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  • [00:07:55] <cwicks> UT Students and any potential mentors for UT projects, you can join us tonight on phone line Dial into 877-561-6828 x54043628# as well as IRC
  • [00:08:31] <cwicks> Any UT students on IRC now?
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  • [00:09:51] <bjrosas> Brandon Rosas here
  • [00:09:52] <jkridner|work> Brandon said that he was on the IRC? Brandon, are you here?
  • [00:09:57] <jkridner|work> ah, there you are. :)
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  • [00:11:34] <_pseudonym> cwicks: I'm also from UT
  • [00:11:57] <jkridner|work> hi _pseudonym
  • [00:12:04] * mru inserts joke about eternal september
  • [00:13:57] <jkridner|work> we are making the suggestion that at least 1 rep from each group should attend the weekly session. does that make sense _pseudonym?
  • [00:14:13] <jkridner|work> we want to talk about what the proposed projects are.
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  • [00:15:22] <_pseudonym> jkridner|work: 1 person teams might have trouble making every single week since there's no alternate
  • [00:15:34] <_pseudonym> but it's a good idea in theory
  • [00:17:02] <jkridner|work> sending an e-mail when you can't make it and giving an update would be fine.
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  • [00:19:33] <_pseudonym> how will you handle two groups working on very similar projects? competition = keep your info secret vs open source = sharing everything
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  • [00:20:35] <jkridner|work> _pseudonym: I think we should try to avoid projects being too similar, since we want to foster advancing open source.
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  • [00:21:24] <jkridner|work> stephanie doesn't necessarily require you sharing anything early, but I'm a fan of the open source methodology of share early, share often.
  • [00:21:36] <_pseudonym> I noticed a few ideas based on autonomous vehicles
  • [00:21:42] <joe_tessler> Evening, Jason
  • [00:21:47] <jkridner|work> i think you handicap yourself by staying secret.
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  • [00:21:52] <jkridner|work> hi joe_tessler.
  • [00:22:07] <jkridner|work> cwicks: thoughts?
  • [00:25:57] <cwicks> jkridner: I think if they stay silent, they won't get the mentoring they need from the community
  • [00:26:24] <jkridner|work> cwicks: I agree.
  • [00:26:53] <joe_tessler> Well - I have a new idea I was putting together over the weekend
  • [00:27:37] <jahid> i still need a way to connect the board to a monitor
  • [00:27:43] <_pseudonym> there's a difference between full disclosure of your entire plan and sharing enough to get help if you need it. I don't need to know your internal algorithm to help you with interfacing an external device
  • [00:27:45] <jkridner|work> joe_tessler: do you have a board and have you had a chance to get something running?
  • [00:28:10] <jkridner|work> jahid: welcome. do you just have a VGA monitor, instead of DVI-D?
  • [00:28:37] <jahid> my laptop only has a vga port
  • [00:28:52] <jkridner|work> your laptop has an INPUT?!?!?
  • [00:29:08] <jahid> im guessing it could be used for input?
  • [00:29:12] <jkridner|work> On http://beagleboardtoys.com/, there is an adapter that will enable VGA output.
  • [00:29:21] <jkridner|work> jahid: not likely.
  • [00:29:33] <jkridner|work> If you plan to view on your laptop, I'd guess you'd want to use VNC.
  • [00:29:36] <joe_tessler> jkrinder: yes, I got the board running this morning with the Angstrom demo
  • [00:30:07] <ds2> hmmmm
  • [00:30:13] <jahid> can you elaborate on VNC
  • [00:30:29] <jsabin> can anyone help with getting the ethernet port on an xm working with angstrom?
  • [00:31:59] <jkridner|work> joe_tessler: great!
  • [00:32:11] <jkridner|work> jsabin: it works by default.
  • [00:32:21] <_pseudonym> jahid: if your board is running linux, treat it like a remote server and use VNC to connect
  • [00:32:31] <jkridner|work> jahid: read the FAQ. http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardFAQ#Accessing_the_BeagleBoard_using_VNC
  • [00:32:48] <jahid> thanks
  • [00:33:04] <jsabin> using the provided uboot and angstrom image, i don't get link.
  • [00:33:37] <jsabin> i've verified the cable and the switch port with a laptop.
  • [00:33:51] <jsabin> could i have an old image?
  • [00:36:56] <joe_tessler> jkridner|work: how late will the UT competition discussion go tonight? I may have to come back a bit later
  • [00:37:37] <jkridner|work> until 8PM Central US time...
  • [00:37:46] <jkridner|work> but, I'm back here just about every morning.
  • [00:39:03] <joe_tessler> in that case, I'll get online tomorrow morning (as close to 7am as I can)
  • [00:39:04] <jkridner|work> jsabin: what do you mean by 'link'?
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  • [00:39:26] <jkridner|work> thanks joe_tessler.... if it is a bit later, I should still be around pretty much all morning.
  • [00:40:01] <joe_tessler> jkridner|work: alright, thank you
  • [00:40:24] <jsabin> Thanks for helping btw. ethernet layer link, link light on switch and xm. they all stay off.
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  • [00:41:04] <cwicks> UT Students we are continuing our meeting on IRC only rather than phone - bring on the questions!
  • [00:41:06] <jkridner|work> odd. jsabin: it is possible you have an old image then.
  • [00:41:14] <jsabin> i see no packets from the xm and i never get a dhcp lease.
  • [00:41:28] <jkridner|work> jsabin: can you pastebin the serial output?
  • [00:41:29] <_pseudonym> cwicks: is there an ETA for the board shipments?
  • [00:42:09] <cwicks> _pseudonym: do we have your group's paperwork?
  • [00:42:31] <jsabin> jkridner: sure. once i figure out how to do that. (not a big irc guy)
  • [00:42:31] <_pseudonym> yes, i submitted it at the demo meeting, but they ran out of boards
  • [00:42:56] <jkridner|work> jsabin: check out http://pastebin.ca. I think it is relatively intuitive....
  • [00:43:04] <jkridner|work> jsabin: then, paste the link here.
  • [00:43:19] <cwicks> _pseudonym: I have the board I can ship, I am waiting on the vendor for some of the cables - I'll get an ETA tomorrow on that
  • [00:43:29] <jsabin> http://pastebin.com/9qyugGkN
  • [00:43:48] <jsabin> yep, sorry. terminology confusion.
  • [00:44:17] <_pseudonym> cwicks: thanks
  • [00:44:47] <cwicks> UT Students - would any of you like to vet out some ideas on your project scope w/ Jason while we have him tonight?
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  • [00:45:17] <jkridner|work> jsabin: k, the network driver comes up and the attempt to DHCP is there.
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  • [00:46:45] <Psyx> Hello everyone, I might have screwed my bootargs, is there any way to revert to defaults?
  • [00:46:49] <jsabin> jkridner: right. but nothing is actually hitting the wire. i've wiresharked, checked cables, etc. the switch thinks there is nothing plugged in.
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  • [00:48:56] <jkridner|work> Psyx: Per http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardNAND, 'nand erase 260000 20000'
  • [00:49:14] <Psyx> thank you
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  • [00:49:48] <jkridner|work> jsabin: it is starting to sound a bit like hardware failure, so I'd suggest trying the procedure at http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnosticsNext as that was used for board testing in the factory.
  • [00:50:51] <jkridner|work> hmmm.... looks like you might already be using that image...
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  • [00:51:24] <jkridner|work> jsabin: are you in the US if we need to ship a board back and forth to get this resolved?
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  • [00:52:03] <jkridner|work> jsabin: it seems odd there would be such a hardware failure, but if you are using the diagnostic image, at least you should see some network activity.
  • [00:52:07] <jsabin> jkridner: yep, chicago. just got the board friday in fact.
  • [00:52:16] <jkridner|work> it is odd that the software would report it, but you don't even get the LEDs....
  • [00:52:20] <Animule> haha, give him a grape now
  • [00:52:38] <kkcn> hello, we need help in reflashing the board
  • [00:53:22] <jahid> for VNC would you use an ethernet cable?
  • [00:53:23] <jkridner|work> jsabin: would you happen to have tested the wire connection with another system, just to be sure the wire is live?
  • [00:53:30] <jsabin> jkridner: i thought so as well. that's why i thought i was just using the wrong image(s). like the ethernet hadn't been properly initialized.
  • [00:53:46] <jkridner|work> kkcn: are you a UT student following the steps at http://beagleboard.org/challenge?
  • [00:54:01] <kkcn> how do i run a serial terminal application? do we need to run it through serial port or can we run it through hdmi?
  • [00:54:07] <JakeJBailey> putty
  • [00:54:09] <kkcn> yes, i am
  • [00:54:16] <JakeJBailey> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-beagle-board/
  • [00:54:17] <jsabin> jkridner: correct. i checked the ethernet cable(and tried other cables), checked the switch port(and used other ports and other switches)
  • [00:54:18] <jkridner|work> jsabin: your date stamp seems to match the validation image.
  • [00:54:55] <jkridner|work> kkcn: the reflash activity cannot be done at the local console (HDMI)....
  • [00:55:25] <jsabin> jkridner: i've just been using the images that came on the sd card, but i'm willing to follow the instructions at the link to build new ones if you think that could help.
  • [00:55:25] <jkridner|work> kkcn: it is possible to update the SD card to have a bug-fixed u-boot.bin and to always boot the local MLO using the USER button.
  • [00:55:28] <JakeJBailey> you might should post that link at the start of the instructions jkridner
  • [00:55:43] <kkcn> ok, so do we need to purchase a serial-usb adapter? we are currently connecting the board to the monitor via hdmi
  • [00:55:58] <JakeJBailey> you dont have access to a computer with serial?
  • [00:56:07] <jkridner|work> jsabin: it seems like you already have the right software.
  • [00:56:08] <kkcn> no, we do not
  • [00:56:24] <Psyx> could this error during initial boot be caused by bad bootargs? [ 27.234802] Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
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  • [00:56:55] <JakeJBailey> yea i guess ftdi is an option
  • [00:57:05] <jsabin> jkridner: ok. what's the next step? RMA?
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  • [00:58:21] <jkridner|work> JakeJBailey: done
  • [00:58:35] <JakeJBailey> cool
  • [00:58:51] <jkridner|work> jsabin: start the RMA process and maybe CircuitCo will have some other debug steps....
  • [00:59:20] <jkridner|work> include this link to make sure they know you spoke to me: http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2010-10-12#T00:30:29
  • [00:59:48] <jkridner|work> Psyx: I'd need a lot more of a log. try pastebin.
  • [00:59:48] <jsabin> jkridner: will do. thx for help.
  • [01:00:02] <jkridner|work> jsabin: thanks for the patience.
  • [01:00:22] <JakeJBailey> any way to get onscreen keyboard in angstrom
  • [01:00:35] <Psyx> jkridner|work: I pasted all I have here: http://pastebin.com/K26WDWzc
  • [01:00:45] <jkridner|work> kkcn: I think you can pull down a "good" u-boot.bin from http://www.beagleboard.org/demo/beagleboard.
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  • [01:01:10] <jkridner|work> the one on the SD cards was based on the ESC Chicago images at http://beagleboard.org/esc.
  • [01:02:14] <jkridner|work> Psyx: that looks like it is due to the issue where the interrupt vector is no longer plugged when you don't have a gadget driver installed.
  • [01:02:28] <jkridner|work> Psyx: are you powering up via USB?
  • [01:02:35] <Psyx> Yes sir
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  • [01:03:05] <jkridner|work> Psyx: you can get a kernel with the g_ether driver compiled in at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [01:03:57] <Psyx> that is where I acquired the files as a matter of fact
  • [01:04:24] <jkridner|work> Psyx: grab http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/uImage-2.6.32-r90+gitra6bad4464f985fdd3bed72e1b82dcbfc004d7869-beagleboard.multi-config-cpuidle-gether.bin
  • [01:04:24] <Psyx> I am currently replacing the uImage from the /boot folder of the tarball into the boot partition, to see if that fixes anythign
  • [01:04:34] <Psyx> aha
  • [01:04:36] <jkridner|work> be sure to use the one with gether.
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  • [01:05:50] * jkridner|work is closing up shop on UT BeagleBoard challenge office hours. Any last requests?
  • [01:06:07] <Psyx> would I have to do anything to the .bin before placing it in the boot partition?
  • [01:06:23] <ds2> office hours
  • [01:06:24] <ds2> ?
  • [01:06:24] <jkridner|work> nope, except rename it to uImage.
  • [01:06:31] <Psyx> gotcha, thanks
  • [01:06:32] <JakeJBailey> are other distros limited in comparison to angstrom, all of thier wikis seem to mention problems with the dsp
  • [01:06:41] <Psyx> oh hey, we're at UT, ENS to be specific
  • [01:06:54] <ds2> no need to use a distro
  • [01:07:00] <jkridner|work> yeah, we planned to have the UT BeagleBoard challenge folks on IRC at this time, so I needed to be here, but I am anxious to actually step away from the computer for a bit.
  • [01:07:02] <ds2> just dive right in. easier and leaner
  • [01:07:25] <kkcn_> jkridner, we connected the beagleboard to a cpu with a serial port, and connected the monitor to the cpu via dvi
  • [01:07:27] <ds2> Oh, didn't know that... if I did, I would have looked at the screen more. sorry.
  • [01:07:29] <kkcn_> is this correct?
  • [01:07:55] <jkridner|work> kkcn_: CPU = desktop PC? yeah.
  • [01:08:07] <ds2> kkcn_: you can also connect the monitor to the BB
  • [01:09:03] <kkcn_> yes, we connected the monitor to the desktop tower via dvi, and the BB to the tower via serial port
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  • [01:09:24] <JakeJBailey> does the monitor have multiple dvi inputs?
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  • [01:09:50] <kkcn_> nope, it has only 1 dvi input
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  • [01:10:21] <djlewis> note: it is NOT recommended to hot plug the video on a BeagleBoard
  • [01:10:39] <kkcn_> it is not booting from the BB, it is booting from the desktop tower
  • [01:10:58] <_pseudonym> djlewis: why?
  • [01:11:10] <djlewis> kills port somewhat
  • [01:11:12] <JakeJBailey> are you just trying to get your board running kcn?
  • [01:11:20] <JakeJBailey> kkcn*
  • [01:11:22] <djlewis> beagle is light on buffering circuits
  • [01:11:35] <ds2> hot plugging the DVI port can cause damaging transients to the transceiver
  • [01:11:52] <djlewis> in the beagleboard
  • [01:11:52] <ds2> apparently some monitors are more sensitive to the degraded transceiver then others
  • [01:11:58] <kkcn_> yeah, when we plugged the BB to the monitor via dvi (not through the tower), we got the start up screen
  • [01:12:03] <_pseudonym> djlewis: ah. I thought the DVI spec included hot swapping
  • [01:12:05] <kkcn_> but it had the login error
  • [01:12:14] <djlewis> in an ideal world ;)
  • [01:12:28] <JakeJBailey> okay have you followed the fix guide?
  • [01:12:36] <JakeJBailey> http://beagleboard.org/challenge/
  • [01:12:47] <djlewis> PC dvi ports have better buffering to the connector
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  • [01:13:20] <kkcn_> we tried, but how do we run the serial termination application?
  • [01:13:23] <djlewis> _pseudonym: the beagleboard is light on circuits to reduce cost.
  • [01:13:36] <JakeJBailey> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-beagle-board/
  • [01:13:45] <kkcn_> sorry for the incredibly stupid questions, we are inexperienced
  • [01:13:48] <JakeJBailey> are you using windows on the desktop computer
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  • [01:13:52] <kkcn_> yes
  • [01:14:04] <JakeJBailey> okay there is a windows section in that last link
  • [01:14:10] <ds2> recommend not using windows ever.
  • [01:14:37] <djlewis> it is far more convienent to use linux beside beagleboard
  • [01:15:08] <JakeJBailey> http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe
  • [01:15:12] <JakeJBailey> get that kkcn
  • [01:15:49] <jkridner|work> if these are lab machines, you might just want to use Hyperterminal.
  • [01:15:53] <jkridner|work> it blows, but it works.
  • [01:16:03] <jkridner|work> and it is already installed.
  • [01:16:04] <djlewis> :)
  • [01:16:34] <JakeJBailey> I assumed you are on your own computer kkcn
  • [01:19:09] <kkcn_> yeah
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  • [01:20:23] <JakeJBailey> okay are you running putty yet?
  • [01:21:17] <kkcn_> yeah we downloaded it and are trying to
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  • [01:22:49] <kkcn_> our computer doesn't have a serial port, so we are trying to do it on a lab computer, What is a hyper terminal
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  • [01:24:12] <JakeJBailey> its the serial program already installed on the lab computers
  • [01:24:20] <JakeJBailey> ive never used it but it should be pretty easy
  • [01:24:26] <kkcn_> one second
  • [01:24:27] <_pseudonym> kkcn_: press winkey + r, type "hypertrm", press enter
  • [01:24:35] <JakeJBailey> just find it and make sure the settings are the same as outlined on the IBM tutorial
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  • [01:36:08] <cwicks> Hi UT Students, anyone still here in IRC?
  • [01:37:03] <JakeJBailey> yea
  • [01:38:16] <crussell187> yeah
  • [01:39:35] <mozmck> In case anyone wants a better terminal, I found a program called wxterm that works great. https://iftools.com/opensource/download.en.php
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  • [01:40:19] <_pseudonym> cwicks: yes
  • [01:40:38] <crussell187> was wondering if anyone knew of some opensource linux drivers for a tv tuner
  • [01:41:01] <JakeJBailey> would depend on the tv tuner i would think
  • [01:41:08] <JakeJBailey> you can try mythtv tho
  • [01:41:34] <crussell187> yeah i've been looking at linuxtv.org
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  • [01:42:35] <ds2> yes, there are quite a few
  • [01:43:25] <ds2> there are a few USB Hauppage ones
  • [01:44:12] <emeb> I'm using an atsc tuner on my Fedora box. Works fine - no setup except to install firmware
  • [01:45:33] <crussell187> so easy or hard port to the beagleboard?
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  • [01:46:00] <crussell187> i'm guessing it's already been done but was thinking of incorporating it into a larger software package
  • [01:46:16] <crussell187> the xbmc's UI is fairly slow on the beagleboard
  • [01:46:24] <ds2> it might just work as long as the bit rate isn't too much
  • [01:46:29] <ds2> so it is more of a test exercise
  • [01:47:10] <crussell187> a little bit
  • [01:47:34] <crussell187> we're still trying to tackle what would be a good media box that reacts a little quicker
  • [01:47:44] <crussell187> maybe with larger storage options for media also
  • [01:48:47] <JakeJBailey> idk if this project idea is supposed to be marketable but if thats the case there are probably other alternatives
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  • [01:49:50] <crussell187> lol these ideas a little overdone already?
  • [01:50:10] <JakeJBailey> yea true
  • [01:50:14] <ds2> consider pairing it up with a hawkboard? that has a sata interface which can be more suitable for storage
  • [01:51:07] <crussell187> yeah that might help
  • [01:51:10] <crussell187> because i didn't know if usb externals would be the best option
  • [01:51:34] <crussell187> i know usb bandwidth for dvd is fine
  • [01:51:38] <crussell187> haven't tried HD content
  • [01:51:54] <crussell187> but it would be nice to have sata as option
  • [01:52:07] <ds2> now try USB bandwidth for DVD while reading it for display AND writing a copy out to a storage device
  • [01:52:08] <JakeJBailey> beagle wont play HD in most cases anyways tho
  • [01:52:58] <crussell187> if only we could put a tegra on it lol...
  • [01:54:29] <JakeJBailey> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157194
  • [01:55:31] <ds2> you really really don't want to do that :D
  • [01:56:59] <JakeJBailey> fits behind my tv, hah
  • [01:58:03] <crussell187> yeah i'm good lol
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  • [01:58:16] <JakeJBailey> friend has one of those WD things that works well
  • [01:58:17] <JakeJBailey> does 1080p
  • [01:58:55] <crussell187> WD?
  • [01:59:09] <JakeJBailey> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136472&cm_re=WD_media-_-22-136-472-_-Product
  • [01:59:13] <djlewis> or this.. http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2i-specifications/
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  • [01:59:30] <crussell187> apologize for the delay
  • [01:59:46] <crussell187> at work and typing also
  • [02:00:05] <JakeJBailey> WD thing is only 100$
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  • [02:00:16] <djlewis> much better rpice
  • [02:00:18] <djlewis> price
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  • [02:01:44] <crussell187> true but then it makes my project kind of obsolete....
  • [02:02:02] <crussell187> unless I can make it pocket size
  • [02:02:45] <crussell187> our other project idea was home control and monitoring
  • [02:03:10] <crussell187> light, temperature, power usage, etc.
  • [02:03:36] <djlewis> can do that with a pic
  • [02:04:03] <crussell187> a pic?
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  • [02:05:10] <djlewis> now add video and multimedia to the home controller then a BB is fine:)
  • [02:05:26] <JakeJBailey> yea thats my problem all my ideas are for microcontrollers
  • [02:05:30] <JakeJBailey> avrs tho, lol
  • [02:06:03] <JakeJBailey> djlewis: pic = microcontroller
  • [02:06:14] <djlewis> yes
  • [02:06:32] <JakeJBailey> sry meant to direct that at crussel
  • [02:06:34] <crussell187> gotcha
  • [02:06:40] <crussell187> i could make turning on lights an interactive game?
  • [02:06:49] <djlewis> our names sound the same ;)
  • [02:06:58] <buZz> crussell187: of course you can
  • [02:07:12] <JakeJBailey> im using pidgin and the color schemes on the names is throwing me off
  • [02:07:31] <djlewis> i'm a pidgin user too
  • [02:07:45] <JakeJBailey> not the best for irc but i was too lazy to look for something else
  • [02:08:03] <djlewis> i tried xchat but was not happy with it
  • [02:08:23] <Psyx> when I type "su", I get this message: sh: can't access tty; job control turned off. Is this a problem?
  • [02:08:24] <djlewis> I dont like tying up a browser for the java interface
  • [02:08:53] <JakeJBailey> xchat was okay until the trial ran out, hah
  • [02:09:07] <djlewis> free with linux
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  • [02:09:53] <djlewis> I dont recall Angstrom using the sudo type command
  • [02:10:05] <djlewis> it may though
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  • [02:11:02] <crussell187> alright guys gotta get off
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  • [02:11:24] <crussell187> thanks for the help
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  • [02:13:39] <JakeJBailey> angstrom has no sudo
  • [02:15:31] <Psyx> I'm trying to get angstrom to recognize my belkin 54g wifi adapter, during boot, it does recognize it under usb 2-2, any ideas what I need to do to get wlan0?
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  • [02:18:05] <Psyx> in trying to do so, I get this error when I issue the modprobe rt73 command: sh: modprobe: Permission denied
  • [02:18:27] <Psyx> and I thought sudo might help with that (obv not since angstrom has no sudo)
  • [02:18:36] <djlewis> login as root
  • [02:19:20] <Psyx> how would I do that/
  • [02:19:43] <Psyx> I mean, I was given no login prompt when botting
  • [02:19:45] <Psyx> booting*
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  • [02:20:56] <Psyx> here are the last couple lines of the boot: http://pastebin.com/MPQUjxag
  • [02:21:13] <Psyx> along with the "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
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  • [02:21:38] <djlewis> are you ni a gui?
  • [02:21:44] <djlewis> s/ni/in
  • [02:21:58] <Psyx> no, using the serial cable to communicate
  • [02:21:58] <djlewis> or console/terminal
  • [02:22:14] <Psyx> hyperterminal console
  • [02:22:16] <djlewis> well it used to prompt for a user login.
  • [02:22:28] <djlewis> logout and try root with no password
  • [02:22:44] <Psyx> what is the command for logging out?
  • [02:23:01] <djlewis> exit?
  • [02:23:25] <Psyx> # exit [ 196.114410] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
  • [02:23:37] <djlewis> hmmm
  • [02:24:06] <JakeJBailey> does for me
  • [02:24:18] <Psyx> exit logs you out Jake?
  • [02:24:24] <JakeJBailey> angstrom give login
  • [02:24:28] <JakeJBailey> gives*
  • [02:24:30] <Psyx> oh
  • [02:24:37] <Psyx> at this point I think the install went wrong
  • [02:24:40] <JakeJBailey> but exit logsout too
  • [02:24:45] <Psyx> any idea what this error is btw? "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
  • [02:24:47] <JakeJBailey> are you running off usb power?
  • [02:25:54] <Psyx> I was but was getting a kernal panic problems during the first boot so I switched to the barrel plug
  • [02:28:35] <Psyx> any idea how I should proceed?
  • [02:30:18] <djlewis> Psyx: you still using the image that came with your board?
  • [02:31:02] <Psyx> no sir, no image came with the board, just the board itself
  • [02:31:09] <Psyx> I downloaded everything from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [02:31:14] <djlewis> good
  • [02:31:32] <Psyx> I am thinking of downloading and doing the entire process over
  • [02:31:38] <djlewis> which bd?
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  • [02:31:52] <Psyx> bd?
  • [02:32:05] <djlewis> board? model?
  • [02:32:08] <Psyx> C4
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  • [02:32:59] <djlewis> if you have a spare SD then by all means experiment :)
  • [02:33:45] <Psyx> at this time I'm going to blast the SD away and start from scratch
  • [02:33:55] <Psyx> could you verify which files I should grab off http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/?
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  • [02:34:15] <lovehandle> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2
  • [02:34:23] <lovehandle> for setting up angstrom?
  • [02:34:27] <Psyx> yes
  • [02:34:42] <lovehandle> get that image, and scroll down for further instructions
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  • [02:35:23] <Psyx> gotcha
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  • [02:35:42] <lovehandle> are you currently running linux?
  • [02:36:13] <Psyx> I have two laptops I am trying with, linux and windows
  • [02:36:48] <Psyx> I used the linux one to partition the SD card, using this script: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/contrib/angstrom/omap3-mkcard.sh
  • [02:37:11] <Psyx> only using windows to use hyperterminal, but I set up minicom and will be using that
  • [02:38:06] <djlewis> Psyx: and get the plain names of u-boot.bin and uImage and MLO to match that image
  • [02:38:50] <Psyx> the uImage I grab from the tarball's boot directory, yes?
  • [02:39:06] <lovehandle> the uImage is from the FTP page you just linked
  • [02:39:08] <lovehandle> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [02:39:22] <lovehandle> oh
  • [02:39:24] <lovehandle> wait, you're right
  • [02:39:31] <lovehandle> sorry
  • [02:39:33] <Psyx> step 4 of How to Unpack and Boot the Demo Image
  • [02:39:49] <Psyx> that's what caused some confusion for me
  • [02:40:04] <Psyx> which is why it would be super cool if you could help me verify where I need to get it from
  • [02:40:06] <djlewis> if they are still included
  • [02:40:58] <lovehandle> did you format the sd card properly before you unpacked the tarball in it?
  • [02:41:22] <lovehandle> using mkcard? if so, yes it will be in /boot on the sdcard after the tarball is unpacked
  • [02:41:37] <Psyx> I used the following script: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/contrib/angstrom/omap3-mkcard.sh
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  • [02:41:57] <Psyx> gotcha
  • [02:42:13] <Psyx> as for MLO and u-boot.bin, which ones should I grab?
  • [02:42:15] <lovehandle> well i used this one http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/mkcard.txt but it may be the same
  • [02:42:28] <lovehandle> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/MLO
  • [02:42:35] <lovehandle> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/u-boot.bin
  • [02:42:38] <djlewis> yeah, that one works
  • [02:43:04] <Psyx> djlewis: by that one you mean the one I posted?
  • [02:43:07] <Psyx> alright, thanks lovehandle
  • [02:43:38] <Psyx> I will try with these on a fresh SD card format and partitioning and see what happens
  • [02:43:44] <Psyx> thanks djlewis
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  • [02:45:03] <Psyx> djlewis: when you said that one works, were you referring to the one I posted?
  • [02:49:02] <Psyx> alright, lab closing, need to head out
  • [02:49:05] <Psyx> thanks for all the help guys
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  • [02:50:28] <cwicks> Okay UT students, cwicks is logging off - keep coming back to the IRC, bounce ideas for your project with the community and check the contest wiki for information and deadlines from Stephanie!
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  • [02:52:49] <djlewis> Psyx: NO LOVEHANDLES
  • [02:52:55] <djlewis> oops
  • [02:54:37] <zwu_> I'm a new to beagleboard. Anybody know if there is an default s-vdieo screen after power-on? My u-boot is 2009.08 and no-signal on the TV after reset.
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  • [02:56:06] <killring> zwu: I don't believe there is
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  • [02:57:43] <ds2> some versions will put up color bar on the S-Video port
  • [02:57:46] <zwu_> killring: I can sucussfully boot rowboat android but no signal on s-video (I does not have a dvi cable )
  • [02:58:16] <zwu_> ds2: how to make sure the s-video is working? any other version I can use?
  • [02:58:25] <killring> with the latest demo image on my -xm, I just get a black screen
  • [02:58:54] <killring> on the validation image there is a svideo test
  • [02:59:24] <zwu_> killring: can you give me a link to download the validation image?
  • [02:59:47] <killring> yep... hang on
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  • [03:04:14] <killring> http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://beagleboard-validation.s3.amazonaws.com/deploy/201008201549/sd/beagleboard-validation-201008201549.img&usg=AFQjCNHVsGfSJH2PDnpmhg15WmX9chDnug
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  • [03:04:38] <zwu_> I just get dropped and do I missed some msg?
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  • [03:04:51] <killring> that's what I've use with the bb-xm, not sure if it works with the regular bb
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  • [03:05:16] <killring> (once more in case you missed it): http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://beagleboard-validation.s3.amazonaws.com/deploy/201008201549/sd/beagleboard-validation-201008201549.img&usg=AFQjCNHVsGfSJH2PDnpmhg15WmX9chDnug
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  • [05:19:08] <_av500_> topfs2: thats more like it
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  • [05:19:52] <top15fps> :)
  • [05:19:58] <_av500_> ;)
  • [05:20:12] * top15fps prefers the 100 one :)
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  • [05:28:35] <hitlin37> ds2,how to configure dss2 to mirror,is the same thing given in dss2 doc
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  • [05:48:40] <ds2> eh?
  • [05:48:50] <ds2> Invalid english received. Query ignored.
  • [05:49:37] <top15fps> lol
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  • [05:54:28] <hitlin37> is the steps given in dss2 doc are enough to display on tv ,or some extra settings are required
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  • [05:55:10] <ds2> and your question is?
  • [05:56:26] <hitlin37> im asking ,any extra setting is reqired ?
  • [05:56:57] <ds2> no, the docs should be sufficient.
  • [05:57:20] <hitlin37> i followed it,it gave me white lines on my tv
  • [05:57:58] <ds2> worked for me. do you have a S-Video tv?
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  • [05:58:49] <hitlin37> i was using s-video to rca connector
  • [05:59:22] <hitlin37> one side s-video another side yellow,red and white cables
  • [05:59:27] <ds2> check the signal on a scope
  • [06:00:05] <hitlin37> is there any issue for PAL/NTSC signal
  • [06:00:17] <hitlin37> i have to arrange a scope then
  • [06:00:32] <hitlin37> don't have any at the moment
  • [06:02:17] <hitlin37> i took the clone example ,dispaly 0 as dvi-d dispaly 1 to tv,and followed all the steps,in the end ,even my dvi-d display also gone
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  • [06:23:41] <ds2> what kernel?
  • [06:29:21] <hitlin37> 2.6.32
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  • [06:48:38] <ds2> from L-O?
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  • [06:58:47] <russ> I was really hoping to type in a WPA phrase
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  • [07:05:56] <ds2> russ: console on the main screen?
  • [07:06:23] <russ> ya
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  • [07:07:01] <ds2> WOW, I must try that :D
  • [07:07:19] <ds2> been meaning to find a flash free UI for that thing
  • [07:07:25] <russ> do you ever have a problem with the button on the top?
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  • [07:13:10] <ds2> problem? no but it does seem to be rather useless other then to enter their normal UI
  • [07:13:24] <russ> sometimes it does nothing until I powercycle the device
  • [07:16:22] <ds2> do you have the soft one or the hard one?
  • [07:16:31] <russ> the hard one
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  • [07:18:41] <ds2> same one as I have... can't say I have seen what you describe.
  • [07:18:57] <ds2> which screens are you trying the snooze bar?
  • [07:19:09] <russ> just when its going through its channels
  • [07:19:26] <russ> when it doesn't respond to the channel button, the widgets are also *very* sluggish
  • [07:21:15] <ds2> I don't use the channels; I just use it as a very programmable alarm clock
  • [07:21:31] <ds2> I suspect flash might be foobar'ed
  • [07:22:28] <ds2> are you running a 'registered' device?
  • [07:22:38] <russ> I did register it with chumby.com
  • [07:23:06] <ds2> wonder if something sinster is going on ;)
  • [07:23:17] <russ> seems doubtful
  • [07:23:36] <ds2> get a shell, run top when that happens... you got ssh setup with it?
  • [07:23:54] <russ> not yet, but it would only take a few seconds to set it up
  • [07:24:24] <ds2> I am convinced the way to go is to ditch flash all together
  • [07:24:49] <ds2> but I am not sure it isn't just easier to get a beagleboard rigged up to to serve a similar function.
  • [07:25:15] <russ> that would be quite an upgrade
  • [07:25:56] <ds2> going flash free? :D
  • [07:26:13] <russ> no, using an omap3
  • [07:27:45] <ds2> okay, how about throwing an N800 in there
  • [07:27:47] <ds2> ?
  • [07:27:50] <ds2> a OMAP2 :D
  • [07:31:33] <russ> odd..shoutcast and a number of other things disappeared
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  • [07:34:44] <russ> odd, it thought it wasn't connected, but still happily played pandora radio
  • [07:36:29] <koen> argh
  • [07:36:30] <ds2> sounds like it is trying to do something sinster
  • [07:36:32] <koen> I need more coffee
  • [07:36:43] <koen> just spent 20 minutes trying to figure out why it doesn't boot
  • [07:36:47] <ds2> koen: you need a pile of chocolate covered expresso beans
  • [07:36:59] <koen> then I noticed it's a B6, not an xM, so passing mem=384M won't work
  • [07:37:55] <kblin> hehe
  • [07:38:53] <kblin> would be a neat way to triple the ram if it did work ;)
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  • [07:39:55] <ds2> <-- would not be surprised if koen had a B6 looking board where that worked ;)
  • [07:40:23] <venkat> Hi all can anyone please guide me from where i can get the Linux kernel for my BEAGLE BOARD?
  • [07:40:35] <kblin> true
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  • [07:43:46] <koen> ds2: I have one with 256M :)
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  • [07:44:50] <ds2> only? ;)
  • [07:44:53] <russ> venkat, have you tried typing "beagle board" into google?
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  • [07:51:52] <koen> russ, google doesn't work in india
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  • [07:52:18] <av500> there is always lycos
  • [07:52:27] <venkat> hi koen
  • [07:52:47] <venkat> google works here
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  • [08:22:11] <koen> florian: can you give apache2 a kick?
  • [08:22:25] <florian> koen: sure
  • [08:22:40] <koen> thanks
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  • [09:45:53] <BusError> Following http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Upgrade_X-loader_and_U-boot it seems my beagleboard is now bricked -- any insight ? won't get into the u-boot thst was there before
  • [09:46:18] <av500> bricked is unlikely
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  • [09:46:40] <BusError> as in "requiring a jtag cable and 2 hours" bricked ;=)
  • [09:47:08] <av500> BusError: boot from sd card
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  • [09:47:53] <BusError> I made the SD card using the instructions, but of course I can;t tell what it's doing at boottime since the ttyACME is not there yet..
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  • [09:48:09] <dedalus> hello
  • [09:49:40] <av500> BusError: well, the use the serial
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  • [09:49:58] <dedalus> I've a beagleboard xm and I'm little bit confused with the use of usb0 interface
  • [09:50:17] <dedalus> as forcing a static adress I can't ping it
  • [09:51:00] <dedalus> I'm using the demo image of ubuntu
  • [09:51:12] <dedalus> do i have to load g_ether ?
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  • [10:16:47] <mru> av500: that mark guy on the ml really likes you :-)
  • [10:17:08] <av500> yep
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  • [10:22:52] <av500> mru: oh noes, now he will "look you up" too
  • [10:23:38] <mru> let him
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  • [10:35:51] <koen> maybe he'll call mru a gamer as well
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  • [10:36:28] <mru> who is he anyway?
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  • [10:41:27] * BusError made a serial adapter using 2 pieces of loose wire he had handy
  • [10:41:42] <BusError> upgrade script worked
  • [10:47:15] <koen> mru: apparently he's going to work for TI dallas
  • [10:47:31] <mru> oh dear
  • [10:47:41] <koen> maybe he'll be made main contact for archos
  • [10:47:47] <Crofton|work> someone needs to talk with him ....
  • [10:47:54] <Crofton|work> about list behavior
  • [10:48:02] <av500> koen: I look forward to that
  • [10:48:04] <Crofton|work> I mean, occasionally flamge and trolling is ok
  • [10:48:10] <Crofton|work> but incessant spamming is crap
  • [10:48:14] <koen> av500: "fire mark of we'll go freescale"
  • [10:48:16] <Crofton|work> funny how that works
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  • [11:08:07] <Crofton|work> apparently he is an "arm device driver consultant"
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  • [11:15:15] <DaveDavenport> howdy
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  • [11:18:30] <Sonny80> hi all
  • [11:19:59] <Sonny80> can someone understand me - am i need to flash NAND ofBB rev C4 for Ubuntu installation?
  • [11:21:13] <av500> no, boot from SD
  • [11:21:55] <Sonny80> to boot from SD i need to push USER button?
  • [11:22:04] <av500> yep
  • [11:22:27] <Sonny80> thank you - you turn the light in my mind :)
  • [11:23:36] <Sonny80> so i need to burn NAND only if want to boot from SD without push button?
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  • [11:24:34] <av500> you can put MLO and uboot in nand
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  • [11:24:56] <av500> you can also erase the nand and just boot from SD, without button
  • [11:25:13] <Sonny80> oh it's nice!
  • [11:26:37] <Sonny80> I also need help with SDHC selection. Am I need to buy class10 card for good performance?
  • [11:26:40] <Crofton|work> don't listen to av500, he knows nothing about arm stuff :)
  • [11:26:59] <Sonny80> omg!
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  • [11:28:54] <Sonny80> I read http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu but it's to complicated for newbie... My head is overheated :)
  • [11:30:15] <Sonny80> Crofton|work: what's wrong in av500 statements?
  • [11:32:14] <_koen_> heh
  • [11:32:19] <_koen_> sounds like friday
  • [11:32:59] <Sonny80> 3 days to friday
  • [11:34:31] <Crofton|work> Sonny80, we are joking
  • [11:34:55] <Crofton|work> some guy on the ml said av500 doesn't know anything :)
  • [11:35:01] <Sonny80> ok :)
  • [11:35:19] <Sonny80> so what about SDHC selection help? :)
  • [11:36:20] <johnnyg> is anyone here able to get the DSP working using dspbrdige on linux-omap?
  • [11:39:20] <Crofton|work> I know people who have it running with dsplink and some of the TI libs
  • [11:40:11] <Crofton|work> anyone know if I there is a linaro gcc bug report about the atomic intrinsics sucking for armv6 and up?
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  • [11:40:31] <Crofton|work> search says nothing
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  • [11:44:17] <koen> Crofton|work: suck as in slow, or as in non-atomic?
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  • [11:45:49] <Crofton|work> slow
  • [11:45:59] <Crofton|work> they do not appear to use ldrex/strex
  • [11:46:18] <Crofton|work> gcc has generix versions that work for all arm
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  • [11:50:01] <koen> Crofton|work: you pass an march/mcpu that is v6 or above?
  • [11:51:38] <Rajah> Any idea why my beagle search tool has stopped showing results from other partitions?
  • [11:51:48] <av500> wrong channel
  • [11:51:55] <ssvb> Crofton, are these using kernel helpers?
  • [11:52:10] <Rajah> sorry..
  • [11:52:18] <av500> Beagle search tools are on #dashboard at irc.gimp.org, NOT here ;-)"
  • [11:52:31] <Rajah> right..
  • [11:52:57] <Crofton|work> it look slike they use the kernel helper for cmpxchg
  • [11:53:20] <ssvb> do you have a link to this bug in bugzilla?
  • [11:54:28] <Rajah> I am using webchat on http://webchat.freenode.net/ is it possible to join #dashboard from here?
  • [11:54:58] <ssvb> Crofton, I would assume they might be afraid that everything would break if you link different armv5 and armv6 optimized object file together that may access the same atomic variable
  • [11:56:02] <ssvb> Crofton, that is if your kernel for some reason does not use ldrex/strex in the kernel helper
  • [11:56:39] <ssvb> Crofton, anyway, I would like to add myself to CC for that bug
  • [11:57:15] <av500> Rajah: well no, since freenode.net != gimp.org
  • [11:57:27] <Rajah> ok..
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  • [11:59:09] <Crofton|work> koen, that is with angstrom 2010
  • [11:59:14] <Crofton|work> I read the source even
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  • [11:59:45] <Crofton|work> ssvb, they comments in the commit admit it needs to change :)
  • [12:01:17] <ssvb> Crofton, ok :) I just think that a bug in upstream gcc bugzilla is needed to push things forward
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  • [12:02:59] <ssvb> Crofton, want me to file it for you?
  • [12:03:30] <Crofton|work> sure
  • [12:03:37] <Crofton|work> let me find the referecne
  • [12:03:42] <Crofton|work> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2
  • [12:03:46] <Crofton|work> these people are idiots
  • [12:04:00] <Crofton|work> use the intrinsics over lderx/strex ...
  • [12:04:43] <koen> Crofton|work: you linked to a wiki
  • [12:04:44] <Crofton|work> there are issues with multi-core
  • [12:04:52] <koen> Crofton|work: a ubuntu wiki even
  • [12:05:11] <koen> Crofton|work: of course that contains weird stuff
  • [12:05:31] <ssvb> maybe they just want to be portable (work on other platforms) and support older arm hardware?
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  • [12:05:46] <Crofton|work> sure
  • [12:05:52] <Crofton|work> then we can stop using NEON etc
  • [12:06:04] * Crofton|work is looking for the commit
  • [12:07:34] <ssvb> Crofton, just keeping portable code parts and platform specific optimizations clearly separated helps
  • [12:07:54] <Crofton|work> but that is a problem for gcc to hide for ur
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  • [12:11:10] <ssvb> Crofton: additionally, with the direct use of ldrex/strex, gcc would need to know whether we are compiling code for SMP system or not
  • [12:11:41] <Crofton|work> ok ....
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  • [12:14:36] <jkridner|work> good morning all
  • [12:15:08] <Sonny80> good evening
  • [12:15:49] <Crofton|work> ssvb, these are problems that need to be solved
  • [12:16:22] <Crofton|work> http://pastebin.com/urcWVPC7
  • [12:16:31] <Crofton|work> is from the patch that was backported in OE
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  • [12:31:56] <XorA> Crofton|work: make OEDEM wifi free so work gets done :-D
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  • [12:32:55] <Crofton|work> hopefully RP thought of that
  • [12:33:23] <Crofton|work> my main concern is making sure we can run gobby for minutes :)
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  • [12:36:10] <koen> Crofton|work, XorA: can you ack my kernel.bbclass changes I really want them in so I can push the stuf that's depending on it
  • [12:36:32] <Crofton|work> no one seems to have any issues
  • [12:36:35] <mru> ssvb: why?
  • [12:36:43] <Crofton|work> and you did answer eFfeM_work's comments
  • [12:36:48] <mru> ldrex/strex works on any system
  • [12:37:32] <Crofton|work> mrc3, it seems like you need some additional memory bariers for smp systems
  • [12:37:48] <Crofton|work> although even with these, I would expect better perfomance than using a kernel helper
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  • [12:38:09] <mru> a cache-coherent system shouldn't need explicit memory barriers
  • [12:38:13] <eFfeM_work> koen, let me have a new peek at them, don't think there are any issues though
  • [12:38:21] * XorA hasnt read any OE emails for days
  • [12:38:22] <eFfeM_work> XorA: and agree with wifi-free :-)
  • [12:38:37] <Crofton|work> nothing is free :)
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  • [12:38:50] <Crofton|work> I'll rty to catch wifi
  • [12:38:58] <Crofton|work> we may need a wifi sponsor :)
  • [12:39:45] <XorA> just go to McDonalds
  • [12:40:07] <koen> sadly ipass VPNs straight into TI, otherwise I could have shared the wifi
  • [12:40:08] <mru> their wifi has about the same quality as their "food"
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  • [12:41:07] <eFfeM_work> might have misunderstood the wifi remark: "make OEDEM wifi free so work gets done"; I read this as no wifi to avoid people are doing all kind of other things
  • [12:41:08] <XorA> mru: porn is alwasy a little dirty anyway :-D
  • [12:41:25] <XorA> eFfeM_work: you read correctly
  • [12:42:21] <eFfeM_work> XorA: ah ok thought i musunderstood after reading about wifi sponsor or so
  • [12:42:45] <eFfeM_work> we'll give 10 minute wifi breaks, just like in other meetings they have short breaks for smokers
  • [12:42:47] <eFfeM_work> :-)
  • [12:42:57] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [12:43:11] <Crofton|work> eFfeM_work, normally we use gobby for minutes
  • [12:43:19] <Crofton|work> so there is an official purpose
  • [12:43:23] <eFfeM_work> ah ok
  • [12:43:27] * eFfeM_work does not know gobby
  • [12:43:41] <XorA> Crofton|work: that doesnt need internet access though :-D
  • [12:43:48] <Crofton|work> and we may need to ask people questions who are not present
  • [12:44:06] <XorA> hmmm, I fell for that trick last year :-D
  • [12:44:27] <Crofton|work> rofl
  • [12:44:57] <XorA> have a feeling that was while dumping girlfriend as well
  • [12:47:17] <Crofton|work> yeah, I think so
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  • [12:48:02] <Crofton|work> I owe you a bottle of run
  • [12:48:09] <Crofton|work> rum
  • [12:49:43] <XorA> Crofton|work: bring me a bottle of Black Seal 151 :-D
  • [12:51:11] <Crofton|work> do they have that in duty free?
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  • [12:51:31] <XorA> They do in some bigger places
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  • [12:51:57] <Crofton|work> http://www.internetwines.com/rws24482.html
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  • [12:52:25] <XorA> Crofton|work: thats the job
  • [12:52:41] <XorA> :-D
  • [12:53:16] * XorA lost quite a few hours of life due to that stuff :-D
  • [12:53:43] <Crofton|work> heh
  • [12:53:57] <Crofton|work> I'll look, can't find any websites for the futy free stores in PHL
  • [12:54:34] <XorA> duty free in western world seems to be dieing :-(
  • [12:54:57] <XorA> almost all I been to recently have pretty much been smirnoff and crappy whiskey
  • [12:55:20] <ssvb> mru: http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.faqs/ka14041.html
  • [12:56:41] <ssvb> mru: kernel helpers code uses barriers if CONFIG_SMP is defined
  • [12:57:13] <mru> yeah, I see the barrier requirement in the manual now
  • [12:57:14] <ssvb> mru: but I have not worked with ARM SMP systems yet, so I'm not totally confident about this subject
  • [12:57:38] <mru> the actual synchronisation doesn't need the barrier
  • [12:57:52] <mru> but it's required to ensure other memory accesses happen in the right order
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  • [12:58:12] <eFfeM_work> koen, ack's send, only a nit left on renaming the function so it starts with kernel_ but can live with the current name :-)
  • [12:58:24] <mru> otherwise a store could be reordered to happen before the lock is taken
  • [12:58:31] <mru> or after it is released
  • [12:58:47] <mru> or load of course
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  • [12:59:17] <venkat> hello all
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  • [12:59:24] <Crofton|work> my point is the code would benefit from a ldrex/strex implementation
  • [12:59:40] <Crofton|work> and if people are spanding money on compilers, this should be on the list :)
  • [12:59:43] <mru> sure
  • [12:59:44] <venkat> i am working on beagleboard
  • [12:59:51] <mru> dmb costs way less than a syscall
  • [13:00:03] <Crofton|work> mru, exactly
  • [13:00:16] <venkat> kernel from rowboat-android
  • [13:00:21] <Crofton|work> so even a conservative ldrex/strex implementation is an improvement
  • [13:00:23] <venkat> 2.6.32
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  • [13:00:40] <ssvb> mru: kernel helpers are not syscalls, that's just some chunk of code at a fixed address
  • [13:01:01] <ssvb> mru: it's mapped into each process
  • [13:01:24] <venkat> i was build the this kernel with arm-2007q1 toolchain
  • [13:01:36] <Crofton|work> ssvb, in this case, it might go to a syscall
  • [13:01:53] <venkat> i was able port on beagleboard
  • [13:01:58] <XorA> bah still another 6 months before Pandora, getting bored now
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  • [13:02:34] <joe_tessler> XorA: I recognize that name. Did you write the SDcard format script? That was the only way I could get my first board to boot up yesterday.
  • [13:03:02] <XorA> that was me
  • [13:03:08] <venkat> hello
  • [13:03:29] <joe_tessler> Thanks! I slaved over the board all weekend until I used that script.
  • [13:03:41] <venkat> i got problem in touchscreen
  • [13:03:46] * XorA doesnt slave, just gets even
  • [13:03:48] <venkat> in devkit8000
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  • [13:05:05] <venkat> please any one knows about it tell me hoe to go head
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  • [13:10:36] * XorA wonders where his beagleXM cluster is :-D
  • [13:11:50] <Crofton|work> you need a stagecoach
  • [13:12:32] <venkat> hello i was facing the problem on touchscreen in devkit8000 ,but lcd display is working.my kernel is from rowboat-android,but i did compile this kernel with arm-2007q1,and also audio not comming.please give me suggestion how to solve this on.thank you in advance.and this kernel image beagleboard working fine audio.
  • [13:12:56] <av500> venkat: tried #rowboat ?
  • [13:13:52] <venkat> thank you av500
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  • [13:14:56] <XorA> Crofton|work: how does a bus company help?
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  • [13:22:25] <jkridner|work1> I just updated http://beagleboard.org/buyxM/ with additional distributors.
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  • [13:23:59] <av500> jkridner|work1: you did not add my local electronics shop here...
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  • [13:24:23] <jkridner|work1> av500: does your local electronics shop have any BeagleBoard-xMs?
  • [13:24:43] <av500> jkridner|work1: how could they, you did not send them any :)
  • [13:24:47] <jkridner|work1> :)
  • [13:24:57] <jkridner|work1> well, you know my e-mail address. :)
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  • [13:30:56] <joe_tessler> hello all, I have an idea for the project competiton and I was hoping I could get some feedback this morning
  • [13:31:11] <jkridner|work1> joe_tessler: just tell us.
  • [13:31:43] <joe_tessler> I want to expand the sound card usage, and possibly hardware, to create a music production unit
  • [13:32:04] <jkridner|work1> you want to add extra audio codecs?
  • [13:32:20] <joe_tessler> If that would be required, yes
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  • [13:32:32] <jkridner|work1> I know there was someone at the open hardware summit building an audio daughterboard that looked interesting.
  • [13:32:49] <jkridner|work1> joe_tessler: I think you need more details to what is interesting about your music production unit.
  • [13:32:52] <joe_tessler> I'll be sure to look around for that one
  • [13:33:41] <joe_tessler> jkridner|work1: I want to focus on the software side - building the interface for the musician to easily record/distort his sound
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  • [13:35:04] <XorA> joe_tessler: I have a friend doing that in android
  • [13:35:25] <joe_tessler> XorA: using the BeagleBoard?
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  • [13:35:34] <XorA> joe_tessler: yes, I gave him one of mine
  • [13:36:03] <XorA> joe_tessler: he writes synth software for android, search for glastonbridge
  • [13:36:14] <jkridner|work1> joe_tessler: my feeling is that collaboration is fine, as long as it is clear what work you claim as your own.
  • [13:36:16] <joe_tessler> XorA: will do, thank you for the info
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  • [13:37:05] <joe_tessler> jkridner|work1: of course, I'll be sure to give all credit where due and highlight my own work
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  • [13:38:15] <joe_tessler> my initial thought was more of a sampling unit than a synth
  • [13:38:49] <joe_tessler> the user could simply swap out the input line with different sources and record small samples at a time
  • [13:39:04] <joe_tessler> he/she could then choose where to loop each sample
  • [13:39:13] <joe_tessler> and create mixes / new material with ease.
  • [13:39:13] <XorA> joe_tessler: might be an idea for you to see what others work on though, then all pool into a mega music suite rather than lots of unconnected oftwares
  • [13:39:40] <XorA> joe_tessler: isnt that just a tracker?
  • [13:40:30] <XorA> at least your description reminded me of the old amiga trackers and fast tracker :-D
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  • [13:40:30] <joe_tessler> XorA: that would be a better title - but perhaps too simple of a project idea
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  • [13:41:12] <XorA> basically a portable garageband box, that would be actually really quite cool
  • [13:41:25] <joe_tessler> XorA: that's the name I was looking for
  • [13:41:27] <XorA> might even pay $$$ for that toy
  • [13:41:51] <joe_tessler> I picture a very small unit with a 6" display
  • [13:41:55] <joe_tessler> that shows the track
  • [13:42:07] <joe_tessler> and musicians could easily build the song live or in a studio
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  • [13:42:35] <XorA> heh, looks like we are building your spec document right here :-D
  • [13:42:58] <joe_tessler> haha, I've already got a notepad started
  • [13:44:29] <joe_tessler> as I begin building the tracker support, I can look around at the glastonbridge and other available software to add features
  • [13:46:17] <joe_tessler> I'll start my spec with something like this: a portable garageband unit with more advanced features, but focus on simplicity
  • [13:46:27] <joe_tessler> I appreciate the feedback
  • [13:50:12] <joe_tessler> in other new, are there any serial-to-usb brands you would recommend?
  • [13:50:21] <joe_tessler> news*
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  • [13:50:36] <av500> ftdi based
  • [13:51:35] <joe_tessler> av500: good to know, thank you
  • [13:52:20] <XorA> seonded for ftdi based, the plXXXX ones are terrible
  • [13:52:25] <XorA> seconded
  • [13:52:54] <mru> they're all quirky
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  • [13:54:07] <joe_tessler> that's what I keep hearing - they seem to just die at any moment
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  • [13:55:52] <av500> they dont die if left alone
  • [13:56:09] <av500> but connecting and disconnecting on the serial side cause a lot of trouble
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  • [13:56:28] <mru> I've had that happen with both kinds
  • [13:56:42] <av500> I have 4 ftdi on a hub and from time to time when plugging one into a target, I lose them all :(
  • [13:56:57] <av500> and/or the hub
  • [13:59:29] <mru> see
  • [14:00:27] * av500 sees
  • [14:00:51] <av500> next step is optocouplers on the serial side.... sigh
  • [14:01:05] <mru> or the usb side...
  • [14:01:17] <av500> well
  • [14:01:24] * mru wishes usb would die
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  • [14:12:52] * jkridner|work wonders what mru would replace USB with. 1394?
  • [14:13:11] * jkridner|work prefers 1394 to USB from a protocol standpoint--by far.
  • [14:13:18] <mru> anything that works
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  • [14:16:53] <ynezz> more rs232 ports
  • [14:17:44] * av500 wants a working mrusb controller :)
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  • [14:19:04] <av500> see, ppl are asking for firewire on the panda....
  • [14:22:32] <_koen_> give me some napalm and an usb wire
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  • [14:24:43] <jannau> av500: there are 4 contacts firewire - usb cabels on ebay
  • [14:24:53] <jannau> cables
  • [14:26:08] <jannau> apparently someone had lots of firewire connectors laying around
  • [14:26:39] <jannau> or mixed it up with usb miini/micro
  • [14:26:59] <av500> jannau: there are *all* kinds of cables coming from china
  • [14:29:06] <jannau> like vga hdmi cables?
  • [14:29:34] <av500> anything
  • [14:29:38] <av500> usb a to a
  • [14:29:47] <av500> usb a with id pin not on GND
  • [14:30:00] <av500> serial cables with 1-9 and 9-1
  • [14:30:06] <av500> whatever you can imagine
  • [14:30:25] <av500> hdmi cables that break once you unroll them
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  • [14:32:41] <av500> jannau: of course there are strange cables that somebody had made to order
  • [14:32:50] <av500> and the surplus then can end up on ebay
  • [14:33:55] <av500> like USB A-A cables that we used in the past :)
  • [14:36:49] <jannau> I've 2.5" hdd cases with usb a
  • [14:37:22] <av500> nice
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  • [14:42:30] <jannau> it was annoying, used it for data transfer and I said "I don't need the cable" expecting mini usb b
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  • [14:51:33] <dm8tbr> av500: early jb6000 and the external drives?
  • [14:51:39] <av500> yep
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  • [14:54:36] <sakoman> koen: did you realize that my x-load/u-boot/linux recipes use AUTOREV?
  • [14:54:51] <sakoman> you might get a few OE folks cranky about that!
  • [14:54:52] <av500> as long as they dont use autotools....
  • [14:55:32] <sakoman> koen: I use those recipes for day-to-day development and they might not be appropriate for others
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  • [14:56:12] <sakoman> av500: no, no autotools :-)
  • [14:57:00] * Crofton|work slaps koen
  • [14:57:42] <sakoman> koen: also -- I hacked the linux.inc file for a reason: unless those changes are made OMAP4 kernels won't boot :-)
  • [14:58:31] <koen> panda wasn't using autorev :)
  • [14:58:56] <sakoman> koen: right, but it does need the linux.inc change
  • [15:00:21] <sakoman> koen found my secret OE work branch
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  • [15:00:33] * sakoman hopes it doesn't cause trouble :-)
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  • [15:04:44] <koen> sakoman: I couldn't figure out what you changed in the linux.inc, except breaking udev
  • [15:06:21] <sakoman> koen: well, it was either break udev or never get past Uncompressing Linux...
  • [15:06:37] <sakoman> I chose to break udev and later try to deal with that
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  • [15:08:34] <sakoman> for some reason kernels built with ARM_ERRATA_430973 have trouble booting
  • [15:08:48] <sakoman> without it, I get a booting kernel but broken udev
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  • [15:14:06] <sakoman> koen: there's also something funny going on in kernel builds where CONFIG_USB_GADGET_OMAP is getting flipped from not set to y
  • [15:15:02] <sakoman> this is not a good thing since that is an OMAP1/2 driver
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  • [15:24:38] <koen> sakoman: I'm puzzled why the udev stuff breaks booting
  • [15:25:03] <sakoman> have you confirmed it breaks for you too?
  • [15:25:17] <koen> no, hoping to get the panda this week
  • [15:25:26] <koen> no tracking number, though
  • [15:26:16] <topfs2> panda!
  • [15:26:19] * topfs2 excited
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  • [15:26:35] <koen> my project got approved by the secret board
  • [15:26:48] <top200fps> what was your project if I may ask=
  • [15:26:54] <koen> angstrom
  • [15:27:01] <top200fps> ah, awesome!
  • [15:27:17] <koen> there was PEAP and the other one
  • [15:27:30] <koen> I got told the other one would be faster, but more risky
  • [15:28:15] <top200fps> well angstrom on panda will be great
  • [15:28:28] <koen> that's why I was importing sakomans work
  • [15:28:43] <koen> guess I need to find out what the .config problem is
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  • [15:29:47] <tw___> I am having problems getting ubuntu to run on BB
  • [15:30:31] <tw___> Tried method given in http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ARM/PreinstalledImage with no luck
  • [15:30:33] <sakoman> koen: using my recipes might end up being a pain for you since they use repo branches that I rebase all the time, hence my use of AUTOREV
  • [15:31:04] <sakoman> they suit my work flow, but perhaps not that of anyone else!
  • [15:31:27] <koen> sakoman: the checkouts are mirrored already
  • [15:31:43] <sakoman> OK, then you should be fine
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  • [15:33:01] <sakoman> koen: I see that the panda team builds their kernels with ARM_ERRATA_430973 turned off
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  • [15:33:59] <koen> I guess their core is new enough
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  • [15:34:19] <sakoman> koen: also seems that Ubuntu has it off for their omap4 builds
  • [15:34:33] <sakoman> wonder how they work around the udev breakage
  • [15:36:57] <koen> I'll add an extra knob for that mangling
  • [15:37:39] <koen> sakoman: it might be that we need to turn on all 3 erratum fixups, not just this one
  • [15:38:25] <sakoman> koen: I will try that
  • [15:38:26] <av500> udev break due to that?
  • [15:38:39] <sakoman> av500: for some reason, yes
  • [15:40:00] <koen> - if [ "${DISTRO_NAME}" = "Angstrom" ] ; then
  • [15:40:00] <koen> + if [ "${DISTRO_NAME}" = "Angstrom" -o "${CORTEXA8FIXUP}" = "yes"] ; then
  • [15:40:05] <koen> that's what I currently have
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  • [15:45:40] <sakoman> all 3 erratum fixups are turned off in the defconfig
  • [15:46:10] <sakoman> I commented out the part of linux.inc that turned on the one, so all 3 remain off now
  • [15:47:49] <koen> it's off now, so only uboot hangs?
  • [15:48:14] <koen> ehm
  • [15:48:14] <koen> udev
  • [15:48:33] <sakoman> yes, I get strangeness ensuing once udev launches
  • [15:51:37] <sakoman> mostly a hang, but sometimes an oops
  • [15:51:50] <sakoman> if I remove udev, then boot completes
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  • [16:02:38] <ninksink> Howdy folks. Just got my very first beagle board. It is an XM. Could you all be so kind as to guide me to resources that will show me how to install ubuntu unto it and it working with a vga screen that has av touch capability.
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  • [16:02:57] <av500> vga?
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  • [16:14:51] <DaveDavenport> av touch? audio visual touch?
  • [16:15:01] <top200fps> ninksink, elinux has a startup guide afaik
  • [16:15:09] <top200fps> narcissus is great to make a recent build though
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  • [16:17:31] * DaveDavenport has been waiting for narcissus to finish all day
  • [16:17:33] <DaveDavenport> then chrome died
  • [16:18:04] <av500> narcissus > chrome
  • [16:18:35] <emeb> narcissus vs chrome in a 1-on-1 cage match to the death!
  • [16:18:45] <DaveDavenport> firefox4 just fails
  • [16:18:53] <DaveDavenport> if you press the button it just returns
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  • [16:19:59] <emeb> your choice is simple - use ie. :P
  • [16:20:53] <top200fps> i.e. wouldn't even be able to enter the rink, would fall over at the sight of the cage
  • [16:21:10] <emeb> gets a case of the vapors
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  • [16:39:14] <koen> firefox does some "caching"
  • [16:39:20] <koen> which breaks the ajax stuff
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  • [16:50:33] <jkridner|work> I updated the calendar on http://beagleboard.org to point to a Google calendar. Let me know if there should be more entries. You should be able to send an invite that I can accept on behalf of BeagleBoard.org.
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  • [16:52:55] <Jefro> jkridner|work - calendar looks awesome
  • [16:53:10] <jkridner|work> thanks...
  • [16:53:26] <Jefro> I don't know much about google calendars, but feel free to mine my list of open-source conferences: link at http://jefro.wordpress.com/open-source-conferences
  • [16:53:34] <jkridner|work> I'm about to put an entry on there for a weekly meeting on "Linux education" where I'd really like your participation.
  • [16:53:43] <Jefro> cool - IRC meeting?
  • [16:54:11] <jkridner|work> phone calls to try to get things moving quickly at first--then likely to go to IRC to be less invasive.
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  • [16:54:29] <Jefro> sounds good as long as it isn' t 7amPT :)
  • [16:55:05] <jkridner|work> Jefro: the fact that you share your calendar as a google calendar makes it very easy to copy onto the BeagleBoard.org calendar! Thanks!
  • [16:55:27] <jkridner|work> We are looking at 7:30AM PT.... does that help?
  • [16:55:28] <Jefro> ah, good - I need to learn more about it one of these days
  • [16:55:29] <jkridner|work> :(
  • [16:55:40] <Jefro> 7:30am...
  • [16:55:54] <Jefro> not on monday, please let it not be on a monday
  • [16:57:44] <jkridner|work> Jefro: do you not have ELCE on your calendar?
  • [16:57:51] <jkridner|work> Tuesday. :)
  • [16:58:18] <Jefro> ELCE should be there - although I haven't uploaded 2011 stuff yet
  • [16:58:38] <Jefro> I have it all in a big spreadsheet but was waiting for some key dates. I haven't looked at it for a while.
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  • [17:35:17] <koen> Jefro: attending elc-e this month?
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  • [17:38:04] <Jefro> koen: sadly, no
  • [17:38:33] <Jefro> my company was leery of paying for lots of travel even before we merged with a larger hardware company last yeazr
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  • [17:38:58] <Jefro> and I already exceed normal in that category :) I will be at ELC in SF in April, though
  • [17:39:53] <koen> I need to impress tim I guess a ELC-E to get into ELC :)
  • [17:40:04] <koen> I love SF
  • [17:46:05] <emeb> SF is fun as long as you don't have to drive around in it.
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  • [17:49:19] * koen avoids driving abroad like the plague
  • [17:49:49] <koen> couldn't avoid it in germantown, no walkable route to the office
  • [17:51:20] <emeb> germantown md?
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  • [17:53:21] * _av500_ can walk to office in german town
  • [17:53:32] <emeb> ar ar
  • [17:53:49] * emeb used to live in germantown - oh
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  • [17:58:35] <djlewis_> gm guys
  • [17:58:41] <koen> hey djlewis_
  • [17:59:06] <djlewis_> germantown near Memphis is nice
  • [18:00:08] <djlewis_> what a bunch of world travelers in this group :)
  • [18:00:23] <koen> germanton, maryland
  • [18:00:29] <koen> +w
  • [18:00:32] <djlewis_> av500: mmMmm pizza :)
  • [18:01:34] <djlewis_> sf is a real nice place to visit
  • [18:02:22] <emeb> gm djlewis_
  • [18:03:07] <koen> archos coverage on engadget
  • [18:03:16] <emeb> ooh ooh!
  • [18:03:36] <koen> no ds5 in the coverage, though
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  • [18:03:51] <emeb> :)
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  • [18:08:08] <GooglyGabe> Hey everyone. I have an xM board running Lucid and had some questions about getting hardware graphics acceleration going. Is this the right place to ask this or should I go to the google group?
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  • [18:10:53] <ninksink> Googly, rad, was it difficult to put lucid on your XM? That is one of my goals as well.
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  • [18:11:36] <GooglyGabe> ninksink: The instructions were quite confusing, but after wading through them it's actually very simple if you already have an Ubuntu machine.
  • [18:12:01] <GooglyGabe> I just used the prebuilt image.
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  • [18:12:40] <ninksink> What is the best way to ground oneself when physically handling a beagle board? I have a anti-static strap and when I work on PCs I connect it to the casing. What is the best practice with a beagle?
  • [18:13:00] <jonpry> humidity
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  • [18:13:04] <djlewis_> one of the exosed metal parts
  • [18:13:35] <mru> stuff doesn't fry nearly as easily as people seem to think
  • [18:13:39] <ninksink> thanks djlewis_
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  • [18:13:42] <djlewis_> or one of those screw mtg holes
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  • [18:14:52] <GooglyGabe> So this page (http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#SGX_Video_Acceleration) says that I need the 2.6-stable kernel from launchpad to get the SGX acceleration. If I installed Ubuntu from the image does anyone know if it has that already?
  • [18:15:10] <djlewis_> I walk up to things here at the office and get static jolts that burn
  • [18:15:48] <jonpry> looks like you need a humidifier
  • [18:16:17] <jonpry> :p
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  • [18:17:29] <djlewis_> yeah, just got a thunderstorm :)
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  • [18:20:15] <djlewis_> propped open the doors to let some of that humidity in :)
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  • [18:52:16] * _av500_ thinks that static electricty was invented by 3M in order to sell plastic bags
  • [18:53:11] <ninksink> I just did the first two steps of the Beginners guide and when I tried the Serial connection I got the following
  • [18:53:34] <ninksink> Booting from ramdisk (this is a micro sd card that came with it)
  • [18:53:57] <ninksink> Image Name: Angstrom/2.6.32/beagleboard
  • [18:53:59] <ninksink> [...]
  • [18:54:11] <_av500_> pastebin.com please
  • [18:54:35] <djlewis_> anticipation is killing me
  • [18:54:46] <koen> not the pizza?
  • [18:54:49] <ninksink> [ 492.196563] --- [ end trace 23112fb98ea45f3a ] ---
  • [18:55:03] <djlewis_> rofl
  • [18:55:19] <ninksink> [ 492.203948] Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
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  • [18:56:39] <hypercube31> ninksink, paste the entire contents (if you can) to this site: http://pastebin.com/
  • [18:56:51] <hypercube31> ninksink, then it will give you a link to paste in here to reference your issue
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  • [19:00:59] <ninksink> Ok, sorry for posting my kernel panic to irc. Here, is the full dump http://pastebin.com/PtNZGe8S
  • [19:01:41] <ninksink> I am totally new to IRC. Sorry for being a bit naive. Thx for any and all help.
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  • [19:10:12] <_av500_> ninksink: usb powered?
  • [19:10:15] <_av500_> power it from 5v
  • [19:10:32] <_av500_> there is a known bug that makes it crash it you bot it usb powered and connected to the pc
  • [19:10:44] <_av500_> bot->boot
  • [19:11:10] <ninksink> Aaaaa. Thank you sir
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  • [19:13:50] <_av500_> did it work?
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  • [19:19:32] <Psyx> Hello, I am trying to get angstrom to work with my Belkin 54g wireless adapter. If I do ifconfig -a, I see usb0 and wlan0.. which would it be?
  • [19:19:47] <_av500_> wlan
  • [19:20:15] <Psyx> gotcha
  • [19:20:36] <Psyx> if I do ifup wlan0, I get this: ifup: ignoring unknown interface wlan0
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  • [19:21:00] <Psyx> is there some form of config I need to do?
  • [19:22:09] <killring> there are some comments in /etc/network/interfaces that might be helpful
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  • [19:24:25] <Psyx> the only comments I see in there are: # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface
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  • [19:27:20] <killring> ah... I'm running the demo image which has comments... I'll post a paste of it
  • [19:27:33] <emeb> maybe try doing the ifconfig by hand?
  • [19:28:17] <Psyx> as in ifconfig down etc?
  • [19:28:33] <killring> http://paste.lisp.org/+2H2Z
  • [19:28:40] <emeb> as in 'ifconfig wlan0 192.168.xx.xx ...'
  • [19:29:41] <Psyx> oh, let me give that a try
  • [19:29:56] <Psyx> killring: yeah, mine ends after the 4th line there
  • [19:30:02] <Psyx> comments or code for that matter
  • [19:30:28] <killring> if your wireless network is secured, you'll definitely need to modify the interfaces file
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  • [19:31:06] <emeb> or use iwconfig to setup the specific wireless parameters
  • [19:31:07] <Psyx> i'm trying to get it running on unsecured for now
  • [19:31:44] <emeb> does the belkin adapter need a firmware download?
  • [19:31:51] <Psyx> I issued iwconfig wlan0 essid
  • [19:31:51] <emeb> (some usb wifi dongles do)
  • [19:32:01] <Psyx> I mean, during boot up I saw it get recognized
  • [19:32:10] <Psyx> how would I determine if FW needs to be downloaded?
  • [19:32:26] <emeb> the driver requests firmware from the kernel during boot
  • [19:32:37] <emeb> you'll see it in dmesg
  • [19:33:02] <djlewis_> I issued iwconfig wlan0 essid accesspoint-name
  • [19:33:27] <djlewis_> hmmm copied too much there.
  • [19:33:42] <djlewis_> Psyx: did you enter the essid name?
  • [19:33:56] <Psyx> yes
  • [19:34:22] <Psyx> it's an ad-hoc connection though, would essid be the right parameter?
  • [19:35:35] <Psyx> also, here's my dmesg http://pastebin.com/6r66Rzgr, you can see it recognizing usb 1-2, and later in between a couple of I/O errors, you can see usbcore: registered new interface driver rt73usb,
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  • [19:36:46] <emeb> [ ?? 62.599395] rt73usb 1-2:1.0: firmware: requesting rt73.bin
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  • [19:37:02] <emeb> did you put the firmware in the right place?
  • [19:37:05] <ds2> morning
  • [19:37:11] <emeb> gm ds2
  • [19:37:14] <_av500_> ds2: gm
  • [19:37:56] <Psyx> emeb: I didn't actually get any firmware, everything is from the angstrom distrib file
  • [19:38:00] <ds2> _av500_: how long are you staying?
  • [19:38:13] <Psyx> that line, requesting rt73.bin, essentially is asking me to get the firmware?
  • [19:38:33] <emeb> Psyx: you'll need to extract the firmware from the WinXX driver disk you got with your wifi dongle
  • [19:38:45] <emeb> then save it in the /lib/firmware directory
  • [19:38:55] <ds2> ralink might provide rt73.bin part of the linux ref driver
  • [19:39:02] <_av500_> ds2: arriving on the 20th afternoon
  • [19:39:10] <_av500_> leaving 24th round 4-5
  • [19:39:26] <ds2> so you're doing an early thing
  • [19:39:32] <gustavoz> http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/rt73usb -> follow the ralink URL in the firmware section
  • [19:40:04] <_av500_> ds2: yep
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  • [19:41:00] <_av500_> ds2: i just learned I need to be some otherplace 25th evening
  • [19:41:17] <ds2> _av500_: gotcha
  • [19:41:31] <Psyx> gustavoz: i grabbed it and extracted it, it has the rt73.bin
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  • [19:41:41] <_av500_> so it will be 4 returns flight with the retuns not taken...
  • [19:41:42] <ds2> _av500_: got a sight seeing itenary setup for the days before?
  • [19:41:43] <Psyx> I just put that in /lib/firmware, correct?
  • [19:41:52] <gustavoz> Psyx: yes
  • [19:41:57] <_av500_> ds2: not really, been to sfo before
  • [19:42:02] <ds2> i.e tour of the BA area superfund sites ;)
  • [19:42:05] <dancios> Hi!
  • [19:42:19] <_av500_> ds2: but open for suggestions
  • [19:42:37] <ds2> _av500_: you time to rent a car and visit places further out
  • [19:42:56] * emeb likes muir woods
  • [19:43:07] <emeb> or hwy 1
  • [19:43:20] <ds2> PCH is fun driving
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  • [19:43:28] <_av500_> pch?
  • [19:43:41] <emeb> hwy 1 = pacific coast hwy
  • [19:43:45] <_av500_> ah
  • [19:44:05] <emeb> start in SF, head south thru coastal towns.
  • [19:44:10] <ds2> strictly speaking, CA1 in the LA area... but I am using it loosely
  • [19:44:24] <dancios> I've got small question is it possible to encode with beagle-xm in real time h.264 from some camera put stream by gstreamer and than use gst-rtsp-server ? 480p/720p ?
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  • [19:44:42] <ds2> if you start in SF, bring lunch and water... services stop after about Carmel and you'll have to get to cambria to get supplies
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  • [19:44:51] <Steven> When using the beagleboard with the trainer board where are the SPI interface things? http://elinux.org/images/b/b6/Trainer2.jpg Is it the 12 slots below the prototype area?
  • [19:44:58] <_av500_> ds2: been to carmel too :)
  • [19:45:20] <ds2> _av500_: what about the aquarium?
  • [19:45:47] <_av500_> yep
  • [19:46:10] <_av500_> and i been to the pyramid fry's as well :)
  • [19:46:30] <_av500_> or was it the mayan one...
  • [19:46:39] <emeb> we've got a mayan frys in PHX too.
  • [19:46:49] <ds2> there is both
  • [19:46:55] * _av500_ was disappointed in Fry's
  • [19:46:58] <emeb> someone once painted the serpent fangs red
  • [19:47:04] <ds2> mayan might be the smaller one
  • [19:47:10] <ds2> try the anaheim frys
  • [19:47:29] <_av500_> http://www.flickr.com/photos/av500/3728836641/in/set-72157621595152838/
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  • [19:48:42] <_av500_> well, i will not drive sf to la for fry's..
  • [19:49:05] <emeb> why disappointed? not enough junk? prices too high?
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  • [19:50:29] <ds2> heh
  • [19:50:35] <ds2> _av500_: have you done the NP's?
  • [19:51:19] <_av500_> ds2: some
  • [19:51:37] <_av500_> emeb: dunno, felt like a random computer store here
  • [19:52:06] <ds2> what about the fermented local grapes?
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  • [19:52:12] <_av500_> not yet :)
  • [19:53:24] <dancios> is it posible for beagleboard to encode h.264/MP4 to stream in realtime ?
  • [19:53:32] <_av500_> depends
  • [19:53:39] <_av500_> (tm)
  • [19:54:24] <dancios> 480p is enough and it will be build with beagle-xm
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  • [19:55:58] <koen> did you check the gstreamer-ti specs?
  • [19:56:59] <Psyx> any idea if I can transmit a file thru the serial connection using hyper terminal to the SD card plugged into the beagleboard?
  • [19:57:13] <Psyx> (teammate ran off with linux laptop, and I need to get a file on the ext3 partition)
  • [19:59:45] <dancios> koen: they said thai i can put strem from gstlaunch, v4l2 and gst-rtsp-server using it but i don't konow is it posible(which linux kernel/distro) to use those dsp (TM) technology on other platfom that EvalutaionBoard
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  • [20:00:40] <dancios> and i dont know if i can put 10fps on it to stream by wifi to cental server in real time
  • [20:01:07] <koen> on beagle if you want to use dsp angstrom is the only choice
  • [20:01:18] <_av500_> or home brew :)
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  • [20:05:03] <Psyx> Alright, so I have rt73.bin in /lib/firmware
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  • [20:07:26] <Psyx> but when I do modprobe rt73, I get FATAL: Module rt73 not found.
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  • [20:08:00] <_av500_> so you might not have the module
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  • [20:08:53] <Psyx> how can I check for that?
  • [20:11:20] <dancios> second question :) i'm building comunication between group of auto-nomous robots and comunication center (area100m). i will be using wi-fi 802.11g/n and stream video and audio to server to backup video data via gstreamer(h.264 or mp4 becouse 8-10robo) i need +-RT video encding via DSP . What wi-fi camera card do you sugest. Small budget is important ^^ You said that angstrom distro is the best choice ?
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  • [20:12:32] <Psyx> hmm, need to leave for class. bbl
  • [20:12:35] <Psyx> thanks for the help
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  • [20:20:38] <emeb> modprobe failed because the module is named 'rt73usb'.
  • [20:20:50] <emeb> plus, it's already loaded at boot time - no need for modprobe
  • [20:21:40] <dancios> emeb: what kind of wi-fi module you suggest for beagle ?
  • [20:22:05] <emeb> dancios: the sarcastic answer is 'one that works' :)
  • [20:22:21] <emeb> I've got a generic RT8188
  • [20:22:23] <emeb> works fine
  • [20:22:45] <emeb> ralink seems well regarded though
  • [20:23:03] <koen> rtl8187 and rt3070 over here
  • [20:23:11] <djlewis_> sarcastic but so true
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  • [20:24:47] <dancios> rt8188 is draft n ?
  • [20:27:21] <GooglyGabe> Have any of you guys tried installing the drivers for a Phidgets sensor on a beagleboard? I'm attempting to do so now, but getting internal compiler errors...
  • [20:27:50] <dancios> any experience with budget camera and live streaming and encoding ? :)
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  • [20:31:39] <emeb> dancios: packaging on the RTL8188 says it's N, but my router isn't so I don't know for certain.
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  • [20:33:51] <dancios> i'm fighting with project and looking for some camera for project right now i know answer RT8188 XD
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  • [20:41:37] <ynezz> dancios: I'm using Belkin F6D4050v2 USB
  • [20:41:51] <ynezz> {USB_DEVICE(0x050d,0x935b)}, /* Belkin F6D4050v2 */
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  • [20:44:53] <GooglyGabe> Hmm. So rerunning ./configure seems to have stopped my build from resulting in internal compiler errors.
  • [20:45:04] <Deformative> Hello.
  • [20:45:08] <GooglyGabe> That seems pretty suspicious. Could my board be overheating?
  • [20:45:15] <Deformative> Has anyone here managed to get performance counters working on the beagleboard?
  • [20:46:34] <dancios> any camera recomendation for beagle ?
  • [20:47:14] <_av500_> any uvc webcam?
  • [20:47:43] <djlewis_> there are troublesome uvc models
  • [20:47:55] <_av500_> djlewis_: you are the expert
  • [20:48:05] <djlewis_> hardly
  • [20:48:38] <djlewis_> http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices
  • [20:49:03] <dancios> somewhere i find crealtive live cam Optia but other more optimal suggestions
  • [20:49:24] <djlewis_> dancios: ^^^
  • [20:49:55] <ynezz> I've logitech c600 and works fine
  • [20:50:12] <GooglyGabe> Is there a temperature sensor on the beagleboard? Mine is acting pretty suspicious.
  • [20:50:16] <GooglyGabe> (xM)
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  • [20:50:53] * buZz is considering one of those seagate dockstar
  • [20:51:07] <djlewis_> dancios: are you using beagleboard XM's?
  • [20:51:42] <dancios> djlewis_: yes i want to buy this ones for my thesis :)
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  • [20:52:07] <djlewis_> dancios: then look into the Leopard Board cams that plug onto it.
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  • [20:52:42] <dancios> djlewis_: also looking for for this kind power solution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z80_jQTdX2g
  • [20:53:00] <djlewis_> I know soem early BB XM testers tried the leopard Board
  • [20:53:55] <dancios> i've got problem that i must encode video strems to h.264 and streaming them to video server
  • [20:57:59] <negril> videosize
  • [20:58:00] <negril> ?
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  • [21:07:05] <jedix> is there any truth in this: http://e2e.ti.com/support/dsp/omap_applications_processors/f/447/p/60489/217365.aspx
  • [21:07:44] <jedix> I'm not getting any usb devices detected on my C4 booting off mmc
  • [21:10:02] <ynezz> maybe if you provide more details, somebody could help you
  • [21:10:56] <jedix> I'll try..
  • [21:11:05] <ynezz> or start here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [21:11:08] <jedix> I get "unable to enumerate" message if the device is plugged in _after_ the board boots. if it is plugged in during, I get nothing.
  • [21:11:31] <ynezz> well, mlo, u-boot, kernel version is enough
  • [21:12:00] <ninksink> _av500_, has been a great help.
  • [21:13:31] <jedix> I've tried mlo/u-boot that came on the C4 nand, as well as ones I got that were supposed to fix the usb power issue described on the webpage http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard
  • [21:13:43] <ninksink> We got our little beagle board XM up and running. She came with angstrom. She connected to ethernet like a champ, nice to see a similar networking setup to debian/ubuntu.
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  • [21:14:11] <ynezz> jedix: try the latest from the link I gave you, mlo, uboot, uimage and if it doesn't work, come back
  • [21:14:17] <jedix> the kernel is a custom kernel.. I might be missing an option in the config
  • [21:14:20] <ninksink> Now our goal is lucid, wireless and GUI, and chromium or chrome.
  • [21:14:24] <jedix> okay
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  • [21:32:58] <GooglyGabe> So my xM board has become extremely flakey. Random commands hang and segfault. Does anyone have any suggetsions for how to diagnose the problem? Or could it just be a bad board?
  • [21:33:32] <_av500_> bad power supply?
  • [21:34:03] <koen> your kernel might lack the ABB fix
  • [21:34:30] <koen> the r90 kernel from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ has the fix
  • [21:34:36] <GooglyGabe> I'm running on a 5V wall wart from special computing, (plugged in through a killawat)
  • [21:34:42] <GooglyGabe> what's ABB?
  • [21:34:52] <GooglyGabe> I'm using the Lucid image from the elinux ubuntu page.
  • [21:35:07] <koen> ah, ubuntu
  • [21:35:09] <koen> no idea on that
  • [21:35:15] <koen> abb is adaptive body bias
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  • [21:38:40] <GooglyGabe> Should I ask in arm-ubuntu (or #ubuntu-arm, I can't remember which)?
  • [21:38:44] <GooglyGabe> Or is this more BB specific?
  • [21:39:05] <_av500_> it is bb specific
  • [21:39:18] <_av500_> but we dont know what ubuntu puts inside their kernels
  • [21:39:24] <djlewis_> you might try another memory card
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  • [21:41:11] <GooglyGabe> Okay. I'll give that a whirl. Is it worth running memtest etc. to see if I have bad memory or any other hardware tests?
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  • [21:45:24] <GooglyGabe> Oh, do any of you know if non-ES opengl is supported under any linux on the xM?
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  • [22:03:34] <koen> GooglyGabe: yes, using software emulation
  • [22:03:44] <GooglyGabe> koen: You mean for openGL?
  • [22:03:50] <GooglyGabe> Yeah I was hoping for HW :)
  • [22:04:43] <GooglyGabe> hmm, I ran memtest on my XM board and it failed.
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  • [22:05:22] <_av500_> how do you power it?
  • [22:05:38] <GooglyGabe> 5V adapter from special computing
  • [22:05:53] <_av500_> and can you try one of the angstrom images?
  • [22:06:07] <GooglyGabe> Sure, I have the one it came with. Does that have a memtest on it?
  • [22:06:24] <_av500_> dunoo
  • [22:07:35] <koen> use the ones from the angstrom site
  • [22:07:40] <koen> that has more fixes
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  • [22:07:55] <GooglyGabe> To rule out kernel vs. hardware problem?
  • [22:07:56] <GooglyGabe> Sounds good.
  • [22:08:25] <GooglyGabe> I have to go for now. Will be back tomorrow :)
  • [22:08:28] <GooglyGabe> Thanks for the help!
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  • [22:14:43] * sakoman hates reworking 0201 components by hand :-(
  • [22:15:06] <_av500_> a cmon
  • [22:15:37] <koen> everything is bigger in texas
  • [22:15:49] <_av500_> 0201 imperial?
  • [22:15:50] <koen> that radiates out to ca as well I would assume
  • [22:17:11] <sakoman> av500: its the one where the component is the size of a poopy seed :-)
  • [22:17:19] <sakoman> heh poppy seed
  • [22:17:30] * DaveDavenport hums chris Rea - Texas
  • [22:18:24] <_av500_> sakoman: right
  • [22:18:24] <koen> driving home to texmas?
  • [22:19:06] <sakoman> av500: I don't mind removing them, it is adding one that sucks
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  • [22:19:19] <DaveDavenport> koen: almost
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  • [22:20:36] <sakoman> ah, the surgery was successful!
  • [22:21:08] <_av500_> seeds pooped?
  • [22:21:43] <sakoman> av500: yup, pooped into the right spot with no collateral damage
  • [22:21:52] <dancios> is there any battery power supply projects for beagle-xm ?
  • [22:22:46] <djlewis_> sakoman: i got my addon cap for my C2, been putting off the task :(
  • [22:23:13] <sakoman> just dive in and do it!
  • [22:23:20] <djlewis_> I was expecting it to be bigger
  • [22:23:49] <DaveDavenport> djlewis_: that's what she said
  • [22:23:55] <_av500_> djlewis_: it is big
  • [22:24:10] <djlewis_> now i'm wishing ordered that tweezer set
  • [22:25:31] <DaveDavenport> djlewis_: that's what she said
  • [22:25:34] <DaveDavenport> sorry to tempting
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  • [22:25:43] <djlewis_> chuckle
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  • [22:55:52] <djlewis_> later
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