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  • [00:22:45] <mru> ?
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  • [00:29:48] <ds2> L-O folks visiting!
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  • [00:42:22] <ds2> they seem to be vanishing
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  • [02:51:45] <ppotera> NotZed: leaves turning colors yet?
  • [02:52:27] <ppotera> (guess he went outside :) )
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  • [03:49:18] <capslock> hey, I'm having trouble getting Debian (sid) working on my beagleboard. I've got everything installed following the page at elinux.org, but for some reason none of my USB devices work (keyboard, network, etc). Any ideas?
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  • [04:23:46] <rcn-ee> capslock, which kernel? and which u-boot?
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  • [06:53:02] <shankar_> is Cortex A8 L2 cache size is s/w programmable ?
  • [06:53:22] <av500> what does the documentation say?
  • [06:53:57] <shankar_> in TRM, i couldn't find any registers, but there is a line says configurable cache size
  • [06:54:31] <av500> you might want to look in the ARM A8 docs, not the omap TRM
  • [06:54:53] <shankar_> yep, i am refering to cortex A8 TRM
  • [06:56:27] <av500> I guess "configurable" here means configurable by the chip maker
  • [06:58:37] <shankar_> ok .. thanks
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  • [07:33:14] <neure> hi
  • [07:33:30] <neure> my display went black when i used cpu-freq-set
  • [07:33:34] <neure> is that normal?
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  • [07:40:54] <hrw> morning
  • [07:43:25] <neure> morning
  • [07:43:41] <neure> is cpu-freq-set setting affective over reboots?
  • [07:44:27] <neure> how can i setup my beagle so that it always boots from sdcard?
  • [07:47:09] <av500> wipe the nand
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  • [08:04:07] <neure> how do i do that?
  • [08:05:15] <av500> dont remember, google knows
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  • [08:07:13] <neure> looks like if i set cpu freq below 500 MHz, i need to kill xorg
  • [08:08:21] <av500> ?
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  • [08:09:03] <tomatoes7> i typed nand erase, and now my beagleboard wont boot :(
  • [08:09:16] <av500> boot from sd
  • [08:09:37] <tomatoes7> "Starting OS Bootloader..."
  • [08:09:45] <tomatoes7> this is all i see from the terminal
  • [08:10:10] <tomatoes7> i can't type anything in
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  • [08:10:52] <neure> did you keep down user button while you pressed reset?
  • [08:11:09] <tomatoes7> yeah
  • [08:11:35] <tomatoes7> with or without holding down the user button doesn't make a difference
  • [08:13:06] <neure> i dont have any ideas
  • [08:13:13] <av500> if you wiped the nand, it makes not diff of course
  • [08:13:49] <av500> tomatoes7: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners#SD_card_setup
  • [08:14:13] <neure> do you have a bootable sdcard?
  • [08:14:30] <neure> and is it in the mmc slot?
  • [08:14:54] <tomatoes7> yeah
  • [08:15:21] <tomatoes7> i just booted into angstrom and ubuntu, no problem....but then i tried to flash the nand for some misguided reason, and now i'm stuck...
  • [08:15:39] <neure> well thanks to you i wont try it myself
  • [08:16:06] <av500> tomatoes7: pressing the user button should bypass booting from nand
  • [08:16:11] <neure> i was just thinking maybe i should do it so this thing can be rebooted without keeping finger on the usre button
  • [08:16:33] <tomatoes7> av500, oh ok....
  • [08:16:33] <av500> neure: yes, if you wipe the flash
  • [08:16:47] <av500> wipe != flash
  • [08:17:08] <tomatoes7> !flash the flash
  • [08:17:49] <neure> av500, but tomatoes7 cant boot at all after doing that?
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  • [08:19:22] <tomatoes7> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevCValidationv3
  • [08:19:31] <tomatoes7> i'm following the above instructions....
  • [08:19:41] <tomatoes7> at the moment to fix issue
  • [08:20:12] <azariah2> I've followed http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevCValidationv3 and I get this, any ideas on how to proceed? http://pastebin.com/QwFUk8RL
  • [08:20:13] <av500> neure: people are succesfully booting from sdcard
  • [08:21:56] <tomatoes7> do i need x-loader if i'm using u-boot?
  • [08:26:48] <hrw> yes, you need
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  • [08:27:27] <tomatoes7> hmmm x-loader = MLO, that website says revC doesn't need MLO
  • [08:27:41] <tomatoes7> sorry for being a noob
  • [08:28:15] <hrw> tomatoes7: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ has fresh xloader + uboot
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  • [08:37:49] <ds2> flash wipe is prefectly safe
  • [08:38:28] <ds2> even blowing away bad block marker is mostly safe, though probally not the best of idea (normally)
  • [08:42:37] <azariah2> This is dmesg output for the error I posted above: http://pastebin.com/RNmaML7j
  • [08:43:05] <azariah2> for some reason the beagleboard disconnects when the kernel starts
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  • [08:48:13] <neure> hmm
  • [08:48:27] <neure> i havent succeeded changing sgx clock with devmem2 :/
  • [08:49:39] <neure> doesnt seem to affect performance at all
  • [08:49:40] <tomatoes7> config-2.6.32-r70+gitr7b8926aa626991fa087b00f6bbc1fb6b0e8269b0-beagleboard.config do i need this file?
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  • [08:54:51] <pam__> hi i am trying installing ubuntu on beagle board sdter copybi rootfs and runnung in terminal i get his
  • [08:54:56] <pam__> JFFS2 notice: (1) jffs2_build_xattr_subsystem: complete building xattr subsystem
  • [08:55:16] <pam__> VFS: Mounted root (jffs2 filesystem).
  • [08:55:44] <pam__> Warning: unable to open an initial console. Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel. can any 1 help me
  • [08:57:21] <pam__> on terminal
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  • [09:22:49] <XorA> pam__: Im going to guess you didnt get the filesystem copy right
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  • [09:31:55] <azariah2> Hmm, what can be wrong when a beagleboards hang right after it says I2C: Ready in u-boot ?
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  • [09:34:10] <hrw> azariah2: you need to flash newer MLO/X-loader
  • [09:34:44] <azariah2> hrw: k, thanks!
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  • [10:24:07] <tasslehoff> On my host I can use --chdir as an argument to start-stop-daemon, but the busybox-version in angstrom doesn't have this option. any other ways to accomplish the same thing?
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  • [10:30:08] <neure> can i get beagle easily to FWVGA (854?480) resolution?
  • [10:30:55] <re0x4> Hi. I have CodeSourcery and I'm trying to build net-snmp for beagleboard. For this I did ./configure --target=arm --with-cc=arm-none-linux-gnueabi. And then "make" without any CROSS_COMPILE options. Am I doing right?
  • [10:30:58] <re0x4> I often see the phrase "to build toolchain". Why it is needed to build toolchain if we use toolchain to build a program?
  • [10:31:46] <neure> you need to build the toolchain if you dont have suitable one available
  • [10:32:10] <neure> using codesourcery might work
  • [10:32:23] <neure> i prefer building natively, on beagleboard itself
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  • [10:41:40] <re0x4> neure what do you use as a native compiler on the beagle?
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  • [10:47:20] <neure> re0x4, opkg install gcc
  • [10:47:23] <neure> re0x4, gcc :)
  • [10:47:32] <re0x4> :)
  • [10:47:43] <neure> opkg install nano subversion gcc g++ make task-native-sdk libx11-dev
  • [10:47:48] <neure> stuff i installed
  • [10:47:51] <neure> i may have installed more
  • [10:48:05] <koen> neure: beagle can only use display widths dividable by 16
  • [10:48:15] <neure> koen, so.. ?
  • [10:48:34] <koen> 854 isn't
  • [10:48:36] <neure> 864 x then
  • [10:48:59] <koen> 864 would work
  • [10:48:59] <neure> i shall try setenv bootargs 'bootargs=omapfb.mode=dvi:864x480MR@60 console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootwait'
  • [10:49:03] <neure> should that be sufficient?
  • [10:49:15] <koen> why are you overriding bootargs?
  • [10:49:22] <koen> setting only dvimode should be enough
  • [10:49:22] <av500> neure: for what display?
  • [10:49:29] <neure> isnt that way to set the resolution
  • [10:49:48] <neure> i have some samsung dvi display connected to the hdmi output
  • [10:50:00] <av500> neure: url?
  • [10:50:11] <neure> hmm
  • [10:50:12] <neure> well
  • [10:50:18] <av500> model?
  • [10:50:20] <neure> do you think that resolution might not work
  • [10:50:35] <av500> depends on the display
  • [10:50:36] <neure> that would not be a native resolution for it
  • [10:50:43] <neure> so it would scale it, i think
  • [10:50:50] <neure> it does show 640x480 scaled
  • [10:51:21] <neure> so i dont see a problem why 864x480 wouldnt work if 640x480 works.. native resolution is 1680x1050
  • [10:51:22] <av500> so it is a 640x480 display?
  • [10:51:29] <neure> no, ^
  • [10:51:34] <av500> ah
  • [10:51:47] <av500> neure: lcd monitor do not accept random resolutions
  • [10:51:53] <neure> oh
  • [10:51:54] <av500> 640x480 is a std resolution
  • [10:52:01] <av500> 850x480 is not
  • [10:52:03] <re0x4> neure thx
  • [10:52:21] <av500> why do you need 854x480?
  • [10:52:37] <neure> well i want to try fwvga
  • [10:52:46] <av500> use a lrger one and live with black bars
  • [10:52:47] <neure> 640x480 is too low res for me
  • [10:53:01] <neure> but i guess 1680x1050 would be too high
  • [10:53:02] <neure> oh
  • [10:53:27] <neure> can i set this to use 1680x1050 resolution but with borders to get something like 864x480 with 1x1 pixels?
  • [10:53:39] <av500> define "set" :)
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  • [10:53:49] <neure> "get somehow working"
  • [10:54:01] <av500> for a certain value of "somehow", yes
  • [10:54:07] <neure> :D
  • [10:54:07] <hrw> I use 1280x800 on 20"
  • [10:54:12] <av500> the std setup will give you a framebuffer of the dvi res size
  • [10:54:24] <av500> so you need to hack it up to return a smaller size
  • [10:54:25] <hrw> and 1280x720 on 42" - why bother with smaller ones :D
  • [10:54:55] <av500> hrw: the idea is to get a 1:1 image of WVGA
  • [10:55:05] <neure> yeah that would be really nice
  • [10:55:14] <neure> so if you happen to know ways to get then, more than '
  • [10:55:22] <av500> hrw: as in simulate what it looks like on the phone on the dvi...
  • [10:55:23] <neure> somehow, highly appreciated..
  • [10:55:36] <hrw> av500: ah
  • [10:55:38] <neure> for that we'd need really high dpi displays .. :(
  • [10:55:44] <neure> i dont know *any*
  • [10:55:45] <neure> :(
  • [10:55:54] <av500> as 854x480 is your typical 800x480 display these days on mobile phones
  • [10:56:43] <av500> neure: there is no such code yet, you need to write it
  • [10:56:56] <neure> :/
  • [10:57:01] <neure> then it is not going to happen right away
  • [10:57:09] <av500> what are you running?
  • [10:57:12] <neure> i just tested the resolution with windows, and the screen supports it
  • [10:57:17] <av500> which one?
  • [10:57:27] <neure> 864x480
  • [10:57:39] <av500> you can set that in windows?
  • [10:57:52] <neure> yeah with nvidia control panel you can make custom resolutions
  • [10:57:56] <av500> ah
  • [10:58:09] <av500> well, then it should work from BB as well
  • [10:58:16] <neure> this is SyncMaster 227BW(Digital) on NVIDIA GeForce 9400M
  • [10:58:17] <neure> yeah
  • [10:58:26] <neure> i can try
  • [10:58:59] <neure> oh
  • [10:59:19] <neure> why does serial work at boot time but gets often garbaged when booted to linux?
  • [10:59:56] <neure> now it works again
  • [11:00:11] <neure> well it works a little and then it gets wrong again
  • [11:00:43] <neure> repeatedly trying to login fixes it after several tries
  • [11:01:10] <koen> update your kernel
  • [11:01:32] <neure> im living with the latest demo image..
  • [11:01:41] <neure> im not building anything of the system myself..
  • [11:01:44] <neure> yet
  • [11:01:56] <neure> maybe soon when i buy myself one :)
  • [11:02:15] <neure> is "omapfb.mode=dvi:854x480MR@60" good as bootarg?
  • [11:02:19] <neure> for latest demoimage ?
  • [11:02:26] <neure> i mean 864
  • [11:02:35] <neure> but in general the format?
  • [11:03:12] <av500> koen: cpuidle?
  • [11:03:26] <av500> koen: btw, xm is 512?
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  • [11:04:43] <neure> no, i didnt manage to change the resolution :/
  • [11:04:45] <NotZed> ram yes
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  • [11:06:33] <dcopeto> Hello!
  • [11:06:40] <neure> World!
  • [11:06:46] <dcopeto> :)
  • [11:09:10] <dcopeto> I have a custom board with batteries connected to the beagleboard through usb
  • [11:10:02] <dcopeto> I want to get the information on the state of my bateries available on angstrom
  • [11:10:11] <dcopeto> what should I do?
  • [11:10:52] <dcopeto> I mean, how to get them listed in such way as I have in my ubuntu laptop
  • [11:11:24] <dcopeto> so that I can access their info from the /proc/acpi or something custom added to it?
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  • [11:12:09] <koen> 12:48 < koen> setting only dvimode should be enough
  • [11:12:22] <koen> av500: yes, cpuidle, and yes, 512MB
  • [11:12:34] <dcopeto> I'm unexperienced with this and I'm having trouble connecting the custom hardware information to the system
  • [11:16:16] <av500> what custom hw?
  • [11:20:37] <dcopeto> I have a microcontroller communicating by usb with the beagle and controlling a couple of batteries
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  • [11:21:55] <dcopeto> what I don't get is how to create that hardware in the system so that I can get info from it just like when issuing a "cat /proc/something/info"
  • [11:22:23] <deepa__> after androidos porting how we interface rs232 gps reciver with beagle board
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  • [11:38:47] <neure> koen, what does 'setting only dvimode' mean?
  • [11:38:51] * neure is noob
  • [11:39:17] <NotZed> just set that variable
  • [11:39:28] <NotZed> the normal boot command uses a variable
  • [11:39:41] <NotZed> but if you've changed it/use an older uboot that isn't the case
  • [11:44:28] <neure> i try to set a variable already
  • [11:44:31] <neure> it doesnt work
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  • [11:44:44] <neure> bootargs=omapfb.mode=dvi:864x480MR@60
  • [11:44:56] <neure> sure i do something wrong..
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  • [11:45:10] <neure> hmm
  • [11:45:11] <NotZed> that isn't called 'dvimode'
  • [11:45:21] <NotZed> didn't he say 'dvimode', not 'bootargs'?
  • [11:45:29] <neure> okay
  • [11:45:51] <deepa__> what 's the problem u did 'nt answer to me
  • [11:46:04] <neure> setsetenv dvimode '864x480MR@60' ?
  • [11:46:12] <neure> oops just one set..
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  • [11:46:17] <neure> would that be it?
  • [11:46:44] <neure> deepa__, we didnt answer because.. we dont know?
  • [11:48:22] <NotZed> something like that, i have an older board and i've not been booting linux so it's all messed up anyway
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  • [11:49:00] <koen> if you want to be sure you're getting a clean env, do 'nand erase 260000 20000
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  • [11:49:02] <koen> '
  • [11:49:44] <mru> or get an xm, no nand to worry about :-)
  • [11:49:56] <neure> what is xm you keep talking about?
  • [11:51:00] <neure> bbl gotta reboot
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  • [11:51:10] <NotZed> i can see where gerald is coming from when he said it's save a lot of hassles with peoples broken settings/uboots
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  • [11:53:22] <jkridner> good morning all
  • [11:53:35] <topfs2> morning
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  • [11:54:51] <topfs2> ok if I PM you jkridner ?
  • [11:54:56] <mru> jkridner: who do we need to beat or bribe to get the xm data corruption solved?
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  • [11:54:57] <mobidev> hi to all
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  • [12:04:03] <neure> back.. so what is this xm?
  • [12:04:13] <koen> check the mailinglist
  • [12:04:25] <neure> im not on any mailinglist
  • [12:04:36] <av500> google beagleboard xm
  • [12:04:54] <koen> the beagle mailinglist is publically viewable and searchable
  • [12:05:04] <koen> but as av500 googling will also get you there
  • [12:05:32] <neure> ok so it is next gen bb
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  • [12:10:19] <neure> so what is the status of xm?
  • [12:10:39] <av500> it will be available eventually
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  • [12:10:50] <av500> maybe even before pandora
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  • [12:14:45] <neure> hmm
  • [12:14:51] <neure> pandora
  • [12:14:56] <neure> i thought it was years old :D
  • [12:15:10] <neure> looks like it has been slipping.. a lot
  • [12:15:54] <av500> not more than DNF
  • [12:16:44] <neure> that is not fair comparison :)
  • [12:16:50] <neure> comparing anything to dnf is unfair
  • [12:17:19] <neure> hmm, let's see.. elite 4..
  • [12:18:12] <mru> comparing to dnf is a bit like comparing to the nazis
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  • [12:24:30] <XorA> I heard DNF had been ported to pandora :-)
  • [12:24:47] <av500> ah, thats whats keeping them
  • [12:26:37] <ogra> pandora is the one thats supposed to come out bundled with duke nukem forever ?
  • [12:27:20] * ogra goes to order one then :)
  • [12:30:56] <btr_26> hi, I am trying to install phoneme-advanced-personal on beagleboard and encouter following error:
  • [12:31:01] <btr_26> root@beagleboard:/tirumal/armv7a# opkg install phoneme-advanced-personal_mr2b135 -r3.2.1_armv7a.ipk Installing phoneme-advanced-personal (mr2b135-r3.2.1) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for phoneme-advanced-personal: * libqt-mt3 (>= 3.3.7) *
  • [12:32:24] <btr_26> My aim is to have any one of the flavours of java stack on beagleboard cacao+OpenJDK/Phoneme advanced
  • [12:33:06] <btr_26> i am using Angstrom distribution
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  • [12:39:37] <btr_26> One more problem: I have build Angstrom image and can boot from from sd-card but my keyboard/mouse doesn't work. I using active usb hub which has own power supply
  • [12:41:20] <btr_26> i can use serial communication with minicom but cannot configure intial configuration steps after boot directly on my monitor
  • [12:42:04] * av500 is amazed that he was able to buy a micro-usb A cable at local electronics store
  • [12:42:26] * mru doesn't buy usb cables, he gets them free with stuff
  • [12:42:30] <mru> often with free stuff
  • [12:43:35] * av500 has them made in china
  • [12:44:25] <av500> but chinese are late
  • [12:44:28] <s_edrik> Hi guys, does anyone know in what opkg package the rsh command is found? I need it for some test but when searching the angstrom package site I can't find it
  • [12:44:55] <av500> ssh?
  • [12:45:56] <s_edrik> no I got ssh installed but dont get rsh from that :(
  • [12:45:57] <av500> rsh -f -l root
  • [12:46:05] <av500> s_edrik: why not use ssh?
  • [12:47:01] <s_edrik> av500: because I got around 3-4000 tests already written =)
  • [12:47:17] <s_edrik> it's for a project I am trying to port to the beagle
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  • [12:53:59] <safal_soni> can anyone tell me where can i have the ARM processor from?
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  • [12:55:16] <hrw> safal_soni: nearest electronic chips shop?
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  • [12:55:52] <safal_soni> approximate cost?
  • [12:56:08] <azariah2> I've followed http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Dual_partition_card and beaglebord can't find the the kernel image, any advice?
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  • [13:01:26] <av500> safal_soni: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Cat=2556260&k=omap3
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  • [13:06:46] <safal_soni> thanks
  • [13:06:56] <av500> thank google
  • [13:07:20] <safal_soni> ya infact
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  • [14:23:13] <tiny_> While trying to work with (http://www.linux-usb.org/gadget/usb.c), I found that on my system (angstrom git stable) there were no files /dev/gadget/{ep1in, ep1out, ep3} only /dev/gadget/musb_bdrc. Any thoughts? Have I forgot to load a needed module?
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  • [14:24:28] <koen> did you load the gadgetfs module?
  • [14:24:41] <tiny_> Yep
  • [14:24:58] <tiny_> This is the only one loaded
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  • [15:05:24] <gancient> hi all, i wanted to buy a beagle board, but i have a VGA monitor :( any suggestions ?
  • [15:05:37] <av500> buy a DVI
  • [15:05:56] <hrw> or grab lcd/pdp tv set
  • [15:06:34] <_koen_> or go to the beagleboardtoys site
  • [15:07:13] <av500> _koen_: they really sell them?
  • [15:07:15] <gancient> av500: a HDMI to VGA converter would be quite costly right ? because of the inclusion of Digital to Analog converters.
  • [15:07:18] <av500> somebody has one=
  • [15:07:32] <av500> gancient: you can buy a dvi monitor for the same price
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  • [15:10:23] <koen> av500: no idea
  • [15:11:06] <gancient> in my case atleast, investing in beagle board adds up a lot of associated expenses :(
  • [15:11:16] <gancient> there's this Hawkboard , hawkboard.org any one heard of it ?
  • [15:11:22] <av500> gancient: nobody forces you to use a monitor at all
  • [15:12:05] <gancient> how do i interact with the board ?
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  • [15:12:12] <av500> koen, hrw: what was the url of that el cheapo DA converter?
  • [15:12:22] <hrw> no idea
  • [15:12:27] <av500> gancient: serial, usb?
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  • [15:13:14] <av500> gancient: http://www.linusakesson.net/hardware/beagleboard/vga.php
  • [15:13:23] <av500> if you are the do-it-yourself guy
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  • [15:14:50] <gancient> av500: Nice !!
  • [15:17:03] <gancient> av500: i tried a diy projects , a GSM sim-card reader but the author of the article was not responding to queries
  • [15:17:32] <gancient> av500: so wasted a bit of money, skeptical about the independent diy authors
  • [15:17:49] <gancient> av500: unless its community supported :)
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  • [15:19:39] <gancient> beagle board has pins jutting out for RS-232 connections right ?
  • [15:19:56] <gancient> one needs to buy the connector an connect it ?
  • [15:20:13] <hrw> gancient: icd10 is cheap
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  • [15:21:42] <av500> gancient: buy 3 wires
  • [15:21:47] <av500> not that expensive
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  • [15:24:39] <gancient> av500: the usb connection can also be used to run a terminal session ?
  • [15:25:19] <av500> yes
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  • [15:26:55] <gancient> as in the terminal device has to be set as /dev/ttyUSB0
  • [15:26:59] <gancient> right ?
  • [15:27:12] <av500> something like that
  • [15:27:17] <gancient> the path would obviously vary
  • [15:29:42] <av500> google should know
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  • [15:57:23] * gancient thanks all at #beagleboard , his interaction was fruitful
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  • [16:10:59] <dcopeto> Does anyone know how to disable console on beagle's /dev/ttyS2 so that it can be used with a peripheral?
  • [16:11:27] <av500> remove console= from kernel cmd line?
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  • [16:12:19] <dcopeto> taking that argument from kernel command line is enough?
  • [16:12:26] <hrw> or "echo 0 >/proc/sysrq-trigger" + removal of getty in /etc/inittab
  • [16:13:38] <dcopeto> if I take the argument from kernel command line I will still have u-boot console support right?
  • [16:13:48] <av500> yes
  • [16:13:56] <dcopeto> ok thanks
  • [16:13:57] <av500> dcopeto: but BB has more then 1 serial port
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  • [16:14:37] <dcopeto> I want a quick test without having to solder on beagleboard ;)
  • [16:15:25] <prpplague> dcopeto: buy a zippy or zippy2
  • [16:16:12] <dcopeto> by the way another question: the fact that /dev/ttyS2 is the default console output means that it won't work with a serial device hooked up to it?
  • [16:16:34] <av500> why not?
  • [16:16:50] <av500> it will patiently wait for the attached device to type "ls"
  • [16:17:20] <av500> and it will give all console output to said device
  • [16:17:52] <prpplague> dcopeto: you can use the uart3 (ttyS2) for anything you want, just that it is usually used for console
  • [16:17:52] <dcopeto> but for example if I connect a gps that outputs values through serial into and connect to /dev/ttyS2
  • [16:18:34] <prpplague> dcopeto: you could do that, but you'd probably want to disable the uart ouput from x-loader and u-boot
  • [16:18:41] <dcopeto> I mean using it for anything else while still configures for console output
  • [16:18:57] <prpplague> dcopeto: easiest is to just use one of the uarts on the expansion bus
  • [16:18:59] <dcopeto> *configured
  • [16:19:01] <av500> that wont work
  • [16:19:14] <prpplague> dcopeto: right, it is one thing or another, not both
  • [16:19:32] <dcopeto> ok
  • [16:19:35] <prpplague> dcopeto: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Zippy
  • [16:19:40] <dcopeto> that was my doubt thanks
  • [16:19:41] <prpplague> dcopeto: well worth the money
  • [16:21:20] <dcopeto> looks nice :)
  • [16:21:47] <av500> dcopeto: buy 3, get one free!
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  • [16:22:06] <dcopeto> ahahah
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  • [16:27:11] <prpplague> dcopeto: the db9 onboard is configured as DTE so you can plug any standard DCE device such as a GPS receive can be plugged in
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  • [16:32:27] <BB_> is anyone having issues with their network due to mcafee 5957.dat?
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  • [16:42:38] * djlewis_ wont use Mcafee or Norton
  • [16:42:50] <djlewis_> too bloated
  • [16:42:58] * av500 removed norton virus long ago
  • [16:43:01] <djlewis_> gm all
  • [16:43:14] <djlewis_> yep it does act like a virus :)
  • [16:43:54] <av500> my dads pc was infected by it
  • [16:44:03] <av500> it was also sluggish
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  • [16:44:47] <djlewis_> Mcafee does the same to many pc's
  • [16:47:08] <BB_> So what's the alternative to McAfee?
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  • [16:47:43] <djlewis_> BB_: there is no 100 percent solution other than jsut not using the internet
  • [16:47:45] <av500> I install avg free edition on all win pcs
  • [16:47:58] <av500> with only the av component enabled
  • [16:48:45] <djlewis_> Some like Kaspersky but it is rather bothersome with "allow?" popups
  • [16:49:09] <av500> allow what?
  • [16:49:15] <av500> a virus?
  • [16:49:31] <djlewis_> ya need to be rather intuitive to know ;P
  • [16:50:03] <djlewis_> i should state "allow or deny?"
  • [16:50:21] <av500> you mean the firewall?
  • [16:50:43] <djlewis_> I believe so
  • [16:50:45] <BB_> av500 about 2 weeks ago I installed AVG on my computer then I couldn't open my browser, actually I haven't looked into it lately. Has anyone had this issue?
  • [16:50:57] <djlewis_> No
  • [16:50:59] <av500> BB_: #avg maybe? :)
  • [16:51:22] <BB_> what is that mean ?
  • [16:51:23] <gancient> have you'll looked at Avast antivirus + sunbelt kerio free firewall ?
  • [16:51:24] <djlewis_> ?me quit using avf free after the 9.x versions arrived
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  • [16:51:42] <djlewis_> s/?/I
  • [16:51:44] <av500> firewall? what for, windows has one
  • [16:51:51] <av500> and your dsl router is another one
  • [16:51:56] <djlewis_> av500: yep
  • [16:52:19] <av500> all sec stuff on top of pure av is mostly useless
  • [16:52:20] * djlewis_ does not run antivirus at home on windows or linux pc's
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  • [16:52:42] <djlewis_> using two firewals to my internet connection
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  • [17:29:00] <tiny_> Anyone aware of which module(s) creates the files /dev/gadget/{ep1in, ep1out, ep3}? I am trying to work with the sample code http://www.linux-usb.org/gadget/usb.c. However, my /dev/gadget contains only musb_hdrc.
  • [17:29:28] <tiny_> I have loaded the gadgetfs module already and does not seem to be it.
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  • [17:39:12] <koen> on older kernels I got this:
  • [17:39:13] <koen> root@beagleboard:~# ls /dev/gadget/
  • [17:39:13] <koen> ep10in ep11in ep12in ep13 ep15 ep1out ep2out ep3out ep4out ep5out ep6out ep7out ep8out ep9out
  • [17:39:16] <koen> ep10out ep11out ep12out ep14 ep1in ep2in ep3in ep4in ep5in ep6in ep7in ep8in ep9in musb_hdrc
  • [17:40:55] <tiny_> How old?
  • [17:41:17] <tiny_> I have 2.6.29
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  • [19:13:11] <Ikarus> hrm, is it possible to program for the actual IVA2 (which seems to be pretty close to yet another DSP) ?
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  • [19:14:56] <mru> huh?
  • [19:16:15] <Ikarus> ah
  • [19:16:20] <Ikarus> TI docs are misleading
  • [19:16:34] <mru> ti docs are usually quite accurate
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  • [19:17:14] <mru> IVA2 is C64x+ DSP core, L1 & L2 RAM, MMU, EDMA, IDMA, and video accels iirc
  • [19:17:15] <Ikarus> mru: one gives the idea that the DSP and IVA2 are seperate things, but now it looks like the DSP is the IVA2
  • [19:18:34] <Ikarus> mru: yeah, that was what I finally came to the conclusion of aswell
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  • [19:19:54] <_av500_> dsp is part of iva2
  • [19:20:21] <Ikarus> this is going to be fun :P
  • [19:20:30] <mru> now just wait for ivahd...
  • [19:20:43] <BB_> Where in the file hierarchy is a Compiler normally installed?
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  • [19:20:49] <mru> _av500_: guess you've seen the docs on that
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  • [19:21:39] <_av500_> yup
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  • [20:49:15] <djlewis_> with the spirit of Sylvester the cat, sthuffer'n sthuckatash....
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  • [20:54:18] <emeb> bad ol' puddy tat...
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  • [21:17:06] <tomatoes7> whats the current best tutorial to follow to get angstrom on a 2gb flash for a revC b-board?
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  • [21:21:10] <mru> narcissus is probably the easiest
  • [21:23:16] <tomatoes7> mru, can you post a url?
  • [21:23:28] <BB_> how can I configure gcc to be in my path? anyone?
  • [21:23:53] <mru> google down again? http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/
  • [21:24:18] <tomatoes7> mru, yeah google is broken today
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  • [21:24:24] <tomatoes7> thanks
  • [21:39:25] <muriani_> narcissus is the shiznit
  • [21:40:14] <tomatoes7> i still need some instructions on how to put my narcissus downloads onto an SD card
  • [21:40:15] <thurbad> BB_ using angstrom?
  • [21:40:29] <tomatoes7> yes angstom
  • [21:40:32] <BB_> yeah
  • [21:40:59] <thurbad> opkg install gcc-symlinks I think.. not sure of the exact package name
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  • [21:41:15] <djlewis_> BB_: burn it to a cd and lay it on the floor and you can walk on it ;)
  • [21:42:12] <djlewis_> BB_: when i installed task-native-sdk it was all set up.
  • [21:42:19] <BB_> yeah I though about it... but then they don't pay me to do that...
  • [21:42:31] <djlewis_> bummer
  • [21:42:38] <thurbad> koen was saying there was a package named task-native-sdk that does all that stuff for you
  • [21:43:00] <aholler> BB_: let them by you a book
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  • [21:44:49] <BB_> umm, i downloaded a fortran compiler, untar it, but now i can't configure this puppy...
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  • [21:55:44] <djlewis_> BB_: I see a gfortran at angstrom.org. duno if it works on BB .
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  • [21:57:55] <BB_> i got mine fromhere http://gcc-uk.internet.bs/releases/
  • [21:59:42] <BB_> I have to run some SPECFP on the BB so I need a fortran compatible to the current gcc that I have installed.
  • [22:08:32] <nullpuppy> anyone happen to know if there is any sample code out on the internets that use interrupts on UART2? working on something kernel level...
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  • [22:12:55] <emeb> nullpuppy: are you saying that the present linux-omap UART kernel driver doesn't use interrupts?
  • [22:14:30] <nullpuppy> emeb: no, i'm saying i've been unable to locate the interrupt i need to handle for UART2
  • [22:15:00] <nullpuppy> i haven't done much stuff in kernel.. i barely know what i'm doing right now ... ;)
  • [22:16:15] <emeb> nullpuppy: I guess what I'm asking is why you believe you need to write a new driver when there's already one in the kernel that works.
  • [22:17:13] <nullpuppy> emeb: class project. building something to interract with custom hardware.
  • [22:17:54] <nullpuppy> (also, yes, its very possible there is a much easier way to do this).
  • [22:18:02] <nullpuppy> (i just haven't figure that out yet...)
  • [22:18:16] <Ceriand|work> nullpuppy: what are you trying to do?
  • [22:18:18] <emeb> nullpuppy: I understand, but what's so special about that hardware that you can't use existing char drivers?
  • [22:19:07] <nullpuppy> Ceriand|work: building a input driver to report evdev events. need to read in from uart though.
  • [22:19:17] <nullpuppy> emeb: nothing really..
  • [22:19:37] <nullpuppy> basically, i was hoping to just read in data, parse and report input events.
  • [22:19:45] <emeb> nullpuppy: so why not just use the existing infrastructure and do your coding in user-space.
  • [22:20:00] <emeb> The linux TTY interface is well documented.
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  • [22:20:12] <nullpuppy> emeb: because i haven't had much luck figuring how to actually do that.
  • [22:20:20] <nullpuppy> *nods*
  • [22:20:22] <nullpuppy> hmm
  • [22:22:04] <emeb> nullpuppy: have you looked in <kernel top dir>/Documentation/serial ?
  • [22:22:09] <nullpuppy> emeb: if i was to do this in userspace, wouldn't i need to do something like build somethign for xorg directly though? or am i missing something?
  • [22:22:12] <nullpuppy> emeb: not yet.
  • [22:22:31] <emeb> nullpuppy: I don't see where xorg comes into the picture at all.
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  • [22:23:16] <nullpuppy> emeb: ok. then i don't know what i should be doing exactly then... i've only recently started looking at doing anythign like this...
  • [22:23:46] <emeb> nullpuppy: There's a lot to learn, but don't make things more complex than they have to be. :)
  • [22:23:59] <nullpuppy> *nods*
  • [22:24:09] <nullpuppy> emeb: it'd help if i could find something to point me in the rihgt direction :)
  • [22:25:19] <emeb> nullpuppy: Read through the docs in the dir I pointed to above, then google for addition info & code examples on using *nix TTY devices.
  • [22:25:52] <emeb> Really all you need to do is open the device, setup the port parameters and start reading data.
  • [22:26:01] <emeb> What you do with it after that is your business.
  • [22:26:11] <nullpuppy> ok.
  • [22:27:04] <emeb> Things might get tricky if you have to kick getty off the UART port - there was some discussion on this chl earlier today & yesterday about how to do that.
  • [22:27:29] <emeb> Or you could be trying to use one of the other ports, but you'd need external HW for that.
  • [22:28:08] <nullpuppy> a zigbee is going to be connected to it, if that helps..
  • [22:28:55] <emeb> Probably doesn't make any difference - that's just a transport layer. As long as you get the serial rates & handshaking set up right you should be fine.
  • [22:29:02] <nullpuppy> ok
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  • [22:32:02] <andruk> im trying to pinmux gpios in the kernel, but none of my gpios are showing up in /sys/class/gpio. is this where they are supposed to show up?
  • [22:34:50] <emeb> andruk: does your kernel have CONFIG_GPIO_SYSFS=y ?
  • [22:47:46] <andruk> emeb: i did enable something like that in make menuconfig...
  • [22:47:55] <andruk> emeb: currently grepping for that though
  • [22:51:01] <andruk> emeb: its "not set" in omap3_beagle_defconfig...
  • [22:51:27] <emeb> andruk: ok - you'll need that, otherwise the /sys/class/gpio is useless
  • [22:52:01] <andruk> emeb: do i need that in the beagle defconfig or just in the .config?
  • [22:52:25] <emeb> andruk: depends on what cmds you use to build your kernel.
  • [22:52:56] <andruk> emeb: "make -j4 uImage CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-"
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  • [22:53:35] <emeb> andruk: that cmd uses what's in .config, so just re-run make menuconfig prior & set GPIO SYSFS
  • [22:54:04] <andruk> emeb: where's GPIO_SYSFS in the menu hierarchy?
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  • [22:54:42] <emeb> andruk: I think it's under drivers/char but don't quote me. I always just hunt
  • [22:56:06] <andruk> emeb: do i need GPIO switch support?
  • [22:56:26] <emeb> andruk: I don't think so. That's a different set of stuff.
  • [22:57:28] <andruk> emeb: "OMAP multiplexing support" is enabled...is that it?
  • [22:58:10] <emeb> andruk: no
  • [22:58:40] <andruk> emeb: "/sys/class/gpio/... (sysfs interface)" that looks like it
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  • [22:59:26] <emeb> andruk: yep.
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  • [23:00:44] <andruk> emeb: ...its enabled...
  • [23:01:42] <emeb> andruk: err - did you just enable it, or was it already enabled? And if so, why didn't it show up in the .config?
  • [23:02:27] <emeb> andruk: ah - you were reporting what was in the omap3_beagle_defconfig, not your .config
  • [23:02:58] <andruk> emeb: it was enabled, and grep finally returned CONFIG_GPIO_SYSFS=y in .compile... lemme try the new kernel in my board, it might be a pebkac...
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  • [23:03:42] <emeb> andruk: have you seen this: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/02/blinking_leds_with_the_beagle_board.html
  • [23:04:01] <emeb> has a nice little script to toggle a GPIO.
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  • [23:05:32] <andruk> emeb: yeah, ive seen that but whenever i try to put anything into /sys/class/gpio/export i get a permission denied error - even as root
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  • [23:06:47] <emeb> andruk: odd.
  • [23:07:05] <andruk> emeb: quite
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  • [23:15:31] <andruk> emeb: "-bash: export: Permission denied" with and without sudo
  • [23:16:15] <andruk> ls /sys/class/gpio: export gpiochip128 gpiochip192 gpiochip64 unexport gpiochip0 gpiochip160 gpiochip32 gpiochip96
  • [23:16:58] <andruk> emeb: would it be better to setup gpios in uboot and leave the spi setup in the kernel?
  • [23:17:38] <emeb> andruk: the GPIO SYSFS has nothing to do with the pinmux, which is what uboot does.
  • [23:17:55] <andruk> http://pastebin.com/urVBHc6K http://pastebin.com/rgA1v5GZ http://pastebin.com/YjYE5epw are the sources
  • [23:18:08] <emeb> GPIO SYSFS is for setting high/low, in/out state of the individual GPIO bits.
  • [23:18:25] <emeb> That's independent of the pinmux settings.
  • [23:18:28] <andruk> emeb: right, but i dont even know if the gpios are getting setup correctly
  • [23:21:22] <emeb> andruk: But no matter where the pinmux is setup you should have write access to the GPIO SYSFS control files.
  • [23:22:35] <andruk> emeb: here's the relevant kernel bootlog: http://pastebin.com/67sZ9xMh im setting up mcspi3&4 (thanks for your help with that), uart2 (which i have tested with an oscope and is working), and gpios. the "Using GPIOs" line is from my config function, and im trying to use GPIOs 131-135 and 162
  • [23:24:35] <emeb> andruk: looks OK to me. your code is obviously getting called.
  • [23:25:27] <andruk> emeb: yep, :-)
  • [23:26:26] <emeb> andruk: and you must have CONFIG_OMAP_MUX or the spi wouldn't work, so the mux code is actually doing something.
  • [23:26:40] <andruk> emeb: yep :-)
  • [23:29:02] <emeb> andruk: well - the access-denied suggests something wrong with the kernel configuration for GPIO SYSFS.
  • [23:31:51] <emeb> andruk: here's all the GPIO-related entries from my (working) .config: http://pastebin.com/2TZcSgWT
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  • [23:37:06] <andruk> emeb: the relevant lines in my .config match those exactly...
  • [23:38:21] <andruk> emeb: so, to access gpio 162 i write 162 to /sys/class/gpio/export and a folder called /sys/class/gpio162 appears, right?
  • [23:38:57] <emeb> andruk: I believe that is correct.
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  • [23:47:00] <andruk> can you post your mux.h, mux.c, and board-omap3beagle.c files?
  • [23:47:14] <andruk> emeb: or are mine looking fine?
  • [23:48:08] <emeb> andruk: just a sec...
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  • [23:52:53] <emeb> andruk: http://pastebin.com/eDm3j3Rr http://pastebin.com/G5Pearbt http://pastebin.com/dWNvLrLV
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