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  • [02:21:19] <Madrang> Hi.
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  • [03:47:34] <emeb> bah! forgot to hookup I2C2 in my kernel...
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  • [04:21:03] <jhulst> Hi All, I'm looking into purchasing a BB and just saw that the XM announcement from early this year. Any information on release date and price? (trying to decide if I should wait or not)
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  • [07:18:21] <_av500_> jhulst: no release date yet
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  • [11:03:56] <steven_bob> hi i am to buy a power supply for my bb what power rating should it have?
  • [11:05:49] <steven_bob> anyone?
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  • [11:50:25] <pacopepe> hello, i have angstrom running in my BB. I ahve a problem with the screen resolution. I can't change it. It's in 640x480 i think
  • [11:50:53] <pacopepe> could someone help me??
  • [11:52:09] <pacopepe> ...
  • [11:52:11] <pacopepe> ..
  • [11:52:12] <pacopepe> .
  • [11:52:15] <pacopepe> :(
  • [11:53:13] <dm8tbr> patience is an virtue
  • [11:56:10] <dm8tbr> I don't have an bb but I think it's an kernel parameter
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  • [14:13:41] <emeb> fwiw - added i2c2 to my kernel & used writeprom.sh to set the board ID - worked fine & was correctly identified in the latest u-boot.
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  • [14:15:52] <koen> emeb: sweet
  • [14:16:32] <koen> emeb: if you have any feedback, don't hesitate to mail it to the beagle list, the current expansion board stuff is still a proof of concept
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  • [14:17:29] <emeb> yep. Now need to add the I2C level shifter, programmable osc & port expander & test. After that, add the bidir buffers & FPGA & test. Fingers crossed...
  • [14:17:49] <emeb> koen: OK - I'll keep that in mind. so far so good.
  • [14:24:20] <koen> emeb: I'm collecting my experiences with the trainer board here: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/cms/tincantools-beagleboard-trainer-expansion-board
  • [14:24:59] <koen> uboot helped me to debug the connecter not being pressed in enough :)
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  • [14:26:00] <emeb> Nice videos. Handy that u-boot reports expansion stuff early.
  • [14:26:56] * koen is new to all this hardware stuff
  • [14:27:02] <koen> even if I am supposed to be an EE :)
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  • [14:27:50] <emeb> We should all learn it eventually...
  • [14:29:57] <emeb> A piece of sticky tape on the stepper shaft - that's pretty much a universal debug tool for electromech.
  • [14:32:08] <dm8tbr> sharks with lasers are too expensive I guess to stick on?
  • [14:33:08] <emeb> that's _fricken_ lasers.
  • [14:33:41] <dm8tbr> sorry I forgot... :(
  • [14:34:05] <emeb> np - I was corrected on that here a while back too. :)
  • [14:34:11] <dm8tbr> :)
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  • [14:39:13] <emeb> progress: http://imagebin.org/96110
  • [14:39:30] <emeb> time to warm up the soldering iron again...
  • [14:40:08] <dm8tbr> step by step assembly
  • [14:41:35] <emeb> best way to avoid letting the smoke out.
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  • [15:06:40] * mru curses nvidia
  • [15:06:43] * mru curses nvidia again
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  • [15:08:20] <koen> mru: for tegra2?
  • [15:08:31] <mru> of course
  • [15:09:33] <mru> I can choose, modern kernel features xor drivers
  • [15:11:24] <emeb> what do you need fancy-pants modern kernel features for?
  • [15:11:30] <mru> oprofile
  • [15:11:40] <janneg> choose modern kernel features, video accel have only openmax drivers
  • [15:11:54] <mru> I don't care about video stuff right now
  • [15:12:03] <mru> the .34 branch doesn't even have usb
  • [15:12:09] <mru> which means I don't get network
  • [15:12:35] <emeb> ouch!
  • [15:12:48] <mru> I get rs232
  • [15:13:38] <janneg> how old is the nvidia kernel? .29
  • [15:13:43] <mru> yes, .29
  • [15:13:49] <dm8tbr> mru: use SLIP! ;)
  • [15:13:52] * dm8tbr runs
  • [15:13:54] <mru> with broken oprofile
  • [15:14:14] <mru> damn, dm8tbr gave me the slip
  • [15:14:40] <dm8tbr> or plain PPP on the terminal
  • [15:14:57] * koen mentions that 'slip' is a piece of underwear in dutch
  • [15:15:14] <emeb> ditto english
  • [15:15:16] <dm8tbr> not only in dutch, yeah
  • [15:15:31] <mru> slip means many things in english
  • [15:15:43] <emeb> was it a nice silky slip?
  • [15:16:36] * dm8tbr now seriously starts to wonder if somebody seriously used SLIP in the last 5 years for a new project
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  • [15:19:14] <koen> I still use PPP, but that's for VPNs
  • [15:19:43] <dm8tbr> yeah, I also have one PPP-over-SSH link running
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  • [16:16:40] <emeb> sweet - i2c port expander works.
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  • [16:23:41] <emeb> ...and i2c prog. clock oscillator works.
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  • [16:28:51] <prpplague> emeb: whatcha working on?
  • [16:29:49] <emeb> prpplague: bringing up the FPGA board.
  • [16:30:01] <prpplague> emeb: ahh dandy
  • [16:30:06] <emeb> http://imagebin.org/96110
  • [16:30:50] <emeb> so far so good.
  • [16:31:05] <prpplague> emeb: lovely
  • [16:31:37] <emeb> prpplague: thanks. Hope it works...
  • [16:31:54] <prpplague> emeb: did you and rusty work out a deal?
  • [16:32:16] <emeb> prpplague: I sent him some details on the board but haven't heard back yet.
  • [16:32:36] <prpplague> emeb: i'll ping him later today
  • [16:32:51] <emeb> prpplague: cool.
  • [16:33:24] <prpplague> emeb: iirc he was definetly interested, he just was waiting for the board bringup
  • [16:34:09] <emeb> prpplague: wise strategy. Lots of vaporware out there.
  • [16:34:33] <_av500_> emeb: dont make the vapor escape the chip
  • [16:34:48] <emeb> _av500_: trying to avoid it.
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  • [16:34:58] <emeb> no sign of it yet.
  • [16:36:25] <_av500_> mru: .29 is too old for oprofile?
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  • [16:36:40] <mru> _av500_: on cortex-a9, yes
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  • [16:36:55] <_av500_> ah right a9..
  • [16:37:38] <prpplague> mru: got an A9?
  • [16:37:50] <mru> prpplague: tegra2
  • [16:38:00] <prpplague> mru: oh interesting
  • [16:38:01] <mru> so I have an a9 but I can't use it
  • [16:38:10] <prpplague> mru: what is your impression of it?
  • [16:38:18] <mru> that nvidia sucks
  • [16:38:23] <_av500_> it draws current
  • [16:38:30] <mru> it runs hot for sure
  • [16:38:48] <mru> could be lack of pm in kernel of course
  • [16:39:00] <emeb> minimum requirements for electrical equipment: occupies space and consumes power.
  • [16:39:17] <mru> emeb: some electrical equipment produces power
  • [16:39:29] <_av500_> from magic smoke?
  • [16:39:35] <woglinde> gpu produces a lot of heat
  • [16:39:44] <emeb> young man - in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics.
  • [16:41:51] * koen gets of emebs lawn
  • [16:42:16] <_av500_> the lawn of thermodynamics?
  • [16:42:34] <emeb> there's a simpsons quote for everything.
  • [16:43:38] * koen can't work up the motivation to write the AJAX portion of his stepper project
  • [16:44:46] <woglinde> hm get anyone the latest psp kernel from oe/angstroem booted on rev b4 board?
  • [16:44:55] <emeb> koen: sounds tedious. I once mounted a USB webcam on a stepper to allow panning...
  • [16:44:56] <woglinde> I am getting a segfault
  • [16:45:14] <koen> woglinde: it works on a b6 board here
  • [16:45:32] <woglinde> hm
  • [16:46:49] <woglinde> kerneloutput -> http://pastebin.org/210743
  • [16:47:33] <woglinde> uboot didnt worked either
  • [16:48:02] <_av500_> crashes in musb
  • [16:48:12] <_av500_> why am i not surprised
  • [16:48:29] <emeb> which rev?
  • [16:48:36] <woglinde> rev b4
  • [16:48:48] <_av500_> woglinde: what is connected to the otg?
  • [16:49:07] <woglinde> usbhub
  • [16:49:09] <woglinde> hm
  • [16:49:18] <woglinde> but other kernels worked
  • [16:49:40] <koen> how are you powering it?
  • [16:49:52] <woglinde> the hub?
  • [16:49:57] <emeb> bingo!
  • [16:50:14] <woglinde> host system only
  • [16:50:24] <woglinde> will test it with external power
  • [16:50:27] <_av500_> yes
  • [16:50:54] * koen is still wondering what changed in the kernel, the old ones didn't have PM, the new one does and draws too much power
  • [16:51:07] <_av500_> seems so
  • [16:51:34] <woglinde> hm no
  • [16:51:37] <emeb> you missed the "OMAP_DRAW_MORE_POWER" config option
  • [16:51:37] <woglinde> didnt worked
  • [16:52:04] <_av500_> woglinde: with no usb connection?
  • [16:52:19] <woglinde> hm oh
  • [16:52:25] <woglinde> I powered the hub
  • [16:52:38] <woglinde> okay
  • [16:52:49] <_av500_> ?
  • [16:53:00] <woglinde> I have external powerplug for the board
  • [16:53:04] <_av500_> ok
  • [16:53:05] <woglinde> args
  • [16:53:07] <woglinde> +no
  • [16:53:13] <_av500_> argv?
  • [16:53:47] <woglinde> so I could try the kernel without pm?
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  • [16:54:09] <_av500_> can you unplugotg completely
  • [16:54:14] <_av500_> and try?
  • [16:54:19] <woglinde> ????
  • [16:54:36] <woglinde> as I said I have no external powerplug for the board
  • [16:54:37] <_av500_> use only 5V in, no usb
  • [16:54:41] <_av500_> ah
  • [16:54:49] <woglinde> sorry
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  • [16:56:17] <_av500_> ive seen this musb irq crash quite a few times in the past weeks
  • [16:56:23] <_av500_> here in irc
  • [16:56:55] <woglinde> yeah latest psp 2.6.32 kernel from angstroem
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  • [17:04:15] <aholler> woglinde: thats a kernel issue, you could try the ubuntu kernel, worked here
  • [17:05:09] <aholler> hmm, but u-boot worked here every time
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  • [17:07:22] <woglinde> aholler the latest generated from oe/angstroem not
  • [17:07:34] <woglinde> maybee same problem too
  • [17:07:49] <woglinde> aholler but I liked to test the dsp stuff
  • [17:08:00] <woglinde> dont know if it will work with ubunut kernel
  • [17:08:14] <rcn-ee> woglinde, not yet... ;)
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  • [18:20:18] <Drumpi> hello
  • [18:23:28] <Drumpi> why i cna't connect my beagle to Linux by USB
  • [18:23:30] <Drumpi> ???
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  • [18:39:55] <mru> maybe because you don't have a usb cable
  • [18:40:00] <mru> just guessing...
  • [18:50:55] <Drumpi> I got an USB cable, and a USB0 interface on BB, but Linux don't detect USB net
  • [18:52:57] <mru> do you have the cdc_ether driver?
  • [18:53:55] <koen> g_ether, g_cdc, g_eem, etc
  • [18:55:11] <mru> he says he has the interface on the bb
  • [18:55:20] <mru> so his pc might be missing cdc_ether
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  • [19:08:59] <koen> ah, right
  • [19:09:02] <Drumpi> i got the last demo image for BB. I don't know what is happening because the diagnostic image works fine (for BB and Linux, i can conect and telnet and everything)
  • [19:09:06] * koen fails at basic reading
  • [19:09:21] <koen> maybe missing rndis?
  • [19:09:47] <Drumpi> what did i say?
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  • [19:38:57] <koen> almost 40k builds on narcissus since it started logging (january 2009)
  • [19:40:12] <buZz> nais :)
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  • [22:22:39] <i0h> hi
  • [22:23:06] <mru> lo
  • [22:23:15] <i0h> :)
  • [22:23:52] <i0h> i'm trying to run linux on devkit8000 (bb clone) but i can't make the kernel boot.
  • [22:24:10] <mru> try one of koen's kernels
  • [22:24:17] <i0h> koen's?
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  • [22:24:30] <i0h> may i have a link? :)
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  • [22:25:29] <tomatoes7> anyone use c# on the beagle?
  • [22:25:42] <i0h> i've tried linux-omap and devkit8000 kernel from gitorious.org/devkit8000
  • [22:25:54] <mru> angstrom
  • [22:26:08] <mru> there are prebuilt kernels you can download
  • [22:26:18] <mru> if you have trouble building your own, try one of those
  • [22:26:19] <i0h> i want to build one myself
  • [22:26:44] <i0h> i just can't find the problem
  • [22:26:46] <mru> but there are a million ways you can do that wrong
  • [22:26:55] <mru> find a readymade one that works
  • [22:27:07] <mru> then build your own with the same configuration
  • [22:27:16] <mru> when that works, you can start tweaking the settings
  • [22:27:35] <i0h> i'm building with one of the default configs
  • [22:27:44] <i0h> devkit8000_defconfig to be exact
  • [22:27:53] <tomatoes7> i guess there's not .NET on the beagle
  • [22:28:19] <i0h> tomatoes7: try mono
  • [22:28:29] <mru> mono should run on arm
  • [22:28:33] <mru> don't know how well
  • [22:28:57] <i0h> afair it has no x86 assembly code and other dirty hacks so it has to run
  • [22:29:22] <mru> it has a jit compiler
  • [22:29:30] <_av500_> mru: mono on wince seems to be used
  • [22:29:31] <mru> so it will only work if it has an arm backend
  • [22:29:33] <mru> but it does
  • [22:29:54] <_av500_> err
  • [22:29:59] <_av500_> make that .net
  • [22:30:02] <i0h> can't it work just as a bytecode interpreter?
  • [22:30:02] <_av500_> i guess
  • [22:30:28] <i0h> without jist
  • [22:30:30] <i0h> *jit
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  • [22:43:49] <tomatoes7> is there a way to monitor how much resources are being used by apps running on the beagleboard?
  • [22:46:14] <mru> top?
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  • [23:01:04] <i0h> well.. there is no kernel for devkit8000 in angstrom. i don't think generic omap kernel would boot.
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  • [23:03:13] <mru> i0h: try beagle
  • [23:03:26] <mru> if it's a beagle clone that should be close enough at least to boot the kernel
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  • [23:04:01] <i0h> huh.. i'll try
  • [23:06:38] <i0h> does not work either :(
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  • [23:09:11] <i0h> the only kernel that works is the kernel from embest. but.. well.. i saw the patches the had appied. make me unsee that :(
  • [23:09:40] <i0h> *they had
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  • [23:30:45] <cwillu_at_work> i0h, what does it die on?
  • [23:32:10] <i0h> cwillu_at_work: it dies right after uboot
  • [23:32:19] <cwillu_at_work> i0h, with what sort of message?
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  • [23:32:24] <i0h> nothing
  • [23:32:26] <cwillu_at_work> can you pastebin the output?
  • [23:32:29] <i0h> kernel just does not work
  • [23:32:36] <i0h> hold on
  • [23:33:49] <i0h> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/211737/
  • [23:34:34] <cwillu_at_work> that's a downloaded binary uImage?
  • [23:34:59] <cwillu_at_work> can you do a printenv in uboot and pastebin that?
  • [23:35:16] <i0h> nope. thats the one i've built. but everything's the same with the downloaded one.
  • [23:35:41] <i0h> i'm building a new one with a modified config.
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  • [23:36:25] <i0h> i've found something about LZO compression in the default one
  • [23:36:32] <i0h> guess uboot does not support that
  • [23:36:40] <cwillu_at_work> you're not using a compressed kernel anyway
  • [23:36:56] <cwillu_at_work> lzo compression in the crypto library? that should be unrelated
  • [23:37:15] <i0h> i can pastebin the config
  • [23:37:16] <cwillu_at_work> can you do that printenv thing, or are you compiling on the board right now?
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  • [23:41:44] <i0h> http://dpaste.com/192294/
  • [23:46:38] <i0h> maybe the problem is not in the kernel but in u-boot?
  • [23:47:04] <cwillu_at_work> possible, don't see anything conclusive though
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  • [23:51:30] <mru> i0h: can you pastebin what happens when you try to start the kernel somewhere else?
  • [23:51:39] <mru> that server ain't responding
  • [23:52:18] <i0h> http://dpaste.com/192296/
  • [23:52:40] <mru> and that's all?
  • [23:52:44] <i0h> yep
  • [23:52:51] <i0h> the board just hangs after that
  • [23:53:05] <mru> this the kernel you built?
  • [23:53:08] <i0h> yes
  • [23:53:24] <mru> turn on CONFIG_DEBUG_LL
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  • [23:53:37] <cwillu_at_work> heh: #pocoo: <EnTeQuAk> mitsuhiko: pocoo.org's down again
  • [23:53:50] <cwillu_at_work> way to break it