_> its hand to mouth
  • [09:15:05] <ds2> I did find an unknown use seller that seems to have stock but they are based in NY...home of numerous counterfieters so it'll take some research
  • [09:15:14] <ds2> s/use/us/
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  • [09:18:58] <beagleOCS> hi. which is a good lcd touchscreen (about the same size as the iphone) display for bboard?
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  • [09:34:20] <pupnik> https://specialcomp.com/beagleboard/BeagleLCD2.htm
  • [09:34:41] <pupnik> oh they're out
  • [09:36:25] <_av500_> pupnik: yes, ds2 is too lazy to make new ones
  • [09:36:51] <beagleOCS> pupnik: I wonder how much does it cost a bboard+lcd touchscreen + power supply + case
  • [09:37:02] <beagleOCS> all assembled by me
  • [09:37:06] <pupnik> is it the same as this ? http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8335
  • [09:37:49] <ds2> HUH?
  • [09:37:58] <ds2> I have 7" and 4.3" ones
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  • [09:38:12] <ds2> http://www.hy-research.com/estore2/
  • [09:38:23] <ds2> no, the sparkfun ones are different.
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  • [09:38:38] <pupnik> no controller
  • [09:40:03] <beagleOCS> ??
  • [09:40:16] <ds2> controller?
  • [09:41:42] <beagleOCS> my question is that: how much does a bboard+touchscreen+power supply cost (and how much is cheaper compared to an iphone, for example)
  • [09:42:01] <pupnik> what do you want to do with it beagleOCS
  • [09:42:57] <pupnik> archos makes cheap omap3 tablets with touchscreen and angstrom .. now... so if you just want to do software hacking...
  • [09:43:26] <beagleOCS> pupnik: I want to assemble a tablet cheaper than iphone
  • [09:44:05] <aholler> the iphone is a phone, no tablet
  • [09:44:30] <beagleOCS> aholler: ipad
  • [09:45:22] <_av500_> beagleOCS: it wont be cheaper if you do one for yourself
  • [09:45:55] <beagleOCS> _av500_: why?
  • [09:46:16] <aholler> because you won't by hundred of thousands of parts?
  • [09:46:39] <beagleOCS> aholler: but I can buy each component....
  • [09:46:48] <ds2> if you do a few thousand....
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  • [09:48:03] <pupnik> beagleOCS: i bought an archos 7.0 (a70s) for 250 euro with omap3640 @ 1ghz, 256MB, 7" screen, 800x480 capacitive
  • [09:48:08] <beagleOCS> so... if I assemble a tablet similar to ipad, using bboard and other stuff... it will cost more than an Iphone?
  • [09:48:47] <aholler> depends. if you use an usb-lcd it might get less.
  • [09:49:11] <aholler> but you will miss a nice case.
  • [09:49:20] <beagleOCS> in addition: I want to install my full customizable os and programs... does archos provide that?
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  • [09:52:12] <_av500_> yes
  • [09:52:27] <_av500_> you can run what u want
  • [09:52:42] <beagleOCS> _av500_: but what I've seen has windows!
  • [09:52:52] <pupnik> here's my favorite archos 7.0 video with song... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN_x7sY1XwQ
  • [09:53:13] <_av500_> beagleOCS: look again
  • [09:54:12] <beagleOCS> so, from what you say, beagleboard is not a convenient solution for making tablets?
  • [09:54:38] <ds2> depends on how custom you want it
  • [09:54:46] <ds2> BB can be prefectly convenient
  • [09:54:58] <ds2> just need to know what you are doing
  • [09:56:28] <beagleOCS> from what I see the only $$ application for bboard is xbmc....
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  • [10:01:18] <beagleOCS> there are a lot of "ideas" on the beagleboard website but none of it seem to be a good purchase... just hobbies
  • [10:02:01] <_av500_> purchase?
  • [10:02:45] <beagleOCS> sorry: none of them seem good for selling a product
  • [10:04:32] <aholler> do you want to compete to chinese tablet builders?
  • [10:05:03] <beagleOCS> aholler: no... I would like to buy a beagleboard, build an application and sell it
  • [10:05:04] <beagleOCS> :)
  • [10:07:05] <beagleOCS> but all the projects that I see for beagleboard don't seem good for that
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  • [10:15:16] <aholler> beagleOCS: thats an oportunity to be the first and just a "me too" ;)
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  • [10:19:11] <beagleOCS> aholler: what the website says seems great, but all the applications that one can do with beagleboard actually don't go beyond "hobbies"
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  • [10:20:18] <aholler> other people usually buy dev-boards with support
  • [10:20:41] <beagleOCS> aholler: what does it change?
  • [10:21:19] <bgm2010> does anyone have the xm in stock right now?
  • [10:23:25] <aholler> beagleOCS: the website
  • [10:24:22] <beagleOCS> aholler: this means that beagleboard doesn't go beyond hobbies
  • [10:24:50] <aholler> no
  • [10:24:58] <beagleOCS> why not?
  • [10:25:14] <beagleOCS> all the possible applications are just for hobby
  • [10:26:01] <aholler> htan offer your application for inclusion in the listing
  • [10:26:17] <beagleOCS> ?
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  • [10:29:44] <teja> hi, so after a lot of pointers from this community i got the lbcmvga module to run, i am trying to view the video feed using mplayer... this is the command i give mplayer -tv device=/dev/video0 -vo x11 tv://
  • [10:29:55] <teja> it works fine for a minute or two and then freezes up
  • [10:30:14] <teja> and i have to reboot the board
  • [10:30:39] <teja> any pointers on how to use mplayer properly?
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  • [10:45:34] <rodrigo_golive> happy new year! :D
  • [11:01:17] <teja> :/
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  • [11:09:45] <beagleOCS> is there an I/O module for beagleboard?
  • [11:16:14] <adj> beagleOCS: something like this? http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer
  • [11:24:27] <beagleOCS> adj: thanks
  • [11:25:00] <beagleOCS> how much does a ethernet wifi adapter cost for the beagleboard?
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  • [11:25:48] <mru> same as for anything else
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  • [11:27:08] <beagleOCS> mru: I want to send tcp data from a bboard to a server, through a wifi connection... is there a low-cost solution for that?
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  • [11:27:37] <mru> there are cheap usb wifi sticks
  • [11:27:58] <beagleOCS> mru: and then I see an additional ethernet port?
  • [11:28:12] <mru> same as wifi on any machine
  • [11:28:22] <beagleOCS> I see
  • [11:29:01] <beagleOCS> thanks
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  • [14:43:54] <koen> lyakh: any progress with your 5M sensor?
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  • [14:44:51] <jkridner|work> good morning all
  • [14:45:42] <lyakh> koen: yeah... it works for me;) but I'm too lazy to bring it to a proper shape... I am doing this right now, but veeeery slowly... maybe I just have to through away all the cruft and post it bare-bone with just very basic operations
  • [14:46:06] <lyakh> koen: and anyway it would be hardly usable to anyone
  • [14:46:23] <lyakh> first you need omap3isp patches from Laurent
  • [14:46:46] <lyakh> then there is still a hack, that I need to get it to run with his stack
  • [14:46:56] <lyakh> then it still produces 10-bit Bayer
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  • [14:47:17] <lyakh> I can shift it to 8-bit Bayer, but that requires even more patching
  • [14:47:37] <lyakh> and even then - 8-bit Bayer is not very well supported by many tools...
  • [14:48:10] <lyakh> koen: is there any real need for it?
  • [14:48:20] <lyakh> or just an academic interest?;)
  • [14:50:28] <koen> checkbox on my "does it work?" list :)
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  • [14:55:45] <lyakh> koen: ah, and that's all? ok, you can check it:)
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  • [15:06:37] <Jordinar> Hello, I'm using a new beagleboard-xm. I've connected a straight-through 9-pin male-to-female serial cable between PC and Board and expected to get an U-Boot prompt ...... do I need anything else?
  • [15:07:04] <koen> lyakh: I'd like to have all camera boards on my desk working
  • [15:07:18] <koen> lyakh: the vga and 3M work with .32, and it seems you made the 5M work with .37
  • [15:07:31] <jkridner|work> Jordinar: did you set it to 115200N81?
  • [15:08:27] <Jordinar> Yes....
  • [15:08:35] <Jordinar> 115200 8N1
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  • [15:09:08] <koen> jkridner|work: good morning!
  • [15:09:36] <Jordinar> Can I expect anything visible when connecting the HDMI with a monitor and a standard usb keyboard?
  • [15:10:46] <aholler> maybe smoke, depends on the power plug ;)
  • [15:11:06] <rodrigo_golive> hey, I'm new on android development; there are a way to develop using only c/c++? or just with ndk?
  • [15:12:33] <rodrigo_golive> ouch, wrong channel
  • [15:12:37] <rodrigo_golive> sorry
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  • [15:17:46] <lyakh> koen: as I said, it's not a mainline kernel - it's with the still experimental off-tree media-controller / omap3isp driver stack, which "should" make it in with 2.6.39...
  • [15:19:23] <Jordinar> I have only a red LED when connecting Power to the beagleboard-XM ...... is that normal?
  • [15:22:25] <koen> jkridner|work: in case you missed it: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/angstrom-distro-devel/2011-January/004292.html
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  • [15:28:17] <jkridner|work> Jordinar: no, that means that you have the wrong voltage input.
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  • [15:29:06] <Jordinar> It is set to 4.5V ... next setting would be 6V
  • [15:29:28] <Jordinar> is it not tolerant enough to run with 4.5 instead of 5?
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  • [15:30:42] <djlewis> Jordinar: if that is a standard switchable wall wart you may be getting 7 from 4.5 position
  • [15:31:03] <djlewis> did you measure?
  • [15:31:39] <jkridner|work> koen: thanks for the report.
  • [15:32:46] <lyakh> djlewis: heh, I was lucky with the first such PS, that was precise enough, as I've bough another one I've had suuuuuuch eyes, when I actually measured, what it produced;)
  • [15:33:19] <lyakh> s/bough/bought/
  • [15:33:39] <djlewis> lyakh: i have a switchable that is much higher out than its setting.
  • [15:34:31] <djlewis> and the BeagleBoard does not draw sufficient to load one down.
  • [15:34:33] <lyakh> djlewis: I was lucky enough - I measured it on the very same day and brought it back immediately:)
  • [15:35:10] <djlewis> I use regulated usb hub type.
  • [15:36:05] <jkridner|work> measuring is indeed your best bet. the voltage detection circuit is fairly sensitive to *attempt* to protect the board from people giving it the wrong voltages. 4.5V probably won't work, since the 5V is fed directly in some places.
  • [15:37:05] <Jordinar> so there is a actually no risk if I try with higher voltage?
  • [15:37:29] <Jordinar> another supply with 4.5V gives two green LEDs on the board, but still nothing via serial port
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  • [15:37:48] <beagleOCS> which are advantages of beagleboard compared to hawkboard?
  • [15:39:10] <jkridner|work> beagleOCS: much faster ARM core is #1. larger and more active community and hardware support as of now (though I could see that *possibly* change over time if hawkboard production issues are overcome, since it is affordable, well-supported in India, and has a floating point DSP).
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  • [15:39:27] <koen> jkridner|work: I have qt/e working now with yocto, so matrix should work
  • [15:39:31] <Jordinar> is there any feedback via LEDs when using the reset button? any switching/blinking LEDs?
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  • [15:39:52] <rajesh> i'm trying to move away from my sheevaplug running debian testing, to a beagleboard-xm. any suggestions what my equivalent distro should be? i don't see a sheeva-with-linux equivalent and most of my googling returns angstrom. and ... ubuntu...
  • [15:40:02] <beagleOCS> jkridner|work: thanks
  • [15:40:03] <jkridner|work> Jordinar: do you have the SD card plugged in?
  • [15:40:22] <koen> rajesh: just use angstrom, if you want to run debian, buy a mini2410
  • [15:40:31] <Jordinar> yes and no. It doesn't matter
  • [15:40:33] <jkridner|work> beagleOCS: 3D graphics acceleration might also be a reason to use the BeagleBoard.
  • [15:40:35] <rajesh> what do most people use on the bb? something that's stable and has a good s/w repo
  • [15:40:49] <jkridner|work> Jordinar: the u-boot is on the SD card for the xM.
  • [15:41:15] <Jordinar> ah okay ...
  • [15:41:20] <koen> jkridner|work: this is what I was talking about last month: http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/leaf-maple-cortex-m3-p-670.html?cPath=132_137&zenid=7de702f4fed11c5a23f6127953c06738
  • [15:41:24] <jkridner|work> otherwise, all you should get out of the serial port is a "40x", where 'x' is a letter reflecting the ROM version.
  • [15:41:50] <Jordinar> I get "60" now.
  • [15:42:03] <Jordinar> nothing else.
  • [15:42:10] <koen> jkridner|work: s/ROM version/omap version/
  • [15:42:23] <koen> 40 is for 35xx, 60 for 36xx
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  • [15:43:27] <jkridner|work> koen: looks interesting.... too bad it isn't a Stellaris.
  • [15:43:31] <rajesh> koen: ok. i can use angstrom. i'm guessing we can burn the kernel and bootloader to the internal flash and not have to run everything off the sd card?
  • [15:43:43] <jkridner|work> Jordinar: that is right for not having an SD card plugged in with MLO/u-boot on it.
  • [15:43:46] <koen> there's no flash on xM
  • [15:43:59] <rajesh> aha!
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  • [15:44:37] <jkridner|work> koen: I'm not sure that it isn't just tied to the ROM code version. Do you know how to relate it to the PG version?
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  • [15:45:35] <jkridner|work> koen: were you around for the discussion that we wanted to create a new tool that would just write MLO to the boot sector?
  • [15:45:49] <Jordinar> is there a guide to put an Ubuntu + required UBoot on the same SD card for a bootable version?
  • [15:46:23] <jkridner|work> Jordinar: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
  • [15:46:35] <koen> jkridner|work: it's the ASIC ID
  • [15:46:35] <jkridner|work> the very first link if you search beagleboard and ubuntu.
  • [15:46:46] <koen> 40t -> 34 30 07 57
  • [15:46:51] <rajesh> koen: so it's basically like running a live-cd, on the sd card. and the sd card is really there to provide for the OS, not really for data storage?
  • [15:47:00] <koen> which is 40 <bell> W in ascii
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  • [15:47:19] <koen> rajesh: you can use the SD for anything you want
  • [15:48:22] <rajesh> koen: true. just thinking of a case where someone might want to eject the sd card and copy data from it, and this causing disruptions because the OS also runs off the same storage medium.
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  • [15:52:17] <rajesh> i suppose i could offload that task to another board...
  • [15:52:42] <rajesh> i think i'll try angstrom out. thanks for the inputs, koen.
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  • [16:40:47] <mru> yes
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  • [17:19:21] <topfs2> mru: is blood from a virgin enough?
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  • [17:44:16] <mru> topfs2: I'd settle for the virgin
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  • [17:54:59] <topfs2> See if I can find one for you then
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  • [18:07:27] <koen> av500: is archos using HS or GP devices?
  • [18:07:44] <koen> and if GP, are the crypto blocks useable?
  • [18:08:33] <dm8tbr> I don't think Archos uses HS. haven't checked on gen8 though.
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  • [18:53:15] <_av500_> gp
  • [18:53:26] <_av500_> i tired aes on gen6, that worked
  • [18:53:29] <_av500_> tried
  • [18:53:34] <_av500_> 3430
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  • [18:54:19] <koen> I tried on xM and it didn't
  • [18:54:24] <koen> might be missing 36xx defines
  • [18:55:02] <_av500_> i cant recall a reason why it should not work
  • [19:00:21] <koen> the factory was being vague about it working or not
  • [19:00:51] <koen> "HS and some GP devices" was the clearest I got
  • [19:01:08] <_av500_> some?
  • [19:01:21] <koen> exactly
  • [19:01:22] <_av500_> remember, 36xx is just a shrink :)
  • [19:01:39] <koen> I said that in a meeting recently
  • [19:02:04] <koen> I don't think marketing likes me anymore ;)
  • [19:02:41] <_av500_> ...1st ones up against the wall when the revolution comes...
  • [19:03:07] <dm8tbr> not earlier?
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  • [19:04:56] <koen> w00t burger, is that like burger king?
  • [19:06:43] <dm8tbr> still no burger king in .fi :(
  • [19:08:53] <mru> in russia they have burger czar?
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  • [19:10:40] <rajesh> is the image on the mini-sd that ships with the beagle-xm the angstrom demo image?
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  • [19:15:09] <rajesh> angstrom 2010.7-test-20100820
  • [19:16:08] <rajesh> i suppose 'test' means demo... i donno.
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  • [20:09:50] <rajesh> i think i've been waiting for an hour for narcissus to finish building an image.
  • [20:10:26] <Crofton|work> how big an image?
  • [20:10:59] <rajesh> Current uncompressed image size: 34M
  • [20:11:16] <koen> Load average: 28.71
  • [20:11:58] <rajesh> i happened to stumble on the releases page from someplace else. is there a single page that walks one through the install process?
  • [20:12:20] <koen> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [20:12:46] <rajesh> koen: much better! thanks.
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  • [21:15:05] <prpplague> emeb: ping
  • [21:18:08] <emeb> prpplague: pong
  • [21:20:25] <ds2> Hmmmm
  • [21:20:50] <emeb> ds2: hows it going?
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  • [21:24:54] <Crofton|work> hmm, I wonder how to get Beagleboard to twitter the USRP-E100
  • [21:24:56] <prpplague> emeb: hey, just a quick brain pick, what do you normally use for your via size/drill when doing 8/8 traces?
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  • [21:25:20] <koen> Crofton|work: ehm, what?
  • [21:25:26] <emeb> prpplague: just a moment...
  • [21:26:48] <ds2> emeb: relaxing before things pick up
  • [21:26:54] <koen> Crofton|work: ah, I get it now
  • [21:26:57] <koen> Crofton|work: poke kridner
  • [21:27:02] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [21:27:11] <Crofton|work> no good link though :)
  • [21:27:38] <koen> I initially thought you meant that you wanted to have your beagleboard twitter stuff to the e100
  • [21:27:48] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [21:27:48] <koen> and I was thinking "isn't ssh good enough?"
  • [21:28:18] <Crofton|work> I want to use twitter as a transport for ssh
  • [21:28:30] <emeb> prpplague: looks like my signal vias are drilled 0.020
  • [21:28:46] <emeb> prpplague: and my power vias are drilled 0.035
  • [21:29:35] <emeb> prpplague: according the fab layer on my gEDA/PCB output gerbs
  • [21:29:38] <ds2> emeb: anything freeze in the last few days?
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  • [21:29:53] <emeb> ds2: Looks like we got by w/o any damage.
  • [21:30:14] <emeb> ds2: low temp here was about 28F according to the thermometer I set out the other day.
  • [21:30:20] <prpplague> emeb: thanks
  • [21:30:35] <ds2> emeb: I see... so it was just the poor suckers that needed I17 that was hosed?
  • [21:30:35] <emeb> ds2: some greens in the garden got a little wilty looking, but they're perking up again.
  • [21:30:38] <emeb> prpplague: NP
  • [21:31:06] <emeb> ds2: yep - I17 south of Flagstaff was pretty well hosed
  • [21:31:15] <emeb> seems that's all cleared up now though
  • [21:31:27] <koen> chase: why aren't I seeing matrix SRCREV patches on the OE list?
  • [21:31:35] <ds2> I see
  • [21:33:59] <emeb> ds2: could see some snow at low elev. on the mtns east of town (4peaks) too. Always pretty to get that.
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  • [21:34:41] <ds2> emeb: due east or south east (like the superstition area?) not familiar with 4peaks
  • [21:35:28] <emeb> ds2: 4 Peaks is north of Supes. Northeast of Phx area actually.
  • [21:35:54] <emeb> ds2: If you've ever driven out 87 (Beeline Hwy) to Payson then you went past 'em.
  • [21:36:35] <ds2> ah, okay
  • [21:36:56] <ds2> this is south of tonto NF, I take it?
  • [21:37:11] <emeb> Pretty much.
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  • [23:39:44] <Crofton|work> damn, I constantly forget the command to disasm code
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  • [23:41:08] <Crofton|work> not od
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