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  • [00:04:57] <marxent> hello amigos
  • [00:06:20] <marxent> trying to boot my beagle for the first time and not getting anything in the terminal window. retried the steps several times but same result
  • [00:06:27] <marxent> any good ideas?
  • [00:06:47] <JakeJBailey> you have serial hooked up?
  • [00:07:16] <marxent> don't laugh but i made my own cable. i triple checked it and the connections seem to be good
  • [00:07:32] <marxent> checked the terminal window settings and those are good
  • [00:07:43] <JakeJBailey> what OS are you running the terminal on
  • [00:08:13] <marxent> i tried from windows hyperterminal and from minicom on my ubuntu VM
  • [00:08:33] <JakeJBailey> putty works for me in windows
  • [00:08:44] <JakeJBailey> "To set up a serial console under Windows XP or Vista operating system, I recommend downloading PuTTY, a terminal emulation program for Windows available at no cost (see Resources). Configure PuTTY for serial use by clicking Serial in the Session window. Next, click Serial at the bottom of the Category pane. Set the speed to 115200, the data bits to 8, the parity to None, the stop bits to 1, and flow control to None."
  • [00:09:10] <marxent> i'll give that a shot. thanks
  • [00:10:22] <JakeJBailey> Beagle: About what it it or how it works or what?
  • [00:10:28] <JakeJBailey> it is*
  • [00:13:29] <marxent> downloaded putty and configured. clicked "Open" and it doesn't do anything
  • [00:14:40] <JakeJBailey> reset your board
  • [00:15:08] <JakeJBailey> make sure you hit the "serial" radio button
  • [00:16:38] <JakeJBailey> its under connection type
  • [00:17:01] <marxent> did that. i see Data, Proxy, Telnet... as options. I picked Serial
  • [00:17:04] <marxent> COM1
  • [00:17:11] <marxent> 115200, 8, 1, none, none
  • [00:17:25] <JakeJBailey> and terminal comes up when you hit open right?>
  • [00:17:35] <marxent> no. nothing comes up
  • [00:17:57] <marxent> downloaded from putty.org
  • [00:18:03] <JakeJBailey> wait options should be Raw,telnet, rlogin,SSH, serial
  • [00:18:17] <JakeJBailey> http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/769/untitasassled.png
  • [00:18:44] <marxent> probably just downloaded a virus
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  • [00:19:18] <JakeJBailey> http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe
  • [00:21:44] <marxent> was on the wrong tab when i clicked open
  • [00:22:08] <JakeJBailey> didnt know it had an effect, working now?
  • [00:22:22] <marxent> putty is, beagle isn't
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  • [00:22:37] <JakeJBailey> ok so restart and see if beagle talks to putty
  • [00:22:42] <JakeJBailey> restart beagle that is
  • [00:22:54] <JakeJBailey> guess i should say reset
  • [00:23:06] <marxent> hope i haven't killed my beagle
  • [00:23:11] <JakeJBailey> doubt it
  • [00:23:15] <marxent> i see 4 leds lit up
  • [00:23:41] <marxent> nothing in putty
  • [00:23:45] <JakeJBailey> anything in terminal?
  • [00:23:56] <JakeJBailey> hmm
  • [00:24:52] <JakeJBailey> go to hardware manager and make sure ur serial port is working
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  • [00:25:55] <marxent> don't see anything wrong
  • [00:25:56] <JakeJBailey> if thats not it im prolly gonna have to say its the cable, lol
  • [00:26:10] <JakeJBailey> howd you make it?
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  • [00:26:48] <marxent> i bought an IDE ribbon cable from radio shack and spliced it with a female db9 cable
  • [00:26:52] <marxent> soldered the wires together
  • [00:27:10] <marxent> 1>1 2>2 and clipped 10
  • [00:27:45] <marxent> checked the connectivity thru my meter and the connections were good
  • [00:28:25] <JakeJBailey> how is it connected to beagle?
  • [00:28:25] <marxent> dang. gotta give the kids a bath. thanks for your patience
  • [00:28:46] <JakeJBailey> http://elinux.org/images/2/2c/Flyswatter-ti-uart.pdf
  • [00:28:58] <marxent> the end of the ribbon cable fit onto the board just right
  • [00:29:36] <JakeJBailey> ahh
  • [00:29:44] <JakeJBailey> and youve triple checked the pinout?
  • [00:30:37] <marxent> mine isn't the same as what u just sent
  • [00:30:55] <marxent> i just connected them pin for pin. 1=1, 2=2, ... 9=9
  • [00:31:19] <marxent> what you sent has them 3=2, 2=3, 5=gnd
  • [00:31:36] <marxent> i'll give that a shot after they get to bed and let you know if u r on later
  • [00:31:40] <marxent> thanks a bunch
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  • [00:37:37] <JakeJBailey> hmm i didnt notice that either, idk whats up with that, just googled for the pinout
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  • [00:44:06] <JakeJBailey> oh okay yea thats right just switch pins 2 and 3
  • [00:44:56] <JakeJBailey> those are the rx and tx pins, so right now you have rx to rx and tx to tx, which obviously shouldnt work, just swap em and your good
  • [00:45:55] <JakeJBailey> wouldnt worry about the 5 going to ground
  • [00:46:25] <JakeJBailey> just leave 5 to 5 like you have it
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  • [01:37:41] <marxent_> woo hoo!!
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  • [01:38:25] <marxent_> u there Jake?
  • [01:39:04] <JakeJBailey> yea
  • [01:39:09] <JakeJBailey> cool
  • [01:40:03] <marxent_> i guess next step is to format an SD card and get Angstrom running. does that have Gnome on it?
  • [01:40:28] <marxent_> or do you have to load Gnome afterwards?
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  • [01:42:47] <JakeJBailey> comes with e17
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  • [02:47:29] <johnnyg> bkero: you come with everything ;)
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  • [03:27:41] <JakeJBailey> anyway I can free up as much memory as possible with just a serial terminal
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  • [03:28:06] <JakeJBailey> every time i try to kill the xserver in angstrom it comes right back
  • [03:28:38] <JakeJBailey> wait got it, down to only 76MB used
  • [03:28:42] <buZz> stop the service thats starting it then
  • [03:29:09] <buZz> either its gdm/xdm/kdm, or its some line within /etc/inittab
  • [03:29:32] <buZz> 76MB used sounds like a full running linux system with X running :D
  • [03:30:00] <andre_> If you use BB xm, which code base is the easier to build?
  • [03:30:27] <buZz> andre_: depends on what you feel is easiest
  • [03:31:06] <JakeJBailey> well i was at only 20MB free from startup
  • [03:31:06] <andre_> Well, my intended goal, is initially kernel, and low level work.
  • [03:31:32] <buZz> and how much actually used, besides cached and buffered?
  • [03:32:00] <JakeJBailey> didnt pay attention but right now 52 cached out of that 76
  • [03:32:22] <buZz> so you have 22MB used, not 76
  • [03:32:35] <buZz> eh 24
  • [03:32:35] <JakeJBailey> i am pleased, hah
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  • [03:42:05] <JakeJBailey> so how would i see whats using the last 24mb?
  • [03:42:16] <JakeJBailey> top isnt showing anything
  • [03:42:58] <JakeJBailey> nvm got it
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  • [03:58:57] <JakeJBailey> top shows that i have 18799K total
  • [03:59:01] <JakeJBailey> i ahve rev C4
  • [03:59:03] <JakeJBailey> have*
  • [03:59:22] <JakeJBailey> 187996k*
  • [04:00:00] <JakeJBailey> whats with that?
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  • [04:12:26] <JakeJBailey> any idea?
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  • [04:20:29] <Beagleboard> does anyone know about dsplink programming ?
  • [04:21:49] <JakeJBailey> what about it?
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  • [06:44:18] <ds2> 6
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  • [06:50:00] <_av500_> 7
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  • [06:58:13] <_koen_> good morning all
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  • [06:58:58] <tasslehoff> morning
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  • [07:13:01] <tasslehoff> I did a Narcissus build of a console image, and upgraded it using opkg. Now I get "login: PAM failure, aborting: Critical error - immediate abort" when I try to login, and I'm pretty much stuck.
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  • [08:02:48] <_koen_> tasslehoff: is shadow installed?
  • [08:03:04] <_koen_> tasslehoff: and are you logging in over serial or ssh?
  • [08:04:03] <tasslehoff> _koen_: unsure, I did a standard console build. serial. (I've done a new build that I will restore the sd with now)
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  • [09:03:58] <hitlin37> im running angstrom next.how do i get the make utility onto it
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  • [09:09:10] <tasslehoff> Any hw-adjustments I need to do on a C3 to get the RTC clock? I have hwclock and the kernel modules installed, but dmesg doesn't mention RTC at all.
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  • [09:10:27] <tasslehoff> No battery connected, but I thought it should work with main power.
  • [09:10:52] <jacekowski> no
  • [09:10:59] <jacekowski> read the f*** manual
  • [09:11:07] <jacekowski> RTC is not going to work without battery
  • [09:11:19] <jacekowski> you need battery or ground battery pins
  • [09:11:24] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: I've been reading the f*** manual
  • [09:11:38] <jacekowski> somebody was asking that question week ago
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  • [09:12:21] <tasslehoff> and I thought that C3 had the pin grounded.
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  • [09:12:52] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: probably me, and believe it or not, I _have_ been looking at manuals to figure out how it works :)
  • [09:13:12] <jacekowski> Revision C3 is same as revision C2 except:
  • [09:13:13] <jacekowski> Optional RTC VL1220 series backup battery
  • [09:13:24] <jacekowski> that would mean it has not
  • [09:14:24] <jacekowski> When the battery is not installed,
  • [09:14:25] <jacekowski> R66 must be installed. You must make sure that prior to installing the battery that R66 is
  • [09:14:28] <jacekowski> removed.
  • [09:14:42] <jacekowski> besides, rtc without battery is as good as no rtc at all
  • [09:15:15] <jacekowski> The RTC is not
  • [09:15:15] <jacekowski> enabled by default; the host processor must set the correct date and time to enable the
  • [09:15:19] <jacekowski> RTC.
  • [09:15:50] <jacekowski> http://beagle.s3.amazonaws.com/design/Beagle_SRM_C3_0_0.pdf
  • [09:15:53] <jacekowski> it's all here
  • [09:18:50] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: thanks. we tried to do the stuff you said on our hw, but it didn't work, so I was trying to test on a C3 to compare. The thought was to see that it ticked without a battery with the pin to ground at first.
  • [09:19:12] <tasslehoff> I actually didn't know about the SRM, so that's a nice to have :)
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  • [09:27:49] <hitlin37> on narcissus,angstrom next-eglibc,out of all the boxes i checked gdb,git becomes crossed,why?
  • [09:28:05] <hitlin37> rest are ok
  • [09:28:24] <hitlin37> is gdb not available for next-eglibc
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  • [09:59:24] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: R66 is installed on C3 by default
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  • [11:05:01] <tasslehoff> Removed R66, installed a battery and the relevant kernel modules, but I still have no /dev/rtc on my C3. Any bright ideas?
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  • [11:05:55] <av500> 12V?
  • [11:09:52] <tasslehoff> av500: hm?
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  • [11:20:40] <ynezz> :)
  • [11:21:11] * tasslehoff _thinks_ he understood the joke now :)
  • [11:21:33] <tasslehoff> anyway. had to manually insmod rtc_core and rtc_twl.
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  • [11:22:54] <ksinkar> hi guys
  • [11:23:13] <ksinkar> how do you cross compile the linux kernel for beagle board
  • [11:23:22] <ksinkar> what cross compiler do you use?
  • [11:23:52] <mru> gcc
  • [11:24:18] <ksinkar> i am on fedora
  • [11:24:30] <ksinkar> how to install the gcc arm toolchain?
  • [11:24:50] <ksinkar> do u use any free tools or do u have the paid one from sourceforgery?
  • [11:25:08] <ksinkar> 'free'=free bear
  • [11:25:12] <ksinkar> 'free'=free beer
  • [11:26:53] <mru> only stupid people pay for gcc
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  • [11:42:14] <ksinkar> mru: can u give me some advice
  • [11:42:22] <ksinkar> as to what works for you for sure?
  • [11:42:26] <mru> gcc
  • [11:42:47] <ksinkar> yes
  • [11:42:55] <ksinkar> but how do u install arm-gcc?
  • [11:43:18] <mru> exactly as the documentation says
  • [11:43:25] <ksinkar> do u just take the source and compile it all by urself?
  • [11:43:26] <ksinkar> l
  • [11:43:28] <ksinkar> ok
  • [11:43:53] <ksinkar> dont u face any issues as they point out at various breakpoints?
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  • [13:11:58] <jkridner|work> good morning all
  • [13:12:04] <mru> morning jkridner|work
  • [13:12:22] <av500> gm
  • [13:12:57] * jkridner|work needs to see if Carol has confirmed the payment stuff to get reimbursed for the Mentor Summit trip.
  • [13:14:49] <woglinde> hi av500
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  • [13:26:14] <CMoH> cwillu, ping
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  • [13:33:18] <djlewis> gm
  • [13:33:27] <woglinde> hi djlewis
  • [13:34:52] <av500> djlewis: your 3-5 fps for the 2x webcam, what was that doing? just capturing or more?
  • [13:35:49] <djlewis> av500: just live video on screen if one can call it that.
  • [13:35:58] <av500> ok
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  • [13:36:20] <djlewis> but of course with my C2 it crashes intermitently
  • [13:37:40] <djlewis> had drop outs in images too.
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  • [13:42:15] <djlewis> av500: ok just read latest on the BB stereo post.
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  • [13:43:46] <djlewis> Stereo vision on pre XM's is a try it and see if it will suit your needs kind of thing.
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  • [13:44:23] <av500> djlewis: what does it have to do with XM?
  • [13:45:20] <djlewis> av500: just thinking out loud to myself, XM is faster so more hopeful for success using uusb video.
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  • [13:46:23] <djlewis> Ultimately I would try two XM's with modular cams sync'd together someway for live video processing.
  • [13:47:42] <CMoH> hey. i have the following situation: on uart1 on beagle rev c4 i have a loopback between rx and tx. i muxes the pins exactly like they are for uart3, and also i have copied the stty -g settings from ttyS2 to ttyS0. however, with the loopback on the beagle's pins we only get one of the characters via the loopback
  • [13:47:49] <CMoH> any ideas?
  • [13:48:34] <av500> one of the characters...
  • [13:48:36] <av500> one of the characters...?
  • [13:49:18] <CMoH> yeah, i send one character in a loop
  • [13:49:29] <CMoH> so i assume it's the last one, but ...
  • [13:50:30] <av500> the uart supports 256 characters...
  • [13:51:09] <CMoH> i don't follow
  • [13:51:42] <woglinde> CMoH but the board boots?
  • [13:51:48] <av500> sorry, neither do I
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  • [13:53:34] <CMoH> woglinde, of course it boots :)
  • [13:54:09] <CMoH> so, i'm trying to enable uart1 for rs232; we got into trouble and we tried a loopback on the uart1 pins to see how that works
  • [13:55:39] <CMoH> and i do this: cat /dev/ttyS0
  • [13:55:52] <CMoH> while true ; do echo -n 'abcd' > /dev/ttyS0 ; done
  • [13:56:00] <CMoH> and i only get the last abcd
  • [13:56:07] <CMoH> not a continous stream of abcd's
  • [13:56:19] <woglinde> hm thats better than getting nothing
  • [13:56:36] <CMoH> hehe
  • [13:56:48] <woglinde> try a sequenz
  • [13:56:50] <woglinde> 1 to 10
  • [13:56:56] <woglinde> what you get?
  • [13:57:09] <CMoH> i get nothing
  • [13:57:26] <prpplague> CMoH: try using the uart loop back here - http://www.elinux.org/Board_Bringup_Utilities
  • [13:57:52] <prpplague> CMoH: the default uart configs will prevent you from getting loopback info like what you are trying
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  • [13:58:49] <regensburg> hi guy
  • [13:58:52] <regensburg> guys
  • [13:59:03] <regensburg> i need help with usb beagle board
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  • [13:59:25] <woglinde> CMoH ?????
  • [13:59:28] <regensburg> it doesnt detect keyboard even using powerd usb hub
  • [13:59:37] <regensburg> im trying to run angstrom here
  • [13:59:43] <buZz> is it a usb 2.0 hub?
  • [13:59:43] <woglinde> regensburg what is dmesg telling you?
  • [13:59:47] <CMoH> prpplague, what configs exactly?
  • [13:59:48] <regensburg> ya
  • [14:00:13] <regensburg> yeah im using usb 2.0
  • [14:00:26] <CMoH> woglinde, i get nothing output by the cat in the background
  • [14:00:30] <regensburg> with external power supply
  • [14:00:31] <woglinde> buzz what should usb 2.0 have to do with it?
  • [14:00:37] <prpplague> CMoH: basically you need to use stty on the port to turn off all the line control and modifications
  • [14:00:42] <woglinde> regensburg look at the dmesg output
  • [14:00:47] <buZz> woglinde: well, there are also usb 1.0 powered hubs
  • [14:00:56] <buZz> those will not work
  • [14:01:01] <woglinde> buzz hm
  • [14:01:01] <CMoH> stty -F /dev/ttyS0 -crtscts -clocal cread cs8 -cstopb -parenb
  • [14:01:10] <regensburg> wut is dmesg?im kinda new to dis whole thing
  • [14:01:17] <buZz> dmesg is a command
  • [14:01:20] <CMoH> prpplague, ^^
  • [14:01:25] <buZz> it outputs the kernel messages
  • [14:01:25] <woglinde> dmesg is the command which shows the kerneloutput
  • [14:01:58] <regensburg> ic..
  • [14:02:01] <woglinde> when you see somthing that the usbdriver couldnt be loaded for something than the driver is missing or something else is wrong
  • [14:02:26] <regensburg> so i still need to install usb driver on da BB?
  • [14:02:43] <buZz> no you need to look in dmesg :)
  • [14:03:02] <regensburg> wait :P
  • [14:03:52] <woglinde> lsusb would help too
  • [14:04:12] <woglinde> hm lets see how the package is called in oe
  • [14:04:38] <mmarker> Hmm...is this a good place to talk about the beagle kernel for ubuntu, or should I take it to ubuntu?
  • [14:04:53] <woglinde> opkg install usbutils
  • [14:05:15] <woglinde> mmarker depends
  • [14:05:26] <regensburg> woglinde
  • [14:05:35] <woglinde> regensburg yes?
  • [14:05:38] <woglinde> I hear you
  • [14:05:49] <regensburg> dmesg giving me long list
  • [14:05:54] <woglinde> yes
  • [14:06:02] <woglinde> try opkg install usbutils
  • [14:06:05] <regensburg> shld i check those usb related rite?
  • [14:06:13] <woglinde> if you have network connection
  • [14:06:15] <regensburg> is dat a command?
  • [14:06:18] <mmarker> Woglinde: specifically...what in the clock/power setup is missing in the ubuntu kernel to run the bbxm at 1ghz
  • [14:06:31] <mmarker> At least...I remember that being an issue.
  • [14:06:38] <woglinde> mmarker hm better ask them about it
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  • [14:06:50] <woglinde> I wouldnt run it at 1 ghz
  • [14:06:57] <av500> mmarker: where is the ubuntu kernel?
  • [14:07:07] <av500> woglinde: come on, its for fun!
  • [14:08:16] <mmarker> Well, what is the bbxm specced at?
  • [14:08:57] <mmarker> Av500: I believe it lives as a bunch of patches on launchpad. Lemme find the url
  • [14:09:51] <mmarker> https://launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel
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  • [14:13:15] <av500> mmarker: sorry, theres no kernel to look at
  • [14:13:30] <woglinde> its 2.6.34
  • [14:13:50] <av500> url?
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  • [14:14:43] <mmarker> It's there...sadly as a download stock tarball and install a bazillion patches
  • [14:14:50] <jannau> maybeArgh:
  • [14:14:52] <mmarker> It's asstastic
  • [14:14:59] <jannau> whoops
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  • [14:17:11] <av500> jannau: found it: http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/samsung-unveils-new-55-inch-lcd-with-ultraslim-bezel-invites-di/
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  • [14:19:05] <dm8tbr> av500: you could attach two to the PB :)
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  • [14:19:35] <jannau> av500: I saw that, 55" is a little impractical
  • [14:19:47] <ynezz> hm, I wonder what's the price for that beast
  • [14:19:55] <jannau> dm8tbr: the goal is to make 2x2 or 3x3 videowall
  • [14:20:43] <dm8tbr> jannau: well 2 PB then for 2x2
  • [14:22:01] <ynezz> take this to fosdem next year http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/sharps-30-screen-display-features-worlds-thinnest-bezel-separa/
  • [14:23:01] <dm8tbr> av500: or you could ask MMx for some of their stuff :D
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  • [14:23:22] <jannau> ynezz: I think we saw that at the IFA
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  • [14:25:08] <ynezz> "no words on price yet", "price undisclosed", even no estimate
  • [14:25:42] <nigihayami> Hi, I just received beagleboard and when I connect to a monitor over hdmi, I only see orange screen
  • [14:25:56] <nigihayami> How can I install an Os on beagleboard
  • [14:26:40] <woglinde> nigihayami didnt you google and find an installation instruction?
  • [14:27:07] <prpplague> nigihayami: or check the elinux.org wiki?
  • [14:27:59] <ynezz> jannau: let's make world smallest 4x4 videowall with some 3" LCDs :p
  • [14:28:29] <av500> ynezz: working on that
  • [14:28:31] <ynezz> well, it shouldn't be called wall then, just a brick
  • [14:28:36] <nigihayami> the thing is I cannot see anything over rs232, all settings are correct
  • [14:28:45] <mru> video brick, hmm
  • [14:28:53] <jannau> av500: still planing to build the archos 101 videowall
  • [14:29:17] <av500> yup
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  • [14:35:11] <dm8tbr> ynezz: they did that with archos 404 units and manual syncing :)
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  • [14:37:08] <ynezz> manual syncing? :)
  • [14:39:43] <av500> ynezz: sec, I will utubu it
  • [14:39:45] <av500> utube
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  • [14:42:41] <av500> here ya go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPvwS0MH68k
  • [14:43:48] <av500> ynezz: manual syncing as in press play on all at the same time
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  • [14:47:16] <woglinde> av500 topmid is to dark
  • [14:47:21] <woglinde> *g*
  • [14:47:59] <av500> true
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  • [15:04:17] <djlewis> /me needs to blow the dust off his C2 and do more research.
  • [15:04:39] <djlewis> hmmm
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  • [15:07:05] <emeb> gm djlewis
  • [15:07:22] <djlewis> emeb: best of the morning to you
  • [15:07:32] <emeb> likewise
  • [15:07:38] <emeb> your C2 is dusty?
  • [15:07:45] <djlewis> very
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  • [15:08:16] <djlewis> with a 12Amp vac I was attempting to digg my way to it yesterday.
  • [15:08:40] <emeb> that's some thick dust
  • [15:08:52] <djlewis> Living in the country on a dirt road and having the windows open == DUSTY!
  • [15:09:18] <emeb> so it's not just the donuts
  • [15:09:56] <djlewis> hey! the doe nut icing flakes I usually lick off.
  • [15:10:06] <djlewis> oops, donut
  • [15:10:16] <emeb> only stags have nuts
  • [15:10:44] <djlewis> oh, i doth have opened a big bucket o worms with that typo :(
  • [15:10:54] <emeb> :)
  • [15:11:35] <emeb> research on stereo webcam?
  • [15:11:51] <djlewis> not much more to do in that area. its slow
  • [15:12:08] <av500> yes, but WHY?
  • [15:12:25] <av500> shipping 2x qvga over usb is nothing
  • [15:12:39] <emeb> indeed - seems like USB should support better bandwidth than that
  • [15:12:48] <djlewis> saw where a hp laptop builtin cam is uvc
  • [15:13:04] <av500> emeb: well, there are 720p webcams now...
  • [15:13:29] <dm8tbr> aren't those encoding mostly to h.264 internally?
  • [15:13:33] <emeb> yowza - anyone tried one of those on a BB or OMAP system yet?
  • [15:13:35] <djlewis> av500: i would like to know myself.
  • [15:14:37] <_koen_> why not hook up 2 sensors to the ISP?
  • [15:14:50] * emeb was wondering how that would work
  • [15:14:52] <djlewis> I have a spare Sony laptop screen i mean to pull the cam from.
  • [15:14:56] <djlewis> It looks to be usb.
  • [15:15:19] <emeb> of course you need an xM to try that
  • [15:15:27] <djlewis> but then it would make a cool BB screen with builtin webcam ;)
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  • [15:16:08] <emeb> djlewis: just need the pinout for the sony LCD and a bit of time wiring up an interface
  • [15:16:31] <emeb> no biggie :P
  • [15:16:38] <djlewis> sounds like a winter project.
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  • [15:17:07] <emeb> for me, winter as in "hell freezes over" :)
  • [15:19:07] <av500> 2 sensors on iso is doable, but needs some glue
  • [15:19:10] <av500> on isp
  • [15:19:29] * emeb ponders another FPGA application...
  • [15:19:43] <av500> emeb: yes, but your fpga is not connected to the isp
  • [15:19:58] <emeb> indeed - needs a new board targeted at xM
  • [15:20:09] <av500> it could be simpler, just some logic to make one sensor wait while the other one is read
  • [15:20:29] <av500> or sync them into a virtual sensor that have twice the height
  • [15:20:33] <av500> has
  • [15:20:33] <emeb> wonder if there's any GPIO on the ISP connector?
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  • [15:35:05] <hatten|> kind of, you can probably use the cam_fld and cam_wen signals as GPIO
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  • [15:45:15] <djlewis> dang, I have to install XP on this HP just to do a bios update.
  • [15:46:12] <jannau> djlewis: no dos boot disk anymore?
  • [15:46:30] <av500> djlewis: no, you need to take it out back and quietly shoot it
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  • [15:46:57] <hatten|> I thought installing XP was the Computer equivalent of taking it out back and shooting it
  • [15:47:39] <av500> hatten|: it's shotting half the brain off, yes
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  • [15:51:27] <woglinde> jannau if I remeber correctly you make a bootdisk with the windows program
  • [15:51:51] <djlewis> hmm I can try launching the .exe on another box and check that.
  • [15:52:14] <djlewis> but HP says only runs under admin mode in Winders
  • [15:53:03] <djlewis> no bootable disk options listed
  • [15:53:36] <jannau> lenovo has cd images
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  • [15:54:38] <djlewis> this is an older hp pav AMD64x2 3800
  • [15:54:43] <djlewis> desktop
  • [15:54:58] <av500> djlewis: it's dead Jim
  • [15:56:06] <jannau> djlewis: it wine might be easier than installing winxp
  • [15:58:57] <woglinde> wow for this old machine there is bios update
  • [16:01:53] <djlewis> Im hoping to get rid of log overflow from acpi arrors
  • [16:01:58] <djlewis> errors
  • [16:02:25] <woglinde> lol
  • [16:02:36] <woglinde> fix the acpi table yourself
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  • [16:14:56] <CMoH> prpplague, i've finally managed to compile that uart-loopback.c you talked about earlier and it fails with 'read timeout error'
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  • [16:17:10] <djlewis> ugh, tables are compiled
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  • [16:43:15] <djlewis> later...
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  • [16:56:40] <CMoH> anyone managed to make UART1 work on rev c4?
  • [16:57:24] <CMoH> help :)
  • [17:00:04] <woglinde> damn eclipse
  • [17:02:33] <mru> solar or lunar?
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  • [17:08:09] <CMoH> what's the conclusion one can draw from local loopback not working on uart1? except that the mux is wrong, which it isn't
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  • [17:23:56] <ynezz> koen: Do you use your mac for building OE? Found this, but it doesn't sound like it would be possible http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro#Using_OpenEmbedded_on_Mac_OS_X
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  • [17:37:45] <koen> ynezz: I tried, but didn't get far since all my disk have spaces in their name
  • [17:39:30] <ynezz> bummer
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  • [17:57:29] <tasslehoff> We have a board with TPS65920 instead of TPS65950, and the RTC doesn't work. Trying to read kernel source, but I haven't seen the light yet. Is there a way to see the detected I2C-devices on the board? The twl driver has an array with supported devices, and I want to see if it has detected the right chip.
  • [18:01:45] <jacekowski> try i2cget
  • [18:01:54] <jacekowski> and just check each address
  • [18:02:00] <jacekowski> simple bash script would do
  • [18:02:18] <jacekowski> if adress is claimed by kernel module it will return -EBUSY error
  • [18:02:32] <jacekowski> and if it there is nothing there there will be different error
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  • [18:02:41] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: that it did. both 48,49,4a and 4b were busy
  • [18:02:44] <jacekowski> and if there is something there there will no error
  • [18:02:53] <jacekowski> then maybe
  • [18:02:54] <jacekowski> hmm
  • [18:02:58] <jacekowski> go to /sys
  • [18:03:01] <jacekowski> cd /sys
  • [18:03:03] <jonpry> i2c is not usually probed
  • [18:03:03] <jacekowski> find | grep rtc
  • [18:04:38] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: I'm at home reading datasheets / source now, so I don't have the board until tomorrow.
  • [18:04:59] <koen> i2ctools don't really work on the tps addresses
  • [18:06:12] <tasslehoff> koen: looked a bit odd. on the beagle (it seemed) I could read back seconds/minutes after setting them with "hwclock -w"
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  • [18:06:44] <tasslehoff> on our own board I get "select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out", so it seems it doesn't get the interrupts it wants.
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  • [18:18:18] <foobaz> Is there a way to make the sound louder on the BB? I connected the audio to a small car monitor with speakers and have the volume at max on it and on the BB and it sounds like a wisper.
  • [18:20:10] <emeb> foobaz: have you tweaked the mixer settings?
  • [18:20:11] <topfs2> outputs shouldn't exceed 400mV iirc
  • [18:20:22] <topfs2> or W can't recall
  • [18:20:38] <topfs2> at anyrate it should be low on a laptop aswell, you probably need an amplifier
  • [18:21:11] <koen> line level is 1Vpp usually
  • [18:21:26] <koen> is 400mV the 0dB point?
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  • [18:21:43] <topfs2> might be, I just have a small recolactiona bout 400m something
  • [18:21:49] <foobaz> emeb: if I understand you they're all at max
  • [18:22:12] <topfs2> could be me remembering wrong with usb 400mW thing aswell
  • [18:22:18] * topfs2 mumbling
  • [18:27:55] <tasslehoff> hmm. since I have TPS65920 instead of TPS65950 I ran menuconfig to disable audio. was that not strictly necessary? I could have let the kernel figure it out by itself maybe?
  • [18:27:59] <jacekowski> foobaz: you need amplifier
  • [18:28:26] <foobaz> is there a common one people used?
  • [18:28:33] <jacekowski> anything
  • [18:28:38] <jacekowski> just any active seakers
  • [18:28:39] <jacekowski> or something
  • [18:28:41] <jacekowski> hmm
  • [18:28:43] <jacekowski> nvm
  • [18:28:51] <jacekowski> that car monitor should have on builtin
  • [18:28:55] <jacekowski> that's strange
  • [18:29:11] <foobaz> I meant one someone here has used with success. Maybe a USB powered one? :P
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  • [18:29:42] <foobaz> jacekowski: yeah that's what we thought, but even at 100% volume it doesn't go much louder. It's just a little whisper
  • [18:29:51] <jacekowski> connections?
  • [18:29:58] <jacekowski> is it switched on?
  • [18:30:03] <foobaz> yes
  • [18:30:12] <jacekowski> do you have other speakers
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  • [18:30:29] <foobaz> we used headphones with sounded fine, but no speakers though
  • [18:30:31] <jacekowski> headphones?
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  • [18:30:48] <jacekowski> hmmm if it sounds fine with headphones then it's speakers problem
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  • [18:46:28] <DesertZarzamora> hi, i just installed my beagleboard with angstrom, booted, got usb-eth networking
  • [18:46:32] <DesertZarzamora> updated & upgraded using opkg
  • [18:46:46] <DesertZarzamora> but dont find many packages on opkg
  • [18:46:51] <DesertZarzamora> are there other repos???
  • [18:46:54] <jd823592> Hello, i tried to ask on #PandaBoard but i never got the answer, i thought it could be similar here.. Do BeagleBoard and PandaBoard have wake on lan capability?
  • [18:47:06] <jacekowski> no
  • [18:47:09] <jacekowski> no ethernet
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  • [18:48:52] <koen> yep, ethernet on the beagle
  • [18:48:54] <jd823592> BBxM has ethernet
  • [18:49:00] <koen> and damn, the panda also has ethernet
  • [18:49:48] <dm8tbr> jd823592: you got an answer in #pb ...
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  • [18:51:20] <jd823592> oh do i? but is there any irc log where i could look at it
  • [18:52:12] <dm8tbr> 09:28:06< lag> danielj: No
  • [18:52:12] <dm8tbr> 09:28:17< lag> Cannot get current wake-on-lan settings: Operation not supported
  • [18:52:12] <dm8tbr> 09:28:17< lag> not setting wol
  • [18:52:40] <jd823592> oh thanks
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  • [18:59:30] <ds2> ewwwww USB ethernet
  • [18:59:44] <woglinde> gadget
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  • [19:49:06] <Crofton|work> has anyone done any work on accelerating opencv?
  • [19:49:34] <mru> hopefully towards /dev/null
  • [19:51:42] <koen> Crofton|work: you have gagans mail address?
  • [19:51:59] <koen> Crofton|work: he helped with the SoC to make opencv use c6accel
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  • [20:16:03] <djlewis_> foobaz: the BB puts out a line level audio. you do need amplified spkrs with matching input.
  • [20:22:37] <jkridner> fyi, there will be a bunch of University of Texas students that will be joining this IRC channel in about 2-1/2 hours.
  • [20:22:53] <mru> brace for impact
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  • [20:22:58] <jkridner> TI is running a design contest around the BeagleBoard.
  • [20:22:59] <jkridner> :)
  • [20:23:02] <_av500_> omg
  • [20:23:03] <_av500_> url?
  • [20:23:06] <djlewis_> put our nice caps on :)
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  • [20:23:25] * _av500_ practices "check you cabling, check your cabling..."
  • [20:23:27] <jkridner> http://beagleboard.org/challenge or http://www.ti.com/beagleboardchallenge
  • [20:23:30] <jkridner> :)
  • [20:23:40] * mru fires up troll engine
  • [20:23:46] <ds2> jkridner: rehashing the old one on the elinux.org site?
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  • [20:24:05] <jkridner> no, it is a different contest...
  • [20:24:11] <ds2> _av500_: just write macros for RTFM :D
  • [20:24:15] * jkridner thinks we should revive the one on eLinux.
  • [20:24:37] <koen> yeah
  • [20:24:49] <koen> and use cattle prods for the judges
  • [20:24:51] <ds2> can we make it - deposit $149, do the work, show it and get the deposit back? :D
  • [20:25:09] <jkridner> my frustration was that we weren't tracking the projects through to any sort of progress...
  • [20:25:09] * mru will not vote for any "run $foo on Beagle" projects
  • [20:25:25] <jkridner> GSoC took the wind out of the sails with a far more compelling "contest" of sorts.
  • [20:25:32] <koen> mru: look at the panda projects, "android $foo on panda"
  • [20:25:32] <_av500_> jkridner: I like rule #3: "use TI level shifters"
  • [20:25:46] <ds2> but what the GSoC lite thing that Carol announced?
  • [20:25:52] <jkridner> those rules were a bit obnoxious, imo.
  • [20:26:29] <_av500_> wow, the prices are nice
  • [20:26:43] <_av500_> who needs the cash anyway
  • [20:27:11] <ds2> I donno, I like the use TI part thing... for some parts, the TI ones do work better (just more $$ in production though :()
  • [20:27:53] <_av500_> I would have stated "do NOT use Maxim parts"
  • [20:28:03] <ds2> since TI don't make (I think) 2N2222, they still have the option of discretes :D
  • [20:28:18] <ds2> _av500_: I could go with that as an alternative ;)
  • [20:29:54] <ds2> wonder if there is a way to attract more hw projects on the elinux contest
  • [20:30:08] <ds2> too many EE's out of school don't have hands one experience
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  • [20:41:39] <mru> omg
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  • [20:41:56] <mru> remember that nigerian girl I mentioned the other day?
  • [20:42:10] <woglinde> mru what?
  • [20:42:12] <woglinde> spam?
  • [20:42:15] <woglinde> cancer?
  • [20:42:21] <mru> she just rang
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  • [20:42:44] <_av500_> wow
  • [20:42:49] <_av500_> and she has a few millions?
  • [20:42:50] <dm8tbr> LOL
  • [20:43:29] <mru> I hadn't expected that
  • [20:43:41] <_av500_> maybe she lurks on #beagle
  • [20:43:54] <mru> that would be even more surprising
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  • [20:46:19] <top100fps> for you _av500_
  • [20:47:08] * _av500_ blushes
  • [20:47:48] <woglinde> 120
  • [20:47:54] <woglinde> who has more?
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  • [20:54:42] <koen> 54 fps
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  • [20:56:21] <koen> av500: the latest DS5 plug is cute
  • [20:56:36] <koen> blah blah, ubuntu, blah DS5 link, blah
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  • [20:57:06] <mru> we found one use for ds5 actually
  • [20:57:33] <koen> yes?
  • [20:57:42] <mru> someone had a customer who really liked paying for software
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  • [20:57:59] <dm8tbr> I was going to say 'producing revenue'
  • [20:58:05] <mru> and insisted on getting an expensive compiler for some code that was written and tested with gcc
  • [20:58:14] <mru> and didn't work too well with armcc
  • [20:58:34] <mru> selling them ds5 seemed like a good option
  • [20:58:39] <mru> they get to spend some money
  • [20:59:04] <mru> no support burden from unknown compiler bugs
  • [20:59:12] <mru> everybody wins
  • [21:00:06] <jkridner> hmmm.... that's actually a nice story.
  • [21:00:47] <jkridner> lots of customers equate paid with supported---they need someone's neck to wring.
  • [21:02:06] <jkridner> personally, i'd generally rather pay someone to do some work than to buy a software product off of them, but i'd say those of us in that category are still a bit atypical.
  • [21:02:38] <_av500_> koen: nice, and so subtle with that wifey distraction...
  • [21:02:40] <mru> this was a case of irrational fear of gcc
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  • [21:06:18] <jacekowski> not so irrational
  • [21:06:26] <jacekowski> gcc tends to blow up on you
  • [21:06:36] <jacekowski> it's better than some years ago
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  • [21:08:18] <mru> if the software you want to build is known to build correctly with gcc and known to not build correctly with armcc, gcc is the better choice
  • [21:08:22] <mru> that was the case
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  • [21:11:11] <mru> gcc isn't really much buggier than other compilers
  • [21:11:25] <mru> in fact, it's a lot less buggy than many
  • [21:11:28] <woglinde> and you have the chance to fix it your self
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  • [21:11:41] <mru> woglinde: in theory
  • [21:11:46] <mru> have you ever looked at gcc source?
  • [21:11:55] <woglinde> yeah
  • [21:12:02] <woglinde> fixed some armv4 stuff
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  • [21:12:11] <woglinde> wir eabi
  • [21:12:19] <woglinde> args with
  • [21:13:01] <mru> then you know how ugly it is
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  • [22:46:09] <Deformative> Does anyone know how to set the device to secure privileged mode?
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  • [22:46:33] <_av500_> ?
  • [22:46:35] <_av500_> define
  • [22:47:01] <_av500_> you mean omap3 HS mode? not at all
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  • [22:48:25] <Deformative> I need to use the performance counters, and on the A8 you need to be secure privileged mode for that.
  • [22:49:23] <_av500_> ah
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  • [22:51:21] <Deformative> Kernel is just privileged, not secure.
  • [22:51:34] <Deformative> I think I need to set it in the bootloader somehow.
  • [22:51:57] <mru> you don't need secure mode for perf counters
  • [22:52:05] <mru> they work fine in kernel mode
  • [22:52:21] <mru> even in user mode if configured to allow that
  • [22:52:45] <Deformative> They read out all zeros for me.
  • [22:52:53] <mru> then you're doing it wrong
  • [22:52:55] <Deformative> Works fine on an a9, but a9 doesn't need secure mode apparently.
  • [22:53:02] <mru> nor does a8
  • [22:53:15] <mru> the perf counters are mostly the same
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  • [22:53:32] <mru> they are architecturally defined in armv7
  • [22:53:45] <mru> at least as far as accessing the registers goes
  • [22:53:58] <mru> some individual counters vary of course
  • [22:54:12] <Deformative> I am accessing them the exact same way except I have a different number of counters and the event numbers are different.
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  • [22:54:24] <Deformative> Do you have any idea why I can be reading all zeros on this board but not the other?
  • [22:54:27] <Deformative> Cycle counter works fine.
  • [22:54:39] <mru> you're doing something wrong
  • [22:55:22] <Deformative> Such as?
  • [22:56:01] <mru> I wouldn't dare to guess
  • [22:56:13] <_av500_> "The EN bit in c9, User Enable Register enables User mode access of the Performance Monitor Registers"
  • [22:56:29] <mru> kernel can set that bit
  • [22:56:35] <_av500_> yeah
  • [22:56:38] <Deformative> The counters are being accessed from the kernel, not usermode.
  • [22:56:54] <mru> are you using the perf subsystem?
  • [22:57:00] <Deformative> I am just confused why it works fine on my a9.
  • [22:57:08] <mru> guess you did it right there
  • [22:57:16] <Deformative> I am not using the perf subsystem.
  • [22:57:30] <mru> perhaps you should
  • [22:57:42] <Deformative> I am just mimicing the exact same way that the armv7 example code shows.
  • [22:58:10] <Deformative> My kernel doesn't have the perf subsystem.
  • [22:58:35] <mru> so get one that has it
  • [22:58:36] <mru> d'uh
  • [22:58:39] <Deformative> Do you know of a verson of android working on the beagleboard which has it?
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  • [23:17:19] <djlewis_> later...
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  • [23:25:44] <ds2> speaking of perf counters, has anyone tied it in with oprofile yet?
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  • [23:50:45] <jkridner|work1> Deformative: http://arowboat.org
  • [23:51:00] <Deformative> Hm, that's what I have.
  • [23:51:03] <Deformative> I didn't think it did.
  • [23:51:05] <Deformative> Maybe it does.
  • [23:51:14] <Deformative> I will need to look back into that then... :/
  • [23:51:18] <jkridner|work1> it supports the BeagleBoard and BeagleBoard-xM.
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  • [23:51:23] <Deformative> It would be nice if the stuff I already had worked...
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