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  • [00:06:27] <ds2> *nod* so i much rather it give me access to a nice 455KHz IF
  • [00:06:33] <ds2> then I can do digital all the way
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  • [00:23:51] <djsashaz> hey everyone
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  • [00:38:47] <djsashaz> does anyone know what may cause the text to go to a greenish colour instead of white, while using the s-video out? I did something but I don't know what
  • [00:40:34] <mru> pixel format misconfiguration
  • [00:41:03] <mru> 32-bit framebuffer, I take it?
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  • [00:41:26] <djsashaz> how would i fix it
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  • [00:41:50] <mru> I'd suggest going to 16-bit instead
  • [00:42:02] <mru> you won't tell the difference on s-video anyway
  • [00:43:12] <djsashaz> but does will it pick up that for the NTSC option in the boot args?
  • [00:47:32] <Max_Galemin> hi! can anyone please help me with RPM installation? I have the next problem: http://pastebin.com/TLz2qADi
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  • [00:56:49] <Max_Galemin> after "rpm -vv --initdb" and "rpm -vv --rebuilddb" I see the same errors "rpmdb: mmap: Invalid argument"
  • [00:59:15] <Max_Galemin> mmm?
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  • [01:01:54] <djsashaz> anyone know why I cant execute even ls from terminal? I keep getting cannot execute binary file on every command
  • [01:10:57] <ds2> loader not groking executable?
  • [01:11:01] <ds2> libc foobared?
  • [01:11:19] <djsashaz> easy fix?
  • [01:12:28] <rcn-ee> does /bin/ls work?
  • [01:14:36] <djsashaz> no
  • [01:14:53] <djsashaz> ah yes
  • [01:14:54] <djsashaz> it does
  • [01:15:00] <djsashaz> now it does, before it wasnt working
  • [01:15:15] <djlewis> magic
  • [01:15:16] <djsashaz> i thought it was a path problem
  • [01:15:18] <djsashaz> lol
  • [01:15:24] <djsashaz> so what did I do?
  • [01:15:34] <rcn-ee> well, what does "/bin/echo $PATH" show..
  • [01:15:41] <djlewis> rcn-ee: has that effect on problems
  • [01:16:04] <rcn-ee> i might be the evil mastermind that creates it to.. ;)
  • [01:16:15] <djsashaz> blank
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  • [01:17:01] <Max_Galemin> can anyone tell something about RPM? :)
  • [01:17:35] <djlewis> revolutions per minute ;)
  • [01:17:56] <djlewis> I bet he wants to slap me big time :)
  • [01:18:18] <rcn-ee> djsashaz, which dist, angstrom/debian/ubuntu...
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  • [01:18:37] <djsashaz> ubuntu
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  • [01:19:39] <Max_Galemin> djlewis: yep, thanks... :)
  • [01:19:57] <djlewis> always here to help :)
  • [01:20:17] <Max_Galemin> why can't I create database for rpm?
  • [01:20:54] <rcn-ee> djsashaz, something like ( export PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:$PATH" ) should get you going again..
  • [01:21:56] <rcn-ee> it should have been in your .bashrc/or_some_random_place_ubuntu_moved it..
  • [01:22:04] <Max_Galemin> p.s. data base for package management system, not for revolutions per minute :))
  • [01:23:01] <djsashaz> thanks
  • [01:23:03] <djsashaz> back up and running
  • [01:23:05] <djsashaz> ;)
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  • [01:24:24] * djlewis should have said to feed the mouse in the cage to incerase RPM :)
  • [01:24:39] <djlewis> s/incerase/increase
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  • [01:52:09] <ds2> watch the surface speed of teh mouse cage, don't want it exploding on you!
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  • [01:53:35] <djlewis> or worse, dont overfeed the mouse
  • [01:54:18] <ds2> just need to get the right breed of mice so all you get is a shower of pellets when you overfeed ;)
  • [01:54:33] <djlewis> lol
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  • [02:13:38] <Max_Galemin> hmmmm... ok, RPM packet manager has an issue with DB on jffs2 filesystem so in order to force it work you should create "/etc/rpm/macros.rpmdb" file and add the next line to this file: "%__dbi_cdb create private nommap txn"
  • [02:13:55] <buZz> put it in the wiki <3
  • [02:14:15] <Max_Galemin> what wiki? :)
  • [02:14:40] <buZz> the elinux.org one i guess
  • [02:14:50] <buZz> beagleboard's site links there as nr2 link ;)
  • [02:15:37] <buZz> create a page for it, or find some collection page of smaller tips and add it
  • [02:16:48] <Max_Galemin> basically I don't have access to this wiki, I can only read :)
  • [02:17:27] <buZz> top of the page has 'login/register'
  • [02:17:39] <buZz> once you are registered and logged in you get edit/create rights
  • [02:18:25] <buZz> its the common thing to do, and the only way you can know for sure that someone someday will read your hint after running into trouble with a beagleboard on jffs2 running the rpm packet manager with DB
  • [02:18:29] <buZz> :P
  • [02:19:04] <Max_Galemin> ok, thanks for this info :)
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  • [02:20:03] <buZz> yw :)
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  • [04:25:57] <whatnick> hi folks I am trying to compile an opencv app on the beagle and getting .. issues with /usr/lib/libavformat.so.52:
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  • [04:54:00] <htns> has anyone ported android froyo to beagle-xm?
  • [04:55:30] <rcn-ee> google rowboat
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  • [05:53:37] <thurbad> whatnick do you have the latest ffmpeg stuff installed?
  • [05:54:37] <whatnick> thurbad: installing libavcodec52 fixed it
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  • [06:29:53] <ds2> hmmm... the android stuff is just not complete thought out :/
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  • [06:54:50] <_av500_> ds2: use winphone7
  • [06:56:38] <ds2> and should I also use a car battery to run the beagle for higher speeds?
  • [06:58:32] <dm8tbr> ds2: obviously not d'uh!
  • [06:58:41] <dm8tbr> ds2: you should use 400V 3~!
  • [06:59:19] <ds2> ah right, the 3~ is to make sure it stays spinning
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  • [07:04:15] <dm8tbr> #beagle - friday - everyday!
  • [07:05:04] <Animule> copying 86.17GB....
  • [07:05:15] <Animule> ...man, i really miss the days when a 20GB HD was "big enough for everything"
  • [07:07:49] <dm8tbr> young whippersnapper! My A500 had 512k RAM and an 880k floppy and _that_ was enough for everything! (cue someone with an Z80 and an 8" floppy...)
  • [07:08:51] <tdh2002> i'm Thursday today -_-
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  • [07:11:57] <whatnick> i am thursday too
  • [07:13:04] <ds2> maybe someone can defend android - apparently apps can depend on having a trackball or like but such an item is not required so there are production android devices that just won't work right and there is no OSK w/arrows
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  • [07:17:20] <ku87> is it possible to output the traffic on the serial ports?
  • [07:17:35] <dm8tbr> define traffic
  • [07:18:54] <ku87> i have a uart based bt device. i want to see what data is being sent to the device and comming from the device
  • [07:19:19] <ku87> it could be any device not just bt that is connected to the uart
  • [07:22:40] <dm8tbr> I'm not sure what the best way in software is to snoop on an tty under linux
  • [07:23:22] <ds2> sure it is possible, just write the softwrae
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  • [07:24:47] <ku87> ds2: how? i dont understand
  • [07:32:27] <hitlin37> mov32 r5,table(.extern table)..it works on armcc...but gives bad instructoin on arm-gcc(ndk)
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  • [07:36:10] <hitlin37> ?
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  • [07:41:56] <ku87> sorry, i got dc
  • [07:46:27] <hitlin37> mov32 is a psuedo instruction...is it not on gcc
  • [07:51:35] <whatnick> beagleboard + kinect if anybody is interested http://whatnicklife.blogspot.com/2010/12/beagle-has-3-eyes-kinect-beagleboard.html
  • [07:52:04] <spvensko_> whatnick, very cool!
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  • [08:02:52] <hitlin37> nice
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  • [08:04:20] <av500> ds2: yes, that was a stupid mistake
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  • [08:21:04] <DesktopMa> whatnick: how's the opencv performance? did you use the dsp port?
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  • [08:36:30] <av500> what dsp port?
  • [08:37:03] <DesktopMa> http://code.google.com/p/opencv-dsp-acceleration/
  • [08:38:27] <av500> that one runs certain ops on the dsp
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  • [08:43:23] <DesktopMa> yeah hopefully there will bemore
  • [08:43:28] <DesktopMa> I haven't tried it
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  • [08:54:45] <koen> there's a lot of work being done with c6accel + opencv
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  • [09:01:12] <Max_Galemin> hi all! could you please tell me where can I find sources for "killproc" and "runuser"?
  • [09:02:01] <Max_Galemin> these utils should be a part of coreutils but I can't find them in coreutils sources
  • [09:02:56] * av500 never used any of these
  • [09:08:20] <Max_Galemin> me too... I need to cross-compile for ARM and migrate program and RPM package from centos 5.2 so I guess these are quite old utils
  • [09:09:15] <tasslehoff> Anyone know the rationale behind not having NAND on XM?
  • [09:10:10] <av500> not again
  • [09:10:33] <tasslehoff> av500: common question?
  • [09:10:39] <av500> 1) cheaper
  • [09:10:46] <av500> 2) less support hassle
  • [09:10:49] <av500> 3) to annoy ds2
  • [09:11:05] <tasslehoff> 4) less support tassle?
  • [09:11:12] <av500> that too
  • [09:11:48] <av500> tasslehoff: if you need fixed storage, solder a 2nd mmc slot and by done
  • [09:11:50] <av500> be
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  • [09:12:23] <koen> and 5) memory suppliers being a bitch about parts
  • [09:14:39] <av500> tasslehoff: I can sell you some spare B6s...
  • [09:15:46] <tasslehoff> av500: we made the same decision on our hw before xm was announced. these days I'm trying pondering things like filesystem choice on sd, when/how to fsck and failsafe softwareupgrades. My later experience with SD-cards and what TheInternet says make me a bit worried.
  • [09:15:54] <tasslehoff> av500: cool!
  • [09:16:29] <av500> tasslehoff: got those industry grade sdcards then
  • [09:16:31] <av500> get
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  • [09:16:38] <koen> or regular sandisks ones
  • [09:18:20] <tasslehoff> are there industry grad microSD-cards out there as well? we user micro.
  • [09:19:17] * av500 does not know
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  • [09:29:30] <malcoms> anyone solve the Android on Beagleboard-XM REV-B is deadly slow issue?
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  • [09:30:20] <av500> n
  • [09:30:24] <av500> o
  • [09:30:27] <av500> t
  • [09:30:29] <av500>
  • [09:30:31] <av500> y
  • [09:30:33] <av500> e
  • [09:30:36] <av500> t
  • [09:30:39] <av500> :
  • [09:30:41] <av500> (
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  • [09:32:38] <malcoms> is there any others people face this kind of issue
  • [09:32:47] <malcoms> android damn slow in bb-xm
  • [09:33:07] <av500> what android?
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  • [09:33:46] <stonecheng> hi, does anyone has encounter the issue, when start from the SD card, it hangs after shown "Loading u-boot.bin from mmc" on terminal
  • [09:33:54] <koen> I heard android is open, so download the codes from andy rubin and fix it
  • [09:34:11] <malcoms> froyo
  • [09:34:27] <av500> your own "port"?
  • [09:34:30] <tasslehoff> on boot I'm warned that I should fsck my disks. can it be forced on boot? I tried "shutdown -F -r now", but no.
  • [09:34:51] <malcoms> downloaded from ti
  • [09:34:57] <malcoms> prebuild image froyo
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  • [09:36:00] <aholler> often there are init-scripts which are doing this on startup if they see /forcefsck, so try touch /forcefsck;reboot
  • [09:36:12] <stonecheng> the system is running on ICETEK-OMAP3530-MINI board,and the packages got from http://code.google.com/p/omapminiboard/downloads/list
  • [09:37:36] <hitlin37> android works fine on xm a3 here
  • [09:38:09] <stonecheng> It needs run linux on the board, not android. thx
  • [09:38:52] <stonecheng> Does anyone has run linux on the same board?
  • [09:39:09] <stonecheng> ICETEK-OMAP3530-MINI (version 2)
  • [09:40:03] <tasslehoff> aholler: didn't work. these are partitions on an sd-card that udev mounts. could that be causing issues? perhaps I need them in /etc/fstab.
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  • [09:42:27] <aholler> tasslehoff: fstab is usually used for such things. ;)
  • [09:42:55] <tasslehoff> aholler: yeah. I see the checkroot-script fiddling with it.
  • [09:43:22] <aholler> see man fstab
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  • [10:29:45] <tasslehoff> The Beagle-default seems to be formatting and SD with fat32 & ext3 partitions and installing Angstrom. The ext3-partition is mounted by udev, and never fsck'ed. Is this sensible default behaviour? Do most people fix it themselves (by writing init-scripts, udev-rules or running fsck manually), or is fsck a hype?
  • [10:30:17] <tasslehoff> the above can also be read as: tasslehoff is annoyed that he is unable to fix it himself :)
  • [10:30:50] <av500> fix what?
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  • [10:34:33] <aholler> what does mounted by udev mean? paste the output of mount and cat /etc/fstab to a pastebin of your choice.
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  • [10:48:41] <likewise> gm
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  • [10:50:55] <tasslehoff> aholler: this is what I tried now. http://pastebin.com/iUv6rPAr. I have blacklisted /dev/mmcblk0 in udev.
  • [10:52:07] <mru> anyone know where jkridner is these days?
  • [10:52:34] <av500> vacation?
  • [10:52:40] <tasslehoff> by "mounted by udev" I meant that with a default angstrom, there are noe /dev/mmcblk-entries in fstab, so a udev will call a script to mount the partitions.
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  • [10:54:33] <tasslehoff> av500: force an fsck on all my sd-cards ext3-partitions on reboot.
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  • [10:56:23] <mru> morning _roger_
  • [10:56:30] <_roger_> hey mru!
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  • [10:57:10] <_roger_> your netsync app is superb - been running for 2 days looping now :) - nice work man
  • [10:57:15] <aholler> tasslehoff: just disable the automount-feature of udev and use proper entries in fstab, e.g. /dev/mmcblk0p1 /boot and /dev/mmcblk0p2 /. But I don't know how angstrom handles the stuff. so someone else must answer that.
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  • [10:58:53] <tasslehoff> aholler: thanks. hopefully halfway there :).
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  • [11:00:36] <aholler> /dev/root looks somewhat suspicous and that rootfs-entry is somewhat unusually too
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  • [11:05:16] <tasslehoff> aholler: ok. that's from the default /etc/fstab in angstrom.
  • [11:09:57] <hgs> hi all, how do i specify the dns server name for ethernet in /etc/network/interfaces for angstrom distribution? i added dns-nameservers 206.x.x.x under "iface eth0 inet static", but it is not helping
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  • [11:10:44] <aholler> hgs: resolv.conf is used for that
  • [11:11:23] <hgs> yes if i do echo namespace.. it works, but why is it not reading from /etc/network/interfaces?
  • [11:11:47] <hgs> is it the way how it works or some thing is wrong here?
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  • [11:12:48] <cwillu_at_work> that... circuit... was.... not... suppposed... to... be... live...
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  • [11:17:59] <likewise> cwillu_at_work: still with us? ;-)
  • [11:18:05] <cwillu_at_work> no.
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  • [11:18:42] <cwillu_at_work> Reason 97 why programmers are not supposed to do electrical
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  • [11:19:20] <janimo1> hello, did anyone here run ubuntu 10.10 images emulating a beagleboard under qemu?
  • [11:19:29] <janimo1> I can't manage to get it to fully boot
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  • [11:19:48] <cwillu_at_work> #ubuntu-arm may be more helpful
  • [11:20:13] <janimo1> cwillu_at_work: asked there first but got no answer, will try later
  • [11:20:15] <cwillu_at_work> aside from that, qemu has some issue emulating more recent arm instruction sets, which may be the source of your trouble.
  • [11:20:32] <av500> and since when does qemu emulate a full BB anyway?
  • [11:20:57] <cwillu_at_work> av500, ever since white was hot.
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  • [11:21:22] <cwillu_at_work> I just needed wet shoes on cement to realize it
  • [11:21:22] <janimo1> av500: it is the qemu-maemo fork
  • [11:21:36] <janimo1> it has the -M beagle option listed so I assume it emulates it somewhat
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  • [11:21:52] <mru> I very much doubt it emulates the dsp
  • [11:21:57] <av500> or the dss
  • [11:22:10] <janimo1> the porblem is that the kernel oopses, timeout on mtdblock
  • [11:22:14] <mru> maybe it does the uarts
  • [11:22:32] <janimo1> I guees I need to provide a file that looks like the NAD flash or tell the kernel somehow to ignore that
  • [11:22:37] <janimo1> either I;d be happy with
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  • [11:22:46] <mru> what are you trying to achieve anyway?
  • [11:22:47] <av500> just run in on a normal beagle
  • [11:22:53] <mru> if you have the hw, use that
  • [11:22:56] <av500> or run 10.10 on a slow pc
  • [11:22:56] <mru> if not, why bother?
  • [11:23:01] <av500> same effect
  • [11:23:02] <janimo1> I do not yet have a serial cable to the beagle
  • [11:23:07] <av500> omg
  • [11:23:09] <janimo1> and I want to make sure qemy works
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  • [11:23:13] <av500> what for?
  • [11:23:20] <mru> I can assure you qemu doesn't work
  • [11:23:22] <mru> not that well
  • [11:23:36] <janimo1> I want to make it owrk then, make sure the images tun inside qemu
  • [11:23:45] <janimo1> I'll ask on ubuntu-arm later
  • [11:23:45] <janimo1> thanks
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  • [11:24:50] <av500> mru: the press release said so, it must be true!!
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  • [11:29:12] <av500> ogra_ needs a new isp
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  • [11:29:39] <av500> ogra_ needs a new isp
  • [11:30:03] <mru> what's wrong with the one in the omap3?
  • [11:30:13] <ogra_> av500, nah, a fix for dircproxy to not goddamned attach _ to my nick, sorry for the noise
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  • [11:35:57] <tasslehoff> fsck made my omap hurt: http://pastebin.com/4MwAMqET
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  • [12:03:42] <DesktopMa> http://www.anandtech.com/show/4053/ti-reveals-omap4440-specs-dual-15ghz-cortex-a9-25-faster-gpu-hdmi-14-3d-1080p60
  • [12:03:46] * DesktopMa wants this on his pandaboard
  • [12:04:53] <mru> I'd rather have someone fix the A9 memory interface
  • [12:05:15] <ogra> who cares with 15ghz :P
  • [12:05:21] <DesktopMa> hehe. what's wrong with it mru
  • [12:05:35] <mru> it's rather crippled
  • [12:06:11] <DesktopMa> says it has two?
  • [12:06:16] <av500> ogra: 15ghz looping in L1 cache?
  • [12:06:18] <DesktopMa> is it one per core in general?
  • [12:06:32] <mru> eh?
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  • [12:08:02] <DesktopMa> "The A9 cores share a 1MB L2 cache and are paired with two 32-bit LPDDR2 memory controllers."
  • [12:08:32] <av500> yes
  • [12:08:35] <av500> same as 4430
  • [12:09:04] <DesktopMa> right
  • [12:09:51] <ogra> who needs 1080p anyway http://www.sinn-frei.com/media/2010/14066_001.gif :)
  • [12:10:23] <DesktopMa> this looks shopped. I can tell by the pixels and having seen a few shops in my time
  • [12:10:55] <dm8tbr> ogra: naah, much better telnet starwars via ipv6 ;)
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  • [14:20:53] <aholler> what a cpu can all manage, "33% reduction in webpage load time", that must have been written by the same person who is responsible that that omap only plays 120h of audio
  • [14:22:47] <av500> aholler: yep
  • [14:23:00] <av500> after 10h you need to go back to TI to refill audio dma handles
  • [14:23:37] <av500> err, 120h
  • [14:23:58] <DesktopMa> haha :P
  • [14:25:35] <av500> aholler: about web page load time, its a nice metric, as it changes over time. we have found that our test pagas have constant load time over product generations
  • [14:25:47] <av500> as the cpus get faster, the amount of javascript etc increases too
  • [14:26:52] <aholler> or the line is still as slow as before ;)
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  • [16:00:56] <malcoms> any one facing android on bb-xm is deadly slow??
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  • [16:01:46] <malcoms> i saw the thread saying its because of micro sd issue
  • [16:01:49] <malcoms> did any one had prooft this?
  • [16:02:25] <av500> define "deadly slow"
  • [16:02:59] <malcoms> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/451034ea7d55e97c
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  • [16:12:05] <av500> i doubt top and ls are deadly slow due to slow sdcard
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  • [16:12:20] <av500> the 2nd ls should be from cashe
  • [16:13:32] <malcoms> did u try android before?
  • [16:14:30] <av500> on xm?
  • [16:14:31] <av500> no
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  • [16:18:18] <malcoms> ya on XM
  • [16:18:50] <malcoms> is there any solution for this?
  • [16:19:26] <av500> since android runs fine on omap3, I am sure there is
  • [16:21:47] <malcoms> is there any place in bbxm for me to put a flash memory chip
  • [16:21:56] <malcoms> i means i could solder it there
  • [16:22:13] <av500> no
  • [16:22:32] <av500> unless you desolder the SDRAM and solder SDRAM+NAND
  • [16:22:54] <av500> you can hook up a 2nd sd/mmc card
  • [16:23:01] <av500> and treat that as flash
  • [16:23:11] <av500> aka managed nand
  • [16:25:10] <malcoms> i'm doubt if sdhc class 4 and 10 also having the same issue, then no point i go and buy it
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  • [16:25:25] <malcoms> class 6 not class 4,typo
  • [16:25:35] <av500> no
  • [16:26:08] <malcoms> what u means by no
  • [16:26:09] <av500> as said, I doubt a "relatively" slow sdcard can make it "deadly slow"
  • [16:26:27] <malcoms> so what u recommend
  • [16:26:35] <malcoms> any idea
  • [16:26:40] <aholler> ever tried another card, regardless how fast?
  • [16:27:46] <malcoms> i bought a class 4 just 3 days ago
  • [16:27:52] <malcoms> only notice this issue
  • [16:29:01] <malcoms> i dun have any class 6 with me
  • [16:29:17] <av500> 4 vs 6 will not make a big difference
  • [16:29:33] <av500> pastebin your top output
  • [16:29:34] <malcoms> ya,me have the same point of view also
  • [16:29:58] <aholler> I didn't understand. does that mean you've tried it with another card?
  • [16:30:53] <malcoms> aholler: so far i just port android into micro sdhc class 4
  • [16:31:06] <av500> you mean you "copied"
  • [16:31:07] <malcoms> i havent try with micro sdhc class 6
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  • [16:31:16] <aholler> one and the same, or did you've tried two of them?
  • [16:31:55] <av500> malcoms: you are asking that for one week now, why not just try another card?
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  • [16:32:05] <av500> that does not take a week
  • [16:32:22] <malcoms> just try another card cost me a lot here
  • [16:32:56] <malcoms> it would be good if any one can confirm me the micro sdhc class 6 do really work faster
  • [16:33:01] <malcoms> and no hang issue
  • [16:33:09] <av500> its not a 4 vs 6 issue
  • [16:33:13] <malcoms> slow and hang
  • [16:33:21] <av500> but it might be an issue with YOUR card
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  • [17:10:15] <av500> some omap3630 porn for the interested: http://bbs.imp3.net/thread-953667-1-1.html
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  • [17:14:27] <djlewis> cool, it includes screw drivers
  • [17:14:44] <av500> yeah :)
  • [17:15:08] <djlewis> so your work is being reverse engineered?
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  • [17:16:37] <av500> djlewis: taking it apart is not RE
  • [17:16:57] <djlewis> what language it that?
  • [17:17:03] <djlewis> s/it/is
  • [17:18:43] <av500> middle kingdom i guess
  • [17:20:23] <djlewis> does it give you a sense of feeling violated or complimented?
  • [17:21:34] <emeb> mmm - lots of kapton tape!
  • [17:21:34] <djlewis> anyway, looks like it will be far easier to reassemble than many laptops I get to work on :)
  • [17:22:13] <djlewis> gm emeb
  • [17:22:22] <emeb> gm djlewis
  • [17:22:28] <emeb> what's snew?
  • [17:22:52] <djlewis> other than av500's guts being spilled out ;)
  • [17:23:17] <emeb> eh - just baby pictures.
  • [17:23:30] <djlewis> hehee
  • [17:24:05] <djlewis> bout the same here, how about you emeb?
  • [17:24:47] <emeb> not a lot
  • [17:24:57] <emeb> banging out some more verilog for the day job
  • [17:25:23] <djlewis> i'm getting near heading to the day job
  • [17:26:20] <djlewis> av500: looks like well designed hardware to me :)
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  • [17:27:50] <djlewis> I figure if it does make it to RE then it wont be near the quality product.
  • [17:29:04] <av500> djlewis: too much kapton for my taste :)
  • [17:29:10] <av500> but thx :)
  • [17:29:29] <djlewis> part of pasifying the fcc?
  • [17:29:39] <av500> with kapton?
  • [17:29:47] <av500> you can try to bind the fcc guy with it
  • [17:29:58] <av500> the metal shield tape is for the fcc
  • [17:30:08] <emeb> av500: what's the black plastic thing between the 3.5mm jack and the usb socket & camera?
  • [17:30:29] <dm8tbr> emeb: accel sensor I guess?
  • [17:30:32] <djlewis> yeah, the kapton is just the thin yellow tape, my confusion
  • [17:30:51] <av500> emeb: in fact, its a "black plastic thing"
  • [17:31:04] <av500> its part of the camera support :)
  • [17:31:09] <emeb> looks like some sort of cover/stage to lift the camera up
  • [17:31:14] <av500> yes
  • [17:31:21] <av500> see it extend to the othr side of the cam
  • [17:31:32] <emeb> yep
  • [17:31:35] <dm8tbr> oic
  • [17:32:37] <av500> djlewis: there is some fcc tape on the back of the lcd
  • [17:33:05] <djlewis> and on the card reader board
  • [17:33:21] <av500> err
  • [17:33:35] * emeb wonders what the unpopulated parts down near the OMAP are...
  • [17:34:17] <av500> hmm
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  • [17:41:10] <av500> emeb: an option
  • [17:41:38] <emeb> optional laser death ray controller...
  • [17:42:33] <av500> yeah
  • [17:44:53] <emeb> altera maxII cpld for glue logic
  • [17:45:40] <av500> emeb: thx for noticing the unpopulated place :)
  • [17:46:01] <av500> its nice to solder some mods there
  • [17:46:17] <emeb> heh - always poking my nose into the dusty corners...
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  • [18:21:53] <jonpry> blasted lpddr
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  • [18:24:25] <emeb> memory giving you heartburn?
  • [18:27:01] <jonpry> something like that. x8 seems to be working @50mhz
  • [18:28:10] <jonpry> but i had to do things i swore i would never do
  • [18:28:27] <av500> pray tell
  • [18:28:54] <emeb> pact w/ satan
  • [18:29:28] <av500> emeb: yes, he is listed as licensee there :)
  • [18:29:48] <jonpry> yes i have switched deities
  • [18:30:03] <jonpry> new one = micron
  • [18:30:56] <emeb> previous one = ?
  • [18:31:10] <av500> macron
  • [18:31:20] <emeb> microff
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  • [18:33:26] <jonpry> old one is not important, i confused in earlier times
  • [18:33:33] <jonpry> *was confused
  • [18:34:26] <emeb> seen the light, as it were...
  • [18:34:41] <av500> /meego home
  • [18:34:49] <emeb> drive safely
  • [18:35:10] <jonpry> or literally. the only i/o out of my fpga is an led
  • [18:35:29] <emeb> HW equiv of 'hello world'
  • [18:35:35] <emeb> (me too)
  • [18:36:02] <av500> jonpry: does it morse "hello world"?
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  • [18:36:41] <hjad> Hello
  • [18:36:50] <jonpry> :p. it could. right now it shows bit errors in the memory interface. which is modulated by nature of the parameters being hooked up to counters
  • [18:37:09] <hjad> Does anyone knows what type of touch display I can use use beagle boar?
  • [18:37:16] <hjad> **beagleboard
  • [18:37:37] <hjad> with a better resolution than beagletouch
  • [18:37:45] <hjad> ??
  • [18:43:41] <jonpry> archos?
  • [18:46:06] <emeb> jonpry: is x8@50MHz enough for your app?
  • [18:47:04] <jonpry> emeb: probably. but i will fix the other 8. could be a bad joint, or even an error in the ucf. i
  • [18:47:16] <jonpry> 'm making some stuff to try to find out what bit the problem is on
  • [18:47:59] <jonpry> and faster could just be a matter of adjusting drive strength and such. also without the omap. its difficult for me to get clean clock to the board. my 100mhz thing is terrible
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  • [18:51:29] <emeb> clean your clock!
  • [18:51:42] <jonpry> what clock. its like 50mv
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  • [18:52:33] <emeb> ok - noise w/ strong peak at 100MHz?
  • [18:52:48] <jonpry> sounds about right
  • [18:53:30] * emeb has a box full of FPGA eval boards w/ bad SDRAM on them.
  • [18:53:43] <emeb> some day I'll try to figure out what's wrong with them all..
  • [18:54:23] <jonpry> that sounds fun
  • [18:54:58] <jonpry> dunno why they can't put jtag in sdram
  • [18:55:46] <jonpry> imho i built the coolest fpga programmer ever :p. little contraption that extrapolates a cclk from an rs232 stream
  • [18:56:15] <emeb> Nifty!
  • [18:56:29] <emeb> probably kinda slow tho
  • [18:56:36] <emeb> (on big parts)
  • [18:57:13] <jonpry> well, 115kbaud is almost 100 times faster than what i was able to work out on gpio
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  • [18:58:03] <emeb> I've had pretty good luck using a SPI port - just the SCLK/MOSI bits
  • [18:58:16] <emeb> goes _really_ quick on the OMAP
  • [18:58:31] <jonpry> thats the plan after omap gets soldered on. but for now i needed something else
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  • [19:02:13] <koen> Crofton|work: don't forget to bump PR on autoconf
  • [19:02:34] <Crofton|work> I was wondering that
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  • [19:03:30] <Crofton|work> I forget to tell configure to use the neon flags
  • [19:03:31] <Crofton|work> hmm
  • [19:03:47] <Crofton|work> and I need to use mfloat-abi=hardfp now?
  • [19:04:20] <mru> just "hard"
  • [19:04:49] <mru> and if you're using that calling convention it's probably the default in the compiler
  • [19:05:27] <Crofton|work> I need to figure out what the defaults are ...
  • [19:05:33] <mru> gcc -v
  • [19:05:43] <mru> look for --with-fpu and --with-float
  • [19:07:04] <Crofton|work> doesn't say
  • [19:07:18] <mru> hmm
  • [19:07:28] <Crofton|work> that gives me configured with
  • [19:07:36] <mru> it's usually rather tricky to build a hardfp system without that as default
  • [19:07:51] <klaas_work_> allright so i'm almost certain that the white noise problem i'm having with recording audio is kernel related, nobody by any chance remembers a problem that made the line in produce white noise on some occasions? :p
  • [19:08:24] <Crofton|work> dumpspecs
  • [19:08:36] <mru> dumpspecs is impossible to decipher
  • [19:08:53] <mru> pastebin the output of -v
  • [19:09:16] <mru> klaas_work_: recording works fine over here
  • [19:10:25] <klaas_work_> well it does work most of the time on another omap board i'm using, but on occasion there is only white noise
  • [19:11:29] <Crofton|work> http://pastebin.com/aHLJFdK9
  • [19:11:42] <klaas_work_> i've tried that same kernel on the beagleboard and it was producing white noise on occasion as well so the best chance is that the newer kernel has a fix for it, just need to find out what exactly
  • [19:12:26] <mru> Crofton|work: that is indeed configured with default defaults
  • [19:12:40] <mru> which means god knows what fpu settings
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  • [19:25:58] <Crofton> http://pastebin.com/5TFaBxG0
  • [19:27:10] <Crofton> trying to build something with gcc set to -mfloat-abi=hard won't compile
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  • [20:04:01] <mru> Crofton|work: that means your crt and/or libgcc are built with softfp
  • [20:11:27] * _av500_ has crt in living room
  • [20:14:21] <Crofton|work> yeah
  • [20:14:27] <Crofton|work> I am an idiot
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  • [20:22:55] <djlewis_> yea, the logs are back
  • [20:23:34] <mru> who cares about logs, I want friday
  • [20:23:46] <djlewis_> :)
  • [20:24:05] <djlewis_> well, friday will be here sooner for you than for me :P
  • [20:24:54] <mru> yet another advantage of living in europe
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  • [20:31:55] * djlewis_ likes what projects are coming of the Kinect device
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  • [20:33:22] <mru> a couple of years ago it was the wiimote, now it's the kinect
  • [20:33:24] <mru> nothing ever changes
  • [20:33:43] <djlewis_> sure it does, it advances a little bitty bit
  • [20:34:37] <djlewis_> like the wiimote was mostly buttons, accelerometer and a lo rez ir camera
  • [20:34:52] <djlewis_> the Kinect is a webcam and higher rez ir camera :P
  • [20:35:06] <mru> what difference does it make once they're both forgotten?
  • [20:35:32] <djlewis_> not a bit but it makes a lot of difference now
  • [20:36:04] <mru> only to those who keep themselves busy jumping between bandwagons
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  • [20:36:10] <djlewis_> it gets experimenters and researchers excited about something new to try. That promotes innovation
  • [20:36:51] <mru> I guess I'm just hard to impress
  • [20:37:08] * djlewis_ thinks mru needs a puppy to hug
  • [20:37:44] * djlewis_ has three and they keep me up :)
  • [20:37:50] <djlewis_> positive that is
  • [20:38:16] <mru> I couldn't have a pet
  • [20:38:25] <mru> not with my habit of going away for weeks at a time
  • [20:38:29] <djlewis_> well, it helps
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  • [20:43:21] <djlewis_> yeah, having my canines has reduced my travel a lot.
  • [20:44:24] <mru> maybe I could keep a troll
  • [20:44:36] <mru> it would be fine in the cellar when I'm away
  • [20:44:57] <mru> av500: can you confirm?
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  • [20:45:07] <mru> he has three of 'em, you know
  • [20:45:18] <kblin> mru: don't you need a bridge to keep a troll?
  • [20:45:28] <kblin> I've got one that I'm giving away for cheap
  • [20:45:36] <mru> bridge?
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  • [20:47:13] <djlewis_> your sposed to sell the bridge
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  • [20:50:17] * djlewis_ has a thing called Yanu that may be a troll
  • [20:50:20] <djlewis_> emeb: saw it
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  • [20:51:52] <djlewis_> Make that Yano, http://www.epinions.com/review/The_Original_San_Francisco_Toy_Makers_Yano_Interactive_Storyteller/content_455743868548
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  • [20:59:50] <emeb> that'll give the kids a fright!
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  • [21:05:13] <jluxenberg> this is weird, my beagleboard came with a 4GB card but it appears that the root file system is not using the 4gb card
  • [21:06:49] <jluxenberg> it looks like its mounting a rootfs at /
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  • [21:08:06] <thurbad> I think the SD has a user.scr that loads that mounts / in a 64MB ramdisk
  • [21:08:20] <jluxenberg> hmm, interesting. yeah that looks to be the case
  • [21:08:43] <jluxenberg> in fact, most of this 4gb card isn't even partitioned
  • [21:09:09] <jluxenberg> should I partition it and copy the 64mb root fs into the new partition? will that even work?
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  • [21:09:57] <thurbad> it should have a rootfs on a second partition
  • [21:10:07] <thurbad> but it's not using it
  • [21:10:29] <thurbad> check /media/mmcblk0p2
  • [21:10:50] <jluxenberg> root@beagleboard:~# mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /media/mmc1/ \ mount: you must specify the filesystem type
  • [21:11:23] <jluxenberg> also, according to fdisk -l that partition only takes up one cylinder: /dev/mmcblk0p2 16 16 8032+ 83 Linux
  • [21:16:27] <thurbad> I think that just adding a boot.scr or modifying your user.scr will be enough
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  • [22:14:57] <djlewis_> i think a troll lives in this computer.
  • [22:16:32] <prpplague> djlewis_: does it look like this http://s.ecrater.com/stores/25052/49a9f892cbc51_25052n.jpg ?
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  • [22:18:08] <djlewis_> prpplague: memories, when I was ten the local neighborhood girls brought those trool dolls by and I would fix the trolls hair for them. Won me lots of points with the girls :)
  • [22:18:21] <prpplague> hehe
  • [22:18:26] <muriani> hah
  • [22:18:31] <muriani> I remember those
  • [22:18:56] <djlewis_> that would be about 1960 for the enquiring minds
  • [22:20:40] <djlewis_> no, 63
  • [22:21:05] <djlewis_> mom had a 62 mercury comet
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  • [22:21:18] <djlewis_> and I would really be ten
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  • [22:25:26] <emeb> early djlewis pickup line: "hey baby - can I fix your troll's hair for you?"
  • [22:26:35] <djlewis_> Hey, it won me as the official taste tester. Girl had party, needed someone to test her chocalot shakes before hand :)
  • [22:26:51] <djlewis_> I never had one before but I said it was real good.
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  • [22:29:46] <emeb> smoove!
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  • [22:33:00] <_av500_> smores?
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  • [22:34:31] <emeb> mmm... smores...
  • [22:34:38] <emeb> instant diabetes.
  • [22:35:35] <prpplague> emeb: or a large bag of mini peanut butter cups
  • [22:36:02] <emeb> yum!
  • [22:36:28] * djlewis_ has a large bag o them at home :)
  • [22:36:43] <djlewis_> the actual size cups though
  • [22:36:54] <_av500_> size D?
  • [22:37:00] <djlewis_> lol
  • [22:37:34] <djlewis_> this girl i'm dating is a little overweight and I think is trying to fatten me up so I won't notice or say anything?
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  • [23:14:32] <Dan__> hey, does anyone have experience getting DSP to work in Ubuntu?
  • [23:15:22] <Dan__> i've been trying to build the latest Linux kernel to support DSP for ages
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  • [23:27:48] <perryr> I have a beagle board XM and leopard board 5m vga camera with ubuntu installed and networked. Is the next step to getting the camera working patching the kernel and recompiling? or is there a module I can load.
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  • [23:36:31] <perry__> I'll try again, I am trying to get a leopard board camera (5mp vga) working with an ubuntu beagle xm. What's the next step kernel patch recompile or module to get the camera working for: Linux beagle 2.6.35.9-l9 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 3 00:59:50 UTC 2010 armv7l GNU/Linux
  • [23:49:32] <klaas_work_> my guess would be you need the right patches to get it working
  • [23:53:44] <perry__> okay cool can I get them?
  • [23:54:58] <klaas_work_> either you got them with the board or you try to google them, no clue actually :)
  • [23:56:19] <klaas_work_> the one time i bought a leopard board, i got a patch with it
  • [23:56:39] <klaas_work_> but needed alot of work to make it work on the kernel we were using :)
  • [23:58:03] <perry__> the problem is this the camera came from leopard (no patch) and the beagle board came from somewhere else. I've been googling. I think I'm going to return the camera and usb webcam.
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  • [23:58:45] <klaas_work_> why not just ask leopard for a patch?
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