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  • [00:32:01] <aberrant> is it appropriate to ask a question about the gumstix chestnut43 board here?
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  • [07:10:51] <_av500_> ask
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  • [07:27:45] <hgs> which is DISTRO is preferable for omap3530 "angstrom-2008.1" or angstrom-2009.... if any?? (dont know whether it is a right question to ask??)
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  • [08:00:55] <kblin> morning folks
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  • [08:19:09] <kblin> hm, is OE supposed to spit out tons of tar errors on kernel files when I bitbake something?
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  • [08:34:55] <kblin> what the heck?
  • [08:35:39] <kblin> error: cannot open .git/FETCH_HEAD: No space left on device
  • [08:36:07] <kblin> there's > 150 GB left on that device, how big can a file that contains a sha1sum be?
  • [08:39:57] <koen> you can run out of inodes or quotum
  • [08:40:11] <kblin> looks like
  • [08:41:10] <mru> fun
  • [08:43:27] <kblin> hm, crud
  • [08:44:14] <kblin> a bit hard to fix on a filesystem I use for development (lots of small files) and virtual machines (some really big files)
  • [08:44:52] <kblin> I guess I need to look into some other option of cross-building samba
  • [08:45:13] <mru> I build most things in tmpfs and delete the build tree afterwards
  • [08:48:00] <kblin> OE builds in build/tmp-<distro> ?
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  • [09:34:41] <kblin> whoa
  • [09:34:53] <kblin> mru: how big a tmpfs do you use?
  • [09:35:26] <kblin> I'm about to run out of 3GB storage right now
  • [09:35:54] <mru> the default 50% of ram
  • [09:35:57] <mru> so 6GB for me
  • [09:36:01] <mru> 4GB on the laptop
  • [09:36:16] <kblin> only got 4 gig oon this machine
  • [09:36:24] <mru> OE eats diskspace like crazy
  • [09:36:29] <kblin> so I noticed
  • [09:36:40] <mru> it doesn't delete anything until _everything_ has been built
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  • [09:38:03] <kblin> there we go, out of 3 gig
  • [09:38:42] <kblin> I guess I need to reformat my data partition to cope with the number of files
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  • [09:40:32] <koen> not entirely true
  • [09:40:44] <koen> the rm_work_all task runs at the end
  • [09:41:00] <koen> and some rm_work tasks run in between
  • [09:41:11] <mru> still mostly true
  • [09:41:14] <koen> but it's up to the scheduler to say when
  • [09:41:28] <mru> it's way too space hungry
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  • [09:45:43] <kblin> hehe
  • [09:45:43] <koen> no doubt about that
  • [09:45:57] <kblin> let's try this again. mount -o loop to the rescue
  • [09:45:58] <koen> but it builds nicely in a 36GB ramdisk :)
  • [09:46:35] <kblin> koen: right.. I think I've got a machine like that in my pocket somewhere
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  • [10:50:46] * koen wonders why fedora makes it so hard to install external modules
  • [10:50:56] <koen> </family tech support>
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  • [11:18:04] <mru> koen: you have your family running fedora?
  • [11:18:07] <mru> that's cruel...
  • [11:20:11] <koen> ah, gitorious works again
  • [11:21:20] <kblin> ok...
  • [11:21:25] <koen> it seems fedora now has 'i686' and 'i686-pae'
  • [11:21:37] <kblin> I just ran out of 8 GB of disk space...
  • [11:21:45] <kblin> for an OE build
  • [11:21:48] <koen> and if you have -pae all your modules are broken
  • [11:22:05] <kblin> ah, that sounds like a useful feature
  • [11:22:20] <koen> since 'yum install' will only install the i686 versions
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  • [11:23:25] <koen> I always check if I have 30GB available when building
  • [11:23:42] <koen> things like qt and samba easily take up >3GB during build
  • [11:23:52] <koen> (qt approx 9GB)
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  • [11:29:24] <kblin> I've natively built samba on 2GB sd cards, hence my surprise
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  • [11:56:45] <_av500_> my samba build folder is 165M
  • [11:57:21] <_av500_> I wonder if oe stores each bit in one unsigned char
  • [12:00:04] <DaveDavenport> who knows
  • [12:00:44] <_av500_> or xml
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  • [12:04:11] <mru> <bit value=0/>
  • [12:04:22] <mru> <boolean value="file_not_found"/>
  • [12:04:25] <koen> -ggdb3
  • [12:05:31] <koen> although I think the people who demanded gdb3 need to get real and accept -g in the near future
  • [12:06:33] <Crofton> heh
  • [12:07:09] <Crofton> what does gdb3 do? Besides explode build size
  • [12:08:32] <DaveDavenport> debug
  • [12:08:54] <DaveDavenport> yay did a full squeezeos-image build
  • [12:09:00] <DaveDavenport> parte time
  • [12:11:13] <Crofton> let me rephrase gdb3 verus -g
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  • [12:12:34] <Fil_> hi
  • [12:12:41] <koen> Crofton: http://old.nabble.com/difference-between--g,--ggdb-and--ggdb3-td22082494.html
  • [12:12:47] <mru> Crofton: it adds more debugging information
  • [12:12:53] <mru> line numbers inside macros and such
  • [12:12:53] <Fil_> Can I ask I stupid question?
  • [12:13:03] <mru> yes, but you'll get a stupid answer
  • [12:13:09] <mru> possibly more stupid than the question
  • [12:13:16] <mru> we use non-linear arithmetic here
  • [12:13:25] <koen> especially on friday
  • [12:13:25] <Fil_> I received a Beagleboard C4 two days ago
  • [12:13:34] <Fil_> its Saturday, isnt it?
  • [12:13:50] <mru> friday sometimes extends into saturday
  • [12:13:53] <Fil_> and I've been trying like crazy to change the resolution in Ubuntu by modifying the xorg
  • [12:13:57] <mru> occasionally even into tuesday
  • [12:14:12] <Fil_> yet it keeps defaulting back to 1280x720
  • [12:15:03] <Fil_> now my question is, can I change the kernel command from console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait ro vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60 fixrtc buddy=unknown mpurate=720 to use the resolution I want without the Serial console
  • [12:15:54] <Crofton> saveenv?
  • [12:16:15] <Fil_> and that works without using the serial cable?
  • [12:16:41] <mru> koen: slap Crofton
  • [12:16:48] * koen slaps Crofton
  • [12:16:50] <Crofton> heh
  • [12:16:54] <koen> use a boot.scr
  • [12:17:21] <koen> in angstrom you can do 'opkg install angstrom-uboot-scripts'
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  • [12:17:34] <koen> ubuntu prolly lacks such an example package
  • [12:18:12] <Fil_> what about: uboot-envtools - read/modify the environment for the bootloader U-Boot
  • [12:20:12] <kblin> sounds reasonable
  • [12:21:04] <koen> that's the same as saveenv
  • [12:21:22] <koen> and people using saveenv causes 75% of the RMAs
  • [12:22:03] <kblin> koen: savenv causes my EHCI to be flaky? :)
  • [12:22:37] <Fil_> so, whats boot.scr?
  • [12:22:49] <Fil_> I dont really want to brick this thing the second day I received it
  • [12:23:10] <adj> you can't brick it
  • [12:23:13] <kblin> it's a script that controls the boot process
  • [12:23:29] <kblin> adj: well, you can if you don't have a serial cable, I guess :)
  • [12:23:46] <kblin> arguably it's not really bricked in that case
  • [12:23:59] <adj> exactly
  • [12:24:17] <Fil_> ok, Ill have to get a serial cable anyway. Is there any link which gives information on how to use boot.scr?
  • [12:24:29] <kblin> Fil_: the nice part about boot.scr is that you just put it on your boot medium (sd card, usually) and the boot loader will load that
  • [12:24:50] <kblin> so instead of having to fiddle with settings in nand, you can fiddle with settings on the card
  • [12:25:03] <Fil_> sound good
  • [12:25:13] <Fil_> can I do it from within the beagleboard?
  • [12:25:40] <rcn-ee> Fil_, yeap you could if it's my image like it sounds uboot tools are installed.. http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#U-Boot_Boot_Scripts
  • [12:25:59] <kblin> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#U-Boot_Boot_Scripts
  • [12:26:59] <Fil_> well, I used the Demo Image from the webby
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  • [12:30:47] <Fil_> is it possible to see what my current Boot.scr says?
  • [12:32:09] <kblin> oh yay, up to 11 gig disk space usage
  • [12:32:39] <rcn-ee> Fil_, 'cat boot.scr' or look on your development pc, the tar.7z file has a boot.cmd used as a base..
  • [12:32:57] <Fil_> oh cheers
  • [12:33:25] <Fil_> ooh, boot.scr has some gibberish as well
  • [12:33:31] <_av500_> yes
  • [12:33:35] <rcn-ee> yeap, that's the u-boot header...
  • [12:33:46] <_av500_> uboot loves gibberish
  • [12:34:22] <_av500_> a plain text file would have been too easy
  • [12:35:37] <Fil_> since I have the C4, I use the boot-C4.cmd right?
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  • [12:36:33] <rcn-ee> sure (you have an older package, it's combined now) in that version it just forces mpurate to 720
  • [12:36:44] <Fil_> oh
  • [12:36:58] <Fil_> Thats also what seemed weird in that patched installed
  • [12:37:00] <Fil_> installer
  • [12:37:10] <Fil_> it didnt have the -beagle_c4 option anymore
  • [12:37:28] <Fil_> for mem cards which mount at mmcblk
  • [12:38:55] <rcn-ee> yeah i should really post a better interm solution, but i'll be uploading a 10.04.1 image in a week anways..
  • [12:39:58] <Fil_> k
  • [12:40:23] <Fil_> stupid question
  • [12:40:31] <Fil_> Im doing the boot.scr now
  • [12:40:36] <Fil_> and I dont understand these lines
  • [12:40:36] <Fil_> sudo cp ./uImage ./tmp/uImage sudo cp ./uInitrd ./tmp/uInitrd
  • [12:40:57] <Fil_> shuld I be generating uImage and uInitrd as well?
  • [12:41:52] <rcn-ee> if your just editing the boot.scr, no..
  • [12:41:57] <Fil_> k
  • [12:42:05] <rcn-ee> it's just the kernel and modules
  • [12:42:16] <kblin> ok, "bitbake samba" peaked at 16 gig...
  • [12:42:25] <rcn-ee> i'm assuming they are still on the sd card...
  • [12:43:04] <Fil_> yes they should be
  • [12:43:09] <Fil_> oh, since I am already here
  • [12:43:32] <Fil_> is there a way to force the beagleboard to load from SD always without having to press the user button?
  • [12:43:50] <Fil_> again, without using a serial cable
  • [12:44:51] <kblin> isn't that the default if an sd card is present?
  • [12:45:56] <Fil_> User button not pressed: NAND -> USB -> UART -> MMC
  • [12:46:12] <Fil_> according to http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#User_button
  • [12:47:40] <rcn-ee> Fil_, for next time: http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/testing/setup_sdcard.sh (laptops with mmc '/dev/mmcblk')
  • [12:48:01] <Fil_> thnx
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  • [12:53:35] <Fil_> so I guess I have to have a serial cable to force the beagleboard to always load from sd card?
  • [12:53:54] <Fil_> is the user button used for anything else, but the boot order?
  • [12:55:31] <rcn-ee> no, as long as X-loader and u-boot are new enough it'll find the boot.scr on the sd card and use that..
  • [12:56:02] <Fil_> so that wouldnt apply?
  • [12:56:02] <Fil_> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#User_button
  • [12:59:16] <rcn-ee> The user button just changes the boot order to force it to boot from the 'mmc' card.. useful when the NAND is corrupt/etc..
  • [12:59:59] <Fil_> oh okay
  • [13:00:00] <rcn-ee> Otherwise, the X-loader in NAND is setup to try to load u-boot.bin from MMC if available..
  • [13:00:11] <Fil_> hmm, Ill have to double check that
  • [13:00:19] <Fil_> I usually have to hold the button
  • [13:00:45] <Fil_> when Im loading from a cold boot (i.e. when the board was unplugged from mains)
  • [13:01:22] <rcn-ee> if you have to hold the user button down, your X-loader in NAND is too old... (i didn't implement a user.scr in that old version) so just use this with a 2nd sd card: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Upgrade_X-loader_and_U-boot
  • [13:02:14] <Fil_> do I need a serial console for that?
  • [13:03:17] <rcn-ee> No it's fully scripted, if you don't have a serial cable, just make sure to let it run for atleast a minute to make sure it does its work..
  • [13:05:59] <Fil_> sounds good
  • [13:06:05] <Fil_> Ill try that laters
  • [13:06:16] <Fil_> Thanks for all the help :)
  • [13:06:41] <Fil_> oh I just remembered, is there an easy way to keep the system clock ?
  • [13:07:21] <rcn-ee> solder a battery to the board...
  • [13:07:31] <rcn-ee> or pick up a zippy1/2
  • [13:08:06] <Fil_> yeah, but with the zippy1/2 the dog house I have becomes too small >_<
  • [13:09:41] <Fil_> ok, thanks for all the info. Now Im off to get the touch screen to work
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  • [13:17:09] <Fil_> am I the only one who gets seg fault when trying to use the evtouch driver?
  • [13:20:33] <ddd> For code engine, how to distinguish where is DSP processing ? i.e, inside apps/app.c ==> function "Void encode_decode( )" ==> then, use function "status = VIDENC_control()" ==> have to use function "status = VIDENC_process(enc, x, x, x)" and the "enc" engine must be created previously, also inBuf... has to be used.
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  • [13:32:08] <_av500_> ddd: yes or no or maybe
  • [13:33:08] <ddd> av500, it looks like vague
  • [13:34:03] <_av500_> your question, yes very vague
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  • [13:36:35] <ddd> sb else may answer it?
  • [13:36:46] <Fil_> did somebody get a eGalax Touchscreen get to work on the beagleboard?
  • [13:36:59] * mru has horrible memories of that one
  • [13:37:18] <mru> I think the drivers have improved since then though
  • [13:37:28] <Fil_> evdev doesnt seem to work
  • [13:37:32] <mru> talking about ~2004
  • [13:37:48] <Fil_> an evtouch segments
  • [13:38:35] <Fil_> and I cant seem to build evtouch because it relies on files which dont exist anymore :(
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  • [13:38:47] <Fil_> and the eGalax public driver is binary only
  • [13:39:08] <mru> hmm, maybe they haven't improved then after all
  • [13:39:16] * koen hands Fil_ some spare 'y's
  • [13:45:17] <Fil_> beh, now its not even finding the evdev module O_o
  • [13:46:02] <_av500_> ddd: i still suggest to ask less vague
  • [13:48:01] <DaveDavenport> yeah don't used aliased fonts.
  • [13:53:03] <koen> hey, a new FATE
  • [13:53:42] <DaveDavenport> also some extra Faith?
  • [13:54:32] <ddd> many thanks to u
  • [13:54:37] <ddd> a500
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  • [14:27:04] <ixbidie> heyho
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  • [15:25:42] <Fil_> hi again
  • [15:25:53] <Fil_> I realise that this might be the wrong place to ask this question
  • [15:26:07] <Fil_> but does anyuone have experience with xinput?
  • [15:27:03] <ixbidie> nope :P
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  • [15:30:22] <Fil_> :(
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  • [15:37:23] <Fil_> would you know where to ask questions about evdev/xinput
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  • [15:38:06] <ixbidie> Fil_, i guess not really, u must know: i'm just here to ask if the beagleboard is able to encode mpeg-4 in realtime :P
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  • [16:08:09] <_av500_> it is
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  • [16:16:32] <ixbidie> _av500_, did u ment me?
  • [16:17:09] <ixbidie> _av500_, up to what resolution?
  • [16:25:01] <_av500_> d1
  • [16:25:06] <_av500_> vga
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  • [16:31:01] <ixbidie> nice
  • [16:31:16] <ixbidie> but i mean ENcode, not DEcode...
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  • [17:02:10] <_av500_> me too
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  • [17:14:47] <ixbidie> thx
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  • [17:47:19] <AreaScout> hi all, does anyone know if the omapfb device supports hardware scaling ?
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  • [17:54:03] <mru> it does
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  • [18:06:38] <AreaScout> ahh ok :) do i have to use the overlay device for that ?
  • [18:07:18] <mru> yes
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  • [18:13:26] <AreaScout> let's say my app deliver 320x240 display resolution, and DVI is set to 640x480 do i have to setup input_video to 320x240 and output_video to 640x480 ?
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  • [18:13:42] <mru> yes, that is possible
  • [18:15:01] <AreaScout> but to echo in my input_video gave me an permission denied error ?
  • [18:16:10] <AreaScout> under /sys/devices/platform/omapdss/overlay1
  • [18:16:29] <AreaScout> sorry overlay0
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  • [18:21:45] <AreaScout> also i read about a ofbset tool, how can i build it or find the source ?
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  • [19:38:40] <djlewis> damn, 38.38888888 degree and hotter tomorrow.
  • [19:40:02] <mru> that's a very precise thermometer you've got
  • [19:40:18] <djlewis> and 40C for Monday :(
  • [19:40:29] <mru> 90 degrees in the corner
  • [19:41:28] <djlewis> I was gonna go out and do some outside chores, but alas, perhaps not.
  • [19:46:27] <koen> and pizza?
  • [19:47:03] <koen> oooh, new 26+26 feature
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  • [19:49:34] <djlewis> Could cook pizza out in the observatory
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  • [19:52:56] <koen> with your mirror to heat it?
  • [19:53:04] <koen> or is it still in memphis?
  • [19:53:19] <djlewis> hmmm. that might be too hot.
  • [19:53:36] <mru> use two mirrors and make a cheese laser
  • [19:53:42] <koen> I once had a pizza nearly cooked in a freezer
  • [19:53:43] <djlewis> THis week a eyepiece I ordered was stuck in memphis but I got it yesterday.
  • [19:53:48] <koen> it got stuck in defrost mode
  • [19:54:09] <djlewis> yuch
  • [19:54:10] <koen> pizza was 60 degrees C when I noticed the error
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  • [19:55:33] <djlewis> eyepiece works good. I got to enjoy it lsat night before moonrise.
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  • [21:24:49] <jeremiah> f
  • [21:29:19] <Gaston|Home> 10
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  • [21:45:03] <cwillu_at_work> ????????????????
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