• [00:02:14] <ghoti> woot. 28-pin headers, $0.35 each. I bought two. It's all I could find in the bin. :)
  • [00:02:40] <raster> merp
  • [00:02:53] <mru> ghoti: you can always get longer ones and cut them
  • [00:03:12] <ghoti> Ya, well, I'd get longer ones from the same place...
  • [00:03:37] <ghoti> And I only need one right now anyway. Only have one beagleboard to attach it to.
  • [00:04:50] <ghoti> Unfortunately, they were all out of 22 microfarad capacitors. The box was empty.
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  • [00:16:46] <emeb> could try nearby values - nothing magic about 22uf
  • [00:19:52] <ghoti> okay, well, I didn't know that... How close is "nearby"?
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  • [00:20:19] <s4wrxttcs> I've been following this guide for GPIO manipulation in userspace
  • [00:20:25] <s4wrxttcs> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/msg/c623a16637625685?hl=en
  • [00:20:47] <s4wrxttcs> but I don't know if it makes much sense for what I'm doing
  • [00:20:48] <s4wrxttcs> since as far as I can tell that's really just meant for LED's and buttons
  • [00:21:04] <s4wrxttcs> and not control I/O
  • [00:21:15] <s4wrxttcs> albiet the control I/O I have won't be fast
  • [00:21:43] <s4wrxttcs> albiet = albeit
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  • [00:22:39] <ghoti> And since I'm as ignorant of electronics as I am of linux kernel innards, how would I go about finding or building a 5V power supply that would use a 6VDC car battery as its input?
  • [00:23:21] <ghoti> I'm not even sure what to google for... I can translate a circuit diagram into a board layout and solder components, but I don't know how to *design* the circuit.
  • [00:24:16] <mru> a 3-terminal regulator should be good enough
  • [00:25:40] <ghoti> And just googling that, I find schematics. Awesome. Thanks! :)
  • [00:25:44] <mru> something like an LM317
  • [00:25:50] <ghoti> That was the first link I found.
  • [00:26:20] <mru> it's one of those part numbers you don't easily forget
  • [00:26:31] <mru> like 2N2222
  • [00:26:46] <mru> or the 555
  • [00:26:50] <s4wrxttcs> * refuses to remember anything other then 555
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  • [00:26:53] <s4wrxttcs> dang it
  • [00:26:56] <s4wrxttcs> you beat me
  • [00:27:07] <mru> and the trusty old 7404
  • [00:27:14] <ghoti> I even remember the 555.
  • [00:27:37] <ghoti> Though, I don't remember the difference between NPN and PNP.
  • [00:27:47] <mru> one is more P, the other more N
  • [00:27:56] <ghoti> Ahhhhh...
  • [00:28:36] <ghoti> http://www.national.com/mpf/LM/LM317.html has a schematic... Is it safe to assume that resistors labelled "5k" and "240" are 5kOhm and 240 Ohm?
  • [00:28:57] <mru> of course
  • [00:29:07] <ghoti> just checking. :)
  • [00:29:27] <ghoti> This will be the first time I've assembled electronic components in about 25 years.
  • [00:29:42] <ghoti> My soldering gun is about that old, too.
  • [00:30:04] <ghoti> Getting laid off ROCKS. I have time for projects!
  • [00:30:19] <mru> you probably won't find a 5k resistor though
  • [00:30:29] <ghoti> that's supposted to be a pot, I think.
  • [00:30:30] <mru> 4.7k and 5.1k are far more common
  • [00:30:56] <ghoti> it's a resistor symbol with a slash through it. That's what makes it an "adjustable" regulator.
  • [00:31:08] <mru> that's just an example diagram
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  • [00:31:23] <ghoti> It won't work?
  • [00:31:25] <mru> there's a formula somewhere for the output voltage
  • [00:31:32] <mru> it'll work of course
  • [00:31:41] <mru> but you don't have to stick to it exactly
  • [00:32:49] <ghoti> Ah, well, formulas are great, but I'll need some edumucation to know how to apply it.
  • [00:33:17] * ghoti sticks his tongue out and rolls his eyes in opposite directions
  • [00:34:48] <mru> read the data sheet
  • [00:35:00] <ghoti> Hmm. Any idea how low a voltage might come out of a 6V lead-acid battery? Should I be considering a transformer before the regulator?
  • [00:35:03] <ghoti> okay, I'll do that.
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  • [00:36:34] <mru> http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-16a.htm
  • [00:36:41] <mru> something on lead-acid batteries
  • [00:36:50] <ghoti> Thanks
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  • [00:37:15] <mru> first google hit
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  • [01:21:32] <Jefro> hi all - anyone around who has gotten android running? I'm having trouble compiling for the beagleboard (embinux)
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  • [02:22:15] <vj> guys so what details do I have to enter in a IRC client
  • [02:22:19] <vj> I am a newbie
  • [02:22:36] <vj> The web-based client seems to time out
  • [02:23:38] <vj> cwillu: what details do I have to enter in a IRC client
  • [02:23:59] <cwillu> vj, I've only rarely used a web based client
  • [02:24:03] <cwillu> what os are you on?
  • [02:24:20] <vj> right now just wantto quickly try out a client on Windows
  • [02:24:23] <cwillu> or are you asking what details you need for a normal desktop client?
  • [02:24:30] <vj> yes yesy
  • [02:24:45] <vj> I entered Beagleboard.org
  • [02:24:46] <cwillu> you want to connect to freenode, and then /join #beagle; username can be basically anything
  • [02:24:58] <vj> hmmm.....
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  • [02:25:55] <cwillu> chat.freenode.net is the full hostname to connect to
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  • [02:26:20] <cwillu> Dixit == vj?
  • [02:26:37] <cwillu> yep
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  • [02:27:33] <vj> Aaah
  • [02:27:35] <vj> :)
  • [02:27:39] <vj> Finalllly!!!
  • [02:27:41] <vj> :)
  • [02:27:52] <vj> cwillu: using XChat
  • [02:27:55] <vj> :)
  • [02:27:58] <cwillu> \o/ :p
  • [02:27:58] <vj> thanks!!
  • [02:28:05] <vj> hehe
  • [02:28:29] <vj> cool... I just got all the accessories from RadioShack
  • [02:28:46] <vj> seems like I may be able to give a shot tmrw
  • [02:30:04] <vj> Don't have the power supply as yet
  • [02:30:13] <vj> may have to try with the OTG cable
  • [02:30:45] <vj> hmm....
  • [02:31:16] <vj> cwillu: Are there any other BB related IRC's?
  • [02:31:41] <cwillu> re: the beagle itself, not so much, but there's a few other arm/omap related channels
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  • [02:32:01] <vj> hmm...
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  • [02:32:31] <vj> cwillu: Not sure if I will ever get there, anytime soon.
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  • [03:07:44] <vj> hello
  • [03:08:14] <cwillu> vj, more active during the day generally :p
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  • [03:13:01] <vj> :P
  • [03:13:06] <vj> just excited
  • [03:13:08] <vj> :)
  • [03:13:24] <vj> with my new found IRC powers
  • [03:28:00] <vj> cwillu: Hopefully I gather some BB powers tomorrow :)
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  • [05:14:33] <hitlin37> Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt(angstrom prebuilt image with MLO,u boot n uImage)
  • [05:14:46] <hitlin37> where do am i missing
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  • [05:34:04] <hitlin37> where can i get d working prebuilt angstrom image
  • [05:42:23] <av500> pastebin the full log
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  • [06:45:39] <koen> hitlin37: use +5V to power it or use http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/uImage-2.6.32-r80+gitra6bad4464f985fdd3bed72e1b82dcbfc004d7869-beagleboard.multi-config-cpuidle.bin and deal with the serial port powersaving
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  • [08:28:33] <new2bb> hi all
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  • [08:37:18] <ghoti> hi new.
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  • [08:42:10] <jacekowski> i have questions about bootloader
  • [08:42:39] <jacekowski> when bootloader is loaded - where is it loaded
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  • [08:42:49] <jacekowski> 0x80000000?
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  • [08:56:11] <rs> is there any network utility to check the integrity of the data when uploading and downloading
  • [08:56:31] <new2bb> jacekowski:, i donn knw much , bt still frm serial port msg, i found this
  • [08:56:38] <new2bb> [ 57.440093] 0x000000000000-0x000000080000 : "X-Loader" [ 57.446746] 0x000000080000-0x000000260000 : "U-Boot" [ 57.453460] 0x000000260000-0x000000280000 : "U-Boot Env" [ 57.459808] 0x000000280000-0x000000680000 : "Kernel" [ 57.467376] 0x000000680000-0x000010000000 : "File System"
  • [08:57:04] <av500> pastebin please!!!!!!!!
  • [08:57:14] <new2bb> rs:, do you mean md5sum or sha256sum??
  • [08:57:23] <_koen_> rs: isn't that what tcp/ip is about?
  • [08:57:35] <rs> yes
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  • [08:58:22] <rs> sdio works on my hardware and i want to check if sdio interface is working correctly with data integrity check and throughput tests
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  • [08:58:52] <rs> so i use iperf, but it only tests throughput
  • [08:59:10] <rs> koen: do you mean to say iperf with tcp will check the integrity as well
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  • [09:01:08] <av500> rs: SDIO has a CRC already
  • [09:01:21] <av500> no need to test anything
  • [09:02:15] <rs> you are talking of the sdio protocol??
  • [09:02:31] <av500> you said sdio
  • [09:02:43] <av500> <rs> sdio works on my hardware
  • [09:02:58] <av500> and sdio is crc secured
  • [09:03:08] <new2bb> av500, I am unable to get login prompt on serial port using minicom, for linuxtag2010 image, bt for demo-image, i m getting that login prompt, when i compared both .bb file, i found that linuxtag2010 has an entry IMAGE_LOGIN_MANAGER="shadow".
  • [09:03:16] <rs> okay, the reason is i backported interupt support from .34 to .29 and i want to make sure that everything is fine
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  • [09:04:44] <av500> new2bb: iKnowNothing about that
  • [09:05:39] <new2bb> ohh, ok no problem, i'l try to solve myself
  • [09:06:00] <rs> av500: you think iperf should be fine to make sure everything is working perfectly?
  • [09:06:53] <new2bb> koen:, can you have a look at this:http://www.mail-archive.com/openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org/msg04768.html
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  • [09:15:19] <harbaum> Hi
  • [09:15:47] <harbaum> How do i log into beagleboard.org using a google account?
  • [09:16:56] <harbaum> Entering http://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id asked me for a login, but afterwards i am still not logged on
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  • [10:32:37] <Ralph_> hello
  • [10:36:16] <jacekowski> how is ARM handling exceptions?
  • [10:37:00] <_koen_> with rules
  • [10:38:16] <Ralph_> can someone help get gcc running on my beagleboard?
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  • [10:39:35] <koen> Ralph_: opkg install task-native-sdk (if you have angstrom)
  • [10:40:44] <Ralph_> Thanks I'll try that
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  • [10:47:26] <mru> _koen_: nice answer :-)
  • [10:48:09] <Ralph_> Couldn't download the package
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  • [10:49:07] <_koen_> ehm, task-sdk-native, that is
  • [10:49:32] <Ralph_> yes, my board doesn't connect to the internet
  • [10:50:16] <_koen_> then use narcissus to create a rootfs with gcc installed
  • [10:51:47] <Ralph_> do I need a 1GB SD card for that or can I use my 4GB card?
  • [10:52:13] <htns> anyone know if suspend to disk (NAND) is supported on beagle?
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  • [10:55:06] <topfs2> Ralph_, you just untar the rootfs so if its larger than 1gib then your fine
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  • [10:56:52] <Ralph_> Could I untar it on a fat32 file system?
  • [10:57:19] <_koen_> no
  • [10:57:29] <_koen_> you can't use linux on a fat partition properly
  • [10:59:21] <Ralph_> what file system should I use then? ext3?
  • [10:59:34] <_koen_> that's a safe choice
  • [11:00:35] <Ralph_> do I need any other kind of file system on the card?
  • [11:01:00] <Ralph_> or files?
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  • [11:09:38] <Ralph_> what tool would you recommend to partition and format the SD card?
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  • [11:14:33] <topfs2> Ralph_, when you use the narcissus it will give you an img file you can dd over
  • [11:14:44] <topfs2> then you can use gparted to expand the rootfs if you want
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  • [11:22:04] <new2bb> can sme 1 provide the latest link to follow for dsplink/bridge driver for beagleboard, ossie link , is not working for me or if sme 1 have tried that, then i can ask sme specific questions??
  • [11:23:06] <_koen_> opkg install ti-dsplink-module
  • [11:23:23] <_koen_> and if you want to build it, bitbake ti-dsplink
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  • [11:26:01] <new2bb> koen, i have done ti-codec-engine, which has generated few pkgs, cmem, lpm, codec-engine, dsplink .ipk, which build successfully,
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  • [11:26:54] <new2bb> and after that i have copied, all ipks to beagleboard-demo rfs (this is also build and loaded successfully)
  • [11:28:23] <new2bb> after booting and loading kernel image, when i m doing,opkg install ti-cmem-module_2_25_01_06-r80d.5_beagleboard
  • [11:28:36] <new2bb> .ipk
  • [11:30:15] <new2bb> following error: http://pastebin.com/QczVvvBP
  • [11:31:02] <new2bb> after that i have done, opkg update, still same error?? Is it right way of installing ipk
  • [11:31:05] <new2bb> ??
  • [11:31:56] <screwgoth1> new2bb: I was getting the exact same error
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  • [11:32:37] <_koen_> it means that the same package is already in the feeds
  • [11:32:39] <_koen_> so use that
  • [11:32:43] <screwgoth1> new2bb: I was told that this might be due to the fact that I had changed the recipe, but not update the version , say from "r12" to "r13"
  • [11:32:53] <_koen_> screwgoth1: exactly
  • [11:33:47] <screwgoth1> but _koen_ I have seen that sometimes I can just bitbake a package an install it's ipk, like, for example, when you bitbake nano
  • [11:34:06] <screwgoth1> and this is without updating the revision number ....
  • [11:34:17] <screwgoth1> I think there is something more at play here
  • [11:34:30] <_koen_> there isn't
  • [11:34:36] <_koen_> unless you know better than me
  • [11:41:36] <new2bb> screwgoth1:version implies PR in ti-codec-engine.inc??
  • [11:42:49] <screwgoth1> _koen_: :-) <white flag>
  • [11:43:22] <screwgoth1> new2bb: yes
  • [11:43:22] <new2bb> screwgoth1: extremely sorry, but can you plz explain me, which version?? is it PR in .inc/.bb file?? or is it smething else??
  • [11:43:48] <screwgoth1> new2bb: yes.. that the version .. that represents the version of the bitbake file
  • [11:44:02] <_koen_> if you aren't making changes, stay away from the recipes
  • [11:44:46] <_koen_> if you are making changes, increase PR
  • [11:45:59] <new2bb> I have not make any changes. and i haven't changed, ti-codec-engine.inc or any bb file
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  • [11:47:05] <new2bb> but that is true, i have made some temporary changes, in beagleboard-linuxtag2010-demo-image.bb file, which in turns builds ti-codec-engine
  • [11:47:25] <new2bb> so shud i change PR
  • [11:47:33] <_koen_> no
  • [11:48:03] <_koen_> and 'should' has an 'o' and 'l', btw
  • [11:48:32] <new2bb> extremely sorry, yes it is "should",
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  • [12:37:14] <ddd> anybody knows how to begin writing your own application on dsplink?
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  • [12:39:05] <av500> take one of the examples and modify it
  • [12:39:26] <av500> same for codec engine on top of dsplink
  • [12:39:38] <av500> for that, see the gsoc project
  • [12:40:15] <av500> http://code.google.com/p/opencv-dsp-acceleration/
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  • [12:45:14] <ddd> thank you, but i mean building a "stand alone" DSPLink application
  • [12:45:25] <av500> i dont understand
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  • [12:57:29] <Redb3ard> Ok, I've got the J6 shorted with a solder blob, but I still can't use the otg port as a plain usb. (Got it plugged into a hub, of course.)
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  • [13:21:42] <eFfeM> drinkcat: are you aware of this page: http://elinux.org/index.php?title=MUSB bumped into it by accident, thought it might be interesting to you
  • [13:23:03] <av500> cute, a wiki that keeps track of patches
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  • [13:25:49] <_koen_> I would think keeping your patches in a rebased tree with a proper commit log would work just as well
  • [13:26:43] <drinkcat> eFfeM: no, I wasn't aware of that, wondering which of these patches are already in Ajay's tree though... I quickly looked at one, and it seems to be in his tree...
  • [13:26:57] <av500> argh, a wiki that keeps track of patches
  • [13:27:01] <av500> :)
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  • [13:33:51] <josh1> hi all, anyone know of a hard RTOS other than integrity that runs on the beagle (or OMAP 3530)
  • [13:40:21] <_koen_> qnx
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  • [13:40:52] <eFfeM> drinkcat: i was surprised by the page as well
  • [13:41:26] <Redb3ard> Hey guys, rev C4... I've shorted J6 to try to use the otg port as plain usb (with powered hub), but it never recognizes anything plugged in, do I need a software fix as well?
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  • [14:03:16] <new2bb> hey,screwgoth1 and koen, Thanks alot, it did work :)
  • [14:03:35] <screwgoth1> new2bb: nice !!
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  • [14:04:50] <new2bb> :)
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  • [14:33:24] <Beagle7> hi... weird results using xbmc on beagle... all black screen on launch... no graphics. anyone have any ideas as to the cause?
  • [14:33:52] <Beagle7> this happens both in the version I built and the one I installed using opkg install
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  • [14:35:05] <av500> xbmc?
  • [14:35:15] <Beagle7> yep
  • [14:35:36] <koen> launch it inside an xsession, not from the cmdline
  • [14:38:33] <Beagle7> hmmm... that's what I'm doing
  • [14:38:53] <Beagle7> i'm using Enlightenment, if that makes a difference
  • [14:39:14] <Beagle7> I launch it from "Run Everything"
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  • [14:44:47] <_koen_> note to self: have enough cash on hand when the mailman comes to drop off a parcel with import tax
  • [14:45:01] <_koen_> especially when you're away the week after
  • [14:45:13] <_koen_> so that beagletouch will have to wait :(
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  • [14:45:53] <Beagle7> ;-)
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  • [14:56:34] <Beagle7> _koen: hard to get big companies to have a check available... did not know a package was on the way
  • [14:58:40] * koen is at home :)
  • [14:59:52] <Beagle7> _koen_: hard to get big companies to have a check available... did not know a package was on the way
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  • [15:27:26] <kevindra> hi
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  • [17:08:59] <koen> jkridner1: seems like vaibhav and sergio are making lots of progress with the camera stuff
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  • [17:24:13] <Beagle7> any way I can post the xbmc.log somewhere for someone to take a look at? I'm stumped as to why my xbmc just shows a black screen
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  • [17:25:16] <topfs2> Beagle7, pastebin is a good place
  • [17:25:36] <topfs2> (and I would be glad to take a look)
  • [17:25:41] <topfs2> First off, which branch?
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  • [17:30:13] <topfs2> Beagle7, pastebin.com for instance if I wasn't clear :)
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  • [17:33:07] <koen> jkridner1: openjdk is now in the angstrom feeds
  • [17:33:15] <koen> jkridner1: (well, since a week or 2)
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  • [17:35:41] <Beagle7> topfs2: thanks! http://pastebin.com/Ld7dmFma
  • [17:36:22] <Beagle7> i installed the xbmc package that koen had posted
  • [17:36:27] <Beagle7> using opkg
  • [17:36:48] <Beagle7> but I also built your branch natively and had the same result
  • [17:37:12] <topfs2> Seems like you have trouble loading the images
  • [17:37:28] <topfs2> Try starting it as root (shouldn't be needed but try it just the same)
  • [17:37:30] <Beagle7> I saw that... could explain the blank screeen :-)
  • [17:37:38] <Beagle7> it is running as root
  • [17:37:48] <topfs2> ok, try without root hten
  • [17:37:51] <topfs2> *then
  • [17:37:53] <Beagle7> same
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  • [17:39:03] <topfs2> How did you create your rootfs?
  • [17:39:09] <Beagle7> I used narcissus
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  • [17:39:27] <Beagle7> untar'd it to the second partition...
  • [17:39:36] <topfs2> tbh, I'm perplexed on this error. I really can't see why it should happen
  • [17:39:42] <Beagle7> hmmm
  • [17:40:09] <topfs2> I think you get the same error as koen atleast, it looks like its our picture loader, which admitely sucks
  • [17:42:05] <Beagle7> but koen's works, no?
  • [17:42:21] <topfs2> Well not on xM but it works on C4 I think
  • [17:44:12] <Beagle7> my dmesg is telling me I'm getting a number of Alignment traps in the kernel
  • [17:44:33] <Beagle7> e.g. [89904.340820] Alignment trap in kernel: Xorg (1063) PC=0xbf06572c Instr=0xe897000f Address=0xcee2c186 FSR 0x001
  • [17:44:56] <mru> that's bad
  • [17:45:28] <topfs2> is magick++ working good on arm?
  • [17:45:31] <Ceriand|work> it's in a module you loaded, not the kernel proper
  • [17:45:46] <topfs2> because I made a patch for using that instead which might be worth trying out
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  • [17:47:05] <Beagle7> happy to try anything out
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  • [17:48:04] <topfs2> http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/8992
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  • [17:48:10] <topfs2> Not sure how cleanly it will apply
  • [17:48:12] <topfs2> doh :)
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  • [17:51:17] <topfs2> Beagle0 == Beagle7 ? :)
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  • [17:57:05] <Beagle0> yep
  • [17:57:18] <Beagle0> surfed away for a sec
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  • [17:59:48] <topfs2> http://trac.xbmc.org/ticket/8992
  • [17:59:56] <topfs2> <topfs2> Not sure how cleanly it will apply
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  • [18:01:36] <Beagle0> ok...
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  • [18:02:04] <Beagle0> did you way koen had it running on a c4?
  • [18:02:36] <Beagle0> errr... did you say...
  • [18:03:39] <Beagle0> silly question... how can I tell which version I have... /proc/cpuinfo tells me Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 3 (v7l) BogoMIPS : 505.22
  • [18:04:43] <mru> the beagle version is written on the board beside the ehci port
  • [18:07:15] <Beagle0> thanks
  • [18:08:03] <Beagle0> topfs2: I have a C4... if koen had it running on his C4, I wonder what the difference might be
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  • [18:32:24] <topfs2> Beagle0, I have c4 aswell
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  • [18:41:22] <Beagle0> topfs2: It works!!!
  • [18:41:37] <Beagle0> just rebooted and magically it is now working
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  • [18:41:55] <qball> all hail the beagle
  • [18:42:43] <topfs2> haha, cool
  • [18:45:50] <Beagle0> too funny
  • [18:46:19] <topfs2> silly slow though :(
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  • [19:02:39] <ahoka> anyone knows which bus does the dm9000 use on devkit8000 boards?
  • [19:05:55] <Beagle0> topfs2: I'm finding that all of the menus are being layered atop one another with transparent backgrounds
  • [19:06:37] <topfs2> yes, its a bug
  • [19:08:11] <koen> sweet, easyjet changed their schedules again
  • [19:08:21] <koen> so I can get he direct train to the airport now
  • [19:08:33] <koen> at 5 in the morning, put still a direct train :)
  • [19:09:01] <qball> they will change it again
  • [19:09:02] <Beagle0> ok... well, I'm happy I've got the thing running
  • [19:09:34] <koen> qball: they did that during the daylight savings time
  • [19:10:00] <koen> qball: so instead of arriving around 8 in the uk you end up arriving around 10
  • [19:10:10] <koen> now they are back to 8:30
  • [19:10:19] <qball> or somebody smokes a cigar around the airport, causing the planes to be rerouted
  • [19:10:25] <koen> heh
  • [19:10:30] <qball> lets not talk about the train
  • [19:10:40] <qball> my god, I only had the train going on time twice this week
  • [19:10:46] <koen> it next monday
  • [19:10:48] <qball> that is like less then 20% off the time
  • [19:10:52] <koen> so 90% of .nl will be in a coma
  • [19:11:12] <qball> stupid soccer
  • [19:11:24] <koen> aye
  • [19:14:22] <qball> I wish this heat would end, we would have a nice winter again
  • [19:14:37] <qball> nice - 10 or so
  • [19:15:21] <koen> I'm taking short to the UK
  • [19:15:28] <koen> so I bet it will be cold and rainy
  • [19:15:32] <koen> \o/
  • [19:15:38] <qball> england my lovely england
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  • [19:54:08] <koen> av500: new suspend blocker mail on l-o!
  • [19:54:23] <koen> pavel machek mails always make me want to stab myself in the face
  • [19:54:27] <ds2> and I was just out of popcorn...
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  • [19:55:12] <koen> pavel machek is the guy that installed a complete chroot just to get bash because package management is too hard for him
  • [19:55:30] <ds2> with OE...that might be the easiest thing to do ;)
  • [19:55:31] * ds2 ducks
  • [19:55:52] <koen> ds2: OE is a buildsystem, not a distribution
  • [19:55:58] <koen> your statement makes no sense
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  • [20:00:58] <_av500_> koen: cool!
  • [20:01:19] <_av500_> koen: not an image?
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  • [20:13:55] <djlewis_> hi _av500_
  • [20:13:58] <koen> prpplague: since it's friday, I printeed http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3063
  • [20:14:09] <koen> prpplague: works great on beer bottles :)
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  • [20:15:43] <pardusseven> how I can install win ce on my sd card
  • [20:15:57] <pardusseven> wince 6.0 or 5.0
  • [20:16:08] * _av500_ winces
  • [20:16:44] <_av500_> gm djlewis_
  • [20:16:52] <_av500_> gm prpplague
  • [20:17:00] <_av500_> gm ds2
  • [20:17:03] <_av500_> end;
  • [20:18:17] <pardusseven> how I can test my beagleboard's peripherals
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  • [20:23:06] <pardusseven> is anybody here
  • [20:24:25] <djlewis_> pardusseven: there are writeups on that. even links from beagleboard.org
  • [20:24:29] <djlewis_> google?
  • [20:28:38] <pardusseven> I can't find it
  • [20:28:47] <pardusseven> are you sure djlewis_
  • [20:30:59] <pardusseven> djlewis_: can I ask some questions
  • [20:32:53] <prpplague> _av500_: greetings
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  • [20:49:02] <pardusseven> I installed my sd card angstrom, microsoft usb mouse didn't work
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  • [20:49:31] <pardusseven> where do I wrong
  • [20:49:41] <pardusseven> mistake
  • [20:49:47] <GrueMaster> using a microsoft mouse?
  • [20:49:53] <mru> yes, mistakes are where you do wrong
  • [20:50:42] <pardusseven> yes
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  • [20:50:55] <pardusseven> I m using microsoft usb mouse
  • [20:51:11] <GrueMaster> I was referring to that as your mistake. :P
  • [20:51:31] <GrueMaster> Actually, there is documentation on testing the beagleboard here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard
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  • [20:52:19] <pardusseven> GrueMaster: thanks
  • [20:53:21] <pardusseven> how can I run evtest.c hyper terminal
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  • [20:53:44] <bobkatzz> Zounds! ZigBee?
  • [20:54:10] <pardusseven> I think test file evtest.c
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  • [20:55:47] <djlewis_> pardusseven: are you plugging your mouse directly into the BB or a powered hub?
  • [20:56:22] <bobkatzz> anyone done anything with ZigBee on the BB? or messed with wifi remote devices?
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  • [20:57:24] <bobkatzz> looking for some other things for the BeagleBrick to control and then my attic fan went out. T'was the cheesy bimetal "thermostat" supplied with the thing. Interesting timing, hehe. I'd like to wifi the thing and monitor it's operation remotely.
  • [20:57:36] * djlewis_ plugged in a Digi Zigbee board and it was detected last year.
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  • [20:57:49] <bobkatzz> model?
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  • [20:57:56] <bobkatzz> hey djlewis_
  • [20:58:02] <bobkatzz> how'r things?
  • [20:58:22] <djlewis_> busy here today, getting yelled at etc, GREAT!
  • [20:58:29] <djlewis_> ;)
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  • [20:59:22] <bobkatzz> the XYL or colleages? B^)
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  • [20:59:28] <pardusseven> yes, I m plugging my mouse directly
  • [20:59:43] <djlewis_> coleagues
  • [20:59:49] <djlewis_> +l
  • [20:59:58] <bobkatzz> oh - the pirana pit?
  • [21:00:00] <djlewis_> pardusseven: get a self powered hub
  • [21:00:21] <bobkatzz> I did that on the last two gigs hehe
  • [21:00:22] <djlewis_> BB ports are 2.0 only, mouse and kybd generally 1.1
  • [21:00:36] <djlewis_> hub adapts
  • [21:00:57] <djlewis_> well, hubs sinve 1.2, get a 2.x hub
  • [21:00:57] <bobkatzz> so I fund the Digi site - thanks will look it over
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  • [21:01:37] <bobkatzz> found
  • [21:01:55] <koen> bobkatzz: good day!
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  • [21:02:44] <koen> bobkatzz: for some serious radio: http://www.gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=247
  • [21:02:51] <pardusseven> djlewis_: understand, thanks, I think my usb mouse 1.1
  • [21:02:59] <djlewis_> bobkatzz: i pickd a 2 board dev kit with 2 zigbee while back when they were on sale.
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  • [21:06:03] <_av500_> bobkatzz: greets
  • [21:07:05] * _av500_ leaves the channel to em new world folks...
  • [21:07:19] <djlewis_> later _av500_
  • [21:07:28] <Crofton> gn
  • [21:07:28] <_av500_> ja
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  • [21:29:54] <ds2> koen: I consider scratchox and buildroots to be distros too ;)
  • [21:30:21] * mru considers those to be abominations
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  • [21:30:27] <mru> along with fedora and suse
  • [21:30:44] <djlewis_> Norton and mcafee
  • [21:32:40] <nerdy1> Hi all, I appear to have bricked my beagleboard C3, on reset all I get is 15-ish high characters including a 40V
  • [21:32:54] <nerdy1> Can anyone point me in the right direction?
  • [21:33:00] <emeb> what distro does mru like best (or hate least)?
  • [21:33:06] * mru fetches mortar
  • [21:33:20] <mru> emeb: my machines all run gentoo
  • [21:33:32] * emeb nods
  • [21:35:18] <emeb> nerdy1: no such thing as bricking a beagle. see here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardRecovery
  • [21:35:54] <emeb> nerdy1: if you're seeing the 40V that means the bootrom is working fine. Just need to sort out your NAND & SD
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  • [21:36:57] <nerdy1> emeb: Thanks, I've been trying to uart-recover as the regular recovery hasn't worked.
  • [21:37:48] <nerdy1> emeb: I have a known good sd with this doc followed: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevC3Validation
  • [21:38:55] <nerdy1> emeb: The bb just doesn't want to go any further than spitting out those 15 characters...
  • [21:39:49] <mru> 15 characters ought to be enough for anyone
  • [21:40:17] <emeb> nerdy1: how do you know your SD is good?
  • [21:40:25] <nerdy1> In a couple hours it'll be good enough for me!
  • [21:40:35] <nerdy1> I've booted off it in the past
  • [21:40:52] <nerdy1> built on a debian box just today
  • [21:41:12] <nerdy1> I can try building on a windows box I suppose
  • [21:41:18] <emeb> so you built it today and have booted from it, but now your BB is no longer booting?
  • [21:41:50] <nerdy1> Right, I have been trying to get the rowboat android to run.
  • [21:42:06] <emeb> on a different SD?
  • [21:42:37] <nerdy1> I've just been overwriting that one
  • [21:43:13] <nerdy1> Then I had some cruft from oxlab android on my screen and followed another recovery doc...
  • [21:43:16] <emeb> so, since you built that SD which booted OK, you've overwritten it with android?
  • [21:43:34] <nerdy1> and embarrasingly probably screwed it up via my own ignorance
  • [21:43:47] <nerdy1> I erased the nand
  • [21:44:12] <nerdy1> I fear there are many 'dangerous' things you can do with these.. :)
  • [21:45:37] <nerdy1> Right, I've overwritten it with android, and with the rowboat team's reflashing procedure
  • [21:45:38] <nerdy1> http://code.google.com/p/rowboat/wiki/UsingPreBuiltImages
  • [21:46:04] <emeb> so, really you haven't successfully booted of the _current_ contents of the SD?
  • [21:46:21] <emeb> s/of/off/
  • [21:46:30] <djlewis_> I hear it coming ... wait,, wait ..
  • [21:46:46] <djlewis_> the suspense rises .... wait....
  • [21:46:51] <nerdy1> ??
  • [21:46:54] <nerdy1> No...
  • [21:47:01] <emeb> ahhh....
  • [21:47:02] <djlewis_> bang
  • [21:47:04] <nerdy1> AFAIK no
  • [21:47:38] * djlewis_ couldn't help himself :)
  • [21:48:05] <djlewis_> good detective work emeb
  • [21:48:13] <nerdy1> I take it improper SD cards are a common problem?
  • [21:48:20] <djlewis_> yep
  • [21:48:20] <emeb> errr, yeah
  • [21:48:36] <nerdy1> I figured I would at least see logs from it trying to boot nand or SD.
  • [21:48:39] <emeb> however, erasing the NAND doesn't help any
  • [21:49:03] <djlewis_> dont make me lol now . . .
  • [21:49:12] <emeb> if you don't have the MLO in the right place you'll never see anything except the 40V + garbage
  • [21:50:01] * djlewis_ wonders if it is his lack of sleep or over indulgence in caffiene last two days . . . ponders. . .
  • [21:50:22] <emeb> djlewis_: coming off a death march?
  • [21:50:58] <djlewis_> emeb: I been on call for a friend building a 24" Dob. To test for struss cutting.
  • [21:51:08] <djlewis_> emeb: clear skies are a rarity here of late.
  • [21:51:14] <djlewis_> so 2am it was.
  • [21:51:17] <mru> djlewis_: we took them from ya
  • [21:51:22] <djlewis_> and an hours drive
  • [21:51:24] <djlewis_> one way
  • [21:51:51] <djlewis_> and I came back another hour after lots of setup and take down..
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  • [21:52:35] <djlewis_> what is the image pastebin site?
  • [21:52:50] <mru> there's imagebin.ca
  • [21:52:55] <djlewis_> ptnc
  • [21:52:57] <djlewis_> tnx
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  • [21:55:03] <nerdy1> emeb: I see.. Should I not have been able to uart load it then? It just got stuck on Sending 2ndFile:
  • [21:55:21] <djlewis_> me on left: http://imagebin.ca/view/pQQ7SBX.html
  • [21:55:59] <mru> image left or your left?
  • [21:56:14] <djlewis_> left you lefty ;)
  • [21:57:01] <emeb> nerdy1: UART load should work - that's built into the bootrom (same thing that gives the 40V msg)
  • [21:57:26] <emeb> bootrom = unbrickable
  • [21:57:42] <nerdy1> Right, so here's the log I get from pserial:./pserial -p /dev/ttyS1 -f x-load.bin Waiting For Device ASIC ID: Press Ctrl+C to stop ASIC ID Detected. Sending 2ndFile:
  • [21:57:47] <nerdy1> and stuck
  • [21:58:27] <emeb> nerdy1: that's outside my experience.
  • [21:58:40] * emeb has never UART loaded
  • [21:58:48] <nerdy1> Just rebult that SD card on my windows box and same issue.
  • [21:59:02] <emeb> tried holding the USER button?
  • [21:59:24] <nerdy1> You bet
  • [21:59:55] <nerdy1> Formatted with fat32 and just tried fat
  • [22:00:10] <emeb> an always put MLO on first?
  • [22:00:14] <nerdy1> yep
  • [22:00:25] <nerdy1> could partition table on this card be screwing it up?
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  • [22:00:31] <emeb> and no other files except MLO, u-boot & uImage.
  • [22:00:40] <emeb> and no filenames other than 8.3 format?
  • [22:01:11] <emeb> partition table could screw it up.
  • [22:01:13] <nerdy1> formatted with hp tool first
  • [22:01:28] <emeb> bootloader doesn't know anything about partitions - just hunts for MLO at a fixed offset.
  • [22:02:08] <nerdy1> All 8 files from this page: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevC3Validation
  • [22:02:27] <emeb> but it sounds like you need to fix your NAND up.
  • [22:02:27] <nerdy1> I remember reading a real goofy partition creating procedure, maybe I'll track that down again
  • [22:03:05] <emeb> nerdy1: how long did you wait during pserial for 2nd file?
  • [22:04:01] <nerdy1> A minute or two
  • [22:04:27] <emeb> Hmmm - wonder if that was long enough. Uploading code to NAND at UART rates could be slow.
  • [22:04:36] <nerdy1> oh my god I might be retard
  • [22:04:57] <nerdy1> I set that partition to bootable on my linux machine and it worked
  • [22:04:57] <mru> have you taken the pencil test?
  • [22:05:08] <nerdy1> pencil test?
  • [22:05:38] <mru> stick a pencil in your left ear, if it comes out your right ear, you're a bit dim
  • [22:05:48] <djlewis_> ooh, fun
  • [22:06:12] <qball> mru: what if it comes out of my noose?
  • [22:06:13] <nerdy1> Friday afternoon I might win that one!
  • [22:06:17] <qball> damn spelling
  • [22:06:19] <mru> they taught us that in highschool physics class
  • [22:06:38] <djlewis_> qball: got taht pencil stuck somewhere?
  • [22:06:40] <mru> you wear a noose? feeling a bit depressed?
  • [22:06:58] <qball> yeah
  • [22:07:10] <qball> but there are no trees
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  • [22:07:13] <nerdy1> Still, that's a bit goofy, if the bb is just looking for MLO at an offset, why would *changing* a bit in the partition table make a difference?
  • [22:07:29] <djlewis_> changes the offset?
  • [22:07:40] <nerdy1> FIles were already written
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  • [22:11:42] <nerdy1> at any rate, thanks for the help!
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  • [22:27:23] <Circuitsoft> Do the latest MLO and u-boot still support Rev. B5?
  • [22:27:50] <mru> they work on my C0
  • [22:28:00] <mru> which is a weird B/C halfway beast
  • [22:28:21] <mru> it's detected as Bx
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  • [22:28:37] <mru> iirc latest sw supports all hw revs
  • [22:29:04] <Circuitsoft> Ok.
  • [22:29:09] <Circuitsoft> Also, having trouble with omapfb.
  • [22:29:19] <Circuitsoft> omapfb omapfb: no displays
  • [22:29:20] <Circuitsoft> omapfb omapfb: failed to setup omapfb
  • [22:29:22] <Circuitsoft> omapfb: probe of omapfb failed with error -22
  • [22:29:33] <mru> modprobe panel-generic
  • [22:29:52] <Circuitsoft> fgrep PANEL .config
  • [22:29:54] <Circuitsoft> CONFIG_PANEL_GENERIC=y
  • [22:30:10] <mru> then I don't know
  • [22:30:43] <Circuitsoft> Kernel command line: console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p3 rootdelay=2 rootfstype=ext4 ro omap-dss.dev_disp=lcd omapfb.video_mode=1280x720MR-24@60
  • [22:31:33] <mru> s/dev_disp=lcd/def_disp=dvi/
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  • [22:52:30] <thurbad> does the current beagleboard demo image have a C/C++ toolchain preinstalled?
  • [22:53:32] <thurbad> or does it need to have opkg install task-native run on it?
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  • [22:54:28] <vj> Hello... I was trying to breathe life into my BB
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  • [22:54:52] <vj> followed the instructions from here http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/HowToGetAngstromRunning
  • [22:55:01] <vj> I get the following message:
  • [22:55:11] <vj> I2C: ready DRAM: 256 MB NAND: 256 MiB *** Warning - bad CRC or NAND, using default environment In: serial Out: serial Err: serial Board revision C4 Die ID #542a000400000000040373050b009014 Hit any key to stop autoboot: 0 No MMC card found Booting from nand ... NAND read: device 0 offset 0x280000, size 0x400000 4194304 bytes read: OK Wrong Image Format for bootm command ERROR: can't get kernel image! OMAP3 beagleboard.org #
  • [22:55:30] <vj> Is the *** Warning normal ?
  • [22:55:43] <vj> cwillu_at_work: Is the warning normal ?
  • [22:55:59] <cwillu> yes
  • [22:56:29] <vj> cwillu: I did not see this warnig under the instructions demo, what does this indicate ?
  • [22:56:43] <thurbad> you don't have an OS on the nand do you?
  • [22:56:45] <cwillu> there's no environment written
  • [22:56:55] <vj> hmm
  • [22:57:00] <vj> cwillu: thanks!
  • [22:57:20] <vj> I love the BB irc
  • [22:57:23] <vj> :)
  • [22:57:34] <vj> thanks everyone.... so much to learn from you all
  • [22:58:30] <vj> Is there a workaround to use IRC clients from behind a firewall ?
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  • [22:59:11] <djlewis_> thurbad: right on, task-native-sdk or something like.
  • [22:59:45] <vj_> :(
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  • [23:00:46] <mru> vj: there's usually some way to get out from behind a firewall
  • [23:00:55] <vj_> how ?
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  • [23:01:16] <cwillu> vj_, it's documented :p
  • [23:01:26] <mru> depends on the firewall
  • [23:01:35] <mru> but usually something is open
  • [23:01:50] <vj_> cwillu: ok thanks I will look around
  • [23:02:22] <mru> it's always easier if you control a server on the outside
  • [23:02:33] <mru> so you can set up an sshd on port 443 and such things
  • [23:02:37] <vj_> hmm
  • [23:02:40] <vj_> thanks all
  • [23:02:46] <vj_> need to leave
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  • [23:02:54] <vj_> Have a nice weekend
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  • [23:17:49] <thurbad> most people I know that are behind work firewalls use ssh tunnels and run the irc on their home machines
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  • [23:18:09] <thurbad> or at least through the home machine
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