[00:00:13] <djlewis> sakoman_: hi
[00:00:24] <sakoman_> hey djlewis!
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[00:20:33] <Jefro> jkridner - not able to git clone or edit w/o git. brain function decreasing fast.
[00:20:55] <Jefro> did grab a snapshot using gitweb
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[02:00:27] <metaliving> okay, so i've formatted the ext3 partition of my sd card and installed angstrom
[02:00:49] <metaliving> but for some reason the beagle boots up a demo version of angstrom which is probably located in the fat32 partition
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[02:03:40] <Max_Galemin> metaliving: try to change u-boot "bootcmd"
[02:05:40] <metaliving> in the user.scr file?
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[02:06:46] <Max_Galemin> first of all try to run mmcboot by hand in u-boot and see if it works
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[02:08:22] <metaliving> not sure i follow
[02:10:19] <metaliving> where do i run mmcboot?
[02:10:20] <Max_Galemin> in u-boot comman line type "printenv" adn you'll see boot command for booting from mmc, "mmcboot" or "mmc-boot"
[02:10:33] <Max_Galemin> then exec "run mmcboot"
[02:10:46] <metaliving> how do i enter u-boot?
[02:11:01] <tdh2002_> sigh...
[02:11:07] <Max_Galemin> sorry, "mmc init", "run loaduimage", "run mmcboot"
[02:11:32] <Max_Galemin> hmmm...
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[02:12:20] <Max_Galemin> reset the BB and when you'll se "Hit any key to stop autoboot:" press enter
[02:12:43] <tdh2002_> any key is ok
[02:12:56] <metaliving> ooh that makes sense
[02:12:56] <metaliving> ok
[02:14:37] <Max_Galemin> yes, "enter" or "any key", it doesn't matter ;)
[02:15:24] <tdh2002_> I have a question
[02:15:54] <tdh2002_> beagleboard has no nandflash, where can i restore the uboot config?
[02:16:09] <tdh2002_> I said beagleboard xm
[02:16:39] <Max_Galemin> in boot.scr or in u-boot.bin :)
[02:17:15] <Max_Galemin> .
[02:17:45] <Max_Galemin> include/configs/omap3_beagle.h
[02:18:05] <tdh2002_> ok ,
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[02:19:55] <tdh2002_> Max_Galemin: Do you know how to config kernel for xm? when I use the kernel config for beagleboard, it seems doen't work for xm
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[02:21:13] <Max_Galemin> tdh2002_: yes, I know :) but it depends on kernel version
[02:21:41] <Max_Galemin> what version of kernel and from what repo you are talking about?
[02:22:23] <tdh2002_> wait a minitue..
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[02:23:05] <tdh2002> my kernel form :git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux.git
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[02:25:49] <metaliving> is there any way to reach the u-boot command line through the dvi output? there monitor seems to wake up far late in the process
[02:26:01] <metaliving> and i'm way to lazy to go get the rs-232
[02:26:06] <metaliving> too*
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[02:26:20] <Max_Galemin> metaliving: no
[02:26:23] <metaliving> okay
[02:26:33] <metaliving> the*
[02:26:34] <tdh2002_> I think you can save uboot config.
[02:26:55] <Max_Galemin> yes
[02:27:14] <metaliving> can i download a u-boot.bin file that is set up to boot from the ext3 partition?
[02:27:17] <metaliving> somewhere
[02:27:54] <Max_Galemin> you can change your user.scr (or boot.scr)
[02:27:57] <thurbad> just make a boot.scr and set it there
[02:28:32] <tdh2002_> Max_Galemin: My kernel form git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux.git , is 2.6.32
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[02:28:58] <Max_Galemin> ok, it's a good and stable kernel
[02:29:11] <Max_Galemin> so what the problem?
[02:29:57] <Max_Galemin> metaliving: are you on linux now?
[02:30:16] <metaliving> yeah
[02:30:25] <tdh2002_> I get the config.gz file and extract to the kernel, the i compile the kernl . the uImage doest work..
[02:31:02] <tdh2002_> I am using XM board now to chat with you..
[02:31:19] <Max_Galemin> what kind of config are you talking about? there is a config already in the kernel from beagleboard validation
[02:32:01] <tdh2002> is this one arch/arm/configs/omap3_beagle_defconfig?
[02:32:45] <Max_Galemin> yes
[02:33:06] <tdh2002_> oh i get config.gz from /proc/config.gz .
[02:33:25] <tdh2002> ok I will try this config
[02:35:38] <Max_Galemin> metaliving: try this:
[02:36:05] <Max_Galemin> exec commands in linux cli:
[02:36:08] <Max_Galemin> cat << EOF > my_boot_cmd mmc init run loaduimage run mmcboot EOF
[02:36:31] <Max_Galemin> mkimage -A arm -O linux -T script -C none -a 0 -e 0 -n "Beagleboard-xM boot script" -d my_boot_cmd boot.scr
[02:37:07] <Max_Galemin> or user.scr ...
[02:37:34] <Max_Galemin> and replace this file on your SD card (save the old one before)
[02:38:04] <tdh2002_> Max : Do you talk to me?
[02:38:08] <Max_Galemin> hmmm, where are the newlines in the first command...
[02:38:39] <Max_Galemin> tdh2002_: ah, sorry, I'm talking to metaliving :)
[02:39:13] <tdh2002_> i mistake hmm
[02:41:54] <metaliving> hm... mkimage: Can't open user.scr: Read-only file system
[02:42:18] <metaliving> oh maybe i locked the reader
[02:42:30] <metaliving> k nevermind
[02:43:06] <Max_Galemin> don't forget to save the old version...
[02:43:42] <tdh2002_> It doent matter , when you lose the old version , I will send to you .
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[02:45:43] <tdh2002_> new kernel is ready I try it now
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[02:48:11] <tdh2002> i get this message every time " *** Warning - bad CRC or NAND, using default environment"
[02:49:22] <tdh2002> Max_Galemin: ok it does work, thank you
[02:49:22] <metaliving> hm that doesn't seem to be working
[02:49:44] <metaliving> i get the beagleboard logo and nothing else
[02:50:49] <Max_Galemin> tdh2002: this is an U-Boot debug trace
[02:50:57] <Max_Galemin> not kernel one
[02:51:12] <tdh2002> another problem.
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[02:51:49] <tdh2002> when i cat /proc/cpuinfo, i got BogoMIPS: 994.64 it seems that the cpu is 500Mhz..
[02:51:58] <tdh2002> is this true?
[02:52:27] <Max_Galemin> DM3730 maximal freq is 1 GHz
[02:52:33] <tdh2002> Yes
[02:52:47] <Max_Galemin> so what the question? :)
[02:53:12] <tdh2002> i mean the xm board now run under 500Mhz.
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[02:54:01] <Max_Galemin> why do you think so?
[02:55:38] <tdh2002> i cat /proc/cpuinfo, i got BogoMIPS: 994.6,
[02:55:40] <tdh2002> when i do this on PC, it shows bogomips : 4987.45, my cpu is 2493.557Mhz
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[02:57:13] <mrj10> tdh2002: what was the question? i joined late.
[02:57:16] <Max_Galemin> and? :) if you have these values on your PC it doesn't mean that bogomips = 2xfreq :)
[02:57:32] <mrj10> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BogoMips
[02:58:06] <mrj10> bogomips is measured by the kernel at boot time, and the ratio of bogomips to clock frequency depends on pipeline microarchitetcure
[02:58:10] <mrj10> *microarchitecture
[02:58:44] <tdh2002> How can i know the cpu frequence?
[02:59:02] <mrj10> modern x86 machines have much higher IPC than ARM; the mechanisms used to get that extra IPC are much of the reason ARM comes out as more power-efficient for many applications
[02:59:23] <Max_Galemin> hmmm... probably using oscilloscope :)
[02:59:27] <mrj10> cat /proc/cpuinfo might work, or cat/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/<something>
[03:00:38] <Max_Galemin> actually all these values are not very accurate, but believe me, it runs at freq close to 1 GHz :)
[03:00:45] <tdh2002> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
[03:00:47] <tdh2002> 1000000
[03:01:00] <tdh2002> Ok i trust you
[03:02:44] <tdh2002> when i used beagleboard B6, cat /proc/cpuinfo it shows bootmips 499.99..
[03:02:46] <tdh2002> so I dont why
[03:03:07] <Max_Galemin> by the way, it's strange taht you have a problem with kernel from validation repo
[03:03:47] <tdh2002> my XM version is A3.
[03:04:25] <Max_Galemin> my too
[03:05:09] <tdh2002> it takes me 3000RMB to buy it. sign......
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[03:09:27] <cwillu_at_work> tdh2002, use angrom's kernel if you want the xm to run at the right frequency
[03:09:45] <cwillu_at_work> at least until the patches land in mainline
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[03:11:17] <tdh2002> cwillu_at_work:i mistake, the cpu run about 1Ghz.
[03:11:19] <tdh2002> i just dont know how to confirm it.
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[03:11:54] <cwillu_at_work> plausible mistake; mainline kernel runs at 500mhz or 600mhz (can't remember)
[03:12:17] <Max_Galemin__> cwillu_at_work: validation kernel runs at the right freq :)
[03:12:17] <cwillu_at_work> or did at some point, or something
[03:12:30] <cwillu_at_work> Max_Galemin__, <cwillu_at_work> tdh2002, use angrom's kernel if you want the xm to run at the right frequency
[03:12:44] <cwillu_at_work> i.e., I just said that :p[
[03:13:11] <Max_Galemin__> what do you mean "angrom's kernel"?
[03:13:21] <tdh2002> angstrom..
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[03:15:44] <Max_Galemin__> validation != angstrom
[03:15:51] <Max_Galemin__> validation == arago
[03:16:49] <tdh2002> C guy
[03:19:26] <tdh2002> Max_Galemin__: what is your time now?
[03:23:42] <Max_Galemin__> tdh2002: 14:23
[03:24:15] <Max_Galemin__> why are you asking? :)
[03:24:34] <tdh2002> my time is 11:23,
[03:24:50] <tdh2002> I want to know where are you
[03:25:01] <Max_Galemin__> sydney, au
[03:25:16] <tdh2002> ???????????? ??????
[03:25:24] <Max_Galemin__> and what about you? where are you from?
[03:25:38] <tdh2002> Guangzhou , China
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[03:26:44] <tdh2002> Australia is not very far.
[03:26:44] <Max_Galemin__> ok, it's interesting :)
[03:26:55] <Max_Galemin__> yep
[03:28:38] <Max_Galemin__> but originally I'm from Ukraine :)
[03:29:03] <tdh2002> ?????????, why do you go to AU
[03:30:09] <Max_Galemin__> ukraine is not a very good place to live
[03:30:24] <tdh2002> Max_Galemin__: have you ever come to China for travelling?
[03:32:37] <Max_Galemin__> no, not yet
[03:33:55] <Max_Galemin__> is China a good country for travelling?
[03:34:57] <tdh2002> of course
[03:40:56] <tdh2002> there are Well-known tourist attractions in China
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[04:03:37] <metaliving> should i normally be able to input things on the terminal in a serial connection to the beagle?
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[04:08:26] <cwillu_at_work> metaliving, if you have a tty running on it (which you may or may not, depending on your distro)
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[04:14:41] <metaliving> thanks
[04:15:10] <metaliving> Max_Galemin, your script from before worked perfectly! thanks a ton
[04:16:46] <Max_Galemin> metaliving: no worries :)
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[04:22:34] <cwillu_at_work> who needs a pandaboard: http://imgur.com/xhiZG?full :p
[04:23:48] <djlewis> now thats some ugly soldering in the back
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[04:23:54] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis, shush you :p
[04:24:41] <djlewis> and its almost as dusty as my BB ;)
[04:24:55] <cwillu_at_work> the bottom ones are cleaner :p
[04:25:04] <djlewis> go figure
[04:25:55] <djlewis> so you figure you have at least 2GB processing power there ?
[04:26:05] <cwillu_at_work> well, 720mhz*4
[04:26:08] <djlewis> or 2GHz i mean
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[04:28:10] <cwillu_at_work> hmm
[04:28:14] <Max_Galemin> wow, it's a mainframe!!!
[04:28:16] <cwillu_at_work> top one is a c3 actually
[04:28:23] <cwillu_at_work> the rest are c4's
[04:29:24] <djlewis> yeah, that c3 has seen some use
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[04:31:10] <Max_Galemin> it's a probably beginning of SkyNet... and it needs to be destroyed...
[04:31:44] <cwillu_at_work> Max_Galemin, I also have a good pile of overo earths, but the don't stack as nicely
[04:32:37] <Max_Galemin> hmmm, you are happy man! I want all these toys too :)
[04:32:38] <djlewis> yeah, you might sneeze on the Overo and then have to go hunting them
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[04:33:11] <cwillu_at_work> yeah; the form factor is nice, until you realize you either need to make your own daughter boards, or spend another 100 dollars on adapters for the insanely sized connectors
[04:34:06] <cwillu_at_work> the screw holes are all about the size as the test points on the beagle
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[04:40:23] <cwillu_at_work> ooo, I should daisy chain them via otg -> host usb :)
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[04:48:57] <djlewis> yep, the overo would be most difficult to use without an addon
[04:51:40] <cwillu_at_work> even with the addon's
[04:51:53] <cwillu_at_work> the gumstix one's all use tiny connectors
[04:52:19] <cwillu_at_work> like the otg port, but for the host as well
[04:52:23] <metaliving> Max_Galemin: ok, actually, it didn't work perfectly
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[04:53:10] <metaliving> even though i can see beagle booting up in the right place from the serial output
[04:53:32] <metaliving> the dvi output is constantly the beagleboard logo
[04:54:35] <metaliving> any ideas?
[04:56:23] <Max_Galemin> metaliving: I have a lot of ideas :))
[04:56:41] <metaliving> good to hear :)
[04:56:53] <Max_Galemin> in u-boot cli "printenv" and see "dvimode=" string
[04:56:53] <tdh2002> you may try dont choose bootup_logo in kernel, and choose frame console support
[04:57:21] <Max_Galemin> or something like that...
[04:57:55] <Max_Galemin> in any case merge your working config with the new one and find the main differences
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[05:04:53] <metaliving> i'm still not sure how i'm supposed to access the u-boot cli, since i can't use the keyboard in a serial connection and i can't see the u-boot cli in the dvi
[05:07:36] <Max_Galemin> metaliving: ahh... it's much more interesting :)
[05:08:50] <metaliving> hm?
[05:09:09] <tdh2002> metaliving: Do you see anything in the tty of serical connection?
[05:09:38] <tdh2002> and what tty do you use?
[05:11:34] <metaliving> i see angstrom booting up
[05:11:35] <Max_Galemin> I'm always working with serial connection and with naked linux without video output so I can't help you
[05:11:53] <metaliving> gnome daemons etc.
[05:12:09] <metaliving> so it seems to be working fine
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[05:13:06] <tdh2002> I am using kermit , It seems very good .
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[05:14:21] <tdh2002> metaliving: you want uboot info print on the LCD ?
[05:14:27] <Max_Galemin> i like conman
[05:14:55] <metaliving> no, i want the gui
[05:15:02] <tdh2002> aptitude search conman nothing found.
[05:15:20] <tdh2002> metaliving: i dont what you want ...
[05:15:29] <tdh2002> i dont know what you want ...
[05:15:46] <metaliving> the x output
[05:16:52] <tdh2002> you can run angstrom dist.. It works well
[05:17:26] <Max_Galemin> http://code.google.com/p/conman/
[05:18:07] <metaliving> i am running angstrom
[05:19:03] <tdh2002> no x output??
[05:19:44] <metaliving> on the dvi
[05:20:21] <tdh2002> i use open embedded bitbake x11-gpe-image. it can work
[05:20:47] <tdh2002> omapfb.mode=dvi:800x600MR-16@60 omapdss.def_disp=dvi
[05:24:33] <tdh2002> Max: How can use conman connect to /dev/ttyS0 ?
[05:25:32] <Max_Galemin> just run daemon (conmand) and then "conman /dev/ttyS0"
[05:26:27] <tdh2002> ./conman /dev/ttyS0
[05:26:29] <tdh2002> ERROR: Unable to connect to <localhost.localdomain:7890>: Connection refused.
[05:26:52] <Max_Galemin> did you run conmand?
[05:27:07] <tdh2002> yes
[05:27:13] <tdh2002> conman /dev/ttyS0
[05:27:15] <tdh2002> ERROR: Unable to connect to <localhost.localdomain:7890>: Connection refused.
[05:27:39] <Max_Galemin> hmmm...
[05:27:58] <Max_Galemin> did you install conman?
[05:28:02] <Max_Galemin> make install
[05:28:04] <tdh2002> yes
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[05:31:16] <Max_Galemin> try to add alias for /dev/ttyS0 to the /usr/local/etc/conman.conf
[05:31:48] <Max_Galemin> add line:
[05:31:48] <Max_Galemin> console name="com0" dev="/dev/ttyS0"
[05:32:02] <tdh2002> no rate?
[05:32:15] <Max_Galemin> to the end of conman.conf and then run "conman com0"
[05:32:53] <tdh2002> The same error.
[05:33:01] <tdh2002> tt@tt-OptiPlex-330:/samba/tt/omap/linux$ conman com0
[05:33:03] <tdh2002> ERROR: Unable to connect to <localhost.localdomain:7890>: Connection refused.
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[05:33:51] <Max_Galemin> did you _really_ run conmand?
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[05:34:01] <Max_Galemin> just "conmand"
[05:34:09] <Max_Galemin> with "d" at the end :)
[05:35:33] <Max_Galemin> could you please show me the output of "ps -e | grep conmand" command? :)
[05:35:54] <tdh2002> nothing
[05:36:20] <Max_Galemin> so you didn't run conmand :)
[05:36:36] <tdh2002> I use gnome terminal.
[05:36:48] <Max_Galemin> sudo conmand
[05:37:38] <Max_Galemin> it's a good program, you can work with the same com port from the different places but daemon needs to be run
[05:37:39] <tdh2002> OK
[05:38:15] <tdh2002> <ConMan> Connection to console [com0] opened.
[05:39:02] <tdh2002> I thought conmand to command..
[05:39:08] <tdh2002> sigh...
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[05:40:55] <Max_Galemin> now you can connect to the same port from other place "conman -j com0"
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[05:41:33] <tdh2002> great
[05:41:53] <tdh2002> i have 2 terminal connect to com0
[05:42:05] <tdh2002> but even the same
[05:42:21] <Max_Galemin> in order to exit conman use '&' and then '.'
[05:42:57] <tdh2002> I see it.
[05:45:04] <tdh2002> Max: it seems very good! :)
[05:45:58] <Max_Galemin> tdh2002: yeah, I like it :)
[05:49:31] <tdh2002> I test the speed of eth on Xm, it is almost 95M..
[05:50:01] <Max_Galemin> hmmm... I got 69M
[05:50:09] <Max_Galemin> what did you use?
[05:50:59] <tdh2002> i use iperf
[05:51:14] <Max_Galemin> me too, it's strange
[05:52:29] <tdh2002> [ 3] local 192.168.1.95 port 37634 connected with 192.168.1.122 port 5001
[05:52:31] <tdh2002> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[05:52:33] <tdh2002> [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 113 MBytes 94.9 Mbits/sec
[05:53:09] <tdh2002> Client connecting to 192.168.1.122, TCP port 5001
[05:53:11] <tdh2002> TCP window size: 16.0 KByte (default)
[05:53:13] <tdh2002> ------------------------------------------------------------
[05:53:15] <tdh2002> [ 3] local 192.168.1.95 port 37637 connected with 192.168.1.122 port 5001
[05:53:17] <tdh2002> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[05:53:19] <tdh2002> [ 3] 0.0- 1.0 sec 11.4 MBytes 95.6 Mbits/sec
[05:53:21] <tdh2002> [ 3] 1.0- 2.0 sec 11.3 MBytes 94.8 Mbits/sec
[05:53:23] <tdh2002> [ 3] 2.0- 3.0 sec 11.2 MBytes 94.4 Mbits/sec
[05:53:25] <tdh2002> [ 3] 3.0- 4.0 sec 11.3 MBytes 94.8 Mbits/sec
[05:53:27] <tdh2002> [ 3] 4.0- 5.0 sec 11.3 MBytes 94.9 Mbits/sec
[05:53:29] <tdh2002> [ 3] 5.0- 6.0 sec 11.3 MBytes 94.9 Mbits/sec
[05:53:31] <tdh2002> [ 3] 6.0- 7.0 sec 11.1 MBytes 93.3 Mbits/sec
[05:53:33] <tdh2002> [ 3] 7.0- 8.0 sec 11.3 MBytes 94.9 Mbits/sec
[05:53:35] <tdh2002> [ 3] 8.0- 9.0 sec 11.4 MBytes 95.9 Mbits/sec
[05:53:37] <tdh2002> [ 3] 9.0-10.0 sec 11.7 MBytes 98.5 Mbits/sec
[05:53:39] <tdh2002> [ 3] 0.0-10.0 sec 113 MBytes 94.9 Mbits/sec
[05:53:41] <tdh2002> you can see it.
[05:55:25] <Max_Galemin> yeah, not bad
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[06:03:12] <_av500_> tdh2002: pastebin.com
[06:08:16] <ds2> PASTEBIN!!!!!!!!
[06:08:56] <tdh2002> _av500_: what is it ?
[06:09:36] <_av500_> tdh2002: do you see the .com at the end?
[06:09:42] <_av500_> so it might be a url
[06:09:49] <tdh2002> I know .
[06:09:50] <_av500_> put it into your browser and try
[06:09:55] <tdh2002> ok
[06:10:13] <_av500_> also you are long enough in this channel to have seen it before
[06:10:34] <tdh2002> no
[06:12:12] <tdh2002> but i have no codes. i just use iperf to test the netcard speed.
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[06:12:24] <_av500_> so?
[06:12:49] <tdh2002> pastebin needs codes to paste on it?
[06:12:59] <_av500_> it takes anything
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[06:13:33] <tdh2002> oh
[06:13:41] <_av500_> tdh2002: http://pastebin.com/eA18w8Fn
[06:14:00] <tdh2002> fanit :)
[06:16:04] <tdh2002> i am trying
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[06:24:47] <tdh2002> Max: i thought i know why speed is different between us
[06:26:12] <tdh2002> _av500_ : http://pastebin.com/UKEdSPRW
[06:26:15] <tdh2002> like this?
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[06:31:20] <Max_Galemin> but what if you use iperf with default params? for example "iperf -s" on pc and "iperf -c 192.168.1.122" on BB?
[06:33:17] <tdh2002> 94.7 Mbits/sec
[06:33:24] <_av500_> tdh2002: yes, well done
[06:33:45] <Max_Galemin> hm...
[06:34:41] <Max_Galemin> ok, in any case it doesn't matter for my applications :)
[06:36:27] <tdh2002> even i use usb net card like AX88172B the speed almost 95M.
[06:37:00] <tdh2002> when using beagleboard B6, the speed is only 54M.
[06:38:11] <Max_Galemin> 54M it's a very good speed
[06:39:08] <tdh2002> and 95M is Amazing .....:)
[06:40:06] <Max_Galemin> definitely! :)
[06:40:23] <tdh2002> i used a Gigabit netcard the speed is 200M .. Not very good
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[08:44:23] <koen> sakoman_: it looks like I'll be in SFO at 12/1 and 2 as well :)
[08:50:49] <ds2> koen: where are you visiting?
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[08:51:56] <hgs> hi all, having frequent network unavailable to the omap board. what could be the probable reason?? is there any relation with the serial port and network? i see no network issue when i connect to the serial port to the terminal
[08:51:56] <ksinkar> hi guys
[08:52:57] <tdh2002> hgs: until now i have no issus
[08:53:10] <koen> ds2: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/component/registrationpro/?func=details&did=45
[08:55:43] <tdh2002> It is too far ,
[08:56:10] <ksinkar> has anyone over here used the c6runapp tool successfully?
[08:56:44] <mru> define success
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[09:29:54] <ksinkar> mru: got their graphics code running faster after using c6runapp tool?
[09:30:42] <mru> that I doubt
[09:30:56] <mru> there are no magical go-faster tools
[09:31:12] <av500> you can always run it downhill
[09:33:26] <ksinkar> mru: i want my image processing code to run on that dsp core instead of arm core
[09:33:39] <ksinkar> khasim told me to use the c6runapp tool
[09:33:53] <ksinkar> i have never used it and no one around me either
[09:34:42] <ksinkar> btw on the bb site it is mentioned the opencv has been ported to bb
[09:35:04] <ksinkar> has it been optimized for running on the dsp or does it run on the ARM core only?
[09:35:27] <av500> arm
[09:35:52] <ksinkar> i wanna do it on dsp
[09:36:03] <av500> good luck
[09:36:05] <ksinkar> can u guide me?
[09:36:18] <av500> there was a BB gsoc about opencv on the dsp
[09:36:21] <av500> go have a look
[09:39:15] <tdh2002> go off work bye bye
[09:39:39] <hgs> hmmm... when i have the root fs mounted on nfs, i always able to ping the omap, but when i move everthing to flash i see omap ethernet connection goin on/off
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[09:40:45] <ynezz> maybe it's morse code? :p
[09:40:53] <ynezz> h-e-l-p-m-e
[09:42:55] <hgs> my board is alive..its talking
[09:43:49] <hgs> =-O
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[09:49:22] <av500> koen: rowboat has sgx sdk in a git, no eula, no clickthru?
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[09:50:49] <av500> koen: ignore, its just the .bin in the git
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[09:54:07] <dscience> Hi. I'd like to setup Java on my beagle board xm. Can someone point me to the right direction?
[09:54:31] <mru> -> hell
[09:55:02] <av500> dscience: http://www.aonix.com/pr_09.29.09b.html
[09:57:36] <DesktopMa> hmm can you chroot to an android rootfs on x86? or is that architecture dependant
[09:58:29] <av500> qemu
[09:58:40] <av500> android sdk comes with an emulator
[09:58:58] <mru> running java in qemu sound somehow wrong...
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[10:04:12] <adj> running java at all sounds wrong
[10:04:21] <mru> obviously
[10:04:40] <mru> but the fundamental notion of a virtual machine isn't entirely without merit
[10:04:51] <mru> but running a vm on an emulator...
[10:05:38] <adj> just a while ago i was running windows 2k3 in vmware esxi which was running in vmware player under windows 7
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[10:05:45] <adj> how wrong is that?
[10:08:02] <mru> vmware in vmware?
[10:08:07] <mru> is that even possible?
[10:08:37] <dscience> sounds like Inception
[10:08:39] <av500> seems so
[10:09:15] <adj> yeah, it ran "smoothlty" without any other real problems than the obvious perfomance hit
[10:09:15] <mru> does hw support nested virtualisation?
[10:09:32] <mru> or does it fall back on sw emulation of certain bits
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[10:10:59] <DesktopMa> hardware supported virtualization isn't really much faster anyway. it's not emulation even if the cpu doesn't have virtualization specific extensions
[10:12:08] <mru> it has to trap and emulate privileged instructions
[10:12:32] <mru> and somehow emulate a privileged mode for the guest kernel to run in
[10:12:55] <mru> userspace code runs at full speed of course
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[12:37:03] <reddev> does anyone use static MAC address in BB? can you set mac address in u-boot of when the OS loads? i have tried it in /etc/network/interfaces with hwaddress ether 01:02:03:04:05:06 for usb0 but it does not work.
[12:37:44] <reddev> spelling error in 'mac address in u-boot or when the OS loads'
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[12:38:10] <cwillu_at_work> reddev, what's the exact line you're using?
[12:38:16] <cwillu_at_work> and the exact error message if possible
[12:38:26] <cwillu_at_work> (I'd expect it to show up in /var/log/kern.0.log)
[12:38:30] <cwillu_at_work> (or similar)
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[12:39:04] <reddev> cwillu_at_work using BB xM A rev.
[12:41:00] <reddev> I'm using following lines in interfaces
[12:41:02] <reddev> iface usb0 inet dhcp hwaddress ether 3E:02:D0:71:92:80
[12:42:50] <reddev> and I have Angstrom image. Does anyone use static MAC?
[12:44:36] <cwillu_at_work> reddev, can you give the exact error message it gives you
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[12:47:25] <ogra> reddev, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/673509
[12:47:36] <ogra> fixed in 2.6.37-rc1
[12:47:49] <reddev> cwillu_at_work there is no special error, MAC address won't change. Or then I can't find the error log.
[12:48:24] <cwillu_at_work> \o/
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[13:00:09] <reddev> ogra hey! thank you for this info in launchpad. have to check out the patch
[13:00:22] <ogra> good luck :)
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[13:56:36] <Guest9154> Hi everyone, I downloaded Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2 , configured my SD c ard, etc...now I have the console running but cannot get a GUI, as a Linux beginner, I could not find a way to achieve this, anyone some simple hints how to proceed? A pleasure...
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[14:06:31] <reddev> Guest9154 hey, have you connected BB with serial cable to PC and checked the output? what's the output
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[14:18:49] <reddev> Guest9154 follow Section IV in here http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/HowToGetAngstromRunning to setup u-boot arguments
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[14:54:23] <Guest9154> @reddev: yes, I get a login an can enter as root
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[15:04:52] * cwillu_at_work tries to work out why there's a whole din rail of parts in this box that isn't in the manifest, nor in the invoice we sent, nor in the invoice we received
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[15:08:35] <djlewis> cwillu_at_work: gets his bonus :)
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[15:14:04] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis, the tricky thing is I want to buy the same din rail of gear, and I have no idea what's on it :p
[15:14:13] <cwillu_at_work> I'm gonna be resorting to site pics right away
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[15:16:44] <cwillu_at_work> at least, I would be if I could find them
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[15:30:11] <djlewis> cwillu_at_work: well, whoever sent you the demo should have a list?
[15:31:04] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis, I'm looking at said list
[15:32:54] <cwillu_at_work> I've got a blueprint with the relevant parts and rail, the pinouts thereon are all labelled, they just don't exist on any other paper
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[16:17:50] <GatorBoz> has anyone used the DSTREAM from ARM before?
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[16:29:04] <emeb> it's quiet... Too quiet...
[16:29:28] <mru> the calm before the storm
[16:29:43] <emeb> expecting a wild weekend?
[16:29:53] <mru> one can always hope
[16:30:00] <emeb> heh
[16:31:08] <djlewis> hi guys
[16:31:32] <djlewis> mru: need troll victims?
[16:31:43] <emeb> hi djlewis
[16:31:48] <mru> djlewis: got any good ones?
[16:32:34] <djlewis> perhaps the unsuspecting will drop by later
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[16:36:21] <djlewis> hmmm, time to replace a hd, my hd smart tells me I now have 43 errors of a 98 threshold
[16:36:39] <djlewis> oops 0 threshold, 98 worst
[16:38:51] <sakoman_> koen: looks like we'll finally get to meet in person, I'll be at the same meeting
[16:41:45] <av500> sakoman_: so for koen you do come to sfo! :)
[16:42:20] <sakoman_> av500: I was going before I even knew he would be there
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[16:42:54] <sakoman_> now I must reconsider so as not to offend av500 :-)
[16:43:01] <av500> :9
[16:43:07] <av500> :) Don't
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[16:50:15] <koen> sakoman_: you're required to think of at least 5 yocto puns
[16:50:49] <sakoman_> koen: should be 8 methinks
[16:51:44] <mru> does that count as one?
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[16:54:08] <koen> I think it does
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[16:54:37] <sakoman_> good 7 more to go :-)
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[17:09:58] <GrueMaster> av500: Due to a miscommunication, the kernel testing I asked you to do earlier on BeagleXM vA3 needs to be redone. If you still have the image, there should be a new kernel in maverick-proposed ready to install. Can you install it and reboot?
[17:11:05] * cwillu_at_work giggles in GrueMaster's direction, having overheard the backstory :)
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[17:11:46] <GrueMaster> For the record, I had nothing to do with that mess (and am rather displeased by it).
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[17:22:52] <zoof> has anyone here laid out their own pcb?
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[17:23:58] <Squintz> I would like to learn how to tell which POP Memory chips are compatible with the OMAP3530-CBB. Is there anyone here that can assist me? I'm going to spin my own board and since the 2G used in the Beagle has an End of Life state I would like to use a different chip.
[17:26:42] <zoof> Look at this chart, omap compatible memory, http://www.micron.com/partscatalog.html?categoryPath=products/parametric/MCP/multichip_packages
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[17:28:34] <Squintz> I saw that page and was looking at using this: MT29C4G96MAZAPCJG-5 IT
[17:29:05] <Squintz> I see it says OMAP but was not sure if that meant all omaps.
[17:31:07] <zoof> Same package I was looking, I have same concern for DM3730 CUS package, Beagle XM had the issue with nand i wouldn't want to repeat
[17:37:28] <Squintz> Is the 3530 capable of addressing 4Gb. Where can I look on TI to find the answer?
[17:37:49] <jacekowski> in trm
[17:37:55] <jacekowski> or datasheet
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[17:57:30] <zoof> 3530 has two chip selects, 4Gbits max on each select, 8G total for lpddr sdram
[18:00:13] <ds2> p
[18:00:16] <Squintz> So these use the SDRC interface and not the GPMC interface?
[18:01:13] <jonpry> zoof, i've layed it out
[18:01:21] <jonpry> using CUS
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[18:02:42] <jonpry> Squintz, ddr is on sdrc, and nand on gpmc. some pop's have both
[18:02:47] <Squintz> Which layout software did you use jonpry?
[18:02:54] <jonpry> allegro
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[18:04:22] <Squintz> Hmm... I'm slowly starting to understand.
[18:05:07] <zoof> jonpry, what package for memory on pcb did you use, was the track spacing via more affected by memory than CUS package in your case?
[18:05:55] <jonpry> i used bga90 memory. i don't understand your other question
[18:06:21] <jonpry> it is not possible without at least 5/5
[18:06:54] <jonpry> supposedly you can get away with 10/20 vias but i couldn't see how and used 8/18
[18:07:24] <GrueMaster> av500: Ping
[18:07:44] <zoof> cus package ball to ball meant to relax requirements somewhat relative to BB package and thought the memory package ball spacing would dominate the board rules
[18:07:59] <jonpry> not really
[18:08:19] <zoof> 8/18 via and 5/5 is good! that's where most of my other stuff has been recently
[18:08:30] <jonpry> cus requires 5/5. .8mm memory might be possible with 6/6. and if you use pop memory as a bga, definitely 6/6
[18:08:54] <jonpry> maybe even 8/8
[18:09:39] <zoof> how were your vias, through or blind/buried
[18:09:45] <jonpry> through
[18:10:33] <jonpry> but it is not for the faint of heart. i had to route the board to 90% completion by hand
[18:10:52] <zoof> nice, i'm a little less worried already, did you follow a particular schematic beagle xM, mistral etc?
[18:11:39] <jonpry> not really. i read all the schematics available but had to make my own.
[18:12:03] <jonpry> really watch out for the PMIC's, BB and such use .4mm 209 bga
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[18:13:12] <jonpry> iirc, that signs you up for 3/3 microvia
[18:13:53] <zoof> ok..i was going to look into a ball spaced relaxed pmic, I hear there may be one....Wow, 3/3 microvia is exactly what I don't want!
[18:14:43] <jonpry> i designed using tps65910 in qfn, and a seperate ts controller/codec combo and battery charger
[18:15:11] <jonpry> however the RTP i was quoted for the chip appears to have been way off base and i can't get it
[18:17:45] <zoof> that's sound good, I thought I would have to upgrade the codec for higher sampling rate as well, battery charger circuit needs more juice for me too
[18:20:15] <zoof> how long a lead time for qfn tps65910?
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[18:24:00] <jonpry> 2 month ago i was told it would be available in 2-3 weeks
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[18:26:08] <zoof> that's crazy, no samples available for your boards?
[18:26:57] <jonpry> not yet. i'm going to have to power with external supplies
[18:30:40] <zoof> as long as the power sequence is mimicked it should be ok i'm sure, i'm probably 8 weeks from needing parts, hopefully it will all work out, what type of memory used the bga90?
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[18:31:29] <jonpry> a micron lpddr 2gb. not sure of the exact number, but there is only one
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[18:35:01] <zoof> i keep wondering if a module is the better way to go on these for my application...the magik 3730 looks good, don't know the pricing
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[18:40:23] <jonpry> or the BB
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[18:43:55] <zoof> true, unfortunately i need something smaller
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[20:21:25] <ds2> crhc?
[20:22:18] <emeb> can recently haz cheezburger?
[20:22:43] <ds2> I used to know what cso was.. just curious what dept is crhc
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[20:24:28] <emeb> ah - where mrj10 is from...
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[21:04:15] <_av500_> GrueMaster: sorry, missed you
[21:04:22] <_av500_> so monday only
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[21:05:39] <GrueMaster> Monday only?
[21:05:41] <GrueMaster> Ok
[21:06:02] <_av500_> its at the office
[21:06:07] <GrueMaster> Ah.
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[22:33:38] <coppermine> im deciding between a bagleboard or gumstix for linux embedded projects
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[23:12:49] <PsyXhO> hey, quick question: I am trying to use a RF keyboard that has a USB dongle. When I plug the dongle straight into the beagleboard's USB port, it does not get power, but when I plug it into a USB hub which is connected to the port on the beagleboard, it works fine. The USB hub is not externally powered. Any ideas what could be causing this?
[23:14:41] <aholler_> the stick is usb 1
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[23:24:22] <PsyXhO> what is usb 1?
[23:24:36] <PsyXhO> oh, as opposed to usb 2.0?
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[23:25:45] <cwillu_at_work> PsyXhO, yep. It gets power, it just can't talk :p
[23:25:55] <cwillu_at_work> (and so remarkably, it doesn't use any power :p)
[23:26:02] <PsyXhO> ouch
[23:26:07] <PsyXhO> is there anything I can do?
[23:26:11] <cwillu_at_work> PsyXhO, use a hub
[23:26:26] <PsyXhO> I don't want to put an entire hub on a tiny helicopter :(
[23:26:32] <PsyXhO> it can barely lift itself :P
[23:26:44] <cwillu_at_work> you could use the otg port
[23:27:06] <aholler_> or get a usb 2.x dongle
[23:27:16] <cwillu_at_work> aholler_, probably easier said than done :p
[23:27:29] <PsyXhO> interesting
[23:27:32] <PsyXhO> the otg port will work?
[23:27:33] <cwillu_at_work> it's not a network dongle, it's the matching dongle for a keyboard
[23:27:46] <cwillu_at_work> PsyXhO, yes, assuming there's sufficient power, and you don't run into any driver troubles
[23:27:58] <PsyXhO> alright, excellent, I'll try that
[23:28:00] <PsyXhO> thanks a bunch :)
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[23:28:29] <cwillu_at_work> you'll need to get a mini-a to mini-b cable, or a bad bad cable that shouldn't exist + shorting out the tiny sawtooth pad on the underside of the beagle
[23:28:30] <cwillu_at_work> ...
[23:28:41] <coppermine> is it possible to get the beagleboard to run under 2 watts with wifi?
[23:28:51] <coppermine> can the cpu clock speed be decreased via software?
[23:29:13] <cwillu_at_work> I don't think the cpu speed helps you there, but I could be mistaken
[23:29:21] <coppermine> generally it does on small devices
[23:29:35] <cwillu_at_work> depends on lots of things
[23:29:37] <coppermine> but cortex is effecient allready
[23:29:46] <cwillu_at_work> I just have a vague recollection that it didn't help in this specific case
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[23:31:39] <coppermine> or can i disable certain onboard subsystems that i dont need?
[23:31:39] <jonpry> if you reduce the clock speed it will save some power. after reducing it you can also reduce the core voltage which will save a lot more
[23:31:41] <coppermine> to save power
[23:32:10] <coppermine> not sure if gumstix is better for power consumption
[23:32:13] <jonpry> and you can also enable reverse body bias if you have an xm
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[23:33:29] <coppermine> in any case if it can be powered via usb, usb is 5V with 500ma max right
[23:33:32] <coppermine> so 2.5watts total
[23:33:42] <jonpry> it can't be powered by usb
[23:33:46] <coppermine> oh
[23:34:19] <cwillu_at_work> coppermine, powered via usb, you're running very thin on available power; basically any other peripherals are going to put you over
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[23:52:31] <ds2> that 500mA is only available for sure if you enumerate and get granted 500mA privs.
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