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  • [03:06:17] <DanaG> my beagleboard USB acts really strangely when I have the usb-hub + asix ethernet thing plugged into it during boot.
  • [03:06:29] <DanaG> It gives no errors in dmesg, yet gives zero incoming packets.
  • [03:06:39] <DanaG> I can even unload and reload asix, and nothing changes.
  • [03:07:10] <DanaG> If I do tshark on the usbmon1 interface, all I get is URB_INTERRUPT.... no URB_DATA or URB_CONTROL.
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  • [03:21:52] <DanaG1> weird... it seems setting wol g is what kills asix.
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  • [04:12:28] <Barts_> DanaG: i had a similar issue with my usb-ethernet adapter. i would only plug it into my hub after the GUI comes on. but after the oct 2009 release of angstrom, it's been fine
  • [04:12:43] <DanaG> Hmm, mine seems even weirder than that....
  • [04:12:57] <DanaG> one time when I booted with initramfs, it worked long enough to get an IP... and then stopped working.
  • [04:13:12] <DanaG> I'm thinking it may be the attempt to enable WOL that's doing it.
  • [04:13:16] <DanaG> wake-on-lan, that is.
  • [04:14:08] <DanaG> [ 3271.274139] kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-ti-omap-2.6.33/drivers/video/omap2/dss/core.c:323!
  • [04:14:08] <DanaG> [ 3271.283386] Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000
  • [04:14:16] <DanaG> Segmentation fault
  • [04:14:20] <DanaG> Nice... kernel segfaulted.
  • [04:15:52] <DanaG> oh, and these messages have unnecessarily high priority: [ 20.480560] Not OMAP3 EVM! [ 20.493469] Power Management for TI OMAP3.
  • [04:16:05] <DanaG> MMmyeah, looks like wol really does break asix.
  • [04:16:54] <DanaG> yup, removing "ethtool -s eth0 wol g" from my rc.local unbroke it.
  • [04:18:09] * DanaG wishes there were a board that had a superset of "openrd-base" and "openrd-client". Base doesn't have many USB ports, but client doesn't have PCIe slot.
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  • [04:35:03] <thurbad> meh my app prototype is due monday and they sent a note tonight asking if I could add encryption to the videos :/
  • [04:37:04] <thurbad> yeah.. like that's not totally out of the scope of the project or last minute
  • [04:39:38] <NotZed> i know what i'd say :)
  • [04:41:01] <thurbad> heh, to put this into context they want me to put the videos in a location where users can easily get to and swap out the videos as part of the requirements
  • [04:41:25] <thurbad> and now they're worried about content security
  • [04:43:59] <NotZed> joy
  • [04:46:38] <lifeeth> :D
  • [04:46:49] <thurbad> guess I could muck with the decoder at some point to do streaming decryption, but not tomorrow
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  • [04:49:16] <ALe}{> hi
  • [04:49:34] <thurbad> they also want to encrypt the main app.. uh no?
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  • [04:51:02] <thurbad> was he expecting an ack signal?
  • [04:51:19] <thurbad> sorry, no flow control here
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  • [05:04:25] <venky> Hi, Does Uboot for Beagle board support interrupts? I want to use a Timer interrupt...
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  • [05:05:48] <venky> Did anyone use interrupts on uboot?
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  • [09:37:50] <kadirbasol> yo
  • [09:38:05] <JDuke128> hi
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  • [10:48:26] <aholler> anyone knows why I get this warning:
  • [10:48:28] <aholler> beagle ~ # g++ -march=armv7-a -mcpu=cortex-a8 -o t t.c
  • [10:48:28] <aholler> t.c:1: warning: switch -mcpu=cortex-a8 conflicts with -march= switch
  • [10:49:10] <aholler> (gcc 4.4.3)
  • [10:50:46] <Xerion> I think it should be armv7a not armv7-a
  • [10:51:08] <aholler> no, armv7a is invalid
  • [10:52:24] <aholler> maybe i should use only -mcpu, even the manual writes under -march "used in conjunction with or instead of the -mcpu"
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  • [10:53:11] <thurbad> is that g++ a symlink to the normal cross compiler?
  • [10:53:45] <ShadowJK> does -march=cortex-a8 work?
  • [10:53:46] <aholler> no, native (gentoo)
  • [10:54:34] <aholler> gcc throws the same warning
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  • [11:00:13] <mru> -mcpu implies -march
  • [11:00:27] <mru> using both is pointless
  • [11:01:04] <aholler> maybe, but then the manual is wrong
  • [11:01:15] <mru> not really
  • [11:01:21] <mru> just vague
  • [11:02:28] <aholler> ok, thanks. I assume I might get better results using -mcpu=cortex-a8 instead of -march=armv7-a.
  • [11:02:54] <mru> in theory you might
  • [11:03:11] <mru> -mcpu=cortex-a8 is equivalent to -march=armv7-a -mtune=cortex-a8
  • [11:03:36] <aholler> ah, ok. that would have been my next question. ;)
  • [11:07:12] <aholler> so I assume with -mcpu=cortex-a8 -mfpu=neon -mfloat-abi=softfp -ftree-vectorize I have some good cflags.
  • [11:07:24] <mru> wrong
  • [11:07:33] <mru> use -fno-tree-vectorize
  • [11:07:43] <mru> the vectoriser is buggy and produces slower code than without
  • [11:07:53] <mru> or plain wrong code
  • [11:08:17] <aholler> oh, thanks. is this true for 4.5 too?
  • [11:08:22] <mru> don't know
  • [11:08:41] <mru> I'll try to do an evaluation of that soon
  • [11:08:55] <mru> but I doubt they've suddenly found the holy grail
  • [11:09:11] <JDuke128> hi , i ve successfully installed angstrom on my beagleboard by using "bitbake console-image" , but when i boot my beagleboard with Angstrom kernel that i ve used from "bitbake console-image" rootfs opens and asking me root login but no keyboard is working and also my ethernet not working ? i just use beagleboard from serial connection , i cant use from usb keyboard from outside.But i can use my keyboard on demo beagleboard angstrom?
  • [11:09:13] <aholler> so I'm better let it off, thanks a lot.
  • [11:09:29] <mru> be warned, -O3 enables -ftree-vectorize
  • [11:09:46] <mru> so if you use -O3 you should turn it off explicitly
  • [11:10:05] <aholler> hmm, currently I'm using Os, hope this has no bugs ;)
  • [11:10:14] <mru> that has _other_ bugs
  • [11:11:22] <JDuke128> i need to install extra packages to use ethernet and usb keyboard ?
  • [11:11:29] <aholler> ok, than i'm using -O2. ;)
  • [11:11:35] <JDuke128> bitbake console-image , doesnt include all ?
  • [11:12:10] <mru> aholler: that has bugs too
  • [11:12:14] <mru> there are bugs everywhere
  • [11:12:21] <thurbad> did you try the console image from narcissus yet?
  • [11:12:36] <mru> you have to find out for yourself which flags work for you
  • [11:12:48] <mru> or how to work around whatever bugs might bite you
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  • [11:13:16] <aholler> mru: ok, if -Os hasn't more bugs than -O2 I will use -Os and switch the flags if I encounter problems
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  • [11:13:59] <JDuke128> thurbad , i tried narcissus but it made some problems on my disk , i ve 16GB disk it converts it to 2GB
  • [11:14:24] <XorA|gone> JDuke128: you never heard of parted?
  • [11:14:55] <thurbad> use the rootfs tar.gz, not the SD images
  • [11:15:02] <XorA|gone> anyway usb keyboard works on console image, so youll have to be more detailed with bug reports
  • [11:15:43] <JDuke128> ok
  • [11:15:46] <JDuke128> i try again now
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  • [11:29:07] <JDuke128> thurbad , i ve used narcissus , i m having same problem now
  • [11:29:19] <JDuke128> and i got some errors on boot
  • [11:30:01] <thurbad> which proeblem, the no keyboard problem, or something else?
  • [11:30:17] <JDuke128> Buffer I/O Error on device mtdblock0 , logical block 1
  • [11:30:19] <JDuke128> Buffer I/O Error on device mtdblock0 , logical block 2
  • [11:30:22] <JDuke128> and so on...
  • [11:30:38] <thurbad> pastebin the boot errors
  • [11:30:38] <JDuke128> and some sectors
  • [11:30:42] <JDuke128> ok
  • [11:30:47] <XorA|gone> they arent error
  • [11:31:03] <XorA|gone> just the kernels way of telling you your flash is blank
  • [11:31:35] <JDuke128> FAT : IO charset iso8859-1 not found
  • [11:33:07] <JDuke128> i got visual login screen that has virtual keyboard
  • [11:33:23] <JDuke128> but although usb hub powered keyboard is still not working ... :(
  • [11:33:26] <JDuke128> even mouse!
  • [11:33:35] <XorA|gone> EHCI or OTG?
  • [11:34:21] <aholler> JDuke128: the message with FAT is because your kernel is missing iso8859-1
  • [11:34:38] <JDuke128> EHCI
  • [11:35:04] <JDuke128> i connect usb hub on EHCI
  • [11:35:27] <XorA|gone> odd
  • [11:35:37] <XorA|gone> I would say that just works, but my EHCI port burnt out
  • [11:37:30] <JDuke128> my u-boot environment maybe wrong ?
  • [11:37:42] <JDuke128> u-boot settings can be wrong ?
  • [11:37:54] <JDuke128> i ve edited u-boot bootargs
  • [11:37:59] <XorA|gone> I dont think there is any option in u-boot that affects usb
  • [11:38:01] <JDuke128> it effects keyboard ?
  • [11:38:37] <JDuke128> can i bind keyboard to usb otg ?
  • [11:38:45] <XorA|gone> yes if you have a host cable
  • [11:38:57] <XorA|gone> just modprobe g-ether and plug in the hub and it should work
  • [11:39:20] <thurbad> there is if you're using a C4 revision beagleboard, but he's not
  • [11:39:21] <JDuke128> i got connected beagle to serial
  • [11:39:43] <JDuke128> hmm problem may occur cos i connect beagle to serial ?
  • [11:40:02] <XorA|gone> we all have serial port connected :-)
  • [11:40:02] <JDuke128> i do serial boot
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  • [11:42:48] <JDuke128> hmm
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  • [11:44:34] <jesusmad3> hi
  • [11:44:37] <jesusmad3> How can I change the keboard language in Angstrom?
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  • [11:50:40] <JDuke128> is there any way to check beagleboard usb ehci is broken or not ?
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  • [11:59:04] <jesusmad3> setxkbmap ok ty
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  • [12:33:50] <JDuke128> guys i ve found the problem
  • [12:34:26] <JDuke128> thurbad , i did "bitbake omap3-u-boot" but u-boot on omap3 doesnt work keyboard
  • [12:34:37] <JDuke128> i put back original u-boot now it worked
  • [12:38:33] <thurbad> did you need anything special in u-boot?
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  • [12:41:15] <jesusmad3> hey how do you download the linux headers in angstrom?
  • [12:41:21] <jesusmad3> opkg install ...
  • [12:41:47] <koen> JDuke128: 'bitbake u-boot' would be the right recipe, but 'bitbake console-image' will also build it for you
  • [12:43:03] <JDuke128> koen , i tried u-boot too , it doesnt work on my beagleboard C2
  • [12:43:07] <JDuke128> it makes some problems
  • [12:43:14] <JDuke128> i put demo u-boot back
  • [12:45:24] <JDuke128> well bitbake u-boot works but it only works without usb !
  • [12:46:22] <JDuke128> koen , what about jamvm + fbtoolkit ? did you try it on beagleboard ? fbtoolkit really good for java apps
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  • [12:48:05] <JDuke128> koen , i think u-boot on bitbake must be fixed because its not supporting usb...
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  • [12:53:03] <thurbad> which version of oe did you you use?
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  • [12:59:06] <JDuke128> i got latest git of OE
  • [12:59:13] <JDuke128> ~2 days
  • [12:59:36] <thurbad> is it the script based version?
  • [13:00:13] <thurbad> or the one from the tutorial?
  • [13:01:47] <JDuke128> i just do "bitbake omap3-u-boot"
  • [13:02:14] <JDuke128> sry
  • [13:02:18] <JDuke128> u-boot-omap3
  • [13:02:19] <thurbad> just because you grabbed it recently doesn't mean it's a current repository
  • [13:02:45] <JDuke128> i just installed all tools 2 days ago
  • [13:02:48] <JDuke128> so its new
  • [13:03:58] <aholler> git describe should help
  • [13:04:26] <JDuke128> ok
  • [13:04:28] <JDuke128> wait
  • [13:04:50] <aholler> (not me, i don't me know anything about oe) ;)
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  • [13:05:36] <JDuke128> on oe => mv-packages-to-recipes-post-602-g3593ff2
  • [13:06:43] <thurbad> did you follow these instructions? http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
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  • [13:21:20] <JDuke128> thurbad , yea i did all now my OS working fine
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  • [15:03:47] <safal_soni> innosam: how's ur preparation going on?
  • [15:04:08] <innosam> whois innosam
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  • [17:33:06] <jesusmad3> I cant find linux headers in OPKG... do they have special name?
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  • [18:02:39] <likewise> gm
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  • [18:17:37] <jesusmad3> I cant find linux headers in OPKG... do they have special name?
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  • [18:22:26] <jesusmad3> Where can I find the "cmake" utility?
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  • [18:47:46] <jesusmad3> I want a full development enviroment for Angstrong and the BB... any hints?
  • [18:50:51] <likewise> it's rather quiet here, try again during the week if you don't get an answer todat
  • [18:50:58] <likewise> today
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  • [18:54:39] <jesusmad3> oo ok ty
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  • [19:03:01] <neurre> jesusmad3, im building my stuff directly on the bb
  • [19:03:11] <neurre> opkg install this and that
  • [19:03:58] <jesusmad3> yes that what i wanted
  • [19:04:09] <jesusmad3> but I need the CMAKE utility
  • [19:04:18] <jesusmad3> opkg doesnt have it
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  • [19:04:38] <jesusmad3> so I have to build it some way.. with open embedded perhaps?
  • [19:05:03] <neurre> why not just ./configure and make?
  • [19:05:08] <neurre> opkg install gcc make etc..
  • [19:05:30] <jesusmad3> hmmm u mean
  • [19:05:35] <jesusmad3> oooh of course
  • [19:05:40] <neurre> you probably also want task-native-sdk
  • [19:05:47] <jesusmad3> I can just dowload the cmake sources
  • [19:05:57] <neurre> i dont know
  • [19:05:59] <neurre> i would try that
  • [19:06:03] <jesusmad3> and compile
  • [19:06:06] <neurre> yes :)
  • [19:06:16] <jesusmad3> hmmm what is task native sdk?
  • [19:06:30] <neurre> something i was told i need, and it turned out to be true
  • [19:06:35] <neurre> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?section=devel
  • [19:06:38] <neurre> search for native
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  • [19:07:06] <jesusmad3> but i think its easier if u use "Bitbake cmake" right? that tools creates ipx packages right?
  • [19:17:14] <thurbad> bitbake cmake will fail
  • [19:17:49] <thurbad> unless you want to tweek it to work
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  • [19:22:16] <flaco> hi all... anyone has been working with vala and gstreamer with angstrom??
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  • [20:13:13] <andruk> i seed my bb with ubuntu-desktop, but it doesn't come up on my dvi port...any ideas as to what im doing wrong?
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  • [20:15:08] <rcn-ee> andruk, check your boot.scr options, do you have console=tty0 & omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60
  • [20:16:50] <andruk> rcn-ee: yep
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  • [20:17:36] <rcn-ee> humm... any useful errors in dmesg? dmesg | grep omap
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  • [20:30:10] <andruk> "Unable to get DVI reset GPIO" on bootup
  • [20:31:40] <rcn-ee> that's different.. can you power down both the beagle and dvi display?
  • [20:37:08] <andruk> "Not OMAP3 EVM!" ...you mean "sudo shutdown -h now"?
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  • [20:40:50] <DanaG> Oh yeah, that "Not OMAP3 EVM" message has a ludicrously high priority level.
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  • [20:41:02] <DanaG> It gets printed even when booting with "Quiet".
  • [20:41:14] <DanaG> Same for "Power Management for TI OMAP".
  • [20:41:19] <DanaG> ... power management? What about it?
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  • [20:51:43] <andruk> rcn-ee: yeah, the bb and display are both shutdown/off
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  • [20:56:08] <andruk> "fbcvt: 1280x720@60: CVT Name - .921M9-R"
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  • [22:00:30] <andruk> rcn-ee: http://pastebin.com/F0HAezgM does that look good for enabling mcspi4 and a few gpios?
  • [22:01:51] <Nevo> Would the beagleboard be a suitable platform for developing an application without an OS? I just want an embedded widget like I used to make with PIC processors, only on a 32 bit platform.
  • [22:04:49] <emeb> Nevo: Yes - but it takes a lot of effort to program the OMAP3530 at the bare-metal level.
  • [22:05:12] <Nevo> Effort in what sense? As in writing the code, or in getting the code into the device?
  • [22:05:19] <emeb> See this site for an example: http://a-hackers-craic.blogspot.com/
  • [22:05:59] <Nevo> Thank you for the reference. I'll definitely look at that. I appreciate it.
  • [22:06:02] <emeb> ie - there are a lot of things you need to set up (peripherals, memory controllers, etc) to get even basic functionality.
  • [22:06:49] <emeb> If that looks like a lot to bite off at once and you're already familiar with PIC you might consider PIC32.
  • [22:07:35] <Nevo> Point taken. I don't mind twiddling bits, and I actually enjoy reading all of the minutae in a 700+ page datasheet. (That, and I'm naive enough to not know what I'm getting into.)
  • [22:07:56] <Nevo> I need external memory, and PIC32 doesn't have a built in external memory bus interface.
  • [22:09:26] <emeb> Ah - then there are a lot of ARM7 and ARM7 SBCs with external memory. They might be easier to work with.
  • [22:09:53] <likewise> Nevo: OMAP3 is a top-of-the-line SoC processor, in many ways much more complex than PIC32. I'ld suggest using say an Atmel 9263, or even STM32
  • [22:10:22] <emeb> s/ARM7/ARM9/ :)
  • [22:12:01] <Nevo> Hm. I wasn't aware that the OMAP is significantly more complex than the ARM7/9 series. Maybe I'll look at something like the Embest DevKit8000.
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  • [22:12:18] <Nevo> No, wait, that's an OMAP as well.
  • [22:13:04] <Nevo> If anyone can recommend an ARM7/9 development board with a few megabytes of RAM, I'd be interested in your thoughts. (Built in audio ports would be nice but not necessary.)
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  • [22:14:04] <emeb> Maybe try the Tin Can Tools Hammer board (Samsung SC2410)
  • [22:14:25] <emeb> Or the FriendlyARM mini2440 (Samsung SC2440)
  • [22:14:27] <mru> I've heard mostly good things about atmel AT91 series
  • [22:15:52] <emeb> Yep - Atmel ARM SoCs are pretty decent. I've used the AT91SAM7 parts and they're easy to do bare-metal.
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  • [22:16:38] <emeb> Haven't messed with external memory tho...
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  • [22:25:05] <Nevo> Hm; the mini2440 does indeed look promising.
  • [22:25:11] <Nevo> Thanks, everyone!
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  • [23:05:57] <DanaG> Nevo: beagleboard is cheap
  • [23:06:00] <DanaG> oh
  • [23:06:03] <DanaG> I see... non-omap?
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  • [23:06:21] <DanaG> sorry, was reading backlog.
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  • [23:06:44] <DanaG> ... and reading it backwards, at that.
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  • [23:09:23] <DanaG> ah yeah, atmel looks cool.
  • [23:09:35] <DanaG> Too bad the eval boards are so much more expensive than the beagle. =??
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