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  • [00:11:22] <djlewis> ds2: gm
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  • [00:15:58] <ds2> @#$$!@#!@#!@
  • [00:16:35] <djlewis> ds2: hey man i was just saying hello..
  • [00:16:46] <ds2> djlewis: that was for ARM
  • [00:16:56] <ds2> PMU is used for 2 different meanings
  • [00:17:10] <djlewis> just teasing ya ;)
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  • [00:21:03] <Zenton> hello all
  • [00:21:12] <Zenton> I have a beagle board C4
  • [00:21:22] <Zenton> but I havent any dvi capable monitor.
  • [00:21:43] <Zenton> is the serial cable and terminal enough to validate the card?
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  • [00:24:18] <Zenton> could I use svideo and a tv instead the dvi monitor?
  • [00:24:23] <djlewis> sure, you can do a lot with the serial console
  • [00:24:50] <djlewis> just reserve DVI validation for later when you do. :)
  • [00:25:04] <Zenton> thanks djlewis
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  • [00:25:36] <djlewis> np
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  • [00:26:24] <djlewis> emeb1: i know what your thinking ;) but i'll use a console too hehee
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  • [00:31:01] <djlewis> Zenton: to answer you other question, I think ther eis a validation routine for the s-video out as well.
  • [00:38:30] <Zenton> I see, nevertheless I am setting now serial communication with cu and minicom, I receive nothing.
  • [00:39:02] <Zenton> does dvi monitor would show the same as the serial terminal would show?
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  • [00:51:59] <djlewis> no the serial console different than the DVI display in content
  • [00:55:12] <djlewis> Zenton_: 1st thing to get working is the serial console as it is a first management method.
  • [00:55:36] <djlewis> what are you getting on serial ?
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  • [01:06:30] <RobotGuy> Ubuntu images doen't come stock with serial console enabled. :(
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  • [01:08:37] <thurbad> ouch
  • [01:09:17] <RobotGuy> I had to start a getty on ttyS2 to get serial console for Ubuntu. /etc/init - create ttyS2.conf
  • [01:10:00] <thurbad> you can't just add it to /etc/inittab to start the serial console?
  • [01:10:31] <RobotGuy> There is no inittab. It's all in the /etc/init dir.
  • [01:10:39] <thurbad> ah
  • [01:10:58] <thurbad> is that a recent change?
  • [01:11:23] <RobotGuy> No idea. This is my first venture into ARM Ubuntu.
  • [01:11:41] <thurbad> I'm pretty sure that's where I used to change the defautl runlevel in ubuntu
  • [01:12:17] <RobotGuy> I've never paid attention to the inits except for what is in /etc/ini.d
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  • [01:12:45] <RobotGuy> /etc/init.d that is and of course the rc?.d dirs.
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  • [01:24:42] <rick_> it seems ubuntu use upstart to start the services.
  • [01:25:51] <thurbad> yeah that was a fairly recent change
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  • [01:39:41] <rick_> so a look in the /etc/event.d seems valuable
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  • [02:33:23] <chiques> Any good tutorials on how to begin to build an expansion board for my beagleboard and LG touch screen?
  • [02:34:01] <jacekowski> decide how do you want to interface stuff
  • [02:34:08] <jacekowski> find out if you need level converter
  • [02:34:12] <jacekowski> make a pcb
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  • [03:41:07] <Guest2314> just got my first install of ubuntu going on my board
  • [03:41:39] <Guest2314> whats the omap login?
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  • [03:44:11] <djlewis> Guest2314: wasnt it in the wiki you followed?
  • [03:44:34] <Guest2314> there are ones where you specify a user and pass
  • [03:44:53] <Guest2314> but i just ran the script
  • [03:45:48] <thurbad> where'd yo uget the script?
  • [03:46:07] <djlewis> I havent installed ubuntu in beagle but the wiki i looked had that info
  • [03:46:23] <Guest2314> was part of the package
  • [03:46:39] <thurbad> there's a couple different ubunto distros for beagle I think
  • [03:46:46] <djlewis> yep
  • [03:46:49] <thurbad> *ubuntu
  • [03:46:53] <Guest2314> yeah did the demo image
  • [03:46:57] <Guest2314> maverick 10.10
  • [03:47:05] <Guest2314> from the elinux wiki
  • [03:48:17] <Guest2314> http://pastebin.com/h2MFRj89
  • [03:48:25] <Guest2314> is what i get in the output
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  • [03:49:32] <thurbad> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Maverick_10.10
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  • [03:49:51] <thurbad> -> Default user: ubuntu pass: temppwd
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  • [03:50:03] <djlewis> oh you gave it away.
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  • [03:51:06] <nitin_> how to display graphics at same time on OMAP3530
  • [03:51:14] <nitin_> how to configure the DSS for that
  • [03:51:21] <nitin_> at same time on TV and VGA
  • [03:51:25] <thurbad> yeah it was actually pretty easy to find if you read the wiki entry
  • [03:51:38] <djlewis> but he didnt
  • [03:51:55] <thurbad> probably not
  • [03:52:18] <nitin_> I will surely check that
  • [03:52:34] <djlewis> nitin_: not you
  • [03:52:44] <nitin_> ok
  • [03:52:56] <thurbad> not sure about simultaneous dvi and svideo output
  • [03:52:57] <djlewis> nitin_: your question came up in the past couple of weeks.
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  • [03:53:11] <djlewis> But i dont recall the results
  • [03:53:36] <nitin_> I am showing Graphics and Video in Graphics and Video overlays respectively
  • [03:54:14] <nitin_> and in such case either want to support both OR atleast want to switch from one to another, without having to reboot the device
  • [03:54:14] <thurbad> which OS are you using for starters
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  • [03:55:29] <nitin_> thurbad: I am running linux kernel 2.6.32 taken from OMAP git tree
  • [03:55:54] <nitin_> Also on another setup I am running Android Froyo
  • [03:55:57] <thurbad> are you running angstrom, android, ubuntu?
  • [03:56:30] <nitin_> At present Android Froyo
  • [03:56:49] <nitin_> Have a OMAP 3503 based board, also have EVM rev D
  • [04:00:19] <thurbad> 3503?
  • [04:00:31] <nitin_> yes
  • [04:00:33] <nitin_> OK
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  • [04:00:54] <nitin_> May be you can suggest be assuming I am using EVM rev D
  • [04:01:44] <nitin_> djlewis: I am not able to get , how to search in Beagle IRC logs
  • [04:02:30] <djlewis> don't no except for google
  • [04:03:08] <nitin_> I will do that, I meant, specific search in #beagle IRS
  • [04:03:11] <nitin_> IRC
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  • [04:04:58] <thurbad> I haven't tried his, but http://e2e.ti.com/support/dsp/omap_applications_processors/f/447/t/34005.aspx suggests that you can do it by allocating memory to multiple frame buffers
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  • [04:08:23] <nitin_>
  • [04:08:46] <nitin_> I have one more problem to discuss regarrding CVBS, which I observe on OMAP3 EVM also
  • [04:08:50] <hitlin37> nitin for s-video there r many post..google it
  • [04:09:12] <nitin_> OK
  • [04:09:15] <nitin_> I will do it
  • [04:10:07] <nitin_> When I display any Graphics in S-Video or CVBS, the graphics is getting cut from both left and right sides of the TV screen
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  • [04:10:32] <nitin_> this happens on OMAP3 EVM with the 2.6.32 kernel taken from OMAP linux tree
  • [04:10:56] <nitin_> But with VGA, no problems like this
  • [04:11:13] <nitin_> The graphics fits, perfectly in monitor viewable area
  • [04:13:27] <hitlin37> try changing resolution..like some low resolution
  • [04:13:39] <djlewis> a tv is like 512x244
  • [04:14:00] <djlewis> or 512x382
  • [04:14:06] <djlewis> its been a long time
  • [04:14:35] <nitin_> I am choosing tv:ntsc in kernel commandline
  • [04:14:52] <nitin_> which means it will use resolution of 720x482 as per the code in file venc.c
  • [04:16:39] <hitlin37> what about 640*480
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  • [04:18:12] <nitin_> I did not try that
  • [04:18:31] <nitin_> 1024 x 768 in VGA is working fine
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  • [04:23:34] <thurbad> this has some good info on setting up the fb bootargs for dss2... I asssume you're dss2 http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/openwrt-xburst/source/tree/40c0f7f2fc1005f86ee5b59d04d95ecb55cd8bae/target/linux/omap35xx/patches-2.6.32/001-DSS2.patch
  • [04:27:21] <nitin_> Ya
  • [04:29:15] <nitin_> I am using 2.6.32 which has DSS2 driver
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  • [04:36:59] <nitin_> Thnks for the inputs
  • [04:37:15] <nitin_> About the display not being proper in CVBS mode, do you have any suggessiosns
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  • [04:56:46] <thurbad> I don't know what cvbs mode even is
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  • [05:31:38] <nani_> hi i want to submit the patches for my new board .. How i can submit or register my new board into open embedded
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  • [05:41:34] <ds2> Hmmmmm
  • [05:44:44] <jkridner> nani_: hi. other than sakoman_ and denix, I don't see any of the OE regulars like koen or eFfeM.
  • [05:45:14] <jkridner> I'd ask the same question in #oe.
  • [05:45:32] * jkridner looks at the repo to see what the normal pattern is to add a new board.
  • [05:46:00] <sakoman_> nani_: submit your patch to the oe developers mailing list
  • [05:49:06] <nitin_> how to change input_size of an overlay
  • [05:51:47] <jkridner> nani_: I find researching the patch history on a file that you know was modified for a task to be very interesting to learn how to do a task, such as http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/log/conf/machine/overo.conf
  • [05:52:26] <jkridner> http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=8fd4b944c73a24d6422abd42000b22ea8befe619 is a patch to add a board support.
  • [05:57:17] <nani_> thank u it is very helpful
  • [06:06:09] <ds2> what is the concept of a board in OE?
  • [06:11:19] <ds2> or is this another name of for an OE machine?
  • [06:19:21] <_av500_> .
  • [06:22:21] <sakoman_> ds2: OE call boards machines
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  • [06:26:46] <ds2> ah okay
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  • [06:33:23] <RobotGuy> What is the name of the module for the ethernet on a Beagle-xM?
  • [06:33:33] <RobotGuy> The driver module.
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  • [06:52:29] <gadiyar> smsc95xx
  • [06:52:40] <gadiyar> drivers/net/usb/smsc95xx.c is the driver
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  • [08:27:10] <mru> friday!
  • [08:28:26] <av500> +1
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  • [08:35:11] <mru> +beer
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  • [09:36:04] <orkuntomruk> hi
  • [09:36:16] <orkuntomruk> i have a question about opencv
  • [09:36:39] <orkuntomruk> ?? am trying compile opencv.2.0 with my cross-compiler
  • [09:36:49] <orkuntomruk> but i have a error
  • [09:37:13] <orkuntomruk> is there anyone doing it successfully
  • [09:39:14] <mru> define success :-)
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  • [09:58:58] <orkuntomruk> i get error when i send make command
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  • [09:59:30] <orkuntomruk> i cnanc create makefile with ./configure
  • [10:00:04] <orkuntomruk> then when making after some time it give error.
  • [10:00:42] <av500> orkuntomruk: opencv is already supported in oe
  • [10:01:45] <orkuntomruk> http://pastebin.com/CLJCBDyV
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  • [10:02:05] <orkuntomruk> my configure
  • [10:02:49] <av500> and?
  • [10:03:16] <av500> and what is the sudo for??
  • [10:03:19] <av500> ?
  • [10:03:56] <orkuntomruk> ?
  • [10:04:07] <av500> what is the sudo for?
  • [10:04:14] <av500> because you can?
  • [10:04:28] <orkuntomruk> okey
  • [10:04:38] <orkuntomruk> is it change my output
  • [10:04:41] <orkuntomruk> ?
  • [10:04:44] <orkuntomruk> i think no
  • [10:07:17] <orkuntomruk> is there any package or library unsupported by arm in opencv
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  • [10:42:05] <nitin_> is it practically possible to use "TV" and "lcd" both , if I am using graphics as well as video
  • [10:42:26] <nitin_> I mean both together
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  • [10:55:30] <DigiSAS> mornin
  • [10:56:07] <av500> gm
  • [10:56:15] <av500> nitin_: yes
  • [10:56:25] <av500> you can use lcd and tv at the same time
  • [10:56:35] <av500> read DSS docs
  • [10:56:40] <mru> I wouldn't recommend it though
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  • [11:03:05] <cwillu_at_work> that's odd. I've got two ssh connections into a beagle via zippy2. The console is locked up, the second ssh session is locked up, but the top I had running in the first ssh is still updating fine, except that it doesn't respond to keyboard input
  • [11:03:24] <cwillu_at_work> http://pastie.org/1292290
  • [11:03:45] <cwillu_at_work> 5 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 64.7 0.0 180:49.14 events/0 is notable
  • [11:04:31] <mru> so input is dead, output working
  • [11:05:04] <cwillu_at_work> I would expect ssh to drop the connection at some point
  • [11:05:07] <cwillu_at_work> sshd rather
  • [11:05:09] <mru> all those processes in D state look worrying
  • [11:05:14] <cwillu_at_work> yep
  • [11:06:06] <mru> usually that's a sign some driver has locked up
  • [11:06:29] <mru> where is your filesystem?
  • [11:06:32] <mru> sd?
  • [11:06:35] <cwillu_at_work> sd
  • [11:06:37] <cwillu_at_work> yep
  • [11:07:01] <mru> also note 99.7%sy
  • [11:07:06] <cwillu_at_work> yep
  • [11:07:17] <mru> definitely a driver lockup of some kind
  • [11:07:26] <cwillu_at_work> by default, I suspect ks8851 :p
  • [11:07:28] <DigiSAS> cwillu: what was your problem with garbage on terminal? Everex cable?
  • [11:07:42] <cwillu_at_work> DigiSAS, I had no problems with garbage on serial terminal
  • [11:08:02] <cwillu_at_work> I did reply to somebody having troubles with garbage where the login prompt should be though
  • [11:08:03] <DigiSAS> cwillu: ok soz
  • [11:08:06] <cwillu_at_work> that was a couple days ago
  • [11:08:26] <DigiSAS> cwillu: mistaken identity, you have a familiar face
  • [11:08:31] <DigiSAS> :p
  • [11:08:51] <cwillu_at_work> appears top just died
  • [11:09:49] <mru> this looks like something in path to your filesystem died
  • [11:10:01] <cwillu_at_work> rebooting, maybe something made it to a log
  • [11:10:29] <mru> anything that's cached keeps working
  • [11:10:44] <mru> as soon as a page has to be loaded from "disk", that process hangs
  • [11:10:55] <mru> could be some other cause too of course
  • [11:11:58] <cwillu_at_work> okay, new information
  • [11:12:40] <cwillu_at_work> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/290360/
  • [11:12:54] <cwillu_at_work> first two reboots via button failed after "mmc1 is available"
  • [11:13:06] <cwillu_at_work> at which point I pulled the power cord and reconnected
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  • [11:13:09] <cwillu_at_work> then it booted fine
  • [11:13:10] <mru> remove and reinsert the card
  • [11:13:18] <mru> hmm
  • [11:13:21] <cwillu_at_work> actually
  • [11:13:30] <cwillu_at_work> I did remove and insert the card at the same time
  • [11:13:50] <cwillu_at_work> I doubt it had worked its way loose, my desk has been undisturbed for a couple days
  • [11:13:55] <cwillu_at_work> (stat holiday yesterday)
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  • [11:14:21] <mru> it's possible something the mmc interface got stuck across a soft reset
  • [11:14:56] <cwillu_at_work> last message in /var/log/kern.log was 6 hours ago
  • [11:15:22] <mru> problems like this rarely make it into logs
  • [11:15:57] <cwillu_at_work> incidently: do you know how to get kmsg sent to a serial terminal, in a way that doesn't require a console= line on the kernel boot?
  • [11:16:17] <mru> what's wrong with providing a console line?
  • [11:16:53] <cwillu_at_work> mru, I'm using a different one, and multiple console lines is broken'ish
  • [11:17:18] <mru> then one way would be to fix it
  • [11:17:22] <cwillu_at_work> I like my instrumentation to change as little as possible when I trip over a problem :p
  • [11:17:30] <cwillu_at_work> mru, it's known to be broken in the kernel
  • [11:17:42] <av500> ? what is broken=
  • [11:17:44] <av500> ?
  • [11:18:06] <cwillu_at_work> av500, multiple console= entries has some weird behaviour; I can't remember the details, just that I tripped over it and was told that a few months ago
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  • [11:43:18] <cwillu_at_work> maybe rsyslog will do something useful
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  • [11:55:44] <evotion> hey guys
  • [11:56:04] <evotion> i have some problems compiling the 2.6.34.7 linux kernel
  • [11:56:07] <RobotGuy> There seems to be some issues with Ubuntu images built using rootstock and loading modules. I can't load any modules om this croutons.
  • [11:56:35] <RobotGuy> I have problems compiling ANY kernel under Ubuntu.
  • [11:57:53] <evotion> arch/arm/mach-omap2/built-in.o: In function `omap2_gp_timer_set_mode': usb-ehci.c:(.text+0xc28): undefined reference to `omap_dm_timer_stop' usb-ehci.c:(.text+0xc38): undefined reference to `omap_dm_timer_get_fclk' usb-ehci.c:(.text+0xc64): undefined reference to `omap_dm_timer_set_load_start'
  • [11:57:58] <evotion> is my error message
  • [11:58:03] <evotion> well i am using ubuntu
  • [11:58:15] <evotion> you mean that could be the problem?
  • [11:59:32] <rick_> Hi,all: I configured uboot with USB_TTY enabled and can see the /dev/ttyACM0 on my host, kermit can connect to /dev/ttyACM0 after I set the stdin, stdout, stderr to usbtty. console operation behaves well but the kermit transfer never start.
  • [11:59:40] <RobotGuy> I'm saying there are apparently issues with Ubuntu, loading modules, compiling kernels, etc. Could be the compiler for kernels in this case. No idea about loading modules.
  • [12:00:05] <rick_> I can issue the loadb command but can't send file with kermit or ukermit(omap3-u-boot-utils)
  • [12:06:56] <DigiSAS> rick_: are you using ukermit for recovering NAND?
  • [12:07:29] <DigiSAS> with pserial?
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  • [12:11:39] <DigiSAS> rick: ukermit waits for ASIC ID which i believe is sent on boot
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  • [12:13:20] <rick_> DigiSAS, no, I am trying to download in the 2nd stage bootloader.
  • [12:13:33] <rick_> I use kermit mainly
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  • [12:14:07] <rick_> with the kermitrc mentioned here: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/40b0161a4d3d64ef
  • [12:14:37] <rick_> um, I think I can't use ukermit since it waits for the ASIC_ID
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  • [12:26:14] <zakri> Hi. Short question. It is possible to set DVI output on beagleboard C4 Full HD resolution 1920x1080??
  • [12:26:29] <av500> yes, but only with 24fps or so
  • [12:26:37] <av500> not all monitors accept it
  • [12:26:47] <mru> 30fps should work too
  • [12:26:49] <mru> same pixel clock
  • [12:27:18] <mru> and you'll have trouble filling it with anything at a decent rate
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  • [12:28:14] <av500> static signage applications should be fine :)
  • [12:28:33] <mru> good old-fashioned paint works fine for those too
  • [12:28:45] <mru> for the truly static ones
  • [12:29:51] <DigiSAS> mru sounds like one of our customers
  • [12:30:20] <av500> mru: digital paint (tm)
  • [12:31:13] <zakri> I must ask what they want to show
  • [12:31:28] <av500> slideshow yes, video no
  • [12:31:41] <av500> and as said, you have to make sure your display device likes it
  • [12:31:44] <zakri> but I think that will be mowies
  • [12:31:55] <av500> nogo then
  • [12:32:00] <jkridner> zakri: what mru is pointing out is that if you crank up the refresh rate too much, you can starve the processor for memory bandwidth.
  • [12:32:39] <mru> memory bandwidth is more or less same at 1080p30 and 720p60
  • [12:33:02] <mru> the problem is that you have twice as many pixels to draw
  • [12:33:13] <DigiSAS> yeah theres lots signage that doesnt show movies, kiosks etc
  • [12:33:22] <jkridner> if you are trying to fill the whole screen.
  • [12:33:30] <mru> as movies would
  • [12:33:48] <mru> or transition effects in a slideshow
  • [12:35:25] <av500> transition effects you could get away with with using a lot of mem
  • [12:35:59] <mru> prerender?
  • [12:36:12] <av500> predecode
  • [12:36:19] <av500> so yes
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  • [12:36:55] <mru> yeah, an effect lasting say half a second every 5 seconds you might manage
  • [12:37:00] <mru> if you can spare the ram
  • [12:37:50] <zakri> they want in console mode show some movies useing mplayer or some photos. Movies can be in 1080 resolution or smaller
  • [12:38:12] <zakri> I will try show something and see how it works.
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  • [12:38:40] <av500> zakri: 1080 movies no way
  • [12:38:44] <DigiSAS> movies @ 1080p will not work
  • [12:41:28] <zakri> on beagle XM should be better
  • [12:41:30] <zakri> ?
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  • [12:45:45] <av500> no
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  • [12:46:36] <mru> 7fps is better than 5fps, no?
  • [12:46:59] <DigiSAS> :)
  • [12:47:17] <zakri> ok
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  • [13:02:33] <djlewis> mru: I agree. Friday! Beer!
  • [13:02:59] * dm8tbr checks, oooh it's already beer-o-clock!
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  • [13:03:43] <djlewis> but first things first, I gotta down these 6 cups of coffee first :)
  • [13:04:19] <mru> djlewis: let me help you share those with the keyboard
  • [13:04:32] <av500> 5 to go
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  • [13:05:33] <djlewis> fortunately for me I was away from the keyboard at the time :)
  • [13:06:36] * cwillu_at_work starts troubleshooting a data corruption bug in his database
  • [13:06:45] <cwillu_at_work> should be a fun weekend :)
  • [13:06:51] <djlewis> now that sounds like real fun ...
  • [13:07:14] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis, I wrotes it myself!
  • [13:07:15] <mru> all your base are belong to bug
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  • [13:07:57] <cwillu_at_work> and the only information I have on it is the scratching I made on an index card when a customer called while I was sleeping
  • [13:08:36] <djlewis> oh, the fun just never ends then ;)
  • [13:09:37] <cwillu_at_work> 02209
  • [13:09:39] <cwillu_at_work> wonder what that means
  • [13:09:47] <cwillu_at_work> 02211, 02322
  • [13:09:52] <cwillu_at_work> I thought I should know those numbers
  • [13:09:56] <cwillu_at_work> why did I think that?
  • [13:10:02] * cwillu_at_work greps
  • [13:10:17] <av500> cwillu_at_work: it means "take the medication in this order..."
  • [13:10:29] <cwillu_at_work> ah, ticket number
  • [13:10:45] <djlewis> hehee
  • [13:11:48] <av500> 2k bugs, not bad :)
  • [13:11:59] <djlewis> + 322
  • [13:12:05] <cwillu_at_work> av500, no, paper ticket that was printed :p
  • [13:13:29] * jkridner|work seems to have missed out on mru's reference http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us
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  • [13:22:17] <djlewis> one i never would have seen
  • [13:24:58] <cwillu_at_work> jkridner|work, wha? how? why?
  • [13:25:18] <cwillu_at_work> you accidentlied the whole meme :(
  • [13:25:28] <jkridner> yeah, I don't know how....
  • [13:25:36] <jkridner> must have been my broken-english filter.
  • [13:26:22] <jkridner> 2000 was post my daily Usenet usage days.
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  • [14:01:11] <edujo> I have a devkit8000 and I a trying to install debian. I am able to boot from the SD card and launch the installer, but it seems to fail to detect my ethernet port
  • [14:01:52] <edujo> The eth chip is a davicom IC and the dmesg shows a 'usb0'
  • [14:02:12] <edujo> is there any documentation and/or hint that might help me?
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  • [14:02:24] <rcn-ee> usb0 is more then likely your usb-otg adapter..
  • [14:02:52] <rcn-ee> (opps minus adapter, it's the 'gadget' driver)
  • [14:03:38] <edujo> sorry I am not used to this gadget driver.
  • [14:04:05] <rcn-ee> there should be an eth0 for your davcom... which debian install? lenny or squeeze?
  • [14:04:16] <edujo> I think the solution is to compile my kernel and/or insert the eth module on the initrd.. is there any easier/faster option? :)
  • [14:04:22] <kblin> hey rcn-ee, long time no read :)
  • [14:04:43] <edujo> lenny
  • [14:04:52] <rcn-ee> hey kblin how's things?
  • [14:05:27] <rcn-ee> edujo, if your using my 2.6.29 on elinux to install it, it's really too old for lots of those usb ether adapters, my squeeze instructions seem to work, just ignore the 'security' repo issue at the end..
  • [14:06:04] <edujo> ah ok, thanks! I wll try it now :)
  • [14:06:26] <kblin> rcn-ee: not very lucky with my embedded hardware recently. I just found out that most of the recent hawkboard batch fail to boot a linux kernel from uboot, and guess what, I've got one of those
  • [14:06:42] <kblin> the dockstar is working great, though
  • [14:07:12] <rcn-ee> i was reading that too.. big opps.. ;) how's the dockstar for stability under high load?
  • [14:07:56] <kblin> rcn-ee: so far it's outperforming the sheeva, looks cuter, and the power supply hasn't burnt out yet
  • [14:08:17] <av500> dockstart and sheeva should be same hw, no?
  • [14:08:30] <rcn-ee> i believe so...
  • [14:08:35] <kblin> av500: yeah, pretty much
  • [14:08:53] <kblin> av500: less ram in the dockstar, but also seems to run a bit cooler
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  • [14:09:26] <av500> coolness is in the fingertip of the beholder
  • [14:09:32] <kblin> the iperf results have been pretty consisten, though
  • [14:09:45] <kblin> av500: no scientific measurement
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  • [14:11:57] <kblin> to be fair, they're running different systems, with different kernel versions, so that might factor into the number as well
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  • [14:28:50] <ksinkar> is there any wiki which explains the ramfs filesystem wrt to the u boot and and any other operating system we load onto it
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  • [16:28:36] <jkridner> you get paid for having an ego? nice.
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  • [16:30:47] <djlewis_> many do but perhaps that was not the best choice of word. alter ego? different persona, the other don, and so on :)
  • [16:31:58] <mru> black hat
  • [16:32:37] <djlewis_> blue collar
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  • [17:21:09] <ddomke> how much do you guys use all the USB ports on beagle?
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  • [17:21:59] <jkridner> hi ddomke
  • [17:22:08] <ddomke> hey, jkridner
  • [17:22:46] <jkridner> i got you confused with ddompe the other day, but it was good hearing from him. planning on seeing him in Costa Rica in 2011.
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  • [17:23:22] <jkridner> you thinking about making a board for open source developers with fewer USB ports?
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  • [17:23:26] <ddompe> jkridner: did I miss something you want to tell me?
  • [17:23:31] <ddompe> :)
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  • [17:23:59] <jkridner> only that your name is confusingly close to ddomke. :)
  • [17:24:07] <ddompe> indeeed
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  • [17:24:30] <jkridner> I need to figure out where I'll be staying so I can estimate my travel budget.
  • [17:25:12] <jkridner> I'm looking forward to seeing what sort of FOSS enthusiasm there is in Costa Rica.
  • [17:25:34] <ddomke> possibly; I'm an engineer here at TI, and I'm working on a board for an upcoming Cortex A-8 processor for open source developers.
  • [17:26:05] <ddomke> I'm wondering if all the USB ports are used and needed; or if most people use only one or two of them.?
  • [17:26:52] <mru> people can always use hubs
  • [17:26:59] <mru> but it's nice to not have to
  • [17:27:31] <mru> and it's nice to have at least one spare after keyboard and mouse have taken their share
  • [17:27:54] <thurbad> and internet...
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  • [17:28:06] <mru> xm has that separately
  • [17:28:19] <thurbad> wireless?
  • [17:28:24] <mru> no
  • [17:28:29] <mru> but you didn't say that
  • [17:28:36] <thurbad> lol
  • [17:28:44] <thurbad> true
  • [17:28:50] <mru> panda does
  • [17:30:15] <ddomke> assuming ethernet's there also; are 2 USB ports enough? (can use ext hub if you want more); or is it really important to have 3 or 4 ports?
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  • [17:31:03] <jkridner> ddomke: I would be very intrigued so have something more like the Gumstix Overo and to make the hub an expansion board option, but to have a USB connector on the processor board for lowest entry cost.
  • [17:31:40] <jkridner> not exactly the bring-your-own-off-the-shelf strategy of the BeagleBoard, unless you assume everyone buys an expansion board.
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  • [17:32:25] * jkridner hates middle-of-the-road compromises.
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  • [17:33:02] <jkridner> I think you showed up during happy hour in the EU. _av500_ hasn't chimed in. :)
  • [17:33:37] <ddomke> good point; it really comes to price; are the extra 3rd and 4th USB ports worth the extra $$$ for the baseboard?
  • [17:35:02] <jkridner> well, I'd have the option of using a hub with a single port board, perhaps a cheaper baseboard with only two ports? or a full blown baseboard.
  • [17:35:29] <jkridner> I can't imagine the cost between 2 and 4 ports being significant, unless you have to add a controller/hub for #3 and #4.
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  • [17:36:34] <jkridner> and if that is the case, then putting that onto a baseboard would save cost on the processor board, assuming the interconnect cost is minimal.
  • [17:37:25] <djlewis_> perhaps use a usb for console and extend the spare serial to the header?
  • [17:37:53] <ddomke> yes; it's the addition of the on board hub for #3/#4 that has me asking the question
  • [17:37:55] <djlewis_> we are having to use usb anyway with these new computers
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  • [17:44:11] <jkridner> I'd love to see a population option with a bit of hand soldering to add a USB-to-serial device for JTAG and serial. I guess that might have limited appeal, but it isn't fundamentally required for development and I'm excited by the idea of "cheap".
  • [17:44:47] <mru> I hate boards that don't have rs232
  • [17:45:07] <mru> going through usb makes it nasty too
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  • [17:47:57] <ddomke> so the simplicity of rs232 still makes it a needed port; i guess
  • [17:48:45] <jkridner> give me my USB-to-serial population option and I'd be happy too. :)
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  • [17:49:17] <mru> a low-level 4-pin header would be fine with me
  • [17:49:26] <mru> I have level shifters...
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  • [17:50:12] <mru> usb is just asking for trouble
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  • [17:53:05] <Jefro> jkridner good morning!
  • [17:53:11] <jkridner> hi Jefro!
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  • [17:54:40] <Jefro> had a good time hanging out with Gerald, katierh, ds2, philip, and a few others at ARM TechCon
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  • [17:55:58] <jkridner> cool! I saw Gerald in one of those EE Times videos of the show.
  • [17:56:10] <jkridner> how did his presentation go?
  • [17:57:04] <Jefro> I only caught the latter 1/3 of it, but it was excellent & the room was full, standing room only
  • [17:57:19] <Jefro> and more than one person came back later hoping there would be another board giveaway :)
  • [17:57:36] <jkridner> :)
  • [18:00:58] <djlewis_> mru: so many people wont have a real serial port option.
  • [18:01:09] <djlewis_> I too prefer basic rs-232
  • [18:01:56] * djlewis_ keeps older systems and pci serial boards cause of it
  • [18:01:58] <jkridner> it seems to often be the theme that mru isn't the typical user.... the challenge is that he's the user TI wants most thanks to his NEON hacking skills.
  • [18:03:41] <ds2> no on board usb hub, please!
  • [18:04:02] <ds2> ideally, no on board RS-232 either (UART + a UART to RS-232 converter on the cable)
  • [18:04:11] <Jefro> ds2 why? power issues?
  • [18:04:20] <ds2> that's one of them
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  • [18:04:53] <ds2> cut down unnecessary crap
  • [18:05:02] <jkridner> if there was a tested bootloader and USBnet over USB, then serial would only be needed when kernel hacking.
  • [18:05:27] <ds2> not saying no serial port at all, just saying move the line transceivers onto the cable
  • [18:05:41] <jkridner> is there an off-the-shelf cable for that?
  • [18:05:43] <ds2> it would also give people more options
  • [18:05:57] <ds2> yes, there are even off the shelf UART to USB cables
  • [18:06:05] <ds2> FTDI has one
  • [18:06:14] <Jefro> comments from power users like ds2 and mru make me wonder if someday it might be valuable to have more than one spin of the board - one like the xM with tons of pluggable sockets for newbies & educational folks, and one much more bare for power users & systems integrators
  • [18:06:43] <jkridner> sounds like Gumstix.
  • [18:06:46] <ds2> this way if someone wants to use that port for other things, they don't have to throw in yet another line transceiver to convert it back to cmos
  • [18:07:31] <ds2> if the clothing designers followed your reasoning, all pants would have built in diapers
  • [18:07:55] <ds2> newbies do grow and become knowing users... let them grow with it, not hinder and hold them back with a toy board
  • [18:08:08] <_av500_> Jefro: mru wants a board that powers from usb only and fits into pci-e slot on his laptop :)
  • [18:08:26] <_av500_> an omap3 coproc
  • [18:08:46] <_av500_> overo almost fits
  • [18:09:15] <ds2> didn't someone make something like that?
  • [18:09:28] <ds2> nevermind, that wasn't pcie
  • [18:10:00] <_av500_> pcie card has usb2 option so that would fit nicely
  • [18:10:14] <ds2> prehaps a better example is training wheels
  • [18:10:15] <jkridner> you mean that DSP board that plugged with the memory? :) (I imagine not too many people here ever saw that thing)
  • [18:12:23] <ds2> no
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  • [18:12:43] <ds2> but I do have a pile of DSP boards with connectors that look like SO-DIMM connectors
  • [18:13:08] <ds2> most of them are even in the antistatic bags too
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  • [18:16:12] <Jefro> _av500_ I remember seeing a COM with an OMAP3 just the other day... danged if I can find it though
  • [18:16:32] <Jefro> I think it was PCI-e
  • [18:17:00] <djlewis_> there is a laptop pci-e and a mini pci-e
  • [18:17:23] <Jefro> this one was a COM - looked just like a standard pci board
  • [18:18:11] * djlewis_ wants both the toy and the low level get down and dirty solution
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  • [18:25:43] <jkridner> how's it go? "Make easy things easy and hard things possible?"
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  • [18:26:24] * jkridner spent a lot of time with Perl.
  • [18:26:57] <djlewis_> but if offered one option, i go with down and dirty. I agree with mru in let newbies learn from it.
  • [18:28:30] <ddomke> for that matter; a header is enough then for the UART signals right?
  • [18:30:05] <djlewis_> well, those 1.8V level translators can be a beach. 3.3v would be cool
  • [18:31:48] <djlewis_> a person can easily find serial convertors to 3.3V
  • [18:32:01] <jkridner> ddomke: I think the assertion though is that there is a reasonable solution to connect to the serial port that is largely independent of other things, so it should likely be a different header than what might have other signals.
  • [18:32:25] <jkridner> and there should be some kind of cable that can be acquired, either serial or USB.
  • [18:32:58] <ddomke> makes sense.
  • [18:33:31] <ddomke> guys, I need to leave for a bit. I'll be back to discuss more later.
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  • [18:38:20] <mru> some kind of direct uart access, whether rs232 level or not, is essential
  • [18:38:31] <mru> usb always manages to screw up at a bad time
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  • [18:39:34] <mru> take the sheevaplug for example
  • [18:39:48] <mru> the ftdi there has a habit of resetting whenever the board is reset
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  • [18:40:02] <mru> killing the terminal emulator on the pc
  • [18:40:22] <mru> so you lose the first bit of output from the board
  • [18:40:39] * cwillu_at_work sighs
  • [18:40:53] <cwillu_at_work> came in from lunch, take my jacket off, and go to smack the reset button on a beagle
  • [18:41:06] <cwillu_at_work> gzzzt
  • [18:41:22] <cwillu_at_work> electricity shoots from my fingertip
  • [18:41:23] <djlewis_> fry it with static
  • [18:41:27] <djlewis_> oooh
  • [18:41:27] <cwillu_at_work> lets see if it boots :p
  • [18:41:40] <djlewis_> perhaps you went to gnd :)
  • [18:41:52] <cwillu_at_work> looks like it did :)
  • [18:42:01] <cwillu_at_work> (I'm assuming the metal plate on the button is gnd?
  • [18:42:08] * cwillu_at_work pulls out a meter
  • [18:42:43] <cwillu_at_work> nope, that's not gnd
  • [18:43:00] <mru> what is it?
  • [18:43:01] <cwillu_at_work> I might have hit the side though
  • [18:43:02] <mru> sky?
  • [18:43:48] <cwillu_at_work> apparently
  • [18:44:04] <mru> ah, it's connected directly to the cloud
  • [18:44:13] <cwillu_at_work> I FRIED THE CLOUD!
  • [18:44:28] <mru> thanks
  • [18:44:30] <djlewis_> and god felt it. you best watch out
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  • [18:46:01] <djlewis_> i been getting some serious static arse frying here too.
  • [18:51:09] <cwillu_at_work> oh, duh
  • [18:51:18] <cwillu_at_work> /dev/ttyO2 doesn't work on 2.6.36 kernels
  • [18:51:38] <djlewis_> pinmux issues?
  • [18:51:49] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis_, 2.6.37 changes the serial device names
  • [18:52:00] <cwillu_at_work> /dev/ttyS2 becomes /dev/ttyO2
  • [18:52:08] <cwillu_at_work> because it's an omap serial device, you see
  • [18:52:14] <djlewis_> oh joy, thats as fun s the install apps names getting changed.
  • [18:52:36] <cwillu_at_work> I lack words to express my anger
  • [18:53:07] <djlewis_> I dont see the reasoning for that rename. it is still the serial port. What, are we gonna have bogus serial ports
  • [18:53:15] <djlewis_> with the old name that hook to what?
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  • [18:54:21] <mrj10> cwillu: if you change your bootarg to /dev/ttyO2 instead, does it work?
  • [18:54:38] <cwillu_at_work> mrj10, I already changed my bootarg to /dev/ttyO2
  • [18:54:55] <mrj10> i ran into that before with 2.6.36 and had to straight up disable CONFIG_BLA_SERIAL_OMAP in my kernel defconfig
  • [18:55:01] <mrj10> well, maybe didnt have to, but it worked
  • [18:55:03] <cwillu_at_work> I'm checking for a driver bug that appears and got worse between .35, .36 and .37
  • [18:55:26] <cwillu_at_work> which means I have to change the bloody boot args every time I switch kernels
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  • [19:02:43] <ds2> considering the atom boards around....
  • [19:03:07] <mrj10> yikes
  • [19:04:01] <ds2> by the help newies line of reasoning, there is no reason to even consider an ARM board... afterall, most cities have best buys... get an atom baord, ATX power supply and other PC parts and you are done.
  • [19:12:31] <djlewis_> yes, and a lot of newbies here seem to expect a complete multimedia or gaming solution og the beagleboards.
  • [19:12:40] <djlewis_> s/og/of
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  • [19:13:54] <djlewis_> if we can get 3.3V serial logic this would work for newbies: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=449
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  • [19:14:39] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis_, can I run crysis under wine on a beagle with angstrom? or do I need to port android first?
  • [19:15:00] <djlewis_> rofl, yes that is the common question
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  • [19:15:34] <djlewis_> or at least one of them
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  • [19:16:48] <ian__> afternoon everyone, question, which kernel flavor is currently making the most use of the DSP on the bb? along the lines of felipec's work?
  • [19:17:18] <djlewis_> I would stretch my knowledge out there and suggest Angstrom
  • [19:17:50] <djlewis_> iirc, otherwise you get to add your own dsp
  • [19:18:08] <mrj10> ian__: do you mean which kernel tree? linux-omap-psp has fairly complete DSP support, but they're so far frozen at 2.6.32
  • [19:18:35] <ian__> essentially the tree...as i sit here looking through various git repositories to choose from...
  • [19:20:03] <mrj10> i'd go with linux-omap-psp 2.6.32 if you don't have a reason to choose otherwise, you'll get all the DSP and SGX drivers and things that way without screwing around with them
  • [19:20:11] <cwillu_at_work> octopus merge them all and let git sort them out
  • [19:20:14] <rcn-ee_at_work> ian__, if you interested in felipec's stuff using dspbridge: this is the best at the moment: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=tidspbridge/kernel-dspbridge.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/staging-linus otherwise angstrom 2.6.32 + dsplink..
  • [19:20:29] <ds2> 3.3V serial logic is easy
  • [19:20:38] <ds2> find me a 100 users and I'll make a board :D
  • [19:21:25] <djlewis_> ds2: the entrepreneur :)
  • [19:21:28] <ds2> if you can line up 100 or more buyers for a board...
  • [19:21:46] <ds2> djlewis: no, if stuff like that is really a barrier...let's remove it.
  • [19:21:49] <ian__> ok, thanks rcn-ee_at_work
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  • [19:22:13] <ds2> that sort of stuff is as silly as saying I can't come into work, the road is blocked by a pile of marshomellows
  • [19:22:24] <rcn-ee_at_work> ian__, that's supposly the tree where it now works for 2.6.37, still figureing out the userspace side myself..
  • [19:22:26] <ian__> my primary concern is getting a bit of a performance gain in video enc
  • [19:23:04] <djlewis_> in the time I have been in this channel, I see a smaller ratio of diy's capable of it than users that cant or dont have the resources or talent
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  • [19:24:24] <jonpry> anyone interested in working on improvements to xload?
  • [19:24:34] <ds2> what do you have in mind?
  • [19:24:38] <rcn-ee_at_work> cwillu_at_work, the tubes are still clogged, no way am i going to get that kernel uploaded till i get hiome..
  • [19:24:49] <ds2> enhance it enough so U-boot isn't needed anymore? :D
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  • [19:25:14] <jonpry> no not really. i was thinking a ddr identifier would be cool
  • [19:26:19] <jonpry> and maybe some other added features. but the other stuff wouldn't be terribly useful to anyone but me atm
  • [19:29:39] <jonpry> this stuff for reading the nand id is terribly hackish
  • [19:29:47] * cwillu_at_work couriers rcn-ee_at_work a straw
  • [19:32:47] * rcn-ee_at_work we need a sysadmin http://xkcd.com/705/
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  • [19:42:46] <djlewis_> is that the sound of success?
  • [19:43:01] <mru> or perhaps the sound of bribes
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  • [19:53:05] <ian__> anyone dabbled with the Matrix GUI beyond how it comes packaged in the SDK?
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  • [20:06:20] <jkridner> ian__: yeah, not much to it.
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  • [20:06:45] <jkridner> of course, since it is a web browser, you can make web apps pretty easy.
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  • [20:09:06] <ian__> i've not run it, and looking for a low overhead for my dm365...you need the SDK to build it though, correct?
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  • [20:14:07] <ian__> or build on angstrom...well that was easy.
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  • [20:22:49] <edujo___> I am doing debian squeeze net install to a SD CARD. What is the kernel module that I need to load to see this drive?
  • [20:23:21] <edujo___> I modprobed raid_class and scsi_debug but it only shows 8MB at /dev/sda
  • [20:24:27] <rcn-ee_at_work> edujo___, modprobing on a beagle?
  • [20:25:18] <edujo___> rcn-ee, it is a devkit8000. Yes, I chose 'back' and them 'shell' and from there modprobe'd
  • [20:25:59] <edujo___> rcn-ee, [ 280.947784] scsi0 : scsi_debug, version 1.82 [20100324], dev_size_mb=8, opts=
  • [20:25:59] <edujo___> 0x0
  • [20:26:23] <edujo___> [ 280.967010] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
  • [20:26:23] <edujo___> [ 280.984741] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 16384 512-byte logical blocks: (8.38 MB/8.00 Mi
  • [20:26:23] <edujo___> B)
  • [20:26:29] <cwillu_at_work> edujo___, use a pastebin
  • [20:27:47] <rcn-ee_at_work> edujo___, are you doing something different then installing to a single sd card, the script puts all the install files on the fatfs, and then you use the rest of the drive during the install..
  • [20:28:05] <edujo___> cwillu_at_work, sorry .. newbie to IRC :) I will use pastbin
  • [20:30:28] <_av500_> jkridner: since nobody has serial any more, having an ftdi on board is nice imho
  • [20:30:52] <_av500_> just make sure it is fully usb powered and not board powered
  • [20:31:10] <edujo___> rcn-ee, I am installing t the same SD I booted. In a 512MB device the script created just one fat partition with 71M, 33M files..
  • [20:31:52] <edujo___> rcn-ee, but when the installer reachs the stage vefore partitioning the device it cant find any and offers me list of drivers to load
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  • [20:32:59] <rcn-ee_at_work> edujo___, okay wasn't sure... humm it should have found the mmc card automaticly.. (it does on every other omap3 system i have) i guess we are still missing something on the mmc for the devkit8000...
  • [20:33:50] <rcn-ee_at_work> if you reboot, open a nother console with "ctrl alt f2", anything odd with "dmesg | grep mmc"?
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  • [20:35:05] <edujo___> rcn-ee_at_work, I will reboot, but how is the ctr alt f2 trick with serial install? :) I m chosing 'shell' from the console menu
  • [20:35:49] <rcn-ee_at_work> crap, it doesn't.. ;)
  • [20:36:14] <edujo___> Ahh i went to kernel/drivers/mmc/host and insmod everything and now there is my mmcblk0 with 4GB
  • [20:36:35] <rcn-ee_at_work> so it's just not detecting it on boot...
  • [20:39:24] <edujo___> rcn-ee_at_work, I used to work on embedded linux some years ago... Things are very different now! This debian support to ARM is amazing!!! :)
  • [20:41:17] <edujo___> rcn-ee_at_work, if a target a memory stick will the omap be able to boot from it?
  • [20:42:29] <rcn-ee_at_work> it depends what board you have... on a c4 or earlier, x-load/u-boot/kernel can be in nand then yes.. on an xM x-load/u-boot/kernel have to be in the sd card... but the rest of your rootfs can be anywhere...
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  • [20:44:17] <edujo___> ok, I see. :) I was looking to buy some board from mouser/digikey but they show like 0 in stock
  • [20:44:56] <rcn-ee_at_work> there will be more next week.. more demand then supply.. ;)
  • [20:45:07] <edujo___> I will need some 150 boards in the next month.. do you know if that stock is true? Because on the beagleboard page there is a statement they are coming on a '200 per week rate'.. ?
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  • [20:45:47] <ian__> edujo___ are you building an ARM farm? :)
  • [20:46:26] <edujo___> ian__, sorry.. no! But if I have some spare time that is a very appealing idea!
  • [20:46:39] <rcn-ee_at_work> edujo___, i'd put an order in digikey shows stock of the xm...
  • [20:47:05] <RobotGuy> I am having difficulty with networking on a BeagleBoard-xM. Ubuntu is not seeing the on board ethernet. How can I fix this? No modules are loaded.
  • [20:47:30] <rcn-ee_at_work> RobotGuy, lsmod doesn't show the smsc95xx?
  • [20:47:34] <edujo___> rcn-ee_at_work, do you know if rc4 will be in production? because the bot from nand and sotring the rootfs somewhere (like Internet.. it is a small system) is very appealing to me
  • [20:47:48] <ian__> eduko___ good luck getting your boards...I'm just crossing my fingers I ordered a Panda soon enough...
  • [20:47:48] <RobotGuy> No, it does not. The module is not loaded.
  • [20:47:54] <rcn-ee_at_work> both are still in production...
  • [20:48:08] <rcn-ee_at_work> last i heard, as long as their is demand...
  • [20:48:43] <rcn-ee_at_work> RobotGuy, do you ahve the modules installed for your kernel /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/
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  • [20:49:22] <Jefro> RotobGuy - which Ubuntu? I used rsalveti'
  • [20:49:27] <edujo___> ian__, I hope I can get the boards.. there are some legal requirements for importing such number of boards. :)
  • [20:49:34] <Jefro> s images for Maverick and it Just Worked
  • [20:49:55] <Jefro> RobotGuy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall
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  • [20:50:18] <Jefro> RobotGuy - actually, now that I think about it, it did *not* work on the first boot, but did work on subsequent boots.
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  • [20:51:33] <RobotGuy> It has not worked on any boot so far.
  • [20:52:22] <rcn-ee_at_work> RobotGuy, i know you were working on a your own custom kernel build, is this still true and did you install the modules to the rootfs?
  • [20:52:45] <RobotGuy> I don't have a uImage for the kernel installed with linux-image-omap
  • [20:52:56] <RobotGuy> rcn-ee_at_work: This image is built with rootstock
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  • [20:54:14] <rcn-ee_at_work> ah so roostock with using ubuntu linux-image-omap.. not my department... You'll have to pull the vmlinuz from the rootfs 'tar.gz' and use that as uImage..
  • [20:55:30] <rcn-ee_at_work> the ubuntu guy's would rather you use their 'media-create' script over rootstock.. rootstock is more for people useing non ubuntu kernel's..
  • [20:55:46] <RobotGuy> rcn-ee_at_work: I didn't know that would work.
  • [20:55:56] <rsalveti> you can also use ubuntu kernel's
  • [20:56:05] <rsalveti> you just need to request it to be installed by rootstock
  • [20:56:12] <RobotGuy> rsalveti: I need source to match the running kernel.
  • [20:56:24] <rcn-ee_at_work> yeap, he just needs to pull the vmlinuz from /boot/* in the tar file..
  • [20:56:26] <rsalveti> you can grab from the deb-src
  • [20:56:46] <rsalveti> there's also a git tree, if you need
  • [20:57:02] <RobotGuy> I already have linux-image-omap in my rootstock command. I think I am starting to understand now.
  • [20:57:15] <rsalveti> ok
  • [20:57:20] <RobotGuy> Don't confuse me with options please. :)
  • [20:58:15] <Jefro> RobotGuy - LOL, +1
  • [20:58:22] <rcn-ee_at_work> RobotGuy, after running rootstock, look in the final tar, there should be a vmlinuz and uinitrd in the boot directory, copy those to the fatfs and use mkimage for uImage and uInird..
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  • [20:59:20] <edujo__> mmm there is a mmcblk0p1 & p2 but the installer doesnt 'see' them and when I launch a console and try to mkfs it, I get:
  • [20:59:21] <edujo__> /dev/mmcblk0p2: Read-only file system while setting up superblock
  • [20:59:25] <edujo__> any clue?
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  • [21:05:51] <RobotGuy> rcn-ee_at_work: Do I do mkimage natively on the beagle?
  • [21:06:21] <rsalveti> you don't need, you can also do it at your host pc
  • [21:06:28] <rcn-ee_at_work> no on your development pc...
  • [21:06:32] <s4wrxttcs> I have an LCD panel that has a resolution of 1366x768, but I'm getting this error when I try that resolution "omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST, disabling LCD"
  • [21:06:57] <RobotGuy> I don't know anything about mkimage.
  • [21:07:17] <s4wrxttcs> I was wondering if anyone had any ideas or suggestions
  • [21:07:35] <RobotGuy> rcn-ee_at_work: You lost me.
  • [21:07:43] <prpplague> s4wrxttcs: most likely the frequency timmings you are using are incorrect
  • [21:07:59] <s4wrxttcs> the pixel clock is 70mhz
  • [21:08:08] <s4wrxttcs> which should be under the maximum that the chip supports
  • [21:09:03] <s4wrxttcs> I also just tried it using the HDMI output and got the same error, and that uses whatever is in the modeb.c file (as far as I know)
  • [21:09:21] <s4wrxttcs> 1280x800 works fine
  • [21:09:29] <s4wrxttcs> 1280x768 puts it into 1280x800
  • [21:10:26] <s4wrxttcs> I've successfully used an LCD panel file before for an 800x480 panel
  • [21:11:11] <s4wrxttcs> under \drivers\video\omap2\displays
  • [21:13:58] <s4wrxttcs> the lcd panel itself only gives me blanking and doesn't give me front porch, back porch, or horizontal sync. Cause there really isn't any of those
  • [21:14:50] <s4wrxttcs> so I just made sync plus the porches added up to the blanking time
  • [21:18:47] <jacekowski> anybody here familiar with u-boot?
  • [21:18:51] <jacekowski> and it's mkimage tool
  • [21:19:10] <cwillu_at_work> vaguely
  • [21:19:11] <mrj10> what about it
  • [21:20:15] <jacekowski> copy&paste from other channel
  • [21:20:16] <jacekowski> 22:16 < jacekowski> [sbox-FREMANTLE_ARMEL: ~/uboot/u-boot] > ./tools/mkimage -A arm -C lzma -O u-boot -T firmware -d u-boot.bin my_image
  • [21:20:19] <jacekowski> 22:16 < jacekowski> Data Size: 172120 Bytes = 168.09 kB = 0.16 MB
  • [21:20:21] <jacekowski> 22:16 < jacekowski> but
  • [21:20:24] <jacekowski> 22:17 < jacekowski> -rwxrwxr-x 1 jacekowski jacekowski 172120 Nov 12 22:16 u-boot.bin
  • [21:20:27] <jacekowski> 22:17 < jacekowski> -rw-rw-r-- 1 jacekowski jacekowski 172184 Nov 12 22:16 my_image
  • [21:20:30] <jacekowski> 22:17 < jacekowski> -rwxrwxr-x 1 jacekowski jacekowski 88867 Nov 12 22:16 u-boot.bin.bz2
  • [21:20:33] <mrj10> dude
  • [21:20:36] <jacekowski> why it's not compressing
  • [21:20:37] <mrj10> use pastebin instead, please.
  • [21:20:52] <jacekowski> it's barely over 3 lines
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  • [21:21:48] <mrj10> hmm.. is firmware supposed to be compressible? i've always used -C none
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  • [21:22:49] <cwillu_at_work> mkimage doesn't do the compressing, you compress it and tell it what you used
  • [21:23:13] <cwillu_at_work> 6 lines is twice 3 lines, and they're long enough to wrap, making them 12 lines on my screen
  • [21:23:42] <jacekowski> not all of them
  • [21:23:45] <jacekowski> one is shorter
  • [21:24:15] <cwillu_at_work> ... and one of them wrapped to three lines
  • [21:25:02] <edujo__> during debian netinstall my SD card was not detect. I manually modprobed the MMC driver but every SD inserted was marked as read-only... :(
  • [21:25:45] <edujo__> I worked around by using two SD cards and the target one plugged to an USB-SD reader that appeared as sdX instead mmcblkX... funny
  • [21:26:42] <mrj10> jacekowski: not a big deal, just in future. personally i don't care much, but i've been flamed (worse than "please use pastebin") for less and would hate to see the same happen to others
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  • [21:27:07] <cwillu_at_work> and more relevantly to me, don't whine about it when somebody complains
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  • [21:52:42] <Jefro> dss2 - I meant to ask you about touchscreens the other day
  • [21:52:53] <Jefro> er..
  • [21:53:01] <Jefro> ds2 - I meant to ask you about touchscreens the other day
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  • [22:27:13] <ds2> ?
  • [22:29:19] <Jefro> ds2 - I'd like to find a very cheap (har!) 7" touchscreen to use with the beagle, but I haz no ee skillz
  • [22:29:29] <ds2> Jefro: I got one. =)
  • [22:29:37] <ds2> just a touch screen or LCD + TS combo?
  • [22:29:38] <Jefro> ha... I was hoping you would magically be able to suggest one
  • [22:29:45] <Jefro> LCD + TS
  • [22:30:05] <Jefro> I'd like to use it to put together a few projects for the BeagleBoard book I'm working on
  • [22:30:14] <ds2> that is going on sale as soon as i can get the website together
  • [22:30:33] <Jefro> ah, excellent - rolling your own ecommerce site?
  • [22:30:44] <ds2> yes...that's taking a good part of this year :(
  • [22:30:51] <Jefro> it can do that, and more
  • [22:31:01] <Jefro> and canned solutions never look right
  • [22:31:13] <ds2> too much overhead for the canned solutions
  • [22:31:23] <Jefro> I'd point you toward a good contractor for such things, but all the good ones are $$$$
  • [22:31:28] <ds2> it is looking close
  • [22:31:38] <Jefro> cool - let me know if you need a beta tester
  • [22:31:39] <ds2> it isn't that part, it is the backend...paperwork up the wazoo
  • [22:32:34] <Jefro> yuck
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  • [22:33:08] <ds2> I am strongly leaning toward making nothing available to the locals (cuts down on my paperwork)
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  • [22:38:30] <emeb> sales tax?
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  • [22:39:06] <ds2> among others
  • [22:39:13] <djlewis_> to omuch fun for one day ;) later ...
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  • [22:39:44] <emeb> the gov't is here to help. :)
  • [22:40:24] <emeb> too bad there's not something like etsy for tech stuff.
  • [22:40:33] <ds2> I am sure it has; point was it is possible to do it yourself instead of doing it through a brick and mortar publisher who ships to amazon
  • [22:40:36] <ds2> blah
  • [22:40:53] <ds2> amazon comes close
  • [22:40:56] <Jefro> emeb ds2 there is something similar to that through make
  • [22:41:09] <ds2> but the state don't recogonize them in a manner that solves problems
  • [22:41:38] <Jefro> no, you still need to be a legit company in order for the state to take their due
  • [22:41:49] <Jefro> and that involves....paper
  • [22:42:01] <ds2> no...they are happy to take it from individuals
  • [22:42:13] <ds2> anyways
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  • [22:51:33] <ds2> did I ever mention my dislike for vendor trees? :D
  • [22:51:46] <mru> can't be mentioned enough
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