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  • [00:21:37] <djlewis> oh my god, an embedded w7
  • [00:22:58] <djlewis> circle the wagons, round up the women and children, man your battle stations
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  • [00:26:49] <emeb> I wouldn't worry. It's probably a pig.
  • [00:27:12] <djlewis> lol
  • [00:29:12] <djlewis> good, I don't want to add virus/malware to my embedded experience
  • [00:29:21] <ds2> is that a window chiseled out of stone?
  • [00:29:32] <emeb> AFAICT it's just rebranded WinCE : http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/products/windowsce/compact7.mspx
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  • [00:31:59] <emeb> "build solutions and devices with tools and technologies that you can trust every step of the way" WARGHARBL
  • [00:34:50] <djlewis> i just gotta put this bucket of ice cream away :p
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  • [00:37:41] <emeb> but if you do, it'll be calling to you from the freezer: "dj... dj... eeeeaaat meeee...."
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  • [00:38:18] <djlewis> oh, i'm trying to not touch that line ;/
  • [00:38:24] <emeb> :)
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  • [00:54:33] <djlewis> but then I tend to always live in the minority opinions group . hehee
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  • [02:24:18] <djlewis> time to put this computer to sleep. later,
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  • [02:34:52] <aurora> hi , is there any way to change psplash without gcc on inside beagle ?
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  • [04:01:23] <saul> hi
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  • [04:02:57] <saul> I have some questions regarding the kernel compilation....I am trying to do as this page says (using quilt) http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardLinuxKernel however, when I check the linux-omap_2.6.29.bb there is SRC_URI_beagleboard ..... should I add the 2 patches listed in here in the series file too??
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  • [04:47:14] <hemant_J> hey any one has worked with CC2500 here?
  • [04:47:37] <ds2> what do you want to know?
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  • [04:48:29] <hemant_J> i have made my own cc2500 module
  • [04:48:53] <hemant_J> 10 in numbers but only 2 giving good raage
  • [04:49:16] <hemant_J> but all 10 are transmiting for good distance
  • [04:51:11] <hemant_J> want to know which factor should i check
  • [04:51:24] <ds2> what kind of antenna?
  • [04:51:56] <hemant_J> antenna design given on TI site
  • [04:52:04] <hemant_J> its on board antenns
  • [04:52:28] <ds2> but what kind.. there are several types you can have on board
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  • [05:04:51] <hemant_J> Its F shape antena
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  • [05:17:12] <ds2> oh PCB antennas
  • [05:17:34] <ds2> check your tolerances on the components then
  • [05:17:58] <ds2> what kind of range are you seeing?
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  • [05:24:30] <hemant_J> m tring to achive range at least 15 meters at 115.2 kbps
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  • [05:24:50] <ds2> 50ft...
  • [05:24:53] <hemant_J> but getting just 5 ~10 meters
  • [05:24:59] <hemant_J> yup
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  • [05:25:22] <hemant_J> is it possible or i have to go for patch antena?
  • [05:25:24] <ds2> is the antenna well exposed? 25ft is what I am seeing but I have a very bad layout
  • [05:25:56] <ds2> I'd try to peak it somehow... I suspect a poor matching network
  • [05:26:02] <hemant_J> http://focus.ti.com/lit/an/swru120b/swru120b.pdf
  • [05:26:19] <hemant_J> this a pdf file i got frm ti
  • [05:26:28] <hemant_J> i copied same for my antena
  • [05:26:58] <ds2> did you use a controlled substrate?
  • [05:27:02] <hemant_J> and circuit is same as given in data sheet
  • [05:27:08] <Seb0001561> koen: I try the OE branch but I am facing the same problem, I have "linux-omap-psp" in my overo.conf, where I am wrong? (my console-image.bb build uImage2.6.33)
  • [05:28:14] <ds2> if you are seeing 2 good receive boards out of 10, I suspect you have either a process or a tolerance problem
  • [05:28:46] <hemant_J> my board are normal pth
  • [05:29:00] <hemant_J> material used is avraged
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  • [05:29:48] <hemant_J> so should i change any capcitor values at antena side ?
  • [05:30:12] <hemant_J> i m using pcb track inductor insted of component
  • [05:31:38] <ds2> I'd get some instrumentation on there and tune it
  • [05:31:46] <ds2> with an xacto knife
  • [05:32:10] <ds2> average doesn't cut it unless you want your design to work on the average ;)
  • [05:32:37] <ds2> why do you want a PCB antenna?
  • [05:32:43] <hemant_J> i dont have such tools wid me
  • [05:33:17] <hemant_J> because i want to integrate rf module and uc on same board
  • [05:33:25] <ds2> uc?
  • [05:33:36] <hemant_J> microcontroller
  • [05:33:40] <hemant_J> atmega8
  • [05:33:43] <ds2> oh
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  • [05:33:55] <ds2> that isn't a reason to use a PCB antenna
  • [05:34:05] <ds2> and why not use a CC430 instead? less work
  • [05:34:32] <ds2> or even a CC2430 (the one with the processor on there)
  • [05:34:55] <hemant_J> i want my final product as small as posible
  • [05:35:31] <ds2> uh...
  • [05:35:33] <hemant_J> CC430 is having 1 gsm
  • [05:35:40] <hemant_J> i mean 1 ghz
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  • [05:35:50] <ds2> the CC2430 thingiee is at 2.4GHz
  • [05:36:00] <ds2> I thought they were doing a 2.4GHz CC430
  • [05:36:46] <hemant_J> ok
  • [05:36:52] <emeb> hemant_J: how did you mount the CC2500 to the board?
  • [05:37:11] <ds2> emeb:tape ;)
  • [05:37:27] <emeb> and conductive glue...
  • [05:37:29] <hemant_J> noraml sodering
  • [05:37:34] <ds2> actually, if you want small, WTF are you using an atmega?!
  • [05:37:38] <hemant_J> applying some flux on pcb
  • [05:37:43] <hemant_J> and then heat it
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  • [05:37:50] <emeb> hotplate?
  • [05:38:05] <hemant_J> because my privios version has same uc
  • [05:38:18] <hemant_J> and i want to upgrade my system
  • [05:38:20] <ds2> no reason to continue mistakes
  • [05:38:44] <hemant_J> hmmm
  • [05:38:48] <zhx> anyone use Android on BeagleBoard?
  • [05:39:19] <hemant_J> @emb yup
  • [05:39:27] <ds2> zhx: "use"?
  • [05:39:29] <emeb> hemant_J: just wondering if you got the interior ground pad well connected.
  • [05:39:48] <emeb> that could have a big effect at 2.4Ghz
  • [05:39:58] <hemant_J> no actuly it is masked
  • [05:40:12] <emeb> hmmm - that could be a problem.
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  • [05:40:24] <hemant_J> heyyy
  • [05:40:27] <hemant_J> thanx
  • [05:40:36] <hemant_J> let me check uif it works or not
  • [05:41:13] <hemant_J> @ds2 thanx
  • [05:41:30] <hemant_J> i will go throug 2430 also
  • [05:41:37] <_av500_> gm boys
  • [05:41:49] <emeb> gm _av500_
  • [05:42:00] <ds2> look at the MSP430 as a uC
  • [05:42:07] <emeb> ds2: those cc parts look pretty interesting...
  • [05:42:17] <ds2> emeb: yep, indeed
  • [05:42:24] <ds2> not the quietest parts though
  • [05:42:30] <emeb> kinda in the same ballpark as some of the Nordic stuff.
  • [05:42:43] <ds2> more advanced then the nordic things, IIRC
  • [05:42:50] <emeb> Oh - do they splatter out-of-band?
  • [05:42:52] <_av500_> zhx: check #rowboat and or 0xdroid
  • [05:43:12] <ds2> no, their noise floor isn't that low... it is usable but not instrument grade
  • [05:43:39] <emeb> Ah - and since they use the same pins for TX/RX it's tough to put a preamp on 'em
  • [05:43:49] <ds2> not really
  • [05:44:00] <ds2> you can program it to have a GPIO drive the enable of the pre-amp
  • [05:44:22] <emeb> neat. but then you lose some of the size advantage.
  • [05:44:33] <ds2> that and potential FCC issues
  • [05:44:39] <zhx> _av500_: thanks
  • [05:44:43] <emeb> ?? on RX?
  • [05:44:46] <ds2> it can even drive a PA on the TX end
  • [05:44:55] <ds2> well, maybe not on RX
  • [05:45:00] <ds2> unless you are using a module
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  • [05:46:05] <emeb> Looks like it would make a cute little digilent PMOD... Just needs power & SPI
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  • [05:46:31] <ds2> there is even a UART mode
  • [05:47:01] <emeb> pin-strapped?
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  • [05:47:17] <emeb> w/ AT command set or equiv...
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  • [05:49:48] <emeb> wow - those are cheap: $5.10 /qty1 @ Digi-Key
  • [05:50:16] <emeb> need to get a couple on my next order...
  • [05:50:20] <zhx> ds2: I have no touchscreen with my board, i wonder if mouse could be used, it seems that the click is ok, but i can't see the pointer
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  • [05:56:35] <ds2> zhx: Android is designed for use with touch screen
  • [05:57:58] <zhx> ds2: i know, but i still want some patches to enable mouse support...
  • [05:58:09] <ds2> just add a touch screen
  • [05:58:09] <_av500_> zhx: 0xdroid has that
  • [05:58:14] <ds2> it is trivial
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  • [05:59:07] <zhx> _av500_: thanks, i will have a look
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  • [06:01:06] <Deviatorr> hi , i m having problem on psplash , i tried to install new psplash from my ipk file but i got error : * Package psplash md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'.
  • [06:01:13] <Deviatorr> how can i fix that problem ?
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  • [07:48:49] <YeahYeah> anyone here
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  • [08:18:51] <djszapi> YeahYeah: yep
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  • [08:39:32] <maltanar> hi all!
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  • [08:47:45] <eFfeM_work> yo maltanar, all
  • [08:52:48] <linda> Hello
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  • [09:46:55] <ankit82> Hi I am using the customized OMAP3 board, it has the video input & USB wifi connectivity. but some how while running the live tv input USB wifi stops working
  • [09:47:04] <ankit82> Any help will be appreciated
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  • [09:48:15] <av500> ankit82: doing what?
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  • [10:00:49] <ankit82> <av500> it gives me this error phy0 -> rt2x00usb_vendor_request: Error - Vendor Request 0x07 failed for offset 0x308c with error -110.
  • [10:01:00] <av500> doing what?
  • [10:02:04] <ankit82> <av500> I playing the live TV through video port input using ISP port (tvp5146 decoder) & have the Ralink base USB wifi
  • [10:02:37] <ankit82> <av500> I streaming live tv & getting connected to web through USB wifi but after some time (!0-15 min) i am getting such errros
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  • [10:03:52] <ankit82> <av500> it continues playing the TV but wifi stops working i am also using the resizer to resize the stream
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  • [10:28:33] <ankit82> <av500> any suggestions
  • [10:30:10] <av500> not really
  • [10:30:35] <av500> which usb is it? musb or ehci?
  • [10:30:45] <av500> ehic I guess
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  • [10:32:23] <ankit82> <av500>EHCI
  • [10:32:42] <ankit82> <av500> it lloks to be a interference problem
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  • [10:34:24] <av500> ankit82: can u pastebin a full dmesg log of the error
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  • [10:36:41] <ankit82> <av500> can I send here in a file?
  • [10:36:55] <av500> pastebin.com
  • [10:37:57] <ankit82> <Av500> i am sending u logs which i am getting in runtime
  • [10:38:56] <ankit82> <av500>sent it
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  • [10:39:02] <av500> ???
  • [10:39:48] <mru> av500: use crystal ball
  • [10:40:27] <av500> it's broken
  • [10:41:13] <ankit82> <av500> my logs are broken?
  • [10:42:01] <av500> what logs?
  • [10:42:15] <ankit82> <av500> i have put on pastebin.com
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  • [10:42:55] <av500> ankit82: and why dont you post the url herE?
  • [10:43:24] <ankit82> <av500> http://pastebin.com/SgkanLfJ
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  • [11:06:25] <ankit82> <av500>any help, suggestions?
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  • [11:22:34] <av500> ankit82: sorry, no idea
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  • [11:36:37] <YeahYeah> anyone had any luck attaching wifi to the beagle
  • [11:37:52] <mru> many have
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  • [11:41:37] <av500> there is a gps for beagle, maybe they also have wifi? http://site.unbeatablesale.com/img092/gvds815.jpg
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  • [11:59:51] <YeahYeah> mru what do they use?
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  • [12:22:02] <chrisUSB> hi...
  • [12:23:19] <chrisUSB> I am experimenting with libusb to connect with gadget zero on beagleboard. My application tries to send out, and receive the same via loopback. a packet is sent out from the host, but the device doesnt answer.[ 6248.562896] zero gadget: high speed config #2: loopback [ 6248.568847] zero gadget: can't loop ep1out to ep1in: -22
  • [12:23:23] <chrisUSB> what could it be?
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  • [12:55:51] <b7500af1> anyone out there?
  • [12:55:55] <b7500af1> cip
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  • [13:01:28] <chrisUSB> no one that answers *g
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  • [13:11:14] <av500> mru: ff bb vw is in jkridner esc slides!
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  • [13:12:02] <jkridner1> is that ok?
  • [13:12:05] <av500> sure
  • [13:12:12] <av500> gm btw :)
  • [13:12:55] <mru> av500: no, it's still here
  • [13:13:07] <av500> mru: its the fosdem one!
  • [13:13:44] <av500> jkridner1: I like the "not do you homework" remark :)
  • [13:13:47] <av500> +r
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  • [13:13:53] <jkridner1> :)
  • [13:13:57] <mru> av500: where are these?
  • [13:14:04] <jkridner1> http://beagleboard.org/esc
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  • [13:32:22] <chrisUSB> no one here that has worked with gadgetfs on the beagleboard?
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  • [13:40:56] <b7500af1> complete newbie here, looking for a little help if anyone has a spare moment.
  • [13:41:55] <koen> good morning all
  • [13:42:06] <av500> koen: gm
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  • [13:42:18] <koen> hey av500
  • [13:42:34] <av500> yes, it was early this morning...
  • [13:42:40] <av500> 3h sleep...
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  • [13:42:44] <koen> :)
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  • [13:43:07] <koen> I did about 4 hours, then the sunlight woke me
  • [13:43:20] <franktango> koen: hi, still at LinuxTag?
  • [13:43:41] <koen> no, I'm back home now
  • [13:43:49] <koen> seb and thomas are there now
  • [13:44:51] <franktango> koen: I wonder if you have a USB webcam module (GSPCA/SN9C20x) for the LinuxTag Beagle kernel lying around?
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  • [13:46:03] <franktango> my Angstroem dev environment is totally outdated and I couldn't find a fast way to rebuild the kernel with just a few additional modules :-(
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  • [13:46:30] <koen> franktango: try the 2.6.32 modules.tgz from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  • [13:46:51] * koen makes a note that his uvc webcam is still at linuxtag :)
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  • [13:47:21] <av500> koen: write it off and order a new/better one...
  • [13:49:44] <franktango> koen: thanks, this also contains gspca_main.ko only. Lots of other gspca_xxx but not the SN9C20x. Never mind...
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  • [13:58:08] <sakoman> koen: have you had any font/crashing issues with recent enlightenment builds?
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  • [14:02:37] <koen> sakoman: yes
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  • [14:02:59] <chrisUSB> koen: hi, you replied on a qeustion from me in the group; may i ask some questions regarding gadgetfs
  • [14:03:06] <chrisUSB> ?
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  • [14:14:54] <b7500af1> question: hello, I'm having a bit of trouble with a first time booting of my beagle.. anyone have time to help the new guy?
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  • [14:15:33] <av500> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners
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  • [14:17:36] <b7500af1> hmm, indeed. I'm afraid I've read so many of these beginners websites, I can hardly keep straight in my head what is the truth and what is outdated info.
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  • [14:18:00] <av500> you could cross ref with your onw experience...
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  • [14:18:27] <b7500af1> I've followed those instructions to the letter.. and have not met with success.
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  • [14:28:28] <gst-kaps> my ethernet gets disconnected everytime I run a gst-launch pipeline ?
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  • [14:29:08] <av500> hmm
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  • [14:29:35] <av500> [11:47] <ankit82> Hi I am using the customized OMAP3 board, it has the video input & USB wifi connectivity. but some how while running the live tv input USB wifi stops working
  • [14:29:47] * av500 sees a pattern
  • [14:30:02] <djlewis> yep
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  • [14:31:33] <gst-kaps> av500: any hints ?
  • [14:31:45] <av500> sorry no
  • [14:32:10] <gst-kaps> djlewis:for you it works perfectly ?
  • [14:32:35] <djlewis> gst-kaps: which BB and which usb port?
  • [14:32:47] <djlewis> of course, for me everything works perfectly
  • [14:32:52] <djlewis> :)
  • [14:32:57] <gst-kaps> heheh
  • [14:33:15] <av500> gst-kaps: how do you power the BB?
  • [14:33:17] <gst-kaps> djlewis: C3
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  • [14:33:30] <djlewis> and port
  • [14:33:33] <gst-kaps> av500: using a power code
  • [14:33:44] <gst-kaps> djlewis:USB port
  • [14:33:45] <av500> ?
  • [14:33:56] <djlewis> OK, otg ot EHCI?
  • [14:33:58] <av500> gst-kaps: which usb port?
  • [14:34:14] <djlewis> or
  • [14:34:37] <djlewis> hmmm
  • [14:34:51] <av500> gst-kaps: how do you power the BB?
  • [14:35:05] <djlewis> av500: with a ower cord :)
  • [14:35:08] <djlewis> power
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  • [14:36:30] <djlewis> gst-kaps: the tiny jack next to power in is otg, the big USB near SD is EHCI
  • [14:36:50] <av500> gst-kaps: pastebin the log when it fails
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  • [14:37:35] <djlewis> av500: didn't you travel to ine of the shows this week?
  • [14:37:41] <djlewis> s/ine/one
  • [14:37:54] <av500> djlewis: yup, came back this morning
  • [14:38:10] <djlewis> ok, I read bout short sleep period
  • [14:38:19] <djlewis> enjoy the show?
  • [14:38:23] <av500> yeah
  • [14:38:31] <av500> theres some links in the backlog...
  • [14:38:42] <djlewis> i'll check, tnx
  • [14:38:46] <av500> just a sec...
  • [14:40:59] <dm8tbr> how's the wall getting back to you this time?
  • [14:41:02] <av500> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsqkVowgHuI
  • [14:41:08] <av500> dm8tbr: no idea yet
  • [14:41:19] <av500> no hurry either
  • [14:41:42] <dm8tbr> ask grond he'll enjoy storing it ;)
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  • [14:42:17] <av500> dm8tbr: storing is solved
  • [14:42:34] <djlewis> Yes, I saw this one earlier, nice.
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  • [14:44:03] <koen> av500 is even more famous now that linux mag has interviewed him
  • [14:44:28] <gst-kaps> av500: which logs you mean, dmesg ?
  • [14:44:28] <djlewis> sounds like a 'must read' :)
  • [14:44:37] <av500> yup
  • [14:44:52] <gst-kaps> djlewis:I am using EHCI port
  • [14:45:38] <djlewis> gst-kaps: a known issue with <Rev C4
  • [14:46:19] <gst-kaps> djlewis: ah damm, so its board issue, rather anything else ?
  • [14:46:27] <djlewis> this one shows a really good frame rate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pwUdRKllo0&feature=related
  • [14:46:41] <gst-kaps> djlewis: any fix for the same ?
  • [14:47:02] <djlewis> gst-kaps: we that ahve C3 and below are known to suffer it.
  • [14:47:21] <djlewis> Yes, maybe, google it, there is a cap add on
  • [14:47:34] <djlewis> works or helps some but not al.
  • [14:47:36] <djlewis> all
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  • [14:47:58] <gst-kaps> djlewis:ah thanks
  • [14:48:55] <djlewis> and like av500 was trying to find out, what is your power source? power cord id not an answer
  • [14:49:03] <djlewis> s/id/is
  • [14:49:06] <sakoman> koen: have you determined the cause of the e17 issues? Don't want to duplicate work you've already done :-)
  • [14:49:22] <djlewis> I hear hope in sakoman voice
  • [14:50:07] <koen> sakoman: I suspect the new neon stuff, but I haven't looked into it due to being at linuxtag
  • [14:50:23] <b7500af1> Question: I've got a SD card in a C3, when I give the mmc init command, instead of getting "mmc1 is available" I get, "Usage: mmcinit - init mmc card". Which is the same that I get if I don't have a card. I've followed all the SD card formating instructions on the newbie pages, so I think the card is ok.
  • [14:51:24] <koen> sounds like an oooooold uboot
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  • [14:52:12] <b7500af1> feb 2009
  • [14:52:17] <av500> =old
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  • [14:52:22] <av500> its june 2010
  • [14:52:26] <av500> at least here
  • [14:53:18] <b7500af1> well, cool... like I said, I've been following the newbie guide pages to the letter.. so, that's what i'm getting.
  • [14:53:24] <koen> sakoman: I talked to martin and he isn't seeing it on armv4t, armv5te
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  • [14:53:57] <koen> sakoman: I think your best bet is to send a screenshot of teh corruption to the enlightenment-devel list, they are gearing up for a release AIUI
  • [14:56:42] <sakoman> koen: thanks for the pointer
  • [14:58:24] <sakoman> I would have guessed that raster would have noticed this!
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  • [15:26:58] <b7500af1> Question: I've got a mmc with the latest u-boot, but it hangs after saying "IC2 ready", which should mean that i need a newer x-loader.. so, I have MLO on the MMC but it doesn't load from the card. Is there a way that I can for the x-loader to load from the mmc, or update the NAND x-loader (if I can't get to the mmc with the old NAND u-boot).
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  • [15:29:50] <b7500af1> perhaps, I can use an older u-boot.. which won't hang?
  • [15:30:13] <b7500af1> enough to update the x-loader, then update the u-boot again?
  • [15:31:12] <|nfecteD> b7500af1: i think holding the "user" button and resetting bypasses the NAND
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  • [15:33:12] <b7500af1> |nfected: true.. and that works, when loading the u-boot from the mmc with the old x-loader, it hangs up the board. I saw a post though, that says the newer x-loaders wouldn't have that problem, but I can't figure how to load a new x-loader, if I can't get past the startup (and can't use the u-boot on the NAND).
  • [15:34:32] <|nfecteD> damn... i was sure it used the xloader from the MMC with user held... hmm... what about that "special" MLO file? tried that?
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  • [15:35:39] <|nfecteD> the one(s) from the beagle recovery page
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  • [15:38:14] <b7500af1> I haven't tried that
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  • [15:39:25] <|nfecteD> b7500af1: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardRecovery
  • [15:39:30] <|nfecteD> its in there somewhere
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  • [15:40:01] <|nfecteD> but if you need the C4 version let me know... its on another page somewhere
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  • [15:43:39] <b7500af1> ahh thank you
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  • [15:53:52] <b7500af1> no dice on that special MLO.. I'm not sure I completely understand why, but u-boot loads from the card fine. But the MLO (x-loader) still loads from the NAND as far as I can tell (when I hold the user button).
  • [15:57:04] <b7500af1> is there an archive of old u-boot.bin's
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  • [16:03:34] <|nfecteD> b7500af1: i think one of the veterans have to help you out there :/
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  • [16:03:44] <|nfecteD> but they seem to be sleeping right now =P
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  • [16:04:58] <Ceriand|work> b7500af1: the SD card has to be partitioned a certain way in order for everything to work correctly
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  • [16:06:41] <Ceriand|work> b7500af1: the fat partition needs to start on sector 63, and it needs to be marked at active/bootable in order for x-load to work off of the SD card
  • [16:07:17] <x^2> re
  • [16:07:18] <Ceriand|work> *marked as
  • [16:07:23] <b7500af1> wow, I've never seen that sector 63 bit before..
  • [16:10:19] <b7500af1> I have followed the numerous guides for setting up an SD card.. so I've got it marked bootable and such. and when you say 'start on sector 63' that just means that fat sector is the first one? with the MLO as the first file?
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  • [16:11:43] <Ceriand|work> it means that the fat partition must start on LBA sector 63
  • [16:12:06] <mru> there's a fix for that
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  • [16:16:17] <XorA> theres an app for that :-)
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  • [16:16:27] <Crofton> ok
  • [16:16:31] <Crofton> need to head for fome
  • [16:16:38] <mru> foam?
  • [16:16:41] <XorA> foam party :-)
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  • [16:16:50] <Ceriand|work> *techno music*
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  • [16:18:09] <mru> http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/x-load/commit/6d396ca8dd64e00c6ad4be5ac850e21863bc9272
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  • [16:19:33] <b7500af1> so, in fdisk when creating the fat partition, instead of making the start of the partition at the 1 cylinder, I make it at the 2nd?
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  • [16:21:45] <jacekowski> b7500af1: nope
  • [16:21:50] <jacekowski> b7500af1: read the instruction
  • [16:22:01] <jacekowski> it's little bit more complicated
  • [16:22:15] <xvff> when i connect my board to the serial port, during loading of U-Boot from nand, I get the warning: *** Warning - bad CRC or NAND, using default environment. Does anyone know why?
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  • [16:22:51] <Ceriand|work> xvff: just means that you haven't saved any environment variables
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  • [16:23:20] <xvff> ceriandlwork: thanks
  • [16:23:26] <b7500af1> jacekowski: which instruction? I've read all the newbie guides, and so far I haven't seen any of them that tell me to create the partition at a location other than the first cyl.
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  • [16:24:46] <jacekowski> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners#SD_card_setup
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  • [16:26:36] <b7500af1> yeah, i've used that. Using all of those settings, they start the partition on the default, first, cyl.. as I have done. So, maybe I'm good with that aspect.
  • [16:26:54] <jacekowski> size of cylinder is important
  • [16:28:35] <Ceriand|work> if you're using fdisk, you can also use the -u option and it'll use LBA sectors instead of CHS addressing
  • [16:29:44] <Ceriand|work> at the very least, you can use fdisk -lh /dev/<sd card dev here> to print the partition table in LBA
  • [16:29:57] <b7500af1> i used that -u option.. and verified that the starting sector is 63
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  • [16:33:13] <b7500af1> it is still important for the MLO file to be in the front of the partition, (which we achieve by copying it's file first). Is there a way to check that it is in the right place?
  • [16:33:32] <Ceriand|work> it shouldn't really matter too much
  • [16:33:58] <Ceriand|work> when you boot make sure you press the user button before you press the reset button
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  • [16:38:58] <b7500af1> I've pressed and not-pressed the user button, both do exactly the same things.. which is they load the NAND x-loader, and then load u-boot from the mmc..
  • [16:39:10] <b7500af1> I must be doing something wrong with the MLO file..
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  • [16:42:57] <jacekowski> yes
  • [16:43:05] <jacekowski> mlo file has to be 1st file copied onto card
  • [16:43:11] <jacekowski> and onto fat16 fs
  • [16:43:14] <jacekowski> or fat32
  • [16:43:15] <jacekowski> hmm
  • [16:43:16] <jacekowski> fat32
  • [16:43:40] <jacekowski> so if you mount it using any graphical interface it's not going to work
  • [16:43:47] <jacekowski> as these ussualy create some files on fs
  • [16:44:01] <b7500af1> nah, i'm on ubuntu with fdisk
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  • [16:52:19] <koen> sakoman: it could be that our vfp fixup patches "break" the efl neon
  • [16:52:25] <koen> sakoman: it might be relying on the bug
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  • [16:52:42] <koen> sakoman: but that's just something I came up with at 1 am yesterday :)
  • [16:56:23] <mru> koen: what's the bug?
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  • [17:08:55] <xvff> Is Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.2 (Feb 19 2009 - 12:01:24) the current one?
  • [17:09:55] <Ceriand|work> don't think so
  • [17:10:34] <Ceriand|work> the one I'm using is 1.4.4
  • [17:11:18] <xvff> ok, thanks, do you know where to find the most recent one?
  • [17:13:20] <Ceriand|work> http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/x-load
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  • [17:23:05] <kmx> help - i killed my beagleboard. i did a "nand erase" and now it won't boot. i have an sd that i prepared with all of files to recover, but pressing the user button while powering isn't doing anything
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  • [17:23:47] <kmx> i see some garbage on the serial console with what looks like "40W", but nothing else
  • [17:24:18] <Ceriand|work> kmx: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners#SD_card_setup
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  • [17:26:54] <koen> mru: the floating point signal handler thing
  • [17:27:30] <koen> mru: http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux/commit/d3c14324b23c6cef8452a9a6037b6ec2a6f07d6e and http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux/commit/59c9e3b77e82affd2ab0233af06a47473f991996
  • [17:30:15] <qwert> Hi there, I tried to enable SDIO port on zippy2 using the kernel 2.6.34, but the SDIO port is not usable. What config file I should use to compile kernel?
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  • [17:50:38] <koen> qwert: why not try the standard 2.6.32 beagle kernel first?
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  • [17:57:13] <_av500_> kmx: dont panic
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  • [18:01:43] <qwert> koen, do you mean the one from kernel.org, or from git?
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  • [18:08:09] <qwert> where to get the startn2.6.32 beagle kernel?
  • [18:08:26] <qwert> where to get the standard 2.6.32 beagle kernel?
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  • [18:14:38] <koen> qwert: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
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  • [18:17:48] <qwert> for pre-built image, I can make zippy work. But I need to build kernel by my self in order to turn on some features.
  • [18:18:37] <qwert> the problem is the kernel I built does not work --- SDIO on Zippy2 does not work. thanks koen.
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  • [18:37:06] <xvff> I am new and want to learn about linux driver development, can anyone suggest a good source please?
  • [18:40:01] <ds2> morning
  • [18:40:08] <ds2> xvff: look at the sources
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  • [18:45:11] <xvff> ds2: which sources?
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  • [18:45:54] <Ceriand|work> xvff: mainly for x86 but still useful: http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
  • [18:46:36] <ds2> xvff: the kernel sources
  • [18:46:51] <xvff> ok
  • [18:47:32] <xvff> the thing that i really want to see is the C programs and most of the stuff i get on the web are the compiled files
  • [18:47:40] <qwert> I got kernel from this link: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary, how to make second MMC port, which is on zippy2, to work?
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  • [19:20:06] <djlewis_> xvff look for the dev files for your drivers
  • [19:20:54] <ds2> djlewis: aren't you suppose to be underwater based on the news reports?
  • [19:21:31] <djlewis_> man, that is bad news. One of those small, small rivers that rises fast from heavy rain.
  • [19:21:54] <djlewis_> might be 10ft wide and 4ft deep normally.
  • [19:21:56] <ds2> but its better then the mississippi rising fast
  • [19:25:32] <djlewis_> or the Arkansas
  • [19:26:22] <|nfecteD> is e17 fixed in angstrom yet? or is it still b0rked
  • [19:26:26] <|nfecteD> if that was even the problem
  • [19:26:38] <|nfecteD> font corruption and random crashes and such
  • [19:36:05] <sakoman> |nfecteD: still b0rked
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  • [20:17:09] <bobkatzz> whew! what a month(s)
  • [20:18:13] <bobkatzz> and the result of multiple trips across the country - Hamvention, etc.? The Brick gets Wired!! - http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/06/beagleboard/2
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  • [20:19:31] <bobkatzz> Nice series on the BeagleBoard by our (now) favorite gopi girl - Priya Ganatpati - Great job Priya!!
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  • [20:21:21] <bobkatzz> tried to send out notices to Crofton and jkridner1 but did have your emails - thought I did please make sure you get them to me so I can keep you in the loop - more later - gotta fly - be good Beaglers! B^)
  • [20:21:44] <bobkatzz> s/did/didn't heh
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  • [20:23:14] <bobkatzz> oh my email is kc4nyk(at)rarcpio.net < - - - - Crofton|work, jkridner1
  • [20:23:17] <bobkatzz> bye
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  • [21:13:39] <cbrake> sakoman: have you had a LCD working with your 2.6.34 kernel yet (overo) ?
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  • [21:20:25] <sakoman> cbrake: I haven't, but one of the Gumstix engineers says it works for him
  • [21:20:51] <sakoman> are you having trouble?
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  • [21:25:30] <cbrake> sakoman: not seeing any signals wiggle on the interface
  • [21:26:09] <cbrake> sakoman: perhaps some of my changes messed something up, although they work fine in 2.6.32
  • [21:26:17] <cbrake> sakoman: thanks for the data point -- I'll keep digging
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  • [21:46:26] <cbrake> sakoman: just tried your omap3-2.6.34 with defconfig from the OE tree, and no lcd43
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  • [21:48:24] <cbrake> sakoman: perhaps I'll try your pre-build images next ...
  • [21:48:28] <cbrake> sakoman: just now saw them
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  • [21:51:03] <cbrake> nope, perhaps I need to update uboot ...
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  • [21:59:48] <sakoman> cbrake: I'll try here
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  • [22:04:53] <ds2> the 2.6.34 kernel has weird stuff wrt to the LCD
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  • [22:07:11] <emeb> weird how?
  • [22:08:26] <sakoman> cbrake: not working here either
  • [22:09:03] <cbrake> sakoman: running u-boot U-Boot 2009.11-00389-g92222b9 (Jun 11 2010 - 18:03:02)
  • [22:09:19] <cbrake> sakoman: if I use the dvi display setting, I see something on the display -- just like old times
  • [22:09:34] <sakoman> cbrake: not too likely that u-boot is the issue
  • [22:09:48] <cbrake> sakoman: once I change to lcd43, then nothing
  • [22:10:40] <cbrake> sakoman: in dvi mode, I see about 1/4 of the screen
  • [22:11:04] * cbrake looks at the display setup for other platforms ...
  • [22:11:08] <sakoman> right -- so it is likely something in the lcd panel driver
  • [22:12:51] <sakoman> or perhaps one of the changes for 36/37xx broke it
  • [22:13:47] <sakoman> you might try building with the commit just prior to Kishore's OMAP3630 DSS2 patch
  • [22:14:02] <sakoman> I'll try to find some time to look at it this weekend
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  • [22:21:08] <ds2> sakoman: I suspect I will be looking at the same thing this weekend
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  • [22:51:19] <sakoman> ds2: let us know if you find the issue!
  • [22:53:05] <ds2> sakoman: sure... I did check the obvious last night before I dozed off
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  • [22:53:30] <ds2> FWIW, it is calling the enable functions to turn on the LCD and backlight but video is not coming out
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  • [23:13:10] <flaco> hi all... where can I find documentation to use a usb monitor with the beagleboard?
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