• [00:07:51] <Guest47507> i'm booting my beagleboard and angstrom begins normally, but instead of the prompt for the user/pass i get the command line in the dvi output
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  • [00:55:08] <djlewis> Guest47507: that might depend on the os on the SD
  • [01:01:24] <Guest47507> so do i have to install everything manually?
  • [01:01:40] <Guest47507> ie. get xorg from opkg, then install gnome or whatever
  • [01:01:52] <djlewis> I cant say, not knowing what is on the SD. Did it come with the XM?
  • [01:02:15] <Guest47507> yeah
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  • [01:04:17] <djlewis> Guest47507: if you can get a spare SD or two you can download complete system.
  • [01:04:38] <djlewis> iirc the supplied sd is more a starter and diagnostics.
  • [01:04:57] <Guest47507> i see
  • [01:05:11] <Guest47507> it does start angstrom though
  • [01:05:24] <Guest47507> so i just assumed it's the normal angstrom
  • [01:05:26] <Guest47507> i'll do that
  • [01:05:26] <djlewis> I suppose you could build that one up but I dont know the steps to get a full gui up.
  • [01:05:41] <jonpry> startx ?
  • [01:06:04] <jonpry> or init 5
  • [01:06:27] <djlewis> jonpry: hi, did you get one like him?
  • [01:06:39] <djlewis> XM and starter SD?
  • [01:07:02] <jonpry> i don't have a BB, but that is what i would try on a console linux system if i wanted gui to come up
  • [01:07:29] <djlewis> yea, makes sense. I think the supplied SD is not a full DEMO though
  • [01:08:38] <djlewis> But I dont have a XM either and do not know for sure.
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  • [01:14:13] <djlewis> yeah, reading up on http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnosticsNext it looks like he has the validation image.
  • [01:15:29] <djlewis> Guest47507: ^^^
  • [01:18:26] <Guest47507> makes sense
  • [01:18:30] <Guest47507> thanks!
  • [01:18:45] <djlewis> np
  • [01:18:59] <Guest47507> (i also remember looking for a startx in /usr/bin and not finding one)
  • [01:19:41] <djlewis> I dont think it trivial to add X
  • [01:20:41] <djlewis> Guest47507: what are you wanting to achive with your BB?
  • [01:20:59] <djlewis> achieve
  • [01:22:08] <Guest47507> wearable computer
  • [01:22:43] <Guest47507> hopefully something more interesting than this
  • [01:22:44] <Guest47507> http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/beagleboard-finds-new-purpose-in-diy-wearable-computer/
  • [01:23:09] <djlewis> yep, ive been seeing that
  • [01:23:32] <dancios> where is /lib/modules/kernver/build ?
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  • [01:26:55] <djlewis> I agree with you "hopefully" though I do give him credot for the improvements he made on an already existing BB project
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  • [01:40:03] <ds2> adding X can be trivial...esp. if you use the webbuilder
  • [01:40:19] <djlewis> hehee
  • [01:40:53] <djlewis> ds2: you referring to narcissus?
  • [01:40:57] <ds2> yeah
  • [01:41:20] <topfs2> best tool ever :)
  • [01:41:25] <djlewis> yes, but to add it manually to a console only image. then what
  • [01:41:33] <ds2> someone of us have different views of the OE droppings but....
  • [01:41:45] <ds2> you can always do opkg install foo-bar
  • [01:41:58] <ds2> basically you just do 'insert turd here'
  • [01:41:59] <djlewis> if you know the list of foobar to add
  • [01:42:10] <djlewis> aren't you in a mood ;)
  • [01:42:30] <ds2> like I said, some of us have specific views of OE
  • [01:42:44] <ds2> <-- writing recipes :/
  • [01:43:02] <djlewis> that can take the piss and vinegar out os anyone
  • [01:43:09] <djlewis> s/os/of
  • [01:43:28] <djlewis> or make it worse
  • [01:43:42] <ds2> it isn't too bad; just irritating ;)
  • [01:44:08] <djlewis> i looked at a few "simple" recipies and arrggh'd out of it.
  • [01:44:23] <ds2> eh? they are straight forward
  • [01:44:59] <djlewis> kinda like taking on yet another programming language in script form
  • [01:45:17] <ds2> sort of
  • [01:45:24] <djlewis> looks more straight forward to me than makefile though
  • [01:45:31] <ds2> I'll do makefiles anyday
  • [01:45:57] <ds2> I much rather be doing something that ties more closely into hw then to try to appease sw folk ;)
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  • [01:46:24] * djlewis has one of those rolling thunder storms going on :)
  • [01:46:35] <ds2> nice, I miss t-storms and lightning
  • [01:46:54] <djlewis> I can do without the close hits
  • [01:47:25] <ds2> are you on a hill with a 50ft antenna tower near you? ;)
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  • [01:47:29] <djlewis> uh-oh, its gotten suddenly very quiet. a close one might be eminent
  • [01:47:37] <djlewis> 100ft
  • [01:48:14] <djlewis> actually it is a couple miles off.
  • [01:48:18] <djlewis> the tower
  • [01:48:25] <ds2> OE feels too much like scon-ish
  • [01:48:58] <djlewis> A make replacement like Cons, written in Python and featuring MD5 file signature
  • [01:49:01] <djlewis> that one?
  • [01:49:10] <ds2> yes
  • [01:49:37] <djlewis> i was first thinking a snail dish but google corrected me
  • [01:50:01] <ds2> now I want snails for dinner ;)
  • [01:50:38] * djlewis wonders if these big ol arkansas slugs are any good to eat.
  • [01:50:49] <ds2> not terrestrial ones
  • [01:51:02] <djlewis> sea water type, huh?
  • [01:51:13] <ds2> yeah
  • [01:51:28] <djlewis> there is so much good seafood
  • [01:51:48] <ds2> yes
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  • [01:54:32] <djlewis> now a downpour
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  • [02:00:35] <metaliving> narcissus is indeed the best tool ever
  • [02:02:44] <djlewis> metaliving: you already put it to work ;
  • [02:04:15] <metaliving> no
  • [02:04:34] <metaliving> i will just prepare the sd card now
  • [02:05:10] <metaliving> don't have a monitor in my room so i have to go to some computer lab to see dvi output
  • [02:05:41] <djlewis> I am presently running htis on my RevC2
  • [02:05:43] <djlewis> http://www.sakoman.com/
  • [02:07:50] <metaliving> looks fairly loaded
  • [02:07:55] <djlewis> yup
  • [02:08:09] <djlewis> there is a console image as well if that is your preference
  • [02:08:51] <metaliving> sounds good, i might try it after i get angstrom running
  • [02:09:14] <djlewis> yep, you should experience the learning process :)
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  • [03:32:56] <tdh2002> git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux.git, is this git the latest ?
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  • [03:40:10] <cwillu> I'm pretty sure the official angstrom kernel grabs patches from a shady server in russia, and includes as firmware a oddly repeating period of noise from a seti station with intriguing statistical properties
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  • [03:42:09] <tdh2002_> Hi every one
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  • [03:49:14] <topfs2> which sgx core is it in the beagle xM? is it 535?
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  • [04:03:08] <tdh2002_> GO eating -_-
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  • [04:34:42] <Max_Galemin> hi all! I made a patch for kernel 2.6.36 for running BB-xM on 1 GHz (adjusting VDD1 voltage to the level of 1.35V) but I'm not sure that everything is done prorerly, so could you please review the changes in code? thanks!
  • [04:35:55] <Max_Galemin> I posted it here http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/cf726c93f9c72cd5
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  • [04:41:52] <aholler_> I assume with a git-patch you would get more people to test that
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  • [04:42:42] <Max_Galemin> hmmm... but why? :)
  • [04:43:42] <Max_Galemin> just exec "patch -p1 < [path_to_patch_file]" in linux kernel filder
  • [04:43:48] <Max_Galemin> *folder
  • [04:46:22] <aholler> first it's easier to read, second using git, you will have a comment (and an author-email) in the repo
  • [04:47:51] <Max_Galemin> I'm sorry, but I don't have access to the repo (probably) :)
  • [04:48:02] <aholler> git clone
  • [04:48:13] <aholler> and then just work in your repo
  • [04:48:36] <aholler> commit your changes to your repo and use git-send-email to send those patches
  • [04:49:08] <aholler> and you can browse your changes using gitk ;)
  • [04:50:22] <Max_Galemin> you are talking about committing the code and I'm talking about patch: "git diff"
  • [04:50:46] <Max_Galemin> there is no any emails or comments in patch
  • [04:51:05] <aholler> git format-patch
  • [04:51:22] <aholler> will give you nice patches
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  • [04:53:01] <aholler> anyway, diff -Naur would still be more readable than diff -U20 (imho).
  • [04:54:01] <aholler> but it's just 2?? ;)
  • [04:54:12] <aholler> s/2??/my 2??/
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  • [04:55:47] <Max_Galemin> thanks for this usefull information but I would be very grateful if you take a look to the changes in code and tell me your opinion :)
  • [04:56:30] <aholler> sorry, can't help there, I don't have a xm and I don't know anything about all those voltages ;)
  • [04:56:37] <Max_Galemin> is it possible to anderstand the code with "-N20" option? :)
  • [04:56:51] <Max_Galemin> thank you very much :)
  • [04:57:29] <aholler> I only know -Naur. I wondered about your changes, because I had to search them. at least in teh second diff, they are hard to find ;)
  • [04:58:38] <Max_Galemin> p.s. we use -N20 for code review on our firm as it's much more easier to see code around the changes (we use codestriker)
  • [04:59:55] <aholler> hmm, mpurate<2000 looks suspicious
  • [05:00:24] <aholler> how much is possible?
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  • [05:01:27] <Max_Galemin> at the moment it's impossible (to get freq 2 GHz) but with mpurate<1000 it's much more difficult to get freq 1 GHz :)
  • [05:02:05] <aholler> using <2000, I asumme 1999 will be possible and one has to use a refrigerator. maybe <= would to the trick
  • [05:02:21] <Max_Galemin> it should be or mpurate<=1000 (only for freq <= 1GHz) or 2000 (for future implementations)
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  • [05:03:40] <Max_Galemin> actually a would like to hear about the actual solution (1.35V and for VDD1 only, without updating VDD2)
  • [05:04:04] <Max_Galemin> but in any case thanks for your review :)
  • [05:04:27] <aholler> I assume most (eu-)people will wakeup in a few hours ;)
  • [05:05:01] <Max_Galemin> yep, it's true :)
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  • [05:08:17] <aholler> the linux-omap-ml could be a good resource too to catch people having knowledge about that
  • [05:09:48] <jonpry> Max_Galemin: shouldn't you do that via the regulator driver?
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  • [05:13:01] <Max_Galemin> jonpry: how can it be done without using TPS65950?
  • [05:13:28] <jonpry> there is already a driver that does all of the i2c writes to that chip
  • [05:13:45] <jonpry> well sort of anyways
  • [05:14:14] <jonpry> i'm not sure of all the details, but it seems to be handled by the twl driver
  • [05:14:23] <Max_Galemin> could you please point me to this driver?
  • [05:15:13] <Max_Galemin> well, I thought that twl_i2c_write_u8 is a part of twl driver...
  • [05:15:27] <Max_Galemin> no? :)
  • [05:15:43] <jonpry> it is but there is higher level stuff for setting voltages other than clobbering the chips registers
  • [05:15:56] <jonpry> like this does something:
  • [05:15:58] <jonpry> static struct regulator_init_data beagle_vmmc1 = {
  • [05:15:58] <jonpry> .constraints = {
  • [05:15:58] <jonpry> .min_uV = 1850000,
  • [05:15:58] <jonpry> .max_uV = 3150000,
  • [05:15:58] <jonpry> .valid_modes_mask = REGULATOR_MODE_NORMAL
  • [05:15:59] <jonpry> | REGULATOR_MODE_STANDBY,
  • [05:16:01] <jonpry> .valid_ops_mask = REGULATOR_CHANGE_VOLTAGE
  • [05:16:03] <jonpry> | REGULATOR_CHANGE_MODE
  • [05:16:05] <jonpry> | REGULATOR_CHANGE_STATUS,
  • [05:16:07] <jonpry> },
  • [05:16:10] <jonpry> .num_consumer_supplies = 1,
  • [05:16:12] <jonpry> .consumer_supplies = &beagle_vmmc1_supply,
  • [05:16:13] <jonpry> };
  • [05:17:12] <jonpry> i think if you set the name to DCDC1 or whatever twl thinks it should be, and constrain the voltage to the way you want it. it should set it
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  • [05:18:57] <jonpry> i am writing a driver for tps65910. in theory my driver works but i have yet to hook it up to other platform stuff, which is kind of where you are at
  • [05:20:12] <Max_Galemin> yes, you are right, it's better to do everything using regulators
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  • [05:21:39] <Max_Galemin> this patch it's just a quick workaroung, not a complete solution :) complete solution is using smartreflex
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  • [05:22:24] <Max_Galemin> probably if I have time in future I'll implement normal driver
  • [05:22:32] <jonpry> for sure. if you are testing the function its one thing. but clobbering a drivers i2c registers from a board file is unlikely to go very far upstream
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  • [05:23:46] <Max_Galemin> basically the main goal is stabilizing 2.6.36 kernel for my hobby project on BB-xM with 1 GHz freq :)
  • [05:24:23] <jonpry> reflex sounds cool. there is also that nasty RBB/FBB stuff
  • [05:24:33] <Max_Galemin> i'll be happy to take a part in implementing proper solution with other developers
  • [05:25:37] <Max_Galemin> SR is already implemented by guys from Arago
  • [05:25:51] <Max_Galemin> in 2.6.32
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  • [05:25:59] <jonpry> i will look into that
  • [05:26:16] <jonpry> afaik to go to 1ghz you need to enable the forward body bias regulator
  • [05:26:17] <ds2> pastebin, please!
  • [05:26:46] <Max_Galemin> but I need to continue with my project and I can't spend a lot of time implementing proper drivers :(
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  • [05:27:22] <jonpry> nothing to do with proper. the chip just won't ever be stable
  • [05:28:14] <jonpry> however, i have no idea how to turn it on
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  • [05:29:09] <tdh2002_> the tps69530 doent work?
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  • [05:29:36] <Max_Galemin> tdh2002_: why? it works :)
  • [05:30:03] <tdh2002_> O_o
  • [05:30:44] <Max_Galemin> oh, sorry, I thought you are talking about tps65950 :)
  • [05:32:01] <jonpry> anyways, i think you need a couple lines from here to get it working. http://arago-project.org/git/people/?p=sriram/ti-psp-omap.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d78b8198d220d5ebade7587caf664a0ef8c8fe7
  • [05:32:42] <jonpry> i think the fewline after: /* program for fast opp - enable FBB */ at the minimum
  • [05:34:48] <Max_Galemin> should it be applied for DM3730?
  • [05:34:56] <jonpry> absolutely
  • [05:36:09] <Max_Galemin> ok, I need to read about this technology :)
  • [05:36:20] <Max_Galemin> *technique
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  • [07:59:59] <ds2> @%$!#@#@! Google
  • [08:01:05] <adj> ?
  • [08:01:23] <ds2> search for an 850mm lense and it returns hits for F1.8 50mm lense...wtf
  • [08:01:55] <adj> google knows better what you really want :)
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  • [08:04:08] <ds2> and I thought I found a F1.8 850mm lense :/
  • [08:04:53] <adj> well THAT would be a beast
  • [08:04:53] <dm8tbr> that would be one of a large shard
  • [08:05:20] * dm8tbr high-5's adj
  • [08:05:50] <ds2> I started looking for a F1.8 1200mm lense so that's quite a compromise ;)
  • [08:07:02] <av500> ds2: right!
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  • [08:57:34] <andrewzro> hy all. I got a question: Is there any way to force a BeagleBoard C4 to boot from MMC ?? I don't want to press USER all the time. Can this be done? maybe with a boot.scr ??
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  • [08:58:32] <adj> it depends on what you want to load from mmc
  • [08:58:46] <andrewzro> U-boot
  • [08:58:47] <mru> blank the first block of nand
  • [08:59:23] <adj> if it's okay to load x-loader from nand and the rest from mmc, that's fine too. And mrus comment will cause the x-loader to be loaded from mmc, too
  • [08:59:46] <andrewzro> but that would mean that I won't be able to boot from NAND again, right?
  • [08:59:57] <av500> no
  • [09:00:04] <mru> if user button is not pressed, rom will try loading something from the first block of nand
  • [09:00:09] <av500> you can flash a new nand
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  • [09:00:21] <mru> if there's nothing there, it will search mmc (eventually)
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  • [09:00:42] <andrewzro> got it. thanks
  • [09:00:50] <mru> when x-loader is running, wherever it was loaded from, it too will search both nand and mmc for u-boot
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  • [09:01:24] <mru> to make sure it boots from mmc, you should blank both the x-loader and u-boot nand partitions
  • [09:02:13] <andrewzro> ok. thank you
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  • [09:43:02] <fabjan> Hello, I have a Beagleboard C4 and was trying to read the user button from /sys/class/gpio, but after `echo 7 > /sys/class/gpio/export` there is no /sys/class/gpio/gpio7.
  • [09:44:04] <fabjan> I looked around a bit to see if I hade the wrong gpio number but the reference manual says 7 for the user button on the C4
  • [09:45:13] <adj> does your kernel reserve gpio 7 for some other use?
  • [09:45:39] <fabjan> not that I know of, I'm using Angstroms default Beagleboard image
  • [09:45:48] <adj> iirc, some reacent beagle kernels already connect user button to a gpio event input
  • [09:46:44] <fabjan> I can read the events from /dev/input/event0
  • [09:47:04] <fabjan> do I have to disable that somehow to make the gpio free for me to use in /sys/class/gpio?
  • [09:47:48] <adj> yep. There might be some Correct way to do it but the only way I know is to remove that mapping from board file and recompile kernel
  • [09:47:59] <fabjan> I'm reading from Erlang and it can't read devices. Otherwise /dev/input/event0 would have been fine.
  • [09:48:17] <fabjan> adj: all right, thanks
  • [09:48:30] <fabjan> I'll see if I can find a way without having to recompile.
  • [09:48:37] <adj> fabjan: you could perhaps do some user space wrapper with C?
  • [09:49:08] <fabjan> yeah
  • [09:49:09] <adj> read event0 and update e.g. some file?
  • [09:49:42] <fabjan> I can write a c function to call from Erlang actually
  • [09:49:46] <fabjan> might be the easiest way
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  • [09:57:16] <rsv> i have a question on why uart lines are pulled low and not high?
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  • [10:32:56] <rodrigo_golive> morning
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  • [11:17:14] <tasslehoff> what's needed to make OTG behave like a "normal" usb input, i.e. like the ehci one.
  • [11:17:27] * tasslehoff hopes the terminology is close to correct
  • [11:17:31] <av500> for host mode
  • [11:17:32] <av500> force
  • [11:18:09] <tasslehoff> av500: using a command line curse?
  • [11:18:29] <av500> hmm
  • [11:18:47] <av500> is there a kernel config for it?
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  • [11:29:17] <tasslehoff> hm. there's a bunch of otg-options I don't understand in the kernel config at least :)
  • [11:29:42] <mru> try all combinations until it works
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  • [11:30:20] <tasslehoff> ah, there we have it. Driver Mode: USB OTG Device.
  • [11:32:17] <av500> module_param (mode_default, int, 0);
  • [11:32:32] <av500> its a module param
  • [11:32:45] <av500> MODULE_PARM_DESC(mode_default, "default usb role: 1 - host, 2 - peripheral");
  • [11:33:42] <koen> plug in a proper cable :)
  • [11:37:06] <tasslehoff> av500: I know nothing about module_param's, but it sounds like that means I should leave the kernel config alone?
  • [11:38:06] <tasslehoff> koen: that is actually probably the best answer :)
  • [11:38:31] <tasslehoff> OTG said this about my USB->Ethernet adapter though: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power
  • [11:38:44] <av500> otg is 100mA
  • [11:38:48] <av500> per spec
  • [11:38:51] <av500> and per TWL
  • [11:39:03] <av500> if your eth asks for more, it will be rejected
  • [11:40:23] <av500> you could of course supply your own 5V on the musb 5v
  • [11:40:36] <av500> and tell the kernel this fact
  • [11:42:27] <tasslehoff> will maybe have to do that, cause it rejected my usbstick as well.
  • [11:42:44] <tasslehoff> and I have to reboot as a punishment for every rejection, it seems :)
  • [11:43:40] <jkridner|work> just so there is no confusion when the CraneBoard is announced (http://craneboard.org)... it is as simple as a low-cost Mistral designed EVM for the AM3517 that removes the DSP from the OMAP3530 and adds 3.3V I/O, on-chip Ethernet, CAN bus, and DDR2 support.
  • [11:44:20] <mru> ddr2 at what speed?
  • [11:44:23] <av500> jkridner|work: who is behind craneboard.org?
  • [11:44:29] <jkridner|work> Mistral.
  • [11:44:39] <av500> price?
  • [11:44:45] <av500> wtf 199
  • [11:45:03] <jkridner|work> yeah... not intended to be community.
  • [11:45:30] <av500> why does the website then tell people to get help from bb.org?
  • [11:45:39] <av500> can we charge CB users?
  • [11:45:56] <jkridner|work> hehe, because if you want software for it, that's pretty much where you'll get it from.
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  • [11:46:13] <jkridner|work> it is more about enabling people to make their own boards cheaper.
  • [11:46:45] <jkridner|work> if you wanted to make a BeagleBoard-like board, the AM3517 is cheaper than OMAP3530 or DM3730 and it allows you to use cheaper components on your board...
  • [11:46:52] <jkridner|work> no need to add external Ethernet....
  • [11:46:55] <av500> sure
  • [11:47:00] <jkridner|work> using DDR2, instead of LPDDR...
  • [11:47:06] <jkridner|work> no need for level shifters...
  • [11:47:07] <jkridner|work> etc.
  • [11:47:12] <av500> \\\ooo///
  • [11:47:14] <mru> why not AM37xx?
  • [11:47:26] <av500> because dsp is hard :)
  • [11:47:35] <mru> AM37 doesn't have dsp
  • [11:47:41] <mru> that's the point
  • [11:47:48] <jkridner|work> I'm not sure what the price diff is to AM37xx, but AM37xx still has 1.8V I/O and LPDDR... and not integrated Ethernet.
  • [11:48:00] <mru> oh
  • [11:48:04] <av500> so its a dm37xx?
  • [11:48:12] <av500> with another name
  • [11:48:16] <mru> yes
  • [11:48:18] <jkridner|work> AM37x is a pure DM37x subset.
  • [11:48:24] <mru> efuses I bet
  • [11:48:26] <av500> what is missing?
  • [11:48:38] <jkridner|work> AM37x removes DSP.
  • [11:48:44] <av500> see
  • [11:48:47] <mru> any plans for an AM3717?
  • [11:48:54] <jkridner|work> OMAP3503 --> AM3703
  • [11:49:00] <jkridner|work> OMAP3515 --> AM3715
  • [11:49:07] <jkridner|work> OMAP3525 --> DM3725
  • [11:49:09] <mru> the dsp is obviously still there in Si
  • [11:49:12] <jkridner|work> OMAP3530 --> DM3730
  • [11:49:22] <av500> err
  • [11:49:24] <av500> 3630
  • [11:49:37] <jkridner|work> DM37x is all OMAP3630 derived, yes.
  • [11:49:48] <mru> derived as in identical
  • [11:50:21] <jkridner|work> AM35x (AM3505, AM3517) doesn't provide a DSP-add equivalent and is more optimized for industrial/automotive use-cases.
  • [11:50:40] <jkridner|work> bigger package...
  • [11:50:49] <jkridner|work> etc.
  • [11:51:30] <ssvb> and what about AM3894?
  • [11:51:56] <jkridner|work> that one is faster and will consume a bit more power.
  • [11:52:19] <jkridner|work> AM3894 supports DDR3 (I think on two busses).
  • [11:52:22] <tasslehoff> could it be that my stupid usb devices ask for way more power than they need? 100mA for a SanDisk memorystick sounds a bit too much.
  • [11:52:39] <av500> tasslehoff: 100ma is the mimimum
  • [11:52:54] <av500> usb ports are required to provide 100mA
  • [11:53:00] <av500> so asking less is pointless
  • [11:53:06] <mru> 500 if you ask nicely
  • [11:53:13] <av500> but there are usb sticks that need more then 100mA
  • [11:53:18] <av500> making the fail on otg prots
  • [11:53:20] <av500> ports
  • [11:53:53] <av500> jkridner|work: dual ddr3 and no dsp, what is the point?
  • [11:54:01] <mru> fast_mempcy
  • [11:54:40] <jkridner|work> av500: PCIe....
  • [11:54:51] <tasslehoff> av500: hm. ok. perhaps I will have to feed it 5V then.
  • [11:55:03] <jkridner|work> so, put it in a rack and get lots of data collection and analysis and control.
  • [11:55:12] <jkridner|work> NEON gives a bit of DSP.
  • [11:55:27] <mru> neon isn't a dsp
  • [11:55:32] <mru> it's a simd coprocessor
  • [11:55:41] <jkridner|work> but it can do some DSP....
  • [11:55:43] <av500> jkridner|work: but what does the HDVPSS do?
  • [11:55:49] <mru> anything can process digital signals
  • [11:55:49] <jkridner|work> why am I arguing that side?!?
  • [11:55:56] <av500> it can capture and output, but not process, right?
  • [11:56:09] <jkridner|work> mru: NEON gives more MACs than you can do without it.
  • [11:56:21] <mru> of course
  • [11:56:28] <jkridner|work> av500: depends on the type of processing required.
  • [11:56:35] <mru> but it's still not a dsp
  • [11:56:57] <jkridner|work> if it is capture and do more simple controls.... and *UI*, then it makes some sense.
  • [11:57:24] <jkridner|work> Sure, one of the octo-core C66x devices is gonna give you a ton more data processing capability.
  • [11:57:35] <av500> and of course, its missing from the TRM
  • [11:57:44] * av500 glares at TI
  • [11:57:46] <jkridner|work> but, some folks are more concerned about running standard software stacks and throwing MHz at a problem.
  • [11:57:51] <av500> right
  • [11:58:02] <jkridner|work> what is missing from what TRM?
  • [11:58:07] <jkridner|work> oh...
  • [11:58:09] <av500> HDVPSS
  • [11:58:09] <jkridner|work> HDVPSS?
  • [11:58:23] <jkridner|work> right....
  • [11:58:25] <jkridner|work> long story. :(
  • [11:58:50] <av500> i fail to see how as a customer I am supposed to select such a chip
  • [11:59:26] <mru> maybe those are just the chips where some parts of Si came out bad
  • [11:59:33] <mru> might as well label them up and sell them
  • [11:59:57] <av500> "...The High-Definition Video Processing Subsystem (HDVPSS) in these devices provides high quality processing of the video signals, such as scaling and noise filtering. Please refer to the HDVPSS section of the datasheet for information on the video processing features available in these devices...."
  • [12:00:01] <av500> ti e2e ftw
  • [12:00:31] <mru> ah, it's an sd2hd upscaler
  • [12:00:39] <av500> yes
  • [12:00:46] <mru> people love those
  • [12:00:56] <av500> "Advanced Video Processing Features Such as Scan/Format/Rate Conversion..."
  • [12:01:21] <av500> its a video wall processor :)
  • [12:01:39] <mru> it does sound like something you might put in a display
  • [12:02:01] <av500> and it has a SGX530 for a 3d on screen menu :)
  • [12:02:27] <av500> instead of [-------->|<-------]
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  • [12:05:15] <av500> jkridner|work: you went offline to put the HDVPSS trm onto rapidshare?
  • [12:05:39] <jkridner|work> not busted, just ran into some licensing hoopla.
  • [12:06:11] <jkridner|work> if I had a good set of HDVPSS TRM materials, I probably would torrent them instead of rapidshare.
  • [12:06:58] <jkridner|work> btw, for a cheaper AM3517 board, there is http://www.variscite.com/...
  • [12:07:10] <jkridner|work> but, they only talk about the module price and not the evaluation board price.
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  • [12:07:21] <av500> jkridner|work: fail, the CB schematics on BB.org are in a zip file
  • [12:07:22] <jkridner|work> and they don't have an easy on-line order form that I could find.
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  • [12:07:44] <jkridner|work> really? you are going to pick on zip? as if you didn't have unzip on your Linux box?
  • [12:08:18] <jkridner|work> from HDVPSS TRM missing to .zip? :)
  • [12:08:24] <av500> :)
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  • [12:08:58] <jkridner|work> as if that was less of a problem then XLS.
  • [12:09:12] <av500> the schematic is in xls?
  • [12:09:19] <av500> i leave it zipped then :)
  • [12:09:19] <jkridner|work> hehe... BOM.
  • [12:09:26] <mru> boom, boom
  • [12:09:27] <woglinde> he even google ships android-sdk as tar and ndk as zip
  • [12:09:46] <jkridner|work> its an OrCAD .dsn.
  • [12:09:48] <av500> woglinde: that is fine, I dont open an sdk or ndk in pdf reader
  • [12:09:57] <av500> jkridner|work: lol
  • [12:10:02] <av500> ok, forget it
  • [12:10:06] <woglinde> you open zip in pdf-reader?
  • [12:10:08] <woglinde> hm
  • [12:10:15] <av500> woglinde: I open schematics in pdf reader
  • [12:10:37] <woglinde> wouldnt be a schematic program better?
  • [12:10:38] <jkridner|work> I was worried it was going to be PDF and not real schematics...
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  • [12:10:55] <av500> woglinde: i also look at a lot of code in a web browser
  • [12:10:56] <jkridner|work> at least this puts me in a better position to make some.
  • [12:11:08] <av500> since both code and sch, I read far more than i write/edit
  • [12:11:27] <woglinde> hm for code I am doing this too
  • [12:11:40] <woglinde> god thanks I didnt have to look at schematics
  • [12:11:51] <av500> if you would, you would appreciate a pdf
  • [12:12:39] <woglinde> hm svg?
  • [12:12:45] <av500> lol
  • [12:12:49] <woglinde> no?
  • [12:12:53] <av500> can you search an svg?
  • [12:13:05] <woglinde> I thought zoom would be better in some cases
  • [12:13:14] <av500> zoom is not a problem
  • [12:13:17] <jkridner|work> av500: according to Brad Neuberg's recent SVG presentation, you can.
  • [12:13:20] <av500> pdf is a vector format
  • [12:13:40] <woglinde> depends anyway whats inside
  • [12:13:47] <woglinde> if you have pics
  • [12:13:47] <av500> jkridner|work: so, once it becomes mainstream in a few decades, I will use it
  • [12:13:49] <jkridner|work> I think an SVG-based schematic capture program would be awesome.
  • [12:13:54] <woglinde> you are lost anyway
  • [12:14:13] <av500> woglinde: schematics dont have little pics of resistors :)
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  • [12:14:32] <woglinde> sure but the schematic could be a pic
  • [12:14:41] <av500> it could
  • [12:14:56] <av500> it could be printed, put on a wooden tables, photographed and scanned
  • [12:15:00] <woglinde> okay trolling minutes are over
  • [12:15:08] <jkridner|work> well, I can see how far my http://craneboard.org discussion went (really probably shouldn't have a .org name, but is a "free reference"). hopefully when it is announce and people bug, there won't be much confusion.
  • [12:15:18] <mru> woglinde: come on, it's almost friday...
  • [12:15:26] <woglinde> mru no no
  • [12:15:34] <woglinde> I need some topcis for tomorrow
  • [12:15:39] <av500> woglinde: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Best_of_2006_0x3a__Web_0_0x2e_1.aspx
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  • [12:16:33] <jkridner|work> more fodder for this crowd of trolls: http://opensourcemid.org
  • [12:16:46] <woglinde> av500 hm yeah thats old
  • [12:17:35] <woglinde> jk who in world would run ce on it
  • [12:17:50] <mru> steve ballmer?
  • [12:18:00] <woglinde> he has a ipad
  • [12:18:03] <woglinde> I believe
  • [12:18:22] <mru> so he'll need something else to run wince on
  • [12:19:25] <av500> jkridner|work: nice, but I like our 299 product better
  • [12:19:41] <jkridner|work> isn't your $299 the 10"?
  • [12:19:47] <av500> ah right
  • [12:19:49] <av500> the 7" is 250
  • [12:20:03] <av500> the osmid is resistive ts
  • [12:20:14] <av500> not nice for 7"
  • [12:20:26] <av500> lunch
  • [12:20:59] <woglinde> av500 hehe cdma
  • [12:22:15] * jkridner|work wonders if anyone has taken one of av500's 10" tablets and connected one of those Kinect cameras just to upset Mr. Ballmer.
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  • [12:35:13] <_koen_> jkridner|work: I can if you send me a tablet and kinect
  • [12:35:39] <jkridner|work> ping av500 for the tablet. :)
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  • [14:05:30] <GatorBoz> Guten Mornen
  • [14:05:42] <GatorBoz> Does anyone have Flyswatter configuration files for Beagle Board handy?
  • [14:05:56] <woglinde> what?
  • [14:06:44] <GatorBoz> guten morgen = good morning in German. Flyswatter configuration files = JTAG debugger config files necessary for Flyswatter and OCD
  • [14:07:08] <av500> what?
  • [14:07:32] <av500> :)
  • [14:07:53] <woglinde> ocd?
  • [14:07:59] <GatorBoz> OpenOCD
  • [14:08:03] <GatorBoz> :)
  • [14:08:15] <av500> jtag?
  • [14:08:21] <GatorBoz> seven?
  • [14:08:24] <GatorBoz> :)
  • [14:08:49] <woglinde> normal beagleboard has no cam?
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  • [14:10:29] <av500> cam?
  • [14:10:30] <av500> no
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  • [14:13:04] <woglinde> av500 yeah so I wonder why he need ocd
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  • [14:14:52] <av500> woglinde: ocd != opencv
  • [14:15:24] <woglinde> okay okay you can copy
  • [14:15:47] <av500> woglinde: any meds you forgot to take?
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  • [14:16:04] <woglinde> ah ocd means here on chip debugger
  • [14:16:05] <woglinde> hehe
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  • [14:17:08] <jedix> does anyone know if it's possible to tell the beagleboard to load xloader/MLO off the memory card instead of nand? maybe using boot.scr or something?
  • [14:17:10] <woglinde> uh
  • [14:17:12] <woglinde> means Obsessive-compulsive disorder
  • [14:17:14] <woglinde> too
  • [14:17:20] <av500> woglinde: hence the meds :)
  • [14:17:29] <av500> jedix: wipe the nand
  • [14:17:38] <woglinde> jedix read the manual
  • [14:17:55] <woglinde> hint hold one of the buttons
  • [14:18:18] <woglinde> after you formated the sd-card the right way
  • [14:18:25] <woglinde> and didnt forgot to put it in
  • [14:19:32] <jedix> yeah, I was hoping I could write it to an sd card and not need to hold the user button.
  • [14:19:36] <jedix> av500: thanks
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  • [15:10:28] <jeremiah_> So I'm holding the user button, and I do believe I have a properly formatted SD card, but I cannot get my little board to boot from the SD card.
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  • [15:11:13] <cwarrior> hi. i am new beagle board user. i have been able to boot Angstrom. The issue is i am not getting HDMI output.
  • [15:11:31] <cwillu> jeremiah_, got a serial connection hooked up to the beagle?
  • [15:11:50] <cwillu> cwarrior, video output specifically?
  • [15:12:27] <jeremiah_> cwillu: Yes, I have a serial cable hooked up. :)
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  • [15:12:38] <cwarrior> yes. on serial i can boot and login into angstrom
  • [15:12:45] <cwillu> jeremiah_, what do you see when it boots? and what's your kernel command line?
  • [15:13:05] <cwillu> cwarrior, are you setting a resolution on the kernel command line?
  • [15:13:20] <cwillu> cwarrior, I believe the docs in http://gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2 are up to date
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  • [15:13:35] <cwarrior> no. i am not aware how to do that
  • [15:13:38] <cwarrior> thanks
  • [15:13:50] <cwillu> let me get you a better link
  • [15:14:30] <cwillu> cwarrior, http://gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/blobs/master/Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS
  • [15:14:36] <jeremiah_> cwillu: Well, I have a boot.scr file. Is that what I should dump to show you the kernel command line?
  • [15:14:52] <cwillu> jeremiah_, print_env
  • [15:15:06] <cwillu> (which will take into account whatever is in the flash environment)
  • [15:15:30] <cwillu> cwarrior, omapfb.mode=1024x768MR-24@60 or whatever
  • [15:15:51] <cwillu> I think you need an vram=2M or whatever as well
  • [15:15:58] <cwillu> but it's all in that file
  • [15:15:59] <jeremiah_> cwillu: It says, amongst other things when I boot: "Loading uboot.bin from nand"
  • [15:16:06] <cwillu> jeremiah_, pastebin please
  • [15:16:10] <cwillu> http://paste.pocoo.org/
  • [15:16:16] <jeremiah_> cwillu: Will do. :)
  • [15:16:29] <cwarrior> cwillu, i am using the demo image of angstrom at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ i was hoping that display sytem would be up to date.
  • [15:16:51] <cwillu> cwarrior, it probably is
  • [15:16:57] <cwillu> that doesn't mean you don't have to configure it
  • [15:17:11] <_koen_> if you're using angstrom, check the /boot/DSS file
  • [15:17:29] <cwillu> ah good, somebody who knows :)
  • [15:17:34] <_koen_> that doc should match the kernel
  • [15:18:30] <cwarrior> _koen_ is that for me
  • [15:18:52] <_koen_> if you want to know DSS args, yes
  • [15:19:04] <_koen_> if 'setenv dvimode foo' is not enough
  • [15:19:23] <jeremiah_> cwillu: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/293112/
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  • [15:20:05] <cwillu> vram=12c doesn't look right, but that might be something I don't know about
  • [15:20:36] <cwillu> jeremiah_, it just hangs after "booting kernel"?
  • [15:20:46] <cwillu> do the led's flash at all at that point, or do they just stay on solid?
  • [15:21:09] <cwarrior> _koen_ could you elaborate on that
  • [15:21:14] <jeremiah_> Yeah, it hangs after booting the kernel and then on the screen I see some Ubuntu kernel messages
  • [15:21:17] <cwillu> jeremiah_, adding "console=ttyS2" or "console=ttyO2" (if you're on a 2.6.37 kernel) might be more enlightening
  • [15:21:33] <jeremiah_> Then it appears to drop into a initramfs shell from which I cannot execute commands
  • [15:21:53] <cwillu> jeremiah_, okay, add "console=ttyS2" to the bootargs
  • [15:21:59] <cwillu> that'll put the boot messages on the serial prompt
  • [15:22:07] <cwillu> also, you may want to bug the folks in #ubuntu-arm
  • [15:22:13] <jeremiah_> nice
  • [15:22:18] <jeremiah_> okay, I'll do that.
  • [15:22:23] <jeremiah_> Thanks cwillu
  • [15:22:28] <cwillu> np
  • [15:22:42] <jeremiah_> cwillu: The leds all stay solid
  • [15:22:45] <jeremiah_> That is kinda weird
  • [15:22:49] <jeremiah_> They never did that before.
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  • [15:23:07] <cwarrior> when i power up the beagle board (c4), shouldn't i be getting a beagle image on display?
  • [15:23:07] <jeremiah_> I wonder if it is because I went from a small image to a larger one on the SD card.
  • [15:24:34] <koen> to get rid of bogus uboot env: nand erase 260000 20000
  • [15:25:34] <av500> koen: or: "digikey order xm"
  • [15:27:46] <cwillu> I like that one!
  • [15:27:55] <cwillu> sudo apt-get install digikey
  • [15:30:57] <jeremiah_> koen: What happens if you erase the nand? Can you boot from an SD card or USB?
  • [15:31:03] <jeremiah_> Or do you have to replace the nand?
  • [15:31:13] <av500> yes
  • [15:31:15] <av500> boot from sd
  • [15:31:17] <av500> or usb
  • [15:31:19] <av500> ir serial
  • [15:31:21] <av500> or
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  • [15:32:52] <jeremiah_> Umm. You guys rock.
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  • [15:33:06] <jeremiah_> Now my beagle is booting from my SD card . . .
  • [15:33:17] <jeremiah_> Lights are flashing . . .
  • [15:33:22] <av500> omg
  • [15:33:30] <woglinde> and now its burn the cpu
  • [15:33:33] <av500> you activated the self destruct
  • [15:33:34] <woglinde> hihi
  • [15:33:35] <av500> RUN!
  • [15:33:43] <jeremiah_> Yikes!!
  • [15:33:48] <jeremiah_> Smoke everywhere!
  • [15:33:50] <jeremiah_> Flames!
  • [15:33:50] <av500> empty NAND is like a bomb
  • [15:33:56] <jeremiah_> aaahhhhh!
  • [15:34:16] <jeremiah_> *poof*
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  • [15:36:49] <jpsaman> _roger_: ping
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  • [15:44:44] <cwarrior> *tv
  • [15:44:53] <cwarrior> in boot env, dvimode=640x480MR-16@60, defaultdisplay=dvi, omapfb.mode=dvi${dvimode} <- what do i need to set it as to get it working with my tc
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  • [15:45:25] <woglinde> cwarrior might depens on the tv
  • [15:46:13] <aholler> why does the bb don't read edid? isn't that not connected or just no one has written the nedded sw?
  • [15:46:39] <woglinde> aholler you didnt notice a lot of edid stuff is shitty like acpi?
  • [15:46:42] <woglinde> tables
  • [15:46:59] <av500> aholler: patches welcome
  • [15:47:08] <aholler> so it is connected?
  • [15:47:11] <av500> yes
  • [15:47:47] <aholler> than we have identified something to do for those who are forking the std-serial ;)
  • [15:47:58] <av500> woglinde: easy, assume edid to fail and fallback to VGA instantly :)
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  • [15:48:54] <woglinde> av500 this works on a tv?
  • [15:49:00] <cwarrior> woglinde: if i have lower resolution setup, is it possible that i don't get any o/p
  • [15:49:08] <aholler> woglinde: it can't be worse than the actual solution. And it is really long time ago, since I've seen a monitor with wrong edid-information
  • [15:49:24] <woglinde> aholler we are talking about tv
  • [15:49:28] <woglinde> or not?
  • [15:49:33] <av500> woglinde: VGA is a *requiered* hdmi mode
  • [15:49:34] <aholler> and hdmi, not?
  • [15:49:48] * cwillu_at_work rolls into work
  • [15:50:04] <woglinde> cwarrior tv or monitor?
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  • [15:50:41] <aholler> maybe vga, but not that MR, I'm having a tv and moni both don't like that MR
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  • [15:50:56] <cwarrior> tv
  • [15:51:26] <cwarrior> what do you recommend
  • [15:51:38] <av500> is your TV vga only?
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  • [15:52:30] <woglinde> hm
  • [15:52:44] <woglinde> thats looks intressting from jknrider
  • [15:52:46] <woglinde> http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/scripts
  • [15:52:51] <woglinde> try hd720
  • [15:53:05] <woglinde> maybee you need some other options for omapfb
  • [15:53:07] <cwarrior> nope. has full hd
  • [15:53:11] <woglinde> too
  • [15:53:18] <woglinde> ?
  • [15:53:27] <mru> 1080p on beagle isn't a good idea
  • [15:53:30] <woglinde> a fullhd dont support 720?
  • [15:53:37] <av500> cwarrior: so why 640x480MR-16
  • [15:53:39] <mru> 720 is required
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  • [15:55:26] <cwarrior> so do you mean to say 640x480 would not be giving any o/p?
  • [15:55:43] <mru> no
  • [15:55:50] <mru> TVs are required to support 720p
  • [15:56:22] <av500> and vga...
  • [15:56:29] <av500> if they are "hmdi" certified
  • [15:56:52] <woglinde> are there such tv's?
  • [15:57:00] <av500> hdmi certified ones?
  • [15:57:09] <av500> all that have hdmi connector...
  • [15:57:10] <woglinde> not hdmo certified
  • [15:57:16] <mru> unfortunately most vendors seem to believe they are forbidden from supporting anything not on the list
  • [15:57:43] <av500> or that they need to do overscan :)
  • [15:57:57] <mru> many new models allow disabling that
  • [15:58:04] <av500> yes
  • [15:58:12] <cwarrior> oh alright. spent a lot of time figuring the error
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  • [16:00:11] <woglinde> hm?
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  • [16:27:04] <aholler> edid: http://markmail.org/message/jyoz5yahtdmxlw4e
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  • [16:28:28] <woglinde> aholler hm seems he never tried to get it upstream
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  • [16:29:34] <aholler> no wonder regarding all those changes in dss
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  • [16:30:01] <woglinde> but its funny anyway
  • [16:30:12] <woglinde> board-omap3beagle.c
  • [16:30:20] <woglinde> #ifdef CONFIG_I2C2_OMAP_BEAGLE
  • [16:30:56] <mru> what does the omap4 kernel use for hdmi modesetting?
  • [16:31:04] <mru> it seems to detect whatever is plugged in correctly
  • [16:31:13] <mru> even reconfigures on hotplug
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  • [16:31:32] <mru> of course the code involved is even uglier than that patch
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  • [16:33:02] <cwillu_at_work> mru, it's just edid afaik
  • [16:33:09] <cwillu_at_work> I remember seeing those patches bouncing around
  • [16:33:12] <woglinde> mru code is now nearly 2 years old
  • [16:33:22] <mru> point being that it exists and works
  • [16:33:24] <woglinde> so maybee it looks better now
  • [16:33:29] <mru> someone should clean it up of course
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  • [16:33:41] <mru> the omap4 kernel is a horrible mess
  • [16:33:52] <woglinde> hehe
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  • [16:34:10] <woglinde> give ti some lessons on doing kernelprogramming
  • [16:34:24] <mru> topfs2: so if you get an xm, will you do 100fps?
  • [16:35:13] <topfs2> Is it sgx530?
  • [16:35:19] <mru> woglinde: they need a lesson in aesthetics
  • [16:35:29] <aholler> there is an edid-patch for u-boot too
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  • [16:35:42] <av500> mru: +1
  • [16:36:05] <av500> aholler: please. np in uboot
  • [16:36:06] <mru> aholler: u-boot can't really do hotplug very well
  • [16:36:13] <av500> aholler: please, not in uboot
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  • [16:36:27] <av500> unless you add me a lil' scheduler and a vfs...
  • [16:36:43] <aholler> I'm not interested, just seen that.
  • [16:36:48] <mru> av500: and vm
  • [16:36:57] <cwillu_at_work> av500, ipsec! ipsec!
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  • [16:37:16] <topfs2> and mru I'm not entirely sure if I might not pass it on to another team member, perhaps the linux distro makers so they can do something easily dd
  • [16:37:23] <cwillu_at_work> aholler, there will _not_ be ipsec in u-boot, shame on you for suggesting it
  • [16:37:28] <topfs2> so its easier for the users
  • [16:37:37] <mru> users are overrated
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  • [16:38:27] <aholler> I would suggest v6, could be usefull for tftp
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  • [16:40:03] <av500> add least add SDL to uboot so we can run scummvm
  • [16:40:38] <aholler> add u-boot to scummvm would be better ;)
  • [16:41:00] <mru> do both
  • [16:41:20] <mru> then you could run scummvm in scummvm
  • [16:41:29] <mru> emulators all the way down
  • [16:41:53] <dm8tbr> yo dawg, we herd you like scummvm???
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  • [16:45:54] <aholler> dss(2) is a miracle. I never got it do display the whole bb-screen on my tv. there's always missing a part on the left.
  • [16:46:12] * mru blames aholler's tv
  • [16:46:38] <av500> aholler: could be overscan
  • [16:46:39] <aholler> no, all other devices like them ;)
  • [16:46:49] <woglinde> add libwine into uboot and run windows 3.1
  • [16:46:53] <aholler> I've turned it off
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  • [16:47:21] <aholler> and I see a black border left of the bb-screen, just like a window over the fb is wrong
  • [16:47:36] <woglinde> damn whats exitcode 256
  • [16:47:39] <woglinde> in bb su
  • [16:47:52] <av500> an 8 bit overflow?
  • [16:47:55] <cwarrior> hi, i am still unable to get the hdmi output
  • [16:47:57] <woglinde> aholler which kernel?
  • [16:48:09] <woglinde> cwarrior which kernel?
  • [16:48:23] <cwarrior> my dvimode settings are 1280X720MR-32@60
  • [16:48:28] <aholler> various, ubuntu 8.4, upto dss2 from linux-omap
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  • [16:48:38] <cwarrior> i am using angstrom demo image at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [16:48:41] <woglinde> o.O
  • [16:48:47] <aholler> I have this since I have the bb
  • [16:48:51] <woglinde> cwarrior hd720 isnt working?
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  • [16:49:13] <cwarrior> linux beagle board 2.6.32
  • [16:49:24] <woglinde> cwarrior yes its the psp kernel
  • [16:49:53] <cwarrior> woglinde, what is hd720, is it a defined variable?
  • [16:50:20] * cwillu_at_work blames ds2
  • [16:50:23] <woglinde> I guess a mode for omapfb which gets translated right inside the omafp modul
  • [16:50:55] <aholler> av500: yes looks an 8bit overflow
  • [16:51:07] <aholler> or whatever ;)
  • [16:51:38] <cwarrior> could you guide me further on it, i am using beagleboard for the first time
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  • [16:52:14] <woglinde> hm but looks like its only for beagle xm
  • [16:53:18] <cwarrior> woglinde, what all boot parameters can be looked into
  • [16:53:32] <woglinde> hm maybee this helps
  • [16:53:33] <woglinde> http://groups.google.com/group/0xlab-devel/browse_thread/thread/9f4a8c205dec711d/164398e5316e17e6%3C/span%3E
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  • [16:54:44] <cwarrior> i am not even getting the startup screen - the BBLogo on power on
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  • [16:54:56] <aholler> the logo is long gone
  • [16:55:03] <woglinde> should be green
  • [16:55:11] <woglinde> the whole screen
  • [16:55:15] <woglinde> I heard
  • [16:55:18] <woglinde> or orange
  • [16:55:21] <woglinde> or was organe xm
  • [16:55:36] <aholler> does the xm use a different kernel?
  • [16:55:37] <av500> cwarrior: get uptodate files
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  • [16:56:28] <woglinde> hihi
  • [16:56:29] <woglinde> http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=687a7700eabaa53b1187947b6f3b4f1662b9bbb6
  • [16:56:35] <woglinde> that was even for 2.6.28
  • [16:56:43] <cwarrior> uptodate files for? i download angstrom image from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [16:57:21] <woglinde> mom I will show you the other stuff from till for 800x480 screen
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  • [16:58:32] <woglinde> ~lart wikis
  • [16:58:45] <woglinde> http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch#Custom_video_settings
  • [17:01:13] <av500> cwarrior: still, where did you get that 640x480 setting from? all the bb demos I know start dvi with 1280x1024 or so
  • [17:02:07] <woglinde> some shitty blog entry?
  • [17:02:22] <cwarrior> i had this by default, on my beagleboard. i have c4
  • [17:02:36] <woglinde> hm
  • [17:03:07] <av500> cwarrior: please, download one of the complete demo images and dd it to a sdcard
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  • [17:03:15] <av500> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/sd-images/2gb/
  • [17:03:21] <cwarrior> I tried setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait omapdss.def_disp=dvi omapfb.mode=dvi:1024x768MR-24@60'
  • [17:03:22] <woglinde> av500 I am checking oe now
  • [17:03:40] <av500> cwarrior: Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.sd-image-2GiB.img.bz2
  • [17:03:47] <av500> from the above url
  • [17:03:54] <av500> unzip and dd onto your sdcard
  • [17:04:06] <woglinde> unzip?
  • [17:04:12] <woglinde> bunzip
  • [17:04:30] <av500> woglinde: well yes
  • [17:04:35] <cwarrior> i did Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2 today morning
  • [17:04:45] <av500> ok
  • [17:04:55] <av500> err no
  • [17:04:59] <av500> thats the rootfs
  • [17:05:05] <av500> please use the complete image
  • [17:05:13] <av500> with MLO/uboot/kernel/rootfs
  • [17:05:48] <cwarrior> i am still not getting the video out
  • [17:06:01] <av500> please use the complete image for a test
  • [17:06:44] <av500> if I was koen, I would hide all the contents on that demo page excepts the full image
  • [17:06:55] <woglinde> *g*
  • [17:06:59] <woglinde> okay time to go home
  • [17:07:46] <cwarrior> but i can login using the serial and all
  • [17:08:01] <av500> so?
  • [17:08:11] <woglinde> lol
  • [17:08:17] <woglinde> thats standard
  • [17:08:25] <av500> running a serial console is about the easiest task for any hardware
  • [17:08:31] <cwarrior> and can even play the movie, without output ofcourse, sound is fine as well
  • [17:08:57] <woglinde> I suggest buy a supprted tv
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  • [17:12:02] <cwarrior> av500: so do you mean that Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2 does not have the required drivers?
  • [17:12:14] <cwarrior> but i am not even getting the BB-Image on powering the board on, why so?
  • [17:12:28] <av500> because there is none
  • [17:12:36] <av500> it is long gone
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  • [17:14:41] <cwarrior> oh alright
  • [17:15:21] <cwarrior> Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.sd-image-2GiB.img.bz2 is the entire disk image?
  • [17:15:46] <cwarrior> av500: how many partitions should i make to use that
  • [17:15:51] <av500> none
  • [17:15:57] <av500> it will make them for you
  • [17:16:06] <av500> dd if=image of=/dev/sdX
  • [17:16:18] <av500> and bunzip2 image.bz2 before
  • [17:17:51] <cwarrior> oh cool. i wonder why it was kept inside the subdirectories
  • [17:18:36] <cwarrior> it is then a lot more easier to run the demo that way
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  • [17:26:05] <GatorBoz> Anyone have the Flyswatter JTAG configuration files for Beagleboard for use with OpenOCD?
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  • [17:34:21] <aholler> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/18/ventblockers_2/
  • [17:35:32] <aholler> I assume the bb has more power under the hood than all of these pcs ;)
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  • [19:49:08] <GatorBoz_> is anyone here using the Flyswatter for JTAG debugging?
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  • [19:53:23] <cwarrior> hi is it possible to use an hdmi - hdmi cable instead of a hdmi - dvi with beagle board?
  • [19:53:45] <koen> yes
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  • [19:54:21] <cwarrior> then i am unable to figure out why i can not get the hdmi output working
  • [19:55:12] <cwarrior> my boot parameter for dvimode is 1280x720MR-32@60
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  • [19:55:50] <cwarrior> and my tv works for this configuration for other devices such as my laptop
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  • [19:59:18] <woglinde> cwarriro you used your tv with dvi cable?
  • [19:59:24] <woglinde> hdmi-dvi
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  • [20:00:29] <cwarrior> hdmi to hdmi
  • [20:00:32] <_av500_> cwarrior: is this now the 2GB demo image?
  • [20:00:37] <cwarrior> yes
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  • [20:01:35] <woglinde> cwarrior and hd720 dont works too?
  • [20:02:35] <cwarrior> wodlinde, i don't understand what is meant by hd720, is it a pre-defined variable?
  • [20:02:46] <woglinde> *sigh* yes
  • [20:03:03] <woglinde> and I showed patch what is doing inside the kernel
  • [20:03:15] <woglinde> its a modeline shortcut
  • [20:03:46] <cwarrior> ok i'll try ang get back to you
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  • [20:05:06] <cwarrior> wodlinde, i am sorry if i am asking very fundamental doubts. i don't have any experience with this before. i am a high school student.
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  • [20:05:40] <_av500_> np
  • [20:10:33] <woglinde> cwarrior no problem, at least you have the ability to read
  • [20:10:44] <woglinde> reading is the key to most stuff
  • [20:11:33] <_av500_> reawhat?
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  • [20:17:59] <cwarrior> wooho, it worked :D
  • [20:18:13] <cwarrior> thanks woglinde and _av500_
  • [20:18:13] <woglinde> hd720?
  • [20:18:16] <woglinde> ????
  • [20:18:26] <woglinde> I think I told it 5 times
  • [20:18:28] <woglinde> or more
  • [20:18:32] <_av500_> 5.5
  • [20:19:01] <cwarrior> lol. can i use a usb mouse or a keyboard with it - plug and play?
  • [20:19:10] <woglinde> yes
  • [20:19:12] <_av500_> hub
  • [20:19:17] <woglinde> try a powered hub
  • [20:19:47] <cwarrior> i wouldn't need a hub if i am using only one of those, right?
  • [20:20:24] <cwarrior> it does not seem to work that way
  • [20:21:47] <_av500_> no
  • [20:21:55] <_av500_> u need hub for low speed devices
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  • [20:27:15] <cwarrior> I am connecting a usb mouse directly to the usb port. It is not detecting it.
  • [20:27:31] <cwarrior> when i say lsusb - i get the following error:
  • [20:27:41] <woglinde> hm
  • [20:27:48] <woglinde> dmesg is more intressting
  • [20:27:54] <mru> cwarrior: you need a hub
  • [20:27:59] <cwarrior> hub 1-0:1-0: Cannot enable port 2. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
  • [20:28:20] <woglinde> cwarrior seems I was wrong with you can read
  • [20:28:37] <woglinde> -> < _av500_> u need hub for low speed devices
  • [20:30:39] <_av500_> U NEED A HUB
  • [20:31:11] <cwillu_at_work> cwarrior, the usb on a beagle only speaks highspeed. In order to talk to a low or full speed device, you need a hub to translate, basically.
  • [20:31:48] <cwillu_at_work> also, make sure you're using a power supply with the beagle, and not just powering it over the otg port.
  • [20:32:07] <cwarrior> oh alright.
  • [20:32:27] <cwarrior> yeah i am using an external power supply
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  • [20:51:20] <aksh1> i am creating rootfs of ubuntu using rootstock command
  • [20:52:00] <aksh1> is there any way to copy required deb packages to local system so that next time while creating rootfs i can use local path
  • [20:52:12] <aksh1> instaed of ubuntu repository
  • [20:52:18] <_av500_> #ubuntu-arm
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  • [20:52:37] <_av500_> or _
  • [20:52:42] <cwillu_at_work> better yet, google
  • [20:56:49] <aksh1> there is option --copy-cache but it has already bugs saying it is not supported
  • [20:58:10] <_av500_> ask in some ubuntu place
  • [20:58:18] <_av500_> that will give you more help
  • [20:59:06] <aksh1> _av500_, thanks
  • [20:59:15] <aksh1> there i got answer as google
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  • [21:15:00] <dm8tbr> time to try the bombay saphire that was on sale in duty free
  • [21:15:05] <_av500_> forgin' what?
  • [21:15:14] <mru> patches
  • [21:15:30] <ds2> OTG doesn't need a hub ;)
  • [21:16:05] <mru> ds2: no, only a large dose of luck
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  • [21:16:54] <mru> whistling indoors brings bad luck
  • [21:17:22] <ds2> having dealt with MUSB before.. I don't think that matters :P
  • [21:17:39] <mru> but _why_ do you think you had to deal with it?
  • [21:17:51] <mru> because you whistled, of course!
  • [21:17:58] <ds2> :P
  • [21:25:16] <jonpry> what is musb?
  • [21:26:15] <jonpry> i am having some trouble figuring out how to write a driver for ulpi phy
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  • [21:27:05] <jfu> micro usb perhaps?
  • [21:27:17] <jfu> im just guessing. have no idea
  • [21:27:17] <mru> mental usb
  • [21:27:56] <jonpry> i just don't understand the architecture. like on msm, there is a driver for the ulpi. they call it msm_72kudc or some such thing, and you just put the phy specific stuff as a byte array in platform data
  • [21:28:04] <jonpry> but on this thing i just don't get it atm
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  • [21:31:34] <jonpry> mentor usb. but i have no idea what it is for. i think i need ehci
  • [21:34:52] <Ceriand|work> musb is the On-the-go USB controller, the EHCI controller is host only
  • [21:35:25] <jonpry> so the mentor core is something in omap?
  • [21:35:48] <Ceriand|work> yes, TI used an IP core from Mentor Graphics for the OTG controller
  • [21:36:19] <jonpry> ah. that makes sense
  • [21:36:33] <Ceriand|work> they used another IP core from someone else for the EHCI
  • [21:36:52] <jonpry> and those are both multiplexed on the same pins?
  • [21:36:58] <Ceriand|work> no
  • [21:37:10] <Ceriand|work> musb is on the hsusb0 pins
  • [21:37:18] <Ceriand|work> ehci/ohci is on the rest
  • [21:37:39] <jonpry> in that case musb it is. thanks it has been blowing my mind
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  • [21:38:04] <Ceriand|work> np, the USB stuff on the OMAP is frustrating as hell
  • [21:38:42] <jonpry> never a dull moment
  • [21:39:33] <Ceriand|work> If there's a problem with the musb driver, good luck on getting the docs for it
  • [21:39:51] <ds2> musb is the finest thing this planet has to offer
  • [21:39:53] <Ceriand|work> It took me over 4 months to get them
  • [21:40:28] <ds2> the docs are out there in non NDA form, hiding in plain sight
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  • [21:41:44] <jonpry> i don't suspect anything wrong, i just am using a different phy
  • [21:44:39] <Ceriand|work> jonpry: which one?
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  • [21:53:25] <jkridner> Jefro: Regarding Helma: I like it for several reasons: 1) Hosted on JAVA, so I could put it on Google Apps, the BeagleBoard, etc.
  • [21:53:49] <jkridner> 2) Coded with JavaScript, so it is the same language on the client side as the host.
  • [21:54:19] <jkridner> 3) Uses an XML database, allowing me to easily keep the entire site with git, no SQL.
  • [21:54:21] <jonpry> Ceriand|work: us3320
  • [21:54:27] <jonpry> *usb3320
  • [21:54:43] <Ceriand|work> smsc?
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  • [21:55:03] <jonpry> yeah
  • [21:55:10] <Ceriand|work> that's the same one I use
  • [21:55:14] <Ceriand|work> for musb
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  • [21:55:49] <jonpry> cool, care to share? on what board?
  • [21:56:02] <Ceriand|work> on a project here at work
  • [21:56:22] <jonpry> ic, so not opensource yet?
  • [21:56:50] <Ceriand|work> doesn't really use anything special kernel-wise
  • [21:57:29] <Ceriand|work> the nop phy driver works just fine
  • [21:57:52] <jonpry> nop phy driver?
  • [21:58:21] <Ceriand|work> CONFIG_NOP_USB_XCEIV
  • [21:59:37] <jonpry> i will look into that. you don't send any special ulpi commands for setting up the internal regulators?
  • [21:59:48] <Ceriand|work> nope
  • [22:00:15] <jonpry> well that sounds easy enough
  • [22:00:21] <jonpry> what about the vbus detector?
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  • [22:02:04] <Ceriand|work> we just use a 10k between the port and the phy since we only operate in device mode on that port
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  • [22:03:03] <jonpry> ah, yeah i have the shabang setup. otg power via boots converter and battery charging in device mode
  • [22:03:29] <jonpry> why musb not in drivers/usb/otg?
  • [22:05:42] <jonpry> *gadget
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  • [22:34:12] <Jefro> jkridner - sorry I missed this earlier, was called into a meeting
  • [22:34:25] <jkridner> np
  • [22:34:31] <Jefro> those are all good reasons
  • [22:34:47] <jkridner> I need a bit of arm-twisting to change the CMS...
  • [22:34:57] <jkridner> but, I am tired of managing it mostly alone.
  • [22:35:04] <jkridner> some folks do know how to edit it...
  • [22:35:22] <jkridner> I've considered adding WYSIWYG editing, which shouldn't be too tough.
  • [22:35:56] <Jefro> I'm very familiar with raw HTML, CSS, and I can fake ECMAscript if someone hums it
  • [22:36:28] <ds2> mmmm raw HTML
  • [22:36:29] <jkridner> hmm... hmmm... hmm...
  • [22:36:35] <ds2> food of champions ;)
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  • [22:36:56] <jkridner> Jefro: do you know the magic incantation to edit beagleboard.org?
  • [22:37:23] <jkridner> also, git patches are happily read/considered.
  • [22:37:28] <Jefro> jkridner nope - in fact I was just trying ot figure out how to log in. I have a beagleboard.org addr, but I think it logs me in using openid, which is a different addr.
  • [22:37:40] <Jefro> git might be the easiest method for updates
  • [22:38:05] <jkridner> http://www.beagleboard.org/gitweb
  • [22:38:37] <Jefro> aha - cool
  • [22:38:47] <jkridner> BeagleBot runs on the web server.
  • [22:39:06] <jkridner> er, not the machine, but the program.
  • [22:39:15] <Jefro> is that how it picks up beagle news for the running blog?
  • [22:39:29] <jkridner> no, that is Google Reader and a Yahoo Pipe...
  • [22:39:58] <Jefro> so it will break when Yahoo files bankruptcy? <duck>
  • [22:40:02] <jkridner> one of the tasks I keep planning to do is to automatically import that Yahoo Pipe into native articles to have them archived and to organize them.
  • [22:40:09] <jkridner> :)
  • [22:40:29] <jkridner> I think Yahoo is OK.
  • [22:41:15] <Jefro> they are outsourcing a bunch of their services that used to be native - I think they will be around for a while yet, but they are being trounced by google and bing
  • [22:41:22] <Jefro> for ad $
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  • [22:42:54] <jkridner> anyway, I need to run, but I'm open to suggestions. looking at the code should tell you how to edit it live (without git).
  • [22:43:05] <jkridner> I don't really like all the escape codes on the raw content. :(
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  • [22:43:13] <Jefro> very cool, thanks - I'm running too but will look
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  • [23:09:16] <_koen_> damn, tickets to SFO are expensive
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  • [23:13:52] <_av500_> how much?
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  • [23:58:42] <sakoman_> koen: when are you coming to SFO?
  • [23:59:06] <sakoman_> I'll be there on 12/1 & 2