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  • [05:00:45] <hitlin37> is it ok to go with unstable option in narcissus image
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  • [05:21:34] <hitlin37> how much size BB/angstrom takes for virtual memory
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  • [05:42:33] <av500> ?
  • [05:44:32] <hitlin37> i mean the way we get virtual memory in x86,how much angstrom allocates virtual memory
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  • [05:48:21] <av500> ?
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  • [05:51:27] <ddd> anybody knows where to put the compiler optimization parameter in Codec Engine? I mean which file(s) is? thx
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  • [05:59:44] <mru> morning
  • [06:02:58] <av500> gm
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  • [06:37:29] <hgs> hi all, is omapdmaifbsink (gstreamer plugin) is meant to work only with X11??
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  • [07:12:52] <koen> hgs: it works on both
  • [07:13:06] <koen> hgs: but it links against x11 and looks at $DISPLAY at startup
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  • [07:14:45] <mru> morning jpsaman
  • [07:15:06] <jpsaman> morning mru
  • [07:15:20] <koen> good morning all
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  • [07:15:38] <koen> mru: $1k confirmed :)
  • [07:15:52] <mru> koen: that was easy money
  • [07:22:36] <koen> indeed
  • [07:22:43] <koen> but Matt is superhappy with it
  • [07:23:33] <mru> koen: like the taste of consulting fees?
  • [07:24:13] <hgs> koen: thanks...need x11 now and i dont have enough space in my drive to do it with bitbake...err.....
  • [07:25:04] <mru> get bigger disk
  • [07:25:32] <ynezz> or delete pron
  • [07:25:36] <mru> there's a reason I got a 500GB disk for my new laptop
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  • [07:25:45] <mru> and skipped the puny ssd
  • [07:28:21] <jl_> hi, everyone, I meet a problem when I port dvsdk
  • [07:28:25] <jl_> "omapdss DISPC error: GFX_FIFO_UNDERFLOW, disabling GFX" and display is off.
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  • [07:31:04] <jl_> Who could give me some advice? Thank you.
  • [07:31:31] <av500> port?
  • [07:31:55] <jl_> av500: yes, I use dss
  • [07:32:40] <mru> that's an unusual error
  • [07:32:46] <jl_> av500: Must I use dss2? thank you
  • [07:32:46] <mru> what configuration are you using?
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  • [07:35:04] <av500> mru: not unusual
  • [07:35:08] <jl_> I use dvsdk + nfs in 7"LCD
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  • [07:35:22] <jl_> It is my configuration:
  • [07:35:26] <jl_> setenv bootargs console=ttyS2,115200n8 noinitrd rootdelay=5 rw root=/dev/nfs rootfstype=nfs nfsroot=10.126.38.238:/home/liiimjia/workdir/filesys,nolock mem=99M ip=dhcp video=omapfb:mode:7inch_LCD mpurate=720 omapfb.rotate=1 omapfb.vrfb=y vram=10M omapfb.vram=0:10M omap_vout.vid1_static_vrfb_alloc=y
  • [07:35:35] <mru> av500: I've never seen that one
  • [07:35:42] <av500> jl_: and you rotate?
  • [07:35:46] <mru> I understand what it means
  • [07:35:53] <mru> something was too slow feeding the fifo
  • [07:36:01] <av500> mru: vrfb has 4x mem bw penalty
  • [07:36:04] <mru> but that doesn't usually happen
  • [07:36:10] <_koen_> ah, vrfb
  • [07:36:13] <_koen_> that sucks bw
  • [07:36:16] <av500> +t
  • [07:36:19] <mru> that's why I asked about config
  • [07:36:19] <hgs> jl_: are you using resizer??
  • [07:36:23] <jl_> my dram is 128M
  • [07:36:26] <mru> figured it had to be something eating bw
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  • [07:38:51] <jl_> hgs: How to use resizer?
  • [07:39:20] <jl_> av500: omapfb.rotate=1, yes
  • [07:39:30] <av500> dont do that
  • [07:39:38] <av500> or apply the patch
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  • [07:41:00] <jl_> av500: don't rotate, the display is abnormal
  • [07:41:20] <jl_> av500: Where to get patch?
  • [07:41:40] <av500> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/87420/
  • [07:42:13] <av500> jl_: you must have missed it when googling....
  • [07:44:06] <jl_> av500: yes, I think so, thank you, I will try it
  • [07:44:53] <av500> or just disable vrfb
  • [07:45:46] <mru> rotation is overrated anyway
  • [07:45:54] <mru> just rotate the device instead
  • [07:46:21] <av500> or, if you need it, SW rotate on the write side
  • [07:46:44] <mru> that may not be so easy
  • [07:47:08] <jl_> av500: how to disable vrfb?
  • [07:47:15] <av500> omapfb.rotate=0?
  • [07:47:21] <mru> hmm, how hard would it be to make a video decoder rotate by 90 degrees?
  • [07:47:28] <av500> omapfb.vrfb=n
  • [07:47:42] <av500> mru: on a per mb level, while decoding
  • [07:47:58] <av500> actually, while 420>422
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  • [07:48:35] <woglinde> gm
  • [07:50:33] <hirlin37> how to i use .img.gz of .94Mib file generated by narcissus,rootfs i know i need to put in rootfs partition
  • [07:50:36] <jl_> av500: I see, I will try it
  • [07:50:38] <mru> av500: it would mean translating all the mc and deblock ops
  • [07:50:42] <mru> but it should be possible
  • [07:50:53] <mru> as long as all operations are available in both directions
  • [07:51:29] <hgs> av500: i see the patch for rotate already included in the driver and issue was still persisting..when going for resolution of 720P ???
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  • [07:53:51] <av500> mru: didnt even think that far, just in the final 420->422 step, using dsp iram as bounce+rotate buffer
  • [07:54:36] <mru> hmm, I could cook a rotating neon converter easily enough
  • [07:54:47] <av500> I dont doubt that :)
  • [07:54:53] <jl_> av500: omapdss DISPC error: GFX_FIFO_UNDERFLOW, disabling GFX
  • [07:55:01] <av500> so?
  • [07:55:08] <jl_> av500: omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST, disabling LCD
  • [07:55:18] <woglinde> uh
  • [07:55:18] <av500> vrfb=y?
  • [07:55:23] <av500> vrfb=n?
  • [07:55:30] <jl_> av500: vrfb=n
  • [07:55:36] <jl_> av500: Error: Failed to put display buffer
  • [07:55:47] <jl_> av500: I get more error
  • [07:55:50] <av500> yes
  • [07:56:14] <jl_> av500: I will try to set rotate=0
  • [07:56:41] <av500> what does rotate=1 mean?
  • [07:56:47] <av500> enabled or rotated?
  • [07:56:57] <mru> rotabled
  • [07:57:29] <av500> virturotabled
  • [07:57:38] <woglinde> its friday again
  • [07:57:45] <jl_> av500: I will set omapfb.rotate=0
  • [07:57:52] <av500> woglinde: no, its monday morning
  • [07:58:01] <av500> thats a different state
  • [07:58:05] <mru> that's your personal opinion
  • [07:58:28] <av500> its a professional guess!
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  • [07:58:50] <mru> let me quote some Dave Butler: Silly is a state of Mind, Stupid is a way of Life.
  • [07:59:21] <jl_> av500: It is ok, I can login
  • [08:04:28] <jl_> av500: Could you give some advices how to rapidly test my dvsdk in shell? I want to know whether it is ok
  • [08:04:37] <av500> what is dvsdk?
  • [08:04:46] <av500> question answered?
  • [08:04:46] <woglinde> av500 ti-codec-engine
  • [08:04:51] <woglinde> *g*
  • [08:05:05] <av500> run the examples?
  • [08:05:14] <jl_> av500: yes, ti codec engine
  • [08:05:18] <av500> run the examples?
  • [08:05:43] <woglinde> jl_ run th examples
  • [08:06:01] <woglinde> or run ti-gstreamer
  • [08:06:06] <jl_> av500: yes, some examples that you often test or run
  • [08:07:07] <jl_> av500: I want to test: ti-codec --> dsp
  • [08:07:10] <av500> run the codec-engine examples?
  • [08:07:12] <woglinde> opkg install ti-codec-engine-examples
  • [08:07:20] <woglinde> wow that was hard
  • [08:08:05] <jl_> woglinde: can they run in shell env?
  • [08:08:14] <av500> jl_: did you try?
  • [08:08:39] <woglinde> they should they arnt using sgx
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  • [08:09:47] <jl_> av500: yes, I am using /opt/dvsdk/omap3530/decode and encode tool to test
  • [08:10:13] <av500> so?
  • [08:10:29] <jl_> av500: but I don't know whether they can do work rightly
  • [08:10:38] <woglinde> hm its new to me that the ti-codec-engine uses /opt path
  • [08:10:49] <av500> jl_: well, do they encode and decode?
  • [08:11:43] <jl_> av500: I am looking for some test media files for them
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  • [08:14:54] <_koen_> woglinde: it should be doing that, I'm waging war against using /opt in TI
  • [08:15:42] <woglinde> koen hm oh
  • [08:16:34] <woglinde> hm install ${i} ${D}/${installdir}/ti-codec-engine-examples/
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  • [08:27:01] <jl_> av500: How to config that I can input from minicom and beagleboard
  • [08:27:25] <jl_> av500: Now I can only input from beagleboard
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  • [08:31:10] <woglinde> jl ?????
  • [08:31:19] <av500> ?????
  • [08:31:29] <jl_> woglinde: yeah
  • [08:31:34] <mru> !!!!!
  • [08:32:03] <jl_> woglinde: After I ran 'decode -a 1.mp3', I got much info
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  • [08:32:29] <jl_> woglinde: and DSP_init status [0x80008008]
  • [08:32:37] <woglinde> so it seems to work
  • [08:32:41] <jl_> woglinde: my DSP is working?
  • [08:32:53] <woglinde> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Example_GStreamer_Pipelines#OMAP35x
  • [08:32:58] <woglinde> try this
  • [08:33:00] <jl_> woglinde: wa ha :)
  • [08:33:32] <jl_> woglinde: Yes, I have seen it
  • [08:33:43] <jl_> woglinde: some audio tests are ok
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  • [08:34:07] <koen> that fsck took longer than expected
  • [08:34:23] <jl_> woglinde: but video test is error, some elements don't be found
  • [08:34:36] <av500> 0x80008008 does not look like a success to me
  • [08:34:59] <av500> in fact, it is DSP_EFAIL
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  • [08:35:21] <woglinde> jl forgot the kernel modules?
  • [08:36:19] <av500> koen: is dvsk documentation really that bad?
  • [08:38:09] <woglinde> av500 normaly not
  • [08:38:13] <woglinde> there are shell scripts
  • [08:38:19] <woglinde> which does testing stuff
  • [08:38:24] <woglinde> if I remember correctly
  • [08:40:12] <mru> documentation is always bad
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  • [08:40:21] <_koen_> av500: I think it is
  • [08:40:23] <mru> if it exists, it is wrong
  • [08:40:24] <jl_> woglinde: my kernel is 6.29
  • [08:40:45] <woglinde> ugh
  • [08:40:47] <woglinde> why?
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  • [08:40:52] <woglinde> use the .32 psp
  • [08:40:57] <woglinde> gm florian
  • [08:41:08] <florian> good morning
  • [08:41:42] <hrw> morgen
  • [08:42:10] <woglinde> hrw I thought your were in czech
  • [08:42:14] <woglinde> not germany
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  • [08:46:12] <hrw> woglinde: prague -> berlin -> angermunde -> szczecin yesterday
  • [08:46:23] <jl_> woglinde: How to turn off debug info, too much
  • [08:46:32] <woglinde> jl sorry dont know
  • [08:46:38] <av500> inb4 close eyes
  • [08:46:53] <mru> av500: I already used that one
  • [08:47:01] <mru> jl_: unplug serial cable
  • [08:47:10] <jl_> CE_DEBUG=?
  • [08:47:22] <av500> well, dont put CE_DEBUG at all
  • [08:47:41] <jl_> but now it is 2
  • [08:49:17] <jl_> woglinde: I ran: gst-launch -v videotestsrc ! TIDmaiVideoSink videoStd=VGA videoOutput=LCD accelFrameCopy=FALSE sync=false
  • [08:49:34] <jl_> woglinde: much info in LCD
  • [08:50:15] <jl_> woglinde: some are ti.sdo.dmai
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  • [08:51:40] <jl_> woglinde: but I found one error: from element /GstPipeline0/GstITDmaiVideoSink: tidmaivideosink0: Unable to initialize display
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  • [08:52:14] <woglinde> *sigh*
  • [08:52:22] <woglinde> use a pipeline without video
  • [08:52:27] <_koen_> why do people keep using that slow dmaisink?
  • [08:52:34] <_koen_> it's using sdma, that can never be fast for video
  • [08:52:47] <mru> _koen_: why is that?
  • [08:53:40] <av500> _koen_: of course it can
  • [08:53:49] <_koen_> let me rephrase that
  • [08:53:56] <jl_> woglinde:How to do?
  • [08:53:56] <av500> nobody forces you to wait for dma
  • [08:54:00] <_koen_> I have never seen it being faster than other methods
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  • [08:54:06] <jl_> woglinde: gst-launch -v videotestsrc ! TIDmaiVideoSink videoStd=VGA videoOutput=LCD accelFrameCopy=FALSE sync=false
  • [08:54:13] <woglinde> because nobody read If you are using Angstrom distribution on beagleboard then you can use "omapdmaifbsink" instead of "TIDmaiVideoSink" to display the video inside the X windowing system.
  • [08:54:34] <woglinde> or they read
  • [08:54:43] <mru> av500: are you using normal sdma or fast_sdma?
  • [08:54:54] <av500> fast_idma3
  • [08:55:39] * _koen_ stabs mistral for requiring registration for doc downloads
  • [08:55:54] <woglinde> *g*
  • [08:56:18] <woglinde> koen he nobody in iraq should be able to read it
  • [08:56:22] <_koen_> right
  • [08:56:36] <_koen_> god forbid saddam reads about SW4 to set sysboot pins
  • [08:56:59] <jl_> woglinde: Ok I will try gst-launch -v videotestsrc ! omapdmaifbsink videoStd=VGA videoOutput=LCD accelFrameCopy=FALSE sync=false
  • [08:57:07] <mru> _koen_: saddam is in hell now, god has no say there
  • [08:57:10] <av500> _koen_: he is with god, yes
  • [08:57:30] <_koen_> omapdmaifbsink doesn't need all those unbreak-me options
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  • [08:57:59] <av500> _koen_: [10:52] <_koen_> why do people keep using that slow dmaisink?
  • [08:58:08] <av500> asking that is a bit unfair though
  • [08:58:25] <_koen_> omapdmaifbsink is the fastest one out there
  • [08:58:31] <_koen_> as opposed to tidmaivideosink
  • [08:58:40] * mru uses kitchensink
  • [08:58:55] <av500> _koen_: sure, but people go to TI websites to find the slow one too it seems
  • [08:59:05] <av500> so, why do said websites still exist?
  • [08:59:41] * woglinde is puzzled about http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/File:Gstreamer_system_stack.jpg
  • [09:00:04] <av500> yes, way too few boyes
  • [09:00:08] <av500> boxes
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  • [09:01:33] <jl_> woglinde: omapdmaifbsink is for Angstrom?
  • [09:01:52] <woglinde> jl arent you using angstrom?
  • [09:02:31] <woglinde> jl do have running X?
  • [09:02:36] <jl_> woglinde: no, I am only in shell env
  • [09:03:02] <woglinde> so why you tried something with video output?
  • [09:03:14] <jl_> woglinde: I ran it, but it told me no element omapdamifbsink
  • [09:03:49] <jl_> woglinde: :( , I only want to test decode video
  • [09:04:03] <jl_> woglinde: whether my DSP is ok
  • [09:04:26] <jl_> woglinde: do you know other test methods?
  • [09:04:40] <woglinde> no
  • [09:04:45] <jl_> woglinde: gstreamer--> dvsdk-->codec-->DSP
  • [09:05:11] <jl_> woglinde: whether I can test in dvsdk layer?
  • [09:05:42] <av500> jl_: why should your dsp not be "ok"?
  • [09:05:52] <woglinde> whats wrong with? gst-launch filesrc location=sample.jpeg ! TIImgdec1 codecName=jpegdec engineName=codecServer ! filesink location=sample.uyvy
  • [09:06:54] <jl_> av500: Whether gstreamer can work without DSP?
  • [09:07:11] <av500> ?
  • [09:07:21] <mru> gst-launtch filesrc ! memcpy ! decoder ! memcpy ! memcpy ! colourspace ! memcpy ! upscale ! memcpy ! downscale ! memcpy ! memcpy ! null
  • [09:07:23] <woglinde> hm I should give up
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  • [09:07:37] <jl_> av500: but I want to enabe my DSP
  • [09:07:41] <woglinde> jl seems to be in another world
  • [09:07:45] <jl_> av500: to wokr
  • [09:07:50] <jl_> av500: to work
  • [09:07:50] <woglinde> of thoughts
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  • [09:08:54] <jl_> av500: so I want to know how to test whether DSP works normarlly. thank you
  • [09:09:10] <av500> run ce examples
  • [09:10:59] <jl_> av500: ok, I will try
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  • [09:12:19] <woglinde> jl what will you do after you find out that your DSP works?
  • [09:12:29] <_koen_> av500: I'm in contact with the codec teams, but still only a lot of handwaving
  • [09:12:34] <jl_> av500: I am compiling ce example
  • [09:13:01] <jl_> woglinde: I want to port it into android
  • [09:13:02] <woglinde> jl are you running angstroem you didnt answer
  • [09:13:10] <woglinde> jl lol
  • [09:13:18] <av500> _koen_: ok
  • [09:13:38] <woglinde> koen hm handwaveing about what?
  • [09:13:39] <jl_> woglinde: no, I haven't any x-windows
  • [09:13:47] <jl_> woglinde: I am testing in shell
  • [09:13:55] <woglinde> angstroem isnt X
  • [09:13:57] <woglinde> *sigh*
  • [09:14:21] <hirlin37> i generated narcissus image but im giving power through usb.which uImage do i need in my case?
  • [09:14:23] <_koen_> woglinde: about vp8 codecs
  • [09:14:29] <woglinde> koen hm ah
  • [09:14:41] <jl_> woglinde: I found some ones have ported gstreamer into android but it hasn't DSP surpporting
  • [09:15:01] <woglinde> jl aeh thats not the problem
  • [09:15:32] <hirlin37> im getting kernel panic-not syncyingFAtal exception interuppt
  • [09:15:41] <woglinde> jl first you need a device which has a supported dsp
  • [09:15:53] <woglinde> second you need to port all kernel modules
  • [09:16:02] <woglinde> jl short answer forget it
  • [09:16:19] <av500> woglinde: ???
  • [09:16:43] <jl_> woglinde: yes my boarder has omap3550, it has DSP
  • [09:16:57] <av500> woglinde: android runs on omap3, as does codec engine etc
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  • [09:17:19] <woglinde> av500 hm
  • [09:17:32] <av500> its is just work, but nothing undoable
  • [09:17:48] <_koen_> woglinde: I copied the linker mail to your tarent account
  • [09:17:56] <woglinde> koen yes saw it
  • [09:18:12] <woglinde> koen is possible to make g_ether into the kernel instead of modul?
  • [09:18:28] <_koen_> woglinde: not really
  • [09:18:34] <woglinde> that would fix the musb crash
  • [09:18:36] <_koen_> that means you can only use g_ether
  • [09:18:52] <woglinde> when power up via usbcable
  • [09:19:08] <woglinde> damn musb
  • [09:19:10] <_koen_> I can add a multiconfig in OE that turns on cpuidle and g_ether
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  • [09:19:33] <_koen_> it wouldn't be the default kernel, but it would enable the usb powered people
  • [09:19:57] <woglinde> or someone would fix this musb bug
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  • [09:20:33] <jl_> av500: is it workable to port ti codec into android? thank you
  • [09:21:30] <hitlin37> how can i get my angstrom running with usb power now?
  • [09:22:02] <woglinde> hitlin37 you need a kernel with build in g_ether
  • [09:22:09] <woglinde> that isnt available yet
  • [09:22:14] <woglinde> koen is working on it
  • [09:22:22] <woglinde> but dont expect it today
  • [09:22:37] <woglinde> hitlin try to get external power adapter for now
  • [09:22:54] <woglinde> hm maybee there is some kernel option
  • [09:23:06] <woglinde> which prevents msub to crash
  • [09:24:50] <hitlin37> hmmm
  • [09:26:29] <woglinde> seems this covers the same problem
  • [09:26:31] <woglinde> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/linux-ti-omap/+bug/541030
  • [09:28:25] <hitlin37> i hav a 12 v adapter,BB says 5v
  • [09:28:33] <woglinde> yes
  • [09:28:42] <woglinde> 5 V
  • [09:29:06] <hitlin37> hmmm....i need to buy one now
  • [09:32:21] <woglinde> or you can try to setup angstroem
  • [09:32:26] <hitlin37> if i bulit again using narcissus with console only,will it work with usb power
  • [09:32:28] <woglinde> aeh oe
  • [09:32:36] <woglinde> hitlin no
  • [09:32:40] <woglinde> its a kernel problem
  • [09:32:46] <hitlin37> hmmm
  • [09:32:56] <woglinde> you can set up openembedded and rebuilt the kernel
  • [09:33:03] <woglinde> with build in g_ether
  • [09:33:09] <woglinde> or musb as module
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  • [09:33:18] <woglinde> maybee that would fix it too
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  • [09:37:01] <av500> if (NOT_I(i, <, num_buffers)) ... wtf?
  • [09:37:23] <woglinde> av500 where is this come from?
  • [09:37:24] <mru> what's the definition of NOT_I?
  • [09:37:32] <mru> woglinde: probably some TI code
  • [09:37:33] <mru> :-)
  • [09:37:38] <av500> mru: yes
  • [09:38:01] <woglinde> hm kernel modul
  • [09:38:01] <av500> http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=video/video-omx.git;a=blob;f=test/omx/video_playback/h264dec/src/v4l2_display.c;h=fb06774d56a2afe3428a2b04a45635ee84250c55;hb=fb06774d56a2afe3428a2b04a45635ee84250c55
  • [09:38:14] <av500> NOT_I, NOT_S? wtf
  • [09:39:00] <mru> gaaah, bytewise nv12 to 422 conversion
  • [09:39:20] <woglinde> *g* no author in the copyright
  • [09:39:25] <mru> there's a NOT_P too...
  • [09:39:37] <mru> woglinde: nobody wants to take the blame
  • [09:40:04] <av500> ah, here: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=video/video-omx.git;a=blob;f=test/omx/video_playback/h264dec/inc/debug_utils.h;h=9b10671b56f38d3e3f3ec535f484eb8e6b6fe5a9;hb=HEAD
  • [09:40:17] <woglinde> mru thats what I thought
  • [09:40:33] <koen> woglinde: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=76da91238b48fb7667b145b2520bf53891bcf9ca
  • [09:40:46] <mru> it's code like that which gives macros a bad name
  • [09:41:25] <av500> #define NOT_I(exp,cmp,val) NOT(exp,cmp,val,int,"%d")
  • [09:41:37] <woglinde> av500 yes
  • [09:42:09] <av500> mru: the TI OMX code I have assumes you have an Error: label in its malloc macros.... /sigh
  • [09:42:18] <woglinde> NOT(exp,cmp,val,type,fmt) (!((exp) cmp (val)))
  • [09:42:28] <woglinde> only the none debug variant
  • [09:42:44] <mru> and then there's the mysterious E_ symbol...
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  • [09:43:05] <av500> woglinde: I wonder why they do not do: #define ; ; printf("%s %d\m" __FILE__, __LINE__);
  • [09:43:20] <av500> mru: _E
  • [09:43:37] <av500> and all that for a few debug printfs...
  • [09:43:42] <mru> av500: they have both
  • [09:43:48] <av500> ah
  • [09:43:51] <mru> #define NOT(exp,cmp,val,type,fmt) E_ { ... } _E
  • [09:44:02] <mru> some kind of matching pairs methinks
  • [09:44:37] <woglinde> 81 #define IN __DEBUG_PRINT("in %s(" __FILE__ ":%d)", __FUNCTION__, __LINE__)
  • [09:44:44] <woglinde> there you go
  • [09:45:06] <av500> woglinde: thats only for entering the function, I want it for every line!
  • [09:45:13] <av500> how else can I tell where the SW is .....
  • [09:45:22] <woglinde> pffff
  • [09:45:26] <woglinde> debugger?
  • [09:46:09] <woglinde> but I wonder
  • [09:46:21] <mru> some nice macros: http://git.ffmpeg.org/?p=ffmpeg;a=blob;f=libavutil/intreadwrite.h
  • [09:46:23] <woglinde> the cam can do HD video's?
  • [09:46:52] <av500> cam?
  • [09:47:49] <woglinde> av500 or what else the v4linux is doing there?
  • [09:48:28] <av500> woglinde: output
  • [09:49:07] <woglinde> hm
  • [09:49:24] <woglinde> lunchtime
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  • [10:04:41] <Broken> hola guys
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  • [10:11:41] <jeremiah> Mmmmm, lunch
  • [10:13:17] <woglinde> re
  • [10:32:53] <jl_> av500: I get one error: starting DSP server 'cs,x64P' FAILED, status=[0x80008008]
  • [10:34:01] <av500> yes
  • [10:34:24] <av500> what dsplinkk module are you using?
  • [10:35:20] <woglinde> av500 remeber that he is using 2.6.29
  • [10:35:34] <jl_> dsplink_linux_1_65_00_02
  • [10:40:12] <jl_> av500: it is the message:http://pastebin.com/hmQkzbs5
  • [10:40:16] <jl_> av500: thank you
  • [10:42:25] <_koen_> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/~koen/uImage-2.6.32-r83%2Bgitra6bad4464f985fdd3bed72e1b82dcbfc004d7869-beagleboard.multi-config-cpuidle-gether.bin
  • [10:42:30] <_koen_> woglinde: there you go :)
  • [10:42:54] <_koen_> that should have gether builtin and cpuidle turned on
  • [10:45:47] <woglinde> cool
  • [10:45:59] <av500> jl_: yes, PROC_Create failed
  • [10:46:10] <av500> the error happened inside the dsplinkk kernel module
  • [10:46:13] <av500> whic has no traces
  • [10:46:28] <av500> unless you rebuild it with trace support
  • [10:47:00] <woglinde> I hope hitlin37 is around
  • [10:47:08] <av500> he will be again
  • [10:47:10] <woglinde> hitlin37 try the kernel koen posted
  • [10:47:35] * woglinde is now testing jtreg on omap3530 again
  • [10:47:38] <av500> jl_: where is your dsplinkk modules from?
  • [10:47:49] <jl_> av500: ok, I will rebuild it,
  • [10:47:57] <jl_> av500: I get it from TI
  • [10:50:40] <jl_> av500:Interrupt conflict problem?
  • [10:50:58] <jl_> https://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/f/354/p/57266/203442.aspx#203442
  • [10:51:05] <av500> jl_: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Enabling_trace_in_DSPLink#Enabling_kernel-level_prints
  • [10:52:31] <av500> jl_: why is this url relevant?
  • [10:53:02] <jl_> av500: my iommu : 28: 0 INTC omap-iommu.2
  • [10:53:43] <jl_> av500: will it conflict with dsplink?
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  • [11:02:02] <jl_> av500: sorry, I give you an error link
  • [11:02:08] <jl_> av500: http://e2e.ti.com/support/dsp/omap_applications_processors/f/42/p/36150/126286.aspx
  • [11:02:47] <jl_> av500: I am enabling trace, thank you
  • [11:05:31] <av500> jl_: any you have the camera module loaded?
  • [11:06:20] <jl_> av500: yes
  • [11:06:24] <av500> jl_: I am quite sure dsplink has way more ways to fail than the few that I have encountered, you are free to find new ones...
  • [11:07:20] <jl_> av500: I enable trace, then I will try it
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  • [11:16:09] <hitlin37> well im able to login through my x86 serial console,but on BB LCD there is a startup screen with mouse and keyboard not working
  • [11:16:23] <woglinde> hitlin37 so the kernel works for you?
  • [11:16:45] <hitlin37> this is after i tried with latest uImage given by koen
  • [11:16:49] <hitlin37> yes
  • [11:17:05] <hitlin37> thanks to koen n woglinde
  • [11:17:25] <woglinde> hitlin37 that might be another problem
  • [11:17:37] <hitlin37> is it so that mouse n keyboard are not getting enough power now
  • [11:17:42] <hitlin37> hmmm
  • [11:17:53] <woglinde> hm sont know
  • [11:18:00] <woglinde> didnt test such an setup yet
  • [11:18:09] <woglinde> try to use a powered usb hub
  • [11:18:53] <hitlin37> ya im using powered usb
  • [11:19:41] <woglinde> so it should not be a power problem
  • [11:19:57] <woglinde> try to find out if the evdev works correct
  • [11:20:56] <hitlin37> evdev ? where n no peripheral working now through usb hub ,only angstrom,not even my pendrive
  • [11:21:17] <woglinde> ah hm
  • [11:21:26] <woglinde> yes because g_ether is loaded
  • [11:21:27] <woglinde> hm hm
  • [11:21:42] <woglinde> thats now tricky
  • [11:21:42] <hitlin37> ok
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  • [11:21:48] <woglinde> sorry
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  • [11:22:00] <woglinde> seems you can either power it up
  • [11:22:18] <woglinde> and dont use mouse and keyboard or other usb stuff
  • [11:22:28] <woglinde> or you cannt power it up via usb
  • [11:22:53] <hitlin37> i have chosen unstable option when i was building the image.could this b affecting something
  • [11:22:56] <hitlin37> ok
  • [11:23:09] <woglinde> no
  • [11:23:11] <hitlin37> well atleast its working through serial
  • [11:23:14] <woglinde> its the musb
  • [11:23:23] <woglinde> serial works everytime
  • [11:23:26] <koen> even with g_ether loaded you can use it as OTG
  • [11:23:34] <woglinde> koen hm ah
  • [11:23:50] <koen> but since you're powering the beagle over it, you need a powered hub for the ehci port
  • [11:23:58] <woglinde> besides my beagle where serial dont works anymore
  • [11:24:19] <koen> and since cpuidle is turned on, you have to fight the serial port shutting down
  • [11:24:20] <hitlin37> im using powered hub
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  • [11:46:18] <kerute> hi
  • [11:47:02] <kerute> i installed angstrom on my BB and i just get 14 fps when watching a 720p video using omapfbplay
  • [11:47:50] <woglinde> kerute isnt that enough?
  • [11:47:57] <kerute> is it normal ? i also find just using X can be slow sometimes, are there a series of optimisations i can do ?
  • [11:48:34] <kerute> woglinde_, well it feels like the video has been slowed down
  • [11:48:57] <woglinde> try to use dsp stuff
  • [11:49:21] <woglinde> if I remeber correctly omapfblay is using only the arm proc
  • [11:49:28] <kerute> ah ok
  • [11:49:34] <woglinde> whith neon support
  • [11:49:36] <kerute> like mplayer with neon support ?
  • [11:49:39] <woglinde> but that isnt enough
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  • [11:55:41] <av500> kerute: what video?
  • [11:57:51] <_koen_> angstrom is right now pretty much as fast as you can get for omap3
  • [12:01:32] <hitlin37> if im reading a table with lots of values ,then how do i put the table into cache as i want to see if it has any effect on performance
  • [12:01:56] <woglinde> hitlin which cache?
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  • [12:02:46] <av500> $user which $specific_feature
  • [12:02:59] <av500> +?
  • [12:04:58] <hitlin37> whichever cache gives me better performance(L1 or L2),even im not sure which cache to go for
  • [12:05:43] <av500> hitlin37: the cache is enabled
  • [12:06:06] <woglinde> hitlin normaly you dont have any influence on the cache
  • [12:06:39] <av500> you can of course influence how it is used
  • [12:06:48] <av500> e.g. taking care of cache lines etc...
  • [12:06:57] <woglinde> sure but it depends on runtime either
  • [12:07:01] <av500> or using preload
  • [12:07:31] <hitlin37> i have go through details then
  • [12:07:32] <woglinde> if you have serval programs which flushes case
  • [12:07:39] <woglinde> ups cache
  • [12:07:53] <av500> hitlin37: going through details is always recommended :)
  • [12:09:32] <hitlin37> cache lockdown
  • [12:09:40] <hitlin37> comes into picture then
  • [12:10:47] <av500> and you are sure you need that?
  • [12:12:27] <hitlin37> not sure but since im reading a lot of value from tables repeatitvely i wanted to give my table a permanent place in cache
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  • [12:14:03] <hitlin37> on the bloack diagram of a8,it shows vfp/neon as a single unit.that means only works at a time
  • [12:16:26] <hitlin37> i know cache lockdown reduces cache for the whole system
  • [12:17:33] <woglinde> ping koen
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  • [12:18:22] <_koen_> woglinde: pong
  • [12:18:55] <woglinde> koen can you ack my java-backport stuff for oe-stable?
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  • [12:27:54] <koen> woglinde: feel free to add my acks to all 20 patches
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  • [12:28:03] <koen> I only tested if they applied, and they did
  • [12:29:01] <jkridner2> koen: thanks for building 'R'. I think the speed at what that was done should be a great example of how productive the platform and tools can be. Hope you get the "bounty".
  • [12:29:17] <_koen_> jkridner2: matt and I are working out the details now
  • [12:30:18] <av500> _koen_: working on "S" now?
  • [12:30:35] <_koen_> no
  • [12:30:40] <_koen_> on zorder, lord of dss
  • [12:30:47] <av500> all hail Zorder!
  • [12:31:07] <_koen_> and thanks to you I keep seeing sean connery in that swimming suit in mind mind every time that gets mentioned
  • [12:31:17] <av500> :)
  • [12:31:19] <woglinde> thanks koen
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  • [12:31:28] <_koen_> jkridner2: aren't you supposed to be on holiday?
  • [12:31:48] <av500> _koen_: she is shopping, he is on irc...
  • [12:32:54] <DaveDavenport> the perfect mariage
  • [12:32:57] <DaveDavenport> or how you write that
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  • [13:31:54] <kunguz> Hi there, I am new to beagleboard. I am having some trouble with RS232 connection. I can receive every character from beagleboard but I can't send anything to beagleboard
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  • [13:32:07] <kunguz> Basically I can not type anything after beagleboard booted
  • [13:32:12] <kunguz> Any ideas?
  • [13:32:26] <mru> your cable is probably miswired
  • [13:32:45] <kunguz> mru: The thing is I double checked but still not fine
  • [13:32:49] <kunguz> "error: reading boot sector"
  • [13:33:00] <kunguz> I have this error while boot loader boots
  • [13:33:09] <mru> but it does boot?
  • [13:33:09] <woglinde> lol
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  • [13:33:35] <kunguz> yes
  • [13:33:45] <kunguz> Let me paste it to somewhere
  • [13:33:47] <kunguz> hold on
  • [13:34:22] <kunguz> http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/attachment.cgi?id=5538
  • [13:34:44] <av500> thats the musb crash
  • [13:34:45] <mru> lol
  • [13:34:45] <kunguz> After the line reading boot sector, there comes an error
  • [13:35:04] <av500> kunguz: try to power the board from 5V, not from usb
  • [13:35:15] <kunguz> av500: I do so
  • [13:35:27] <av500> nothing attached on the otg prt?
  • [13:35:28] <av500> port
  • [13:35:33] <mru> kunguz: at the "Hit any key to stop autoboot" countdown, can you do that?
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  • [13:35:37] <kunguz> av500: ohh I see
  • [13:35:41] <mru> hit some key and get a u-boot prompt
  • [13:35:44] <kunguz> mru: I cant
  • [13:35:56] <mru> the you have the wrong cable
  • [13:36:03] <kunguz> av500: may I ask why I need to power it from 5V connector?
  • [13:36:15] <av500> because powering it from usb has some issues
  • [13:36:20] <mru> the "other" idc-to-dsub with a straight rs232 cable has that effect
  • [13:36:25] <av500> mru: yep
  • [13:36:40] <av500> so, misswired and mispowered
  • [13:36:40] <woglinde> kunguz try this kernel http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/~koen/uImage-2.6.32-r83%2Bgitra6bad4464f985fdd3bed72e1b82dcbfc004d7869-beagleboard.multi-config-cpuidle-gether.bin
  • [13:37:03] <kunguz> av500: Ok then I will try to power it with 5V directly
  • [13:37:11] <av500> that will get rid of the crash
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  • [13:37:28] <av500> now for serial, if you cant type but receive, your cable is wrong
  • [13:37:33] <kunguz> woglinde: is there an explanation also for putting this to flash card? can I do it with dd?
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  • [13:37:48] <woglinde> kunguz you can even mount and cp it
  • [13:37:50] <av500> kunguz: its a uimage file
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  • [13:37:58] <av500> replace your uimage file
  • [13:38:10] <kunguz> av500: how to replace uimage?
  • [13:38:26] <kunguz> I am sorry but I am a complete newbie :)
  • [13:38:31] <woglinde> unfornatly the HS-USB omap3 loading can only load 64k bootloaders
  • [13:39:35] <kunguz> Thank you very much guys, I will check the cable again to see if there is any error
  • [13:39:54] <mru> we're never wrong about this cable error
  • [13:40:04] <woglinde> +g*
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  • [13:58:56] <RobotGuy> G'Morning
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  • [14:04:53] <foobar> hey, I'm using this example,http://changetheworldwithyourpassion.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-share-network-with-beagleboard.html , to connect my beagleboard to my computer via a USB A-to-B cable but I am having trouble with step 3. In the beagleboard it is giving the error "SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable". I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice.
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  • [14:06:50] <RobotGuy> foobar: Is the net interface up? Do ifconfig -a which will show all the network interfaces and if they have an IP address assigned.
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  • [14:07:29] <RobotGuy> If the network interface is not configured, you will get errors like this.
  • [14:07:59] <RobotGuy> Also check your network cable to be sure you have a good cable and that it's connected securely at both ends.
  • [14:08:23] <woglinde> load g_ether
  • [14:09:00] <RobotGuy> Oh yeah, he isn't using wired net. Make sure the appropriate modules are loaded, like g_ether. Sorry about that.
  • [14:09:36] <RobotGuy> I believe you also need cdc_ether loaded.
  • [14:09:49] <RobotGuy> It's been awhile since I set this up. :)
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  • [14:13:17] <RobotGuy> Those instructions should include a step to have you check to be sure the right kernel modules are loaded and which ones you need.
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  • [14:13:56] <foobar> RobotGuy, http://pastebin.com/x0xuyYP3
  • [14:14:51] <RobotGuy> foobar: Your USB0 network device has not been configured.
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  • [14:15:26] <foobar> is there a tutorial that will show me how?
  • [14:15:40] <RobotGuy> It has an IPV6 address but no IPV4 address. I'm not sure if the IPV4 is needed, because I haven't worked with IPV6 before.
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  • [14:16:33] <RobotGuy> foobar: You can do "ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.1 (or whatever address you need to use) and see if you can connect then.
  • [14:16:50] <RobotGuy> Show me the output from lsmod. :)
  • [14:16:54] <foobar> On the beagleboard?
  • [14:17:19] <RobotGuy> Yes. You have to check both ends of the link - beagle and your PC.
  • [14:17:45] <RobotGuy> There should be a USB0 device on both ends and both have to be properly configured.
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  • [14:18:16] <foobar> http://pastebin.com/nBj6zYvs
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  • [14:18:57] <RobotGuy> Is that on beagle or your pc?
  • [14:19:09] <foobar> beagleboard
  • [14:20:21] <RobotGuy> What does it look like on the pc end?
  • [14:21:05] <RobotGuy> I think you also need cdc_ether on the pc side.
  • [14:21:29] <RobotGuy> I'll try connecting this up in a bit after I get my beagle back to running Angstrom.
  • [14:21:39] <RobotGuy> It's running Android 2.1 right now.
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  • [14:23:03] <foobar> http://pastebin.com/q6kL1LyL
  • [14:23:27] <foobar> it's there cdc_ether I mean
  • [14:24:03] <woglinde> ifconfig -a from both sides
  • [14:24:14] <foobar> When I type ifconfig the usb0 shows up now. How do I know what IP to set it to with that ifconfig usb0 <ip> command you gave?
  • [14:24:16] <RobotGuy> I see that, but I think you also need g_ether on the pc side. Is your USB0 configured on the pc side?
  • [14:24:31] <RobotGuy> foobar: Do ifconfig -a on the pc side
  • [14:24:39] <foobar> you mean in network connections?
  • [14:24:50] <RobotGuy> foobar: Windows or Linux?
  • [14:26:07] <RobotGuy> If you are using Windows on the PC side, I can't help further, sorry.
  • [14:26:30] <RobotGuy> I don't deal with Windows more than I absolutely have to.
  • [14:26:31] <foobar> Current ifconfig on both: http://pastebin.com/rr51VeRH
  • [14:26:37] <foobar> I'm using ubuntu 10.04
  • [14:26:58] <RobotGuy> foobar: Kubuntu 10.04 here, good. :)
  • [14:27:08] <RobotGuy> Is the USB0 device on the PC configured?
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  • [14:28:11] <foobar> I ran that ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.1 command on both the beagleboard and the host...
  • [14:28:13] <foobar> wait it worked
  • [14:28:28] <foobar> it just said "connection established" to beagleboard
  • [14:28:33] <RobotGuy> Good!
  • [14:28:53] <foobar> I also have that network connection added called beagleboard in case you're wondering. I set the IP in it to 192.168.1.1.
  • [14:28:55] <RobotGuy> Now you have to automate the setup of your net devices on each end.
  • [14:28:55] <foobar> -.
  • [14:29:44] <RobotGuy> Look at the file /etc/network/interfaces now. This is where you configure your network interfaces.
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  • [14:34:00] <foobar> RobotGuy, odd even though the host (ubuntu) said that it's connected. The beagleboard doesn't say it is.
  • [14:34:14] <foobar> I can't ping anything except 192.168.1.1
  • [14:34:33] <RobotGuy> foobar: There is still something not configured properly on the beagle then.
  • [14:34:50] <foobar> wait one second yeah
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  • [14:35:24] <woglinde> foobar you should be familar with networks a little bit
  • [14:36:30] <foobar> nah never used them before :\
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  • [14:37:52] <foobar> RobotGuy are both the usb0 IPs supposed to be the same on the host and bb?
  • [14:38:42] <woglinde> *sigh*
  • [14:40:40] <foobar> Also are the mac addresses in the "network connections" panel supposed to be the usb0. I have them set to the same mac address which is the usb0
  • [14:41:02] <woglinde> *sigh*
  • [14:41:26] <foobar> woglinde, Why? I thought you never got networking to work?
  • [14:41:38] <woglinde> o.O?
  • [14:41:42] <woglinde> I got it working
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  • [14:41:45] <foobar> oh
  • [14:42:01] <woglinde> try for now ifconfig usb0 192.168.11.1 up on the host
  • [14:42:13] <woglinde> and ifconfong usb0 192.168.11.2 up on the beagle
  • [14:42:20] <foobar> okay
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  • [14:44:26] <RobotGuy> foobar: The MAC address is a hardware address and it should be unique to the device/interface.
  • [14:44:52] <foobar> usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 3e:d0:91:20:87:c1 <-- I used that one
  • [14:45:00] <RobotGuy> foobar: I don't remember about the IPs on both ends.
  • [14:45:31] <woglinde> foobar is ifconfig to hard to write?
  • [14:45:43] <av500> idcontig?
  • [14:45:50] <woglinde> itchmonfo
  • [14:46:02] <mru> av500: yes, that's the cheat code that gives you networking
  • [14:47:04] <_koen_> iddqd
  • [14:47:21] <av500> idfka
  • [14:47:23] <av500> kfa
  • [14:47:37] <dm8tbr> idclip
  • [14:47:44] <RobotGuy> foobar: Did you get it to work?
  • [14:47:58] <foobar> woglinde, http://pastebin.com/GBRJWFJ7 <-- that's the current ifconfig
  • [14:48:19] <foobar> robotguy, don't I have to set up stuff in the network configuration?
  • [14:48:58] <woglinde> foobar now try ping 192.168.11.1 on the beagle
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  • [14:49:07] <RobotGuy> foobar: Yes, of course, if you want these connections to be made automatically.
  • [14:49:21] <RobotGuy> foobar: in /etc/network/interfaces
  • [14:49:49] <RobotGuy> foobar: How are your routes configured?
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  • [14:51:23] <foobar> I can ping the host from the BB
  • [14:51:38] <woglinde> foobar hui
  • [14:51:41] <RobotGuy> foobar: Good! Can you ping beagle from the host?
  • [14:51:52] <woglinde> robotguy should be
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  • [14:52:03] <foobar> yes
  • [14:52:05] <woglinde> unless the firewall is in the way
  • [14:52:30] <RobotGuy> foobar: Good! Can you ping an outside site from beagle?
  • [14:52:40] <woglinde> robotguy he cannt
  • [14:52:52] <woglinde> unless he made routing working on host
  • [14:52:56] <RobotGuy> foobar: Show me your routes.
  • [14:53:03] <woglinde> or masq usb2 with iptables
  • [14:53:09] <foobar> I get bad address if I try to ping google.com
  • [14:53:11] <foobar> how?
  • [14:53:28] <RobotGuy> foobar: Show me your routes.
  • [14:53:33] <foobar> What file?
  • [14:53:37] <Kmus> quick question - do USB Ethernet adapters have their own MAC addresses (in EEPROM)?
  • [14:53:47] <Kmus> just noticing this topic and wondering
  • [14:54:00] <RobotGuy> Kmus: Every net device should have a unique MAC address.
  • [14:54:36] <Kmus> I`ve plenty of embedded devices that require the OS to set the MAC as there's no EEPROM present, and I`m wondering if they are the same
  • [14:54:40] <woglinde> kmus because we arent in the 90's anymore you can set MAC address on most devices
  • [14:54:44] <RobotGuy> woglinde: We are going on step at a time here.
  • [14:55:17] <foobar> So how do I get the list of routes?
  • [14:55:17] <woglinde> robotguy I am not explain how routing works or the briding stuff works
  • [14:55:31] <Kmus> woglinde - go on, it should only take 5 hours ;)
  • [14:55:52] <RobotGuy> woglinde: I don't expect you to, but I am going to help foobar if I can regardless what is required.
  • [14:57:09] <koen> mru, av500: attending ELC/E ?
  • [14:57:27] <mru> is that the thing in cambridge?
  • [14:57:30] <av500> remeber the beast invite!
  • [14:57:32] <mru> what were the dates again?
  • [14:57:32] <av500> +m
  • [14:57:33] <foobar> http://pastebin.com/MCquh06T <- RobotGuy?
  • [14:57:51] <av500> if you invite the beast, it comes with 2 operators :)
  • [14:57:55] <koen> "October 27 & 28 , 2010 in Cambridge, UK"
  • [14:57:56] <woglinde> mrvu yes cambridge
  • [14:58:15] <av500> operators needs constant supply of free drinks
  • [14:58:29] <foobar> RobotGuy, that's on the beagleboard by the way.
  • [14:58:52] <koen> I'm presenting about OE there
  • [14:59:04] <koen> and TI is trying to get some demos in (like the beast)
  • [14:59:08] <av500> see
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  • [15:00:27] <RobotfoGuy> foobar: I think you still need a host route to get packets flowing in each direction.
  • [15:01:23] <foobar> yeah I see that in the route man pages
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  • [15:01:32] <foobar> I mean the flag for adding a new route
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  • [15:04:00] <RobotfoGuy> foobar: I think you'd need a -host when adding a host route, but this is the area I do not fully understand.
  • [15:06:17] <mru> imo the iproute2 tools are much easier to use than ifconfig
  • [15:06:41] <foobar> I wonder why woglinde is staying so secretive. I was hoping someone here that's done it before would just tell me. I'm tempted to just download the gcc dev packages and drag them to the SD card and install them and such.
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  • [15:07:49] <RobotfoGuy> foobar: I don't know. I help people as best I can regardless of what it might take.
  • [15:08:08] <foobar> yes I know. Thank you.
  • [15:08:15] <RobotfoGuy> That's just me though. :)
  • [15:08:17] <mru> RobotfoGuy: such as wild guessing?
  • [15:08:37] <RobotfoGuy> mru: I state where I am not sure or don't know.
  • [15:08:38] <foobar> anything works really. I was just trying random tutorials myself
  • [15:08:59] <RobotfoGuy> mru: If you can help better, please do so.
  • [15:09:16] <mru> sorry, I haven't followed the discussion
  • [15:09:36] <RobotfoGuy> mru: Then why are you nagging at me for trying to help?
  • [15:09:36] <foobar> Do you have BB networking working? Do you remember the steps?
  • [15:09:49] <mru> RobotfoGuy: did I? that wasn't my intention
  • [15:09:55] <mru> I do apologise
  • [15:10:02] <RobotfoGuy> mru: OK. :)
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  • [15:10:26] <mru> the problem with all these tutorials is that they only ever cover one specific scenario
  • [15:10:40] <mru> rarely the exact one you happen to have
  • [15:10:46] <woglinde> mru dont forget missleading blog entries
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  • [15:10:51] <RobotfoGuy> mru: Yes, indeed, and many don't include important steps or details a person needs to know.
  • [15:10:54] <mru> woglinde: that too
  • [15:11:15] <mru> there really is no substitute for understanding what's going on
  • [15:11:30] <mru> in this case, learning how IP networks work would be a starting point
  • [15:11:38] <woglinde> mru jupp
  • [15:11:42] <RobotfoGuy> I've started to try to make some stuff more clear, as I get things setup myself.
  • [15:11:48] <woglinde> that was what I am trying to said
  • [15:11:49] <mru> when the terms have meaning, it's easier to figure out how to apply them
  • [15:12:21] <RobotfoGuy> mru: Yes, indeed, but information is badly fragmented on the net and everything for a given topic needs to be in one place.
  • [15:12:47] <RobotfoGuy> I've had to go to as many as 5 or 6 different sources to get all the info I need to do something.
  • [15:12:49] <woglinde> hm in former years there were books
  • [15:13:07] <foobar> woglinde, I take it took a lot of steps to get the networking working correctly and you don't remember them?
  • [15:13:11] <RobotfoGuy> woglinde: Technical books can be quite expensive.
  • [15:13:39] <mru> I spent over 4 years in uni and read many books...
  • [15:13:48] <mru> and countless online manuals
  • [15:14:01] <RobotfoGuy> mru: Not everyone has a degree in a technical subject.
  • [15:14:06] <woglinde> mru and many nights trying to figure out whats wrong
  • [15:14:13] <mru> woglinde: that too
  • [15:14:26] <woglinde> foobar the steps?
  • [15:14:26] <mru> there's also no substitute for solving the problem yourself
  • [15:14:31] <woglinde> install g_ether on beagle
  • [15:14:32] <mru> even if it takes you all night the first time
  • [15:14:36] <woglinde> insert usb-cable
  • [15:14:44] <woglinde> ifconfig up on host
  • [15:14:48] <woglinde> ifconfig up on beagle
  • [15:14:57] <woglinde> set up routes via ip or route
  • [15:15:03] <foobar> that last part
  • [15:15:04] <RobotfoGuy> In my opinion, those who know, should pass their knowledge on to others who want to learn. It should not be confined to colleges and universities.
  • [15:15:16] <mru> sure
  • [15:15:20] <woglinde> after ward editing to /etc/network/interfaces on both sides
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  • [15:15:33] <woglinde> so I can forget about ifconfig
  • [15:15:34] <mru> but conveying 4 years of learning in 15 minutes on irc is, well... hard
  • [15:15:41] <foobar> woglinde, Do you remember how to set up route via ip or route?
  • [15:15:57] <woglinde> sure
  • [15:16:11] <RobotfoGuy> mru: No, just help with areas that help is needed when it is needed.
  • [15:16:12] <woglinde> I learned and understand who ip networks worked
  • [15:16:13] <foobar> Well this is just a senior project. The beagleboard was supposed to be a small step. (I'm a CS person which doesn't excuse my ignorance for not knowing much networking)
  • [15:16:20] <mru> "ip route help" tells how to do it
  • [15:16:42] <RobotfoGuy> mru: Sometimes that help is not very helpful. :)
  • [15:16:43] <woglinde> whats CS?
  • [15:17:01] <foobar> mru, well I'm reading the man pages with my friend, but we're not sure what we're supposed to do. Are we trying to route the beagleboard to the etho0 on the host?
  • [15:17:13] <woglinde> mru reminds other people paying 5k for tcp/ip courses
  • [15:17:23] <mru> you don't need to mess with routes
  • [15:17:28] <av500> woglinde: don't ask :)
  • [15:17:43] <woglinde> and we help
  • [15:17:46] <woglinde> uh
  • [15:17:50] <woglinde> not even for a beer
  • [15:17:58] <foobar> woglinde, in the US and other places it's known as Computer Science. It's most theorhetical science about computers with programming/software development.
  • [15:18:06] <mru> on host: ip addr add 192.168.54.1/24 dev usb0
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  • [15:18:19] <woglinde> foobar guess I study this too
  • [15:18:21] <mru> on beagle: ip addr add 192.168.54.1/24 dev usb0
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  • [15:18:51] <mru> that should let the beagle and the pc talk
  • [15:18:52] <woglinde> and we have a course which is about networking even layer2 which each student has to take
  • [15:19:03] <foobar> mru, my host is 192.168.11.1 and my beagle is 192.168.11.2 can I just switch those out?
  • [15:19:10] <av500> woglinde: layer1 or you know nothing! :)
  • [15:19:24] <mru> foobar: yeah sure
  • [15:19:29] <mru> those numbers were just examples
  • [15:19:29] <woglinde> av500 bahahahaha
  • [15:19:36] <foobar> woglinde, well I'm versed in network programming, but yeah networking is more of an elective sadly. I'll probably take one though later.
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  • [15:20:21] <woglinde> o.O
  • [15:20:35] <woglinde> networking programming without understanding routing?
  • [15:20:36] <foobar> mru, were those IPs supposed to be different or the same in your examples?
  • [15:20:38] <woglinde> what the hell
  • [15:20:46] <mru> foobar: they must be different
  • [15:21:01] <whittenburg> Hi all, I've got an issue-- I think I'm not getting ethernet interrupts. I still have network, but I get drops, and ping response times are all over the place.
  • [15:21:03] <foobar> mru, well is one supposed to point to the other?
  • [15:21:14] <mru> there's no pointing
  • [15:21:20] <woglinde> whittenburg pull the cable
  • [15:21:25] <mru> to the PC, the beagle is just another host on the net
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  • [15:21:31] <mru> and conversely
  • [15:21:38] <whittenburg> looking at /proc/interrupts the eth0 entry is sitting at 100000.
  • [15:22:00] <woglinde> whittenburg which device you are talking about?
  • [15:22:56] <whittenburg> Its a beagle, but with the PSP kernel.
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  • [15:23:18] <woglinde> normaly the beagle dont have eth0
  • [15:23:32] <woglinde> or you are talking about xm?
  • [15:23:40] <foobar> mru, http://pastebin.com/D9RNbmhz
  • [15:24:17] <mru> foobar: that means the address is already configured
  • [15:24:22] <whittenburg> no, sorry, it's overo.
  • [15:24:26] <mru> what does "ip addr list" say?
  • [15:24:30] <mru> on both sdies
  • [15:24:31] <mru> sides
  • [15:24:47] <woglinde> mru we set the ip's already with ifconfig
  • [15:25:04] <mru> woglinde: so what's the problem then?
  • [15:25:22] <mru> foobar: can you ping in both directions?
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  • [15:25:30] <foobar> mru, http://pastebin.com/89NPn7LG
  • [15:25:33] <foobar> mru_ yes
  • [15:26:06] <woglinde> mru he needs to set static routes or masq the usb0 interface on the host to get with beagle into internetz
  • [15:26:24] <mru> oh, that's a different matter
  • [15:26:33] <mru> foobar: first, turn on IP forwarding on the host
  • [15:26:33] <woglinde> yes
  • [15:27:11] <mru> echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
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  • [15:27:31] <jkridner2> koen: what is x-load-usb?
  • [15:27:51] <foobar> mru, I think I turned that on 'echo 1 >> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' ?
  • [15:28:08] <mru> foobar: cat the file and make sure
  • [15:28:10] <woglinde> jkridner2 sounds something I could use
  • [15:28:11] <koen> jkridner2: no idea
  • [15:28:19] <woglinde> for more borken serial console
  • [15:28:24] <koen> jkridner2: I would guess it's an xload you can upload over usb
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  • [15:28:53] <woglinde> koen rather it sounds a x-load which can load u-boot via usb
  • [15:29:16] <foobar> mru, yep it echo'ed back 1
  • [15:29:18] <woglinde> you can upload all stuff with psub
  • [15:29:42] <woglinde> but only 64k
  • [15:29:45] <jkridner2> seems OE builds it, whatever it is. I'm not sure if I need to distribute it.
  • [15:29:57] <mru> foobar: then on beagle: ip route add default via 192.168.11.1
  • [15:30:00] <woglinde> u-boot with usb-serial is about 160k :(
  • [15:30:18] <woglinde> jkridner2 do you have the source somewhere?
  • [15:32:41] <foobar> mru, http://pastebin.com/hgnw3pzU it did something :)
  • [15:33:15] <mru> now try ping 8.8.8.8
  • [15:33:25] <mru> or whatever IP address out there
  • [15:33:52] <foobar> mru, o_O it worked
  • [15:34:10] <foobar> I can ping google.com too
  • [15:34:14] <mru> foobar: now do yourself a favour and try to understand what you just did
  • [15:34:37] <foobar> mru, sounds like a good idea, but for the time being you're a god :)
  • [15:34:39] <woglinde> mru ugh without setting up resolv.conf?
  • [15:34:59] <woglinde> now I am really impressed
  • [15:35:00] <woglinde> *g*
  • [15:35:16] <mru> woglinde: I was expecting to go through that next
  • [15:35:29] <mru> must be already set up with some working server
  • [15:35:31] <woglinde> foobar: get familiar with if-up
  • [15:35:40] <woglinde> and setup /etc/network/interfaces
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  • [15:35:56] <woglinde> so you can forget about all the commands
  • [15:35:56] <RobotfoGuy> Dang, I am out of USB ports on my laptop.
  • [15:36:00] <foobar> woglinde, can't that be configured in the network connection interface?
  • [15:36:14] <foobar> or are the two separate?
  • [15:36:30] <woglinde> foobar what host distribution you are using?
  • [15:36:38] <RobotfoGuy> foobar: When you understand what you've done, you will remember it better.
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  • [15:37:52] <foobar> woglinde, ubuntu
  • [15:38:49] <woglinde> foobar haha you could even use networkmanager to setup the stuff on the hostside
  • [15:39:28] <foobar> woglinde, well angstrom has everything that ubuntu has basically?
  • [15:39:44] <woglinde> no its diffrent
  • [15:40:05] <woglinde> ubuntu is mostly using networkmanager
  • [15:40:21] <woglinde> but you can switch to if-up easily
  • [15:40:39] <woglinde> thats the same angstroem uses with busybox
  • [15:43:17] <woglinde> lol
  • [15:43:19] <woglinde> http://blog.imperva.com/2010/07/gnarley-new-phishing-kit.html
  • [15:43:30] <foobar> Thanks for your guys help. I'll be doing the interfaces stuff next time
  • [15:43:53] <woglinde> foobar there are lot of examples
  • [15:44:08] <woglinde> for usb with automatic configuring
  • [15:44:53] <woglinde> foobar and you should find out how to set the echo command with the init-scripts
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  • [15:53:42] <waddler> hi, digikey gave shipdate estimate of 3/26/2011 for xM, is that realistic?
  • [15:53:57] <_koen_> read the mailinglist
  • [15:54:08] <_koen_> or go to beagleboard.org and click 'buy'
  • [15:54:13] <_koen_> that also has sane info
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  • [15:59:55] <waddler> ok this cleared it up http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/4ec30af217d5e32b (would be nice to have it linked from the bb-xm page)
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  • [16:06:10] <jkridner2> waddler: see updated page: http://beagleboard.org/buyxm
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  • [16:08:43] <waddler> jkridner2 :)
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  • [16:12:29] <Kmus> Anyone know how the LAN on the XM works (Eth over SPI, USB Eth?, memory mapped?)
  • [16:12:38] <mru> usb eth
  • [16:12:44] <mru> smsc lan9514 chip
  • [16:12:50] <Kmus> Cheers..
  • [16:13:18] <Kmus> Ah.. hub + eth controller.. nice
  • [16:14:23] <mru> yes, you get 4 usb ports too
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  • [16:44:11] <emeb> gm
  • [16:44:21] <mru> morning emeb
  • [16:44:30] <emeb> gm mru. still in DE?
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  • [16:59:06] <mru> still in, now rainy, .de
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  • [17:13:55] <mpoirier> I need to get a hand on the factory install "2009.11-rc1-00601-g3aa4b51" uboot image - can anyone tell me what git tree it is from ?
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  • [17:19:04] <jayabharath> mpoirier: It should be from the validation git trees at http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/
  • [17:19:11] <koen> if only
  • [17:19:22] <koen> that was before there was a sensible process
  • [17:19:49] <emeb> hooray! we now have a sensible process!
  • [17:19:59] <jayabharath> Ah... cool - I am all for sensible
  • [17:20:10] <av500> emeb: is it professional?
  • [17:20:25] <emeb> av500: that was going to be my next question.
  • [17:22:27] <jayabharath> and is there any way to track down the source tree that went in to build "2009.11-rc1-00601-g3aa4b51" uboot - tag, branch or something
  • [17:23:26] <koen> jayabharath: I think gerald said something like "I have no idea what source was used for that"
  • [17:23:51] <av500> koen: come on, you have "g3aa4b51", no many git commits match that :)
  • [17:24:48] <mpoirier> av500: thanks, I'll start digging.
  • [17:25:21] <koen> av500: and looks like 601 commits after that
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  • [17:32:08] <jayabharath> koen: thanks... its good to know it tough to find... saves a lot of effort
  • [17:32:36] <koen> right now everything is built from OE
  • [17:32:43] <koen> so no weird surprises
  • [17:33:19] <emeb> koen: by 'right now' you mean the stuff that will ship w/ xM?
  • [17:33:28] <koen> yes
  • [17:33:29] <koen> and C5
  • [17:33:39] <emeb> ooh - C5?
  • [17:33:39] <jayabharath> koen: OE.. what's OE... :) just kidding
  • [17:33:50] <koen> emeb: C4 with new MLO and uboot in nand
  • [17:33:56] <koen> no hw changes
  • [17:34:06] <emeb> ah - but still a step forward.
  • [17:34:29] <koen> yes, since a C5 will support your fpga out of the box :)
  • [17:34:58] <koen> so now people know what the validation mails jkridner2 is sending to the ml are about
  • [17:35:08] <emeb> neat!
  • [17:35:38] <koen> to make things more transparent
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  • [17:36:26] <emeb> good thing
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  • [17:38:14] * emeb wonders what would happen if C5 shipped with a minimal kernel + rootfs
  • [17:39:06] <emeb> (in NAND) - something to get the newbs over the 1st hump...
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  • [17:39:41] <mru> that would only make th second hump bigger
  • [17:39:47] <mru> the amount of hump is constant
  • [17:40:07] <emeb> yeah - unintended consequences...
  • [17:40:32] <koen> I've been wanting something like that for ages
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  • [17:40:42] <koen> but jkridner2 didn't want to favour one distro
  • [17:40:54] <emeb> but xM....
  • [17:40:58] <koen> but xM will ship with an uSD with something preinstalled
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  • [17:41:48] <emeb> http://www.bartleby.com/100/420.47.html
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  • [17:42:27] <koen> http://www.27bslash6.com/sad.html
  • [17:43:46] * emeb can't see that page for some reason
  • [17:44:05] <mru> try http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/ instead
  • [17:44:27] <emeb> :) - been there
  • [17:44:57] <emeb> It's interesting to think of what sort of stuff one would put into a NAND rootfs
  • [17:45:21] <mru> not a lot
  • [17:45:42] <emeb> It would be tiny, but you could put in some demo stuff to show off the BB
  • [17:45:53] <b7500af1> i think the amount of difficulty of the 'first hump' makes a pretty big difference on the number of people willing to use the product.
  • [17:46:21] <emeb> along with sufficient utilities to format an SD and get something larger going.
  • [17:46:23] <b7500af1> so even if it makes the later humps larger.. to make it more accessible seems like the better choice.
  • [17:46:56] <emeb> Make it default to boot from SD if present & fall back to NAND if not.
  • [17:47:22] <koen> xload already does that
  • [17:47:24] <emeb> b7500af1: agree
  • [17:47:47] <emeb> koen: yep
  • [17:48:44] <emeb> make banners on serial & video to clearly differentiate between SD & NAND
  • [17:48:54] <emeb> to help avoid confusion
  • [17:49:05] <emeb> (can't ever eliminate it of course)
  • [17:49:23] <koen> over the years I have noticed:
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  • [17:49:31] <koen> 1) people don't ever read instructions
  • [17:49:47] <koen> 2) people don't ever follow instructions to the letter, only parts of it
  • [17:50:04] <koen> 3) people will tell lies about 1) and 2)
  • [17:50:22] <mru> and then they come here demanding professional answers
  • [17:50:57] <emeb> and keep lying about 1) & 2) until you ask very pointed questions. Then grudgingly admit what they did.
  • [17:51:06] <emeb> and blame you for having a bad attitude.
  • [17:53:01] <emeb> the BB issue that makes me roll eyes the most:
  • [17:53:12] <koen> When I did my geoinformatics minor at ITC I had to repeatedly say "you already asked that question 2 minutes ago" during interviews with the teachers
  • [17:53:30] <emeb> get confused about boot process so erase NAND. !!Why!!??
  • [17:53:34] <koen> turns out that their foreign students will just nod and say yes to anything you ask
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  • [17:55:07] <emeb> I wonder if that's a language comprehension thing, or a culture of subservience/diffidence thing.
  • [17:59:20] <koen> cultural
  • [17:59:32] <koen> you don't want to insult the teacher by not knowing the answer
  • [17:59:40] <koen> since that would mean he isn't teaching
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  • [18:00:58] <woglinde> jo
  • [18:01:15] <emeb> ho
  • [18:03:13] <emeb> DaveDavenport: have you tried the mpd client 'minion'?
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  • [18:10:07] <DaveDavenport> hmm
  • [18:10:24] <DaveDavenport> the fireflip thing?
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  • [18:14:36] <koen> av500: when my 5g says "pausing" does it mean "suspending"?
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  • [18:19:17] <av500> hmm
  • [18:19:51] <av500> mine says "suspending..", where do you see that?
  • [18:20:13] <emeb> DaveDavenport: yeah - it's a firefox plugin. kinda cute, but no match for gmpc.
  • [18:22:53] <koen> av500: dutch translation
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  • [18:23:01] <koen> it says "pauzeren"
  • [18:23:40] <av500> sec
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  • [18:24:07] <av500> koen: yes
  • [18:24:16] <av500> "Pauzeren..."
  • [18:24:30] <av500> aka "Suspending..."
  • [18:25:10] <koen> I think you shouldn't pay 6 year olds in vietnam to do your translations ;)
  • [18:25:27] <av500> 6y old? way to expensive
  • [18:25:28] <DaveDavenport> I prefer south african
  • [18:25:35] <DaveDavenport> they are cheaper.
  • [18:26:15] <koen> they have cheap audio translations there
  • [18:26:22] <koen> bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt
  • [18:27:32] <av500> koen: most likely done by dutch distributor or so
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  • [18:28:06] <koen> av500: I run pretty much everything in english
  • [18:28:21] <koen> the open source translations make me cringe
  • [18:30:47] <av500> same here
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  • [18:33:34] <koen> although osx has pretty good translations
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  • [18:34:26] <koen> "hey, then can you tell me how do I learn linux(fastest that I can
  • [18:34:27] <koen> program bb)"
  • [18:34:42] <koen> so what is the fastest linux to program bb?
  • [18:35:03] <woglinde> koen someone from india?
  • [18:35:33] <koen> judging from the name, yes
  • [18:35:43] <av500> woglinde: .cn would be: "send me the codes!"
  • [18:35:47] <ds2> brain transplant.
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  • [18:36:30] <koen> _chase_: ehm, http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=d03df0e2f7434bf44c64b40d05e265a8a2d91db8
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  • [18:39:50] <koen> av500: .ca would be "what's this all aboot?" ?
  • [18:40:36] <av500> koen: you signed it off!
  • [18:42:07] <koen> yes, signing on wasn't an option
  • [18:42:09] <mru> aboot, that's the bootloader for alphalinux
  • [18:42:38] * mru had fun hacking at that back in the day
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  • [18:43:19] <_chase_> koen: I know. I just wanted it on the list.
  • [18:43:41] <woglinde> ugh why is glib configure now failing
  • [18:43:54] <av500> out of strcpy?
  • [18:43:59] <av500> err, strcmp
  • [18:44:01] <woglinde> hm now
  • [18:44:03] <_chase_> Thanks for applying it though. I was going to reply back to my post and say that it was already applied but I don't get the posts as individual mails (I do now though).
  • [18:44:09] <woglinde> some crosscompile error check
  • [18:44:34] <woglinde> hm whats the glib-version for angstroem
  • [18:45:54] <koen> 2.22.somethign
  • [18:46:35] <woglinde> hm glib-2.0-2.24.1-r0
  • [18:47:15] <koen> ah, yes
  • [18:47:23] <koen> bitbake -s will tell you
  • [18:47:39] <woglinde> checking for growing stack pointer... configure: error: in `/devel/arm/oetmp-ang/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-uclibceabi/glib-2.0-2.24.1-r0/glib-2.24.1':
  • [18:47:42] <woglinde> | configure: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling
  • [18:47:44] <woglinde> | See `config.log' for more details.
  • [18:47:49] <mru> oh dear
  • [18:48:03] <woglinde> I saw and fixed this often enough
  • [18:48:07] <mru> has anyone here even _heard of_ a system with upwards growing stack?
  • [18:48:27] <mru> a simple export ac_cv_blah_blah=no should fix it
  • [18:48:42] <woglinde> sure
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  • [18:48:57] <woglinde> let's see why the oe site.config failed
  • [18:49:09] <mru> finding the right value can take some digging in configure scripts
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  • [18:49:29] <mru> and they say you never need to look at those...
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  • [18:49:33] <mru> liars!
  • [18:49:49] <woglinde> mru no no
  • [18:49:57] <woglinde> its because uclibc
  • [18:50:07] <woglinde> and the triplet doesnt match or something
  • [18:50:15] <mru> that has nothing to do with uclibc
  • [18:50:25] <mru> and it's not just that test
  • [18:50:44] <mru> I have piles of overrides in my cross-build wrappers
  • [18:50:47] <woglinde> site/mips-linux-uclibc:glib_cv_stack_grows=${glib_cv_stack_grows=no}
  • [18:51:15] <mru> hmm
  • [18:51:30] <woglinde> hm as I thought
  • [18:51:43] <woglinde> no entries in site/arm-linux-uclibc
  • [18:52:31] * woglinde wonders why it worked before
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  • [18:55:13] <woglinde> h,
  • [18:55:15] <woglinde> hm
  • [18:55:17] <woglinde> loading site script /devel/arm/git/openembedded/site/endian-little
  • [18:55:25] <woglinde> thats sounds not okay
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  • [19:04:17] <woglinde> koen I found it
  • [19:04:39] <woglinde> look at targetinfo in siteinfo.bbclass
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  • [22:08:51] <emeb> ds2: ping
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  • [23:10:01] <vielster> I've tried my luck with google to no avail, so I thought I'd bug you guys.
  • [23:10:57] <vielster> Is anyone aware of whether anyone has already ported the uC/OS-II kernel to the beagleboard
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  • [23:13:00] <vielster> second, sort of related question. Can uboot start up a standalone application, and if so, are there any guidelines on doing so (ie memory mapping, registers to reset, etc)
  • [23:14:21] <mru> hmm, ucos...
  • [23:14:27] <mru> shouldn't be too hard
  • [23:14:31] <mru> it's tiny
  • [23:14:43] <mru> if you let u-boot do the setup
  • [23:14:50] <vielster> right...that was the plan
  • [23:15:18] <vielster> that way I don't have to write custom startup assembler
  • [23:15:34] <mru> most of it should work as is
  • [23:15:40] <mru> it already supports arm in general
  • [23:15:54] <mru> doesn't support vfp/neon though
  • [23:16:10] <vielster> actually does support vfp, not neon
  • [23:16:24] <mru> oh, must have been added since I saw it last
  • [23:16:31] <vielster> they have hooks in some of their ports for enabling vfp
  • [23:16:31] <mru> which was probably some old version too
  • [23:16:52] <mru> it's not like basic vfp support is hard
  • [23:19:08] <vielster> I don't believe all of the exception handling is supported in the port, just basically enabling and disabling the vfp unit.
  • [23:19:21] <mru> that's what I meant
  • [23:19:24] <vielster> Any special exception handling would need to be implemented seperately
  • [23:19:35] <vielster> but for my purposes...not sure that I care
  • [23:19:54] <vielster> oh...and it saves the vfp regs in context switches
  • [23:19:56] <ds2> emeb: pong
  • [23:20:07] <mru> you have to me sure never to trigger one of those exceptions
  • [23:20:28] <mru> which you can do by disabling them in the control register
  • [23:20:28] <vielster> well..I'll have to look in the ARM documentation, but usually you can just turn them off
  • [23:20:32] <emeb> ds2: pm ok?
  • [23:20:38] <ds2> emeb: sure
  • [23:20:46] <vielster> haha...we're deffinitely on the same pagfe
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