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[00:03:52] <djlewis> mmMmmm beer.
[00:04:07] <DanaG> Anyway, is it possible to get a beagle to give 1920x1080 at 60 Hz?
[00:04:13] <DanaG> Even if it's scan doubling.
[00:06:02] <emeb> DanaG: I think that's not possible
[00:06:29] <DanaG> Argh, stupid overscan.
[00:06:46] <emeb> I recall jkridner mentioning the max size/rate is limited by the BB's internal bus bandwidths
[00:07:00] <emeb> which top out somewhat lower than that...
[00:07:19] <emeb> IIRC if you go > 1280x1024 then the frame rate has to drop.
[00:07:47] <djlewis> DanaG: here is a list of some modes: http://www.sakoman.com/OMAP3/changing-the-display-resolution.html
[00:08:15] <emeb> I know I can't hit 1680x1050 @ 60Hz with mine.
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[00:08:39] <djlewis> I have two models that go that hi, I should test :)
[00:08:54] <DanaG> It's a bummer there's not a frame-doubler mode.
[00:08:59] <djlewis> A mag and HP 22" monitors
[00:09:01] <DanaG> So it'd push the same frame out twice.
[00:09:59] <emeb> DanaG: if you think about it, that would require a full frame store in the video output circuits
[00:10:13] <emeb> probably not that much memory on the whole chip...
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[00:11:57] <djlewis> sakoman: ping
[00:12:18] <emeb> djlewis: interesting that sakoman's list has 1680x1050 @ 60Hz - I need to try that again...
[00:12:34] <emeb> (that's native on my mon)
[00:12:36] <djlewis> emeb: yep, i have two chances
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[00:12:59] <djlewis> seems it would place a strain on the BB video throughput
[00:13:29] <djlewis> I run 1280x1050@60 now on a 17" Samsung
[00:13:44] <emeb> djlewis: yep - that's what mine is set for too.
[00:13:49] <emeb> Seems to work OK...
[00:13:56] <djlewis> that is a sweet resolutuon though
[00:14:13] <emeb> yeah - doesn't look bad, even though it's not native on my monitor
[00:14:42] * djlewis fails to get why screen rez usually drops with larget than 17" LCD
[00:14:58] <mmarker> hmm, I can't get my xM to do 1280x1050@60. What's your kernel cmdline dj?
[00:15:02] <DanaG> djlewis: because HDTV has ruined the LCD market.
[00:15:15] <djlewis> ei; a 19" should be 1920x1050
[00:15:19] <DanaG> You'll take your millimeter-wide pixels and like them!
[00:15:31] <DanaG> My laptop is 1920x1200 at 15.4".
[00:15:36] <djlewis> hehee
[00:15:38] <DanaG> Some company touted a 720p 50-inch.
[00:15:44] <DanaG> My laptop is 500% as sharp (DPI)!
[00:15:48] <djlewis> what a waste
[00:15:55] <DanaG> http://10rem.net/blog/2010/04/22/rant-hdtv-has-ruined-the-lcd-display-market-or-i-want-my-pixels-and-dpi-now
[00:16:13] <DanaG> I mean, I don't expect a 20-inch 2560x1600... I just want a second 15.4" 1920x1200!
[00:16:37] <DanaG> Hmm, so it seems I
[00:16:43] * mmarker kicks his Beagle in the face
[00:16:52] <mmarker> 640x480 is not good. Stpuidboard.
[00:17:18] <djlewis> well, dbl the hdmi resolution or triple it and it can still do 720p
[00:18:15] <djlewis> I looked around for a LCD tv / computer screen model and I was not to excited in what I found
[00:18:37] <djlewis> mmarker: you using the s-video jack?
[00:18:48] <mmarker> Nope. the DVI-D out
[00:19:08] <mmarker> I don't have a boot.scr yet, so it's defaulting to a crap res.
[00:19:12] <djlewis> no, 640x480 is not so good then
[00:20:13] <mmarker> Hence why I'm looking for a known good cmdline
[00:20:29] <emeb> mmarker: this is your BB's way of telling you to get off your a** and make a boot.scr ;)
[00:21:01] <mmarker> Exactly! Just need to know what's a working value to put in it...since I only have one DVI-D port on the monitor, and swapping between the two is a PITA
[00:21:04] <DanaG> hmm, can it do 50hz? at 1920?
[00:21:08] <djlewis> if it were only a simple txt file
[00:21:31] <djlewis> its gotta have some dadgum binary header on it.
[00:21:42] <mmarker> I know
[00:21:55] <mmarker> I have the u-boot tools, I know how to get it all shaped up
[00:22:09] <djlewis> whats with that? why didnt our fore fathers of beagleworld plan for that?
[00:22:20] <mmarker> just what goes into bootargs...specifically omapfbwhatever.something=dvi:xxx-xxx??@someHZ
[00:22:44] <DanaG> Argh, damnit, Dell!
[00:22:48] <djlewis> mmarker: see page I linked above
[00:23:09] <DanaG> If I give a 1920x1080 to a 1920x1080 display, I expect to get 1920x1080, not blurry shit.
[00:23:20] <DanaG> Excuse the swearing, but yeah, Dell fail.
[00:24:18] <mmarker> which page, only see the DanG one
[00:24:47] * djlewis is thinking more seriously on getting a Trainer bd for spi and I2C testing
[00:24:49] <mmarker> I may have come in juust after you posted it. Or I'm stupid and missing something.
[00:24:54] <djlewis> (7:07:47 PM) djlewis: DanaG: here is a list of some modes: http://www.sakoman.com/OMAP3/changing-the-display-resolution.html
[00:25:06] <mmarker> Ok, that'll be a win
[00:25:43] <mmarker> Ahh, 1440x900
[00:25:47] <mmarker> I was tring something daft.
[00:25:50] <DanaG> Heck, the stupid thing looks better at 720 than it does at 1080!
[00:26:22] <emeb> mmarker: here's the boot.scr from my C4 - http://pastebin.com/Qts0Z9B1
[00:26:53] <mmarker> I have one from a ubuntu-xM install somewhere
[00:27:06] <mmarker> that I can mess up in unsavroy ways.
[00:27:27] <DanaG> I mean, why would you make a COMPUTER MONITOR overscan?
[00:27:32] <emeb> yep - this one is pretty minimal tho. Just sets the res & boots
[00:27:35] * DanaG goes and steals all of Dell's taskbars.
[00:27:47] <DanaG> It wasn't me... it was your monitors!
[00:27:52] <mmarker> Oh, I know
[00:28:02] <mmarker> In the days before EDID
[00:28:19] <mmarker> you would sneak into your neighbors dorm room, and mess up their XFree86 config file
[00:28:30] <mmarker> to free the magic smoke.
[00:28:38] <djlewis> still do with beagle, well the boot anywayt
[00:28:57] <djlewis> no fully functional yet for BB
[00:29:08] <djlewis> did I leave out EDID?
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[00:33:30] <mmarker> Ok, let's see if this boots now
[00:33:39] * emeb holds bref
[00:33:51] <djlewis> legs x'd
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[00:35:44] <DanaG> Argh, stupid Dell.
[00:35:59] <DanaG> So, can the xM, or the omap4, do 60Hz at 1080?
[00:39:41] * emeb is turning blue...
[00:40:08] <djlewis> emeb: this looks fun: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9544
[00:40:12] <DanaG> ah, NDA stuff?
[00:40:50] <DanaG> http://armdevices.net/2010/02/03/slashgear-com-hands-on-with-texas-instruments-omap4-development-hardware/
[00:40:55] <DanaG> ah, 1080p, hdmi.
[00:41:17] <emeb> djlewis: I've heard of that.
[00:41:55] <djlewis> emeb: you may have directed me to it in teh past :)
[00:42:31] <djlewis> SO DanaG YOU REACHED YOUR GOAL?
[00:42:35] <djlewis> oops
[00:43:42] <djlewis> time to feed three pups and myself..
[00:43:53] <djlewis> and get another beer :)
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[00:45:33] <mmarker> It displayed
[00:45:41] <mmarker> but it may have fell over, never got a terminal
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[00:45:52] <mmarker> will need to pull up the lappy and slap in the serial console
[00:45:53] <emeb> whooooosh....
[00:46:07] <emeb> what res?
[00:46:19] <mmarker> 1440x900
[00:46:30] <emeb> odd one...
[00:46:40] <mmarker> 16:10
[00:46:46] <mmarker> which is my crap Dell monitor
[00:46:51] <emeb> ah
[00:47:06] <emeb> Dell's taking a lot of hits here today...
[00:48:59] <djlewis> I have several 1440x900's I dont care for that rez at all.
[00:49:42] <djlewis> I have a SOny laptop faster and with a larger screen than this one but I prefer 1280x1050 to 1440x900
[00:49:48] <mmarker> Well, I can pull up my mac with parallels and try to get things working...but that's for another time.
[00:50:13] <emeb> djlewis: wonder why bus pirate uses FTD2232 & PIC24 - there are PIC24 parts with USB that are about the same price...
[00:50:42] <emeb> may be something to do with the bootloader...
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[01:10:08] <djlewis> or its design age
[01:10:19] <emeb> mebbe
[01:10:47] <djlewis> its drawback is it is slow
[01:11:33] <emeb> eh - since the BP emulates a serial terminal it may not be that big of a deal...
[01:12:07] <emeb> of course you can't use it to intercept a full BW SPI running at 20MHz clock rate...
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[01:13:12] <djlewis> emeb: this DSO syncs on serial data real purty. Never got so good with my old analogs
[01:13:47] <emeb> djlewis: nice. another pal of mine got one a few weeks back too and he's really happy with it so far.
[01:13:54] <emeb> Likes the remote mode...
[01:14:11] <emeb> notes that the fan is kinda loud tho.
[01:15:10] <djlewis> yes, the fan wasnt so noticable in the open living room but against a wall...
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[01:26:32] <djlewis> emeb: is the friend thinking on the mod?
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[01:28:51] <emeb> djlewis: yes - he's got all the links/instructions and has a copy of the previous firmware file
[01:29:06] <emeb> but hasn't done it yet - uneasy about voiding the warranty
[01:29:25] <djlewis> same :)
[01:29:35] <emeb> understood.
[01:30:56] <djlewis> I haven't hung a probe on any more than 20Mhz thus far anyway.
[01:32:24] <emeb> there's that. Generally I don't work with stuff that's faster than about 125MHz, so the 150MHz instek looks good
[01:32:56] <djlewis> yes, a fine looking instrument
[01:33:00] <emeb> of course it's going to seriously round off the edges, but I'd like to be able to see stuff that I can't see with my 60MHz Tek
[01:33:54] <djlewis> ya think? looks like some margin there.
[01:34:56] <emeb> yeah, but the higher harmonics for a 125MHz sq wave are at 375 & 625
[01:36:20] <djlewis> ah, you are looking above and beyond
[01:37:23] <djlewis> or you saying the harmonics are gonna sit on the main freq and wipe the displays arse?
[01:39:24] <djlewis> so now I'm being teased to give up paper mortgage statements
[01:39:46] <djlewis> up to 10 iphones will be given away per month to those that do.
[01:40:07] <djlewis> I suppose I might sell the iphone if iI won one.
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[03:32:08] <JDuke128> hi , i tried to install SGX on my machine but i got errors when i boot my igepv2
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[05:39:33] <nullobject> hey there, does anyone know what the MLO file is?
[05:47:44] <DanaG> MLO is a slightly differently-packaged x-loader, isn't it?
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[05:53:16] <nullobject> DanaG: not sure, but sounds likely.
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[06:19:40] <hitlin37> which event is used to see l2 cache miss in oprofile
[06:19:44] <hitlin37> on BB
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[06:26:29] <cwillu_at_work> mlo is an unsigned x-loader
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[07:10:30] <hitlin37> any last action hero alive?
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[09:11:02] <nullobject> is anyone running debian or ubuntu on their beagle?
[09:12:58] <dm8tbr> I'm sure someone is.
[09:13:45] <nullobject> i just tried to install debain on my xM and i've got a few questions.
[09:17:30] <mru> my question is why?
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[09:28:13] <nullobject> why what?
[09:28:25] <mru> why run debian
[09:28:42] <nullobject> because angstrom is a little cut down for my taste.
[09:28:49] <nullobject> what are you running?
[09:29:03] <_av500_> buildroot
[09:29:08] <mru> and debian cuts performance to a bare minimum
[09:29:24] * mru wonders why corporate types love horrors like buildroot and scarebox
[09:29:57] <nullobject> mru: would you suggest sticking with angstrom?
[09:30:05] <_av500_> because it works so well with 3vil vendor kernals :-P
[09:31:01] <mru> I suggest using something that's optimised for the cpu you have
[09:32:14] <nullobject> mru: ok, my only real requirement is decent package management.
[09:32:57] * _av500_ uses cp
[09:33:42] <_av500_> and rm
[09:35:27] <_av500_> i think it is called enterprise damage packagement
[09:37:49] <nullobject> is ubuntu any better optimised, or is it in the same boat as debian?
[09:38:32] <mru> the problem with debian is that they insist on all packages working on armv4
[09:38:58] <mru> which means all the nice stuff that's been added later is disabled
[09:39:02] <mru> like floating-point
[09:39:24] <nullobject> mru: right, thanks for explaining that.
[09:40:10] <mru> they also insist on building the packages on some linksys router with 32MB of ram or similar
[09:41:03] <nullobject> that sux
[09:41:14] <mru> a lot about debian does
[09:42:00] <nullobject> so is there any distro that you'd recommend which provides binaries rather than having to compile everything myself?
[09:42:24] <mru> angstrom perhaps
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[09:43:58] <nullobject> ok, i might give angstrom another shot
[09:44:16] <nullobject> i just found that some of their packages were very dated (specifically ruby).
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[09:44:59] <mru> it can't possibly be worse than debian
[09:45:19] <nullobject> hehe, ok.
[09:46:08] <nullobject> something else to throw out there, is it common practice to put x-load and u-boot in NAND?
[09:46:29] <mru> some do, but I prefer keeping them on an sd card
[09:46:55] <nullobject> so MLO is x-loader right?
[09:46:57] <mru> yes
[09:47:00] <nullobject> kk
[09:49:17] <nullobject> i was reading on the wiki that lucid is armv7 optimised. does that mean armv7 binary packages too? or just the kernel?
[09:52:10] <_av500_> there should be binary packages too
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[11:21:05] <hitlin37> how do i find l2 cache misses for my app
[11:21:23] <mru> try oprofile
[11:22:22] <hitlin37> which event i have to giv in oprofile
[11:22:49] <mru> opcontrol -l lists the available ones
[11:23:19] <hitlin37> thanks
[11:23:26] <hitlin37> :)
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[11:44:55] <Sog> Does the OMAP3 name will update to DV3XXX ?
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[12:34:12] <_av500_> no
[12:34:27] <woglinde> jo av500
[12:34:29] <_av500_> there is omap36xx, dm37xx and am 37xx
[12:34:42] <_av500_> there is omap36xx, dm37xx and am37xx
[12:34:58] <_av500_> each ti business unit can have its own name
[12:35:06] <woglinde> hm
[12:35:07] <woglinde> Porting VLC to TI DaVinci
[12:35:21] <_av500_> err, its done
[12:35:30] <_av500_> jpsaman did it
[12:35:49] <woglinde> hm talk at elce
[12:36:02] <woglinde> from him
[12:36:03] <woglinde> *g*
[12:40:16] <woglinde> *sigh* but I will not made it to elce
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[12:59:28] <zakri> Hi all
[12:59:45] <zakri> if anyone is able to help with driver for ENC28j60
[12:59:46] <zakri> ??
[13:00:46] <woglinde> what has it todo with beagleboad?
[13:01:34] <zakri> I have the beagle and the zippy board
[13:01:38] <zakri> with enc28j60
[13:02:10] <zakri> I can't compile kernel for linux with enc28j60
[13:03:59] <zakri> I choose ENC28J60 form network driver, when kernel is started on beagle, driver is not run
[13:05:10] <adj> you propably should also tell the kernel that you have such a device on some SPI port
[13:05:33] <zakri> yes I choose the SPI
[13:05:38] <adj> ah
[13:06:08] <adj> does it also ask the SPI port number?
[13:06:12] <zakri> but, i should tell the kerenl that on SPI 4 I have enc28j60??
[13:06:18] <adj> and chip select number
[13:06:44] <zakri> ok, where I can set this
[13:07:22] <adj> board file would be my guess
[13:08:10] <adj> and naturally you will have to set up muxing for SPI pins, or at least make sure they are correct
[13:10:26] <zakri> I can setup this in kernel configuration?
[13:12:56] <adj> with menuconfig or similar? no.
[13:13:41] <adj> they should propably be set in arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3beagle.c
[13:14:26] <adj> mux config needs to be done somewhere else
[13:16:24] <zakri> ok thnaks for help
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[15:21:12] <peterretief> um
[15:22:04] <peterretief> how does this parallel dev thing work?
[15:22:28] <peterretief> cant i just make some pthon or ruby scripts
[15:23:00] <kblin> uh, not sure what you're asking
[15:24:16] <kblin> "parallel dev thing" sounds like I implement features A, B and C and you implement features A, B, and C
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[15:24:54] <kblin> if both of us were working on rocket control computer software, that would make perfect sense
[15:25:06] <peterretief> kblin: let me try explain
[15:25:09] <peterretief> ;)
[15:25:28] <peterretief> the rocket thing sounds interesting though
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[15:26:22] <peterretief> i tried to run the oebb.sh
[15:26:36] <peterretief> got a syntax error
[15:27:40] <peterretief> i want to create my own ??ngstr??m image
[15:28:39] <peterretief> and i have stumbled on the following link http://blog.leggewie.org/?p=39
[15:29:31] <peterretief> is that a useful link?
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[15:32:10] <ynezz> you can use online builder http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/
[15:32:58] <ynezz> and this link is what are you probably looking for http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/simplified-development-setup
[15:33:00] <peterretief> ynezz: can i add my own programs to teh install using that?
[15:33:18] <peterretief> that looks interesting
[15:33:31] <ynezz> you can unpack/mount loop final image and put whatever you want into it
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[15:34:05] <peterretief> ah so i can mount an image locally - do some dev then send it on its way?
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[15:34:23] <peterretief> sorry for all the dumb questions
[15:34:26] <ynezz> what do you mean?
[15:35:01] <peterretief> let me check out the urls
[15:35:21] <peterretief> and not burden you with silly questions
[15:35:35] <ynezz> you can get the SDK from online builder, build your own programs with it and put it into the final image
[15:35:44] <peterretief> ah yes
[15:35:51] <peterretief> tahts what i want to do
[15:36:12] <mrcan> i want control an i2c device so i wrote a code via looking sample kernel drivers (module). but i dont know how to build it for my board... i think i must compile it with arm gcc. then i want write a qt application for control this device but it will say where is your specified function (my kernel module's function but its inside of board. im crosscompiling). do you have any suggestions?
[15:38:07] <peterretief> mrcan: looks like you looking for the same thing
[15:39:33] <peterretief> waiting for the sdk to download
[15:39:37] <peterretief> thanks
[15:39:52] <mrcan> ?
[15:40:31] <peterretief> whats an i2c device?
[15:40:47] <mrcan> a chip communication with i2c
[15:40:50] <mrcan> protocol
[15:40:56] <mrcan> like rs232, usb
[15:41:25] <ynezz> mrcan: you don't need to write driver for it, you can use i2c from userspace http://www.robot-electronics.co.uk/files/tstsp.c
[15:41:40] <peterretief> i am using an rs232 protocl
[15:41:44] <ynezz> mrcan: so you can easily do it within Qt application also
[15:42:00] <ynezz> mrcan: if the Qt aaplication runs on the beaglebaord
[15:42:40] <ynezz> mrcan: if not, you will need to create some tcp/ip daemon running on beagle and controlling the i2c device
[15:43:42] <ynezz> gotta go
[15:44:18] <mrcan> yes runs on board. developing application on x86 pc, how can i compile it? it will say i2c_smbus_read_byte_data() function didnt found
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[15:45:23] <Roonux> hi
[15:46:00] <mrcan> ynezz: sorry for make busy. could you give a small respond =)
[15:51:19] <Roonux> Please, do you know which is this product : http://media.digikey.com/photos/Rabbit%20Semi%20Photos/20-101-0461.JPG ? thanks
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[15:52:28] <Roonux> or where I can found something like this for a beagleboard
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[15:59:51] <djlewis> Roonux: looks like the Rabbit 2000 proto board
[16:00:15] <djlewis> you want to interface rabbit to BB?
[16:00:28] <djlewis> or you looking for BB dev kit?
[16:01:15] <djlewis> Roonux: if the latter, look at tincantools trainer board.
[16:01:21] <Roonux> I'm sorry if it's not clear, yep I'm looking for a BB dev kit or expansion board
[16:02:28] <djlewis> Roonux: http://www.tincantools.com/home.php?cat=255
[16:03:09] <djlewis> good as it gets unless you build your own
[16:03:56] <Roonux> thanks ;)
[16:04:01] <djlewis> np
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[16:07:07] <adj> mrcan: for i2c_smbus_read_byte_data() and other i2c functions you'll need to include linux/i2c.h
[16:07:28] <adj> and of course to be able to do that you'll need proper kernel headers
[16:11:49] <emeb> gm djlewis
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[16:21:59] <mrcan> thanks adj and ynezz i will try it. nice days
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[16:23:39] <djlewis> emeb: gm to you too :)
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[16:26:33] <emeb> nice saturday morning. the smell of flux fumes in the air...
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[16:28:32] <djlewis> hehee, I was up late soldering a kit together. Slept in this morning
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[16:29:24] <djlewis> got a couple pieces of test gear in kit form and saved dollars.
[16:29:58] <peterretief> do you build your own beagle?
[16:30:16] <peterretief> seems quite hitec to me
[16:30:43] <djlewis> not me
[16:33:56] <djlewis> I mean, i am noit building a beagleboard
[16:34:06] <peterretief> i see
[16:34:23] <peterretief> what you mean
[16:35:43] <djlewis> 11:29:28 AM) djlewis: got a couple pieces of test gear in kit form and saved dollars.
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[16:36:25] * emeb debugs a board - finds a bad dsPIC
[16:39:44] * djlewis makes powre supply leads from old speaker wire.
[16:40:19] * emeb has heard of making speaker wire from AC line cord
[16:40:48] <mru> emeb: works just fine
[16:40:58] <djlewis> hmm, dont need that heavy a wire :)
[16:41:14] <djlewis> mru: gm
[16:41:27] <mru> morning djlewis and others
[16:41:44] <emeb> mru: no - you have to buy $100/ft oxygen free 00-gauge Monster cable for best sound :P
[16:42:47] <djlewis> hmm, I have some of that.
[16:43:27] * emeb doesn't buy audiophile woo-woo
[16:44:59] <djlewis> yeah, it was a passing phase
[16:46:23] <mru> was that a pun?
[16:46:41] <emeb> :)
[16:46:58] <emeb> "one day we'll remember this, laugh nervously and change the subject"
[16:54:59] <ds2> hmmmmm
[16:55:13] <emeb> gm ds2
[16:55:13] <djlewis> hehee
[16:55:16] <ds2> hey emeb
[16:55:27] <djlewis> ds2: gm
[16:55:28] <emeb> still in AZ?
[16:55:32] <ds2> *nod*
[16:55:38] <ds2> hey djlewis
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[16:56:32] <djlewis> what was that last wed? a Epson something stylus 10000
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[16:57:08] <djlewis> nice big oh, it had pro in the name
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[17:00:14] <djlewis> mmMmm, new built leads dont act ike a 100ohm resistor :)
[17:00:31] <emeb> ds2: That spot of US93 I mentioned yesterday: http://bit.ly/aaZ8hJ
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[17:17:59] <djlewis> ESR meter completed and calibrated :)
[17:18:36] <djlewis> ooh, i gotta go get a handful of caps to test ...
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[17:54:33] <djlewis> ESR meter works well
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[18:08:21] <emeb> kewl
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[18:14:08] <djlewis> building Ring tester now :)
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[18:20:59] <djlewis> it's kinda fun being lazy and assembling a kit again ;)
[18:26:08] <djlewis> well, i suppose being lazy would have been paying the extra $35 for assembled.
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[18:55:29] <_av500_> yum, roasting marshmellows on the fire
[18:56:06] <emeb> nice
[18:56:20] <emeb> chocolate & graham crackers handy?
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[18:56:28] <_av500_> nope
[18:56:42] <emeb> bummer. s'mores are tasty
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[18:57:27] <_av500_> my mom went from sceptic to "tasty" quite fast :=
[18:57:30] <_av500_> :)
[18:58:09] <emeb> it probably seems like an odd thing to do if you've never had it before.
[18:58:14] <_av500_> yeah
[18:58:26] <emeb> not a common thing in .de I suppose
[18:58:50] <_av500_> no
[18:59:24] <_av500_> but we had "stockbrot" before
[18:59:54] * emeb google stockbrot
[19:00:24] <emeb> ah - bread toasted over a fire.
[19:00:37] <emeb> (dough)
[19:01:34] <_av500_> yeah, burnt outside, and still uncooked on the inside, but the kids love to do it :)
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[19:01:50] <emeb> looks like the sort of thing that would be easy to do with pre-made roll dough
[19:02:19] <mru> _av500_: hey, we used to do that in sweden when I was a kid
[19:02:46] <_av500_> emeb: i used ready made pizza dough
[19:03:03] <emeb> *nod*
[19:03:20] * mru is now known as _troll_
[19:04:06] <emeb> we used to toast marshmallows over the burner of an electric stove.
[19:04:16] <emeb> when a campfire wasn't handy
[19:04:26] <emeb> not quite the same...
[19:04:43] <emeb> needs some wood smoke.
[19:04:45] <_av500_> true
[19:06:02] <djlewis> needs to catch on fire
[19:06:19] <emeb> toast marshmallows over a hot soldering iron?
[19:06:27] <djlewis> i could today
[19:06:39] <emeb> mmm... rosin and lead fumes!
[19:07:19] <djlewis> mmMMmm mmMMmm good :)
[19:08:29] <_av500_> djlewis: dont bite down to hard on the solderin iron
[19:08:43] <djlewis> hrhrr
[19:08:57] <emeb> _av500_: were you camping or just outside your home?
[19:09:02] <_av500_> at home
[19:09:13] <_av500_> a weber makes a good firepit too
[19:09:26] <emeb> indeed.
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[19:10:52] <emeb> my nephews like to toast marshmallows in a chiminea at their grandparent's house
[19:11:51] <djlewis> emeb: is that one of those indian bread baking ovens outdoor?
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[19:12:32] <emeb> djlewis: yeah - a mexican outdoor clay oven: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiminea
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[19:13:12] <emeb> very common backyard accessory here in the US SW
[19:13:36] * djlewis thought those were ash trays or planters :(
[19:13:52] <_av500_> djlewis: they started to pop us here too...
[19:13:52] <djlewis> i'm thinking of the big ones like a igloo almost
[19:13:57] <emeb> no telling what folks use them for
[19:14:02] <_av500_> pop up
[19:16:50] * djlewis was thinking of these http://hubpages.com/hub/Baking-Bread-Pueblo-Style-in-New-Mexico
[19:17:33] <emeb> ah yes - the Zuni ovens.
[19:17:47] * emeb wants to try some Zuni bread some day
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[19:21:26] <djlewis> sleeping in made my head hurt and the coffee has not remedied it :(
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[19:22:10] * emeb can't sleep in - alarm cat won't let him
[19:22:20] * _av500_ has alarm kids
[19:22:23] <_troll_> djlewis: if the headache has set in, it's too late
[19:22:32] <_troll_> coffee won't make it go away quickly
[19:22:42] * crazy_pete hates headaches
[19:22:48] <emeb> _av500_: kids aren't in their teens yet I take it...
[19:22:55] <_av500_> no
[19:22:59] <_av500_> 0,3,6
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[19:23:10] <_troll_> no, they get up at 6am
[19:23:12] <_av500_> you see a pattern?
[19:23:14] <emeb> that's a handful
[19:23:14] <_troll_> _every_ morning
[19:23:32] <_av500_> _troll_: you cant extrapolate from 1 morning
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[19:24:43] <emeb> mru has visited av500 IRL?
[19:24:56] <_av500_> yes
[19:25:09] <_av500_> i do exist
[19:25:27] <emeb> not just a wandering data packet in the intertubes...
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[19:39:44] <djlewis> mru: yes if is always better to have my coffee on schedule ...
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[19:42:55] <_av500_> djlewis: get an iv drip :)
[19:44:28] <djlewis> _av500_: mmMMmm good...
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[21:06:19] <djlewis> ring tester built and tested.
[21:06:46] <mru> square tester next?
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[22:12:56] <felipec> anyone knows how to set the date with busybox?
[22:18:05] <djlewis> time
[22:21:04] <ynezz> I use date
[22:21:45] <felipec> found it: date -s YYMMDDhhmm
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[22:33:40] <Seraptin> anyone willing to help me setup proftp ?
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[23:14:04] <Saeed_> hello
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[23:15:42] <AEl-Saeed> how can i ask question here if nobody answers ?
[23:16:05] <mru> talk with yourself, you're here under two nicks already
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[23:16:34] <AEl-Saeed> Live people.. thanks to GOD
[23:16:46] <AEl-Saeed> i think this makes only 1 me
[23:16:53] <AEl-Saeed> i have an issue with my BB
[23:17:19] <mikey_w> Hello.
[23:17:56] <AEl-Saeed> i made the instruction for SD setup but the boot freezes for no reason
[23:18:11] <AEl-Saeed> how can i validate if the SD card is already configures correctly or not ?
[23:20:00] <AEl-Saeed> ??
[23:20:23] <mikey_w> I have a beagleboard and an openpandor and a OMAP3 android tablet on order, a A81E. The tablet manufacture is ignoring his obligation under the GPL license. Is there a resource that shows how to add a touchscreen to a linux system for a OMAP3 device?
[23:22:14] <AEl-Saeed> hi mikey_w. please tell me, do you usually ask questions here and somebody answers you or it is your first visit here ?
[23:22:34] <mru> dude, it's saturday night
[23:22:41] <mikey_w> Simple, ask and wait.
[23:22:45] <mru> people might be out enjoying themselves
[23:23:09] <AEl-Saeed> satuday night. good tip
[23:23:31] <djlewis> AEl-Saeed: there is always a reason a BB wont boot.
[23:23:45] <mru> usually pebkac
[23:23:50] <djlewis> just as there are alwyas reasons they do
[23:23:59] <djlewis> always
[23:24:06] <mikey_w> Do you have a terminal attached?
[23:24:11] <AEl-Saeed> yeah
[23:24:33] <mikey_w> What is it telling you?
[23:24:45] <AEl-Saeed> just give me 1 sec.
[23:24:58] <djlewis> mikey_w: a lot of people have interfaced as you are asking. try google
[23:25:28] <mikey_w> I have but nothing very useful.
[23:25:47] <djlewis> i dont think you will find a documented schematic and such
[23:26:02] <mikey_w> lol
[23:26:19] <AEl-Saeed> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.2 (Feb 19 2009 - 12:01:24) Reading boot sector Loading u-boot.bin from mmc U-Boot 2010.03 (Aug 06 2010 - 11:28:56) OMAP3530-GP ES3.1, CPU-OPP2, L3-165MHz, Max clock-720Mhz OMAP3 Beagle board + LPDDR/NAND I2C: ready
[23:26:25] <AEl-Saeed> and then complete freeze
[23:26:26] <djlewis> mikey_w: but add beagleboard to the search
[23:26:42] <djlewis> oh, that common problem
[23:27:02] <AEl-Saeed> djlewis: tell me the way out pleaseee
[23:30:16] <mru> x-loader too old for u-boot
[23:30:53] <AEl-Saeed> mru: is this related to the BB version ?
[23:30:57] <mru> no
[23:31:24] <AEl-Saeed> so do u have any advices what should i do to fix this ?
[23:31:53] <djlewis> AEl-Saeed: if you googled you would find: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/c00e3eac01ee09d1?fwc=1
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[23:33:16] <djlewis> i'm feeling bitchy, perhaps i'll not read anymore
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[23:39:44] <AEl-Saeed> just another small question, do i have to download all the files located here : http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
[23:39:46] <AEl-Saeed> ?
[23:40:24] <emeb> lol - http://www.asklyrics.com/display/laika/badtimes-lyrics.htm
[23:41:32] <djlewis> AEl-Saeed: you need to read the beagleboard beginners wiki
[23:41:49] <djlewis> your questions have already been addressed
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[23:43:03] <AEl-Saeed> djlewis: i'm already opening it .. but i just wanted to make sure that i applied it correctly ? there must be something wrong here
[23:43:27] <AEl-Saeed> i am just very newbie in the embedded linux
[23:45:48] <djlewis> emeb: http://www.djlewis.us/files/electronics/blue/
[23:46:31] <djlewis> AEl-Saeed: the beginners wiki talks you through it all.
[23:47:07] <emeb> djlewis: nice!
[23:47:28] <djlewis> new workbench is offically broken in :)
[23:47:45] <emeb> any solder burns on the laminate top yet? :)
[23:48:07] <djlewis> naw but I want a protective cover for it
[23:48:19] <djlewis> looking into anti-static mats
[23:48:27] <emeb> I got an antistatic mat for mine - good investment.
[23:48:32] <djlewis> I dont know what lifetime to expect of them
[23:48:49] <emeb> I've had it for > 5 years now. Still holding up nicely.
[23:48:56] <djlewis> cool
[23:49:01] <emeb> No idea how well it still works for anti-static tho...
[23:49:17] <emeb> The ground cable is still attached so it must be OK ;)
[23:49:36] <djlewis> yeah, sure, what you say ;P
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[23:52:05] <emeb> djlewis: like the transient capture on the DSO
[23:52:48] <djlewis> I just hit the stop button and saved the image to a usb stick
[23:53:37] <djlewis> The actual freq of the blue ring is about 150Khz
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[23:54:06] <djlewis> numbers were changing a lot