• [00:00:40] <emeb> glad you made it :)
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  • [00:07:12] <djlewis> emeb: hi, just getting settled down to the new workbench :P
  • [00:07:41] <emeb> how's that working out?
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  • [00:09:21] <djlewis> i'm likeing the layout. the BK meter has the magnet strap and there are all kinda places to hang it
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  • [00:09:50] <djlewis> I might add a dc jack adapter to the meter though, rated at about 150 hours on its 9v batt
  • [00:11:53] <emeb> my BK has auto-off that saves the battery if I forget to shut it down.
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  • [00:12:01] <emeb> times out in about 15 min or so.
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  • [00:12:27] <emeb> batteries last a few years.
  • [00:15:36] <djlewis> thats a good stretch. i'll see how #1 that came in it lasts
  • [00:16:17] <djlewis> its so nice to have two ways to fairly accurately test caps
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  • [00:19:41] <emeb> DMM and ESR meter?
  • [00:21:21] <djlewis> yep, the BK goes to 66kuf
  • [00:23:49] <emeb> that's a lot - .066F
  • [00:24:09] <emeb> no good for testing car-stereo bypass caps tho. :P
  • [00:24:58] <djlewis> i just measured about a dozen elect pulls and the accuracy is pretty good
  • [00:25:30] <djlewis> its wierd seeing 2.145mf reading for a 2200uf ei;
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  • [00:27:14] <emeb> yep - brain not configured for millifarads
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  • [00:28:27] <djlewis> i watched a utube last night of a old fart tech measuring a cap with his old tube type tester using I V and a whetstone bridge.
  • [00:29:14] <emeb> ingenuity
  • [00:29:54] <djlewis> no it was an oldcap tester that used those features to test the cap. I used one back when I was a 12 year old wotking in a tv repair shop
  • [00:30:42] <emeb> there's a dying art.
  • [00:32:47] <djlewis> yeah, the level of trouble shooting is narrowing down to modular level rather than component
  • [00:33:01] <djlewis> following the trend of the computer repair
  • [00:33:48] <djlewis> hmm my desoldering tool wont fit my weller ec 2000 station :(
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  • [00:35:26] <emeb> true - consider that most TVs these days have more compute power than a computer of a few years back.
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  • [01:00:24] <djlewis> emeb: you are correct, ebay remembers me
  • [01:02:03] <emeb> kewl
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  • [01:51:54] <emeb> hmmmm...
  • [01:52:31] <emeb> tried USB x-loader stuff from Ceriand - no joy
  • [01:52:44] <emeb> kinda starts up, thinks it found something but gives up
  • [01:56:11] <djlewis> bummer
  • [01:58:27] <emeb> I'm sure I did something dumb.
  • [01:58:47] <emeb> good news is that direct booting from MLO to kernel works
  • [01:59:09] <emeb> bypassing u-boot speeds things up, simplifies setup.
  • [02:02:23] <djlewis> BK measures 10Mhz and 20Mhz ttl oscillators rock solid
  • [02:02:33] <djlewis> kills xtals
  • [02:03:36] <emeb> 'kills' ?
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  • [02:04:46] <djlewis> yeah, like a 12mHz xtal on a processor
  • [02:05:09] <emeb> does it damage them or just not test them?
  • [02:05:09] <djlewis> direct connection to either leg kills oscillattion
  • [02:05:23] <djlewis> hard to kill quartz
  • [02:05:28] <emeb> ah - shuts them down if measured in circuit
  • [02:05:37] <djlewis> yep
  • [02:05:42] <emeb> not surprising - they're very high impedance devices
  • [02:06:06] <emeb> can't take much capacitive load
  • [02:06:19] <djlewis> every proc needs a clock out pin
  • [02:06:32] <djlewis> or use i can use my new DSO :)
  • [02:06:37] <djlewis> that works well
  • [02:06:44] <emeb> that's the right tool for the job
  • [02:07:32] <djlewis> reading up on ebay seller costs, they get ya every which way.
  • [02:08:03] <djlewis> sell something for a dollar and it might cost ya ;)
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  • [02:11:28] <emeb> yep - them and their buddy paypal
  • [02:11:36] <emeb> nickle & dime
  • [02:12:05] <emeb> surprised paypal doesn't automatically debit a fee from my balance every month...
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  • [02:40:52] <DDD> Hello
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  • [02:48:49] <andre_> Hello
  • [02:48:51] <djlewis> wazzup
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  • [02:50:50] <andre_> I am new to Beagle Board, and need some advise of which base is easier to build, get started with for the Beagle Board XM.
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  • [02:51:53] <andre_> djLewis, any advise?
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  • [02:54:44] <djlewis> not really, I mostly use pre built images
  • [02:54:59] <andre_> from where?
  • [02:55:19] <djlewis> you can read all about the beagleboard starting at beagleboard.org
  • [02:56:07] <andre_> OK, I did... but there is lots of stuff there... and I got here, to get some specific :-)
  • [02:56:22] <djlewis> what is your ultimate goal?
  • [02:56:42] <djlewis> waht are you wanting to do?
  • [02:57:08] <andre_> There are several builds: Debian based, Ubuntu based, and now, Maemo, Android, Angstrom, gentoo.... !!
  • [02:57:19] <djlewis> yes
  • [02:57:43] <djlewis> all come ready built or you can setup a toolchain and build them yourself
  • [02:57:45] <andre_> My "ultimate goal" is to write devices drivers, in other word low level and kernel stuff.
  • [02:57:58] <djlewis> you do need a toohchain then
  • [02:58:02] <djlewis> toolchain
  • [02:58:14] <djlewis> have you read about OE and bitbake yet?
  • [02:58:23] <andre_> no!
  • [02:58:55] <djlewis> a good toolchain is codesorcery
  • [02:58:59] <djlewis> spelled wrong
  • [02:59:22] <andre_> Yes, I already got this one.
  • [02:59:37] <andre_> (CodeSourcy)
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  • [03:01:44] <andre_> I am now getting a git clone (a build) from "alwaysInovating" but I have no idea if it is a good place to start!
  • [03:01:59] <djlewis> emeb: i am procrastinating on board repair until i get the antistatic mat friday
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  • [03:02:30] <djlewis> i am no help with source trees
  • [03:03:18] <andre_> OK, you did your best.
  • [03:03:21] <andre_> Thanks!
  • [03:03:32] <djlewis> iwouldnt say that but ok
  • [03:04:21] <emeb> djlewis: no sense rushing and possibly frying stuff...
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  • [03:04:26] <andre_> Well, too much info, is just as difficult to deal with than no info: a needle in a haystack...
  • [03:04:50] <djlewis> andre_: yes
  • [03:05:15] <djlewis> emeb: no, I am really procrastinating :) not much of a static issue here in the south
  • [03:05:31] <emeb> but it's a good excuse
  • [03:05:53] <djlewis> dont need one, I only answer to a higher being and myself
  • [03:06:20] <emeb> that's a good place to be.
  • [03:06:24] <andre_> in the south, means where exactly? (Marseille, Mobile, San Diego, etc...)
  • [03:06:41] <djlewis> oh, near Little ROck Arkansas, USA
  • [03:06:43] <ds2> always use source to start with
  • [03:06:50] <ds2> preferably, the L-O tree
  • [03:07:23] <andre_> I am in CA, and never been there! I only know a bit of Tx, AL in the south....
  • [03:07:35] <emeb> ds2: got my filters working - sorta
  • [03:07:42] <ds2> emeb: the IIR ones?
  • [03:07:45] <emeb> yep
  • [03:07:55] <ds2> and you get something other then 0xffff outputted? ;)
  • [03:07:56] <emeb> DSP library needed the feedback coeffs inverted
  • [03:08:32] <emeb> trouble is it's hard to do good audio filters with only 16-bit math (in a dsPIC)
  • [03:08:32] <ds2> this has me wondering... are IIR/FIR filters both linear phase?
  • [03:08:48] <emeb> FIR filters are usually designed for linear phase
  • [03:08:55] <emeb> but can be designed for minimum phase
  • [03:09:02] <emeb> IIR filters are usually not linear phase
  • [03:09:13] <emeb> but you can design allpass phase correctors for them
  • [03:09:22] <ds2> I see
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  • [03:09:34] <ds2> can either of these be designed to do exactly 90deg phase shifts?
  • [03:09:41] <ds2> hilbert transform (?)
  • [03:09:45] <emeb> yes - both can
  • [03:09:54] <emeb> I've done it both ways.
  • [03:09:58] <emeb> FIR for RF stuff
  • [03:10:01] <emeb> IIR for audio
  • [03:10:49] <ds2> just got a wild idea about doing SSB detection with quadratures and balanced mixers
  • [03:11:24] <emeb> That's a fairly common application for these things
  • [03:11:32] <djlewis> andre_: Angstrom might be easiest to work in
  • [03:11:58] <andre_> OK, got that! Thanks.
  • [03:12:10] <djlewis> more users
  • [03:12:13] <andre_> Is it the one you are using?
  • [03:12:15] <ds2> I see... wonder if the DSP on the beagle can keep up doing SSB detection at ~1-2MHz sample rate (digital IF replacement for a 455KHz system)
  • [03:12:28] <djlewis> andre_: yes, several versions
  • [03:12:56] <djlewis> andre_: i did install and have used OE and Bitbake some
  • [03:13:01] <emeb> ds2: maybe - depends on how you plan to get the samples into the omap
  • [03:13:08] <djlewis> andre_: I am no authority on it though
  • [03:13:19] <ds2> why, through the McBSP funnel of course :D
  • [03:13:27] <djlewis> that is great for building a fs
  • [03:13:49] <ds2> nix that, the McBSP don't run fast enuff
  • [03:13:59] <djlewis> andree and when it is installes and populated you ahve all the current sources and recipies available to you
  • [03:14:11] <emeb> McBSP can go >20Mbps
  • [03:14:13] <djlewis> andre_: ^^^
  • [03:14:30] <ds2> as a slave or a master?
  • [03:14:34] <andre_> Bitbake will do that?
  • [03:14:55] <emeb> Spec suggests either
  • [03:14:58] <djlewis> bitbake takes the recipies and cooks up the task
  • [03:15:01] <ds2> Hmmm
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  • [03:15:20] <emeb> so you could get ~1Msps w/ 16-bit ADC
  • [03:15:27] <djlewis> andre_: it simplifies over using makefiles
  • [03:15:50] <andre_> Sounds pretty good. so I wll get Bitbake, OE, Code sourcery Now one more question.
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  • [03:16:42] <andre_> I have Fedora, is that adequate, or will Bitbake etc... be only debian packages?
  • [03:16:54] <djlewis> andre_: you might ask if Code sourcery and OE/Bitbake play well together
  • [03:17:13] <emeb> andre_: I run OE/Bitbake on Fedora 11 & 13
  • [03:17:17] <andre_> I am glad "I asked :-)"
  • [03:17:17] <djlewis> OE/Bitbake builds for your target
  • [03:17:57] <andre_> Great I use Fedora 13, only at this time (a great distro!).
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  • [03:18:40] <emeb> works for me
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  • [03:21:28] <emeb> ds2: looking at this part for an RF front-end: http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/afedri8201.html
  • [03:21:44] <emeb> NRFND tho
  • [03:23:32] <ds2> CS plays fine
  • [03:24:22] <ds2> emeb: looks reasonable... even a built in NCO
  • [03:24:46] <emeb> yep - NCO, tuning, filters, decimation
  • [03:24:58] <emeb> setting it up requires some fore-thought
  • [03:25:00] <ds2> doesn't say on the webpage how high the NCO goes though
  • [03:25:28] <emeb> pretty sure it'll go to Fs/2 - 40MHz max
  • [03:26:22] <andre_> djlewis: I have found and isnatlle bitbake, but could not find OE, any idea?
  • [03:26:43] <ds2> 40MHz isn't bad. been wanting to build a DC to 30MHz all modes receiver for decades now
  • [03:27:07] <andre_> djlewis: I have found and installed bitbake, but could not find OE, any idea?
  • [03:27:10] <djlewis> andre_: if you follow the beginners wiki it will lead you to how to setup
  • [03:27:17] <andre_> good !
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  • [03:29:18] <andre_> Thanks djlewis.
  • [03:29:29] <djlewis> sure thing
  • [03:29:37] <emeb> ds2: serial output may be compatible w/ McBSP
  • [03:30:08] <ds2> so many ideas, so little time
  • [03:30:29] <ds2> there are probally alternatives using parts from minicircuits
  • [03:31:13] <emeb> yep - go analog
  • [03:32:44] <emeb> time to shut this one down...
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  • [03:49:24] <thurbad> suckage... my second beagle board just broke
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  • [03:49:57] <djlewis> hmm did ya kick it into the bushes?
  • [03:50:24] <thurbad> no, I unplugged the audio out.. and the connector stayed connected to the jack
  • [03:50:50] <djlewis> oh, that just broke your audio connection
  • [03:51:11] <thurbad> not bricked broke, but I need to test audio stuff tonight
  • [03:51:26] <djlewis> hmm
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  • [03:51:54] <djlewis> Yeah those surface mnt connectiors are not so tough
  • [03:52:24] <SAn> thurbad: couldnt you stream the audio throw lan?
  • [03:52:37] <djlewis> well, board adhesion anyway
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  • [03:53:17] <thurbad> don't think so, I need to make sure the audio format I have is playing through the onboard sound system
  • [03:53:42] <thurbad> I've been having problems with 48kHz samples
  • [03:54:31] <SAn> thurbad: do you know if jackd works?
  • [03:54:47] <thurbad> not so much
  • [03:55:48] <SAn> i read at the mail list that it doesnt work for record but i dont tried it myself
  • [03:55:50] <thurbad> or at least I don't know if it does or not
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  • [04:45:31] <ds2> Hmmm
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  • [04:52:36] <thurbad> kinda feel bad buying another C4 beagleboard.. but I guess I'm kind of stuck with it for now
  • [04:52:53] <thurbad> anyone interested in selling one :P
  • [05:03:59] <kblin> hmm, cake
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  • [05:18:49] <_av500_> thurbad: if it suits your needs, why not stay with c4?
  • [05:21:55] <thurbad> because I'd rather get an xm for not much more.. but I need the c4 for work purposes :/
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  • [05:44:18] <ynezz> thurbad: I think, that mouser have C4 in stock
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  • [05:50:03] <thurbad> hmm, they have them in stock but the image they're showing isn't a C4
  • [05:50:36] <ynezz> :)
  • [05:51:10] <ynezz> and what's that? iphone?
  • [05:52:04] <thurbad> C4 is the current revision of the beagleboard
  • [05:52:48] <ynezz> I know
  • [05:53:00] <thurbad> they show a C3, and something so ancient it doesn't have dvi or high speed usb ports
  • [05:53:24] <ynezz> no it's c4
  • [05:53:45] <ynezz> there's only usb otg port on c4
  • [05:54:14] <ynezz> there's hdmi
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  • [05:54:23] <ynezz> on that picture
  • [05:54:36] <ynezz> http://cz.mouser.com/images/beagleboard/images/landingpagetibeagleboard.jpg
  • [05:55:23] <thurbad> ??? -> <ynezz> there's only usb otg port on c4
  • [05:55:42] <thurbad> there's otg and high speed on C4
  • [05:56:30] <ynezz> ah, right, there's
  • [05:56:33] <ynezz> sorry :)
  • [05:56:57] <ynezz> http://cz.mouser.com/beagleboard/
  • [05:57:02] <ynezz> it's better picture
  • [05:57:18] <ynezz> you can write them and ask If it's c4
  • [05:58:08] <_av500_> it is c4
  • [05:58:13] <_av500_> c3 sold out long ago
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  • [05:58:22] <_av500_> i guess they did not update the pic
  • [05:58:26] <ynezz> yep
  • [05:58:41] <thurbad> ok, just want to be extra sure ~.~
  • [05:59:19] <ynezz> If you're from EU, I'm buying from them http://www.dfcdesign.cz/en/shop/cpu-moduly/omap/beagleboard-c4
  • [05:59:34] <thurbad> nope, I'm in the US
  • [06:00:07] <ynezz> specialcomputing is out of stock?
  • [06:01:43] <thurbad> yep
  • [06:02:25] <thurbad> plus they want 33% over market price
  • [06:02:49] <thurbad> and for your extra $50 they trow in a $30 case
  • [06:03:18] <ynezz> added value :)
  • [06:03:43] <thurbad> if they had it in stock I mght be tempted.. I need one immediately
  • [06:03:58] <thurbad> /mght/might/
  • [06:04:34] <ynezz> why not mouser, than?
  • [06:04:43] <thurbad> probably will go with mouser
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  • [06:30:22] <akumar> ipk for gst-plugin-mpegtsmux (arm7a) is not available on the http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo
  • [06:30:35] <akumar> where to find gst-plugin-mpegtsmux ipk.
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  • [08:28:54] <koen> akumar: have you tried doing 'opkg install gst-plugin-mpegtsmux' ?
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  • [08:48:12] <_av500_> BASIC ftw!
  • [08:48:51] <koen> Qbasic
  • [08:49:31] <mru> I can haz teh arm codes plz
  • [08:50:29] <_av500_> thou can hath thy BASICS codez
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  • [09:01:44] <Zubair> hello to all
  • [09:02:50] <Zubair> The problem with my using the beagleboard for the very first time, still persists
  • [09:02:56] <Zubair> I had copied the files
  • [09:03:21] <Zubair> but nothing on the terminal screen
  • [09:03:32] <Zubair> plz can someone tell me how to do it
  • [09:03:50] <Zubair> Actually its part of my final year project
  • [09:03:53] <Zubair> plz
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  • [09:33:36] <jacekowski> what sort of cable are you using
  • [09:33:39] <jacekowski> make photo
  • [09:33:42] <jacekowski> or something
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  • [09:39:10] <Zubair> using BD9
  • [09:39:26] <Zubair> DB-9 female to Host (PC)
  • [09:39:43] <Zubair> Beagleboard (RS232) to DB-9
  • [09:41:24] <jacekowski> and how is it connected?
  • [09:41:34] <Zubair> 3 wires
  • [09:41:40] <Zubair> RX, TX and GND
  • [09:41:56] <jacekowski> pin numbers
  • [09:42:11] <Zubair> wait a sec
  • [09:45:16] <Zubair> Beagleboard 2,3,5 with DB-9 2,3,5
  • [09:45:25] <jacekowski> wrong
  • [09:45:39] <Zubair> why
  • [09:45:41] <jacekowski> 2,3,5 with 3,2,5
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  • [09:46:07] <jacekowski> because that's what it says in manual
  • [09:46:10] <jacekowski> and everywhere
  • [09:46:20] <Zubair> wait a minute
  • [09:46:29] <Zubair> let me check via multimeter
  • [09:46:36] <jacekowski> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#RS232
  • [09:47:36] <jacekowski> .... you may need a 9-Pin NullModem cable ....
  • [09:47:38] <Zubair> O actully with the female DB-9 its ok
  • [09:47:46] <Zubair> i was refering to male DB-9
  • [09:47:57] <jacekowski> NullModem cable
  • [09:48:00] <jacekowski> with crossover
  • [09:48:20] <jacekowski> tx on bb goes to rx on pc and tx on pc goes to rx on bb
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  • [09:48:51] <jacekowski> how you managed to get trough 2 years of university without ability to read documentation
  • [09:49:07] <Zubair> actually I had done this right
  • [09:49:08] <mru> that seems to be a prerequisite these days
  • [09:49:18] <Zubair> wait wait
  • [09:49:23] <Zubair> this I had done right
  • [09:49:37] <Zubair> Had checked the serial connections
  • [09:49:40] <Zubair> and thats fine
  • [09:50:59] <jacekowski> cross them
  • [09:51:04] <jacekowski> or link them
  • [09:51:12] <jacekowski> and you will see that you will get something on screen
  • [09:51:21] <jacekowski> what baud rate are you using?
  • [09:51:41] <Zubair> 115200
  • [09:51:51] <jacekowski> 8N1 no flow controll?
  • [09:51:57] <Zubair> the RX of bb is connected with TX of comp
  • [09:52:01] <Zubair> and vice versa
  • [09:52:04] <Zubair> yeah
  • [09:52:15] <jacekowski> ok, so power it up
  • [09:52:22] <jacekowski> and check if you are getting anything on screen
  • [09:52:30] <jacekowski> and if you are getting nothing
  • [09:52:37] <Zubair> nothing comes on the screen
  • [09:52:48] <Zubair> but after sometime the usr LEDs do turn ON
  • [09:53:13] <jacekowski> ok, disconnect cable from beagleboard
  • [09:53:27] <Zubair> done
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  • [09:55:31] <Zubair> plz help me out
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  • [09:56:24] <Zubair> copied 8 files on the bb
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  • [09:56:30] <Zubair> from the site
  • [09:56:36] <Zubair> what else ????
  • [09:57:03] <koen> which files, what site?
  • [09:57:20] <Zubair> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevC3Validation
  • [09:57:32] <Zubair> copy the following files on MMC
  • [09:58:20] <jacekowski> hmm
  • [09:58:20] <koen> Zubair: you could try the instructions at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [09:58:23] <jacekowski> ok disconnect cable
  • [09:58:29] <jacekowski> connect pins 2 and 3 on your cable
  • [09:58:33] <jacekowski> on that bb side
  • [09:58:38] <jacekowski> and type something in terminal
  • [09:58:43] <jacekowski> you should get your text back
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  • [10:00:14] <Zubair> I am not getting anything
  • [10:00:32] <Zubair> but dont i have to check in the echo option
  • [10:00:37] <Zubair> for loopback test
  • [10:01:14] <jacekowski> no
  • [10:01:22] <jacekowski> if you are not getting anything
  • [10:01:26] <jacekowski> disconnect cable
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  • [10:01:37] <jacekowski> and short pins 2 and 3 on your rs232 port
  • [10:01:40] <jacekowski> and type something
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  • [10:06:33] <jacekowski> do you get anything on terminal?
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  • [10:10:15] <Zubair> wait a sec
  • [10:10:41] <Zubair> CPU is actually in a lot of mess
  • [10:11:04] <jacekowski> that's not a problem
  • [10:11:08] <jacekowski> your cable/port is a problem
  • [10:11:20] <Zubair> wait
  • [10:11:23] <Zubair> let me check
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  • [10:14:54] <Zubair> not getting anything
  • [10:15:30] <Zubair> I guess I need to change the PC
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  • [11:53:32] <chrisUSB> hi, i am experiencing USB problems on BBxm. booting androit linux with kernel 2.6.32; if i attach mouse+keyboard to the onboard USB-hub, thee boot process freezes after usb0:register 'smsc95xx'
  • [11:54:00] <chrisUSB> without keybord the system boots; hotplugging afterwards succeeds as well
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  • [12:57:25] <hitlin37> is it possible that a floating multiplication calculated by x86 n arm on single precision could differ slightly
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  • [13:03:05] <mru> are you sure it's doing the exact same calculation?
  • [13:03:15] <mru> with same rounding modes etc
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  • [13:05:32] <hitlin37> calculation is same ,need to check modes now
  • [13:05:44] <mru> show asm
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  • [13:10:50] <chrisUSB> on question regarding mounting the flash on the bb; what fs you recommend with which mount options?
  • [13:10:56] <chrisUSB> on --> one
  • [13:13:29] <mru> ubifs
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  • [13:13:59] <hitlin37> asm on arm side is as usual lik VMUL.F32 s0,s2,s0
  • [13:14:18] <mru> I need to see the entire calculation
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  • [13:15:55] <mru> preferably a small function
  • [13:16:02] <mru> with complete asm for both arm and x86
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  • [13:17:36] <SAn> hi!, i think i exposed the beagle to 9V :(
  • [13:17:52] <hitlin37> if i pastebin d c code,will dat b ok,as im doing arm stuff on simulator
  • [13:18:16] <mru> I can't say if it does the same thing without seeing asm
  • [13:18:23] <mru> and simulators are buggy
  • [13:18:27] <mru> all of them
  • [13:19:25] <mru> 9V, what has the world come to
  • [13:19:54] <mru> in the good old days, men were men and courageously applied 12V
  • [13:20:03] <ynezz> :)
  • [13:20:12] <djlewis> much more interesting outcome
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  • [13:20:37] <ynezz> even some flash and smoke sometimes
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  • [13:20:56] <SAn> i forgot to plug the adapter to lower the voltage... i am sad now, and now flash or smoke ... no party
  • [13:21:21] <buZz> send it back for warranty ;)
  • [13:21:32] <ynezz> or me for spare parts :p
  • [13:21:33] <buZz> 'i have no idea what happened, it just stopped working suddenly!'
  • [13:21:45] <ynezz> I flashed teh new Angstrom
  • [13:21:51] <buZz> play blond, but you will lose some karma points in the way
  • [13:22:05] <SAn> buZz: jejeje, i was playing a video and it does not work any more
  • [13:22:10] <ynezz> good one
  • [13:22:11] <buZz> ;)
  • [13:22:18] <buZz> works quite often
  • [13:22:30] <buZz> but something else will probably break soon after you do this
  • [13:23:20] <SAn> i think it isnt so bad, some usr led blinks, but 2141 get hot
  • [13:23:38] <buZz> maybe just the psu thats broken
  • [13:24:05] <_roger_> mru ping!
  • [13:24:08] <SAn> maybe, any idea to do a debug,
  • [13:24:12] <SAn> ?
  • [13:24:27] <ynezz> yes, validation page
  • [13:24:41] <mru> _roger_: pong
  • [13:24:43] <hitlin37> ok,will paste d asm for both ,2morrow morning,its late here,which mode to follow on both platform?or is there a default mode
  • [13:24:48] <_roger_> hey man!
  • [13:25:05] <_roger_> video wall coming together!
  • [13:25:14] <_roger_> can you help me with netsync params syntax pls?
  • [13:25:24] <mru> I forgot it
  • [13:25:25] <_roger_> -T netsync:s=1:p=99 ??
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  • [13:26:07] <djlewis> hmm, pkg left SAN PABLO, CA, US the 32st should make Memphis today.
  • [13:26:20] <djlewis> s/32st/21st
  • [13:26:20] <SAn> ynezz: well validation will not work, now when i plug from usb it does not power up, even the power LED is off
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  • [13:27:34] <ynezz> SAn: congratulations, you've finished your validation in almost no time :)
  • [13:27:41] <SAn> jejejej
  • [13:28:01] <ynezz> clear all that dark smoke from the parts
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  • [13:28:10] <ynezz> and send it for RMA
  • [13:28:16] <ynezz> :]
  • [13:28:16] <SAn> it took 5 seconds to get to the right validation page
  • [13:29:13] <ynezz> _roger_: there's some public info available about that video wall thingie?
  • [13:29:23] <SAn> ynezz: i am at argentina, maybe RMA isnt so simple
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  • [13:31:03] <ynezz> it is so simple http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCdCrcaj0Lk
  • [13:31:49] <mru> _roger_: check your email
  • [13:34:19] <SAn> ynezz: nice video!
  • [13:35:54] <mru> "This video contains content from Believe and Sony Music Entertainment. It is not available in your country. "
  • [13:35:58] <mru> nice indeed
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  • [13:38:44] <ynezz> and more to come, "This Wikileaks video is not avialable in your country. MPAA didn't approved it yet."
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  • [13:42:36] <_roger_> mru - thanks!
  • [13:43:55] <_roger_> 2 screens sync'd - you the man mru!!
  • [13:44:05] <_roger_> now for the others :)
  • [13:44:32] <mru> should be a matter of increasing the number in the script
  • [13:44:39] <mru> and starting the slave script of course
  • [13:45:14] <ynezz> you need to have separate cropped video for each screen? or can beagle handle the cropping on the fly?
  • [13:45:42] <mru> some time I'll make it wait a few seconds for slaves, then proceed with however many have arrived
  • [13:45:53] <mru> pre-cropped
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  • [13:51:23] <ynezz> seems ideal for videowalls http://www.gumstix.com/overview-stagecoach.html
  • [13:51:59] <_roger_> mru - yep, my issue with the other screens is not technical :) - gotta burn some more sd cards...
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  • [13:52:34] <mru> ynezz: apart from the lack of hdmi...
  • [13:53:06] <ynezz> there's hdmi expansion
  • [13:53:17] <ynezz> but it wouldn't fit, right
  • [13:53:42] <ynezz> and make it quite pricey
  • [13:54:29] <mru> I don't see any way to get hdmi off the overos while mounted on that
  • [13:55:23] <ynezz> maybe some special hdmi overo :)
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  • [14:01:37] <sakoman_> mru: correct, stagecoach isn't really appropriate for a video wall :-(
  • [14:02:13] <sakoman_> it would certainly be possible to do a version of stagecoach with hdmi output for all the processors
  • [14:02:22] <mru> yeah, of course
  • [14:02:32] <mru> just adding the connectors and wiring them up
  • [14:02:32] <sakoman_> schematics for stagecoach are posted on the gumstix site
  • [14:03:14] <mru> if you added the traces, it wouldn't even cost more to make sans connectors
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  • [14:14:35] <koen> Crofton|work: testlab code committed: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=fbb04403380799e20acb8e131f8e83873dc236c5
  • [14:17:22] <ynezz> koen: do you have some script for parsing of the diffs, or you do it by hand?
  • [14:17:53] <_av500_> ynezz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsqkVowgHuI
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  • [14:18:08] <ynezz> koen: I mean commit message like this:
  • [14:18:09] <ynezz> gst-plugins: add some more missing depends
  • [14:18:11] <ynezz> * spotted by the angstrom testlab: http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-testlab/commit/a87e64ae3fbe47b679712c5c873f21e56f325c8f
  • [14:18:12] <mru> ynezz: _roger_ replaced _koen_ with a very small shell script long ago
  • [14:18:17] <ynezz> :)
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  • [14:19:57] <ynezz> av500: I've already seen something like that, from fosdem I think, and I asked if there's some how-to or how does it basically work
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  • [14:20:48] <koen> ynezz: no, I currently inspect them by hand
  • [14:21:05] <mru> one beast, one bunny, six beagles
  • [14:21:14] <mru> the bunny and the beast...
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  • [14:22:08] <ynezz> av500: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/2d93de9fee55ceb7 :)
  • [14:25:01] <ynezz> but ok, it's pre-cropped video, one BB as netsync master and other BBs as slaves
  • [14:25:05] <_av500_> ynezz: yes, fosdem video is there as well
  • [14:25:39] <_av500_> opps, i will write up something :)
  • [14:25:52] <ynezz> pre-cropping is similar to this, right? http://pastie.org/1169724
  • [14:26:12] <ynezz> movie as source instead of the PNGs
  • [14:26:15] <Crofton|work> koen, that creates the needed repo if it does not exist?
  • [14:26:22] <mru> that looks like the script someone used to encode the bunny videos
  • [14:26:28] <ynezz> mru: yep
  • [14:26:50] <_av500_> ynezz: yes
  • [14:26:52] <ynezz> but the PNG as source? :p
  • [14:26:58] <_av500_> jannau script
  • [14:27:04] <mru> blender outputs png
  • [14:27:09] <ynezz> ah!
  • [14:27:23] <mru> you could feed it any supported file
  • [14:27:34] <mru> might need to adjust the crop offsets
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  • [14:28:48] <ynezz> I wish I have time to play with it, have BBs and LCDs, but -ENOTIME, it's nice promotion of open software/hardware technology
  • [14:29:31] <ynezz> but it seems like it could be done it few hours
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  • [14:29:59] <mru> rendering bunny took a long time
  • [14:30:02] <koen> Crofton|work: no, not yet
  • [14:30:07] <mru> ~100 days
  • [14:30:13] <ynezz> oh
  • [14:30:29] <mru> we don't have a huge render farm
  • [14:30:55] <thurbad> the bunny vid was done in blender|
  • [14:30:57] <thurbad> ?
  • [14:31:02] <mru> yes
  • [14:31:17] <thurbad> ... I hate you guys :P
  • [14:31:28] <ynezz> it's really dope
  • [14:31:31] <mru> we didn't create the film
  • [14:31:39] <koen> Crofton|work: but it's only a 'git init' away
  • [14:31:39] <mru> blender guys did that
  • [14:32:01] <buZz> i like that blender game that they published some time ago
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  • [15:00:55] <mmarker> Ok...so why does the BB seem to attract great hackers.
  • [15:01:22] * mmarker reads basic code for the first time in 20 years
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  • [15:03:38] <mru> basic "code" is not exactly the staple of a great hacker...
  • [15:09:17] <zumbi> once upon a time all we had was basic
  • [15:10:14] <djlewis> real programmers began with binary
  • [15:10:36] <djlewis> building up into a assy source
  • [15:10:47] <mru> real programmers began with plug boards
  • [15:11:05] <djlewis> now that is reflecting back into the dark ages of computing
  • [15:11:41] <djlewis> any pic's
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  • [15:13:41] * mru wasn't there
  • [15:13:50] <mru> I'm not that old
  • [15:13:55] <djlewis> lol
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  • [15:18:32] <mru> we'll turn you into one
  • [15:18:59] <emeb> koen keeps saying that. I don't believe him
  • [15:19:16] <emeb> djlewis: here ya go - http://www.analogmuseum.org/english/examples/lorenz_attractor/
  • [15:19:18] <djlewis> yeah, seems he manages somehow
  • [15:19:53] <djlewis> hmm early lego's
  • [15:21:46] <djlewis> emeb: i can almost smell the old in that contraption ;)
  • [15:22:14] * emeb is still smelling screwdrivers
  • [15:22:51] <emeb> djlewis: actually Legos predate that analog computer by about 15 years
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  • [16:44:55] <mang> i really need 8 core cpu + ssd hd
  • [16:45:01] <mang> waiting on bitbake drives me mad
  • [16:45:43] <djlewis> how about I sell you eight p-III 800's for a cluster ;)
  • [16:46:15] <mang> ha, not sure this is best power utilization
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  • [17:16:27] <ynezz> mang: what setup do you have? I'm using OE/Angstrom on laptop with Core2Duo T7100 CPU and 2GB RAM and it's usable :)
  • [17:16:57] <ynezz> mang: well, it's not for everyday compilation of beagle-demo-image
  • [17:16:58] <emeb> Ceriand|work: tried out the USB changes last night
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  • [17:17:31] <emeb> didn't work though - http://pastebin.ca/1947646
  • [17:18:10] <emeb> same result with & without USB key in the EHCI socket
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  • [17:18:47] <Ceriand|work> yea, you might have to reset the phy after resetting the EHCI controller
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  • [17:19:34] <emeb> ah - need to toggle the GPIO bit somewhere after initializing the internal stuff?
  • [17:20:44] <Ceriand|work> yeah, pretty much
  • [17:21:28] <Ceriand|work> or you could try the soft-reset code that I have commented out in drivers/usb/host/ehci-omap3.c
  • [17:22:07] <emeb> OK - seems I need to try & actually understand this :)
  • [17:22:12] <emeb> not just cookbook it...
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  • [17:37:41] <emeb> soft-reset is worse - just hung @ "USB:"
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  • [17:39:45] <awozniak> what does "SBL" stand for? The omap35xx tech manual talks about camera ISP SBL
  • [17:42:59] <awozniak> shared buffer logic
  • [17:43:37] * Russ just realized how awesome it would be to have a 3d monitor for pcb layout
  • [17:43:52] <Ceriand|work> emeb: if you could post a patch for your changes, I'll take a look at it on my BB over lunch
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  • [17:46:44] <emeb> Ceriand|work: OK - I'll get that together.
  • [17:50:19] <emeb> oooh - put in a hardware reset & got further...
  • [17:50:54] <emeb> http://pastebin.ca/1947675
  • [17:51:05] <Ceriand|work> nice
  • [17:51:31] <emeb> removing the USB key changes that to 0 devices
  • [17:52:07] <emeb> (0 storage devices found)
  • [17:54:30] <Ceriand|work> does it load a zImage if there's one on there?
  • [17:54:51] <emeb> there is one on there but it doesn't seem to see it and hangs there
  • [17:55:03] <Ceriand|work> hmm...
  • [17:55:29] <emeb> here's the patch - http://pastebin.ca/1947680
  • [17:55:52] <emeb> (just a git diff)
  • [17:57:57] <Ceriand|work> emeb: did you add CONFIG_LOAD_LINUX to the config file?
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  • [17:58:45] <emeb> no, but if there are zImage & cmdline on the MMC it loads them.
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  • [17:59:05] <emeb> so I figured it was already set...
  • [17:59:13] <Ceriand|work> emeb: if you don't define it, it'll look for u-boot.bin instead of zImage
  • [17:59:23] <emeb> no, it finds zImage
  • [18:00:30] <emeb> just checked the config file - CONFIG_LOAD_LINUX is set
  • [18:00:38] <emeb> but not by me :)
  • [18:00:49] <Ceriand|work> yea, I probably added it when I was testing the linux stuff
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  • [18:12:23] <emeb> changing to a different USB key doesn't change behavior
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  • [18:22:58] <prpplague> _av500_: ping
  • [18:23:28] <_av500_> pong
  • [18:24:54] <prpplague> _av500_: hey, question, i'm tinkering with doing a fresh build of froyo and hacking some of the code
  • [18:25:34] <prpplague> _av500_: is there something special i need to do to have the make understand that some of the code has changed? or should a simple make rebuild from the source that has changed?
  • [18:26:19] <prpplague> _av500_: doh sorry, wrong channel
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  • [18:27:14] <spin76> greetings and salutations, all
  • [18:28:53] <spin76> i have a bricked BB, and would appreciate some help. I've gone through the BBSRM, as well as the BB Validation as per this website: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevC3Validation
  • [18:29:05] <koen> you can't brick a beagle due to the ROM loader
  • [18:29:11] <spin76> But alas, I can't get past this point: http://imgur.com/vHBax.jpg
  • [18:30:37] <spin76> If "bricked" is not the proper term, can you help me identify what the issue is here?
  • [18:31:07] <koen> it's not detecting MLO
  • [18:31:29] <spin76> And how can I fix this issue/
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  • [18:34:50] <spin76> @koen ... this is the contents of the SD Card: http://imgur.com/M6uc8.jpg
  • [18:35:01] <spin76> note I am using Rev C4
  • [18:35:28] <spin76> Also, "NOTE: If the board is a Rev C4, use the files located here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ instead of the ones listed above."
  • [18:36:00] <spin76> I used the files from the Angstrom Distribution website ... there are lots listed in that link. Which ones would you use/
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  • [18:37:07] <djlewis_> spin76: http://www.google.com/search?q=beagleboard+40w&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
  • [18:39:04] <djlewis_> spin76: a easy way is to get the sd-image, follow instructions on /Demo
  • [18:39:19] * emeb dreams of an IRC client with buttons to automatically answer FAQs
  • [18:39:59] <djlewis_> emeb: yes, no homework was done here.
  • [18:40:24] <spin76> Isn't this channel there for the purpose of helping one another out? You think I haven't tried the demo websites, and the FAQs?
  • [18:40:56] <spin76> For some of us who are thrown into the deep end of the pool when it comes to open source hardware/software ... this is a huge learning curve
  • [18:41:24] <emeb> spin76: no one is accusing you of not researching this
  • [18:41:27] <djlewis_> spin76: yeah I been there, but i do try to look in every corner for info first
  • [18:41:37] <emeb> but it is a common question
  • [18:42:01] <emeb> and you haven't yet said that you were aware of the potential answer and had tried the common fixes
  • [18:42:17] <spin76> djlewis, I realize that, but I've been fighting with this board for the past week or two. My employer expects results, and soon. With the documentation online (which is not noob friendly), this has been a rather difficult process
  • [18:42:51] <spin76> I've tried building and rebuilding the SD cards, followed the instructions to the dot, but still am running into issues. It's rather frustrating
  • [18:43:01] <emeb> *nod*
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  • [18:43:53] <emeb> spin76: when you build the SD card what OS & tools do you use?
  • [18:44:02] * djlewis_ might be more helpful if his hands weren't fullof lunch
  • [18:44:07] <spin76> I've got a laptop beside me with Ubunto 10.04 live
  • [18:44:13] <emeb> good start
  • [18:44:22] <emeb> do you use the mkcard.sh script?
  • [18:44:23] <spin76> I've been using Disk Utility and Gparted to build the SD card
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  • [18:44:40] * emeb uses mkcard.sh - works every time
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  • [18:44:52] <spin76> I've tried the mkcard script, but it didn't produce any results (terminal fires up for a second, and disappears) ... so maybe I'm not using it correctly?
  • [18:45:04] <emeb> maybe
  • [18:45:24] <spin76> I've used the mkcard.txt script here: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [18:45:35] <emeb> that's the one
  • [18:45:39] <spin76> in Ubuntu, I ran it as an executable file
  • [18:45:46] <emeb> yep
  • [18:45:48] <mikey_w> Did you look at the script. Do you follow the logic?
  • [18:45:48] <koen> you need to give it the sd card as argument
  • [18:45:51] <emeb> do you give it a device?
  • [18:46:04] <emeb> as in "./mkcard.sh /dev/sdX"
  • [18:46:16] <spin76> As far as looking at the script and following the logic, I'm afraid I'm not a programmer, therefore, I'm unsure of what the code means
  • [18:46:32] <emeb> that's a problem - these tools don't hold your hand
  • [18:46:33] <spin76> I made sure that I put in the correct location for the sc card
  • [18:46:44] <spin76> sd*
  • [18:46:49] <emeb> yep
  • [18:46:59] <mmarker> Uhoh. Uphill alert.
  • [18:47:20] <spin76> emeb, that's been the primary source of my frustration
  • [18:47:41] <mikey_w> You may need sudo.
  • [18:47:47] <spin76> tried the sudo command
  • [18:47:49] <emeb> +1
  • [18:48:07] <spin76> i can fire it up once again, and give it a shot
  • [18:48:12] <mikey_w> What are the scripts permissions?
  • [18:48:12] <mmarker> Oh, is there a place to share overlays for openembedded. Adding some packages to my bb build...and wanted to make sure I'm not duplicating work.
  • [18:48:17] <emeb> sometimes I find sudo doesn't bring the cmd args along properly
  • [18:48:42] <spin76> i used chmod 777 on the sd card to make sure it can read/write on the sd card
  • [18:48:52] <mmarker> I am a freak. audi- s
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  • [18:49:11] <mmarker> Grr. sudo. -s
  • [18:49:16] <mikey_w> What are the script's permissions?
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  • [18:49:36] <koen> mmarker: send patches to the angstrom-devel list
  • [18:49:37] <mikey_w> Is it even executable?
  • [18:50:06] <spin76> mikey, are you referring to the mkcard.txt script?
  • [18:50:32] <mikey_w> no, mkcard.sh
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  • [18:51:04] <spin76> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ --> mkcard.txt ... I saved that in ubuntu, and made it into an executable file
  • [18:51:31] <mikey_w> "./mkcard.sh /dev/sd?"
  • [18:51:31] <spin76> Is it absolutely imperative to have the .sh extension/
  • [18:52:09] <mmarker> koen : gotcha. Trying to get freeswitch and slim running.
  • [18:52:10] <mikey_w> You don't even know if it's a script, do you?
  • [18:52:44] <mmarker> koen: gpe is just too broken for my taste on BB :(
  • [18:52:45] <spin76> i will give it a shot again. i did know it was a script that would make the filesystem for you
  • [18:53:12] <mikey_w> What's the first 4 lines of the mkdisk.txt file?
  • [18:53:21] <spin76> comments if i recall correctly
  • [18:53:26] <spin76> lemme look at it again
  • [18:54:34] <Ceriand|work> emeb: on x-load, what does "objdump -h -j .bss x-load" report for you?
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  • [18:55:25] <ds2> morning
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  • [18:55:38] <_av500_> gm ds2
  • [18:55:47] <emeb> Ceriand|work: http://pastebin.ca/1947737
  • [18:56:03] <emeb> gm ds2
  • [18:56:47] <djlewis_> ds2: morning and the rest of yu'n too
  • [18:56:58] <emeb> Ceriand|work: size+VMA < FF00
  • [18:57:11] <Ceriand|work> supposed to be < f000
  • [18:57:30] <emeb> Ah - F920 violates stack space?
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  • [18:57:37] <Ceriand|work> yep
  • [18:57:43] <emeb> that explains the hang
  • [18:58:01] <wwcv> anyone using 2.6.35 and nfs root?
  • [18:58:02] <emeb> Beagle must have more code than spark
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  • [18:58:20] <Ceriand|work> yea, spark doesn't have the I2C or NAND stuff compiled in
  • [18:58:29] <emeb> that's it
  • [18:59:26] <emeb> wonder what can be tossed...
  • [18:59:38] <emeb> what's the I2C doing in x-loader anyway?
  • [19:00:22] * djlewis_ suspects to identify devices
  • [19:00:31] <koen> mmarker: have a look at http://git.openpandora.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openpandora.oe.git;a=tree;f=recipes/slim;h=6ac85b55ec8fb1d600bdc0322b0a61c50520e290;hb=HEAD
  • [19:00:49] <koen> mmarker: the openpandora folks aren't rushing to contribute back, so I guess other people need to help
  • [19:00:55] <emeb> djlewis_: I thought that was a function of u-boot, not x-loader
  • [19:01:08] <Ceriand|work> emeb: I2C needs to be there to init the 3V supply for MMC
  • [19:01:26] <emeb> Ceriand|work: ah - talking to the TWL
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  • [19:01:40] <mmarker> Koen: gggrrrrrr
  • [19:02:18] <djlewis_> ok, so early I2C work
  • [19:02:41] <emeb> yep
  • [19:03:01] <wwcv> tried oldconfig from a working 2.6.29 build and omap3_beagle_defconfig
  • [19:03:25] * _av500_ waits for xloader to get a scheduler
  • [19:03:32] <wwcv> but it won't mount: Root-NFS: Server returned error -110 while mounting /srv/beagle
  • [19:03:44] <wwcv> wireshark says the board keeps sending out ARP requests but never gets a response
  • [19:03:48] * Ceriand|work considered adding in an ELF loader to x-load
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  • [19:04:18] <wwcv> -110 looks like a connection timeout
  • [19:05:06] <emeb> x-loader prolly needs to use CH to start SDRAM and use that for stack
  • [19:06:15] <emeb> this x-loader could work fine on xM if NAND stuff is deleted tho
  • [19:07:19] <Ceriand|work> you could also relocate the stack after the board file has setup SDRAM
  • [19:07:41] <Ceriand|work> the stack doesn't go very deep until you start the MMC/USB stuff
  • [19:08:05] <emeb> true
  • [19:08:18] <Ceriand|work> there's also 0x800 bytes of wasted space at the beginning of SRAM where the old stack used to be
  • [19:08:30] <Ceriand|work> before I moved it to the end of public SRAM
  • [19:08:49] <emeb> is that used or is it just a linker change?
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  • [19:09:18] <Ceriand|work> it's not used anymore, so it'd just be a linker and MLO signer change
  • [19:09:46] <emeb> That would _almost_ be enough. Not quite though...
  • [19:10:20] <Ceriand|work> also, if you decrease the number of possible USB devices from 4 to 2, that would also save quite a bit of RAM
  • [19:10:39] <Ceriand|work> those USB descriptor structs are quite large
  • [19:10:54] <emeb> that sounds workable - just changing an array def somewhere?
  • [19:11:14] <Ceriand|work> yea, near the top of include/usb.h
  • [19:11:37] * emeb looks
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  • [19:11:59] <Ceriand|work> each USB descriptor struct is 1352 bytes long
  • [19:12:13] <emeb> USB_MAX_DEVICE?
  • [19:12:20] <Ceriand|work> yea
  • [19:12:26] <emeb> quick try...
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  • [19:15:34] <emeb> nope - not enough
  • [19:16:05] <emeb> but if the bottom 0x800 were free it might be
  • [19:16:20] <emeb> need to figure out how to squeeze that down
  • [19:17:58] <Ceriand|work> it's in board/omap3530beagle/config.mk
  • [19:18:31] <Ceriand|work> you'll also have to change the header info that gets added to x-load.bin to make MLO
  • [19:18:37] <Ceriand|work> see scripts/signgp.c
  • [19:20:40] <wwcv> interesting .. 2.6.33 works (make oldconfig with the .35 config)
  • [19:21:02] <wwcv> nothing i really *need* .35 for, so i'll stick with this
  • [19:21:35] <spin76> Update on my end: I got the mkcard.txt script from this website: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ --> I then copy pasted the script into gedit, saved the file (executable) as mkcard.sh --> run the file in terminal. nothing happens. what am i doing wrong/
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  • [19:34:57] <djlewis_> spin76: is mkcard.sh set as executable?
  • [19:39:22] <spin76> yep
  • [19:40:02] <spin76> I right click on the file, properties, permissions tab, and click on "Allow executing file as program"
  • [19:40:27] <spin76> when i double click on the file itself, terminal fires up for a millisecond, and is killed right away
  • [19:41:37] <koen> that won't work, doubleclicking
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  • [20:18:34] <emeb> looks like it's partly a matter of changing board/*/config.mk:TEXT_BASE from 0x40200800 to 0x40200000
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  • [20:24:48] <emeb> and scripts/signgp.c: loadaddr = 0x40200000
  • [20:24:54] <emeb> Ceriand|work: that worked!
  • [20:25:42] <emeb> loaded zImage and cmdline from the USB stick.
  • [20:26:10] <Ceriand|work> emeb: nice!
  • [20:26:55] <emeb> thanks for all the help with this
  • [20:27:00] <Ceriand|work> np
  • [20:28:37] * emeb wonders what to do with this now...
  • [20:29:50] <Ceriand|work> take over the world?
  • [20:30:04] <emeb> heh
  • [20:30:21] <emeb> it's a neat bit of functionality, but not something I'd use often
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  • [20:31:18] <emeb> would you be interested in getting my changes into your git?
  • [20:31:25] <Ceriand|work> sure
  • [20:31:39] <emeb> I should clean it up a bit 1st
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  • [20:32:02] <emeb> not sure if that hardware reset is kosher
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  • [20:32:27] <Ceriand|work> yea, you might want to use the timer-based udelay instead of the asm snippet
  • [20:32:36] <mru> emeb: as long as you don't mix it with dairy products it should be fine
  • [20:32:53] <emeb> and the TEXT_BASE change would have to be pushed to the other cpus too
  • [20:33:31] <emeb> mru: you're saying this is a meat-based code?
  • [20:34:03] <mru> I can't be certain it's not
  • [20:34:13] <emeb> err on the side of caution...
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  • [20:34:31] <_av500_> emeb: usb support in uboot?
  • [20:34:42] <emeb> _av500_: in x-loader
  • [20:35:02] <_av500_> otg or ehci?
  • [20:35:05] <emeb> ehci
  • [20:35:23] <_av500_> based on what patches?
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  • [20:35:53] <emeb> Ceriand|work's git repo for his product + some minor tweaks for BB
  • [20:36:22] <_av500_> ic
  • [20:36:35] <emeb> yep - no u-boot required
  • [20:36:40] <_av500_> we have ehci support here for our boot loader too
  • [20:37:05] <emeb> nice
  • [20:37:11] <_av500_> and there were some uboot ehci patches on the net to be found
  • [20:37:31] <emeb> I think sakoman_ was looking at these too
  • [20:37:44] <_av500_> emeb: git url?
  • [20:37:57] <_av500_> for "eriand|work's git repo"?
  • [20:38:01] <_av500_> +C
  • [20:38:09] <emeb> http://gitorious.org/spark-sls/x-load
  • [20:38:39] <_av500_> ah, thats the spark reference :)
  • [20:38:49] <emeb> yep
  • [20:39:03] <emeb> cute little handheld lab/edu product
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  • [20:39:48] <_av500_> ah, so its the juniper patches after all
  • [20:39:59] <_av500_> emeb: cute url?
  • [20:40:29] <emeb> http://www.pasco.com/featured-products/spark/index.cfm
  • [20:40:35] <_av500_> thx
  • [20:40:42] <Ceriand|work> _av500_: it's the ehci/usb core from u-boot with a hastily ported omap part from the linux driver
  • [20:41:32] <_av500_> Ceriand|work: sounds familiar :)
  • [20:43:09] <emeb> Ceriand|work: whats the best way to include the PHY reset for BB w/o breaking it for other stuff?
  • [20:43:18] <emeb> config #define?
  • [20:43:39] <Ceriand|work> probably not the best solution in the long run, but that'll work
  • [20:44:08] <emeb> 'k
  • [20:44:28] <Ceriand|work> a board_reset_phy() function in the board file might be better
  • [20:45:18] <emeb> *nod*
  • [20:45:35] <emeb> then I'd have to put in stubs for the other archs, eh?
  • [20:46:05] <Ceriand|work> you could just add a new CONFIG_USB_PHY_RESET #define
  • [20:46:27] <Ceriand|work> and put some ifdef's around the call in ehci-omap3.c
  • [20:46:32] <emeb> yep - a little bit of both
  • [20:46:56] <_av500_> btw, (androids) fastboot is also quite nice
  • [20:47:13] <emeb> OK - a few things to do and I'll see about pushing that.
  • [20:47:14] <_av500_> being able to flash parts of emmc via otg usb
  • [20:48:01] <emeb> _av500_: is that how your stuff does updates / unbricks?
  • [20:48:25] <_av500_> not really. but for dev work is cool
  • [20:48:48] <_av500_> being able to flahs a new kernel in a few s
  • [20:48:55] <emeb> true
  • [20:49:10] <_av500_> or even to push a new bootloader
  • [20:49:27] <_av500_> or boot logo etc..
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  • [20:53:16] <emeb> so it's just a mode of the bootloader?
  • [20:53:49] <_av500_> more or less
  • [20:53:58] <emeb> if its on a host's usb it waits a bit for commands before loading the kernel
  • [20:53:58] <_av500_> its a usb protocoll
  • [20:54:20] <_av500_> the bootloader inits otg and then it can reciever fastboot commands
  • [20:55:08] <_av500_> we still have a serial bootloader shell
  • [20:55:31] <`26> Say, where would I go if I wanted a dirt-cheap ~7-10 inch LCD touchscreen to go with a Beagleboard?
  • [20:56:01] <`26> Extra points if it has touchscreen support.
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  • [20:56:23] * emeb contemplates an LCD touchscreen w/o touchscreen support
  • [20:57:00] <`26> Sorry, I'm an idiot at times.
  • [20:57:05] <emeb> :)
  • [20:57:14] <`26> I'm a little excited as I just discovered the Beagleboard-xM
  • [20:57:20] <`26> By a little, I mean a lot.
  • [20:57:27] <emeb> get in line
  • [20:57:35] <Crofton|work> I am over the xm
  • [20:57:41] <_av500_> `26: buy a cheap 7" android tablet and gut it
  • [20:57:59] <emeb> Crofton|work: what's on your wishlist now?
  • [20:58:08] <_av500_> steak sandwich?
  • [20:58:19] <emeb> mmmm... steak
  • [20:58:22] <`26> But buying an LCD touchscreen without the processor and memory and carcasse should cost less than a full Android tablet!
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  • [20:58:42] <emeb> `26: you'd be surprised
  • [20:58:57] <emeb> small qty purchase of LCD panels has a surprising markup
  • [20:59:05] <_av500_> `26: you know somebody named `54?
  • [20:59:14] <`26> Darn.
  • [20:59:14] * emeb was waiting for that
  • [20:59:17] <`26> Don't they sell replacements for broken ones?
  • [20:59:25] <`26> _av500_: nope, never seen him/her.
  • [20:59:36] * `54 waves
  • [20:59:40] <emeb> `26: check DX - they sell some stuff like that
  • [20:59:40] <`26> ohai
  • [21:00:11] <emeb> but you'd still need an interface board + driver mods for your kernel.
  • [21:00:25] <`26> I imagine DX would also be the place to go if I wanted a nice battery, right?
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  • [21:01:10] <emeb> `26 if you want a complete package of portable BB w/ touchscreen check liquidware
  • [21:01:28] <emeb> http://www.liquidware.com/
  • [21:01:33] <emeb> not cheap tho
  • [21:01:37] <Crofton|work> anyone know how to tell if memory leak is in kernel space or user space?
  • [21:01:58] <mru> kill userspace and see if it goes away
  • [21:02:03] <_av500_> or kill kernel
  • [21:02:15] <mru> then userspace goes away
  • [21:02:19] <emeb> use UV light to look for stains a-la CSI?
  • [21:02:22] <mru> ergo, userspace is a leak
  • [21:02:52] <_av500_> i think kernel memory tastes more metallic...
  • [21:02:52] <Crofton|work> I am pretty sure it is user space
  • [21:03:03] <Crofton|work> my code is perfect :)
  • [21:03:08] <mru> kernel is leaking users
  • [21:03:13] <`26> Cheap for me means under 200$.
  • [21:03:19] <_av500_> wow
  • [21:03:26] <_av500_> do you need a bridge?
  • [21:03:27] <emeb> `26: missed it by $49
  • [21:03:34] <mru> someone's on a budget...
  • [21:03:49] <`26> Because 180$ beagleboard + 200$ LCD + 70$ battery = 450$ tablet!
  • [21:04:08] <_av500_> add 50 and you have an ipad...
  • [21:04:09] <mru> or you could just buy a touchbook
  • [21:05:26] <koen> or an archos tablet
  • [21:05:34] <`26> Yeah, I thought about an Archos tablet.
  • [21:05:43] <_av500_> think more about it :)
  • [21:06:02] <emeb> not that anyone here has a vested interest or anything...
  • [21:06:03] <mru> think more, think big, think _av500_
  • [21:06:07] <`26> I am!
  • [21:06:53] <_av500_> it will even be hackable
  • [21:06:59] <_av500_> aka put your own code
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  • [21:08:02] <dm8tbr> _av500_: will that allow fastboot?
  • [21:08:12] <_av500_> dunno
  • [21:08:19] <mru> hackable == you'll have to fix it yourself
  • [21:08:23] <emeb> _av500_: any chance of buying the little kapton flex circuit serial cables?
  • [21:09:05] <_av500_> emeb: :) it means to open the unit and solder to some pads
  • [21:09:14] <mru> ipads?
  • [21:09:22] <emeb> ah - no soldering until warranty expires...
  • [21:09:22] <_av500_> apads
  • [21:09:36] <_av500_> emeb: ok, you'll get a short one then :)
  • [21:09:40] <mru> emeb: warranty expires when you solder
  • [21:10:17] <emeb> I'll just send it to Gerald
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  • [21:10:34] * dm8tbr has hacked enough archos hardware to know that UART is nice, but if you can't have it then g_serial also does the job pretty well
  • [21:10:48] <_av500_> mru: when i even start thinking of soldering, im usually past caring for the warranty
  • [21:10:58] <emeb> does g_serial work during bootloader?
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  • [21:11:02] <_av500_> nope
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  • [21:11:14] <dm8tbr> it needs a kernel
  • [21:11:26] <dm8tbr> it works in initramfs though
  • [21:11:30] <_av500_> but good point, ill take that to the team
  • [21:11:53] <emeb> kewl
  • [21:12:10] <_av500_> the "hack it" part is not yet finished
  • [21:12:21] <emeb> what's involved?
  • [21:12:29] <mru> a hacksaw?
  • [21:12:30] <dm8tbr> they can just recycle our initramfs from gen7
  • [21:12:51] <dm8tbr> clean up bubu's mess a bit though
  • [21:12:54] <_av500_> dm8tbr: can you somehow lose it on a usb stick when you visit next time?
  • [21:13:10] <dm8tbr> _av500_: it's in gitorious I hear
  • [21:13:12] <_av500_> thats how we aquire sw usually :)
  • [21:13:24] <emeb> 2010 sneakernet
  • [21:13:34] <dm8tbr> bubu suddenly decided that svn is no longer 'hip'
  • [21:13:49] <emeb> go oldskool - RCS?
  • [21:13:50] <mru> was it ever?
  • [21:13:52] <_av500_> yes, but some people like to drive old cars
  • [21:14:05] * _av500_ setups up a shared ftp account
  • [21:14:13] <_av500_> sets up
  • [21:14:17] <koen> dm8tbr: svn says it is "cvs, but better"
  • [21:14:25] <ynezz> gbidsp
  • [21:14:33] <koen> that's like saying "poking yourself in the eye, but with a less sharp stick"
  • [21:14:59] <mru> at least the stick doesn't have branches
  • [21:15:10] <koen> :)
  • [21:15:14] <emeb> groan
  • [21:16:52] <dm8tbr> oh f'in lovely, the git thing disappeared
  • [21:17:04] <emeb> git is no longer hip
  • [21:17:44] <koen> everyone is using bizar now
  • [21:17:55] <koen> at least according to the ubuntu folks
  • [21:18:15] <emeb> coming up next: kathidrel
  • [21:18:51] <dm8tbr> and then there are the other things like mercurial
  • [21:19:10] <mru> and bizarre
  • [21:20:16] <emeb> whatever you do, don't go to 'www.bizar.com'
  • [21:20:42] <dm8tbr> _av500_: http://gitorious.org/archos-buildroots/gen7/blobs/master/initramfs/init
  • [21:21:03] <dm8tbr> OOPS, did I just 'accidentially' posted our initramfs init link ;)
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  • [21:21:24] <_av500_> and damn, i stumbled and fell onto the link
  • [21:21:37] <dm8tbr> _av500_: if you don't want to use kevin's fbmenu, then ask niklas to GPL his code for your menu
  • [21:21:48] * emeb boggles at this flagrant violation of corporate data policy
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  • [21:23:53] <_av500_> emeb: it's not BASIC, so I cannot read it anyway
  • [21:24:20] <emeb> saw that - lolled
  • [21:24:57] * emeb wonders who wrote a BASIC interp for the OMAP
  • [21:25:20] <dm8tbr> and if M$ will sue them
  • [21:25:42] <mru> do they have a patent on sucking?
  • [21:26:32] <_av500_> emeb: might be part of wince
  • [21:26:34] <dm8tbr> I thought MS had some quite exclusive rights to BASIC interpreters
  • [21:27:31] <mru> as on the C64?
  • [21:27:42] <mru> the omap has a C64
  • [21:27:47] <mru> that's where the basic runs
  • [21:27:55] <_av500_> yes
  • [21:28:27] <emeb> sinclair zx81?
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  • [21:43:52] <sakoman_> koen: did you ever get a chance to look at the Beagle xM expansion board patch in my repository?
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  • [21:45:17] <sakoman_> koen: http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb7bd97164cc6d5ad4356164d1dae42c6b4d9046
  • [21:45:34] <sakoman_> want to get your OK before I submit it to the u-boot list
  • [21:46:33] <emeb> My board is in there so I approve. :)
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  • [21:50:28] <sakoman_> emeb: could I twist your arm to build from that repo and see if it actually works with your board?
  • [21:51:01] <emeb> sakoman_: sure. I don't have an xM tho.
  • [21:51:22] <sakoman_> should work with any beagle
  • [21:51:30] <emeb> OK - I'll let you know
  • [21:51:37] <sakoman_> and any testing is better than none :-)
  • [21:51:53] <sakoman_> it is the omp4-exp branch of my u-boot repo
  • [21:52:11] <emeb> gotcha
  • [21:52:26] <sakoman_> has a couple handfull of patches on top of current u-boot mainline
  • [21:52:48] <sakoman_> I don't have any expansion boards for beagle so I can't test
  • [21:52:55] <emeb> OK
  • [21:54:06] <sakoman_> emeb: the i2c error that gets displayed is a known issue, researching the cause is still on my todo list before I submit
  • [21:54:19] <emeb> I'll watch for that
  • [21:54:45] <sakoman_> koen's original code prints an "ignore this error" message, but I want to see if I can eliminate the message
  • [21:55:09] <sakoman_> the message doesn't get displayed on Overo, so I want to figure out what is different
  • [21:58:50] <_av500_> sakoman_: you put an if(overo){dont print msg} :)
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  • [21:59:15] <mru> if (archos) {pm _av500_}
  • [21:59:36] <sakoman_> _av500_: you mean if(beagle){dont print msg}, since the error is on beagle!
  • [22:00:08] <mru> #if overo #define error success
  • [22:12:10] <`26> How exactly does Beagleboard-xM's performance scale comparatively to x86 processors, for example, the Intel Atom?
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  • [22:16:20] <spin76> Can anyone tell me where I am going wrong in trying to get the BB Rev C4 to boot from MCC ... I have a 2gb SanDisk SD card. I am using Disk Utility in Ubuntu 10.04 Live to format the drive to FAT32. I place the SD Card Configuration files onto the card, in order (as per Pg. 131 in the BBSRM). I then place the SD card into the beagleboard. I hold the user button, plug power in. And all I see in console is the 40W characters. I've been a
  • [22:18:37] <_av500_> something worng with the card
  • [22:19:02] <spin76> I've tried FAT16 as well ...
  • [22:19:19] <djlewis_> caard not inserted properly? there is a point of resistance during insertion then it goes in untill the gold pins lift slightly.
  • [22:19:55] <djlewis_> sometimes those pins get mangled by improper card insertion
  • [22:19:56] <spin76> Card inserted properly :(
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  • [22:21:03] <spin76> I just got my hands on another SD Card. I'm going to try this for the bajillionth time
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  • [22:21:20] <spin76> format to FAT in disk utility (ubuntu)?
  • [22:22:36] <djlewis_> i'd try a clean card just using the mkcard.sh method under "How to Unpack and Boot the Demo Image" on http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ below downloads.
  • [22:22:50] <djlewis_> spin76: i only use fdisk under Ubuntu
  • [22:23:00] <djlewis_> to setup the card manually
  • [22:23:09] <djlewis_> mkcard.sh does this for you
  • [22:23:38] <sakoman_> djlewis_: right, I suspect the issue is trying to use Disk Utility instead of the command line tools
  • [22:23:53] <spin76> i've tried that script. i'll explain what i've done with it. can you tell me if it's correct? Get the script off that site. Paste into GEdit. Save as mkcard.sh, making sure it's an executable file.
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  • [22:24:20] <spin76> I then Alt+F2 to run the file in terminal. Terminal will fire up for a millisecond, then quit.
  • [22:24:28] <spin76> Is it supposed to do that/
  • [22:24:52] <sakoman_> the script takes much longer than a millisecond
  • [22:25:07] <emeb> sakoman_: I've got a n00b issue here
  • [22:25:21] <emeb> u-boot.bin built OK
  • [22:25:28] <sakoman_> emeb: what is the question?
  • [22:25:35] <sakoman_> er . . . issue
  • [22:25:45] <emeb> but my C2 BB won't load the u-boot.bin from SD
  • [22:26:05] <emeb> even when holding down user button during reset
  • [22:26:12] <sakoman_> what message do you get?
  • [22:26:15] <emeb> always loads from NAND
  • [22:26:44] <sakoman_> hmm . . . might be time to reformat the fat partition
  • [22:26:51] <emeb> yeah
  • [22:26:53] <sakoman_> I have to do that every once in a while
  • [22:27:03] <emeb> this one's kinda crusty
  • [22:27:18] <emeb> I'll try and get back
  • [22:27:20] <sakoman_> MLO just decides it doesn't like the current state of fat and refuses to find u-boot
  • [22:27:34] <emeb> stUpid MLO
  • [22:27:38] <sakoman_> had to do that just this morning
  • [22:27:50] * sakoman_ hates x-load/mlo
  • [22:28:14] <emeb> Try Ceriand|work's x-loader :)
  • [22:28:15] <djlewis_> spin76: your get copy, paste method should be ok. Using a terminal program get into the directory the file is in. >chmod +x mkcard.sh
  • [22:28:39] <spin76> roger, will try it now.
  • [22:28:42] <djlewis_> i gotta run, bbl :)
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  • [22:29:54] <spin76> if anyone is willing to help me out, it'd be much appreciated. i just tried what djlewis suggested, and nothing happened.
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  • [22:32:53] <_av500_> spin76: u on linux?
  • [22:33:11] <spin76> yes sir. ubuntu live 10.04
  • [22:33:13] <_av500_> if yes, plug the card to your pc
  • [22:33:17] <_av500_> and run fdisk on it
  • [22:33:23] <_av500_> fdisk /dev/sdX
  • [22:33:31] <spin76> yep
  • [22:33:34] <_av500_> and print the partitiona table with "p"
  • [22:33:46] <_av500_> is the fat one marked as active?
  • [22:34:27] <_av500_> stupid rom code refuses to boot from a non-active partition
  • [22:34:47] <_av500_> i guess it fears an OS/2 boot loader chaning scheme
  • [22:34:49] <spin76> reading what it printed out now
  • [22:34:57] <_av500_> use pastebin
  • [22:35:06] <_av500_> .com
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  • [22:37:54] <spin76> http://pastebin.com/UiFMgVTm
  • [22:38:25] <spin76> it's empty cause i set it that way to see if the script worked or not
  • [22:38:38] <spin76> but obviously it didn't
  • [22:39:44] <_av500_> err
  • [22:39:56] <_av500_> yes
  • [22:40:36] <_av500_> 1st partition needs to be FAT32 and makred as active
  • [22:40:42] <_av500_> this one is no type at all
  • [22:40:45] <_av500_> and not active
  • [22:41:08] <spin76> i also just tried, in terminal, to get to the desktop where i save mkcard.sh, and using this command $ sudo mkcard.sh /dev/mmcblk0
  • [22:41:13] <spin76> but it didn't work
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  • [22:41:25] <spin76> i'll try the manual method once again
  • [22:41:30] <_av500_> err
  • [22:41:34] <_av500_> mmcblk0?
  • [22:41:43] <spin76> that's the name of the device, according to Disk Utility
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  • [22:43:00] <_av500_> is it in a card reader?
  • [22:43:29] <spin76> yep
  • [22:44:02] <spin76> once it's mounted, the mount point is /media/sd
  • [22:44:13] <spin76> should i try that script with the SD card mounted/
  • [22:46:07] <spin76> i can pastebin the entire fdisk process, and critique it
  • [22:46:18] <_av500_> unmounted is ok
  • [22:46:56] <_av500_> well, do something simple as "a 1 w" and see if it gets active
  • [22:47:35] <spin76> you mean in fdisk?
  • [22:47:40] <_av500_> yes
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  • [22:47:57] <_av500_> a RETURN
  • [22:48:03] <_av500_> then asnwer 1
  • [22:48:07] <_av500_> and the write with w
  • [22:51:13] <spin76> just went through the fdisk process to create the partition
  • [22:51:37] <spin76> do it also need to go through the mkfs.vfat process?
  • [22:52:00] <_av500_> sure
  • [22:52:15] <_av500_> what does fdisk print now?
  • [22:52:56] <spin76> http://pastebin.com/XgdjXdDa
  • [22:53:08] <spin76> that's before the mkfs.vfat process
  • [22:53:25] <_av500_> fdisk would not care
  • [22:53:39] <_av500_> look good
  • [22:54:33] <spin76> the next step, that is somewhat confusing to me is the following: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevC3Validation
  • [22:54:46] <spin76> it says to copy all those files to MMC, except if you have the C4 board (which I do(
  • [22:55:05] <spin76> and then the angstrom-distribution demo website has different files.
  • [22:55:11] <spin76> which ones do i copy over/
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  • [22:59:06] <jkridner|op> won't stay connected long, but the open hardware summit has been really cool
  • [23:01:14] <spin76> success. i was able to format the sd card. and i only load MLO and u-boot.bin
  • [23:01:49] <spin76> i can now get into the beagleboard. i need to flash MLO and u-boot.bin to the NAND so it gets out of its unhappy state.
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  • [23:03:28] <emeb> sakoman_: got the new u-boot.bin to run but it doesn't appear to find my board
  • [23:04:00] <sakoman_> emeb: is the eeprom programmed on your board?
  • [23:04:05] <emeb> yes
  • [23:04:15] <sakoman_> any interesting output fro u-boot?
  • [23:05:04] <emeb> looks pretty ordinary - does say I2C: ready, but doesn't mention probing
  • [23:05:44] <emeb> perhaps I didn't build correctly?
  • [23:05:55] <sakoman_> could be!
  • [23:06:03] <emeb> steps I took:
  • [23:06:13] <emeb> git clone git://www.sakoman.com/git/u-boot.git
  • [23:06:14] <_av500_> spin76: just nand erase the BB and always boot from sd
  • [23:06:17] <sakoman_> did you clone then checkout the omap3-exp branch?
  • [23:06:21] <emeb> CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-eabi- make omap3_beagle_config
  • [23:06:28] <emeb> CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-eabi- make
  • [23:06:40] <sakoman_> ah, you didn't check out the branch with the changes!
  • [23:06:41] <emeb> Ah - didn't checkout the -exp
  • [23:06:52] <emeb> give that a go..
  • [23:07:04] <spin76> av500: if i erase nand, will I be able to reinstall the files to it?
  • [23:07:06] <sakoman_> emeb: you want omap4-exp
  • [23:07:41] <_av500_> spin76: sure
  • [23:07:50] <emeb> git n00b: do a "git checkout omap4-exp", then what?
  • [23:08:50] <spin76> av500: I was following the instructions here: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ --> where it says If you want to flash MLO and u-boot.bin to flash
  • [23:08:57] <_av500_> ok
  • [23:08:59] <_av500_> fine
  • [23:09:22] <spin76> it says Partition 1 is not valid on device 0
  • [23:09:31] <spin76> mmc1 is available
  • [23:09:38] <spin76> not sure how to proceed
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  • [23:14:23] <emeb> sakoman_: OK built right version. Got some errors:
  • [23:14:29] <emeb> timed out in wait_for_pin: I2C_STAT=0
  • [23:14:29] <emeb> I2C read: I/O error
  • [23:14:29] <emeb> Unrecognized expansion board: 0
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  • [23:15:34] <spin76> mtdparts
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  • [23:21:14] <emeb> sakoman_: also, this version doesn't find boot.scr & tries to load uImage from NAND???
  • [23:21:51] <sakoman_> emeb: that first error message is the one I was referring to earlier
  • [23:22:32] <emeb> yep
  • [23:22:48] <sakoman_> mine loads uImage from mmc just fine
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  • [23:23:43] <sakoman_> emeb: here's what I get with no expansion board attached: http://pastebin.com/5ac8AS7P
  • [23:24:56] <emeb> Here's mine - http://pastebin.com/RxXTinyW
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  • [23:26:34] <emeb> and here's what my u-boot does: http://pastebin.com/XAt4HBPZ
  • [23:31:20] <spin76> How long is Step 3 supposed to take as per the instructions here: http://nishanthmenon.blogspot.com/2009/04/mtd-partitions-in-u-boot.html
  • [23:31:51] <NishanthMenon> spin76, that depends on how long the flash is
  • [23:31:57] <NishanthMenon> s/long/large
  • [23:32:19] <NishanthMenon> as long as the numbers are incrementing you are doing good ;)
  • [23:32:26] <sakoman_> emeb: thanks! I'll have to read through koen's patch and see if I can figure out how I screwed it up :-)
  • [23:32:31] <NishanthMenon> gives you an idea about the approx rate as well..
  • [23:32:59] <ds2> stop screwing with u-boot!@#$!@#$!@#$@#
  • [23:33:13] <spin76> I entered that command in console. THe next line was "NAND write: device 0 offset 0x280000, size 0x400000
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  • [23:33:24] <spin76> and it's been stuck there since
  • [23:33:30] <spin76> been a few minutes now
  • [23:33:32] <NishanthMenon> that is not looking good
  • [23:33:39] <NishanthMenon> something could be broken in u-boot
  • [23:33:41] <NishanthMenon> :(
  • [23:33:57] * NishanthMenon knows that it worked once upon a time...
  • [23:33:57] <spin76> there was something wrong with the partitions on the bb
  • [23:34:04] <spin76> so i was trying to fix it
  • [23:34:09] <NishanthMenon> ouch
  • [23:34:35] <emeb> sakoman_: np - let me know if I can help again.
  • [23:34:39] <spin76> the nand is kind of effed
  • [23:35:05] <ds2> too many people are screwing with uboot
  • [23:35:14] <NishanthMenon> ds2, yeah...
  • [23:35:15] <NishanthMenon> :(
  • [23:35:22] <ds2> it is a bootloader not a bare metal OS that everyone is trying to turn it into
  • [23:35:32] * NishanthMenon rofl
  • [23:35:50] <emeb> NishanthMenon: we're testing a patch - that's not mainline
  • [23:35:53] <NishanthMenon> spin76, dont have my bb rt now with me.. wonder if they'd like to give the commands a try
  • [23:36:04] <spin76> on a different note, NishanthMenon, I have to say I appreciate your blog.
  • [23:36:16] <NishanthMenon> spin76, glad to share whatever i learn..
  • [23:36:24] * NishanthMenon learns from net as well ;)
  • [23:36:39] <spin76> I will try commands, but I the board is hung. Will it be an issue if I kill the power on it/
  • [23:36:52] <emeb> ds2: pretty soon you'll be able to play doom on u-boot...
  • [23:36:57] <spin76> heh
  • [23:36:58] <NishanthMenon> spin76, you cant crap it further than you have now
  • [23:37:02] <spin76> true story
  • [23:37:17] <ds2> emeb: probally all you need is to add bin flat support
  • [23:37:54] <emeb> ds2: ELF loader
  • [23:38:03] <ds2> emeb: no ELF for MMU less operation
  • [23:38:13] <spin76> Power cycled the BB, it loaded u-boot.bin from the mmc ...
  • [23:38:22] <spin76> now to try to fix the nand
  • [23:39:02] <spin76> cue pointers -- they are appreciated.
  • [23:40:24] <sakoman_> emeb: I know what the issue is, I'll revise the patch
  • [23:40:45] <emeb> great - tell me when to pull
  • [23:43:52] <spin76> NishanthMenon
  • [23:45:01] <spin76> NishanthMenon: I tried searching through your blog to see i f you've discussed fixing nand partitions. Have you written about that?
  • [23:45:02] <sakoman_> emeb: the fix is in. warning: I rebased omap4-exp
  • [23:46:46] <spin76> http://pastebin.com/yGHXL4qz
  • [23:46:47] <emeb> sakoman_: what does that imply for me? (not too git-savvy)
  • [23:46:49] <NishanthMenon> brb
  • [23:46:54] <NishanthMenon> in meeting
  • [23:47:10] <sakoman_> emeb: you might not be able to just do a git pull
  • [23:47:22] <sakoman_> give it a try and see if you get an error
  • [23:47:25] <ds2> reclone to be safe
  • [23:47:37] <ds2> if your upstream rebases, you can get very confused.
  • [23:47:52] <sakoman_> or git branch -D omap4-exp and re-check it out
  • [23:48:06] <sakoman_> that might be the fastest
  • [23:48:31] <sakoman_> just checkout master, blow away the omap4-exp branch and then check it out again
  • [23:48:46] <ds2> it'd depend on if your upstream is out to get you ;)
  • [23:49:25] <emeb> yep - get conflicts and can't -D on the current branch
  • [23:49:30] <sakoman_> users of the branch I use to prepare upstream patches are in for very frequent rebases!
  • [23:49:53] <sakoman_> emeb: git checkout master and then delete it
  • [23:50:28] <emeb> can't checkout master - need to resolve 1st
  • [23:50:48] <sakoman_> git reset --hard origin/omap4-exp
  • [23:50:58] <sakoman_> then go to master
  • [23:51:23] <sakoman_> or do as ds2 suggest and reclone :-)
  • [23:51:28] <ds2> isn't 'git reset --hard HEAD' sufficient?
  • [23:51:37] <sakoman_> that should work too
  • [23:51:44] <emeb> recloning
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  • [23:53:12] <sakoman_> emeb: need to leave for an hour or two
  • [23:53:24] <sakoman_> but I'll check back to see how things went for you!
  • [23:53:41] <sakoman_> thanks for trying the patches!
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  • [23:55:31] <emeb> sakoman_: found the board, but didn't boot my kernel & cmdline - http://pastebin.com/fFNf05P2
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